cave story

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>Cave Story doesn't even make top 100 lists anymore
F*ck this g*y Earth

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What the fuck is Pixel doing now?
When is his next game?
I've played through Cave Story and Kero Blaster so many fucking times

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>>388490968
He's modest to a fault

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Meme Story

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>>388493372
It's not a meme... it's just... It's not a meme.

daily reminder that Jack and Santa are best mimgas

Is this a good game? Never heard of it

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>>388495609
It's one of the best games ever made. It's freeware too: http://www.cavestory.org/download/cave-story.php
Download NXEngine as well if you want to play in fullscreen. It is also available as a core for Retroarch.

>>388492718
>>388490968
kero blaster was shit

>>388495609
>never heard of it
Fuck off faggot

>>388495609
Its a pretty damn solid game.
The kind that doesnt bring much new stuff to the table, but executes all it does so well, you cant find any flaws.
It was made by one single person, over 5 years, from 1999 to 2004, and released for free when every other kind of "indie game" back then was flash stuff on newgrounds.
Actually, it is often praised as the best indie game ever made and the inspiration to the entire chunk of the industry

>>388496450
wrong

>>388496450
It was alright for what it was. I was satisfied with it, but it could've been better.

>>388490187
. is a shit game

>>388496450
Other than kero blaster what other games has he done?

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Cave Story is a good game

>>388496450
It didn't do anything objectively wrong. If you didn't like it, thats just you. You need to stop acting like a child.

>I didn't like it, this game is shit!
>I didn't like it, this game doesn't suit my tastes in what I look for in a game!
Two different things.

everything pixel ever made was a steaming pile of turds
what a sad miserable life

>>388497586
but kero blaster really was fucking shit
quit being a contrarian anon

>>388497981
What was bad about it

>>388497981
You're the only contrarian here you fucking faggot

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Just finished hard mode recently, one of my all time favorite games.

I love games where the main/original weapon is a fast press/mashing type, like Metroid and Contra. Any more?

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>it is now considered cool to hate Cave Story and Kero Blaster
kill me

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>>388497981

It's a very relaxing game to play. Hard mode was a little challenging, but the simple graphics and music made the experience very relaxing.

>>388498364
my ass
shitposting on /v/ is never cool

>>388490187
Cave story is my favorite fucking game of all time. i dont call stuff neo-/v/ often, but it's a real shame watching cave story threads die over the years. I don't hate newfags, but I am really upset that most of them have never, and probably will never play this absolute gem of a game.


It's a really fucking special game to me. I met my girlfriend through it and I'm going to propose soon. It's really fucking dorky and stupid, but I want to put quote and curly on our wedding cake. It's subtle enough to be cute I think, and not overly cringey and stupid.

>>388498721
What the fuck

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>>388498721
I'm glad for you Anon, but how the fuck did you meet your future spouse from Cave Story?

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>>388498721

Will you make an Iron Bond as well? I restore Curly's memory in literally every playthrough, not just for the Hell run, but just because that reunion scene is so nice.

>>388498721
will you steal her panties

>>388497156
Not exactly all games, but he's done a ton of shit
http://www.cavestory.org/pixels-works/list.php

>Downloaded Cave Story in 2010
>Never got round to finishing it

whoa is this the undertale thread haha ecks dee

this is the reality of the world we live in now

I hold Cave Story very fondly in my memories and i think it's my absolute favorite game ever
But I have never been able to beat the final boss rush before Hell
It's just fucking impossible for me
Fuck

>>388498868
Met her in school, bonded over cave story.

>>388498975
The wedding cake stuff is far enough, I think

>>388499010
Already done.

>>388499234
You mean Misery, Doc, Doc again and the Core? It was pretty hard for me the first time but I got it after like 20 or 30 minutes.

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>>388498721
>quote and curly on the cake
That's not subtle at all. Either way you better post pics eventually.

>>388499234

After beating Doc, you can get some hearts if you talk to the purple Mimiga twice.

The Core is easy as long as you take down Misery first, Sue isn't really a big threat.

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>>388499132
Cave Story is in my top 3 and I think Undertale is a great game. Forced memers be damned.

>>388490187
Overrated and flawed as fuck.

The good stuff is really good though.

>>388501382
Flawed how?

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I feel like a cowboy when I stand in a boss' line of fire, and finish him off with quick mashing of the Polar Star before he gets his attack off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRT69i2XRa0

What other games have these basic button mashing weapons with horizontal/vertical aiming?

>>388501864
Fetch quests, backtracking, unskippable cutscenes.

