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Guys this is why you don't complain about your ban on public

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Guys this is why you don't complain about your ban on public blizzard forums. If you want to spread rumors that bans are automated you should do so on Reddit and 4chan where they cannot check your IP.
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hi alex :3
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>>388550250
dont talk to me
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>>388550250
nigger
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Daddy Jeff throwing down the hammer.
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What a fucking legend.
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DESTROYED
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Jesus, that guy has been silenced since launch
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2247 reports for an actual ban? Man I am just going to keep throwing then.
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>>388551485
Are you illiterate? He had 4 bans and 7 silences already.
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Jeff is a just god.
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>>388550060
>384 days silenced

Shit nigger what are you doing
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>>388551813
say 1 more buzzword
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>>388551813
Censorship of shittalk is the Hallmark of a dying game
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>>388551867

It doubles every time. Doesn't take too many to feel the power of exponential growth.
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>>388550060
Blizzarded.
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>how do you even be disruptive in quickplay?
>thinks it's okay to grief and screw around because "lol there's no ranking"

Esports/twitch kiddies are the single greatest cancer on the face of the Earth.
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>>388550060
Isn't he posting from his in-game battletag? What does IP have to do with anything? Can't they just check his account based on his battletag, why are they mentioning IP
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>>388551813
>breaking the rules should be allowed
what's it like living in your 3rd world shithole?
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>>388551813
You could have just said "Overwatch players" and saved a lot of words.
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>guy on the forums complain about unfair ban
>Devs look into it and find that he has been silenced for literally over 9000 hours because of all the reports he gets
>His only excuse is "its just quickplay it doesn't matter lol"

It's always fun when Tigole takes the wheel from Jeff for a moment.
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>>388550060
holy kek.
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>>388552740
>Whoever came up with this sheer fisting of an encounter can go fuck themselves. Do me a favor so I don't waste my guild's time on this kind of jackass shit-fest again, send me an email at [email protected] when you decide to A) Implement an encounter that wasn't designed by a retarded chimp chained to a cubicle A.)Get a Quality Assuarance Department C) Actually beta test the fucking thing and D) Patch it live. And please for god's sake -- do it in the order I laid out for you. Don't worry, I won't charge you a consulting fee on that one. And for good luck you might as well E) Pull your heads out of your asses. While you're at it rename the game to BetaQuest since you've used up you're alotted false advertising karma on the Bazaar and user interface scam of '01.Fix the Emperor encounter. Fix Seru. Rethink your time-sink bullshit. Fix all the buggy motherfucking ring encounters (I suggest you let whoever made the Burrower one do this since that dude apparently laid off the crack the rest of you were smoking). Fix the VT key quest. Fix VT (just guessing it's fucked up considering your track record). Don't have the resources to fix this stuff? Move the ENTIRE Planes of Power team over to fixing Shadows of Luclin AND DO IT NOW. If you don't fix Luclin, you jackassess will be the only ones playing the Planes of Power.
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>>388550060
2247 reports holy shit
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>>388550060
>2247 complaints
holy shit
even if every other player in his team reports him every match it would still take almost 450 matches to reach that number
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>>388554203
That's dedication to shit talking we will never realistically achieve.
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>>388554203
It's even more impressive when you realize he spent over a year silenced. When the man wasn't getting temporary bans/chat disabled, he was shit talking ever second he could to rack up that report count
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>>388552740
>Tigole
>Jeffe went by Tigole Bitties
>People still think Blizzard is SJW
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>>388552382
It's simple

>guy bitches about being b&
>lets lie about him to make it seem obscenely justified and look cool ourselves

They could be telling the truth, but we'll never know. Hell even the fag himself could just be in on it and this whole thing is a PR stunt. Wouldn't be the first time blizzard pulled shit like this.

This is north korea tier propaganda any way you look at it, even if the concept itself might be funny.
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>>388552382
kiddies who get banned too much buy multiple copies of games on different accounts. people do it all the time in csgo (because its cheap and goes on sale a lot), i guess they do it in overwatch too
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>>388555549
Absurd conspiracy theory. Blizzard doesn't need to indoctrinate people; they've already got your money and people are lining up to bend over barrels for them.
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>>388550060
>banning based on IPs and not accounts
yeah no, stop defending the cancer that is activision, and stop pretending blizzard is anything but activision lite at this point, enjoy your destiny 2 mmo cucks
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>>388555869
>have 10 accounts to bot in wow
>they bot 24/7 and mail all the gold to my main account
>blizz should never ban my main for this because my main never botted

fuck off retard
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>>388550060
Now just imagine if some Activision blizztard actually tried to let the community know when the pre load for destiny 2 starts, since it's nowhere online except in an obscure Facebook comment. And no I won't preorder your shitfest game
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>>388555869
>cheater can just buy the game again if he gets punished
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>>388550060
Jeff is still a fucking retard who doesn't know how to balance the game.
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>>388556079
Yeah. Blizzard makes a ton of money off of the same idiot who keeps making the same mistakes.
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>>388556079
He can but you're defending corrupt moderation at this point.
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>>388550060
>ideal OW citizen
Did they hire Lyte or something?
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>>388555991
no, you ban the accounts that commit transactions with the bot accounts
really simple shit, manchild
>>388556079
thats generally how the world works, retard.

circumventing your own DRM to instill bans based off physical addresses is toxic practice thatll lead to terrible fucking shit down the line

i know yall fucking cancer but maybe you forgot what microsoft only just recently tried to do
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>>388550060
>repeatedly act like a dickhead
>"WHY IS EVERYONE SO MEAN TO ME"
fuck off shithead
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>>388555869
learn to read you nigger
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>>388556382
The only people who're getting punished are dick ass cheaters so I don't give a fuck if it's fair or not.
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>>388556373
every customer service department of every online game thinks they are fucking psychologists now because of that idiot.

Lyte is the worst thing to happen to multiplayer gaming. Period.
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>>388555745
Blizzard is bleeding money out it's asshole because even the zealots are burned out from their shit.

Overwatch especially is in a fucking terrible place.

They also shill here all the time. I mean fuck they even pushed that abortion of HotS as hard as they could here. You're probably one of them. Supreme leader Blizzard is doing better than perfect, right?
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>>388555869
>>388556382
They're cheaters who gives a shit
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>>388556765
>Lyte is the worst thing to happen to multiplayer gaming. Period.
The same could be said about a lot of things that came out of Riot Games.
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>>388556810
>You're probably one of them
Apparently you're just looking to pick a fight with anyone who replies to you. Nothing about my post even slightly suggested I support Blizzard.
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>>388556628
>>388556832

>it doesnt affect me!
look at the image i posted, cuck
it does affect you, and tolerating it and encouraging it is cancer. its toxic abuse of position of authority
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>>388556998
I don't really need to convince you of that, just anybody who's too stupid to see it on their own.
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>>388557039
Abuse? Don't like a game's terms of service? Don't buy it. Vote with your wallet.
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>>388556810
>Blizzard is bleeding money out it's asshole
blizzard games make tons of money, even world of warcraft
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>>388550250
hello Dave
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>>388557039
nobody gives a fuck you edgy little shit
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>>388550250
Oh, hey!
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>>388552002
Wait, why would someone have a reason to silence you when you're already silenced? It would be like telling a mute guy to shut up.
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>>388555303
Fuck, I never put two and two together
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>>388556079
And then they get banned again unless they stop cheating. What's the problem?
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>>388557174
A company is either growing, or failing.

Blizzard is not growing.

You could be making a trillion dollars a day but if you're only making 500 billion the next you still lost half your profit. I never claimed they were near bankruptcy or are in the red or anything obnoxious like that.

But because they're failing they'll do anything they can to start growing again, including shelling out to agencies to promote them.
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>>388556765
What did this Lyte do?
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>>388555991
>Play WoW at university
>Someone in your dorm was botting
>Get banned because you all have the same IP address
Yeah, great system there. It's even more idiotic due to dynamic IPs.
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>>388557772
How does one man become this retarded? It's mind boggling.
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>>388555549
alex jones? is that you?
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>>388557948
A ban against your IP would never occur independent of a ban of your account. But an account ban can occur independent of an IP ban.
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>>388557772
uhhh, activision-blizzard's stock has been going up for the past year
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>>388557948
>he thinks there's just one exit IP for an entire dorm
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>>388552002
If he has 384 days silent how the fuck does he get silenced? Niggas been silenced since launch he must have played at the end of every silenced period and sperged out getting muted again
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>>388557948
>walk into university
>illegally download something
>entire university goes to jail
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laughing at all the toxic banned retards here trying to blame blizzard for everything
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>>388552740
>>388550060
>getting banned in something you paid for, for anything outside of actually hacking
>being acceptable
>modern blizzard shiteaters actually fucking like tigole now
you disgust me in every way possible. this is why i grief people
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>Blizzard doesn't know what a dynamic IP is
Holy fucking shit
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Jeff Kaplan is a cuck

he's the face to why Overwatch is a bad game
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>>388558373
That doesn't even makes sense, let's say you paid to enter a place and then you start destroying whatever was inside this place, you are obviously gonna be punished for this
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>>388558373
>my actions shouldn't have consequences
lol too bad, faggot supreme
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>>388557818
WHAT DID LYTE DO
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>>388558457

Of all the people that got given that IP, how many of them do you think play Overwatch?
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I got banned from 4chan a few times for posts I never made, and I don't think my 8 year sister is a trap-posting rule breaker.

