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ITT: "I like this game but the ending was complete shit."

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ITT: "I like this game but the ending was complete shit."
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I thought the twist at the end was predicable was fuck, literally called it the moment the bad guy was introduced and he said his name, but when the mechs started coming out I just about lost all interest. I didn't play this for mechshit.
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>>388602952
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>>388603440
I still don't know who the bad guy is and his "plan". Who the hell was Aizawa
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>>388602952
The ending music was great
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>>388603440
Agree 1000%. Aizawa being the main antagonist made no sense and came out of fucking nowhere. I have never seen a game shoot it's self in the foot as hard as Yakuza 5 did.

Also props to being one of the 12 people who have only played 0.
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>>388603364
The mechs were too much. I don't see why there had to be mechs aside from Falcom just thinking it would be cool but it's lame as fuck and poorly executed.
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>>388604523
*Didn't start with Zero*
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>>388602952
Dark Messiah of Might and Magic.
>all dat fun
>all dat cock teasing
>congrats son you beat the boss and did the thing with the magic plot device, time to go back to the title screen
>Ending? The fuck is that?
Yeah fuck you too DM.
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>>388603364
OP you didn't play any of the earlier Trails games did you?
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>>388604672
>>388603364
>complaining about mech
did you even play the previous entry of this series.
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>>388602952
If you thought CS1's ending was shit, hoo boy. Just wait til you play the sequel.

It literally never ends. I was begging, pleading for the game to be fucking done with. They even rolled credits at some point and... IT KEPT GOING.
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>>388607356
There were no credits in that video, so no, they didn't roll credits.
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The game as a whole was really bad aside from a couple of cute waifus (Towa, Fie and Sara). How do you go from Trails in the Sky (which in all honestly isn't that good in the first place) to this crap is beyond me.
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>>388603364
>>388604672
>>388607356
Really hope these shitters stay away from trails threads.
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>>388607350
Doesn't stop it from being shit.
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>>388607356
The second ending was pretty shit too.

Everyone graduates early except Rean, who is now a pawn of the government, political tensions are now even more fucked because Erebonia has now annexed Crossbell and has regained the military might it had before the 100 Days War, and Osborne is "hijacking" the Phantasmal Blaze plan (whatever that means). It was cool fighting the White Shadow, but even the White Shadow admitted that killing it would do nothing.

Next to nothing is actually resolved.
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>>388607447
Well then I clearly misremembered that small tidbit. In my defense it was at the tail end of a several hour long dungeon featuring a billion fucking boss fights, and loads of talking heads.
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The twist lost it's impact on me because there was literally only 2 people who C could have been and I was not invested in that character at all so I didn't give a fuck he was a bad guy. Plus he always a shady distant character anyway so I didn't trust him to begin with.
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>>388607691
Yes, there is a movie clip there, but there are definitely no credits. You wouldn't be the first anon to think that there were.
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>>388607712
>mfw I used all my bonding points on just the girls like literally everybody
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>>388607678
>Next to nothing is actually resolved.

Welcome to Trails.

This is why I gave up on this series.
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>Liberl's first game is shit and you need to wait for the second one for the series to get good
>Erebonia's first game is shit and you need to wait for the second one for the series to get good
>Crossbell's first game is good from the start and apparently Ao is the best in the series

How did they do it? I've been playing Zero and the story so far is way more interesting and less boring as shit.
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>>388607887
I would save scum to see all the events but yeah, I always dumped my points into the girls and Elliot because he was the only guy in my final party.
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>Normal Ending leaves many things to be desired
>go into True Ending hoping it answers my questions and gives more closure
>just get a happier ending, none of my questions are answered, nothing is closed up more in any way
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>>388607712
>there was literally only 2 people who C could have been
Really? It could have literally been anybody. Including an all new unrevealed to that point character. It sure as hell came out of nowhere to me. And hurt because I hooked up with him for the school fesitival because damn if he wasn't a bro.

>>388607756
Looking back over it, I think what tripped me up was that the movie clip had text accompanying it. I vaguely recalled that as being credits when in fact it was sony lyrics.

I can't be blamed for that mistake because that was probably literally the first time in game history an insert song actually got fucking translated lyrics. And yet the OP/ED themes did not... sigh.
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>>388607350
The closest thing that come to the sleek-Xenogear mechs in CS are the Orbal Gear Tita has and Pater Mater, and Pater Mater is huge and bulky and unwieldy while the Orbal Gear is barebones. Also, did Rean really need ANOTHER "I'm a super special main character" flag after his dark powers shit?

