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Is RDM too easy or is SMN too complicated? Is BLM the happy medium?
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RDM has a low skill floor and skill ceiling
SMN has a higher skill floor but a low ceiling
BLM has a low skill floor but the highest ceiling of them
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>>388561308
They all felt braindead to me compared to the bard and melee jobs
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RDM is the more fun than any of them, feels the best to play, and it's also the most boring. Only Yoshi-P can accomplish such an oxymoronic class.
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>>388561769
BRD is even more braindead. Just mash your procs. If you got a proper gaming keyboard you can setup a external macro to automatically mash for you when turned on.
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smn isn't complicated, it's just stupid

>whoops guess we can't get ramuh egi
>here fight sephirot egi during your class quest
>you want to summon sephirot egi? don't be greedy now
>don't worry here's a bahamut summon
>oh sorry you can only have it out for 5 seconds ;) lol
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>>388561531
>SMN has a higher skill floor but a low ceiling
>BLM has a low skill floor but the highest ceiling of them

???

BLM isn't hard at all. The only complication is learning in each encounter when you can full turret.

SMN is multi-tasking the job. It's miles more difficult than BLM and you don't even get a good payoff like Foul.

RDM is on point though.
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>>388561308
SMN and SCH are too shit.

Regardless of any other comparison, the classes are just shit.
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>>388561769
this is why I play MNK
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We have an entire general board for this kind of discussion.

That being said, Squeenix even said they haven't been balancing around difficulty of rotations and just fucking realized that classes that are harder to play should have some payoff for it.
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>>388562387
>We have an entire general board for this kind of discussion.
We do?
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>>388561308
i unsubbed cause i got other things to focus on, but when are the new omega bosses coming out? i wanna know what they are and go bonkers for the music.
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>>388562387
>We have an entire general board

>implying /vg/ actually talks about the game and aren't just a bunch of prison-gays parading their slut characters
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>>388562170
Agreed. Everything related to ARC is a raging dumpster fire.
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>>388562672
Worst part is, I'm pretty sure it is intentional, because YoshiP hates pet classes.
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>>388562387
I've been to the vg thread. It's 98% off topic inner circle drama. Not even worth the bandwidth to open the thread.
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>>388562580

4-5 months. Ivalice is in 1-2 months
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>>388562831
I really hate the FFTA/12 Ivalice...
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wens 4.1
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>>388562387
>please post on this board being treated as /soc/ by a bunch of mentally ill faggots and trannies
no
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>>388562138
BLM is the hardest job to fully optimize.
SMN is not difficult at all to optimize, but it does punish you for fucking up.
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>>388563034
FUCKING THIS WHERE IS 4.1
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>>388563034
>>388563262
October.
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>SMN
>complicated
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>>388561308
RDM is incredibly simple and more mobile than the other casters. If anyone actually thinks that RDM is complicated they are not very smart people.
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>tfw expected AST to be complicated and difficult
Only for the first few hours. SCH is harder, but maybe that's just because it's a shit job at the moment
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>Stormblood Orchestrion roll
It's not the same without a punching sound.
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>>388563979
There's nothing remotely complicated about any of the healers now, not like it was before with cleric stance but at least healers had a more active role, especially SCH, before they were made into the unfun shit they are now.
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>>388563310
Late September according to 2ch leaks
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Ishgard housing is in 4.1 right?
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Do we know what's going to be in the patch today(?)
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>>388564550
Better be.
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>>388562138
You're literally playing FFXIV.
None of this shit is remotely difficult.
Fucking casual faggots on /v/
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>>388563460
This. Literally the only thing you can possibly consider 'skilled' to do on Rdm is to pull two Enchanted Redoublements inside of a single Embolden's buff. Even then that's not that hard to do if you know how to math on the fly.
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>>388564550
>2ch leaks
>using 2ch as a reliable source
Oh you sweet summer child.
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>>388562774
aw fuck and i wanted to try this game but pet classes are my favourite
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>>388564612
H A H A
A H A H
H A H A
A H A H
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>>388564663
PvP balancing is in it but we don't know what else, if anything at all. 4.1 preview this Saturday though
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>>388564832
I ASKED YOU A QUESTION NOW FUCKING ANSWER ME
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>there are people that think drg is hard
>b-but blood of the dragon
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>>388564812
SCH used to be the strong as fuck prior to 4.0. It's not like it's always been shit
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>>388564612
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>>388564550
>2ch leaks
im curious
what else did they "leak"
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>>388564612
>tfw can't move in with Aymeric
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>Some faggot wants them to nerd royal menagerie 'because people with disabilities may not be able to clear it'
>MFW you can literally carry 5 disabled people through it
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>>388564934

It's still really strong these days, it just has to be played a bit differently.
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I finally bit the bullet and started leveling my gathering and crafting classes.
How big of a mistake is this?
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>>388565345
>mfw Aymeric is now irrelevant outside of showing up for ten seconds whenever the alliance meets up
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>>388565367
>tfw can't Deployment Tactics instantly after Adloquium
>tfw can't Bane instantly after Bio 2
I have to wait a split second after casting them or they won't spread. Is it a ping thing or is there a delay between popping the spell and it hitting the target?
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>>388561531
>BLM is hard
>When it push the same button 40% of the time
lol
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i bought the game cause end game content looked cool. levelling a blm but people can say its punishing doing endgame shit on blm without knowing the fights well enough. how fucked am i?
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>Tfw SAM will get nerfed because of the crying shitters
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>NI: It’s not deliberately meant to clearly indicate that there is a romantic feeling between Lyse and the player character, but the Warrior of Light is a significant figure within the realm at this point in the narrative, and the allies’ bond has become very strong.

>In Final Fantasy XIV the writers cannot determine the character’s age or sex, so I do want there to be room for imagination. Perhaps Lyse does feel something that’s more than friendship? It’s good to leave it to the imagination.
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>>388565890
You probably won't even make it to end game. Come back when you've at least completed Heavensward or bought a jump potion.
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>>388565348
>1 tank and healer carried everyone

needs a ~10min enrage timer desu
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>>388565890
It's fine. Think of it as making the job more interesting. You won't regret BLM once you start dropping huge dps
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>NY: You mentioned Korea, and that sort of activity is indeed rooted in Korean games, and there is a reason why that culture is brewing. In Korea, a game’s performance is judged on how long players are logged in from internet cafes. High traffic in that direction helps a game being recognized as performing well, so players cannot be allowed to run out of things to do, they always have something to do and be logged in, even if it’s botting. That’s the foundation of how that trend started.

Are Koreans literal bots?
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Does anyone know when the server will get back East coast time?
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>>388565348

>muh disabilities

Fuck these fucking people. I've seen people play fighting games with their feet because they ain't got no hands. Literally no excuse.
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>>388565603
>Lyse is going to be the Aymeric of SB
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>>388566490

EST is PST+3 hours

so 6am
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>>388566685
Thanks senpai
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>>388566620
Please no
I really hated her
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>>388566620
Really hoping her rebel scum get blown the fuck out for the next 3-4 patches, if not the rest of the xpac.

The anal raping they got near the start was not nearly enough, and was barely come-uppance for putting their SECRET BASE at the foot of a statue visible for miles around.
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>>388566620
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Only three hours left until maintenance. I hope you've completed your weeklies.
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>>388565990
At least they recognized that Alisaie was also written that way to a degree. That means we have an out away from Lyse.
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>>388567137
>Taking this as an invitation, Alisaie gave vent to her frustration. "Isn't that the truth! If he's not cheating death with his fellow adventurers, you can be sure he's off helping the beast tribes, or collecting tomestones, or regaling the children of Idyllshire with the tales of his exploits, or delivering something to someone. Honestly, I don't think he sleeps."

>Nonplussed by her sudden flash of emotion, Y'shtola and Lyse glanced at one another before bursting out laughing. Alisaie glared at them, her face a picture of indignation.

>"Forgive us," said Y'shtola with a twinkle in her eye. "We are but impressed by how closely you follow your hero's every act."

Alisaie is cute. CUTE!
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4.1 will be the big housing update with adding the not-Japan houses? Will they also add new furnishings? The lack of Ala Mhigo stuff makes me sad.
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>>388567330
Most likely. Every big patch adds a few.
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>>388566620
>We go on a dinner date with her
NO PLEASE NO. I WISH TO GO TO A BAR WITH HIEN AND GOSETSU
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Anyone on Chaos up for something before we get deleted?
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>>388566954
Hilda is awfully cute
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>sell item on market that only has one other competitor
>he price matches
>check one day
>he raises his price
>raise mine to match
>he raises his
>items keep selling
>we have unspoken agreement to price gouge the fuck out of this item
>making loads of money
>suddenly no one is buying at all
>realize in the history it was a single person buying them out for the past 20 purchases

FUCK now i have to start slapping up different items
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>Person is new to fight
>Okay, whatever, they want to do it blin-
>"What should I do?"

Read a fucking guide before even popping in if you want to be handheld.
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>>388563140
>>388561531

SMN is far harder to optimize than BLM. You don't know what you're talking about.