Is this the same case with random IPs?
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>>388558553
You're not paying to enter a place, you're paying for a product so your analogy already falls apart.
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>>388556079
IP banning doesn't solve that problem. Look up your IP address. Now reset your router and look again. Wow, it's different now.
Now look at a site that tracks torrent download hustory like iknowwhatyoudownload.com. You'll probably see the history of the last guy that had your new IP. According to Blizzard, you're guilty for his actions just for getting his IP address by chance.
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>>388550060
Maoist struggle sessions are now being used to justify bans for "muh mean behavior in an online game :("

We need to purge leftists
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>>388558779
You're paying for a service idiot
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>>388558696
Every isp get a pretty small range of IP, by zone probably, so, why don't you think, how many people that use the same isp play x game?
Its easy to get an IP from someone who already did nefarious things online.
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>>388558373
>this is why i grief people
Gee, I wonder why assholes like you get banned all the time.
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>>388558373
>I shouldn't be held responsible for my actions
Typical libtard ideology
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>>388558715
What if she is?
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>>388558831
No you're not you retarded waste of space. You're paying for the game, Overwatch runs on Blizzards servers but the game itself is not a service.
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>pick up a Care Bears video game
>act like an asshole
>politely asked to stop
>someone goes as far as suggesting a game that's more tailored to your tone
>"NO I PAID FOR THIS IT'S NOT LIKE I'M HACKING NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER"
I run a small daycare in a pretty rough neighborhood, so I'm pretty used to this type of person, OP. I'm just going to tell you this. People who walk into a daycare full of bright colors and happy kids, who start throwing Hitler salutes and f-bombs everywhere get put through a wall, locked in a storage closet, and beat until the cops come by to take you to your new home. That's real life and if you can't handle it over the internet, you're more worthless than the refugees you seem so fond of complaining about
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>>388550060
BTFO
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>>388558984
Im sorry you don't understand how software licenses work
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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
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>9216 hours silenced

I don't think anyone on 4chan could ever sperg out as hard as this guy must be sperging out in Overwatch.
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>>388558231
What is Network Address Translation?
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>>388558897
>liberal
>paying for a product and then taking away the product but not giving money back
eat shit you commie nigger, if i'm going to buy a fucking product i'm going to do what i fucking want with it.
>>388558642
>>388558862
i'll enjoy listening to faggots like you two ask me if this is what i do for fun when i'm blocking and teamkilling scum like you later tonight
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>>388558984
>the game itself is not a service
But it is, it has been like this since the gen 6 consoles, read up the little letters at the edge of every game you "own"
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>>388550060
That's pretty funny, but aren't most people on dynamic IPs these days? That account has clocked over one year of silence time, what is the chance that he just happened to be posting from the same IP address he had 384 days prior?
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>in his altern account he was a one trick mercy main
really makes u think...
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>>388558715
only little girls can post on the 4chins, so it was definitely her
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>>388558985
Anon, im sorry, but that's the most retarded story i've ever read
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>>388559114
Don't bother. Chumps like him don't know anything about IPv4.
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>>388550060
fugg
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>>388559120
You're using a company's service. That company has a right to revoke their service if you are not using it properly.
Dumb fuck
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>>388556810
>They also shill here all the time. I mean fuck they even pushed that abortion of HotS as hard as they could here.

Hell, I was in those threads a lot, because it was a lot of fun to play HotS around that time. It wasn't shilling, it was simply fotm. Just because you don't like something that's being discussed on /v/ doesn't mean it's shills.
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>>388558373
Throwing should be bannable. You're wasting the time of like 9 other people, they matter more than you, remove the problem.
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>>388559268
service my balls while i throw games that you play in and spew screamers through the mic and then call blizzard up if i get banned and have them urban me like they have 100s of times before.
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>>388559335
It's impossible to determine intent. You can just use this as an excuse to punish anyone who doesn't play as well as you want them to.
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>>388550060
wtf i love Jeff now
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>>388550060
I mean, Overwatch is shit anyway, who cares?
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>>388559330
it's been a while since i saw someone this mad on /v/
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>>388559434
You sound upset
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>>388558984
>the game itself is not a service.
fucking imbecile
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>>388559474
>mad
>because someone told you they don't care about your nigger shit
no one cares fuck off.
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>>388559330
Not him but
>runs a small business
>gibs check
You're an idiot
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>>388559526
it's ok you'll feel better after you eat some more chicken tendies
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>>388559551
>implying he actually runs the business
>believing things you see on the internet
you need to be 18 to post here.
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>ITT: Drumpflings whine about "MUH FREEZE PEACH"

oh sweetie, dont you know that us liberals control your silly little kids games now? if you even dare to express yourself in anything approaching a masculine (or "toxic" as we've rebranded it) manner, we will ban you and there's nothing you can do about it! Even if you pay!

Now who's the cuck? ;)
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>>388559445
If someone who worked their way up to one of the upper leagues suddenly starts shooting at a wall and performing at a bronze level then you can make an educated guess.

It's not like this guy got banned for his first offence.
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>>388559120
Read the EULA faggot.
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>>388559434
If that was remotely true you wouldn't be this assblasted on /v/ of all places about it. You either accept the TOS or not, and if you don't like it you can just not buy and play it like someone not retarded would do. No one is forcing you to deal with Blizzard you complete manchild.
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>>388558803
Majority of people have static IPs you fucking tard. It's part of why VPNs are so huge.
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>Jeff "Tigole" (((Kaplan)))
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>>388558250
>he must have played at the end of every silenced period and sperged out getting muted again
Yes, he's obviously an idiot.
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>>388559729
Oh yes m'sir I read and strictly adhere to the Code of Conduct on page 4047 of the Blizzard Citizen document, located on Index 83-a. It's very easy to find and anyone who doesn't read it should be banned, m'sirs.

>*Swishes cape*.

I wish women would have a EULA protecting their purity and virginity, per se. I'm so good at reading EULAs I would be having a lot of sexual intercourse
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>>388557039
First they came for teh Alt-Right, but I did not speak up for I was not a pepeposter...
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>>388559671
Like I said, impossible to determine intent. You're insisting people should be punished for things that can't be proven, in which case you should advocate and allow them to ban your account when you've done nothing wrong because enough people insisted you did do something wrong. If you would not be fine with this sort of treatment in theory; in this hypothetical situation, then you should not be fine with it happening to other people. The excuse that it wouldn't happen to you does not justify that it could happen to others.
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Wow Jeffrey gave me e-fame.
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>>388559752
Dont know what service you have, but both Comcast and Verizon use dynamic IPs for consumer broadband.
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>>388559909
What are you on about now
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>>388559909
niggers
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>>388556382
Xbone woulda been lit if you could play physical games without the disc, going back on that was a mistake unless you're a Gamestop exec, that is.
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>>388555869
>>388556079
OW bans based on IP, account and PC.
They don't want your money.
If you get permabanned you have to reset your IP (easy), rebuy the game, buy a new motherboard and start from scratch.
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>>388559924
>Don't get hooked...
>Stay off the cock!
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>>388559625
>everything on the internet is a lie except what i say
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>>388559973
how did you manage such a feat
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>>388559973
post your ass healslut
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>>388559090
The digital equivalent of running into the middle of a stadium, shitting and throwing faeces at other players is not protected speech.
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>>388559625
>i think his whole post is made up
>except for the part where i think he's a nigger; that part is factual and accurate
Damn dude
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>>388559938
I'll just be straight up with you, if something beyond your control causes you to behave in a manner that seems like throwing on a regular basis I don't want you playing games with me regardless. Play casual mode or get banned, it makes no difference to me. If you have seizures or some shit beyond your control regularly enough to get yourself banned you shouldn't be playing competitive games.

When my internet was unreliable I stopped playing competitive games because I'm not a piece of shit.
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>>388559973
>silver shitter

as expected from such a toxic fuckhead
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>>388560115
wow with analogies like these it's going to be 16 years
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>>388552382
The account he used to make that post was brand new. So he got multiple bans on his original and bought a 2nd copy just to go bitch on the forums.
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>>388559120
>if i'm going to buy a fucking product i'm going to do what i fucking want with it.
Actually, you're purchasing a software license and a service and agree to rules of conduct. You're just too dumb to understand this. The trick is, this functions according to law, not what YOU think is fair.
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>>388560161
This makes you a hypocrite. Rules should be enforced uniformly. If you're OK with people being banned for throwing when it's possible they didn't throw on purpose, you should be OK with your account being banned for throwing when you didn't throw on purpose.
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>>388559973
Assuming you're actually the same guy, how does it feel to have crippling autism?
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>>388558984
>mic spamming nigger underage LET ME HANZO detected
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>>388560230
He's disrupting a public event. He's also very likely acting indecent. IRL he would've been fined and probably even imprisoned; in the game he's just getting banned. Does this sound wrong to you?
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>>388560161
>playing CSGO with friends
>one of us has a baby
>can hear the baby crying
>suddenly the sound transitions to screaming and gurgling
>can hear his wife panicking in the other room
>"oh shit guys i gotta go"
>we all report him for griefing on account of not setting aside at least 45 minutes for a ranked match
>next night someone breaks into my house while we're playing
>dude steals my computer and interrupts my game
>hurry down to best buy and buy a new computer
>download CSGO and log on
>banned for leaving a game early
Damn
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>>388560493
Law of the jungle, bitch.
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>>388559909
Oh, so you're a fucking child. See, ignorance of the rules is not an excuse. That's how it works regardless of your opinion.
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>>388550060
>someone bitches about being banned in an online game
>turns out the chat logs, play history, etc prove that the ban was absolutely justified

Really makes you think...
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>>388560463
yes because I don't know if you've noticed but the internet is not real life, newfag
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>>388560320
If I had behavior on my account that looked like throwing in significant amounts then I would deserve to be banned. If I had a perfect track record (I do) then I don't.

>>388560493
They never ban you for the first offence you hyperbolic goof. If this shit is happening regularly then I don't care how out of your control it is, play casual matches.
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>>388560609
>gets completely btfo and shown up as the fedora tipping redditor he is
>y-you're a child!!

epic
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>>388559752
Nearly everyone has dynamic IP.
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>>388558373
>Pay for a service with clear terms of service
>Break terms of service
>"WOW I SHOULDN'T BE PUNISHED THIS IS BS FUCKING JEWS I DIDN'T EVEN HACK"

If you don't want to follow rules then either prepare your anus for a ban or don't do business with the company. You don't get to complain.
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>>388560631
You don't get to determine what your track record looks like. The people you play with determine that. That's the point. It doesn't matter what you actually do; it matter what other people believe you're doing. This is the part about it being impossible to determine intent and it's the important part you're trying to ignore.

You should only be OK with peoples' accounts being banned for throwing without concrete evidence if you would be willing to shrug and let it go if your flawless account got banned for throwing.

Since it's obvious you wouldn't be OK with that, why are you insisting other people should be subject to such treatment? Do you not acknowledge this makes you an enormous hypocrite?

Accounts should not be banned for assumptions. Ever. Full stop.
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>>388558642
Your actions should have consequences, and those consequences should be proportionate to your actions. Getting banned from a game you paid for and never being able to play it again because you griefed or said an offensive word isn't a proportionate consequence.
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>>388560772
Jesus Christ, you're so painfully 15.
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>>388559938
>but judge, I didn't intend to shoot him
>my finger just slipped so it wasn't murder
>you can't prove my finger didn't slip
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>>388559752
source - my ass
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>>388559335
>you're wasting the time of like 9 other people, they matter more than you,

team games were a mistake
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>>388560998
>what is manslaughter
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>>388560978
this is a really weak retort- expected of the left wing at this point

we've got you on the edge
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>>388558984
Get out the 90's idiot.
Gaming has changed and we let it be this way. You don't actually 'own' new games, you're basically agreeing to rent them, for as long as you want, as long as you play ball.
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>>388560998
Bad analogy. Criminal law does distinguish the difference between first and second degree murder, and suspects are innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. If there is reasonable doubt they are not prosecuted. That's how the system was designed to be fair. It's only unfair when people start making assumptions and that's when the law fails. Your mockery implies the law should always assume people intended to kill in which case there would be no need to charge a serial killer who butchers several dozen people any differently from a kid who lost control of his car in the rain because he was going too fast.
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>>388560959
>You don't get to determine what your track record looks like.

