Sonic Mania is 1/3 of a game.

>>388522526
>t. Adventurecuck
stay salty

>>388522526
>1/3 of a game
What did you mean by this

>>388522591
OP here. Sonic sucks in everything except 2D. Everyone should know this by now.

>>388522526
>one third of a game
>one third of a retail game price
>complaining about it

>>388522526
Doesn't it have original content though?

OP here, please not Im actual autistic and please be gentle with my butt guys. Sonic is serious bizness

>>388522984
Only 4 of the stages are original. The other 8 are "reimaginings." Basically that makes that everyone wanted to be lazy and recycle levels and ideas from games over 20 years old.
Real GOTY here guys.

>>388523110
You're telling me you'd be retarded enough to pay $60 for this?

>>388523257
So if they used a differemt tile set, you wouldnt be complaining.

>1/3 of a game
But Mania is twice as long as Sonic 3?

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OP is retarded, nothing to see here

>We all deserve better than this.
you don't deserve anything fag. It's a fucking product. You like it you buy it.

>>388523257
>>388522526
To call it 1/3rd of a game is digingenuous at best

The act 2's for all of the old zones are literally brand new levels with brand-new gimmicks/gameplay/layouts/remixes just set in a familiar locale, with the exception of Hydrocity where the Act 1 is the brand new level. Even in the Act 1's which are familiar, there are double the amount of routes than there were in the original games, meaning even they can't really be called "lazy". If you actually scanned through the level layouts and the contents of the game, about 20-25% of it would be straight-ripped from the Genesis titles, not two-thirds.

If you honestly think the likes of CPZ Act 2 or OOZ Act 2 are "lazy and recycled", you're either too autistic to see past some recycled level tiles, or you're intentionally being moronic in order to paint the game as worse than it is.

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Why do autistic kids like Sonic so much? Real question. I work at an elementary school and one of yhe special ed kids (autistic) was talking a out how much he loves Sonic. What about Sonic draws autists to this franchise?

>>388522526
>Sonic Mania is 1/3 of a game
>Sonic Mania is 1/3 the price of a game

Welp, it works out, I guess, by OP's logic.

>>388523345
Different title sets, level design, enemies, music, etc. Something unique to the actual game aside from an added mechanic. My question is why you're defending this? Why do you want to settle for second best?

>>388523560
>Different title sets, level design, enemies, music, etc
So you haven't actually played it? Because pretty much every single old zone DOES have different level design, new (and remixed) enemies, a new music remix, new level mechanics and so on.

>>388522526
>>388523560
>its another autist on /v bashes a game they never played episode
Pretending to be retarded is still retarded.

>>388523506
How many times are you fags gonna ask this question

-Simple easy to replicate design
-Large expressive eyes and simple but obvious facial expressions
-Black and White moral universe
-Media penetration

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>>388523329
where does his post imply that?

>>388522526
>Average price for a game is 60$
>1/3rd of a game is not worth 20$ which is 1/3rd of 60$
What did OP mean by this?

>>388523670
>remix
>remixed
This is the thing I'm talking about. When I say "new" I mean brand new. Is that really too much to ask?

>>388523487
If they announced Sonic Mania 2 would you rather have a game with 12 new stages or 12 "remixed" classic stages. Wrapping your head around this concept shouldn't be this hard for you.

>>388523915
>>388524085
Learn to read the actual thread.

>3 hour game
>contains everything necessary to be a good 2D sonic game
>$20 is too much

Nigga the original sonic carts cost $60 in 1991 and sonic was an hour long game what are you talking about?

>>388524132
>If they announced Sonic Mania 2 would you rather have a game with 12 new stages or 12 "remixed" classic stages
Neither, I'd like them to keep the classic stages but in a smaller ratio. 8 new zones to 4 old zones, instead of the other way around. The revisits were some of the best moments in the game, but I do admit there were too many revisits.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, although there were too many revisits, they are so heavily remixed that I still think you're a retard for looking at the game and thinking it's "only 1/3rd of a game" because that is untrue in every way.

>liking Sonic at all

>>388524132
No, youre are complaining about tile sets used. What you want to say is that 4 out of the 24ish zones are 1:1 while the rest are all original. Hell even in most of the Act 1 zones of the old zones add a couple new shit that wasnt in the old zones. By you posts you seem underage or extremely retarded to make it a solid argument point, when its a rom hack tier. And I miss the fucking days when we would trade or talk about rom hacks here.

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>>388522526
>PCFat THIS mad that he hasn't played the game yet and his late PC version will have Denuvo
lol

>1/3 price
>twice the length of average Sonic game
>Blue spheres stages and Catch the UFO are dope
>unlockable bizarro Blue Sphere levels
>Knuckles has unique stages and bosses
Pretty good value, I've already put 25 hours in.

>>388522526
just buy it with bitcoin for free nibba, what is wrong with you

>Sonic 3 cost $110 adjusted for inflation
>Had 6 levels
>Sonic and Knuckles cost $130 adjusted for inflation
>Had 7 levels

So Sonic Mania has the same number of levels as Sonic 3&K but costs $20 instead of $240

>>388524417
A admit that the remix levels add something new to the table, but I think we need to be harsher about shit like this. I don't want to see it become a trend to "remix" existing ideas over and over again. As good as the class Sonic games are I can only play a certain zone so many times before toning out any redeeming qualities it may have. That's how I felt a lot of the time with Sonic Mania.