Manually using all your pet skills makes SMN harder than BLM on its own, and that's just one part of optimization.
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>>388567257
>no qt Alisaie Favour Candidate to nurse back to health after getting eyehaxed half to death
Feels bad friends.
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>>388567257
>Alisaie has a crush on the WoL
I want to mess with Alisaie!
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>>388562170
>>388562774
>>388564812

The pet classes are not shit, they are just too hard to play for most of the casuals that make up the playerbase. Case in point: The poster who doesn't even know the abbreviation for the class.
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>>388567257

>FFXIV's fanfiction doesn't pass the Bechdel test

Of course.
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>>388568750
It's okay, just change it to a female WoL and it'll pass.
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>>388568527
I'd like to finish with her, if you get my drift.
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>Getting two comms as nin in ranked pvp
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>>388568840
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>HW story > SB story
>HW dungeons > SB dungeons
>Gordias > Deltascape
>Ishgard >>> Ala Mhigo
>Idyllshire >>>>>> Rhalgr's Reach
Fuck this expansion desu.
At least there's no way the next one could be worse.
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>>388568750
>citing the Bechdel test like it's relevant
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>get home
>8 hour maintenance in like 2.5 hours
>lose all urge to do anything
>had planned to get a ton of crafting shit done tonight

what the fuck

why does it start so early
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>>388568517
>manually using your pet skills
fucking why, each time you press your pet skills there's latency. having them do it auto is better.
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>>388565675

I could've sworn the Bane/bio thing worked before 4.0.

>>388566620

No! Give back Yda. I don't know what happened when she took off the mask, but Lyse and Yda are so different, they might as well be two different people. Someone as dumb as Yda should not have led an entire resistance.
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>>388569169
You're right non every account, except Gordias was leagues worse than Deltascape.
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>>388568675
Lily is so slow and dumb
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>>388569180
remember that it's like 7AM in japan right now
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>>388569169
>HW dungeons > SB dungeons
That's simply not true, or you are one crazy weirdo.

HW leveling dungeons made me sleep.
SB leveling dungeons were neat.
HW early 60 dungeons were horrible outside Fractal.
SB early 70 dungeons are very solid so far.
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>>388569221
I don't know. It's pretty annoying when I hit Bane instantly the way I hit Bio 2 straight after Miasma and it doesn't spread
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>>388569216
This is as lazy bait as "why should healers do any dps"
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>>388569216

And that is why you are a shitter and why SMN is the hardest caster to play.

You will NEVER be a good or even passable SMN with your pet on auto.
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>>388569180
>tfw maintenance ends just when I get home from work
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>>388569169
>Ishgard >>> Ala Mhigo
You mean Kugane right?
Because if you want to compare the new cities, Kugane is on part with Ishgard in term of atmosphere.
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>>388563460
SMN is vastly more mobile than RDM and this is a horribly widespread meme.

RDM has to manually cast for 1.5s every 5s.

SMN does not have to manually cast.
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This again? Remember to always report stormshit generals this belongs in /vg/. Everyone is discussing gameplay and a little erp in there so there's no reason to spam /v/ with this shit game.
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Should I bother with materia? Does it make that much of a difference or can I just get away with using V materia to save some money
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>>388569169
>HW dungeons > SB dungeons
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>>388569820
This is a good time to start leveling your tank and do the leveling roulette to get crack clusters.
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As much as i hate jumping on MrHappy's bandwagon i have to agree with him that the first supersavage encounter should be Twintania. It would be really cool since i belive it's a very iconic fight for this game.
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>>388569403
>he slept through FILTHY RATS
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>>388569960
I already got a tank at 70 so I might just do that. It's kind of boring though
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Any suggestion for making gil? I have all my jobs at 70 for crafting and gathering, but I'm not melded out and I don't have enough gil to buy the materia to meld my gear.
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>>388570146
Nah, I'll admit The Vault is the exception for HW.
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>>388570056
That's idiotic, as it leads to the mandatory inclusion of Bahamut as the next super savage, and then who the fuck is the last? Nael already has one, so fucking phoenix?
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>>388570056
>Queue T5 on the DF like 20 times
>only beat it 4
I loved every second of it, though. Would queue and get wiped again.
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>>388569820
It does make a considerable difference. At +40 stats per materia VI it's a potential 760 stat gain.
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>>388570165
It is. Welcome to end game grinding.
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>>388570146
Only good dungeon at HW launch
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>>388570186
Farm cracked clusters.
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>>388569810
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Post yfw the glam update they're talking about lets you glam any item in the same tier (plate/leather/cloth) regardless of class requirements.
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>>388570269
Is it worth putting materia on my i320 pieces or should I just do it for my creation and eventually savage stuff?
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>>388570305
>only
Nah, the pre-Singularity Reactor one was pretty fun too.
>mfw I went in blind as a tank on those orbs
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>>388570056
I think that would be really lazy, it should be a brand new fight.
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>>388570401
Yeah, it's worth it especially if you have a tank at 70. Just don't be lazy with your hunts and you can get a lot of cracked clusters without much effort.
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>>388570338
Does nothing from gathering sell?
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>>388570592
It's already confirmed to be an old fight.
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>>388570687
Thanks, last question but do I bother with that overmelding stuff or is it too much effort for the reward
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>>388571057
Can't overmeld combat gear.
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>>388569171

C'mon you get Raubahn, Pipin and Aymeric sitting around and you know they'd be talking about how the war was going and how things would be moving forward without a lick of talk about women.
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>>388571154

you can if it's crafted
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>>388571154
Oh okay, less to worry about. I'll look up what kind of materia I want to dump onto my stuff then

Cheers
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>>388571154
You can with the crafted i320 stuff
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>>388570783
Source? I thought they'd confirmed the opposite
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>>388569657
This again? Remember that the smug anime avatar fag is a /ffxivg/ poster that talks about how small his dick is and wants people to bully him
He tries to get these deleted in the hope that we will go /vg/ so he has more people to show his cat to
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>>388571394
Famitsu interview that came out today
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>>388569169
Literally everything wrong. Idyllshire is a shit tier city with the worst fucking music in a game with an amazing OST.
And fuck those goblins.
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>>388570386
No one shares my hope?

Oh...
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>>388571764
Moogle genocide when
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>>388571764
I share it, solely because I want more helmet options for DRG. I want more full helms instead of circlets, tiaras, crowns and open faced masks.
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>get Shinryu in Trial Roulette
>people fuck up but it's over and done without a wipe
>get fucking Leviathan in Trial Roulette
>people fuck up the shield ten fucking times in a row
H O W
O
W
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Reminder to let the threads die when the server goes down and not to make a new one until patch notes are up
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>>388568517
>>388569418

Lol, no. You've had to do pet actions since forever ago, what makes it hard now. Seriously, now that your class isn't 100% braindead doesn't mean its hard now.
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>>388572043
Good luck. Everyone knows when the server goes down this place goes full /xivg/ and everyone spams their characters like no tomorrow.
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>>388571512
── Dimensional Narrow Omega Zero Type: Will the contents of ultrahigh difficulty content beyond Delta be announced at the next producer letter LIVE?

I am planning to announce Yoshida .

── More than that ... now?

I can not say Yoshida (laugh). What I can talk about is "Please do not go at half-hearted resolution." Moreover, there are also no particular scenarios where something is clarified by playing it ... ....

Ishikawa I hope you only challenge those who want to enjoy the battle.

Yoshida Even if we are distressed, we are not responsible, so please stop visiting by a picnic mood (bitter smile).

- It is content that should be challenged only by the person "I am!

Yoshida If you feel it is too difficult, you may as well refrain from it.


I know that's a shit translation (it's just google's), but I can't see them saying it's a souped up old fight anywhere.
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>>388572043
That's idiotic. Since the game will be down people will be here to talk about it. If anything it makes more sense the other way around.
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>>388564550
Crossing fingers it doesn't leave people as salty as 3.1 did.
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>>388572143
You mean /vg/ comes here, so don't be foolish and don't make a thread
>>388572203
Youre the idiot of you haven't learned how things in the threads go whenever the servers are down
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>>388571764
I do, but considering how fucking obstinate they are about "cohesion" I would doubt it. I would fucking love to be able to use shit like the craftable valerian fusilier ranged shirt on other jobs.
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>>388572516
I will make a thread just to spite you.
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>>388572697
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>>388566620
I like Lyse though.

She may have bumbled around throughout Stormblood, but it was still pretty cute how she tried her best and confided in us a lot of the time.
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>>388570783
This is absolutely not confirmed, you fucking nigger.
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>>388572034
DPS pushes Levi too fast now. Same deal with King Mog
>Memento Moogle kills the raid because the tank was doing more DPS to the king than the DPS were to the moogles
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Lakshmi is cute CUTE
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>queue into satasha (hard) as healer
>SAM and RDM, figure we'll melt everything
>why am I running out of mana during these pulls
>realize I haven't seen a single scatter from RDM
>SAM just keeps using his 3 sen ability
>realize they're both in the gear that you get as soon as you get the class
Kind of made me wish I was one of those fags that parse everything, I'm pretty sure I outdamaged both of them combined at some points just by spamming holy.
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>>388574140
Wish EX wasn't such a boring fight.
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>>388571684
>Literally everything wrong
Most of it is debatable but if you unironically liked SB's MSQ more than HW's you have serious brain problems.
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>>388574165
>expecting people to actually have skills at fucking sastasha
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>>388574140
Mad her ex is more of a drag to just whack through since she practically does nothing and has a mountain of hp

Meanwhile on susano
>MAAAAKE WAAAAY KAKAKKAA
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>>388574165
>one of those fags that parse everything
If you aren't parsing and trying to optimize, what the fuck are you doing at max level?
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>Shinryu EX
Shitters already complain about the normal fight
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TO THEIR TRESPASS
WE ARE WITNESS
HERE TO PASS THIS
FINAL SENTENCE
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>>388571925
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>>388574571
NO FORGIVENESS
NO DELIVERANCE
ONLY JUSTICE
ONLY VENGEANCE
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>>388574397
Sometimes I like to hope that "use AOE's when the tank has over half a dozen mobs on him" isn't too much to expect.
>>388574471
>parsing roulettes
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>>388572590
I hate that they keep talking all that shit about cohesion as if armor looks matter, but they still haven't put tail armor back in, even though they added an entire new race of tailed creatures. As If anyone can take a plate armor set seriously with a tail poking out of it.
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>>388574692
WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLS
UN BEEEEEEND IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING
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>>388574762
>parsing roulettes
Nigga not even him but the parse is just on at all times. It is part of my UI.
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>>388574762
my friend always keeps the parser up to compete and improve. I dont find dpsing fun unless I'm trying to be top
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>>388574571
>>388574692
>>388574771
GOOD KING MOGGLE MOG
GOOD KING MOG
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>everyone says RDM is easy
>they're all bad at it
lol
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>>388574571
>>388574692
>>388574771
GUIDE US O MIGHTY FURY
GUIDE US TO VICTORYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>388575075
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>>388575201
Nope, it's ruined. Moggle mog is stuck in my head now.
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>Needed one more point to rank up in ranked feast
>queue isnt popping anymore
Wake up chaos..
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>>388575193
How are we defining bad?
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>>388563979
Theres really nothing hard about the healers atm because they butchered their DPS rotation. They are all more or less equally difficult. SCH just feels like shit in dungeons because of its noticeably lower healing output if you're coming from WHM or AST.

