Are people actually exited for this? The first one was utter

>>388608746
Maybe, but when I played it, I, dare I say it, had fun

>>388608746
people like the first one now because the expansions fixed mostly everything that was bad at the start gamewise and they say destiny 2 will be like that but better

but people from open beta say that the game is still sorta the same and kinda bland like you kinda mentioned.

>will that stop people from buying it?
no. because some people just like the game like call of duty for whatever reason.

if it has any content in it at the start, then i wouldnt mind giving it a go

i can tell who pre-ordered the collector's edition.
all your points can be disputed, but i don't give enough of a shit to care and to defend something i had fun with to an internet troll. the open beta is free, try it at least.

>>388608746
most of your points ignore that its also an rpg/pseudo mmorpg.

i'm not saying it's a good game but at least be fair. how the fuck do you want to implement modern mmorpg elements if enemies aren't sponges and farming isn't a thing.

what annoys me actually is that the rpg elements are really soft and bland. there is barely any choice or different playstyles.

outside of that, gameplaywise it's quite satisfying.

>>388609147
Watched streamcucks play it yesterday

Everything was a bullet sponge

on top of slow, sub-par PvP

>>388609221
do you want all enemies to die in 1 shot or something?

>>388609113
The expansions didn't fix anything though. It was the exact same shit as before.

>>388609264
it sure did for most people.

But dude, DLC will save this!!! This game is fucking doomed. Screenshot this.

>>388609262
Clearly not, but every enemy in destiny stands still and doesn't even try to dodge your shots. It also takes 20-30 bullets to kill even the weakest enemies.

>>388608746
I liked the first one and I'm buying the second one. Stay mad.

>>388609327
Still no story, still bullet sponge bosses, still bland as fuck worlds to explore with MMO tier side quests.
What single thing was fixed? They changed the ghosts voice for one that sounded even worse?

>bland

meaningless

>0 story
I wish Destiny 2 was doing this again

>>388609369
>20-30 bullets
why are you lying? the game is awful right now but there is no need to make up shit.

>>388609369
low effort false flag

>>388609369
>>388609394

>lying THIS hard to demonize a game
Did you get fired from Bungie?

>>388609369
how fucking bad are you? the only enemies that take more than 1 shot to the head are enemies that have shields, yellow healthbars or bosses

>>388609394
> still bullet sponge bosses
how would you rather have the bosses? instakill headshots? the genre itself is flawed - bullet sponge bosses are necessary to enforce the underlying rpg elements.

>>388609480
Borderlands 2 does bullet sponges 10x better.

>>388609513
i have never played borderlands, so be specific.

>>388609480
Maybe speed up the combat, and actually make bosses do damage?

You can stand 5 feet from him and he literally stares at you because this game is for normies.

>see thread with people hyping game and talking
>see this thread with 1 dude freaking out in it and trying to combat everyone in it.

WHO DO I TRUST! IS IT SHIT OR NOT!!

>>388609543
wait - how does that fix bullet sponges? why are you talking about a different topic now?

>>388609543
name 1 boss that does this

>>388609535
Elemental weapons have a greater impact depending on the boss, and the playable characters all have skills that help a lot more when compared to Destiny.

I liked the multiplayer because it reminded me of playing Halo. Something I haven't done in a very very long time.

>>388609607
wow you can't read

bravo /v/

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>>388609543
stop lying about games you don't like

>>388609653
you cant phrase a single coherent thought.
how does your point fix the fact that enemies are bullet sponges?

>>388608746
It's going to be another game that mostly gets by with the "it's fun with friends" clause.

I had to watch one friend get his pal into Warframe. I hate the guy but I wouldn't wish that upon him.

>>388609591
If you didn't play the beta, just watch people play it, either stream or record footage. Stuff might change before release, but everything you'd see is perfectly indicative of what to expect.

Personally, I liked it. I think Bungie has a stronger idea with what to do story-wise, how the gear works, and what type of content they want to offer in regards to PvP. It feels less like they're trying to do "Bungie's Warcraft" and more like a Halo game with some Diablo loot.

>>388609591
console version is out in like a week. judge for yourself
if you haven't been keeping up with info releases, it's shaping up to be Destiny 1.2: PvP edition for some people

>>388609773
Well I just played the raid with friends and it was indeed quite fun. Didn't enjoy the multiplayer though, really don't see myself caring for that. Is this game like HITMAN in that the devs intermediately include new raids and the like?

>>388609915
Man, when I played Vault of Glass/Hard was the only version of the raid out.

I dropped Destiny before House of Wolves even came out. Far as I know that still only had something like 3-4 raids.

Otherwise you just have the Strikes, and they add more of those I guess. Usually with the expansion packs/DLC.

>>388609221
now that it has a PC port, the accuracy is going to go up because shooters are meant for K+M not bab controllers. obviously it's going to be a bullet sponge, the right guns + skill will get you further.

>wanna see how the game is received after the abysmal first one
>go to destiny general to see what they have on the game like leaks or something
>biggest mistake of my life
Its legit one console tard baiting PC people with the same posts and loses every argument he gets in
Why are console kiddies so insecure

>>388610045
I dont much care about the story either so it's really up to the strikes/raids to keep me interested. Got the game for free so I can't complain, but even then I gotta admit, can't see the appeal of the game. If you like the multiplayer aspect then I guess it makes sense.