I agree with the OP. I liked the game, but it's definitely the worst Trails game I've played.
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>>388602952
>Haremshit turns into mechashit
>Your much hyped deep dark backstory is literally nothing
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>>388608075
I have no idea why Aksys even brought vanilla TX over. Isn't TXex+ supposed to be the "complete" version of the game anyway? Seems like a waste of resources.
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>>388608070
>Elliot
>not Emma
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>>388608096
It's pretty unusual. Translated lyrics are apparently nightmare mode for localizations because it can require negotiating with record companies, who are even crazier than the seiyuu agencies.
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>>388608096
You're just some retarded Fujo. All the ILF had their codenames as the first letter of their names, and they weren't going to have the masked guy be a character you didn't know. So then you're left with either Crow or Duke Cayenne, and the Duke is some pussy faggot you meet late into the game anyway.

See I thought the game was being at least competent by trying to red herring Neithardt, but then they did that retarded thing of Code Name = First letter of name shit and it became so obvious.
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>>388608219
why not both?
Laura elliot emma was my set up
two glass canons and a healer
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>>388608163
Because they want to sell it to you repeatedly on different platforms.
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>>388608267
>All the ILF had their codenames as the first letter of their names
I didn't pick up on that, but from reading other peoples thoughts online, literally everybody else did. So sure, I guess I'm retarded.
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>>388608113
>Also, did Rean really need ANOTHER "I'm a super special main character" flag after his dark powers shit?

This annoyed the hell out of me.

>TitS
>Other than being the daughter of a famous soldier, Estelle is a normal girl
>Zero/Ao
>Main character is a normal guy
>CS
>Rean is ripped out off a chuuni fantasy with the dark powers of hell and the chosen one for a giant robot

I liked how the previous main protagonists were relatively normal people. It made them more relatable than generic harem protagonist #666.
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>>388608163
They had already gotten the license for vanilla TX before eX+ was revealed and they didn't want to waste the money spent on it.
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>>388608442
I didn't, because villains with those names were third rate and obviously not a part of bigger picture, I expected some kind of a twist from Crow but not that he is C. I though he was a spy or other kind of magical faggot like Emma.
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>>388608113
Pater Mater is also vastly more powerful and technologically advanced.
>>388608442
He also has good alibis, particularly if you think about the sequence of events in Roer being basically physically impossible, so it's not that weird.
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>>388608162
>Your much hyped deep dark backstory is literally nothing

I hope they at least go over it in the next game because it is literally unexplained.
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>>388608484
>joshua
>normal
>bimbo
>normal

sure buddy.
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>>388608484
Oh no, they didn't continue forever copy/pasting their heroes and went in a different direction for one!

>relatable
When did this become a thing and why?
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>>388608267
I actually got spoiled by the whole C thing because I saw the cover to a Falcom music CD from their newsletter emails.
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>>388608727
>responding to anyone who unironically uses 'harem'
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>>388608729
>When did this become a thing and why?

it's self-insert to the max philosophy, most people that preach it don't even realize it.
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>>388608727
>joshua
>protagonist

>bimbo
go away joshette
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>>388608096
V for Vulcan S For Scarlet, G for Gideon so its easy to assume C is someone that we meet at some point with C name. so, Cayanne or Crow like what this say>>388608267
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>>388608603
Yeah but there were no other Cs except cayenne, the little prince and the cat so even if you aren't convinced you should still be entertaining the possibility at the back of your head.
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>>388608219
I always used Elliot and Emma as a healer with some DPS arts and in terms of that, Elliot blows Emma out the water IMO. His crafts are just way better than Emma's. I like that Emma can analyze by default and her revive craft can be handy but I only put one mage in my party and I take Elliot any day of the week over Emma. I always felt somewhat handicapped when Elliot wasn't around, he's just that good.

I always do 2 melee characters, a ranged character and a mage. I like Alisa over the Machias because S-craft spam meme and because Machias is just irredeemably complete garbage for 90% of the game then at the end he becomes good but I've invested too much into Alisa to care at that point. Alisa is also really fast and doubles as a decent spellcaster. My melee characters, I juggle around all the time. I really like Fie because her speed is insane and you can make her really evasive too, she's probably the 'best' melee character for general mobs. Laura is better for bossing most times I think but I'm not a big Laura guy.