It's called don't be an asshole, but by all means show me one (1) ban in Overwatch that wasn't justified.
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>>388560463
>That guy shit me in this game!
>IF THIS WAS REAL LIFE HE WOULD HAVE GONE TO PRISON!

It's not real life. It's a game.
However, he deserved the ban for playing overeddit in the first place.
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>>388560959
People go for thousands of hours with no bans and most games have them review footage before they ban people. I would be ok with having to protest an unfair ban once every 5 years versus a wild west of a game where people throw constantly for no reason with no punishment. In the op's example they clearly reviewed footage or chat logs before making this decision.

They have access too statistics and footage
If you have a significant amount of time on your account that looks like throwing (playing way below your skill level or whatever) then I don't really care what the reason is, have a time out.

Personally though I support a secondary queue where all the people who are shitheads play together.

>>388561160
So play 1v1 games. I play way more fighting games than I do shooters. No allies to report you there.
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>>388550060
fucking roasted
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>>388561327
every single ban where the player said things that were not literally illegal are not justified
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>>388559973
How do you play your placements AND lose 300 sr in 2 hours played?

I don't think that is even possible.
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>>388560972
They don't just ban you immediately for saying nigger in chat. You get something like a 24 hour ban, if you keep it up eventually you'll get a permanent ban. If someone can't learn to not be a prick for 5 minutes then it's on them.
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>>388561412
Savage (upvote)
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>>388560895
>clear terms of service
stopped reading there. If you ever read TOS's and understand anything about contracts, laws, or legal speak, you'll see that most are horrifyingly ambiguous and contain all kinds of bullshit that must be arbitrarily ruled on. That's why you usually don't want to be putting yourself at the mercy of the TOS because then it's just up to the devs what to do with you whether you're in the right or not. TOS's just exist to cover the ass of the developer/publisher so they don't get sued and can take legal action if they need to.
TOS have never been a magical key to illegality. If I put in blatantly illegal language in a TOS, the entire document is invalid. Even if it is not, it is up to a judge to decide if it's enforceable at all.
Consumer laws still exist, and vary by state and country.
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>>388561425
nm he probably just kept joining comp and just leaving
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>>388561254
niggers
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>>388561445
Why do libtards love paternalism so much? It's literally ruining the internet and free exchange of ideas.

Fucking snowflake faggots
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>>388561503
to be fair, if the support said he cheated, he's totally in the right there for wanting to know why he was banned.
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>>388560895
>if you don't agree to the terms of service you don't get to complain because you never played the game
>if you agree to the terms of service you don't get to complain because you give up your right to complain by doing buisness with the company

So basically you're saying Blizzard and their policies are infallible.
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>>388561365
Of course there are ways to deal with the problem other than permanent bans. Doesn't change the fact that banning people without irrefutable proof is by strict definition extremely unfair to the people being banned. Since it is impossible to determine whether someone is intentionally tanking their performance in a match without evidence like a confession in voice or text chat, no instance of a ban for that offense should happen unless that evidence exists. Ever. People shouldn't have to prove their innocence (if that's even possible).
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>>388559670
here's a pity (you) for such a pathetic attempt
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>>388561639
No one's gonna get banned unless they have a TON of complaints and reports thrown against them fucknuts. Some random douche getting butthurt because you had a bad game isn't going to make you lose your game.
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>>388556201
Lol, based Jeff knows what he's doing. Don't you know how many hours he has on OW? He has more hours than anyone could ever achieve.
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>>388561639
Yeah this isn't jailing someone. We can make reasonable guesses based on stats, footage and chat logs.

If your perfomance consistently looks like throwing, then at that point intent doesn't matter. I don't care if you're letting your nephew play on your account or something. You're wasting the time of like 9 other people.
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>>388550250
Those other alexs are evil. I dont play overwatch. Call me prime Alex.
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>>388561713
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"

why do liberals throw away centuries-old wisdom on a whim? it's going to come back to bite them hard
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>>388559515
>the game is a service not a product
fucking mongoloid
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>Want to partake in a service
>This service has rules
>Violate rules
>Be barred from service
>"WOOOOOOW"

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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How do we even know If Jeff is telling the truth here? I mean this is the same guy who thought reaper didn't need a buff and was fine.
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>>388561606
Wew lad it must be nice being so sheltered that you consider fucking getting banned for breaking a video game company TOS such a colossal problem
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>>388561260
Go eat shit if you actually fucking believe this.
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>>388550060
Lmao@all the butthurt faggots whining that they can't geief. How about not being a fucking cunt in every game you play, shitlord? Drop the BM and play the game, or buy another copy and get banned for being a cunt on that too, cunt.
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>>388561713
Doesn't matter if there's a mountain of hearsay. Do you not understand the concept? No matter how many people say someone is throwing a match, none of them know the actual intent of the person they're accusing.

>>388561787
So if your performance consistently looks like throwing to other people (even though you're not throwing) you would be perfectly fine with accepting your ban?

Are you not understanding this? It doesn't matter what YOUR INTENT IS if enough people complain about you. In order to honestly support a system that would ban other people without actual proof you would need to honestly be fine with them banning you under the same circumstances that are beyond your control.
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>>388550060
Blizzard is notorious for btfo'ing people complaining about unfair bans/suspensions. There is tons of comedy gold.
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>>388561807
Go to your local coffee shop and start hurling insults at everyone. You'll be kicked out and possibly banned. Regardless of how you feel about it, logging into a company's server is basically the same thing, using their servers is a privilege not a right.
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>>388550060
>2247 complaints
>9216 silenced hours
Sounds like those summaries they use in American movies when their last resort is a cop who's also a loose cannon living on the edge.
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>>388559909

>Can't be assed to follow basic rules
>Doesn't expect to be reprimanded when lashing out against others in a video game
>Throws a temper tantrum on an anonymous imageboard when someone disagrees with him

It all checks out, chief.
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>>388562003
except for it's the furthest from the same thing that's even possible you fucking mongoloid

the internet is not real life but you are sheltered enough to believe it is
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>>388550060


lol, reminds me of the people getting BTFO by bungie mods when halo reach came out
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>>388559909

All you have to do is not be a raging asshole. Are you so fucking retarded that you can't even manage that?
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>>388550060
I'm curious, does the blizzard ban/silence thing apply in Destiny 2 or do they just sell it and bungie decides.

I never played Overwatch but I remember the silence thing was very cancerous in WoW.
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>>388550060
i miss the days when we could write whatever the fuck we wanted and didn't cared if we insulted faggots, shemales, niggers, chinks, whites and virgin noob gamers just for the kick of it, now since almost every games are on voice ip, people gets offended for nothing
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>>388562141
Define "raging asshole".
Does that mean all banter should be banned, because you're too much of a thin skinned faggot to handle it?
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>>388562068
another triggered redditor

>>388562141
>heh just grow up and become a mature liberal like me! anger is an emotion not included in the xenofeminist manifesto

your kind will be gone within the decade
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>>388562085
How is the internet not real life?
Do you think talking on the phone also isn't real life?
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>>388558004
The jews, it's obvious
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>>388561976
They don't fucking ban you just because of reports. They review the footage and chat logs. If someone is good enough to make masters they shouldn't suddenly start playing at a bronze level when someone asks them to switch heroes or something. Or if they apologize in chat or something that would be a mitigating factor as well.

They also work in stages, they mute first for example. Also if you're doing something that makes thousands of people report you then maybe you're the problem.

You can never have "actual proof" so you're basically just saying that no one should be punished for throwing.
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>>388561583
>shouting nigger in game chat is "free exchange of ideas"
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>>388562279
talking on the phone is not the same as real life human interaction either you absolute human sewer

off yourself
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>>388562279
Does your phone company shut off your service if you call someone a nigger?
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>>388558695
lyte used to work at riot (the makers of league of legends)
he popularized the "toxicity" buzzword and spent his time at riot coming up with systems to punish trolls and flamers in league
he's also known for being pretentious because he has a psychology degree or something
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>>388558373
ToS you little shit
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>>388562085
The company owns the fucking servers. Play ball or fuck off. The company owns the building. Play ball or fuck off.
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>>388562354
yes, it is

don't like it mute it

nigger
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>>388561583
>exchange of free ideas

Yes someone being banned from Overwatch for being obnoxious as fuck stops the "exchange of free ideas". Moron.
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>>388562003
>Go to your local coffee shop and start hurling insults at everyone.
>logging into a company's server is basically the same thing

As if we needed any more proof /v/ is cucked by corporate apologists. I'm glad /pol/ is overruning this shitstain of a board
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>>388552265
>being mad that people arent competitive in the casual gamemode
have you ever, uh, idk.. considered playing the competitive playlist if you want competitive play?
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>>388562252
>Does that mean all banter should be banned, because you're too much of a thin skinned faggot to handle it?

I never said that but hey, keep up the strawmans; it's working great for ya. Maybe don't hurl insults and racial slurs. That'll go a long way to keep you from a ban.
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>>388561175
That's why I said it wasn't murder.

>>388561297
>Criminal law does distinguish the difference between first and second degree murder
Irrelevant in this case. I wasn't making the case that the guy is innocent of any crime. Just that he's innocent of murder.

>beyond a reasonable doubt
And this is the point. It is not proven guilty 100%. It is proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt, and in these cases, there are a lot of assumptions. Say it's clear that the guy has a motive for killing someone, there's physical evidence saying that he killed him, etc. Is it 100% certain that it was murder? No. It'll be ASSUMED that it was, because all the evidence points towards it, and no evidence claims it to be otherwise.

There is basically always assumptions involved, so instead of going on the path of "you're not allowed to ban people based on assumptions", you should instead be determining what is the point beyond reasonable doubt. You can say, relatively certainly, that a player who stops healing on mercy and uses nothing but her pistol is throwing a match, but because you can't read the guy's mind, I guess that's not grounds for punishment.

