What's the best way to play Sonic 3 &/or Knuckles?

Either Sonic 3&K or Sonic 3 Complete

Why the fuck would anyone play them separately

with friends

>>388588031
Maybe you only played the games in a gamecube collection and didn't know they were one game.

>>388587858
If you have real hardware and cartridges, Sonic 3 alone and then lock on S&K after clearing Launch Base Act 2.
Otherwise, Sonic 3 Complete.

>>388588218
>The player controlling Tails constantly fucks up and flies you into spikes and enemies

>>388588301
Good thing the internet existed when the GameCube was a thing

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>>388587858
Taxman remake with a Saturn pad

>>388587858
>Sonic 3 up towards the first mid boss for hearing the best song period
>Then S3&K
Really Sonic 3's main appeal is this one. fucking. song. But it's UTTERLY obvious on why it was removed on later reprintings that where done once S&K came out and was disabled when doing S3&K with a new generic track.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9o8RDpzO2E

>>388588735
The new track ain't really all that bad, either, which makes me heartbroken that there isn't a modded S3&K where the Sonic 3 midboss plays for the S3 half and the S&K one for the S&K half. Or at least, from what I've read about Sonic 3 complete, it doesn't have options quite that detailed yet.

>>388587858
Turn off console
no such thing as a good sonic game

>>388588958
I'm pretty sure you can do it with the rom customizer even if that's not an option in the game itself.
Don't quote me on that though.

>>388589319
No, that's now an option in the game, and it's a binary Sonic 3 or S&K choice

http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_Complete#Full_List_of_Changes_and_Options

what's the point of playing anything that isn't Complete?

>>388587858
3 Complete is the best way no contest

>>388587858
Sonic 3 Complete with music set to 'by zone' and Sonic/Tails layouts set to Sonic 3 versions, but Knuckles layouts set to S3&K versions. If you're a Sonic oldfag, that is. If you've never played the games before then you should play the originals. Seperately.

>>388589709
Some people refuse to play ti simply because it's a romhack and not an official sega product, no matter how much it improves the game.

>>388588958
>Or at least, from what I've read about Sonic 3 complete, it doesn't have options quite that detailed yet.
You read wrong. Or whoever wrote what you read is an idiot. The 'music by zone' option does exactly that.

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>>388588518
my saturn controller just came in a few days ago and lemme tell you brother, i want to ejaculate on it.

>>388590070
which model?

>>388590153
2 i believe

>>388590209
Nice, as long as it's not that bulky one that initially came with the Saturn in the US/EU

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>>388590070
Same here man, my adapter's coming in the mail some time today. Just in time

>>388588031
For the final boss of sonic 3 by itself

>>388587858

First time?

Vanilla.

Replaying?

3C if you want.

I do not recommend playing 3C as the first run through since any of the changes would just fly over people's heads.

>>388590601
mine came at the same time

enjoy my man, don't get discouraged if it seems to have dead inputs at first, some of the buttons may need worn in

>>388591215
I'll keep that in mind. What adapter did you go for? I got one that also supports N64 and PS2 since the reviews were good and said it has negligible input lag

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i've started playing for the second time in my life Sonic TH 2 in my phone, i can't belive how much of a fun time im having, this game its stupudly fun and with quality asthetics, its fuckin great.

>>388591417
mayflash
some people say theres input lag, but i havent noticed much, maybe a few miliseconds

>>388589807
I'd play the shit out of it if I could get it on an actual genesis cart. I know people have made them but I couldn't find any sellers that were still producing them.

>>388591764
You can even do it yourself

>>388591764
https://retrogamerandbackups.com/products/sonic-complete

>>388587858
S3C with the original sonic 3 music for Michael jackson beep boops

Is there a difference between 3 and S&K in terms of overall quality?

>>388587858
Complete

This isn't a suggestion. It's the only way.

>>388588301
S3&K is an unlockable in that very collection. So is Knuckles in Sonic 2.

Mushroom Valley > Hill

>>388588735
They're both good.

>>388592614
Say what you will about Sonic Jam, but at least they had the decency to not lock S3&K and KIS2 at the start

>>388588735
Sonic 3 Complete lets you restore the Sonic 3 Knuckles/Miniboss theme.

>>388588735
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDr0oy2Tnr8
>Generic
Gonna have to disagree with you there, shit's gud

>>388590601
>>388590070
Which adapter did you order?

>>388590731
But that's in S3C

>>388591438
you need to look at footage of the special zones from the original version to appreciate what Whitehead did. They became way more tolerable.

>>388591882
Neat, thanks anon

>>388592440
sonic 3 feels more complete as a package
s&k has larger zones

>>388592440
That's a difficult question. I'd say I overall prefer Sonic 3, although I'd be hard pressed to come up with reasons why. I think part of it is that I just prefer the aesthetics presented in the Sonic 3 stages, a lot of the &Knuckles zones seem like they take place in claustrophobic indoors spaces like Flying Battery, Sandopolis, Lava Reef and Death Egg. The level design is still mostly same old solid stuff, though. The &Knuckles zones even have a bit of a difficulty ramp up since it's the latter half of the whole of S3&K.

Nice Loss

>>388592771
A Mayflash Saturn/PS2/N64 adapter. Other anon went for the same brand but Saturn only.

>>388589885
This

As an added bonus, it also affects the invincibility themes, so you can have it as if Super Sonic and Hyper Sonic have their own specific themes.

>used to rush through 3&K like nobody's business
>almost time over at Death Egg act 2 boss with one life left

I tell you lads, being out of practice in what used to be your best game skill wise is awful

>>388593653
Death Egg zone is fucking great

>>388593653
I like that Mania stops the timer in fights it deems to be too long (Eggman's baby carrier, Puyo boss, Egg Reverie)

Of course Sonic is so glitchy that sometimes the Time Over was actually needed (Happened to me in Carnival Night once when I somehow got stuck in a wall and I had to let the timer run out)

https://youtu.be/Pux2TNnKuw4