Many parts of the game completely fall apart on replay.

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>>388501867
Another World doesn't have vertical aiming but it has that quick-draw-or-die feel and lots of frantic mashing. Very cowboy even if it's sci-fi. Like Cave Story it was also made by one man and was incredibly influential, definitely moreso than Cave Story. Time seems to be forgetting both though.

>>388501960
>unskippable cutscenes
nigga you just gotta smash the button

I guess I'm the dumbest game player alive, but I thought the ride off the island thing was the ending until I saw a /v/ thread about cave story.

is Curly spry?

>>388501960

The dog fetching isn't TOO bad since it has you advancing further and further into the map for each dog, but I will agree that the Plantation fetch quests were just killing time especially because you have one of the boosters at that point, so there aren't any big obstructions.

But the entire underground prison and last cave segments were really good.

Is the Switch version worth it?

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>>388502248

If you've never played Cave Story, then yeah, definitely get it, I heard the visuals and screen resolution is slightly improved from the PC version.

If you've already played the game, don't bother.

>>388502125
>smash the button
Painfully unfun when it's about skipping cutscenes. Which is just another reason why unskippable cutscenes are a goddamn sin.

>>388502229
>The dog fetching isn't TOO bad
You have to be joking, this thing is literally fetchquest+backtracking unholy package of fun murdering. Going back and forth that section is pure ass. Pixel went full retard on that part.

>the entire underground prison and last cave segments were really good
Exactly, the game needed more of this to deserve its reputation, instead people wank mindlessly to these stupid ass fetchquests.

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Look, cave story is good and all, but everyone knows the best studio pixel game is glasses

>>388499413
>Already done.
You rascal, you.

Does Noill still make porn of her?

>>388497981
you are the kind of people that make this board a shit-flinging contest. brings nothing to the discussion.

The Undertale of freeware indie games.

>>388502905
it's the citizen kane of the dark souls of the overwatch of visual novels

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>>388502442
>people wank mindlessly to these stupid ass fetchquests.

They do...? I will admit the fetch quests could've been better thought out, but I don't recall people wanking over it. They usually talk about Hell.

The main problem is that Pixel made doors and obstacles cleared only by progressing the story (ie. defeating a boss, talking to someone) and all of the weapons were pretty much optional. If he made another game in this style, it could apply elements of Metroid, so that the weapons and tools are what open up the obstacles and doors, this will also justify backtracking and exploration.

But other than that, it was a valiant effort for a one man job.

>>388503012
Pixel should have made it like a Treasure action game.

Just finished this game recently and had a really good time. Lovely characters and story, cute style and a final boss that felt truly satisfying to overcome. Might give it a shot in hard mode sometime soon.

>>388498454
>An aged up Yotsuba image that isn't terrible and is actually really nice

Am I dreaming?

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>>388503012

Actually, now that I think about, the First Cave was VERY Metroid, how the bricks on the right would obstruct your path in the beginning, but once you get the Polar Star, you can destroy it and move on. The game should've had more of that, just on a more advanced and difficult scale. For example, the Bush Lands could've had trees or spiky vines that could've been burned with the Fireball.

I feel like I enjoyed Kero Blaster better because it felt more focused and straight foward.

>>388498721
I love Cave Story. It's my favourite game, but I usually don't participate in these threads as there is nothing new to talk about until Pixel creates something new.
I feel like I've talked about every single pixel.

>>388503208
>Might give it a shot in hard mode sometime soon
And you'll find out the joy of unskippable cutscenes then.

>>388503208
Hard mode is the same game without any of the health upgrade capsules. It's not really worth playing

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>>388503208
>An aged up Yotsuba image that isn't terrible and is actually really nice. Am I dreaming?

Yotsuba fan art, including grown-up Yotsuba, is great as long as people remember the manga for what is really was, a mild everyday life comedy manga.

>>388503546
No... it can't be... is this...

>>388503491
M8 I already played through the game twice to get the true ending. The cutscenes were barley even a minor annoyance.

>>388503318
Precisely.

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>>388503208

Hard mode removes all the health upgrades and the Missile launcher. It is actually surprisingly fun. I suggest keeping the Blade leveled up for Ballos.

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>>388503448
We could talk about how much we dislike Nicalis

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>>388503630

Just an ordinary picture of a marine biologist and a foreigner girl.

>>388503636
We'll see when you keep getting one shot by bosses and you end up having to go through the same cutscenes again and again and again.