> Your mockery implies the law should always assume people intended to kill
Man I wish people stopped throwing in strawmans in their posts. I'm suddenly implying a hundred different things I didn't state, because you wanted to understand my post in that way.
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>>388562469
Please explain what idea the word "nigger" conveys.
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ITT angry racists mad they can't shout nigger over and over with no consequences
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>>388558373
>Agree in a document (that you probably didn't read) to not do a thing
>Do the thing
>HELP IM BEING OPPRESSED

Now if you're complaining that a private company shouldn't even be able to set rules for banning people beyond exploiting the game with hacks you can fuck off. Its their game, their rules. Don't buy it if you disagree with their rules.
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>2247 complaints
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>>388550060
>trash talk is now """abusive chat"""""

Fuck this generation.
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>>388562252
Just use a fucking mic, no text no proves LMAO
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>>388562420
he was outed as a submissive degenerate sex pest who cheated on his suicidal fianceee with 3 different Riot employees (by leveraging his status at the company

it's funny how all these leftists who want to control and pathologize human behavior over the internet in an online game are always the most deranged and mentally ill examples of mankind

>pic related is who you are agreeing with when you defend bans for "toxic" speech in online games

it's worse than pedogaf at this point
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>>388558373
>go to restaurant
>order meal
>start eating it
>start shitting yourself profusely in your chair
>it is unacceptable that the restaurant banned me! this is outrageous!
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>>388562509
How is it not? You don't have any sort of argument. People can throw you off of their property. Go pay for a movie ticket then be obnoxious in the theater. You'll be kicked out. That's analogous to paying to play a game online.
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>>388562742
He was fired because riot found out about his philandering

people like this should be imprisoned
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>>388561445
Nah, getting banned from playing for saying offensive shit isn't a proportionate response. If someone is abusing chat then take away their chat privileges. The majority of OW's playerbase are pricks in subtle but different ways, overhanded moderation isn't going to accomplish anything, pricks will always find ways to subvert and abuse the system no matte how much you try to ban them.
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>>388558985
Why would niggers throw hitler salutes in your rough neighborhood? The f bombs and yelling nigger is part and parcel of an urban neighborhood so the only one getting beat is you, liberal. Go prep your bull.
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>>388558250
he played for 4600 hours before he was unmuted
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>>388561940
Prove it isn't true
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>>388562479
it literally does

>>388562602
it conveys that you are a low iq ape and literally get offended over a single word which is funny to anyone with a father figure
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ITT angry SJWs mad and want to impose their consequences over offensive speech because your rights ends where their feelings begin.
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>>388562834
>Nah, getting banned from playing for saying offensive shit isn't a proportionate response. If someone is abusing chat then take away their chat privileges.

So, much like what happened to the one in OP's pic, then. He got silenced, and other actions he did while silenced got him banned.
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>>388562759
>so fat you think of food analogies to defend game companies
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>>388550060
didnt he btfo himself with that post because who would play this game now besides blizzdrones and 15 year olds

that might even be a new record, that guy who trolled 450+ ranked games in lol got finally banned and thats only like 225+ hours of trolled gameplay
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>>388562742
>>388562830

This is the guy that spearheaded the war on toxicity? Free speech is dying in online games because of /this/ guy? LMAO
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>>388562742
>>388562830
that's fucking hilarious, i didn't know about that
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>>388562946
Thats not how burden of proof works
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>can't even manage to not get banned in a videogame ford kids
>acts high and mighty on 4chan to hide his actual butthurt and blames jews, liberals, feminists, niggers, the moon bunnies, Jimmy Hoffa, Unions, the merge of Squaresoft and Enix, the Civil War and the DNC instead of realizing how dumb he is
sad!
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>>388562383
it is the same
you say a word and the other answers
simple ;')
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>>388558984
It's their legal right to stop servicing you at their discretion, deal with it commie
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>>388562981
>I think it's okay to be a cunt to be people online in a game where I explicitly signed a EULA stating that that sort of behaviour is unacceptable and yet continue to do so with the assumption I am the right
Don't you have a safe space to hide from all these spooky, scary modern ideals you're incapable of dealing with? :)
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>>388562742
>>388562830
That's a chad attitude though, /ourguy/ confirmed
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>>388562730
yea kys
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>>388563027
>So, much like what happened to the one in OP's pic, then.
He got banned because he was using an IP that already had a banned account on it. I'm not saying you shouldn't get banned for hacking, but a permaban for all of eternity even if you buy their game again is nowhere near a proportionate response to BM in chat, regardless if this guy was a prick.
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>>388562742
lol what a cuck

sad to see Kaplan follow in his footsteps
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>>388562559
So you have a completely subjective and arbitrary line between what constitutes banter, and what constitutes an insult.
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>>388563384
He's submissive. He's barely a man at all.
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>>388561445
Have you ever heard of free speech?
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>Jeff "I will look up your account's play time history to shame you about not playing as much as I do" Kaplan
>Stupid enough to think IPs are a good way to track users
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>mfw accidentally posted a porn link in all chat

what are the odds I'm getting done in for that?
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>>388552265
>playing team games without a team
Truly everyone playing these games deserves the bad things that happen to them.
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Anyone defending Blizzards behavior doesn't play video games.
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>>388563335
>I think it's ok to completely ban people for being a cunt online aka saying shit that offends me because muh EULA is infallible with the assumption that moderating people's behavior online is a modern ideal that's right
>Don't you have a space space to hide from being censored online because banning offensive people and scary ideals you're incapable of dealing with isn't trying to create a safe space in the first place
Don't you have some cocks to suck?
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>>388563751
freedom of speech doesn't apply when you agree to a certain set of rules when using a product
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>>388558373
>I paid for a product, that means I own it and all its uers and everyone else must behave according to my terms and not the creators' who spent several hundred times worth of what I payed to make the game
actually fucking sociopathic
get yourself checked please
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>it's just quickplay

These sub-humans should be gassed
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>>388563751
does not apply to private companies and whatever stupid rules they decide to enforce on their own servers

the simple solution is to not buy shitty reddit games like OW if you don't like how they treat their customers
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>>388562558

If you want to fuck around like a retard go play Garry's Mod.
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>>388564089
Your accusing him of what you're actually doing.
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>>388563751
Yes I have, being banned from an online video game for being a tool is not a violation of your freedom of speech.
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>>388564146

>THIS!

OVERWATCH IS A SERIOUS THINK YOU NOW ONLY PLAY META OR GTFO IF WE LOOSE I REPORT U
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>>388564238
>say thing
>get banned for it

it's literally a violation of freedom of speech
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>>388563447
He lost his chat privileges first, then again, and again, to the point where most of his time playing has been spent without being able to chat. Other actions done while being silenced has got him banned, eventually permabanned.

If someone definitely, absolutely refuses to learn from their mistakes, I think a permaban is correct.
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>>388563751
If someone came to your house and started calling you a faggot, your mom a whore, your dad a spineless cuck would you just "laugh it off" or tell him to leave?
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>>388564356
why do you keep making these terrible and inapplicable real life analogies? are you a robot or something?
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>>388563751
That's for the government, moron. You have the right to freely criticize the government without being locked the fuck up or killed for it.

If you scream NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER in the middle of a store, you're going to get thrown out of that store and banned from it too. Are you going to complain about freedom of speech then, as well?
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>>388563969
I probably play more games than you and I'm fine with it because people who waste my time can suck a dick.
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>>388564340
So you have no idea what freedom of speech actually entails.
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>>388561807
What the fuck are you talking about. We're talking about bans based on you not following the EULA given to you for a PRIVATE service. Fuck /pol/tards are so dumb and I'm not even a liberal.
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>>388562769
>How is it not? You don't have any sort of argument
Because it's not real life. That's the only argument needed.

If you think going to the movie theater or coffee shop and verbally assaulting people IRL is analogous to paying to play a game and talking shit online, you have actual brain damage.
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>replying seriously to the thread of a guy who couldn't even keep a straight record in pub games
Ya niggas all getting trolled, the fag can't troll in overshit anymore so he trolls in 4chan

sage for shit thread
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>>388564308
nobody's talking about meta you spazz, the tiniest indication that you're actually trying to play the game is more than enough.
And there are a bunch chucklefucks who very clearly don't.
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we're just all actually joking here, right?
there aren't people that are THIS serious about their "right" to grief, right? right?? guys??
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>>388564497
freedom of speech means you are free to say the things you want, even if they dont like it. it's liberty.

“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”

― George Orwell

Try reading books or something uneducated nigger
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>>388564340
Look up what freedom of speech actually is. Freedom of speech does not mean you suffer no consequences for what you say, it means that you can openly criticise the government without being dragged off to a gulag and worked to death.

Being banned from a service for breaking their rules is not your freedom of speech being violated. No one has to listen to you talk.
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>>388564443
>inapplicable
Overwatch is a private space where people abide to certain set of rules, much like a family's house.
Why is it so hard for you to understand this?
You broke rules, got warned through and through and yet continued to be a spastic retard to other people.
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>>388555303

His infamous rant about EQ content was in 2002.

People can grow up
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>>388564531
In both cases you're using someone else's property at their discretion. I'm personally against banning for speech, but I can understand why they do it. I'm absolutely in favour of banning for throwing or other nonsense.
>>
You have been making these threads for several months now. Don't you think it's time to stop?
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>>388564713
The principle of freedom of speech is what's being discussed here, and online games enjoyed strong adherence to that principle until (((conicidentally))) leftists started infesting the industry.
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>>388564356

No, I would type "/ignore (you)" into the air, because real life is just like video games.
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>>388564698
you're speaking on a website that hated "Niggers" and women so much their founder had to leave
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>>388564089
>>I paid for a product, that means I own it
Yes. That is correct.
> and all its uers and everyone else must behave according to my terms
That is literally what you are saying here.
>not the creators' who spent several hundred times worth of what I payed to make the game

So if you buy a book and the creators decide one of the chapters is problamatic they can show up to your house and rip the chapters out of your book? That's what youre defending here.
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>>388564880
hehe how dare people say things that go against the left wing agenda right comrade?
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>>388562256
>anyone who can keep his cool and maintain a civil conduct is a libtard
See, this is why you're the bottom of the septic tank and an autistic manchild.
Here, you and i can go all out and since you're one fucking stupid nigger (see, no problem here), it would eventually serve as a catharsis, maybe.

Outside, if you were to keep the same psychopathic behavior, i'd give you 2 hours before some cop would have his knee right on your neck or straight shoot you, since you're a nigger, your black fingers could be mistaken for a gun or your lose pants would make you reach for them and prevent them from falling off, being mistaken for reaching for a weapon.

In a game or any offered service with a TOS/EULA/etc. when interaction is available with other customers, being such a piece of annoying obnoxious shit is against it and you'll be driven out for the BETTER.

You're an annoyance and nobody is being against free speech or any restriction of freedom of action .. you are. You libel, you shit the mic and you insult everyone's freedom of action and ability to use vocal chat.

You're a redhair fluidkin transdyke feminist with a blowhorn and a piss bottle. You are the libtard.
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>>388564340
Freedom of speech doesn't apply like that.

A private business reserves the right to remove you from their own private servers for whatever stupid reason they wish. If a man walks into a store without shoes, and the owner asks them to leave, do you think the business is infringing on the man's right to free expression? Of course not, it's just the store's policy and if enough people don't like it, then they don't go to that store and it suffers financially.

just don't buy OW, you fucking retard
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>>388564705
You're confusing freedom of speech and protection of freedom of speed.

You're perfectly free to say it, but you do not have freedom of consequences.