>>388609591
You should never trust hype.

I liked D1 after the Taken king came out had more fun that I'd like to admit.

Try out the open beta and see if you like it, if not then go ahead and talk shit.

I'm honestly excited since it might fix Destinies issue with the painful lack of content.

I hated this beta when I first started but now that I know what the fuck I'm doing it's pretty fun.

>>388609543
Stop lying.

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>>388608746
holy shit shut the fuck up. the "le i hate people enjoying things" meme

me and friends are gonna get a copy for ps4 and pc because we enjoy having fun

>>388609145
it had ONE endgame mission

/v/ said pubg was shit
/v/ is saying destiny 2 is fun

i don't know what to believe

Never played Destiny before but the beta runs godly on my computer. I got 100 euro or so from wow tokens so I might buy it. The only disappointment is how limited character customization and the skill system is. In the end it feels like everyone is going to look and play the same.

>>388611393
So its a social gathering more than a decent game... still sounds like a waste of money

>>388612587
Presumably there's more variety when it's the full game. This is a very limited beta.

>>388612587
everyone is going to use the exact same gear too

>>388609113
It really didn't, also they dropped destiny 2 and raised the light level for raids when the last expansion hasn't been out for a year.

>>388608746
Why do people have expensive clothes, cars, phones, jewelry etc? Marketing. It's that simple. Once you've bought it, it's hard to stop playing it even if you don't enjoy it. Welcome to humanity - it fucking sucks.

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>tfw don't have group of friends to enjoy social gathering games with

>>388612587
everyone probably wont look the same since they're bringing the infusion system from D1. but i bet everyone will play the same once the pvp meta sets in

>>388613865
wow that must be awful

>>388614123
It is because that's all these new multiplayer games are designed to be now.

>>388613865

I feel like this most peoples' problem with games like these - to maximize your enjoyment of them you need to actually interact with other human beings.

>>388614359
M-muh social anxiety

>>388614359
>to maximize your enjoyment of them you need to actually interact with other human beings.

thats horeshit and oyu know it, its just the same maps over and over against hoards of boring braindead bad guys, if a game isn't good enough to stand on its own to legs and needs friends to make it fun, its not good at all, any game is good with friends. how the fuck are casuals so into hoard mode games where you just jump around holding down the right trigger? is it shills? no one talked about destiny on this board within 2 months of its release and it was basically DOA, the general was fucking dead, suddenly the sequel is coming out and people are just jumping out of the wood works to defend a game /v/ should know better than to play.

>>388609462
do you work for bungi?

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>>388609369

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I have millions of wow gold, shits freeeeeeeeeeee

>>388608746
It's just a free demo, man

>>388608746
soooo when does the open beta start?

>>388608746
>look at me guys i'm hating on a game
>d-do I fit in now?

>>388615225
Soon™

Activision has to make the preordercucks feel special by offering them 24 hrs early access.

I will play it and you cant do anything about it.

>>388615439
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

real talk, want an honest opinion

Played the first on release, didn't expect an mmo so was incredibly disappointing. Went in expecting next gen Halo and got a pretty bland shooter with no story and an hour in I'd repeated the same quest a few times. Beat the main campaign solo in a day or so and genuinely felt scammed.

Played the standalone expansion where you can raise your level to do the final dungeons or whatever and while the dungeon was fun, it was still a pretty bland game.

Is Destiny 2 going to fix any of that or is it the same thing? No idea why but I'm kinda interested.

>>388608746
>bland voice acting a reason not to play a game

How entitled are you

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>no dedicated servers
>30 fps when most mainstream console games run 60 fps for multiplayer
>literally the same exact engine gwaphix, models animations, assets, etc
>pc release 7 weeks after console
>only 4v4 pvp, no more big team battles
>no more custom games
>ships are still just loading screens
>microtransactions
>exclusive ps4 content
>weapons no longer have random rolls
>no more mix/matching talents
>not even a 4th class, lazy fucks

It's a fun game to play, but I'm guessing a lot of people will wait for reviews from certain YouTubers

>>388611393
so that proves the point that destiny2 is just a normie bait.
Thanks

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>bland voice acting
Look at this scrub who isn't intelligent enough to appreciate the work of art that is Dinklebot.

>>388615660
It's literally just vanilla Destiny all over again, with the same number of pre-announced expansions. It's probably best to wait until at least one of those expansions comes out first.

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>>388609368

no
3000 hours into destiny 1, destiny 2 is going to be more of the same and i don't feel like doing it again

>>388616072
>Dinklebot
They removed him in an update to D1. This was ages ago too.

>>388615125
could i have some? don't feel like paying for this, but am willing to play it for free

Alright Negers, I've never played Destiny, which class and subclass do i choose? I enjoy bringing some support to the team, either a shield or heal, also im not the best with single shot weapons so for these reasons I have eliminated the Hunter class. Which one is overall. More versatile and fun? Titan or Warlock?

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>>388617098
And that's exactly my point. OP is parroting meme complaints gleaned from archaic impressions of the original game.

>>388608746
PC gamers get a pass because they didnt suffer through the first game, but for console owners this is an expansion being sold as a sequel, I hope most people remember the tedious grind and patchwork story and refrain from buying this shit.

>>388617273
Warlock is more versatile and fun, and has good heals. Plus, flaming sword.