Why can't I beat the final boss rush in normal? I've been literally stuck here for weeks. Any tips?

>>388503773
The updated graphics look like shit and they made it even worse on 3DS.

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>>388503318

It is indeed a very different genre to Cave Story. The latter being more of a Metroidvania, while Kero is closer to Contra and Metal Slug.

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>>388503781

You mean the final boss or the optional final boss?

>>388503880
It's not like a Metroidvania at all... the level of linearity is closer to a JRPG.

>>388503880
True. I still dont think people give Kero enough credit. I like the simplicity of it.

>>388503689
That sounds tough as hell but I think I might give it a shot. I don't like my chances of beating Ballos with just three hearts though.

>>388504097
If it had great art, it would be as worshiped as it deserves to be. Imagine Kero Blaster with Owlboy level graphics. It would win GOTY awards. He really is modest to a fault: if he just secured some funding and hired artists, he would make incredibly well selling stuff.

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>>388504067
>the level of linearity is closer to a JRPG

I know the definition of Metroidvania is vague and all, but lets not lose our minds here. And also, not all JRPGs are linear.

>>388503689
>level 3 blade
>cannot fire rapidly
>actually does less dps than level 2 fired repeatedly

>>388503880
Cave Story only kept the worst parts of the metroidvania style though.

>>388499625
that's a thicc curly

>>388503781
Git gud and deal with the bullshit rng that is the falling rocks room

>>388504310
No, think about it. Typical JRPG fare you progress in the direction the game tells you. Paths unlock because of ~narrative reasons~. You have the option of backtracking through areas to reap small rewards if you want.
A Metroidvania though, that's very specific. Those are about gaining new tools that enable you to advance through old areas toward new ones with new tools. Backtracking is the name of the game. Cave Story really isn't fundamentally about backtracking so calling it a Metroidvania is misleading to new players. Frequently I see people complain along the lines of, "It was good, I guess, but it's not much of a Metroidvania," as if that's somehow a complaint, all because people don't know beans about genres and mislabel things.

>>388502629
>not Antares

Is the Switch version any good? I've heard that the Necalis published versions all had problems versus the original, like being slower and stuff with framerate issues and whatnot.

>>388490968
doesn't he have a day job? with that and the royalty he's likely getting from KB & CS, the man's (?) in no hurry to chug out another game anytime soon unfortunately

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>>388504437

Ideally, you'd fire level 3 blade to bypass the floating eyes, and you turn around and mash with Curly while the blade animation is going. This is known to be the fastest way to kill Ballos, you can kill him before he even changes directions on the platforms.

>>388502229
>you have one of the boosters at that point
not if you're going for the good ending or the best gun

>>388504779
You don't have any booster at that point. He probably meant the machine gun which you can use to float by firing down, when it's level 3.

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>>388504681
Of course the speed issue is still going to be present, they pretend as if that's not an problem. It feels like they're trying to rewrite history. The Switch version also adds in unfitting and sorta ugly fluid physics and a shading system. I think these are both optional, but it just shows Nicalis' philosophy that quality means excess. It's perverted. Not something that should be financially supported. Not that I'd play a Nicalis port even if it was free due to the speed thing.

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>>388504853
You get the 0.8 way before the plantation. The Plantation is where you get the Mimiga mask.
also I just now realized "Mimiga" is a reference to "Amiga". duh.

>>388504562

That's a fair point. I guess for me personally, it 'felt' like a Metroidvania, or at the very least, a Metroid-like game, because of the multi-directional shooting, and the presence of limited ammo missile launcher, those were very reminiscent of the days I played NES Metroid. But your point on gaining new tools to advance through old areas is indeed an important, and I daresay, a charming aspect to such games.

>>388504779

If I remember right, by the Plantation, you already have either Booster 0.8 or 2.0, it doesn't matter which ending you went for.

>>388504885
>Of course the speed issue is still going to be present, they pretend as if that's not an problem.
Well. Fuck.
I kind of like the idea of having portable Cave Story but I guess it's not meant to be. In before something like the GPD Win.

>>388504885
>>388505014
So was the "speed issue" literally just increasing the game speed from the original 50 fps to 60 fps ?

>>388505113
NXEngine, an open source clone of the game's engine, has been a Retroarch core for a while now.
>RetroArch has been ported to many platforms. It can run on several PC operating systems (Windows, OS X, GNU/Linux), home consoles (PlayStation 3 , Xbox 360, Wii U, etc), handheld consoles (PlayStation Vita, Nintendo 3DS, etc), on smartphones (Android, iOS, etc), embedded systems (Raspberry Pi, ODROID, etc) and even on web browsers by using the Emscripten compiler.