Like, it's perfectly in your right to to wear a sandwich board that says 'I HATE NIGGERS' in Harlem. But don't think you won't get the shit beaten out of you as a result.
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>>388564126
It is just quickplay though. If you want serious teammates then play comp. Or better yet stop queuing solo like a dumbass and get some friends.
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>>388561591
Chances are the support staff just said he was in violation of the code of conduct and the guy did mental gymnastics to assume that all it meant was cheating.
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This was never a problem when they let people host their own fucking games and servers.
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>>388564852
I think it's more related to the popularity of games. Go talk to a normal person, they'll be appalled that people tell each other to commit suicide online. If you want those people to buy your game ( and there are a lot of them ) then people like you need to be muzzled.

Honestly I'd rather have 20 sales and mute the guy from /v/ than 15 and "muh values".
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>>388563282
It literally is. You are the original one claiming it is another way thus the burden is on you tor prove otherwise.
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>>388559737
Baited you fucking leftist moron
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>>388564226
How is any of that related? He wants people to bend over to his will in a product of which he willingly signed a Term of Agreement to behave in a way the creators find acceptable. If you don't want to comply to the terms and rules of a game, don't buy it. If you think it's wrong, complain. The company with the rights to the game has the say over what happens, and they clicked 'I Agree' to that stupid box of text nobody reads. He reads the rules, accepts them, and decides to go against them after he breaks them? If anything that is socialistic.
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>>388564984
lmao at this assravaged pedogaf dreg. keep dabbing at your torn sphincter after /pol/ finished on November 8th fagboy

>>388564989
it's still a violation of freedom of speech

>>388565001
so you're admitting it's a violation of freedom of speech

>>388565074
perhaps one day it will be against the law to do such things
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>>388565001
>like, it's perfectly in your right to to wear skimpy clothing in Harlem but don't think you won't get the shit raped out of you as a result
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>>388564705
You're free to say what you like, but so does everyone else around you. You are not free from the consequences of your speech.

Why don't you go exercise your freedom of speech out in public? After all, you have that right.
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>>388562956
I'm not really offended, just baffled at the stupidity that makes you think shouting nigger is exchange of ideas.
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There you go OP.
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>>388564984

Why are you accusing him of supporting all the things you're actually supporting?

Him typing "nigger" into the chat doesn't deprive anyone else of their right to type "Good luck, have fun! :^]", you mentally ill hypocrite.
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>>388565189
FUCKING SEXIST DELET THIS
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>>388564852
The principle of freedom of speech does not include tolerating someone being an obnoxious cunt. George Orwell wasn't talking about some edgy 15 year old saying nigger in an online video game.

Games back then were run by admins who could be complete fucking spegs and ban people for saying anything they deemed negative. If anything it's easier to get away with now because games have gotten so popular that unless you're really bad you'll go by unnoticed, even if you do get reported. Being a dipshit in CS 1.3 could get you banned if the admin didn't like it.
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>>388562981
the more people who buy your game, the more money you make
most people don't like being called "faggot" or "retard" or any other word along those lines
punishing people who do that is something casuals want and keeps them buying loot boxes
nothing about that has anything to do with SJWs
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>>388565165
Hopefully not. If I ever owned a game server I would want the freedom to do whatever it took to maximize my profits. If banning the one guy from /v/ gets me 5 sales then that is absolutely a decision I'm going to make.
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>>388565154
>He wants people to bend over to his will

No, you are.
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>>388565237
I frequently do. I'm just making the observation that many others are making that leftist companies like blizzard and google are starting to shut down what used to be tolerated as free speech with draconian punishment. litigation may be necessary to protect our fundamental liberties eventually.

>>388565269
go be a nigger somewhere else

>>388565368
>The principle of freedom of speech does not include tolerating someone being an obnoxious cunt.

it literally does, but further more you are given a mute button for you to spam at your behest. yet you clamor for more, you clamor for "reform" of those mean toxics. why is this? why are leftists incapable of ignoring things they dont like?
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>>388550060
>That account has a total of 2247 complaints filed against it
This nigga angered an entire town's worth of people.
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>>388565165
>violation of freedom of speech
>on a private server
>owned by a private company
>with rules totally not related to freedom of speech

I don't know how much of a poltard or a libtard you are because at this point, you seem to stupid to have a solid grasp at how shit works in real life but in short .. you have no fucking idea about what "freedom of speech" means.

And it doesn't surprise me.
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>>388564897
Depends if you sign a contract of terms of use as you bought the book. And the book was a game many people interacted with in real time. And you were breaking rules of terms of use of the book that you agreed upon purchase. Not the best comparison.
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>>388564705
Freedom of speech means the government can't sign any laws against anything you might have to say. It does not mean private businesses can't throw your ass out if they don't like what you have to say.
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>>388564531
This shit is only going to get worse with kids growing up now. The internet is an extension of real life for these freaks.They cannot distinguish reality from the virtual because they grew up with both being indistinguishable with social media.;
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>>388565425
a court may rule against such a thing in the future, who knows. i hope they do.
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>>388565445
>No, you are
No, you are
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>>388565530
>why are leftists incapable of ignoring things they dont like?

Holy fucking shit, this has to be bait. This is a juicy target made of fucking prime steak with a bullseye painted in barbecue sauce.

How are you this incapable of seeing the irony of your own fucking words?
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>Buy a fucking server or entire infrastructure of servers
>Allow people to communicate with your server using specific software as long as they don't behave like fucktards
>A guy behaves like a fucktard
>Mute him from communicating with your shit
>FREEDOM OF SPEECH MEANS YOU CAN'T JUST IGNORE ME
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>>388565578
so google should just be allowed to do all the things it does with its monopoly on search results and speech platforms?

we need to make public and quasi-public speech platforms on the internet protected by the 1st amendment globally. companies can massively expand muting options for the individual user if they so like to "increase sales".
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>>388565530
I don't remember the last time I played an online game that DIDN'T have a mute/ignore button for individual players.

So the issue isn't even about preventing harassment; it's literally just far left totalitarians trying to ban speech they don't like.
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>>388561254
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a leftist cuck
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All you faggots keep going on about how muh toxicity decreases sales but you haven't shown any evidence to support that argument.

From my experience the most popular games also happen to be games that promote shithead behavior by their very design.
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>>388565648
In that case I would just put people who get reported into a server together like Dota does. So /v/ would play with russians and brs for the rest of eternity and my normalfag customer base would keep buying my games.
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>>388565165
>it's still a violation of freedom of speech
once again, it isn't

it's a case of what you're allowed to do on private property, to which is up to the owner's discretion

the plus side is, if the owner is a faggot with faggot policy, the customers flock somewhere where they're not treated like shit
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>>388565530
>it literally does

It literally doesn't, someone being banned from Overwatch for being a cunt is not a violation of freedom of speech. You don't have to accept this but whether you do or don't doesn't matter, no one is listening to you anyway.
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>>388564989
>>388565001
By this logic, you have no problem with game companies banning you from their games entirely for criticizing their game, even on a separate message board or website. Since you know, they're a private company and all.

Protip: You live in an society where it is practically infeasible to express your speech without relying on private entities. Literally the website (and its CDN) you're posting on right now, your internet service provider, the manufacture of the device you're using to post, are all created and controlled by private entities. Aside from fascists, it's in everyone's best interest to allow freedom of expression even on services provided by private institutions, including so called "offensive" speech. Because the alternative will result in political speech you that you advocate being suppressed, whether you want to accept it or not.

Every single "private company" in social media is bloated on government cheese. And that comes with an obligation to behave constitutionally. If any portion of your company's revenue comes from the US government, you don't get to just shit all over the 1st amendment. If you want your company to be able to act as it pleases, then never take a penny of government money, because that has strings attached.
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>Be rude in the game
>Get banned
This is why TF2 will always be superior to hugwatch
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>>388565759
are you denying that leftists have started to massively attack and shut down what used to be websites and/or other platforms that offered freedom to say whatever you liked? this is exactly what's happening

>>388565868
it's still a violation of freedom of speech, please think about what i'm saying

>>388565901
it's hard to argue with people who are literally retarded i guess. just watch out at the ANTIFA rallies, you can get fucked up there cuck
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>>388558803

Comcast, att, century link, dish, verizon, Google fiber, Midco, and literally 98% of all other isp's give static ips and charge extra for a dynamic one.

This has always been the most fucking retarded excuse.
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>>388566002
Yeah getting kicked for killing a "friendly hoovy" is so much better.
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>>388566012
>it's still a violation of freedom of speech
It literally is not.
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>>388557772
you might not be in this thread anymore, but I'm going to call you out anyways
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>lol let's ban people for words guys

pic related is who you're arguing with
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>>388565104
>You are the original one claiming it is another way thus the burden is on you tor prove otherwise.
That's not how burden of proof works. I don't have to "prove otherwise" if I am making the original claim. You just contradicted yourself.

By your logic I can say God is real, and if you originally claim he isn't the burden is on you to prove otherwise.
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>>388565954
>By this logic, you have no problem with game companies banning you from their games entirely for criticizing their game, even on a separate message board or website. Since you know, they're a private company and all.
If it's in ToS and you actually agreed to buy a game from people who treat you like that.

Also holy fuck talk about slippery slope fallacy. Just because the world is progressing and we're relying on private entities to broadcast shit doesn't mean rules of free speech change. You can either make private entities slaves to some additional rules that say that they must broadcast everyone's message regardless of how they actually want to run their business, or make public entities that compete with private entities and are by law supposed to tolerate everything.
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>>388566012
>it's hard to argue with people who are literally retarded i guess.

Such irony, keep crying about your inability to call people nigger in an online game. Not our fault you don't understand freedom of speech kiddo.
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>>388565954
>Every single "private company" in social media is bloated on government cheese
video game companies certainly aren't, not that it fucking matters anyway because freedom of speech is about being allowed to say anything without it being a crime not being banned from a discussion forum
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>>388565954
>By this logic, you have no problem with game companies banning you from their games entirely for criticizing their game, even on a separate message board or website. Since you know, they're a private company and all.

Believe it or not, no. I don't have this issue, not on a legal level at least. People are free to do whatever they like.

However, it means I'll be exercising my freedom of choice taking my business elsewhere and I'm willing to bet so will many others, the company will lose out on lots of money and someone else who isn't a fuckwit offering a similar product gets paid instead.

Oh look at that. They've expressed their freedoms and I've expressed mine. And that's how the world works.
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>not using a vpn in 2017

WAKE UP SHEEPLE!
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>>388566358
>Just because the world is progressing and we're relying on private entities to broadcast shit
Given the increase in censorship, that sounds like the exact opposite of "progress".
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>>388566258
>/r/cringeanarchy
back to le donald with you! XD THESE KEKS
God, I understand the wave against politically correct recently, but that means every depraved person with no tact for social life defends his freedumbs and laughs at le dumb libtard cucks kek
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>>388566494
Technologically we are regardless of any sophistry
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>>388566145
I kill friendly fags on the daily and haven't once gotten kicked. They always sperg out and actually start playing the game trying to kill you and everyone laughs at them.
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>>388566362
>our

who is we?