$40-$60 would be overpriced, but for its replayability and unlocks I'd say it's a pretty fair price

>>388522526
$20 is TOO much
neet detected. Get a job. $20 is like the perfect price for this game

you guys wouldn't really pay this much of the game?

20 is great but it would be game of the year at 15.

Game isn't even out yet unless you're a console kiddie

>>388522526
>Of the 25 acts in the game, only around 7 of them are actually similar (and still not identical) to pre-existing acts
>7 all-new Special Stages
>Of the 27 bosses in the game, 9 of them are recycled/similar to old content, except one of those 9 is from a Game Gear game and one of those 9 is Mean Bean Machine so you could arguably let those two pass on creativity of source material alone
>Of the 32 Blue Sphere zones, 16 are new and 16 are old. There is also a random generator for the Blue Sphere 2 mode which has new sphere styles etc
Take these numbers and use them as you wish. I'm not arguing for or against Mania, but "only 1/3rd of a game" is dead wrong

>>388522526
>game already came out
>sold well
>people fucking loved it
>is about to come out again
>people are going to love it all over again
Have fun stomping your feet and telling people to stop having fun tomorrow.

>>388524776
We're lucky that Sega wised up at all and brought Taxman and Co. on to do Mania, it's understandable that they wouldn't let them go too crazy with new zones and things. Mania was just to see if they could handle making a real Sonic game. The only question is how is Sega gonna react when Forces flops? That a group of fans (albeit very talented ones) made a better Sonic game than they could ever hope to make in this day and age?

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>Bought it on ps4
>Gonna buy it again on PC
>Will do so a 3rd time when I get a switch

>>388526050
Don't forget there are also new features like debug mode and & Knuckles mode, as well as a time attack mode.

>>388522526
I got it for 9€ on the russian eShop, I don't even like Sonic that much and it was worth it, get fucked turbonerd.

>>388523257
Wait, does this game really only have 12 levels?

>>388526394
>debug mode
>new
This your first classic Sonic game champ?

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>>388522526
>fantastic games are killing the industry

>>388526394
>debug
I don't think that worked very well, hoss

>>388526394
>debug mode
>new feature

It's been a thing since S1

>>388524709

I don't need to look up how the value of the dollar has changed in the last 20 years to know Sonic and knuckles didn't cost the equivilant of 130 dollars. That's fucking stupid. None of us would have had any games growing up if that was the case.

>>388526423
The game has 12 "zones", which each have 2 levels inside of them. So 24 really, except Knuckles also gets an exclusive level, so 25. 26 if you want to count the final boss level but that's a stretch.

As far as Sonic games go, that's pretty big.

>>388522984
Every Sonic game needs to have no fewer than 36 zones with 2 acts each.

Is Tails the best character option for someone who hasn't played much classic Sonic, like how he was the easiest to use in Adventure?

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Does Mania have title screen cheat codes, and does it have Super Sonic?

If the answer to either of these is no its a shit sonic game.

>>388526645
Sonic and Tails are, you get to control Tails now as 1P.

>>388526731
Great.

Since no one here posted it? This is what OP is referencing for the shitpost.

https://truesonicspirit.deviantart.com/journal/Sonic-Mania-isn-t-even-trying-680200364

>>388526712
Do Data Select cheat codes count?

>>388524416
It isn't 1991 anymore

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>>388526712
>does it have Super Sonic?

nigga is yous for serious?

>>388526712
Why did games all just abruptly stop having cheat codes one day about a decade ago, anyway?

>>388524776
>I can only play a certain zone so many times before toning out any redeeming qualities it may have.
Sounds like a you problem, fucking turbo autist.

>>388526820
If you input that shit with a button/dpad combo on the title screen you best your shitter it counts.

>>388526889
Why let people cheat to see content when you can have it as an epic secret time-sink unlockable w/ achievement, or better yet charge people for it?

>>388526317
Why though?

>>388526830
and yet I still get bored of sonic after an hour

>>388526962
>I can play the same level over and over and get the full enjoyment out of it each time

Sounds like you're the autist m8

>>388526889
I wanna say DLC, but it predates that. I don't know, guide publishers lobbied against it?

>>388526989
So I looked it up and apparently it only works from the title screen on the Switch version, while in PS4 and Xbone you input the cheat code from the saved games screen.

>>388526523
Since 1994, the year that Sonic3 and Sonic and Knuckles came out, there has been 79% inflation

S3 cost $60 when it came out
SK cost $70 when it came out

Buying both games literally cost $240 in modern dollars

>>388527121
Why not? It's a great game.

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>>388526523
Sonic and Knuckles was at least 59.99 at release in the U.S.

>>388523329
wow you are too retarded
a brand new title is 60
you complain game is a third of a full game
...thus its also a third off retail price
so you complaining is fucking stupid. especially when you consider how polished the game is compared to your typical AAA ea Ubisoft title

>>388527180
>same level
That's where you're wrong, cucky.

Would Sonic Mania be this well received if it came out for the Saturn in 1996?

