Are... Arena shooters saved?

No.

>be a demon
>teleport into a room
>see these guys
>run

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>>388513030
yes

if anything, the DOOM franchise is.. holy shit this game is good

QC's problem is netcode but it has some nice fanservice

>>388513540
no Todd, it really is not.
How about you try making a real DooM game for once, not a consolized Call Of Painkiller: Halo edition?

Tbh I hope so. Quake champions is the perfect balance between casual friendly with heroes but without compromising level design, speed, weapons, powerups, controls, movement, etc. That's pretty much all perfect. The upcoming ranger-only mode is basically quake 5 and you should be extremely fucking thankful that this was what we got

>>388514096
Haven't posted on /v/ in years, I forgot people posted with large sticks up their ass

>>388514518
Having different movement systems make it not friendly for casuals at all. The health system is fucking stupid as well. Low armour means you die way too fast.

>>388515254
>Low armor means you die too fast
So this... Is the power... Of making sense....

>>388515254
The movement systems aren't that different though.

>>388515514
I don't post on any of those, you are just a whiny grumpy upset person. Why are you so angry? Who cares what I think about this game? What are you even doing with your life?

>>388515648
Same as you: wasting time on an Anonymous imageboard, raging about videogames.
Again, nothing to do with the fact that nuDoom is shit.

It's saving multiplayer PC gaming for me.

We live in a world where the most popular games are trash like PUBG, a broken simplistic mess and Overwatch, a game so shallow people only play for the autistic waifus, the alternatives to that are playing boring, generic shitty tacticool shooters like CSGO with random stoners and russians or keep playing nothing but the same dead quake games and their clones which i have playing for over a decade now. Quake Champions, even if it's not a classic arena shooter feels like fucking godsend, haven't had this much fun since the first time i discovered Quake Live back in 2010.

>>388513030
You could say they're DOOMed.

>>388516405
CARLOSSSS

>>388516118
>opinion on video game is a "fact"

my friend, when was the last time you've gotten laid (if ever)?

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It would be if Quake Champions could find a fucken match in less than 4 minutes

>>388516552
Stop living in Australia

>>388516529
>when was the last time you've gotten laid (if ever)?
Couple weeks ago.
But that again has nothing to do with the fact that nuDOOM is consolized trash that's barely a step above your typical Call Of Halo shit, and not so surprisingly is already a dead game at this point.

>>388516680
Zzzzzzzzz

You aren't going to stop me from enjoying anything :-)

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>>388516529
Not him, but nice argument.

>>388516552
I hope this doesn't sound like some degenerate, milenial overwatch shill trying to defend his shitty shallow fap sim. But i have actually been getting matches in less than 1 minute, both for TDM and DM, but this only AFTER the steam release, back then i had to wait 3 mins and it was a nighmare.

>>388516869
As you can see, I had a lot to refute

Why you insecure tho

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>Double-click dodges in Quake
WHAT did they mean by this?

>>388517859
If you are an UT player it's really weird how disorientating is playing clutch and then picking a champion with Quake movement. I had to do some strafejumping before i could get used again to playing Quake.

>>388514096
todd didn't have any involvement in nudoom tho

let alone the games he actually directs [\spoiler]

>>388517124
How is that insecure? Saying: "lol ur a virgin" to discredit someones validity makes it sound like you know you've lost the argument.

It's a common tactic used by SJW leftists to win internet arguments against alt-righters.

>>388518439
This explains the lack of Doomguy Todd posting.

>>388518470
>It's a common tactic used by SJW leftists to win internet arguments against alt-righter
Literally the special olympics, even if you win, you are still retarded.

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>>388518439
bethesda is the publisher
todd had nothing to do with the development of doom

>>388518674
Exactly.
It's an "argument" employed by stupid people when they know they've lost.

Add classic ctf with the ability to choose to disable abilities

>>388518439
Bethesda owns id, Todd is responsible for all the short comings

>>388518785
No, add server browser and clan arena first.

>>388518745
muh dick

>>388518836
fair enough

>>388514016
If they can fix the netcode it will be a lot of fun; it's unfortunate that they actually put it up on steam with such shit netcode since it will turn a lot of people off.

I tried playing some QuakeLive again yesterday and by comparison it is night and day. QL was smooth and I could actually hit what I was shooting at. QC is a stuttering mess and hitting anyone moving is like winning the lottery.

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>>388513030
No. The arena shooter genre is doomed

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>>388514518
>>388513030
>QC is the perfect balance
lol wat

It's a terrible balance that gets everything wrong. Only two classes are even remotely viable because they decided to give each class a different game's movement mechanics, and mobility is everything in a game with maps like this and weapon pickups.

Its also a technical failure on an impressive scale. They've had such an incredible long beta period to get this shit figured out but interp and hitreg are still worse than source engine

They should've either bit the bullet and gone with premade loadouts or dropped the class selection. This on-the-fence garbage isn't gonna fly.

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>tiny maps
>weapon pickups with a class system
>class determines mobility - not through abilities, but through differing physics? The fuck?
>the two that can actually build and maintain momentum are the only ones that matter
>projectiles barely work because high speed + shit netcode = interp errors
>hitscan doesn't work at all
>lightning gun refuses to fire at close range at random
Man, people shit on Lawbreakers for releasing as it is but they're giving this massive turd a pass on early access for the same price?

What the fuck is wrong with you people

>>388519332
There are dead on arrival indie multiplayer fps games with 5 devs with better lag comp and hitreg than Quake Champions. Frankly it's embarassing.

>>388519332
>Only two classes are even remotely viable

Sorlag, Nyx, Anarki, and Galena were the primary champions used as QuakeCon as far as I could see, and the first three much more than anything else.

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>arena shooters vets pick strafejumpers and dominate everyone
>new players have no idea what to do because there's no movement tutorials for some reason and strafejumping is old and obtuse
>QC adds doomslayer, a character that runs fast without needing to do anything
>it doesn't matter because the strafejumpers are still faster
PLEASE KEEP PLAYING OUR GAME UHH UHHH WE'LL PUT IN MASTER CHIEF AND HE CAN FLY

can someone rip doomguy's model and use it form sfm porn?