Titan has better defense, both for himself and teammates, and had excellent melee capability.

Up to you, really. Wanna soar around with a flamesword and heal puddles, or bash shit to pieces with your fist and your shield?

>>388608746
people like you make the games sound good actually, if little bitching faggots on /v/ hate a game it usually means the game is good.

>>388615889
>literally the same exact engine gwaphix, models animations, assets, etc

I thought they were doing a new engine because the first engine was absolute ass to work with?

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These ability cooldown times are still fucking insane. I got to use my Hunter throwing knife only 3 fucking times in a quick play match. If this is the shorter ones I don't even want to know what the console beta was like.

And on top of that the abilities are worse than in D1 too. Buffed melee is no longer a one shot kill which makes it fucking pointless in most cases, and grenades aren't too hot either for how long they take to use again.

>>388617518
Eh I played it and it was just a toned down World of Warcraft/Halo more Wow than halo btw

>>388617686
is that supposed to be a bad thing?

>>388617494
I dont remember shit, I jumped in before Rise of Iron released, then got account with rise of iron from russians for 3$ and had a blast.

>>388618208
I played until ROI, did ever raid, got every piece of raid and Trials armor, the grind was horrific, and the idea of raid matchmaking chills me to the bone, no thanks.

>>388617635
This.

Can't they nerf the power of the abilities but give them a shorther cooldown so it doesn't feel like I constantly have to hoard abilities?

>>388618413
Yeah really. I'd rather abilities suck but get spammed than this.

>>388618413
>>388617635
i may be wrong but they said that this is an old build,and the cooldown timer are much lower that the one we got now

>>388609221
>Everything was a bullet sponge
Okay did you watch it with both eyes closed and muted?

>>388618985
console was the old build
they said that the PC one is slightly newer and has lower timers but no one has measured it exactly yet

everyone knew it was still going to be slow as shit

>>388618413

The ability timers have already been changed from the beta build + you're supposed to factor your exotic abilities into your cooldown timers.

>>388608746
How can I possibly explain why to a person who has either never played the first game or played it for 2 hours on launch and has no clue of its vast improvements over the years?

All I can say it's that Destiny2 is worth its price, the Raid pretty much guarantees that. Will it be perfect? Will it get 200 hours out of me instead of 150? To be honest, I don't care. It's "good enough" for me.

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So it's the 29th almost 3pm. Where's the open beta?

>>388621023
If they open it at 11:59pm I'm going to shoot some niggers

>>388609221
It's an rpg, what did you expect

>>388621023
>>388621156
Some anon in last night's thread said 10 PT, so in 4 hours if he spoke the truth.

>>388621023
it's always NA you retard

>>388621350
Yep, I assume it's 10 AM PT because that's what time the Beta started yesterday for pre-orders. Since it was a one day head start, it'll have been 24 hours in 4 more hours.

Played the beta yesterday and boy was the acting/writing bad. Also there's nothing to do in the beta except play pvp. It makes me want to cancel my preorder but I got a pretty sweet deal on it.

>>388622179
I kind of got into the gameplay after I'd played for a while. Try replaying the PvE a few times.

I don't know about others but I mostly just hated the guns. They're not the sort of guns that I would choose given the option, but it seems there are very few available.

Why the fuck they made a beta for the PVP instead of a beta like destiny 1 where you could at least explore one place
i fucking hate pvp in pve games

>>388622595
It makes no sense.

All it does is make it obvious that the PvP is going to descend into gun metas because some are just straight up better than others for fighting other players.

>>388608746
is it possible to preload the pc beta?

>>388622658
Bungie can't even balance guns
As soon they cry for "NERF X GUN" they fuck up all the balance,pvp and pve

>>388622774
Nope.

>>388608746
Just play Warframe, it's better and it's free

>want to try beta
>have to make Blizzard account
Can I just make an account with a throwaway email and fake name or something?

>>388622973
>Grindframe

>>388608746
Someone has honesty got to explain the appeal of this game to me, the beta felt like a chore trying to play.

>>388623206
>Destigrind

>>388622973
I don't like Warframe.

>>388608746

>auto aim on pc when you plug the controller in

absolute no buy.

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>>388623446
>playing an FPS with a controller
>on fucking PC

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>>388623724
you misunderstand

plugging in a controller gives your mouse aim magnetism

>>388624261
As it does with nearly every other FPS when played with a controller. Especially Bungie shooters.

>>388624261
If you're saying that plugging in a control will still somehow give aim assist while playing with a mouse and keyboard, that is an issue and that's part of why there's a Beta. That would not stick.

But if you're just complaining that people who choose to play with a controller get console-like aim assist, well, what do you expect.

>>388617635
Maybe it's balanced around gear perks. Isn't strength, discipline and intellect gone?

>>388615889
>>388617583
literally fake news

>not even a 4th class, lazy fucks
they made a third sublcass for each classes btw

>literally the same exact engine gwaphix, models animations, assets, etc
no, its on a new engine

>30 fps when most mainstream console games run 60 fps for multiplayer

its 60+ fps on PC.

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>>388623724
I was gonna buy it on PS4 just so I could play it with a controller. After years of consolization and returning to PC my mouse aim is subpar, and Destiny's shootan actually felt great with a controller. Still not sure if I'll actually buy it at all though. I know it's gonna be just like the first on launch with barebones content, but I actually had fun mindlessly grinding strikes while listening to music. Probably gonna wait till the first expansion drops and see what it's like from there.