>>388527398
Probably not. Sonic fatigue was already kicking in by 3&K.

>>388527398
Technically 2/3 of Sonic Mania did come out on the Saturn in Sonic Jam

>>388527398

Considering the last Sonic games prior would be 3d blast, Jam and Knuckles Chaotix you bet it would be.

>>388527549
>Technically
I don't think you know what that word means because everything you said after it was dead wrong.

I agree OP, that's why I'm pirating it for PC. That and Denuvo.

>Mania
>not discussing the superior Sonic 4

Here's a fact, unless the boost games remove the railing on the sides of levels completely they will always be bad games.

>>388527549
>>388526050

>>388527674
>Denuvo
Source

>>388527398
Yes if not better

>>388527731
Have an actual fact. All 3D Sonic games up to that point had corridor levels, they just lacked railing. They also had less layers than Generations ones.

>>388527510

No, it wasn't Sonic and Knuckles was arguably the peak of the 2d series. Or did you forget it was so popular that MTV had a special competition airing on TV.

>>388527837
Any game that refuses to let you fall off the edge for not playing is a bad game.

>>388527847
>Sonic and Knuckles was arguably the peak of the 2d series
Certainly not in terms of sales

>>388527731
When will we get a game with nothing but 3D boost levels?

>>388526423
24 levels and bosses. There are 16 new levels and 8 levels that are very similar to the original act 1's. Though I'd argue Stardust Act 1 is basically new.

>>388527731
Boost games arent bad because of the railing, they are bad because of the boost and especially the airdash.

>>388527398
No, at that time anything that was 2D was shit on for the sake of being 2D

>>388527785
There is no source. People just say that the two week delay was all to just put Denovo in it because memes.

>>388527930
Never since people don't want that.

>>388527934
>>388526050
Both acts for Stardust Speedway and Metallic Madness are brand new in terms of layout, you chuckle fucks.

>>388523487
this. although this thread is obviously bait.

>>388527930
Unleashed was the peak of 3D Sonic budget and it still had 2D sections, it'll never happen.

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Hi there, Todd Howard here, you should totally buy The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim for the Nintendo Switch, coming this fall. For $59.99, you get all sorts of content and you can take Skyrim with you wherever you go.

>>388527398
Probably not actually. Around that time 3D was the new hotness. If your game wasn't 3D, people would roast you for it in reviews cause it was the future and 2D was the stinky past.

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>>388527674
>Its a PCfat tries to justify his theft post

>>388528139
>what's Symphony of the Nigh???!!!

>>388528092
Todd please stop coming to threads about other games.

>>388523865

Okay so why don't they like Mario? Basically all of that applies.

You can't tell me it's Sonic's eyes when autistic people can't even read facial expressions anyway.

>>388528181
He doesn't have to justify anything, Iizuka did it for him.

>>388526712
yes to both

>>388528209
It was roasted back then for being 2D actually. It became a classic later on.

>>388527993
Plenty of people do want that. Hell, I'd play a game with all 3D boost levels and I'm a classicfag at heart.

The REAL reason it'll never happen is because it's not economically viable. The cost of developing one full, properly-lit, well thought-out boost level like Skycraper Scamper or Windmill Isle probably takes more money and asset creators than an entire game like Sonic Mania. Those stages are fucking LONG because of Sonic's speed, and they're super detailed too. We will never get a boost Sonic game with more boost stages than full-Unleashed (full meaning all DLC) unless they slow Sonic back down (thus defeating the point of the boost formula) and lower their quality standards (which is the second good thing about the boost games - how good they looked).

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>>388527256
>79% inflation
That's technically the true average, but it's not that simple. The cost of electronics and food have actually gone down, while the cost of things like houses and medical care have gone up. If you were to look at just vidya inflation, it'd actually be something like what was 60$ then would actually be 20-30$ now.

>>388528241
They do.

>>388528318
>I'd play a game with all 3D boost levels
Play Secret Rings

>>388528241
Mario has edge
Its pretty fucking obvious, Sonic games have him fighting evil clones of himself like Shadow, Metal Sonic, and Silver while going to space to fight giant lizards and saving the planet from a terrorist old men.
Mario is just saving the princess

>>388528413
Controls that aren't complete and total ass would be nice though. Also if the music and story weren't ass too.

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>>388528241
>Okay so why don't they like Mario?
u fokin wot?

>>388527398
Hell no since everybody demanded a jump to 3D. The game's remixy nature probably wouldn't have worked out as well because of the paltry time gap.

>>388528459
Mario has no edge*
my mistake
You could also bring up the fact that the games that get the most attention are adventure-06 which were the games to try and make the series edgy while everything after tried to fix it.

>>388528181
Piracy isn't theft, when you photocopy something you aren't stealing it.

>>388527731
>game that's half boost levels and half 2D levels made by Taxman
Would that be the best Sonic game ever?

wew lads, sonic fans are literally the bottom of the barrel, I thought it couldn't get any worse than switch babbies

>>388528642
No. A game that is half 2D levels under Retro Engine and half Sonic Jam done right also under Retro Engine would be.

>>388524132
>the level design is different
>the levels have different mechanics

You are literally complaining that the graphics aren't new enough for you, retard.