>>388566412
do you really think it's acceptable for companies that provide public ir quasi-public speech platforms to erode civil liberties on said platforms in an overtly paternalistic manner?

also consider it was not like this before ~2012
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>>388565954
>By this logic, you have no problem with game companies banning you from their games entirely for criticizing their game, even on a separate message board or website. Since you know, they're a private company and all.

They're completely free to do so. Doesn't mean I don't have a problem with it. If a company does that, I'll do my best to make sure people know they do that and I won't buy their product.
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>>388565074
>Go talk to a normal person, they'll be appalled that people tell each other to commit suicide online.
Too bad? People have plenty of tools at their disposal to mute people without companies and governments doing it for them. Trying to normalize the internet and turn it into a safe space is retarded.

>If you want those people to buy your game ( and there are a lot of them ) then people like you need to be muzzled.
Do you have any proof of that? Because I don't see any evidence that muzzling people increases sales, especially when the vast majority of the playerbase takes part in some form of abuse, verbal or otherwise. It's like with twitter, the CEO basically admit they can't ban harassment when 95% of its users are responsible for it.
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>>388564981
>being a decent human is leftist propaganda
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>>388566536
keep #resisting

the Gamergate + DRUMPF alliance has to give up soon comrade
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Is it really that difficult to not be a miserable shithead?
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people who say "trash talk was fine back in the day, people didnt complain" I guarantee are newfag shitstains who are 20 or younger and weren't around back then.

you call it "banter" or "trash talking" but its not, its just you being an insufferable cunt. This didnt happen in old games because:
1. the games took more skill, a shitty player couldn't just blame their team because it was obvious when you're bad
2. servers and server communities. If I was in a game with pricks, I could leave it. In new games you're not allowed to quit matches.
3.new games are all team based and filled with random elements, new games make every player think they're good, like how in overwatch you can press q to win. Or in LoL the game constantly sucks your dick and makes you feel like a pro because you just got a double kill by pressing 1 button with no aim.

in conclusion: dumbed down games + forced teamwork + games appealing to every trash tier normie + random matchmaking = shitty banter

nu-competitive gaming is basically a "blame your team simulator"
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>>388566656
Why would a corporation put all these resources into this shit if they weren't fairly sure it would increase their profits?

>>388566627
My buddy got temp banned from WoW in like 2006 for saying nigger once.
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>>388566698
You're not a decent human being. You're a totalitarian fascist.
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>>388566787
is it really that difficult to respect freedom of speech?
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>>388557039
>being so poor you dont have your own dedicated line for internet and cable

I could be in hurricane harvy and I'd still have perfect 1gb up and down for all my autistic gaming and business needs

Games don't belong to poors like you
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>>388550060
>over 2000 complaints
That has to be conscious effort to fuck with people, and lots of it.
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>>388566627
The company has the right to do what they want. I have the right to do what I want. You have the right to do what you want.

If they're gonna censor shit, that's legally fine and in their rights. I'll make my own decisions on whether to give them money or not, usually taking that censorship into account. If it's still worth it, I'll buy, if not, I'll go somewhere else less censored.
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>>388565954
>you have no problem with game companies banning you from their games entirely for criticizing their game
yes, they can do that and no one will want to play their shitty game

>literally the website you're posting on right now
yes

people get banned for shitposting all the time, they don't cry free speech when they get banned from fucking 4chan

>your internet service provider
should be classified as a public utility and must be subject to act like one


>>388566012
>it's still a violation of freedom of speech
I'm thinking very much about what you're saying and it isn't. Freedom of association exists too, you know. As in, the freedom to not associate with people you don't like. Just as consumers have a choice to not associate with a private business, so should a private business have the right to refuse their services to anyone.
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>>388566627
>do you really think it's acceptable for companies that provide public ir quasi-public speech platforms to erode civil liberties on said platforms
you're a fucking retard
if private companies don't allow you to do something you like with their service, make your own service
that's how the free market works
don't try to blur the line by saying things like "quasi-public"
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>"haha fucking niggerfaggot kill yourself haha"
>"why are you so mad it's just friendly banter haha"
>"can't handle the bantz haha what a faggot"

I hate these people, it's not banter it's called being a fucking dickbag.
Friendly banter only ever really forms after you've known someone for a while long enough to know they don't mean it. But if you just met someone and start "laying down your sick bantz" you're a fucking retard and deserve to be banned/muted/whatever from an online game.

If you wouldn't say it to someone in person, don't do it online. And if you would do both you're still an asshole. A cocky asshole, but an asshole nonetheless.
That's why I stopped joining /v/ guilds in games. No one ever tries to help you or give you advice when you fuck up, they just call you a retard and flame you whenever you say something or log in.
Had to leave my static in FFXIV because of someone like that.
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>>388566787

Seems like it

>>388566865

>Freedom of speech
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>>388561503
>illegal language
wew

>shitposting in in-game chat is enough to gat you banned now
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>>388566723
>look at these stupid looking people
>I bet all their worldviews are unfounded and anything they defend is inherently wrong and they are probably commies
Sad!
Like I said, back to le donald safespace friend
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>>388550060
>If you want to spread rumors that bans are automated you should do so on Reddit and 4chan where they cannot check your IP.
But then, if people know this, then why trust any rumours that are spread on reddit or 4chan?
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>>388566412
TOS have never been a magical key to illegality. If I put in blatantly illegal language in a TOS, the entire document is invalid. Even if it is not, it is up to a judge to decide if it's enforceable at all.
Consumer laws still exist, and vary by state and country.

>>388566646
>Doesn't mean I don't have a problem with it. If a company does that, I'll do my best to make sure people know they do that
No, you don't get to complain. As anon said, they're expressing their freedoms so you can't criticize them because they are infallible.
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>>388557039
>it does affect you, and tolerating it and encouraging it is cancer. its toxic abuse of position of authority

It's like this guy doesn't read the terms he specifically agrees to. Remember, kids. It might be fast to hit "I Agree", but don't be surprised when you end up this mad.
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>>388566923
freedom of association does not enter into the equation you unending retard jesus christ. it is literally a violation of freedom of speech when you are shut down for saying something. this can be ANY word(s), no matter how offensive you deem it. it's STILL a violation of freedom of speech you fucking mongoloid.

>>388566939
>lol dude make your own google xd make your own billion dollar overwatch rofl

we should treat chat services as separate entities from the game

>>388567023
the 1st amendment has nothing to do with the violation of freedom of speech that is occurring in that comic

>>388567050
yeah i bet they love freedom of speech lol
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>>388567043
Being an obnoxious faggot has always gotten you banned.
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>>388566865
It's clear you have difficulty even knowing what free speech is, it's a restriction on government ONLY. Your mean video game companies are not part of that, hence they have the right to ban you.
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>>388566864
No, that's you.
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Reminder that this act is considered freedom of speech by the people in this thread.
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>>388567294
we're talking about the principle of freedom of speech. are you not good at following conversations?
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>>388565294
Except the "rights" for freedom of speech only apply to places the government owns .. from the government to kick you out of it.
I can create a forum with a general section in it, hosted on US soil and with totally absurd, arbitrary rules like
>can't talk about cheerio
>if you check the "sex : other" box, you are IP ban for life
>i can ban anyone at any time for no reason, fuck you, my server
.. and zero rights would be violated.

And if the contract you have signed with a company selling you a service is telling that you can't behave like a retard and being an obnoxious shit to everyone else .. and yet you do exactly that .. well guess who's at fault here. These rules are created so the game SELLS and keep SELLING instead of having the label "oh yeah that game where you are called a cum guzzler negro for not doing what the self proclaimed team leader asks" .. with a PEGI 12 rating. Not mom-appealing.

And it's not like it's an immediate ban either, in OP's pic, that guy accumulated so many warnings and yet managed to keep acting like a fucking idiot. I can only see logic in their decision here .. i even find them soft for acting this late.
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>>388564790
>People can sell out
ftfy
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>>388567023
see >>388565954
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>>388565001
>Like, it's perfectly in your right to to wear a sandwich board that says 'I HATE NIGGERS' in Harlem. But don't think you won't get the shit beaten out of you as a result.
Except saying something like that IS A RIGHT. Beating someone up for disliking what they said IS NOT A RIGHT AND IS ACTUALLY ILLEGAL. Is it really that hard to understand?
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>>388567269
I'm pretty sure you're trolling the whole thread, well done.
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>>388567218
Just because I get banned on their forums or from their game for criticizing them doesn't mean I can't criticize them, period. There are other outlets.

The dangers of banning people for things like that is that it legitimizes the criticism too. When people hear that someone got banned for complaining about an aspect of the game, they will take that complaint to heart, because why the fuck else would they get banned for it?
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>>388567218
Then why the fuck are you here? Take this up to court and let the fucking judges decide already.

I'm out, I could be playing Hearthstone instead of listening to this bullshit.
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>>388566627
If you don't think it's acceptable then don't use their service, problem solved. That's how the free market works. If somebody gives a company money and then violates their ToS then it's on them. Don't use them in the first place if you know they're heavy handed on what you can and cannot say. If I don't think a companies behaviour is acceptable I don't use said company, simple.
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>>388567367
it's a violation of freedom of speech if you ban or otherwise punish somebody for the things they say. case closed.
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>>388567269
Stop violating my freedom of speech by disagreeing with me you dirty communist
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>>388550060
Why do nu-shittalkers outright deny they are shittalking? These castrated kids can't use to their craft completely takes away any impact of it. It just makes the guy look like a retard who got caught because they weren't clever enough.
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>>388567517
I'm not taking away your right to speak or reply like Blizzard would. That would be a freedom of speech violation.
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>ITT a dumb /pol/tards don't understand what free speech is and conflate being banned for being a faggot in games and calling people niggers with muh librals.
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>>388565812
Again, not related to freedom of speech.
Not my fault if you're too retarded to connect the dots.
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>>388567403
Punching Nazis should be a right desu
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>>388566940
I don't care about the shit talk, I care about how unoriginal and meme laden it is. Look at this shit. This was someone mad back in like 2006 or something. These days that guy would just be spamming memes like an unoriginal cunt.
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>>388566358
I know that you're probably so used to seeing the phrases "slippery slope" and "fallacy" together that your autistic brain has simply bypassed considering what makes some slippery slope arguments logically unsound, but slippery slope arguments are only slippery slope fallacies if there's insufficient evidence to support the likelihood of the slippery slope.

For example, back when DLC was becoming big, some people posed a slippery slope argument saying "This is too exploitable. If you buy it, devs are going to start cutting out pieces of the game and selling it back to you." Was that a fallacy?