While AST isn't all that overly complicated its fucking clip city with its Drawing, which gives the illusion of difficulty when in reality AST just can't keep up a good dps rotation.
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>>388575394
LEVIATHAN LEVIATHAN
ENDLESS
LEVIATHAN LEVIATHAN
SEND US
LEVIATHAN LEVIATHAN
BREATHLESS
LEVIATHAN LEVIATHAN
DEATHLESS
LEVIATHAN LEVIATHAN
RESTLESS
LEVIATHAN LEVIATHAN
TEST US
LEVIATHAN LEVIATHAN
TEND US
LEVIATHAN LEVIATHAN
MEND US!
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>This morning
>Join a clear party for O3S because I was bored and didn't mind helping out
>Seems to be a FC run
>DPS are me on MNK, one SAM, one BLM and a BRD
>The BRD keep on fucking up and die on every mechanics
>Don't even reach 2k5 DPS anyway
>Don't say anything and just keep on going
>Get hit by imp during the Apanda phase
>They don't have enough DPS to kill it and goes in enrage and we wipe
>Suddenly the PLD explode on me, saying that its my fault if we wiped that I do no DPS...etc
>Mfw I'm doing 4k4 DPS and I'm first while there's a SAM and a BLM in the party and that was my only fuck up since we started
>Don't reply
>They kick me anyway
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>>388569630
>SMN does not have to manually cast.
Except when you spam ruin 3 in dwt or have to manually reapply your dots after summoning bahamut for your opener
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>>388575786
SAY MY NAME
SAY MY NAME!
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>>388575805
2k5 DPS means 2005 DPS
2.5k DPS means 2500 DPS
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>>388562387


>>388562387
>We have an entire general board for this kind of discussion.
/vg/ just place for people who share screenshot of there sult mogs and there faggotry discussions.

When start it this game all there advice was about how to make character looks like a HIV positive, fucking weebs.
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>>388575923
MOGGLE MOG
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>>388575923
BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER (UNDER THE WEIGHT)
BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER (UNDER THE WEIGHT)
BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER (UNDER THE WEIGHT)
BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER (IN HELL I WAIT)
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>>388575923
SEEKING THE PEACE OF REASON
SHEEP IN A PEACELESS SEASON
REASON TO KEEP BELIEVING
WAKING THE BEAST WHO'S SLEEPING
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>>388569254
Found the shitter who didn't get past a3s. Gordias savage was the most fun the game had ever been and it will never be this fun again if creator and delta is anything to go by
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>>388576097
STORM OF BLOOOOD
BORN FROM BLOOOOD
OF OUR FALLEN BROTHEEERRRRRRRRRRRRS
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So, from the trailer, would it be right to take that SB's MSQ is best experienced as a MNK?
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Why do midlanders pretend to be pure when we all know they are the biggest sluts around
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>>388576450
Everything is
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>>388574762

>parsing roulettes

How else will you know who to give a comm to?
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>>388576335
BEYOND MAJESTIC MOUNTAINS
ACROSS THE EMERALD DALE
ON MARCH THE IVORY STANDARD
UNITED WE PREVAIL
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>>388576481
Middies have the sensibility to only be sluts for one man. That whore Scion chick is the exception that proves the rule. c@s meanwhile are 100% pure pump and dump, and Lalas will trade you in when they find a model they like better. I shouldn't even need to explain trannies to you, and Highlanders have been turned into 100% Pure Grade-AAA Garlean Sows. Only Elezens and Middies have even the faintest inkling of being pure.
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>>388576493
Does it actually affect anything like dialogue though?
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>>388576525
Jeez, people give out comms? I barely remember to do 3 a week for the bonus
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>>388576113
YOUR WORLDS A FANTASY YOUVE FAILED THE TEST
EVER FORGING ALL NEW FALLACIES CREATING MORE MESS
DIRECTLY THROUGH THIS BLEAK MACHINE WITH ALL OF THE REST
DC DYING DYING ELECTRICITY
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>>388576717
No, the only thing that actually affects MSQ dialogue is being a Xaela
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>>388576717
No, but being healer yes
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What's the most comfy job in this game?
No crafters/gatherers.
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>>388576617
AND THE WAR IT RAGES ON
THE STORM IT RAGES ON
THE BOLD EVER FIGHT ON
THEIR LIVES ECHO IN SONG!
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>>388569403
I can kind lean HB leveling dungeons being better than SB leveling.

Out of the SB ones, Doma Castle is the only one I really like, where as with Heavensward I dug the Dusk Vigil, the Aery, and SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED.

Sirensong is an okay callback to the Ship Graveyard but that and Shisui both kind of fall flat for me. Bardam's is a snoozefest and Castrum Abania suffers from being like every other Castrum we've gone into.
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>>388577004
MNK with sharlayan pankratiast robes.
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I started playing a week ago and I just finished the quest to beat Ramuh. Is any of the stuff like the GCs, tomestones, beasttribe rep remotely relevant at max level or should I focus on hitting max level?
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>>388577257
>The Aery
>liking a shit dungeon that literally gives you only 10% more exp than the dungeon before it with gates every 2 inches
no
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>>388577136
It's actually "wageth on" and "rageth on".
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>>388577136
Two lives!
Two swords!
Given in to shadowed whispers, wicked words

Pray tell me true!
Doth love the dawn!
A rival's cry, for the oaths that spur her onward!

Your time is come
A choice bestown
Tonight, for unsung sins atone

This night you need not walk alone
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>>388568579
>crush
It's hardly only that. There was her outburst at the diner in the fanfic, the RDM trainer outright admittedly she half-worships the ground you walk on, she practically spilt her soul to you in Limsa and she seemed all too eager to tell her brother to piss off and that she was riding the WoL train this time around. She'd probably be all over the Blade of Light if she was given half the chance. Good thing too; gotta get her before she assumes natural elezen adult form.
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>uncap fps
>fps shoots to like 600 and gpu starts screaming
>fuck fine ill cap it
>cap it at 60
>constantly dips to 50 all the time

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>388577853
Gook software engineering please look forward to understanding.
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>>388571213
Raubahn, Pipin, and Aymeric have done things to advance the plot while Y'shtola and Lyse have not, so if Alisaie started talking about advancing the plot they'd just give her a weird look
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>>388577415
The only relevant content right now is Stormblood's. I think everything below level 70 is now irrelevant
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>>388577853
>cap it at 85
>now if it dips 10fps you will barely notice

Wow so hard.
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>>388577529
To each his own: I kind of liked the whole notion of infiltrating a dragon's den to kill Nidhogg the first time, that and Sohm Al just felt kind of boring to me.
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>>388578069
thinking is difficult to the average xiv player
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>>388577853
My RX460 did something like that with the capping. It was cause I played it in borderless windows. When I played it in full screen, the in game FPS limiter would work correctly. Too bad the AMD FPS limiter never worked. Oh, but the opening cinematic is capped at like 15FPS for some reason.
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>>388577415
Tomestones are useful since having a full set of augmented ironworks/shire gear at the end of ARR/HW will last you a good 5-6 levels into the next expansion before they get significantly outclassed. Most other things you don't have to worry about too much.
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>>388578140
The Nidhogg fight was okay but the dungeon itself is complete fucking garbage. Worse than Bardam's by far and Bardam's is the worst of the SB dungeons. They both have the same problem though - low enemy count, so you get no exp, but every enemy hits like a truck, so even if you big pull the healer has less time to DPS and shit still takes way longer.
Sohm Al is pretty shit but it at least gives you good EXP.
I'd say The Vault is the only HW dungeon that's better than its SB equivalent. Doma Castle is a bit unbalanced and the music is unfitting.
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>>388564887
Never ever.
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why oh why oh why cant WAR's Rage spenders be off GCD? I don't care if they have to tweak the numbers a bit to balance it, the class would just flow so much more fucking nicely as a result
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FORTY MINUTES LEFT
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>join duty
>preformed group is having their conversation in /p the entire run
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>>388578759
Until what? 4.1?
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>>388572838
>I like Lyse though.
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>>388578720
WAR's main gauge ability is Upheaval, which is oGCD.
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>>388566620
>>388572838
She can have ala mhigo and their praise. The less I have to deal with those retards the better.
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>>388578845
what happened to muh fell cleave?
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>>388578845
Inner Beast? FELL CLEAVE?
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Is there any point in this skill during boss fights?
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>>388578938
It won't be long til another mhigger chimp out and either another civil war or they attack the alliance
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>>388577618
Alisaie is prime material for wifing
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>>388579035
phase changes to prevent losing enochian
when you can't attack but still have to keep umbral
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>>388579059
Exactly, better to let her deal with their bullshit while I go do literally anything else.
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>>388578550
>Bardam's is the worst of the SB dungeons
No, just no
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>o3s pub
>tank refuses to leave dps stance
>keeps fucking losing aggro on the adds and getting everyone fucking cleaved or swatted by panda or whatever
>"dps you have to use emnity moves ok its your fault"
>keeps fucking dieing during heavy raid damage
>"uh healers i keep dieing to autos"
>this continues over and over for two hours
>tell him he's trash
>"lmao coming from a 50th percentile dps why your opinion even matter"
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>>388578969
>>388578991
Fell Cleave should only be used in Berserk. Inner Release doesn't cost gauge.
Upheaval and Onsalught should be used as they come off cooldown, and are both oGCD.
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>tfw just started the 3.3 quests and bored out of my fucking mind
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>>388579210
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>>388579193
>"dps you have to use emnity moves ok its your fault"
>keeps fucking dieing during heavy raid damage
>"uh healers i keep dieing to autos"
These are 100% valid complaints. Why aren't they using their aggro reduction? Why are the healers not healing up auto damage?
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So since Lyse is hanging with the Ala Mhigans, whose left on the main Scions?