>>388528676
elaborate pls

>>388528581
I don't care faggot don't respond to me.

@388528676
Worthless shitpost. No (you) for you.

>>388528676
>constructive and enthusiastic thread of on-topic discussion about a new, well-recieved video game is the bottom of the barrel

>>388527180
>same level

pay attention

>>388528642
No. I want to see something akin to the original concept for Generations.
>has 12 classic zones, two acts each, under the retro engine
>has 12 boost levels on par with Generations
>has 12 Dreamcast-esque action stages, with a Sonic voiced by Ryan Drummond
I'd pay $60 for it.

>>388527398
Absolutely not. The remixes would have been massively shit on for the same reason they are today, and Sega would have been shit on by EVERYBODY for being 2d.

>>388528642
Unless classic was a Mania-sized game by himself, no.

>>388528959
Now that is a total pipedream my man.

>>388528978
>The remixes would have been massively shit on for the same reason they are today
Way to go full retard.

>>388529016
They wanted to get Ryan Drummond on board for Generations and have three Sonics, but they couldn't get ahold of him. Although yeah, that many stages is very unrealistic.

>>388528978
>Implying the remix zones are being "shit on" by people

>>388529065
the remixes are shit on because even though they play differently, people just see that the stages are returning and assume they're the same level.

You don't think that would have happened on a much larger scale in 1997?

>>388528959
You'd end up with 5-8 stages for each Sonic at best.

>>388529209
Wait I misread the original post wrong, I went full retard myself.

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I'm happy that Mania seems to have done super well. I'm hoping a Mania 2 with only original levels will come next from Taxman & friends.

>>388528481
>music
>ass

High and Broken would like a word with you. Which reminds me,I'd love to see the Secret Rings stages brought back in a proper boost game

>>388529548
That's the Levitated Ruins music, right?
That music is like the only one I actually kinda liked. Only one with no lyrics as well which was refreshing.

>>388529621
Yeah,that's the one. Though I did like the vocal tracks for Pirate Storm and Night Palace too. If Secret Rings had proper controls I imagine it'd be quite good.

>>388529735
Eh, Night Palace's music was okay as well.
Levitated Ruin sounds like it would fit in like Shadow the Hedgehog or something.

>>388528840
You can't stop me.

>>388529441
Mania 2 won't happen become Sonic Team will be jealous that Forces didn't review well.

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>>388530121
STOP IT.

they could make mania 2 a full priced release of it had 36 zones

>>388526731
Explain
Can you actually switch on the fly?

>>388531015
Hold up while double tapping jump, then jump into Tails' hands.

>>388522526
>remake
Stop this meme
EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ACT IS NEW
EVEN THE ONES THAT TAKE PLACE IN OLD AREAS

>>388530418
Not even Ronic Ream would put pride before profit

Right?

>>388527273
>I'm gonna waste my money by buying the same game multiple times
>why not
Fucking Sonic autists.

>>388522526
>1/3 of a game
>costs 1/3 of the normal price for a game
>support small indie developer who revived a series thought dead
>immense replayability
>somehow this is killing the industry

>>388531230
How many times will you play Meme Hill zone before getting tired?

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>>388531450
No, that'd be going too frar

>>388531495
Sorry that you hate vidya and lack money.

>>388531149
That's it? I already knew that.
It's not a game changer, it's not reliable enough to use it constantly, you have to position Tails carefully or otherwise he ends up flying upwards and bouncing into something, or flying too low for you to grab in time.

>>388531495
Not that anon, but I'm personally buying it twice, once on Switch (already got it) and again on PC.

Switch for portability, PC for mods. More importantly, it's to send a message to Sega (and hopefully publishers in general) that a well made game with a lot of heart and care and THOUGHT put into it is 100x better than AAA generic garbage. I don't generally double-dip with games, but "vote with your wallet" as the saying goes, and personally I vote for more games like this.

>>388524417
Personally I'd be fine with a few remixed zones in Mania 2 but only if they're more obscure, like Game Gear levels or something from Knuckles' Chaotix.

>>388531581
Considering it's not the original Meme Hill Zone and instead a remixed act 1 that combines bits of the original act 1 and 2 and then an all new act 2 I won't.

>>388528241
>why don't they like mario
Because he's more complex. He's harder to draw, has more complex expressions that are harder for autists to read, and doesn't have near the amount of market penetration in terms of media to soak up outside of games.

>autists can't read facial expressions
Yes, that's precisely why Sonic's massive eyes and exaggerated expressions appeal to them. They're readable for autists.

>>388528581
depending on what your photocopying, yes it is.

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>>388524350
Sorry man, you don't realize it but you are jsut retarded. It's obvious to the rest of us.

>>388531661
You shouldn't feel a sense of pride for blowing your money of video games.

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>>388524603
>his late PC version will have Denuvo
Man I really hope this isn't the case, this would actually get me to pirate Mania instead of buying it.

Work that sucka to death, come on now! Work that sucka to death!

>>388531951
non-PC gamer here with a genuine question: what is it about Denuvo that gets everyones panties in a twist?

Does it make games run significantly slower or something? Or is it always-online? Is it a keylogger?