To say that many of the people who are pulling the strings would love nothing more than to remove any content that might offend Bible thumpers, overprotective parents, feminists, and all of the other moral guardian groups that we have stomping around is hardly so unfounded as to call it a fallacy.
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>>388567269
http://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/what-does
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>>388567403
>>388565189
>>388565165
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences.
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>>388567483
So let me get this straight, assuming you'd get banned for posting /pol/shit on /v/, it would violate your freedom of speech as well?
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>>388567483
>>388567517
>agree to an online game's ToS that say no abusive language, shittalking, or racism.
>get banned when you violate it
>claim your right to free speech has been violated
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>>388567526
'cause there are legit people on /v/ and the net at large who think yelling and insulting people is akin to good shit talk.Wit is dead.
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>>388565625
>It does not mean private businesses can't throw your ass out if they don't like what you have to say.
Businesses should have to respect freedom of speech as well. They shouldn't be able to do whatever they want. By your logic, it should be perfectly reasonable to refuse someone services because they're black, you hypocrite. I mean, it's a private business, so why shouldn't they have that right?
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>>388567712
Wit is dead and /v/ killed it.
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>>388567651
The guy who punched him is going to get raped in prison for real.

No one likes "Antifa" faggots (communists). Certainly not the white gangs, and the nigger gangs don't give a shit about whitey.
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>>388566392
>video game companies certainly aren't,
Microsoft, EA and ActiBlizz all get tax breaks from the US government.
>freedom of speech is about being allowed to say anything without it being a crime not being banned from a discussion forum
Freedom of speech is more than just a law, it's an ideal unto itself. The argument that private entities can't violate your freedom of speech and only the government can is a fallacy.
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>>388567407
He definitely is, no one can be this much of a sweating retard
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It's because in new games, they all usr matchmaking instead of servers, you're not allowed to quit games or you get punished

Toxic players feed off of this, they know you're trapped in the game and can't leave it, that's why MOBA games are so toxic. People back in TF2 for example wouldn't go to the effort of bullying a player because it takes 3 seconds to leave the game and join a new one with no penalty.
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>>388567606
it is related to free speech as google is shutting down speech of viewpoints it doesnt like- censorship

>>388567641
>>388567651
>>388567665
>>388567686

we're talking about the principle of freedom of speech, please follow along more carefully.
if you are punished for anything you say that is not illegal, that is literally a violation of freedom of speech.
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sjw dev publicly shaming people to be nice lol banned for not playing meta
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>>388567770

And you think people like Nazis?
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>>388567354
Isn't that property damage
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>>388567770
>we dont like communists but we sure love fascists
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>>388567269
>freedom of association does not enter into the equation
It does in the case of being on private property and saying things the owner of that property doesn't like.

I'm actually on your side as far as globally banning people from servers goes for pretty much anything outside of actually hacking. I don't like it, but the very readily apparent solution is to just not support a company that would employ such shitty policy. Thankfully, I'm not stupid enough to buy overwatch or blizzard products in general.
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>>388567770
>Thinking the upstanding citizen who punched the nazi was found, or even charged.
You /pol/ moralfags are really something.
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>>388567889
Ok, you're either legitimately retarded or le master ruseman.
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>>388567269
you have to be baiting because I refuse to believe I share a planet with someone this retarded.
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>>388567889
I hate to say it but that happens everywhere. If you say shit people don't like they'll shun you. Stores will kick you out. etc.
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>>388565954
Yeah sure. Private companies should be private unless they use federal or state property. Someone like Blizzard should be able to whoever from their servers, but Comcast should suck my dick since their infrastructure has been built on my and public property.
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>>388567651
Lol what a fucking nu-male pussy
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>>388567768
Note that people are getting banned for their actions, not for their state of being.

If a nigger comes into my store and acts like a fucking nigger, I have a right to throw him out. If he comes in and acts like a normal customer, I have no reason to.
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>>388564146
NO FUN ALLOWED GUYZ THIS IS A SERIOUS GAME FOR SERIOUS PEOPLE ONLY.
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>>388567417
Why the fuck are you here? To defend game companies like the corporate apologist you are?

>I'm out, I could be playing Blizzard's F2P bullshit instead of listening to someone talk sense.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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>>388567230
>neogaf cuck comes in to defend cancer
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>>388567975
is being on somebody's server really being on their property? it's more like being in a public square speaking to other people at random in most games
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>>388567632
I can call it slippery slope because there is no real argument for it besides you saying that sometimes slopes are slippery.

It's much more slippery if you decide that private companies should always be ready to accept any government intervention about how they run their business.
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>>388567983
m8 would it really surprise you to learn the police are on the side of the fash
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>>388555303
>People still think Blizzard is SJW

But they are

It's why Pardo left
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>>388568059
stores are not video games shithead, how many times does this need to be reiterated to you
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>>388567951
Isn't hacking a game and calling it freedom of speech the same thing?
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>>388567889
You make an excellent case for violating free speech.
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>>388568097
>Talk sense
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*breathes in*
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>388568123
>is being on somebody's server really being on their property?
If they're paying money to host it then fucking absolutely.
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>>388568212
>we're talking about the principle of freedom of speech, please follow along more carefully.
>if you are punished for anything you say that is not illegal, that is literally a violation of freedom of speech.

That was a very general statement. Life is full of situations that punish you for expressing your opinion.

Explain why using someone's servers is different from using their theater or their store.
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>>388567936
Well, to be fair, they do in prison.
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>>388568252
What are you talking about?
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>ITT Dumb babies cry because they didn't know they had to follow the ToS.
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>>388568123
Wrong. When it comes to internet infrastructure the correct analogy is always someone deciding they've had enough of broadcasting your shit around.

They are literally denying you a service.
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>>388567367
We're not talking about the 1st amendment, we're talking about freedom of speech. The other guy is correct, it's still a violation of freedom of speech.

The speech you hate the most is the most in need of protection.
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>>388568253
you make an excellent case for not making an argument

>>388568310
but the player pays blizzard to pay for the servers
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>>388558373
> buy knife
> stab people with it
> cops take knife
> "THAT KNIFE IS MINE, I PAID FOR IT, I'M ENTITLED TO BE ABLE TO STAB PEOPLE"
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Blame it on your trans gendered alter ego.
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>>388567354
reminder that this isn't videogames and you should leave
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>>388568140
yes thats called law you retard
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>ITT: Buttblasted fired Shareblue "Right to Censor" shills still trying to push their anti-liberty agenda

pathetic subhumans
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>>388568412
Well, /v/ is shit, /v/ could benefit from more moderation, moderation is violation of free speech, ergo, fuck free speech. When everything is free speech then we really need to stop upholding free speech as intrinsically good. At this point it's just empty virtue signalling.
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>>388568463
Stop infringing on their free speech.
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>>388567354
No, that's vandalism.
Were they ever arrested for that?
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>>388550060
>Reddit and 4Chan where they cannot check your IP

Nigger are you retarded
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>>388568571
nah /v/ is much better when autistic leftists are told to fuck off and shitposted to death with dubs
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>>388568543
Do you get this butthurt when you get banned for posting porn on a blue board as well? Surely that too is a violation of your freedom of expression.
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>ITT dumb SJWs and Blizzdrones don't understand what free speech is and literally conflate shouting nigger at people in a movie theater or at a coffee shop with being a faggot online because they're paternalizing liberals who blame everything on muh /pol/tards
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>>388558373
>violate the agreement you sign to play the game
>get mad when you get banned
Read the fucking ToS next time.
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>>388567686
Abusive language, shittalking, or racism shouldn't be bannable in the first place. Laws shouldn't be followed if they're inherently unfair or nonsensical.
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>>388550060

>2250 complaints
>worst offending account we've seen
>3 suspensions

Motherfucking 3 bans? See, that's what I always tell people who cry "Report xyz, plz":

It doesn't do shit.
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>>388568486
Yes a law that infringes on your freedom not to do things you don't like

Censorship can also be in a form of a law
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>>388567354
Why does america celebrate traitors that tried to steal their land? I can't think of another situation where someone rebels, gets smashed, then keeps their shit up everywhere.
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>>388568649
well technically it is but i'm not interested in that as i feel it's not stomping on a fundamental liberty that is vital for humanity to grow
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>>388568086
But you still can't throw them out just for being black. So why should you be able to throw someone out for flamming/shittalking? Especially when you can easily mute them...
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>>388561790
What games do you play, prime Alex?
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/v/ could benefit from more moderation, moderation is violation of free speech, ergo, fuck free speech. When everything is free speech then we really need to stop upholding free speech as intrinsically good. At this point it's just empty virtue signalling.

/v/ could benefit from less anonymity, ergo, fuck anonymous posting. When everything is anonymous on 4chan then we really need to stop upholding anonymity on 4chan as intrinsically good. At this point it's just empty virtue signalling.

>this is nu /v/
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>>388568617
Here's the line of people who went to turn themselves for destroying the idolatry of treason
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>>388568863
Because flaming and shittalking are conscious actions, something you can stop doing at any point. A black person can't suddenly just stop being black on the spot.
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>>388563384
>letting sex run your life
thats literally him being a slave to his dick
absolute faggot behavior
barely human
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>>388568863
Not him, jackass, but you have no choice whether you're back. You have a choice of what you say, faggot. Is your brain to small to understand this?
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>>388568804
Why do you feel you have the right to other people's servers. Sounds like you're asking for handouts.
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>>388568708
A contract (the Terms of Service) you sign with a company is not a law.
Blizzard isn't banning you because being an obnoxious cunt is illegal, they're banning you because by being an obnoxious cunt you're violating the contract you signed with them.
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>>388568924
Do you want peace and tyranny.
Or freedom and anarchy?

Those are the two choices you get and it's not even slightly hyperbolic when it comes to 4chan's moderation team.
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>>388568543
What else can you expect from retarded leftcucks? Honestly, it disgusts me to see how much nu-/v/ hates the freedom of speech and loves censorship.
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>>388568648
That's censorship you cuck
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lol. I know this is ironic but some of y'all really need to get out more if you conflate someone being banned from an online game for being an asshole with freedom of speech. Should I not be banned from a real life establishment if I suddenly start insulting everyone and yelling obscenities?
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>>388568405
Freedom of speech, globally, as a human right rather by the constitution has strictly zero weight in private properties and businesses.
That is all.
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>>388559301
actually it does pumpkin.
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>>388569048
when I pay to play the game I expect I can access the server to play the game. are you stupid?

>>388569103
leftists should be censored out of existence tbqh
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>>388569127
Internet is not real life, real life is not internet. Nobody should be able to limit what people say on internet.
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>>388569048
Because he's paying for those servers to operate by making the mistake of purchasing Overwatch.
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>>388568804
Ah yes, the fundamental liberty to call people niggers when they headshot you for the third time. The classic argument for the freedom of speech. Whre would humanity be without it.
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Holy shit. I hope people are trolling because this is legit one of the dumbest threads I've read in a long time.
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>>388568804
So in your perfect world, should some autist be allowed to come into your home and shout obscenities at you for hours on end?