>>388625101
New engine as in new engine or is it new engine as in one 0.0001 version higher?

>>388625204
0.0001 version higher
they can't separately balance PvE and PvP still because they're still on the same tied-together engine as D1

>>388608746
Open beta started already?

I am. Feels as close to Halo as you get on a PS4 these days. Didn't feel right on PC though.

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>>388608746
is it me or does the game seem a bit graphically lacking on pc? i'm running the game on a custom rig with a 1080 gpu, 16g ram, i7 processor, and a 4k monitor for what its worth. i should be able to run everything smoothly on maxed out settings, but the game seems pretty unpolished and slow, and i dont believe i'm getting a true 60fps.

i'm hoping that its just some drivers that nvidia needs to churn out that will fix the issues.
anyone else having similar issues?

Post-TTK Destiny was good, I'm unsure how this game will be with their marketing consisting of Borderlands-tier humor delivered by a character they flattened out into a caricature of his former self.

>>388625494
nope runs fine on my 1080TI SLI
>fell for the 1080 meme

>>388625653
>character
No such thing in Destiny.

>>388608746
Anybody know what time the PC beta goes live today??

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>>388625101
>literally couldn't even defend half of the points

>>388625494
actually unoptimized yet or gimpworks to sell their 1080Tis
I want an investigation on release

>>388625494
Why would you buy a 4k monitor and play on 1080? You know the 1080 is not a 4k card?

>>388625815
probably in about 3 hours

>>388625716
The 1080ti is only marginally better than the 1080. Both should be able to run the game at maxed out graphics.

>>388626029
>The 1080ti is only marginally better than the 1080

wrong

>>388626010
Thanks breh

>>388625653
Cayde has been memey since day one, people just didn't notice on account of him doing nothing until TTK

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>>388625852
i tried

>>388625978
I work for geeksquad, so i get higher end hardware for almost nothing from bestbuy. You do notice a visual difference on a 4k monitor when connecting through the display port, even if the card isnt meant to run at 4k.

>>388626065
Explain.

was there a reason to play the first besides "muh bungie"?

spending hours shooting at that loot cave in the first one is a particular low point in my life.

>>388625770
They existed in Destiny.

Playing Destiny was an exercise in trying to ignore all the good foundations the game set up in favor of the most by-the-books grinding and shooter play imaginable. Vanilla Destiny had some amazing play areas and some good foundational lore, it was actually cool to read about stuff like the whole Thorn/Last Word story, and it hit this perfect confluence of Western, Sci-Fi, and Fantasy genres. The gameplay had some pop and the guns felt really good to shoot. The Last Word might be one of my favorite guns in games period.

But the game was very slow-paced. Very boring mission structure. Backseated fun co-op play and vehicles so that you could just go to a place and shoot 15 things. Story goes literally nowhere and anything interesting is ignored in favor of keeping status quo in a MMO-lite. Characters like Variks, Mara Sov, and Xur end up doing nothing but handing out samey quests even though they get a ton of cool stuff in unlockable lore snippets.

TTK helped a little bit by making a lot of the stuff in the story mode cool to play through, involving the existing characters, having more character interaction, more character dialogue, and more interesting mission structure. I wasn't on board with the game long enough to play Rise of Iron, but I think they continued it a little bit.

>>388626412
Having friends, being an alpha bull.

>>388626136
Him being a reluctant desk jockey out of obligation to a dead friend wasn't nearly as memey as he became for all the Destiny 2 stuff.

>>388626434
>tfw got Ice Breaker from farming loot cave

good times

Friendly PSA: This beta is basically a demo version of the game. It's super barebones. Skill trees for guns, armor, subclasses and your stats in general are all locked off. And the pvp modes they included are the worst ones. Control points is garbage like it always has been. And the strike they included is a ln early level one that they have you over leveled for and playing on easy.

YOU HAVE CAPTURED ZONE C. THAT'S A POWER PLAY.

>>388625494
at 1080p runs at perfect 60 for me.

Sadly I can't run it at 144 because I broke my 144hz monitor

>>388626434
>spent multiple days worth of hours shooting into the loot cave
>all yellow engrams gave purple items

Didnt really pay off for me.

>>388626589
I could modify some shit in my subclass, like switching between Empowering and Healing Rift and grenade types, but yeah it seemed like there was a load of shit missing.

I'm saying this from having seen fragments of Destiny 1 livestreams.

>getting trick'd into buying a $60 """"""""game"""""""" with practically no content
>spending an additional $120 for DLC
goy goyim, don't forget to preorder the deluxe edition!

>>388626970
>don't forget to preorder the deluxe edition
One step ahead of you. :^)

>>388626434
Loot cave is actually a high point for me.

It's one of those accidental things that's a byproduct of MMO jankiness that ends up bringing the community together. It's a grimy silly thing that has no place in the super sterilized contemporary gaming scene. Sure, it was exploitable for farming loot, so it had to go, but it was bit of fun just sitting around with everyone else on the planet making emotes and fucking with the cave.