>>388522526
>Game is 60 dollar
>1/3 of Game is 1/3 of 60 dollar
Checks out to me, poorfag

>>388532163
It's a terrible geis that prevents games from being pirated.

>>388532296
It's 1/3 epic 2d retro indie platformer and 2/3 genesis game. Worth $5 at most

>>388522526
>Sonic Mania is 1/3 of a game
Well it's also about 1/3 of what I pay for games much of the time so meh. I also would've liked more from Sonic Mania but the fact that we got a Sonic game that didn't suck ass was enough for me, as lame as that sounds.

>>388532163
Always online AND it's constantly writing to your SSD, wearing it out faster.

>>388531661
>proud to waste money

is 2/3rds going to become the new epic anti-classic meme now that "hold right to win", "sonic was never good" and "you don't have time to react/it's all memorization-based" have all failed?

>>388531940
>>388532494
Not a waste if I'm happy.

>>388532659
Let these shitposters enjoy their meme while they still can. Once those maps get ripped they won't be able to use it anymore.

>>388532415
>2/3 genesis game
This couldn't run on a genesis.

>>388532670
So if you threw all your money in a barrel and lit it on fire, and felt happy while doing it, that wouldn't be a waste to you either?

>>388532985
But I wouldn't be happy doing that.

>>388533128
Yeah, but that's beside the point.

>>388522591
stay triggered

>>388523865
>Simple easy to replicate design
>-Large expressive eyes and simple but obvious facial expressions
>-Black and White moral universe
>-Media penetration

So, Mass Effect Andromeda

>>388532163
It effectively turns games online only as it requires authentication from time to time, hinders performance and only affects paying users.

>>388532659
>"you don't have time to react/it's all memorization-based"
That's not a meme, that's reality on 4:3 Sonic.

>>388532905
32X, probably.

>>388534148
>That's not a meme, that's reality on 4:3 Sonic.
Only if you have the reaction time of a slug.

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>>388524709
>much inflation meme

>>388532905
It's designed to be a Saturn-era game

>>388534343
You're talking to a Mega Drive kid, anon.

>>388534590
Honestly, Chaotix looks more like a Saturn game than Mania. They were too light on the 3D.

>>388534591
Doesn't mean your reaction time isn't shit.

>>388522526
>Full game costs $60
>This is 1/3rd of a game
>It costs 1/3rd of $60
>Something is wrong with this.
???

>>388532441
>writing to your SSD, wearing it out faster.
Shut the fuck up idiot. Stop parroting shit

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pc bros what happened I thought you were going to pirate it

Torrent when

>>388522526
Its not a remake faggot.

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>>388535103
Mania 2 is in the fucking bag now.

>>388534896
Whatever you say. There's a reason Sonic wasn't a consensus among MD owners.

>>388535103
https://steamspy.com/app/584400#tab-sales

3k people did. I'd be one of them if I could refund this key.

>3 months of 24/7 spam threads
>its the easiest 2d sonic game to date
>literally hold button to win

kek

>>388534591
>>388535353
>There's a reason Sonic wasn't a consensus among MD owners
Stop fucking lying you idiot. Youre in the minority.
>be 6
>Play Sonic 1, 2 and 3 as a kid
>Go to school in Kindergarten
>They have a Genesis
>Everyone wants to play Sonic
>No has troubles playing the game go losing lives
>Lived on the block with other kids who also played video games
>Everyone loved Sonic, Mario and Megaman
The only hard thing in the Sonic series was getting the Super Chaos Emeralds. The "Going to fast" shit meme didnt start till the dawn of the internet and it was because of Hill Top Zone in Sonic 2 which had the double spring bullshit.

>>388536271
I never said it was hard. I said you can't see shit coming and 4:3 Sonic is mostly memorization based. 16:9 is a godsend.

>>388535353
>the game comes tomorrow for pc.
>spoiled to hell and back.
>everyone already played and there are no threads anymore.

>all beacuse some moron said he is gonna pirate a game in a legit stream of a gamr purchased early.

Can anybody tell me whats the point?

>>388536597
Sega has a history of self-sabotage.

>>388536597
I assume there'll be a resurgence in threads once PC drops.

This is only if
A) The oft-rumored mod support is indeed a thing
and
B) The PC version releases alongside a bugfix update for the console version, and also includes aforementioned bugfixes,

>>388537058
You forgot:

C)Data mining

>>388537434
Ohshit that is a very good point. I can see Mania being a veritable goldmine for this sort of thing.

>>388537058
Rumors? Is there any source?, as far as anyone would think, even if it exists, Mod support wont be official.

Just like the sonicfans like taxman and stealth discovered how the genesis games work and made those tools, the fans interested in modding mania will have to discover how to mod the game and make tools on their own.

Maybe if theres enough interest, team mania might spill some beans or give modders some pointers, but unless sega and taxman make the RE into a fullfledged middleware solution, i dont see them going beyond that.

Why does this game have so many glitches? Was it an intentional retro throwback?

>>388538046
It's more people theorizing that Mania will support mods, seeing as mod support was put into the SEGA Classics suite on Steam than an outright rumor.

Of course, modders, hackers and the like will still have to do the legwork to make any of this possible, but for some, the mere possibility is enticing enough.