I haven't played enough with Jusis to make a judgement call on him but I've heard he's pretty strong if used right. Gaius is pretty broken too since you can spam his S-craft forever if you feel like it.
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The true twist of CS3 will be:

The player characters will actually get to win a legitimate boss fight without having someone stronger leap in after the battles ended and actually defeat person/thing they'd been fighting.
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I love these asshurt CS haters. And most of the time they are Ao/Zero shitters. Reminder that Japan likes CS and Rean far more than Crossbell games or Lloyd. I hope you guys enjoy more Rean in CS3 :^)
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>>388608820
he is, game never goes into "one perspective" narration
it's not told form one perspective it's always group perspective - everyone is a protagonist

CS has it tied to Rean, you watch the world through his eyes.
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>>388608927
>all this time Cedric was training to become a boss
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>>388608953
>japan likes x
>that somehow means it's a great game and we aren't allowed to hate it and like another game
All right then
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I wanna fuck the cat
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>>388609016
That's a load of shit.
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>>388608953
If he develops more of a personality, then I might enjoy him more. I found him really boring in CS I&II, it's like all he did was spout motivational speeches.
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>>388608953
I don't really care for Rean particularly, but if they don't explain why he's such a goddamn special snowflake with his power, his robot, and his fucking Dreichels visions/memories I will be more than slightly upset.
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>>388609016
>everyone is a protagonist
Bullshit. Estelle is clearly the mc.
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>>388608727
Why do people always try to bring up Joshua as if Joshua isn't 10x the character Rean is? FC drops a few subtle hints here and there, but otherwise across FC Joshua is one half of a duo, following Estelle's lead but helping her when she inevitably stumbles in her gung-ho ways. It isn't until the end where his shit really hits the fan, and even then it's been built up all game and he fucks off for the entire first half of the sequel.

Meanwhile, Class 7 cannot do anything without Rean, and his powers have little build up and no subtlety to them, ESPECIALLY Valimar.
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>>388609237
in FC? she is not, in SC she is barely focus changes to other characters even more
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>>388609125
He had personality when he was defending his imouto's innocence from whats his name jerkass richboy. He also throws some nice verbal burns out here and there.
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>>388607887
>actually dating alisa
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>>388609125
I liked how his classmates constantly made fun of him and his speeches.
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>>388609347
Did you speed through those games or something? Estelle is always the centre and they evenmake her leader even though she's younger and there's more qualified people. Hell the sc we got wouldn't exist if Estelle didn't want to get Joshua back.
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>>388609438
Shes fine, as is all of class VII.
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>>388609438
Jokes on you, I went for Towa.
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>>388609438
Alisa is cute though, I want to ejaculate on her thighs.
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>>388609349
>personality
He was stupid because he's still and oblivious and just fed that retard's brocon by being over-protective. Not to mention Ptrick is shit on purpose so you won't feel like rooting for him because no one can touch mc's girls.
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>>388609438
>>388609621
>>388609676
What did they mean by this?
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>>388608953
>playing sora trilogy and crosbell dualogy really hype to see erebonia focus especially after crossbell ending
>hoping for soldier/rpm hijink covering civil war and crossbell occupation.
>instead what i get is high school field trip doing stupid thing
and the most offensive is the special snowflake which they did't even explain how he such special even after 2nd game.
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>>388609750
Alisa is canon girlfriend, as she should be.
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>>388609438
you do know that only alisha that got kiss in the lip from rean, and twice
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>>388609750
Not even otaku and their shitty dating sims can stop Falcom's canon boner.
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>>388609750
>Game is forcing Alisa romance
Fuck you game holy shit
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>>388609861
Is that supposed to not be an even stronger argument against choosing her?
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>>388609750
>mfw I genuinely liked Alisa's scenes with Rean in CS1
>Shes also the only one who kisses rean in CSII
>Shes going to win in 3
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the first borderlands
god i was fucking pissed
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>>388609793
Emma: Something something something mixed something divergent laws.
McBurn: SHUT EMMA YOU KNOW TOO MUCH WE NEED TO KEEP SOME THINGS SECRET FOR THE SEQUEL!!!
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>>388609438
There's nothing with Alisa, she's a sweet cute girl voiced by best girl.
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>>388609920
Feels good my man.
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>>388609920
I like Alisa too, I don't understand the hate. Also it was obvious she was canon love interest from the start if you're even remotely genre savvy.
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>>388609861
>x girl gets more content
>you are obliged to pick her
I'll never understand you people. Why do you feel forced to pick x when they literally let you choose? Especially incs where it's side fluff that has zero consequences in the main plot.
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>>388610023
Because all of the other girls are just as shit as he is. Might as well pick the girl with the most content in that case.
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The first Jak and Daxter had a terrible 100% ending
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Best girl was the nun girl working at the Trista church tbqh.
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>>388605780
You fucked the demon. Sound good to me.
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>>388610071
But if you think everyone's shit maybe you shouldn't pick anyone. Like I said it's not like it'll change anything. I think you guys still forced to pick someone because apparently anything is better than mc not getting a/the girl.
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>>388610098
terrible final boss too
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>>388609872
>>388609920
>>388609943
>>388610002