>>388626970
>look mom i'm fitting in on 4chan
poor kid, you'll grow up one day

>>388626905
There is a ton of shit missing that will.for sure be in the actual game.
>2 of 3 subclasses available
>1 of 3 attunements available
>weapons are super basic and the only thing you can do is swap scopes for most of them
>armor has no real stats
>discipline, intellect, strength are missing
>only pvp mode is the always god awful control points
>no sparrows
>no hub
>no dailies
>no patrols
>strike is automatically set to easy and you're over leveled for it as well
>all gear is marked as legendary (even though their traits and skill trees reflect common)

A lot more. But yeah, this is a veeerrrryyy basic demo.

Is it true the crosshair isn't centred on console?

>>388627837
It's daft really because people will think this is representative of the full game.

>>388608746
Played from day one until the first dlc was released. After getting the plat i just simply quit. To summarize my whole within the game in one word: shit

>>388627987
well then have this confirmed list of disappointments mr daft
>>388615889

>>388608746

I would've been excited for it had I not played the first and seen their business model. Requiring a yearly payment to keep playing the same content because they lock EVERYTHING behind a DLC pay wall.

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https://youtu.be/XHqFI5kH_vk
>this everything
Yeah, nah, I think I'm gonna skip this. It seems like a technically well-made game, but goddamn its so by-the-books its almost impressive.

I mean, its like they set out to make the most soulless game they could. Fuck.

>>388609327
What exactly did it change? Each time they added a raid/new gear, it negated any need what-so-ever for previous ones, resulting in a wash of relevant content. If you bought the game at TTK, minus the new story missions (which take about a casual evening to beat) you had almost the same amount of content as people did at launch. End-game content remained minimal as fuck. No need to go through the old shit. Still one raid a week to run. Still expected to grind a piss pot worth of strikes if you wanted to do more than that. Still blatantly leading on/ignoring the community's widespread complaints. Still locking people out of content they previously had with every new expansion. I don't know where that fixed shit came from but I don't see it at all.

>>388627837
>strike is automatically set to easy and you're over leveled for it as well
>all gear is marked as legendary (even though their traits and skill trees reflect common)
So are the bosses even worse bullet sponges?

>>388628221
Honestly looks like a bad Warframe copy

>>388628221
looks good whats the problem anime poster?

Not many games have came out recently

It's shit.

>>388628221
It looks so fucking much like Destiny 1 it's infuriating. After they got so much shit for being lazy with content on D1 I can't tell if I'm surprised or not. Who the fuck has the balls to give a game new maps and call it a sequel, and why do they get away with this shit when it's one of the highest budget franchises of all time?

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>>388627048
>be a proud shilled

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>>388628947
Bought it on two platforms. :^)

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>>388628378
The problem is that its like I'm looking at the result of a "How to make a AAA FPS" tutorial.
>Fancy grafics? Check.
>""Epic"" soundtrack? Check.
>""Epic"" 'resistance fighter' (Let's show them what ______ are made of!) dialogue? Check.
>Enemies are all the same base guy with different weapons/shields? Check.
>The 'turn corner and see enemy picking up NPC and throwing him' animation? Check.
>The 'big firefight you can see through a window but can't interact with' sequence? Check.
>The 'turn corner and see group of enemies shooting at something off-screen, then they die 2 seconds later' sequence? Check.
>The 'defend against X amount of waves of the same 2 enemies' sequence? Check.
Never even mind that it's still doing shit like full health regen and 2-3 weapon limit. Seriously, there's nothing even remotely unconventional/non-standard about this game.

>>388609195
So how fun is it for someone with a semi-casual completionist WoW background? Can I log in and grind shit for hours?

>tfw already paid $90 for the ps4 version

>>388629085
You'll probably either quit after two weeks or want to bomb bunjie HQ.

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>>388629075
>The 'turn corner and see enemy picking up NPC and throwing him' animation? Check.

Didn't even think about this till you pointed it out, but you're right. How many godamn times have we seen this in games? Devs fucking love it.

>>388617273
Weapons and classes aren't interlinked, just look at what super abilities you like most and go from there.

I'm getting it, I have 2 other friends who I play the first one a lot, I can see why a lot of people, specially here don't like it, but I do and I aint gonna defend it, I just like it.

GIVE US THE PRIMUS OR WE BLOW THE SHIP

I preordered D2 and had fun with it. How does that make you poorfags feel?

>>388628308
Harder difficulties mean more enemies, with more health, and they deal more damage.

>bullet sponge bosses
Are you retarded? Yes the bosses have a lot of health, they're bosses, in a shooting game, with 4-6 people shooting at them. So yeah they have a lot of health so the fight can actually last a bit.

>>388627837

>discipline, intellect, strength are missing

No. They've been replaced with "resilience" and whatever the other two stats were that I can't remember off the top of my head.

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>>388608746
When does the open beta go live?

>>388629540
You like what you see, but the demo doesn't show you where the content runs out and how far past that point Bunjie keeps the gear you want.

I know this word is super fucking taboo around here, but I'll say it anyway. Destiny is pretty fun. I prepurchsed D2 for PC after playing it on Xbone and PS4. The bulk of my time was spent on Xbone though. PS4 was only because of like one friend who wanted to play and by Xbone was dead at the time.