We got Urianger, Alphy and his sister, Tataru, Thancred, Y'shtola and the WoL.

Were running low on faces for the Scions.
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>>388579035
if you're a shitter and mess up your movement and need to quickly save your umbral
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>>388579401
All we need is Hoary, his bf and Arenvald
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>>388579210
>Onslaught should be used as they come off cooldown
Don't we end up with less than 100 beast gauge by the time berserk's CD is up if we use onslaught as they come off cooldown?
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>>388579064
>wanting a barely pubescent child as a wife
Only your dick wants that. She's a hot head and inept. She'd never be a good mother or wife.
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>>388579393
because even if you use emnity reduction on the dragon add, it wont be up again in time for the panda add
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>log in
>hello we'll be doing maintenance in THIRTY FUCKING MINUTES RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF YOUR EVENING

fuck SE honestly, holy fucking shit are you kidding me?
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>>388579401
Wonder Twins are going to become the main show I think. Urianger is going to sit in the waking sands so you can turn in 3 expansions old quests. Thancred is a b-lister now.
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>>388579393
>use tank stance
>can suddenly hold aggro and take less damage
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>>388579508
By off cooldown I meant off cooldown until you can match it's cooldown with Berserk. So if there's 15 sec until Berserk is off cooldown, throw in an Onslaught, and it'll be off cooldown by the time you can use it in Berserk. You'll easily make it to 100 gauge.
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Don't mind me just being the best glamour set in the game.
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>>388579401
>Tataru
Nah, she's staying in Japan because she's a popular whore there
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GLAMOR SAVED TO GEARSLOTS RATHER THAN GEAR

W H E N
H
E
N
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So say thunder is about to fall off while I am in fire but I have a thunder proc. Do I sacrifice one fire IV to get the proc in or let the proc run out and reapply during ice?
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>>388579672
>maintenance notice gets posted literally 24 hours ago
>wtf how was I supposed to know
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>>388579717
>use tank stance
>be grey shitter
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>Reset tomorrow
>Another morning having to worry about whether or not pugs are competent enough to get their early o3s clears
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>>388562387
>we

I know I'm not an exemplary human being, but please don't lump me with the scum that visits /xivg/
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>>388579807
Not with that stupid face mask, it needs a proper helmet
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Can someone give me a rough idea of how to play BLM or link a guide or something ? Friend just picked up the game and is playing it but i never have and want to help him a bit

It looks like you just cast Thunder 3 as a dot, then reapply with the proc, cast Fire 1 and use Fire 3 Procs, then Blizzard 3, Blizzard spam to full mana and continue - whilst in Leylines if possible - but i know theres IV spells and stuff like Enochian which i have no idea about
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>>388578550
>Doma Castle is a bit unbalanced and the music is unfitting.
>music unfitting
>hype as fuck music sounding like you are heroically storming the enemy strongehold and liberating a nation
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>>388579908
>he doesnt know how to stance dance
How stupid are you
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>>388579312
Stop, go play other games, come back when you get interested again.

This has been a message from the Director of XIV Yoshida Naoki.
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>>388579705
Thancred is going to become the main villain.
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>>388580048
Sorry virgin tank. I'm here to do more DPS than the bottome 3 shitters combined.
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>>388579717
The tank shouldn't have to neuter their DPS just because their group can't keep up and play optimally.
Obviously they should switch to tank stance if it's clear the group is too bad to clear without it, but as long as everyone is decently geared, this just speaks to DPS, healers, and even the other tank being shit.
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so what's in patch 4.06a?
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>>388580091
THANCRED IS LAHABREA
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>>388579971
>he uses helmet.
Haha faggot.
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>>388580268
hey helmets are cool
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>>388578550
>>388579994
One thing i didn't like was from Doma Castle to Abania to Ala mhigo you're fighting the exact same things, Garelans and their Tech
Most of the rest of the game you're typically not fighting the same stuff several times in a row
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>>388580150
>the tank shouldn't have to go into tank stance when he need to tank a boss as a tank
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>>388580268
>not the thug's mug
For shame, you cancerous lalafel memer.
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>>388580268
>Lalafell
>shit taste
Clockwork
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>>388579829
Never, PS4 limitations, please understand
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Remove SAM
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>>388580350
Well, yes, you are fighting the Empire. They should have had more shinobis and ambushes in there.
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>>388580150

This might be a little more understandable if you're in a good static, but it's a fucking pug group, I'm all for maximizing dps, but when you're raiding with people you've never met you might have to sacrifice a little just so you don't risk getting killed or getting someone else killed. Your dps doesn't mean a thing if you're dying or someone else is dying.
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>>388580150
fuck you
if you aren't mitigating during the final holy of library phase (you literally can't attack there is no downside to doing so) you're fucking trash
its that plain and simple
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>>388565675
This has always been a thing, it's because japs can't write code
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>>388580362
By this logic you probably think healers shouldn't DPS either.
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>>388579986
That's basically it, as far as rough ideas go. Assuming you're leveling up with him it shouldn't be too hard to grasp.
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>>388580546
>thinking you have to be in tank stance to mitigate
This is why you're stuck PUGing shit like O3S. Get educated.
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>>388565675
It's ping related. I used to be able to insta-Bane after my DoTs before the servers moved. Now I can't even do it using a VPN.

I'll usually just try to fit in some other OGCD before I pop Bane, but it still feels like shit.
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How are DRKs doing their big pulls in the dungeons? Do you guys turn off grit anymore? I been playing since SB release and I'm still scared to switch it off during the big pull since I can't use bloodprice and spam DA/AD.
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Why are maintenances so long now, didn't they used to be like half the length of what we've been getting lately
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>>388580483
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>>388581038
Why would you take it off?
Never take off tank stance when doing big pulls. Dropping Grit is for bosses.
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>>388579873
logging on every day

lmfao nerd
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>>388581089
Prease you must take break from game, you'll run out of content
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I have the onion helm from 1.0 CE, where do I get the rest of the onion set?
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>>388581113

Generally it is safer to keep it up, but it depends on the dungeon and pull, some pulls you can get it away with it especially if you can get off big damage with inner release as WAR. Also really depends on what cooldowns you have available.
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>>388581210

i80 dragoon armor from crystal tower
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>>388580074
but I bought Stormblood pre-launch and feel like I should probably get around to actually starting it
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>>388581210
Random quick venture rewards.
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>>388581038
If I have viable mitigation up, I unleash once in grit, TBN if no blood/blood isn't close to 50, then grit off, blood weapon, rotate DAAD and DAQ
The other factor is if the healer is good/reliable.
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>>388581289
It'll still be here when you get back, anon. Promise.
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>>388581210

There's a onion set for dragoons in Labyrinth of the Ancients, good luck getting that. Or you can just work with what you got
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>>388581289
No no, you keep sub. You just go play other games. This is how we design the game. Maybe buy jump potion for class you never play too.
>>
IN TIME YOU SHALL FOLLOW

IN TIME YOU SHALL FOLLOW
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>>388581278
>>388581460
I don't like DRG.

>>388581303
fug, are they bop or can I buy then on the mb?
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>>388580739
>thinking that as long as you aren't at zero health, you're "mitigating"
>thinking that emnity is the party's job not yours, and as long as you get the first hit you're safe
literally lazy tanking
you're asking the whole party to cater to your marginal dps increase
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>>388580726
im not levelling up along side him - i have 4 70's but he's on a different server since he couldn't roll on Cerberus due to it being full and is massively outlevelling the content due to the EXP buffs - so i think it's warping his idea of how to play and i'm trying to figure it out to teach him
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>>388581448
Is that SAO?
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>>388581584
unique and untradeable
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>>388581626
Don't blame him. DPS MAXIMUM is the meta that they designed encounters for. This is just the product of that.
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>>388580608
If you need the healer to dps then you have bad dps in your party as you should never need a healer to do damage unless your dps players are trash
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>>388581725
f u g
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>>388572103

SMN was always one of the hardest jobs to play, now it's THE hardest.
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>>388581584
A quick search reveals that this onion stuff was leve rewards back from 1.0, and the only way to get them is from ventures AND they're pretty rare. These are in blue though, I saw there was a red one too but I don't know which is which
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>>388581686
SAO is shit, LH is superior in every way.
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>>388581626
I don't think you know what mitigation means.
Enmity is everybody's job. Just like how DPS is everybody's job, and staying alive is everybody's job.
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>>388581920
I mained SMN in HW it was not one of the hardest to play.
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>>388581943
blue set is from quick ventures. lancer set is from labyrinth of the ancients
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>>388581787
You've never done a raid on release.
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>>388581626
>literally lazy tanking
No, lazy tanking is staying in tank stance and spamming enmity combo. You don't have to worry about silly things like timings and optimal DPS because you're just pressing 1-2-3. In a competent group, you don't ever have to touch tank stance, unfortunately even a base level of competence is an unrealistic expectation.