This is something I don't get about the games post-Sky. Why bother with the harems/pick-your-waifu? Lloyd has Elie, Noel, Fran, Rixia, etc. Rean has Alisa, Fie, Laura, Claire, Elise, Emma, etc. Yet these games have implied love interests with Rean X Alisa and Lloyd X Elie. Were people just REALLY angry with Estelle X Joshua to the point that Falcom had to flat out stop canon pairings? I mean, if a canon pairing is implied, I think Falcom should at least have the balls to make a canon pairing instead of jerking the player around.
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>>388609678
>Get to the bonfire dance part of the festival
>All the adults ask each other out for a dance
>Rean asks Class 7 member for dance
>The rest of Class 7 stand around like loveless assholes because any other pair dancing would interfere with his harem

So boring. Honestly by the end of the game I was actually rooting for Patrick to hook up with Elise, as to show at least someone had a romantic drive. It also pissed me off that all the couples dancing were just random background students. Would it have killed Falcom to have Becky and Hugo dancing back there? Friedel and Loggins? Alan and Bridget??
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>>388609920
Even the side scenes with Alisa like if you take her to the school festival garden and the bonfire dance were miles better than the other girls. It was almost unfair.
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L.A Noire
Life is Strange
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>>388610321
Fucking falcom
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>>388610259
I kind of prefer it since I can't stand Alisa. In Sky the issue was mitigated by making the girl the main character, so you wanted her to win over those filthy rival sluts and Olivert.
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>>388602952
memories of celceta
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>>388610259
The current lead of the Trails series called the Joshua/Estelle romance "Embarrassing". Expect more Bonding Points shit as Falcom desperately tries to force their niche franchise into the mass market, failing to realize that shit doesn't work because Persona games are intentionally shallow to make way for dating simulations.
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>>388610259
>school setting+dating sim
They really wanted a new audience. I guess Crosbell's pseudo-harem was testing the waters but at least those games still had a semblance of plot and characterization. With CS they just focused on mundane/fanservice stuff and since it worked they didn't see a reason to stop.
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Behold, as the game completely implodes in the last half hour.
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>>388610453
That game was so boring compared to the other Ys games I've played. I can barely remember the ending. Wasn't the ending something like Adol beats evil kid what's his face in his Akashic Record form, then has to throw the Akashic Record into a volcano but is stopped by evil kid what's his face's shadow, Adol wins, then it just ends with no closure?
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>>388610548
Literally every Layton game ever though. That series has the most retarded twists imaginable.
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>>388610382
Fucking Japan.
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>>388610430
I hate the fact that Joshua gets a fucking Harem for no reason other than self-insert

at least he mans up and gets Kloe to fuck off and literally ignores josette, he only have eyes for delicious Estelle, that's x10 above generic MCs
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>>388610606
I'm the opposite. oath in felghana bored the piss out of me. the clumsy combat and dated graphics certainly don't help.
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>>388610543
>Alan&Bridget, Ferris and Patrick get more character development than Gaius "muh wind" and Laura "sword autism"