Destiny 2, as far as I can tell from the beta is more of the same. Prettier package, better weapon loadout configuration. More customization on a stat level basis for armor and weapons, but overall more of the same Destiny. Pvp is still fun. Pve is still fun. Destiny 1 at launch wasn't great. It was a quick experience with some balance issues and not a lot to keep you interested after an initial play through. They fixed this as expansions came and went. Destiny 1 now has plenty of great content, but even it had a ceiling. I mean come the fuck on, it was designed to run on an old ass console generation. With a shiney new engine we have more possibilities. The way I see it, if D2 at launch is like D1 is now, I am fine with it, and can't wait to see what more fun we get down the road.

>>388629756
Really? That's lame... so is there going to be no way to lower my cooldowns??

>poorfags trying to rationalize in any way that warframe is better
hysterial

>>388629837
2 hours I think

>>388629837
Now

>>388629701
I might be poor but at least I'm not expecting D2 to be good. Feels pretty good.

>>388629905

Doesn't seem that way.

Mobility - run speed/jump height.
Resilience - damage reduction
Recovery - health recovery speed

>>388629741
>instead of engaging mechanics well make him take 5000 bullets to the face
>oh and he'll remove/set the ground on fire for a little while
I'd take a fucking weakpoints that you'd navigate to or some sort of environmental gimmick instead of this garbage.

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>>388628221

>you're supposed to feel sad that the cabal have driven you from the city
>except you never actually got to see anything of the city beyond the tower. you never got to walk its streets or talk to the average citizen
>you've lost something you never had, and the writers expect that to be emotional

Pay attention, /v/. This is Shit Writing 101.

>>388630108
>everyone wondered what's behind that gate behind the speaker
>it opens now
good job bungo

>>388608746
How is the game compared to the first one? What's better and worse?

>>388630090
>instead of engaging mechanics
You should take a look at some of the raid encounters, especially later ones, instead of low tier strike bosses. They lean way more on the mechanical side rather than being a giant shooting target.

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>>388608746
Yeah I'm wondering why people are so excited about this game. My friends are gonna play on PC, so I thought I would atleast check it out since we aren't playing anything online together these days. I checked it out and it's just a bland FPS with probably the least interesting classes I've ever seen in a videogame, so few classes and skills like what the fuck?

I guess you just play for the skinner box loot aspect or something? I can see why people on console might be excited about a game like this, but on PC we have so many more interesting alternatives it's hard to justify buying this.

>>388629905
Directly from armour abilities retard.

>>388630289
> but on PC we have so many more interesting alternatives it's hard to justify buying this.

name one

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>>388629901
See
>>388628223

Also I fail to see how they're utilizing the new hardware so well when all of the animations, effects and many of the assets are recycled. Worst fire ive seen in 10 years to boot.

>>388630269
It's exactly the fucking same

You've got like one extra ability to use, and you have 2 primary weapons instead of one primary and one shitty one but other than that its the same.

>>388608746
I believe a very large amount of people are blindly hyping this because of the marketing and it being a AAA game, but once it's out the majority of them will drop it within a month.

>>388629975
It's probably this
>>388629984
Not this

>>388611393
Fuck off you whiny cunt. He's entitled to an opinion that you don't like

>>388630090
This is like one of the first strikes in the game, and like I said, it's on easy. Meaning there's less mobs to deal with in addition to the boss. What would you like the boss to do as well? He walks/teleports around, shoots grenades, shoots plasma, sets the ground on fire, charges at you.

He's like the "first boss" of the game and you fight him in a really easy setting with less enemies who die very quickly and don't do a lot of damage themselves.

The main strategy for a lot of bosses is going to be managing the mobs while fighting the boss. That's how things have to be since it's a shooter. So for boss fights you need more than one big target for people to shoot. So you give them a big and strong boss, but then you flood them with other enemies.

Like I said, it's less noticeable now since you're over level and you're on easy, so you could essentially ignore the mobs in this beta, making the fight less fun.

Your complaint that enemies are bullet sponges has no merit. Yes, enemies needing to be shot more before you kill them is a way to make them harder. It's not the only way obviously, but yes that's something that they do. And of course bosses take a lot of shots before going down.

>>388630354
All the MMOs, even games like Warframe or Planetside 2 are less bland than this. I'm gonna try the beta but it looks really generic and boring atm. Console shooter #3192

>>388630341
I don't see any armor abilities for lowering cooldowns. Just mobility, resilience, and regen. My question is, did they move strength, discipline, and intellect somewhere else? Because they aren't on armor anymore, retard.

>>388608746
It's that kind of game where you don't really tryhard or pay attention to much (most of the time), so when you play with your friends you can talk about random shit. Or you just watch streams while playing it.

Kind of like looting phase in PUBG, not much going on and most of it you've seen already, you just play it for the sake of playing something.

So basically, it's pretty trash as a game, but ok with friends.

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>>388630832
>Planetside 2 and Warframe being less bland than anything
you are comedian, yes?

>>388630929
We just don't know right now. And we probably won't know until the 6th unless some more shit leaks between now and then.

>>388630090
>>388630732
Reminder that strikes are one of the things you grind in end-game.

>>388628576
Nintendo did with Splatoon 2.

>>388608746
Since it's easy as fuck to aim while floating as a Warlock compared to console does that mean they're gonna be OP in PvP?