>all DPS have access to diversion to use in their high damage phases and openers
>all casters have lucid dreaming, and caster DPS have access to both Diversion AND lucid Dreaming
>BRD / MCH have access to Diversion, Tactician, and Refresh
>Tanks have access to shirk

There is no reason the tank should be having enmity issues in DPS stance unless people are being lazy cunts and refuse to use their FREE enmity reduction that does not cut into their rotations in any way shape or form.
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How far can I get in this game using a controller?
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It's my first time maining a DPS in raid but does every DPS have as many opener depending of the situations as SAM?
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>>388582112
Diversion is fucking garbage, do your job
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>>388582141
Through 90% of it.
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>>388582141
you can beat the entire game using a controller
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>>388579986
I'm too lazy to type this on my phone, just use the rotation on the console wiki page. Enochian should be up at all times for F4 spam (you'll usually use 3-4 at a time depending on gear and leylines) before refreshing eno with a F1. During your ice phase you also use ice IV for umbral hearts, cast Foul if you have it (keep eno up for 30 seconds and you get a nuke) and refresh lightning. You still use F3/B3 to get in and out of phases and at 70 you don't really use B1

Phoneposting in case this reads badly
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>>388582141
The far end.
Game is perfectly playable in endgame savage raid with a controller.
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>>388582141
Savage raiding. You just need to fiddle with the settings till you're used to what you like.
Expanded hold and WHXB are Godsends.
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>tfw spent the last hours desparately crafting as much as i can to slap on the MB
>realize at this last minute that the game is in maintenance for 8 hours so no one will buy anything anyway
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>>388582112
Diversion works for every dp class but sam. Sam as of this moment generates too much aggro and even with the provoke shirk jerk they can easily get to top of the aggro chain especially in fights like 04s when neo resets aggro every time
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>>388582206
You can pull aggro then and cleave the group, because I'm not switching out of deliverance for some entitled dps.
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So, how do you all set up your hotbars?
at 60 theres so many fucking buttons I have to click shit to weave in oGCDs properly.

Is crossbar any better for button management?
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>>388581626
>Doesn't like smashing kids with the beyblades

shake my dang head
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>>388582249
Whoops, mentioned I was phoneposting twice. Also even with triple cast I still like to keep swiftcast on the back burner either for B3 as an opener or to shit out a F1 to maintain eno while moving
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>>388582250
Playable yes, getting to 99th percentile no
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WHERE ARE MY PATCH NOTES
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>>388582303
>Diversion works for every dp class but sam
What does this even mean? It works perfectly fine.
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>>388582112
>there is no reason the tank should be having emnity issues
how about the fact that diversion is a 120s CD, and that adds in o3s appear faster than that, melees are boned on some of the adds
and BRDs dont even have diversion, the only real move they can use freely for emnity control is tactician, refresh should be used on cooldown and not fucking held just to cater to a brainlet tank
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>>388582353
I find it very manageable with expanded hold and WHXB controls. Helps a lot.
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>>388582414
PREASE UNDERSTANDU
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>>388582206
Diversion is fantastic for everything BUT SAM because it's his only enmity reducing move. For everyone else, it's a good ability because it complements their inherent enmity reducing abilities.

>>388582303
Yeah they really ought to do something about that, because having one way of managing enmity on a class with the highest (BLM might be higher, I forget) personal DPS is retarded.
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inb4 5 potency increase to bio/miasma
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>>388582414
in like 3 hours probably
they usually post them late at night our times
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>>388580325
This
I rarely ever show my characters face anymore, even when I strip naked to pose in public.
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>>388581945
new season never ;_;
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Name a better healing set. Literally been using it since I bought it in 2.0
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>>388579994
To me the music sounded more comical and lighthearted than it should have. It felt like it had the tone Kugane Castle's theme should have and vice-versa.
>>388579182
>gates everywhere
>half as many mobs that hit twice as hard and have twice as much HP
>boring gimmicky bosses aside from the last one
>majority of the dungeon is just walking
>absolute fucking garbage exp; barely gives more than Shisui
At least the dungeon looks nice and has a nice theme and gear design.
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>>388582398
I have median 95 percentile on all Savage content except Neo as both SAM and NIN and I use a controller for everything. If you take the time to customize the cross hotbars for optimal use, it works perfectly.
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Which SMN pet should I use in different types of situations? If the party is majority casters, garuda, if majority physical, garuda?
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Why do people prefer taking Double Attack from Neo in middle when both tank do it(I know you get more LB gauge this way) instead of north when solo tank takes it for increase uptime?
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Is this """""patch""""" even anything significant or no.
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>>388582591
Shisui
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>>388579193
Did you shirk him?
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>>388582591
Plague Doctor
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>>388582591
You look like you drink nothing but bottled water.
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>>388582639
Prepull have ifrit use his shield thing then switch to garuda and only use garuda.
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>>388582112
brd/mch dont have diversion
only 2 lucid/shroud whatever if you dont have to use them for healers, tp is whatever
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>>388582639
You solved it.

>>388582642
Distance based marker, so when it needs to be shared, afaik gotta reduce distance to reduce damage.
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>>388582661
Literally just a minor bug fix but /v/ will bitch about it regardless.
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>Time to play FFXIV!
>Maintenance

Fucking japan time
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>>388582743
Ah yeah, I was thinking of quelling blows. Still, with all of that, NIN being core as fuck, and Shirk there really shouldn't be enmity issues unless people are being stupid.
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>>388582398
yohan godmaz would like a word
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>>388582752
>Distance based marker
Shit, I didn't know that. No wonder it one-shotted me literally the first time I did it even though there were 2 people taking it.
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>>388582492
as a SCH main I would cum
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>>388561308
None of the jobs in this game are hard. It is the easiest mmo on the market to pick up and play, bar none.
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>>388582414
Bloodspiller potency decreased
Holy Spirit potency decreased
Fell Cleave potency decreased
Souleater, Royal Authority, Storm's Path, and Storm's Eye now have the effect "reduced enmity generation"
Miasma initial damage potency increased by 5
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>>388581945

I've only ever seen LH and thought it was total garbage. They dropped super, mega important plot points like hot turds and then forgot about them for entire seasons, and any 'character advancement' or growth was forgotten even quicker so they could keep their anime cliches. Because a character with some depth would be too fucking much to ask for.

So if SAO is somehow worse than this, then my fucking God.
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>>388582832
>Mfw it 5am here
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>>388582718
Everything outside of AF1 is garbo. Plus I like the knickknacks around the robe
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>>388582665
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>>388582981
Locon, there, I saved you fags posts of asking for sauce.
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>>388582353
Use
>1-5, Q E R F Z X C
>ctrl+1-5 Q E R F Z X C
>shift+1-5 Q E R F Z X C
>M4+1-5 Q E R F Z X C
And you should have no issues with running out of hotkeys
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>>388582414
-Herobrine removed
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>>388582918

SMN onry :)
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>>388582996
>mfw Cirina and Azim's lizards are literally more popular than most main SB casts, especially *clenches fist*

All is right.
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>>388583035
I don't think there's anyone left who doesn't know about Locon.
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>>388582950
It is. Put all that shit into it, then add absolutely awful shounen narutard plot.
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>>388582472
Diversion is also the only enmity move on MNK. Ironically both the jobs with the highest overall personal DPS have the shittiest enmity reduction.
>>388582639
Ifrit is always better than Garuda unless all the other DPS are casters
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>>388583128
>:(
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Since we got nothing to do now, what do we know for sure coming to 4.1?
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>>388582414
Literally nothing but PvP changes, don't bother with it.
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>>388583035
>Locon

I'm waiting for him to draw something other than the same character wearing different wigs.
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>>388582141
World firsts were done with controller, only autists that spent way to much on a meme mouse argue otherwise
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>>388583242
no need to be so mad anon
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>>388583241
>DRG can half their enmity every 30 seconds even though they will never catch up with hate to begin with
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>>388582639
>>388582740
>>388582752
Why is /v/ so bad at this game?
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>>388583279
I feel ya, I still find it fappable due to the body form at least.