>>388505201
Yeah. NXEngine lets you toggle between the two from the pause menu.

>>388505014
>"Mimiga" is a reference to "Amiga"
where the fuck did you come up with that? japs didn't have amigas, they had msx2s

>>388505113
There's a dsiware version of classic cave story iirc

>>388505357
*awhile
Also Cave Story has had a PSP port since forever.

>>388505405
He's a computer dude, he's probably knowledgeable about western computers. English sounds cool.

>>388505456
That port is a Nicalis one. It's sped up.

>>388505357
Why didn't they just implement delta-timing in the remaster or or whatever it's called that separates the fps from the game tick speed, were they incompetent or just lazy for the shekels?

>>388505456
Well there's also the 3DS version which is basically 1:1 with widescreen, original soundtrack, and a few of the extra features of CS+
Only downside is you get the Nicalis translation instead of Aeon Genesis, dunno if anyone made the effort to hack that into the 3DS eShop version.

Don't get Cave Story 3D it's shit

>>388505583
Well, either it would be hard to do or Nicalis is just out for the money.

>>388505113
I just finished it on Switch, and while I'm not a super expert on the nuances of Cave Story's ports, I liked it a lot. Personally I love convenience factor of the Switch being able to play on the TV and as a portable. There's some QoL improvements as well, like skippable cutscenes and carrying multiple dogs. I would recommend it, but again, as someone who doesn't know much about what was changed from the original.

i enjoyed cs3d

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>>388505593

It's also 2.5D, kind like the new upcoming Metroid. I bought Cave Story 3D only because I heard there was a Classic mode, but that is literally just the 2D character sprites pasted on top of the character models, while the level is still the same 3D visuals. Disappointment.

it's a shame cs online never took off

>>388504681
>>388504885
>>388505113
>>388505201
>>388505357
>>388505583
>>388505634
>complaining about the speed when pixel said himself he prefers 60fps

"No matter what environment (PC), if it runs well on 60fps, then I will always choose 60fps, without a doubt.

However, at that time, there were lots of PC setups that weren’t 60 fps. There were environments that could set the refresh rate through the program, but there were other environments where you couldn't. Most PC's were at a refresh rate slightly higher than 60fps. When that happens, with a one to two second cycle, the periodical scroll of the screen shook erratically and this affected the game experience--which I didn’t like.

In the end, I made it 50 fps because there were no environments at 50 fps. Regardless what environment it's run on there would be no adverse issues. It's very important that the movement or motion is consistent no matter what the environment.

At first I had contemplated that it was a refresh rate problem. The environment is restricted, but when I saw how smoothly the game scrolled on 60 fps I thought there couldn't be any other choice than 60 fps. There were several other people on the Internet who've had similar thoughts, but then I saw points like it’s more important to make a fun game than to fixate on the refresh rate. I remember at that time feeling like I finally reached a solution."
https://www.destructoid.com/cave-story-creator-talks-inspirations-sequel-and-more-168541.phtml

>>388505593
>>388505689
What was so bad about Cave Story 3D? Never played it, but they can't have messed up much, right?

Right...?

>>388505568
mimiga as in kemonomimi, you chode

I hate the 60fps meme. I blame America for this.
Even Japan had 50hz grids for over a third their country. And 50fps is good. The differences between 50fps and 60fps really are negligible.

But no. 60fps had to attain such a fucking meme status that publishers forces it even where it doesn't belong. Fucking bullshit.

>>388505583
Why bother doing things properly if no one notices or cares?

>>388505593
Still sped up.

>>388505709
He's not talking about the remake.

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If I streamed this on Mixer now would anyone watch?

How is the increased speed exactly an issue? Any added challenge is welcome.

>>388505753
Yeah but disregarding fps issue did he say anything about preferring CS+ running faster

>>388505848
was ist los

>>388505753
Wanting Cave Story at 60fps is one thing. Wanted the game sped up is another.
The latter isn't even addressed in the interview.

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Did you get the best keychain, /v/?

>>388505787
Horrible animations and graphics, background mixes too much with the foreground and makes platforming impossible. It just feels and looks unprofessional.

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>>388505937
I'd ask if I streamed CaveStory + on Mixer would anyone watch?
Easy mode or Hard Mode?

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>>388505787
It's ugly as sin

>>388505978
I hate furries but that's a cute dog.