Rate my rehashed zone selection for Mania 2.

>Emerald Hill Zone
>new Zone 2
>new Zone 3
>Ice Cap Zone
>Sylvania Castle Zone
>new Zone 6
>Pumpkin Hill Zone
>new Zone 8
>new Zone 9
>Star Light Zone
>new Zone 11
>Titanic Monarch Zone

>>388538383
>Sylvania Castle
>Pumpkin Hill

GTFO of here with your modern trash.

>>388538383
>>Pumpkin Hill Zone
I never realized how much I wanted this until now.

So, I found this huge ring in one zone but I failed to catch the Robot. When can I replay it again? I got game over but it still wasn't avaiable.

>>388538648
When you find he next giant ring, they all do the same thing. You can't enter the same ring twice until you've beaten the game.

>>388538383
>Pumpkin Hill
What the fuck would you even do?

>>388538383
>4 anything
>Mania stage rehashed in its direct sequel
retard/10

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Today is the day for us pctards

>>388539018
That's tomorrow, stupid. What are you, japanese?

>>388539018
Wrong, still 23 hours to go.

>>388539113
The infinite excitement got me confused anon.

>everyone thinks Mania 2 will be 12 zones
>not 16

>>388535082
t. Denuvo

>>388539306
>not 25 zones
t. Taxman's mum

Will it be available at midnight?

t.didntplayit

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today's the last day I'll be able to post this

>>388540050
Owning an Xbone is a greater shame than being late to any party.

>>388540050
Thank goodness. I'm playing it on Ps4 but Sonic Mania is a treasure that no one should celebrate being locked off.

>>388539937
You tell me.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/584400/Sonic_Mania/

>>388540050
i owned a PS4
got rid of it cause i never played it
despite having bought the exclusives only

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>>388540050
See you space shitposter

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Tee did a great job on the soundtrack of Mania, but I still feel that the best tracks don't quite stack up to the best tracks of Sonic CD.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2w2v_kgzWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTXR0T5mJ68
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo3UcnH8y3c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nW3W-IqYuQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJyIoa25lEQ

>>388524426
this

>>388524426
>>388540838
epic really cool here's my like

>>388534148
>>388534591
>>388535353
>>388536564
Assuming you're going at full speed in 4:3 sonic and not rolling, you have 14-15 frames of reaction time to any given obstacle. This is assuming you know nothing of the stage and you aren't rolling (as rolling takes care of most obstacles). 14-15 frames equates to about a quarter of a second, which is more or less the average human reaction time.

Sorry you're in the lower half of the population when it comes to reactions, buddy

>>388528715
So Sonic Lost World?

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>>388522526
>get to Metallic Madness
>sounds like a Jet Se Radiio soundtrack

Some of you actually have the nerve to say Mania has a bad OST

>>388541042
>That webm
I got hounded by Jet Set autists when I claimed that Jet Set and Splatoon share a very similar aesthetic and some similar music.

>>388541231
because they bloody well dont

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>>388541002
No?

>>388541368
He mentioned Sonic Jam. I assumed he was referring to Sonic World in Sonic Jam which plays like Sonic Adventure or Sonic Lost World.

>>388541312
okay

>>388541042
>Mania OST
One of the major reason I bought it on Switch

So is it out on PC? datamining?

>>388540574
WORK THAT SUCKER TO DEATH
COME ON NOW
WORK THAT SUCKER TO DEATH

>>388542057
YO, YO, YO, YO, YO, G-G-GREAT

Sonic mania should have come with a magazine featuring it with shit quality tiny image scans and a vhs promotional tape of the game and how segas about to release tons of crazy on the world

also 4 zones is kinda gay

where is the ask Iisuka image?

Is sonic 2 on game gear unironically the best sonic game?

>>388542870

3 and a half. Don't forget how Mirage Saloon act 1 is either a sky attack redux or a slapped-together version of the second act for Knuckles.

>Mirage Saloon act 2 is the single best of the game with the best boss and best track
>Getting to it requires playing the slowest most boring level in the game

>>388541476
Jam plays nothing like either.

I wish Mania came out after Forces. I could have enjoyed a Generations sequel before being reminded how amazing original-style 2D sonic is. Now I've been redpilled, or given a version of those They Live sunglasses

>>388543413
Yeah, Hydrocity Act 1 blows.

>>388543779
You know what else blows?
My dick in your boipussi if you say that shit again

>>388543413
Well you do have two options for Act1.

>>388543420
Jam plays like Adventure at a slower speed.

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>>388543413
That's what you get for playing as someone that chuckles.

>>388544165
Hydrocity Act 1 FUCKING SUCKS and if you wanna prove otherwise post a video of the fabled, legendary "high path" I keep hearing about that supposedly has no water because that shit is lame.

>>388538383
needs more wacky workbench

>>388543413
MSZ2 is way too damn short to be the best of the game. Best is CPZ2 without a doubt. I knew Wacky Workbench was a good idea executed terribly in CD, but CPZ2 made the bouncy floor gimmick fun.