>>388583186
Never know.
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>>388583268
http://www.dualshockers.com/final-fantasy-xiv-4th-anniversary/
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>>388583373
It's so that they can jump off cliffs more often. But yes, it's annoying that the class that doesn't really need an enmity dump gets one and it's a gap closer in addition to their two other gap closers.
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>>388583241
>Ifrit is always better than Garuda unless all the other DPS are casters
No, contagion before you bahamut is a huge dps increase to you more so than what shitty raidwide dps ifrit gives out
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>>388583403
Kojimemester strikes again.
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>>388583449
Show me your 100th percentile parse with Garuda.
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>>388582414
Here's a summary of the patch notes that are now up:
>nerf damage for classes that do work
>buff hp for the already annoying as shit classes to kill
this is for all just pvp btw
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>>388583445
>in addition to their two other gap closers.
You hardly ever use Spineshatter and Dragonfiredive as gap closeres to begin with because you literally leaks dps every seconds it's on cooldown, even more so with LotD system.
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So are Fem Highlanders for someone that wants stronk womin but without going full tranny with a Roe? I was thinking of buying a fantasia after maintenence
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>>388569221

Pro SCH here. It didn't.
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/2b058731112d9859b50789e65fcc86e77977f3e5http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/2b058731112d9859b50789e65fcc86e77977f3e5http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/2b058731112d9859b50789e65fcc86e77977f3e5

Only PvP adjustments.
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>>388583509
>>388583273
EIGHT HOURS FOR THIS SHIT?
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>>388579064
I want to fuck her brother while she watches.
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/2b058731112d9859b50789e65fcc86e77977f3e5

8 hours for this shit
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http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/2b058731112d9859b50789e65fcc86e77977f3e5

>8 hours.
topu keku
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>>388583504
where's yours?
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PpAuOcKTF0SaGq8G9CWXTWqMsIU3IJxzqXd3LQBPy1E/edit
this was made by a 100th percentile smn and they use garuda
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>melees got cucked even harder in PvP

Literally joggin my noggin.
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>>388583690
>>388583737
>all those damage nerfs to pvp
>increase hp
>decrease healer recasting

what the fuck? are they retarded?
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SMN with pet on autocast is braindead
SMN with pet on manual cast is one of the most technically intensive classes in the game

Cruelly enough, manually positioning/casting your pet only adds like 5% DPS even in the best situation.
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>>388583504
>>388583829
He's right, I'm looking through all the top 5 SMNs on the 5 savage parses and they all use Ifrit
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>>388583856
SAM got nothing but buffs tho
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>>388583598
Femroe is better if you aren't a tremendous waifufaggot. Face 2 and 3 look fine, and they look the best in armor. They also have the best goofy emotes in my opinion.
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>>388583829
All of Eriene's 100th % SMN parses are literally with Ifrit lmao
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>>388583690
>>388583821
>>388583737
>Hate sch so much they're coming after it in PvP too
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Thank god i don't play PvP
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>PvP
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>Give more HP to ranged in PvP, because they weren't annoying enough to begin with
>SAM buffed up the ass
>Ninja slight buff
>MNK cucked hard
>Tanks even harder to kill now

Wheeee
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>>388583975
>she is giving out false information to newbie summoners so they can't compete with her
What a bitch
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>>388582639
Ifrit is always better. Garuda is garbage except for Contagion. The only time Garuda is better is if you have a fight where cleaves and AoE get really crazy and Ifrit will have to be resummoned constantly, and if you have more casters than melee.
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>>388583268
Housing, 24-man raid, Shinryu EX, Super savage, some jobs skills adjustments. That's all atm.
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>>388583591
>You hardly ever use Spineshatter and Dragonfiredive as gap closeres to begin with because you literally leaks dps every seconds it's on cooldown
The same applies to MNK's gap closer. You can still save it for a few seconds if you know a knockback/jump/etc is about to come for a DPS gain. SAM's gap closer is a DPS loss due to costing kenki gauge. NIN's gap closer is on a long cooldown without the enmity effect and they don't have any attack gap closeres. SB literally turned DRG from the hardest melee DPS to the easiest.
>>388583598
Female highlanders also look like trannies, so no.
>>388583829
>this was made by a 100th percentile smn and they use garuda
No they don't.
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/nAFc6rtGMhTDCdRL#fight=22&type=damage-done
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/7MhGAQvmNTFWnVC4#fight=37&type=damage-done
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/W8dwDLBR9F2pqnxA#fight=7&type=damage-done
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/MryBNLRbZj1hQf7D#fight=3&type=damage-done
https://www.fflogs.com/reports/hHwWtFbZ9V6T8j21#fight=73&type=damage-done
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The new pvp is way better than the current pve
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>>388584112
>SAM's gap closer is a DPS loss

Hoo boy that's a funny joke you got there
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So I finally got back into the game after not touching it since creator. Any good summoner guides?
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>>388584126
It's still not very good or fun
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>>388583598
Go with femenine face and minimum height, you dont want people stand at your crotch area, unless you go full tranny
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>>388583737
What the unholy FUCK
>buffs to healing overall
>damage nerfs to classes that actually contribute
>buffs to fucking ranged physical DPS
>2% reduction on the action speed trait
It's official, their balancing teams need to fucking kill themselves, honor fucking demands it.
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>hey what if we give these annoying fucking classes MORE HP
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>>388584112
>The same applies to MNK's gap closer.
Monk gapcloser is on 30 seconds cooldown, so it has better chance to line up with mechanic that requires you to re-position yourself, meanhile both of DRG's are on 60 and 120, hardly comparable.
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>>388582590
Good.

Everything that hasn't been covered is absolute dogshit that the author is clearly pulling out of his ass to try and quickly wrap up the series, so he can go under the radar for good after that tax evasion scam.
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>>388584203
Someone wrote one in a previous thread, he's probably here now so he can repost it.
Real simple stuff.
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>>388584020
Honestly at this point they should disable it until they separate it from SMN in 5.0. The fairy is garbage and has not been changed since 2.0 other than been nerfed to uselessness, literally everything they have can be done better and at less of an MP cost by the other healers (except maybe indom but swift medica/helios is always good enough, who cares about the buff to it)
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>>388584075
When SB first came out people didn't realize Ifrit was a DPS gain. That was a more recent meta change. It has to do with Ifrit getting higher DPS on sic than on obey and eliminating that micromanagement and lag factor is enough to counterbalance the lack of contagion buff for Bahamut, not to mention multiplicative physical damage buff scaling for Trick Attack.
>>388584254
60 and 120 damage gap closers AND a 30-second no DPS loss gap closer that also reduces enmity, vs a 30 second gap closer that needs to be used for damage only.
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>>388584020
SCH is busted in feast right now though
These nerfs are fair
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>>388584245
>bruh what if we like, also reduce melee damage and skill speed
>better yet lets buff healing on top of it
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>>388584203
No. The only one is mathematical autism that's over 20 pages long.
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>>388584245
t. mad MCH
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>>388584126
I do think the changes to PvP from 3.0 to 4.0 definitely breathed some life into it, but at the expense of having to deal with the bots and just general bad players who only do it for EXP and make it harder to win.

13 Shatter matches as Flames this week on Primal, 0 wins. And you have those matches when you have one of the higher kill counts as a PLD.
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>>388584302
>Fairies are bad

Do you even fucking play SCH? I can get through all of O3S without casting a single heal other than Succor or Indom because I know how to use Eos
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>>388584193
Obviously using any gap closer is a DPS gain if you save GCDs with it. However if you don't save a full GCD then yes, it's a DPS loss because it's 2/5 of a Shinten.
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>>388584302
They need to just make it a healer that can heal with dps
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>>388584220
Its more fun than PVE which says a lot how shit FFXIV is
>>
Are you ready for all tank all healer pvp with no one fucking dieing ever
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>>388584430
Noct AST here, I can do the same thing, just replace fairy with Essential Dignity and Indom/Succor with Earthly Star
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>8 hour maintenance
>all for pvp tweaks
T-thanks, YoshiP.
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>forgot arms length was a thing and kept getting pushed by vacuum
I'm not only retarded by also green number retarded, I should do better next week
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>>388584430
Yes it's bad because it's literally a refresh you can control 100% of the time because of AI and there's zero interaction between the player and it, the tether and gauge feel so fucking tacted on like they only thought about it in 1 minute and said "fuck it, this is the new and exciting lv. 70 skill for SCH, much like dissipation.
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>>388584203
use Ifrit on sic.
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>>388584439
>it's a DPS loss because it's 2/5 of a Shinten.
More like 5/6 Shinten actually.
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>>388584560
don't worry they're just hiding the juicy bits of the patch until the servers are up
>>
Will we ever get Salvage in FFXIV?
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>>388584439
It's 2/5 of a Shinten for 100 potency, that's 10 potency per kenki point spent, hardly worse than Shinten's 12 potency per kenki, but you seem to seriously undervalue uptime. It'd be an increase even if it didn't do damage

Do you even play Samurai? Or any melee?

>>388584514
>>388584587
I'm not seeing how either of these points make Whispering Dawn, Covenant & Illumination any less of the absurdly strong healing tools that they are

Sure the gauge is clunky, but you could remove the gauge entirely (or better yet, give SCH a gauge-based mechanic that isn't stupid) and the fairy would still be strong. I'm only suggesting that if you really think Eos is weak, you don't know how to use her very well, she does much of your work for you
>>
>8 hour """maintenance"
>i have to go to work now anyway

AHAHA EAT SHIT NEETS AND POOPSOCKS
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>>388584340
Who discovered this ifrit meta change and where can I go to find out more about smn meta?
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>>388584423
>caring about kills in fucking shatter
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>>388584640
10 is 2/5 of 25. Damage wise yes, it's 5/6 as effective, but that's still a DPS loss unless you save a GCD with it.
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>buffing bard and machinist
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As a BLM main should I continue leveling my AST or are there other DPS that are actually fun
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>>388584759
>I'm a NEET because I play video games at 10 PM

Okay...?
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>>388584508
>when a PLD and WHM camp your base and everyone streams in one at a time to try and kill them but don't and they hold your base for almost 5 minutes
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>>388584752
Did you read my fucking post you stupid fucking moron?
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>>388584845
GO TO BED YOU HAVE WORK TOMORROW
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>>388584560
I can only speak from blizzard point of view, but when maintenance are longer than they should be it usually means they're also adding technical backend shit usually to prepare for a larger upcoming patch.
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>>388582298
What is there to even craft at this point to make gil? The 320 gear isn't worth anything, consumables can take days especially if people keep undercutting, gathering material doesn't sell fast since everyone can just gathering up the items, and glamours don't sell that fast either.
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>>388584897
No I don't

>>388584884
Well, I don't know which post you're referring to because I don't know which individual to whom I responded you happen to be, but I can assure you the answer is yes anyway
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>>388584884
Drink my cockmilk you petulant little child.
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>>388584752
>you don't know how to use her very well, she does much of your work for you
Trust me, I now how great Eos can be. I used to tell people all the time back in Creator how a SCH should barely need to heal outside of microing Eos. But thats almost exclusively because of Rouse+Whipsering Dawn with the occasional pairing with Fey Illumination and Fey Covenant in the right spots. Embrace is shittier than ever which I think is what the original anon was trying to say. They nerfed it to make way for Aetherpact, which is useless trash
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>>388584963
Well, 4.1 is coming.
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>>388584995
The answer is most definitely no because you didn't read the part where I said IT'S A DPS LOSS UNLESS YOU SAVE A GCD you fucking idiot.
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>>388584752
Yes, obviously she saves the SCH a lot of GCDs since they don't have to sit there to cast regen every 20 seconds, but if you gave the her CDs to the scholar as ogcds literally nothing would change either.
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>>388584968

Figure it out for yourself. People telling each other about various markets is what crashes that shit.
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>>388584798
>10 is 2/5 of 25. Damage wise yes, it's 5/6 as effective
>>
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/topics/detail/2b058731112d9859b50789e65fcc86e77977f3e5
>The additional effect has been changed from knockback to stun with a duration of 2 seconds.
Fucking hell, this what I wanted the most on the WAR.