nice
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>>388610713
They really don't hide how thirsty they are for foreign pussy.
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>>388610813
The closer you are to the Rean the worst your development will suffer. He's a good kid but he really sucks the personality out of almost everyone.
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>>388610713
Japan has a blond fetish.
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>>388610543
>>388610813
The post Persona 4 syndrome where you can't mature or solve your problems without the MC comming to save you/suck your cock/give you the dick is one of the worst things that could've happened to videogames.
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>>388610813
>tfw Anton and Ricky get more character development than the cast of Cold Steel
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>>388608671
Lower your expectations down to zero, everybody expects the reveal to be him sperging out and murdered some bandits with his powers or something, but it's essentially nothing. He killed a bear, it's stupid.
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>>388610194
Rosine.
Just wait until you do a ng+ in Sen II
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>>388611719
I think after 6 games the biggest twist for me was how the professor with glasses not only wasn't the bad guy but he was he was also working for the church.
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>>388610904
Does that apply to adol though.
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>>388612126
>Adol
>development
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>>388611719
>>388612089
There's more if you play NG+? Tell me, is he a Dominion?
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>>388610430
the thing is you hated Alisa because so many waifu choices took so much space from the implied canon.
if only they could focus on her and rean, I mean she could be likable at least
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>>388612363
He's the second Dominion
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>>388612363
Yes and Rosine is his squire. They're attending the academy undercover.
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>>388612450
>>388612459
Well, shit.
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>>388612459
It really isn't trails without at least one undercover gralsritter.
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>>388612661

People who wear glasses in kiseki are never who they're pretending to be: Weissman, Joachim, Ian, Thomas, Dorothy.
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So kiseki gameplay is a combination of arc the lad and grandia. Any other games they took inspiration in?
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Reminder that CSIII will have a more mature rating.
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>>388613073
>kiseki gameplay is a combination of arc the lad and grandia
The Legend of Heroes games had this type of gameplay before Arc the Lad and Grandia were a thing. Kiseki gameplay is just a continuation of Legend of Heroes 3-5 gameplay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYVPXDWNZd0
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the fuck was that ending?
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>>388615298
Ao gunned down plenty of mooks too.
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>that hourglass
The Sept-Terrion of Time is involved, pst yfw people aren't being brought back from the dead, but just brought back from different timelines. and McBurn actually is alternate timeline future Rean and not just a meme
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It rustles me everytime I replay it.
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>>388612448
No, I hated her because she was garbage and completely insufferable with her stupid mother drama.
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>>388605780
>you and your demonic dad are going to make entire world your bitch
>shit ending
pick one
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>>388616516
So you also have problem with Jusis Elliot and Machias too?
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>>388616516
you do know half the cast is have stupid drama with their respective parent/sibling including rean. how the heck only one getting hate by it.
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>>388602952
Everybody's dead elk. I mean it's nice the world wasn't magically fixed, but still
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>>388612852
>Dorothy

She's the fucking Grandmaster, no memes.
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>>388612852
Machias confirmed evil
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I actually liked the ending cause it made me want to play the sequel right away.

>>388611131
Seeing Anton depressed as fuck about Ricky possibly being dead was sad
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this part is when I basically stopped caring
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>>388619012
That's when I loved the game even more.

Haters gonna hate.
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>>388616516
her mom is way hotter, where's the end where rean romances her and they live out their days building superweapons
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What did she mean by this?
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>>388619012
What, you didn't like it when Rean tapped into the Satsui no Hado?
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>>388619440
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>>388619012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2OBpsUK5PU
AAAAAAAA
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>>388603440
Yakuza games don't have shit endings they just make sure they leave holes so they can make you spend $60 for another game filling it
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Surprised no one posted it.
Game is great but that ending makes me mad unless it meant there will be a sequel
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>>388619012
It will all be worth it in CS3 when they summon Archer Rean to fight McBurn.
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Every Danganronpa
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>>388619012
>get power up
>Unable to control it
>gets slapped around later by Sword Autism's Dad
>next game
>controls it after 20 hours of gameplay
>Get slapped by Crow

Nice power up Coldbab.
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Like 200 hours across two games to resolve a coup detat plot that FC did in one 40 hour game
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>>388625575
Not to mention a normal JRPG would resolve that shit in half it's own length too.
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>>388626028
FC just takes prologue and chapter 1 to beat the diversionary antagonist the Capuas while fighting the ILF who is also used as a diversion by the nobles takes up the entirety of CS1 too
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>>388626164
It makes Erebonia look like complete dumbasses.
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>>388625575
>>388626028
>>388626164
>>388626615
Are you retarded?
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