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>>388546528
>Tfw I briefly held the WR for Mirage Saloon
I had 45"66 and some hotshot got his time down to 41s recently

>>388538936
Half ghosts and half badniks, haunted theme, underground mine cart sections, stuff like that

>>388545268
I got some pretty solid time attack times on my playthroughs and I still need to go in the water at the very start and during one section about 50 seconds in for a short bubble moment

But never again

>>388546810
>underground mine cart sections
Do not do that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWxqi9aJzOM

>>388538958
If the Heavies make a comeback Titanic Monarch would work well as a final stage again.

>>388538936
It would basically be a new zone in level design, only keeping the pumpkins and aesthetics.

>>388547697
Better video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89LT5FyMxlo

>>388531907
>9gag
kill yourself euphoric autist

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>>388543056

>>388548237
>sped up with autistic screeching in the background
>better

>>388548237
>>388547697
I was thinking something more akin to Underground Zone from Sonic 2 Game Gear, short avoidable sections that just require a jump or duck to avoid obstacles, say like in DK Country Returns style

>>388548632
There is nothing wrong with Iizuka. He helped make some of the best games in this franchise.

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>>388548991
>He helped make some of the best games in this franchise.
Like what exactly?

>>388549101
Sonic 3
Sonic Adventure-Heroes

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>>388548632

Can you fuck off and let someone else half competent steer the ship for a while?

I'm actually waiting for a price reduction on this.

£15.99 is a bit too much.

I don't mind paying £10, though.

>>388549101
Sonic Mania.

>>388548237
At least it raised my blood pressure enough that I passed out and came to less angry, with the video over.

>>388528209
>what is the single exception in that gen?

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>>388549240
>Sonic Adventure-Heroes
Not so fast, kid.

>>388549502
So bring Yuki Naka back?

>>388549942
Okay maybe not Heroes.

>>388549846
It's an exception because it's a fantastic game, gee, just like Mania.

>>388549240
>Sonic Adventure-Heroes
But you said best, not worst.

>>388550127
Well yeah at the very least Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 qualify as good games by a variety of criteria.

>>388550127
And those are the best 3D Sonic games.

>>388522526
>Sonic Mania is 1/3 a game
>20$ is 1/3 a traditional games price these days
Sounds right to me

>>388550301
Not saying much there, bud.

>>388550301
The best of bad games are still bad.

>>388540574
what irks me the most from Mania's soundtrack is how samey the instrumentation is throughout all the levels. Fake Trumpets everywhere. Flying Battery isn't the same without gritty FM sounds.

Tee went for that Sonic CD feel but he forgot that not all its tracks had the same instrumentation

>>388528049
My two favorite stages from Sonic CD are back? Holy shit.

>>388550440
It still means that he knows what he is doing when it comes to Sonic or at least he knew what he was doing a while ago.

>>388550221
Not at all. Everything wrong started right there. The slippery controls, the atrocious camera, the awful collision detection, the gameplay gimmicks everyone hates, the corridor levels, the dashpads and spring strings. Anyone who complains about any of these but turns around to praise Adventure is an hypocrite nostalgiafag.

>>388550563

You actually liked Metallic Madness? Music and theme is one thing but its a clusterfuck of a layout. Mania really does unfuck it heavily.

Who thought that the Blue Spheres were fun?
Who thought making them the only bonus game was a good idea?
Who thought locking unlockables behind this shitty fucking system was smart?
Who thought making it so that you had to go through a loop of like 29 sphere levels you already beat to get back to the one you Golded was a good idea?

>>388550656
I really only found the camera to be the only really bad part about Sonic Adventure 1 and 2. The collision detection issues seemed to be a product of the time and were resolved in Heroes.

>>388550025
many fantastic games in 2D were ignored because they were 2D. And SOTN, while well received, didn't exactly achieved world record sales at first.

>>388550841

It was a shit idea to make them into the bonus stages because you'll actively avoid them since they give no level bonus. In Sonic 3 I would hop in to get a shield or get rings/lives all the time. They probably threw them in since they had the working proof of concept for the Sonic 3 Remaster and nowhere else to stick it.

I would still have included them but in some other manner. Next to Sonic 1 it's the worst special stage design.

>>388550841

Still better than advanced 1's bonus game

>>388551292
Sonic 2's special stages are by far the worst, what are you smoking

>>388522526
stfu you filtthy piece of shit. how about actually naming your filename next time

>>388551639

No idea but I never hated Sonic 2's special stages. Probably because I played so much Saturn 3D Blast that I have more bias to the half pipe shit. I never liked how rigid Blue Spheres feels even if mechanically superior to the bullshit thrown at you in Sonic 2.

>>388550794
I dont think its a clusterfuck, I think its just exremely punishing. If you simply platform on the lowest path and dont fuck up, youll never hit the frustrating parts. If Mania makes it even better, I think ill love mania. Just one more day, pcbros.

Datamining when?
in 2 hours?

>>388550841
Blue Sphere is fun. You're right on the rest, though.

>>388528978
That gen was truly a nadir for video games, looking back on it it's absolutely baffling everyone just mindlessly wanted that shitty 3D when 2D was reaching its peak in terms of pure artistry.

>>388552357
More like 20.

>>388552357
It's going to be released on Steam at noon EST tomorrow. Not sure if there's a place other than Steam where you can get the PC version.