Why the fuck they didn't gave him a stun was beyond me, but I'm glad they finally woke the fuck up
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>>388584819
Play a melee DPS
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>>388584963
Probably shit for 4.06b, since this one is 4.06a.
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>>388584968
I dunno man, i made millions when the patch dropped, so now im stocking on unspoiled materials for the next patch of craftable shit. Atm i just sell levequest items, my 320 crap doesnt sell and the price dropped to crap.
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>>388584203
This but ignore everything about garuda as this was made before people found out ifrit is just plain better
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>>388585073
Gave NIN a shot and wasn't too big on mudras being an accessory to a 1-2-3 rotation, really don't like MNK for similar reasons. What kills me is I love DRG's overall aesthetic but I heard it's also boring and braindead
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Whats the most fun melee DPS now? DRG? SAM?
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>finally get Ruin III
>apparently this is supposed to replace Ruin I completely
>cast it 5 times
>out of mp

Are you fucking kidding me.
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>>388585262
Nin > drg >>>> sam >>>monk
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>>388585059
Yeah the one good thing that came out of this fucking abortion of a patch.
>hey guys, what if we made the classes that can endlessly kite people even harder to kill?
>what if we buffed healing across the board?
>what if we nerfed tons of damaging abilities on melee classes and MELEE CLASSES FUCKING ONLY YOU STUPID NIGGERS I HATE YOU SO SO FUCKING MUCH JESUS CHRIST WHY THE FUCK
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>>388585262
Going off of empirical evidence [read: posts on /v/]: NIN => SAM > MNK => DRG
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>>388585262
SAM
>>388585270
>>apparently this is supposed to replace Ruin I completely
No it isn't.
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Who phat armor SAM here?

I unironically like this chest piece.
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>>388585270
You're only supposed to cast it in Dreadwyrm Trance

Ruin will never be replaced
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>>388584809
ranged hp increase was needed tho
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>>388585059
>TOOK AWAY MY KNOCKBACK
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>388584968
Glamour prisms are guaranteed money. Costs almost nothing to make and you can resell them for 5x the cost. Just set up a crafting bot to list them up one by one and watch them sell quickly.
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>>388585215
DRG is fun, shitloads of oGCD to combine with your strict rotation. No other job has GIERSKOOGLY GOOGLY.
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Think they will ever add new dye colors? Maybe even new special ones like neon, patterns or glow?
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>>388585392
NO
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
THAT KNOCKBACK WAS LITERALLY MADE USELESS BY THE SERVERLAG
IT WAS A PAIN TO USE CORRECTLY
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>>388585358

can't see shit it's too dark
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>>388585403
Eh, might give it a shot then
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>>388585392
>gap closer
>knocks back

Kinda strange for it to be both in one
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>>388585367
No fuck off, ranged are broken enough in frontline
>b-but feast
Hide behind the fence
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>>388585367
No it fucking wasn't. They're already one of the hardest classes to kill because of how easy they can kite you
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How do I not suck at level 70 SMN?

pls no google doc
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>Healer won't even bother to aero or something occasionally

I just dont get it. Why do people intentionally go slow?
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>>388585336
>>388585351
Seems like NIN is popular, too bad i cant play it cause my ping is shit after the server location changes.
>>388585352
Does SAM relies heavily on positionals? DRG has 2 iirc.
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>>388585396
This might be a dumb question, but mmo minon can do that? Set up a crafting bot to list them?
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>>388585047
Ok, hold the fuck up. It sounds like you are expecting SAM players to use Gyoten as much as they can. Of course that's a DPS loss. Using Gyoten shouldn't even be on the table unless you're away from the boss, and you shouldn't be away from the boss unless you are forced to be.

You use it to close gaps, that's why its called a gap closer, and gap closing is extremely important to melee players. Were you arguing against someone who uses Gyoten on cooldown or something? I don't think such a person exists

The way I was reading it, you were saying that you shouldn't use Gyoten to close gaps, its too weak because it costs 10 kenki, and that argument is completely retarded, which is why I have been suspecting you to be a complete retard this entire time

>>388585051
I dunno, that's kind of a moot point, isn't it? My point is the cooldowns being on the fairy makes her very strong, but if you took them off the fairy, obviously the SCH would be very strong instead. But then Eos would just be a non-stop Embrace spammer... I mean, this design would never come into being, and if it did Embrace would have to be really strong. I don't see your point.
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>>388585460
YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP I'D PULLY THE FUCK OUTTA HEALERS AND PUSH THEM INTO MY ALLIANCE'S MOB THEN HALMONG THEM OR KNOCK PEOPLE OFF LEDGES

GET FUCKING GOOD YOU WORTHLESS SHITTER

GODDAMNIT
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>>388585215
MNK doesn't stay 1-2-3 for too long, you'll be switching it up depending on the situation. I don't know about other melee DPSes.
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>>388585546
For what it's worth I'm east coast and can double weave NIN fine
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>>388585546
My ping is shit too and I still play it
>try to fuma
>doesn't register
Nuke california
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>>388585479
If you're too worried give it a shot on POTD, 60 DRG is not the whole experience but you get an overall idea of whats coming.
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>>388585595
NIN is 1-2-3
DRG is two different 1-2-3.
SAM is 1-2-3, some times 1-2.

t. BLM main whose rotation is just 1.
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>>388585546
You can play NIN just fine, don't worry. SAM only has 2 positionals, hitting them is kinda important (they generate 5 extra kenki if you hit them, worth about 60 potency)
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>>388585587
AND YOU'RE GONNA TELL ME YOU NEVER HAD SITUATIONS WHERE YOU WANTED TO PUSH SAID HEALERS TO YOUR TEAM BUT WITH THE SERVERLAG YOU INSTEAD PUSHHIM THE OTHER WAY BECAUSE YOU'RE SO GOOD
EAT A FUCKING DICK
A GAPCLOSER HAS NO FUCKING USE OF A KNOCKBACK WHILE A STUN MAKE IT 100% MORE USEFUL
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>>388585493
Hi there.
>not even pvp skill

>>388585546
>Does SAM relies heavily on positionals? DRG has 2 iirc.
No, yes it a dps loss if you missed it but they mostly only do it 2 times in 8-9 gcds, meanwhile drg do it like 6 times in 11 gcds.
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>>388585606
I can't double weave for shit senpai, i could barely play NIN back in HW with my ping. It was fun though.
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>>388585571
Look at it like this
Let's say you use your gap closer, but it only saves you 0.05s of uptime because you miscalculated.
If you're a SAM, you just lost 50 potency. If you're a DRG, you just made the tank's job a bit easier.
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>>388585747
Is this an asshurt shitpost from someone who never played BLM or what
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>>388585567
I'm think they got a addon for that
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>>388585546
Positional importance is, from most to least, MNK > DRG > SAM > NIN
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>>388585059
>NIN
>What if we took the second best melee DPS in PVP, give him more burst damage and stun?
>Genius!!
What the fuck is SE thinking?
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>>388585762
I TOLD YOU TO GET FUCKING GOOD IF I WANTED A GODDAMN STUN IN PVP I'D PLAY PLD THIS IS WHY JOBS GET HOMOGENIZED GOD KILL YOURSELF
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Wait, are you serious sam's gap closer is a dps lost?
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>>388585476
No, he's a SAM.
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>All of the currencies except for the capped one is so fucking worthless now, literally just turning it in for whatever the highest gil-price-ratio item is

I guess 40k gil for 2k poetics is okay.
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>>388585931
>tfw nin
>can stun bind and silence now
>can do mudras even sooner
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>>388585886
Nin has the lowest number of positionals, but not the lowest importance
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>>388585270
You're supposed to use it as much as you can without bottoming out your mana but you also have ruin 2 which you will prob be using the most of all the ruins to weave in your ogcds. IR3 doesn't replace ruin 1 try to use ruin 1 if your mana is low and you don't have lucid dream up, so only if you just got revived
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>want to play XIV
>can't pick a class
>don't want to level again
>tfw in a cycle
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>>388586037
If you don't gain uptime with it it's a DPS loss. If you keep uptime with it it's a DPS gain like any gap closer.
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>>388580483
t. salty drg
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>>388585860
I main BLM and its rotation is by far the (second) simplest out of all the dps. The only complexity surrounding the rotation is knowing when Thundercloud is a dps gain and when Firestarter would be a dps loss.