If you throw him out, you're violating his freedom of expression, after all.
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>>388555869
>stop pretending blizzard is anything but activision lite
They aren't Activision Lite, they're literally Activision.
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>>388569242
That's not part of the deal to be honest. When you buy the game you're only ever allowed on the server at their discretion. If you have an issue with that don't buy the game. How can you consider yourself right wing but not support company right in any way?

>>388569292
He's paying to access them under the conditions the operator stipulates.
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>>388560050
>buy a new motherboard
what
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>>388569360
Because you're a jackass. There are far worse threads.
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>>388559090
It's their game. They can ban people for whatever reason they want.
Free speech just means that you can't be arrested for what you say, unless you're directly threatening someone
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>>388569360
You can't help it, libtards just are that retarded.
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If habbo was now we would have 10 threads complaining about unfair bans

Unironically
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>>388569268
>nobody should be able to limit what people say on internet
except for anyone privately hosting anything
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>>388569190
Then you don't understand the importance of freedom of speech as a concept itself. Why do you think the very first amendment this country made dealt with its protection? It came even before firearms.
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>>388561591
>implying they actually looked it up and aren't making it up because their fans will eat up anything they say
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>>388569242
Yeah but in reality you fucks are censored out of video games ;^)
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>>388569420
Because poltards are just as dumb and hypocritical as the liberals they hate so much. Everything is fair games until their fee fees are hurt.
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>>388569438
>Free speech just means that you can't be arrested for what you say
No, that's what the 1st amendment means.
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>>388561941
Or they could just play a game by literally any other developer where you won't be banned for sneezing in somebody's general direction. The overmoderation of Overwatch is ridiculous.
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>>388569485
>Why do you think the very first amendment this country made dealt with its protection?
I dunno, probably because the founding father were ever so slightly retarded, seeing as the next thing they came up with was firearms.
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>>388569339
it literally is a cornerstone liberty of the West to be able to do that. to say otherwise is to reveal your lack of education.

>>388569372
a home is not a public speech platform on the internet

>>388569420
>you're only allowed to play the game at their discretion

wew

>>388569438
if they ban you for something they say, that is a violation of freedom of speech.

>>388569519
they tried to censor us out of the election too but... ;^)
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>>388569479
More like people crying about freedom of speech to close pools.

/pol/ was a mistake.
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>>388569670
>a home is not a public speech platform on the internet

And neither is a privately owned game.
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Daily reminder that only redditors will defend any company banning people for "offensive chat". Bans should be exclusively for people who grief or cheat.
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>>388569668
>faggot believes we shouldn't be able to defend ourselves
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>>388569670
>more people live in the Clinton Archipelago than all of Trumpland
>>
Reading this thread makes me wish that every censorship-loving libcuck would be shot in the back of their head and left to rot in a ditch.
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>>388569485
If someone comes into your house, by your invitation, and starts acting like an obnoxious cunt, you have every right to throw them out and not violate their freedoms in any way in the process.
The game servers are a privately owned virtual space.
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>>388569725
>Bans should be exclusively for people who grief or cheat.
Stop infringing on my right to have fun redditor.

If the game allows it, it should not be punished.
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>>388560243
People actually do this? What a real loser.
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>>388569670
>it literally is a cornerstone liberty of the West to be able to do that. to say otherwise is to reveal your lack of education.
You've just revealed yours, so nah
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>>388569725
It's not a matter of defending their actions, it's about defending their rights to their actions.

I don't agree with this trend of being overly sensitive to shit talking and flaming, but companies are well within their rights to ban it, just as we are within our rights to not buy their shit if they do.
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>>388569485
the anti-gun lefty retard is actually right in this case

there are property rights
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>>388569670
wew is not a response. Do you understand actual conservative values?

>>388569548
I just don't get why they're mocking the left while begging for government intervention. Conservativism is about less government fuckery not more. Vote with your money.
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>>388569805
>games are real life
Why do you keep making these shitty metaphors?
Video games are not real life.
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>>388569805
Nuh uh. My mommy bought me this game after I got all Cs this semester and I deserve to act however I choose cuz it's my game.

>>388569801
Looks pa. I can say the cool words too.
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>>388558373
>go to a ball game
>start pissing in people's drink
>call the batter a nigger
>get thrown out and banned from the stadium
>WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW I PAID FOR MY TICKET I SHOULD ENJOY THE GAME ANY WAY I WANT
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>>388569801
That's censorship, Anon.
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>>388569715
the communication you have with other players in a privately owned game is public or quasi-public, though, so it should be treated by the law as such
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>>388569937
>interacting with other people on the internet is not real life
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>>388550060
holy fucking kek sticky this shit
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>>388569725
That's the the ops image was banned for though.
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Do you think the people defending Blizzard are actual Blizzard employees, or just numales?
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>>388569934
>Conservativism is about less government fuckery not more.
Gotta love this dumb American meme
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>>388570094
Nu-male leftist cucks.
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>>388569805
if you throw somebody out for something they say you are actually violating their freedom of speech. this is not disputable
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>>388569907
It's almost like entities that host servers have the ability to decide what's appropriate or not in their virtual space. It's almost like there aren't OTHER games with OTHER servers where people may not mind trash talk. I think a lot of this could be fixed by blizz allowing people to host their own private servers but you faggots will just complain after being kicked from those too. It's almost like the issue isn't trash talk or flaming and your shitty personalities and how you present yourselves.
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>>388570109
Gotta love these Eurocucks.
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>>388569937
because being in a privately hosted server versus being on the property of a privately owned business is actually a reasonable comparison
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>>388570094
>Hypocrisy and deflection: the image
/pol/ are objectively and verifiably the largest, least assimilated bunch of meme-spouting easily triggered paranoid newfag redditors around.
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>>388570140
>if you throw someone out of your private property you are violating their freedom of speech
You aren't.
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>>388570190
You might have replied to the wrong person, or merely have poor reading comprehension.
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>>388569824
>>388569907


Griefing results in actions that change the outcome of the game, same as cheating. Writing shit in chat or talking shit over voice doesn't and there is also a MUTE button.
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>>388570140
>UH ACKSHULLY IT ONLY PROTECTS YOU FROM THE GOVERNMENT PRIVATE COMPANIES CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT :)
>*privatizes literally everything*
>Oh, and you better bake that fucking cake.
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>>388570025
It's not.

Do you unironically go "I hung out with my friends today!" when all you've done is sit in your room playing Overeddit reporting bad words?
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>>388570268
you are literally violating their freedom of speech if they say something and you throw them out
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>>388569670
It's a cornerstone of the liberty of the west to ban Trump supporters from online videogames. Saying otherwise is denying freedom of association. I hope in the future companies just do this preemptively using voter rolls.

And that map is fake news.
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>>388570321
>Oh, and you better bake that fucking cake.

1960s civil rights were a mistake

everything else is ok tho
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>>388570384
You're not preventing them from saying what they want.
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>>388570245
It's rare to see this much projection in one post.

No one's talking about /pol/ but you.
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>>388569485
What you don't understand is that the law, the rights and rules of conduct cannot contradict themselves.
For the same reason, you can't enter my property against my will (trespassing) and decide to picket against abortions there. If it was a public place, trying to kick you out is a violation of your rights (freedom of speech) but since it's not and depending on the country i'm in, i can kick you out myself, use force if necessary, call the cops to do that or straight up shoot you in the face.

Servers from private businesses are private property and treated the same way. Their rules of conduct are usually lenient (you can trash talk .. up to a point, i'm a trashtalker myself even on blizzard servers) but as soon as someone's conduct is deemed to be roughly "disruptive" and way too often, they can just mute you for a while up to ban you permanently.
They could even ban you ON THE SPOT for it, yet they CHOSE to be lenient and deal with this bullshit.

And i don't understand why complete shit talkers can't wrap their heads around this fucking thing.
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>>388570481
Shut up, bigot.
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>>388570321
>*privatizes literally everything*
Yeah, fucking Reagan, man.
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>>388570384
Go be a nigger somewhere else.
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>>388570384
nah, they're free to say it in public, just not on your privately owned property
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>>388569076
Well, yeah that's true. But should they have the right to make a contract where they forbid you from being and obnoxious cunt? Shouldn't your freedom to be an obnoxious cunt be inviolable by anything, including contracts?
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>>388570489
>>388570673
>>388570693
still violating freedom of speech, libturds :)
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>>388570516
>It's rare to see this much projection in one post.
Yeah, isn't it? And yet >>388570094 there's such a massive list of it. It even mentions /pol/ for no other reason than it imagines anyone who disagrees with /pol/ is obsessed with /pol/.
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>>388558326
Happened to me once. Then the state just remodeled the prison into a university.
>>
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>>388550250
go home alex you ruined omochi's pussy
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>>388570419
that map is actually reality, sorry you're not with us
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>>388570747
Once again you're making the worst case for freedom of speech

Like if a natural consequence of freedom of speech was, for example, that a pack of AIDS-ridden niggers gets to poz your boipussi then maybe a devout freedom of speech advocate would accept those consequences... but you'd at least expect him to keep it to himself when extolling the virtues of free speech
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>>388570728
Yes, they should.
Because Blizzard is a private entity that owns the servers it hosts its service on.
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>>388569725
Daily reminder that this is /v/ and not poltard crying about the kikes hovering above us all and polluting drinking water to turn the frogs gay.
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>>388570747
I'm highly conservative and it's a matter of principle.

I think you should be able to deny service to literal faggots for them simply being faggots too, if it makes you feel better.
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>>388569103
It's not. If you someone is saying something and you're blowing a whistle over them to make them unheard, that's not censorship. Censorship would be denying them the right to speak/write/express an idea in the first place and/or altering/cutting-out their original message.
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>>388570809
Behold, the value of free speech
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>>388570840
American counties are not circular and they don't have rounded edges. The map is an embarrassing, false attempt to deflect from the fact that Americans in general voted for Democrats in 2016.
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>>388571026
>If you someone is saying something and you're blowing a whistle over them to make them unheard, that's not censorship.
So is bleeping out curse words not censorship? Or is it actually one of the go-to examples of censorship any child can think of? Think carefully.
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>>388566145
You have never touched tf2 have you?
The friendly hoovy is the one that usually gets kicked for being basically useless.
You will get kicked if the majority of the server is friendly though because you are no longer messing with one person, but a whole community.
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>>388570930
i'm not a devout free speech advocate... you seem to really misunderstand the whole issue- stopping someone from speaking is a violation of free speech, simple as that.

>>388571016
you're leftypol niger
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>>388571294
And that inevitably means that free speech cannot and should not be absolute.
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>>388571294
And you're not stopping anyone from speaking by throwing them out of your privately owned property.
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>>388570094
They're fanboys. Their love for Blizzard is pure!
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