>>388522526
I'd still pay for a spyro remake

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>>388522526
>killing the industry

The industry died when you were a little kid. Sonic Mania is just a reminder of a time when the industry was still young and thriving.

What time CEST does the game release on Steam?

>>388552641
>checked steam
>game is availzblr in 19 hours
wew I was expecting datamining for tonight, Guess I will just time attack Titanich Monarch now

>>388522526
What an amazing degree in economics.

>>388522526
20 bucks? Maybe I'll buy it for my Switch

>>388526196
The fact that Sonic forces is going to have a deviantart furry oc creator to be a gary stu hero and a villain that is the edgiest of edge well sadly ensure that the game sells well on that alone and not good gameplay. You know in your heart to be true that those people are not going to care about the game play.

>>388531951
Won't bode well for Sega if tomorrow people realize the delay was over anti-piracy measures. Especially since the game has been discussed/spoiled to hell and back by this point.

>>388553292
The tag team stages look fun.

Why did Sonic Team stop using badniks in most of the modern Sonic games? The weird egg mechs and the egg pawns are so boring. And Force's redesigns are shit.

>>388553884
Badniks have been present since Sonic Colors.

>>388552772
>19 hours
>actually have the day off tomorrow
T-Thanks Sega...

>>388553884
They're iconic and fun. I'm glad they're back.

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>the only bonus stage
Whoah kid, maybe you better try it again...

>>388554891
I hope you're not one of those retards who calls Special Stages Bonus Stages.

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Blue Sphere till Mania PC, anyone?
Steam says it comes out in 19 hours, so I'd have to stop early for some rest.
smashcast dot tv slash BlueSphereAnon

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>>388555461

>finally unlock the blue sphere minigame
>purple and green spheres on the maps
What the fuck is this?

>>388541231
I thought the same thing for a while and I was happy when someone finally made a reference to the connection
see>>388541042 's webm

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>>388555552
seriously this is the last day mates, this has to be a big /comfy/ thing

>>388548632
>"most likely"
>not "most rikery"

>>388555619
I have yet to try them but according to other anons, one sphere requires you to touch it multiple times to turn red, and another warps you across the map.

>>388526394
>>388522526

So how do you use the cheats you get in debug mode?!

I unlocked a few things from beating blue sphere stages,but i cant find how to use them.

>>388556196
But why are these in the extras and not the main game?

>>388555619
>newfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cACZxuUy6zY

>>388556196
Yeah, green turns into a blue when you touch it, and the pink is a teleporter. It's strange, because these don't exist in the normal stages. They caught me off guard.

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Historically prices for video games have only gotten lower. 20$ is fucking nothing.

>>388531450

pettiness is the opposite of pride

that being said I wouldn't put it past them

>>388533559
Found the adventurefag. I bet you even jack off to furry shit.

>>388538383

or how about just entirely new levels and calling it Sonic 5

>>388557104
>calling it Sonic 5
That would only be acceptable if Mania was called Sonic 4, but it's not so fuck that.

>>388528241
People have been making a lot of good points, but one thing to consider is "OC" potential to these people.

It's not fucking hard at all to design a Sonic styled character, and even have them fit into the world. Official media was doing that since the beginning, with both Sega of America, and Japan pushing new characters since past the first game. Sonic Forces is going all in, as well.

How do you design a Mario OC that isn't laughably bad, even to autists?

>>388557104
No reason to create all new green forest stage nor ice stage when you can just call them Emerald Hill and Ice Cap.

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>>388557754
>implying

>>388550841
>Who thought that the Blue Spheres were fun?

Everybody, before being forced to play one every three seconds. I really wish they did the 3&K collection thing and just have it as a side mode like mean bean

>>388557754
The first two Paper Marios and SNES Mario RPG were a good ground for OC who could meld with Mario's world

>>388522526
>Sonic Mania is 1/3 of a game

Indeed, which is why it's exactly one-third the price of your average game release.

>>388559639
This honestly took way too long to be posted.

>>388560538
People have posted that exact comment many many times.

>>388560538
The same thing has been posted already like ten times now.

>>388561042
>>388561065
Uh yeah sure.

>>388560538
>>388561276
see
>>388523110
>>388523527
>>388524085
>>388524620
>>388531505
>>388550349

>>388561276
Try reading the thread, brainlet.

>>388561276

>>388523110
>>388523527
>>388524085
>>388527304
>>388531505

etc

>>388526570
>As far as Sonic games go, that's pretty big.
It is, but faggots these days think that if they're not getting at least an hour of play time through their first play through (and that's assuming they'll even play through a game more than once which is a stretch) they think they're getting ripped off.
Replayability isn't a thing to a lot of people anymore, they just consume their video games like its a bag of chips then bitch that it isn't a seven course meal.

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>that feel when this is all I can think about in a sphere bonus stage

>>388561536
>>388561557
>>388561668
>Thinking this is the same thing
Golly!

>>388522526
>remake
Terrible bait

>>388560538
Someone posted that exact sentiment like 20 minutes into the thread.

>>388561801
err- an hour of play time per dollar spent, I mean.

>>388562103
Are you an actual retard?

>>388562103
>I still can't read the rest of the thread xD