I'm talking strictly rotation though. Striking dummies.
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>>388586037
its a dps loss if you use it in melee range

dps gain if you use it more than a few feet away from boss
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>mfw quitting SB for fucking legion
Imagine making a game so utterly boring and devoid of things to do that it makes you miss fucking legion.
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>>388585529
I dunno, the best part of healing is that risk/reward when trying to balance getting damage off and stopping the tank from eating shit. On the other end of the spectrum, whenever I get a tank that respects the shit out of the content I will usually just pull another group to him so I have a decent reason to do something besides damage. or if I really wanna get the point across I'll just let the tank die and heal the dps while we finish off whatever baby group of mobs he pulled
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>>388586118
When I said importance, I meant how difficult it was to land the positionals. I guess importance isn't the right word at all. It's just that NIN rarely needs to move off the boss' ass. MNK and DRG will need to move between GCDs and SAM needs to move every other combo.
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Would you rather have a good NIN in your static, or a good SAM?
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>>388585529

sweetie, when you pay for my subscription, that's when you can tell me how i play my game
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>the usagi kabuto from old heavensturn legit looks better than Omega kabuto

I'm mad.
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>>388586150
Play PLD or something if you want fast levels

Tank still has instant queues
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>>388586295
Good SAMs exist so one of those
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>>388585931
>MNK in PVP now
Is there any point to them existing?
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>>388585830
Ok, that's probably wrong, 0.5 seconds is more than enough to justify 2 less potency per kenki spent, and 0.05 is a mistake that nobody will ever make in practice.

But more importantly, it doesn't make any sense to compare Elusive Jump to Gyoten. You should be comparing Elusive Jump to DFD and SSD. Of course, DRG is incentivized to use those (especially SSD) as much as they possibly can, but they are fortunate enough to have Elusive to fall back on for gap-closing (which is awkward due to its fixed distance and imprecision). Meanwhile, a SAM will only ever use Gyoten if he has to use it in order to close a gap

>>388585886
I dunno about that, m8. I'd say its more important for NIN since NIN needs a positional every 3rd GCD, basically. Unless that 3rd GCD happens to be Shadow Fang. Then again, off the top of my head, I'm not sure how much potency NIN loses by missing positionals.

Essentially, a DRG needs to hit 6 positonals every 11 GCDs, but 4 of those are F&C/Wheeling which suffer little from missing positional. A NIN needs to hit 3 every 12 GCDs, and a SAM (simplifying the rotation a bit) needs to hit 2 every 9 GCDs

>>388586287
That's a fair point. NIN has plenty of time to position themselves in advance, whereas DRG has to pop off positionals in a row at times, which can be awkward.
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>>388586223
Soon you'll say the same about legion and come back to SB or finally be the one that breaks your MMO addiction and realize the whole genre is dogshit by design and industry circumstances
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>>388582591
The healing set from Baelsar's wall/Sohm Al hard
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>>388586102
You can do Combo > Mudra Raiton inside combo > Mug > finisher combo > Bhavakra stun > kill with Assassinate while they are stun
I ask once again, what the fuck SE?
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>>388586295
>Would you want overall good DPS in your party or only one dude that has high DPS.

What a question.
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@388586223
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>>388586365
>First version of MNK in PVP had too much burst damage
>Lower their burst in the next balance patch
>Still too much burst damage
>Lower their damage, and burst
>Tfw MNK can't kill for shit anymore
No point at all when NIN exist and is now the burst king.
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>>388586375
>tfw Chemist never
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>>388586223
King's honor, friend.
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Any pro Dragoon tips? I am shit if i miss my positionals sometimes?
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>>388586370
I said 0.05, not 0.5. 0.5 would be a gain.
>and 0.05 is a mistake that nobody will ever make in practice.
It's possible.
> You should be comparing Elusive Jump to DFD and SSD
Not really. DFD and SSD are both just bonuses that you can use if they happen to be up for knockback. Elusive Jump is what you'll most often use as a gap closer, in which case it comes out ahead in almost every fight.
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>>388586413
More like really high personal DPS vs. marginally higher raidwide DPS.
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>>388583829
>>388583449
>>388582639
>>388583376
>>388584087
>>388583504
>>388583889
>>388583829
>>388583975
>>388584112

You are all idiots.

The top SMN parses use Ifrit now because the Radiant Shield damage from the whole party now counts as personal damage from the SMN on FFlogs.

This is the same as if all the additional damage people do when Trick Attack is up was counted as personal damage from the NIN.

It does not mean that Ifrit is necessarily the best choice for OVERALL GROUP DPS, as Contagion is far stronger than Radiant Shield as a damage buff (10% vs 2%).

In a comp like SMN-RDM-BRD-NIN, which is a very strong comp, Garuda is better.
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>>388586513
>LBing while in Stealth doesn't break it until after the animation and damage goes off
>>
>maintenance is exactly when I get off work
>when it comes off its 4 AM

I hate retarded Japanese time zones for maintenance. Fuck you S-E.
>>
>>388586370
>DRG has to pop off positionals in a row at times, which can be awkward.
Stand to the rear and left/right of the enemy
Move slightly left or right as needed to hit the rear or flank
Don't tell me you stand at the enemies 6 at all times
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>>388586601
I meant to say, you should be comparing Gyoten to DFD/SSD

Do you realize how short a time 0.05s is? There's no universe in which anyone who is 0.05s away from the boss is going to attempt to use their gapcloser. How do you "miscalculate" this?
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>>388586668
That's the fucking best, I fucking love fucking over Battle fever cunt getting too full of themselves.
>>
>>388586370
>I dunno about that, m8. I'd say its more important for NIN since NIN needs a positional every 3rd GCD, basically.
As a NIN you have no reason to ever move off the butt unless you need to refresh Huton, which is only every 30 seconds or so, and is at the end of a 3-hit combo. Then you know you can immediately move back to the ass of the boss. Compared to MNK who, if they happen to get thrown off by the rhythm of the fight, might be moving between every single GCD, and DRG, who is guaranteed to need to move between a single GCD at least once in every combo, or SAM who needs to alternate positionals, you're moving the least as a NIN and unless you need to use TA and TN isn't up, you're not losing as much DPS from lost positionals as the other jobs are over time.
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>>388586641
>The top SMN parses use Ifrit now because the Radiant Shield damage from the whole party now counts as personal damage from the SMN on FFlogs.
Are you sure that damage isn't the Vengence-effect thats attached to Radiant Shield?
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>>388586641
>bringing multiple casters
They are the cuck role, you're lucky if the group allows even one.
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>>388586738
It can be awkward if the enemy is rotating or moving, and it's certainly more work than standing at the ass the whole time like a NIN would. That's the point I'm making.
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>>388586371
I am hopelessly addicted to MMOs so whatever
>>388586574
Don't be mad SB is shit I'm already mad enough about it
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>>388586794
BLM is good damage man and RDM is great for progression
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>>388586582
Only if you miss them when there's no reason not to, sometimes you just can't help it because of a bosses position
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>>388586398
>implying any melee can actually get that off with out being counter stunned or pushed back or the enemy just moves 3 feet away
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>>388586641
Are you retarded? it works like every other buff. Ifrit is more DPS because on sic he does much higher personal DPS than Garuda to the point where Garuda only wins out if your whole party is magic DPS.
Are you really that retarded that you think the counter damage from the radiant shield is the 2% bonus physical damage? That's not how ACT works moron
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>>388586908
I was more speaking of the Feast Anon, not Frontline.
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>>388586885
>fucking around in 2s as DRG
>woops stacking for antilight
>woops stacking for 100g because OT was parking at the back
>woops -100Gs
>woops stacking for Unstable Gravity.

Not enough True North for this shit.
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>>388565675
It's based on universal tic wait.
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Does arms length works in o1s during breath/ice
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>>388586854
And a mnk does blm damage and offers raid utility. BRD, DRG, BRD and NIN. You bring anything else you are gimping yourself
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>>388586740
Well here's a hypothetical situation:
>in DF/PF content
>boss does a knockback
>surecast healer rescues SAM for more uptime right before SAM uses their gap closer
In this case the SAM just wasted that bit of kenki. It's not much but it's more than a DRG loses.
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>>388587082
No, and I fucking hated it.
>hurp durp we made it so this skill arbitrarily depending on the fight
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>>388587089
>And a mnk does blm damage
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>>388587089
What about having fun anon, is that gimping myself too?
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>>388587082
Even if it did, why would you do it?
The fireballs explosions would kill you
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>>388587054
At least you don't lose 25% of your damage like MNK or get forced to delay trick like NIN.
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>>388586295
SAM
The difference between a shit NIN and high DPS nin isn't much, as long as both are doing trick attack on CD. Meanwhile a good and bad SAM are like night and day.

If your static actually has great damage output though, the nin might be worthwhile
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>>388587226
They explode in the middle, not next to alt right
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>>388587203
Sorry it's true
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>>388587262
>The dif between a 5K NIN and a mediocre 3K NIN isn't much

W e w l a d s
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>>388587134
Why would a healer ever rescue someone for uptime's sake if they have a gap closer?

Even if this ridiculous situation did happen, you can't blame the SAM for doing that, so its hard to chide him for spending the Kenki there... I mean, that's the healer's fault
So again, your hypothetical situation doesn't make any sense.

>>388587082
No, the only thing I've found it actually works on is Vacuum Wave in O4/O4S not counting Neo Exdeath's version of it, and the Chain Mines in Doma Castle, which I will admit is pretty fun.

Maybe it works in Susano, but I really doubt it, I just can't recall having tested it myself.
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>>388587380
Doesn't work in Susano either.
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>>388587134
Oh, oh, as a follow up: If the healer rescued the dragoon before they used Elusive Jump, then they would end up jumping away 15 yalms from the boss, a massive uptime loss. So, no, the DRG would lose way, way more

Please try harder
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>>388587379
5k nin are a spook
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>>388587345
>People claim the MCH buffs didnt do shit and is still worse than bard.
>4th highest dps
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