>>388631276
No because it's just going to be easy as fuck to aim back at you

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>>388630929
mod slots, you can't use them in the beta

>>388609543
>Stands five feet away from Alak-Hul
>Dies in less than a second

>>388615386
So do I understand it correctly that there is no way for people who haven't preordered the game to preload the beta?

>>388631168
Yeah and also fuck Nintendo for that.

>>388631426
Cool, I saw there was a thing to remove mod slots or whatever. OK so that's fine then, I was worried that we were stuck with just mobility, resilience, and regen now instead.

>>388609369
Destiny is bad for a lot of reasons but satisfying gunplay in PVE is the one thing they did well.

When Vault of Glass first came out I had a Lord High Fixer with Outlaw and using it to one-shot precision kill the Harpies in Atheon's fight was the most satisfying thing ever. Still didn't make up for:
>>peer to peer despite a $300 million budget
>>vanilla material farming was the most cancerous grind I've ever seen, worse than wow rune cloth rep farming
>>shot package rifled barrel/hammer forged felwinter's lie and final round efrideet's spear making every crucible match a one shot shitshow
>>duplicate drops in raids despite using a personal loot system
>>bosses having too much health while dealing no damage and having baby's first dungeon mechanics, so when people use gjallarhorn melt strats to compensate they balance around the mongo damage rather than nerf ghorn and make good bosses
>>when ghorn is left behind bosses are still shit and people just use swords to melt instead changing dick all
>>cheese strats for bosses being unchanged forever rather than hotfixing them so raids are meaningless and the MMO "endgame" content is a joke with no difficulty or prestige associated with it
>>only 3 stats, one of which is fucking dogshit for everyone who isn't a wombocombo hunter and that subclass wasn't even added until well into the game's life
>>adding microtransaction cosmetics and mtx-only seasonal events to a $60 game with multiple paid ""expansions""
>>boring and lazy weapon balance, 99% of perks are trash

>>388609543
The boss in the beta is set to easy and you're over leveled for the mission. That aside, he will still one shot you if you stand next to hin, he can also one shot you with his grenade if it hits you and you don't have high resilience.

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>>388622973
As someone who plays a lot of Warframe, why would I want to bother with Destiny? The gameplay looks incredibly slow, and the grind matching Warframe's multiplies that slowness.

>>388632402
You clearly wouldn't, have no intention to, and you're shit posting. What's with all of the Warframe fags lately?

>>388632402
As someone who has played a ton of both games. The grind is MUCH more tedious in Warfarm. The gunplay is also worse. The two things Warframe does slightly better is movement, and abilities.

>>388632474
>if you don't want to play Destiny, you are a shitposter

wew

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>>388632087
This

>>388632474
I'm not >>388632402
but I'm one of those warframe fags. I'm waiting on the open beta today to try it and I'm still looking for more to go on.

I've kinda missed the halo style shooter for a long time; I want to like destiny, but if there's nothing more to go on I might as well go with the game that's free.

>>388632402
It's slower but the weight of your specials feels a bit better
The faggot that I picked uses a special attack thats essentially excal's 4, but it doesn't last as long. When you hit an enemy with it, it feels a powerful instead of just cutting though hoards of corpus fuckheads

>Will never get a strike based around fighting through a bunch of Hive trying to resurrect Dredgen Yor as a zombie champion
>Then fighting Dredgen Yor himself as you got there too soon
>With an option to purify/corrupt Thorn (Two different pools of essence or something after you beat him) for cosmetic purposes

I wish they did stuff with the cool background lore.

>>388632474
Literally defensive.

>>388608746
what's the difference between borderland and this game?

>>388632675
Not what I said.

>>388632805
>bungie
>effort
>lore in-game
Naaaaah

>>388632721
Sounds like the kind of thing I'd have to actually play to get a feel for. I hope there's going to be a demo or something I can try then.

PC open beta starts at 10am right?

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>>388632970
the old bungie would have put in the effort

>>388608746

He is right about bullet sponge bosses.

Every none raid boss in Destiny was basically peak out of cover and shoot boss, if it looks at you get back behind cover. You usually got 3-4 hits before it kills you so it's plenty of time to hide.
Every now and then the boss will spawn a wave of grunts because if it didn't you'd run out of ammo before killing the boss.

The only boss that is different from this is the darkblade boss, and only because it's melee only so you don't need to hide behind cover, just walk away when it chases you.

Hopefully Destiny 2 fixes this shit because this kind of boss design is fucking terrible and having to fight these kinds of bosses hundreds, or even thousands of times is in no way fun.

>>388632970
Actually, they're getting rid of the stupid grimoire stuff and putting all the lore in game this time instead.

>>388632805
There were a few cool strikes. The one where you fight the imprisoned Hive boss in a pitch black room and he stalks you around with a big fuck off sword was pretty fun.

The biggest thing is that most of their strike bosses aren't dynamic. They need some kind of fun thing to happen in the last third or so of the fight. Or some specific mechanic that really gives the fight flavor. Like that giant Cyclops that was called the Untamed? Or Unbroken? I don't remember, but it was about a newly spawned Cyclops that hadn't been bent to the Hive's will yet, so they had it chained up.

If it got free and started just berserking, shooting Hive targets as well as players, it would have given the fight a lot of flavor, but in the end all it did was just kind of stand there and shoot continuous lasers at the players.

>>388633146
Everything we see points to 99% of this game being recycled. Im guessing strike bosses will be braindead tanks and the novel bosses will be left for the people with full fireteams just like D1.

>>388632402
you don't need to wait days to get every guns if i remember correctly destiny does this but with only with 2 exotic
No need to wait 4 days for a new set of abilities
no need to level up shitty guns to get mastery and unlock even more shitty guns
no need to grind for the dojo to get more powerful weapons
Bungie may be shit at balancing guns,but at least they don't ruin a whole class of guns because one of them was used everywhere
Yes i'm still mad that they killed the tonkor
in the end they are both shitty grind game,one has more stuff but it's shit and only a bunch of weapon are useful while the other has less shit but you can use everything
Nezha is gay

>>388608746
Is it still halo meets Borderlands 2?

I think I'll play borderlands 2 and then remind myself that having characters with one solitary ability is pretty boring to go through an entire game with.

Does anyone know if bungie confirmed stormcaller, nightstalker and sunbreaker? I feel like they aren't in the game it comes out real soon and they haven't showed anything about em.

The game is built for gambling addicts be happy you arent ome of them. this is no different from Gacha shit.

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Anyone looking foward to Swindlestiny 2 is an idiot. It'll just be a repeat of Destiny but without the good music since they fired Marty in an illegal attempt to avoid paying him.

>>388634523
not even now
it's just sub par PvE experience on top of a sub par PvP experience

>>388634657
I got sucked into the hype for Destiny 1, and got the game plus the expansion pass. Dropped the game within two months. Got an email about a new expansion for it, figured I had it already since I had the season pass. Logged in, NOPE, giev us money. Fuck that shit.

>>388608746
I'm kind of looking forward to it but literally no point of getting it at launch when you could wait 6-12 months and then play it with all the patches and DLCs.

>>388634087
>but at least they don't ruin a whole class of guns because one of them was used everywhere
This was actually pretty common in D1. From what I recall there was always a gun that was all around better than every other gun in its respective class. And usually a gun that was clearly best in the game.

>>388634657
>It'll just be a repeat of Destiny but without the good music since they fired Marty

But they have Salvatori, who we now know is the real talent.

>>388635210
they managed to nerf that gun,not the whole class of guns
Like the Thorn,they just nerfed it,not all the handcannon
i stopped at the taken king,so i may be wrong
While in Warframe all the launchers with some kind of explosive are almost useless because if you get caught in the AOE you get oneshotted

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Why is there no demo download option in battle net app?

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>tfw always last on team

>>388608746

>>bland voice acting

literally every video game

>bland bullet sponge enemies

literally every shooter

>farming for days in an FPS game...

literally every online game

>literally 0 story

literally every open world game

>bland progression system

subjective

This is just another video game. The issue here is you played one video game before destiny, and thus, played 80% of videos games

>>388635787
36 min

>>388635979
thanks

If it has boss themes as kino as Aksis it will be okay

>>388635934
who cares
just finish games
you will improve

>>388632402
i honestly cant play warframe anymore because i cant stand the way it looks. everything looks like a jumbled mess in that game.

>>388636293
yeah man I can't play any game that isn't bland space marines either

>>388624939
They removed that and replaced it with mobility, resilience and recovery. I actually like the strenght, discipline and intelect, but didn't liked how sometimes when I change armour it gets 299. I always run max intellect and discipline. Too bad you can't increase abilities cooldown anymore...

>>388628221

Story wise, this already looks like shit compared to D1 - and that's a hell of a feat.

Isn't it strage that exo(robot) character love food and eating. How is that even possible, I know he used to be human, but still how can exo eat and drink? I'm talking about Cayde-6 for those who don't know who I'm talking about.

Titanfall 2 was far superior to the first one.

beta up for download

>>388638932
its not

Destiny 2 will be great after all the DLC is out and at a reduced price

>>388636467
better than a mess of glossy shit with no sense of practicality or visual coherence behind it whatsoever

What is the appeal of the Destiny games? They look like generic loot-shooters to me.

>>388635934

Keep on keeping on. Everyone was there once. You will get better.

beta up bros

just restart your battlnet client and you can install it

IT'S UP BOIS

>>388608746
I will just play the beta then forget about it, like I do with all the other shitty online shooters.

>>388635758

They did. There was a time when Thornes were literally EVERYWHERE and if you weren't on the thorne wagon you weren't winning. They fixed it then. I quick just after finishing Rise of Iron. They still hadn't fixed some of the crazy buildouts then though. Fucking infinite grenade sunsinger was pretty fucking OP.

>>388639551
That's it. It just another dank purp treadmill. Its fucking awful. I feel so disconnected from games these days. What's the appeal of this shit?

>>388639551
That could itself be the appeal. For instance, someone looking for a generic game to play as a palette-cleanser between better games.

>>388639551
Gunplay is good and people like to autistically grind for the next best thing.

>400k internet
>loading with 3.4mb/s

FUCK IT

>>388635934
>tfw I'm last to spawn in d1 but always have the most points/best KD

inb4
> buy 1080 to run it on smooth 60

>>388615889
I feel like companies purposely release these kinds of games just to test the waters. Just to see how little effort they need to expend and still yield profitable returns on their investment.

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>>388641743
Think again.

The first one despite everything shitty, had good combat.
If it was a single player game with all that other shit stripped out and an ok story it would be an 8/10