>>388505753
>>388505906
>>388505954
His engine's time is bound to framerate. When he chose to move to 50fps, the game was made slower. I don't know how far into development the change was made. Probably when he was sending builds out to his internet pals for feedback. The thing is, the game is noticeably balanced to the decision to make it slower. 50fps Cave Story is a better game than 60fps Cave Story. I don't care about what an author's contemporary opinion about their work is if their original release is superior.

>>388505848
>>388505978
Go away.

>>388506082
I liked it when you can play as a Prinny

>>388506082
how does a studio manage to do a worse job than just one guy?

>>388506208
Thats a cat
Waffles the Dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxitqmXTKYU

>>388506210
If it's balanced around 50fps, doesn't that just mean cs+ is harder since everything comes at you 20% faster? Cave story is already a fairly easy game, why do you guys want it to be even easier?

>>388506308
Well. Cute regardless. Her baring her fangs like that near the end is adorable.
Gives me the sense of gap moe.

>>388490968
Did you play ika-chan?

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>>388506308
CaveStory a shit play Tail Concerto instead Stream bro

>>388506271
see the introduction of >>388496072's pic

>>388506350
yeah on paper but fundamentally the speed change doesn't really impact the difficulty that much-- until you get to sacred grounds, in which the speed increase becomes incredibly jarring due to dem falling rocks. either way, a satisfying and well-timed easy game is better than a slightly jankier slightly less easy game.

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This scene was pure kino.

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>>388505978
alicia a good
>>388505728
this? it looks amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJpeonX0uQw
good thing switch is getting local multiplayer soon at least

>>388506210
Well, that expains a lot.
I'm currently playing the Switchgame and feel like that the way Quote controls doesn't quite match the precision required in many situations. I can imagine that the game plays a lot better at slower pace.

>>388496072
>It is also available as a core for Retroarch.
How does that work? Do you still need the original game, or can you just download the core and play?

>>388506708
>MultiCave
I never even heard of this
I was talking about something else
http://www.ganggarrison.com/forums/index.php?topic=23303.0

I'm sick of all these Undertale ripoffs.

>>388507129
bait`

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>>388506689
Pic related is my favorite scene, personally.

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Sue > tomoko > Curly

>>388506708
why are we not playing this shit right now?

>>388507129
for real though did ANYBODY realize what a landmark game undertale would be? As a freeware game its better than most games released at 60$

>>388507310
shit i meant cavestory not undertale

>>388507180
i cri evvri time

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>>388507230
ye

>>388507029
1) Download Cave Story in your desired language. Here's a link to the pre-patched English version (the fabled original Aeon Genesis translation): http://www.cavestory.org/downloads/cavestoryen.zip
2) Download Retroarch: https://www.libretro.com/
3) Launch Retroarch.
4) Go to [Load Core] > [Download Core] > [Cave Story (NXEngine)] to download the NXEngine core.
5) Go to [Load Content] and navigate to where you saved Cave Story. Select "Doukutsu.exe".
6) Enjoy. Be sure to set the framerate to 50fps in the pause menu.

>>388507330
>>388507310
Is this bait?

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>>388507408
oh, uh, also be sure you unzip everything.

>>388504437
Level 3 is ideal for pretty much all fights with projectiles. Makes everything safe and comfy even just to keep distance.

Ghost and Misery come to mind for pure level 2 sword. Outright speed killing obviously too.

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I was never able to beat ballos, but I always stop myself from just watching the ending online. So I have never experienced the true ending to cave story.

>>388507582
Well, what are you doing here then? Sounds like you've got work to do.

>>388507582
I remember struggling with Ballos but then I looked in my inventory and saw I still had the life pot from when you first get it.

>>388507408
>>388507465
Thanks for the help. Does this make remapping controls a little easier? I remember the original game forcing me to use the analog stick to move.

>>388508071
yeah retroarch lets you config your controller input any way you like and shares it across all cores.

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>>388506708
lol'd

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hey guys remember that code of princess fighter

>>388506408
Yes.
Too short

HUZZAH!

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Hi

Is getting the original translation into Steam CS+ possible

>>388512471
Retro guy here but the original translation is flawed and misses some puns which in the official one are "properly" translated

>>388512593
idgaf, I just want Balrog to say HUZZAH instead of Oh Yeah

>>388502442
Dog fetching was fixed in the switch version

>>388511006
I want to impregnate Curly!

>>388512471
Yeah but why would you want to play the Plus version?

>>388505593
Cave Story 3D is great, it has one of the most satisfying game-breaking glitches of all time in it.

>>388512959
The whatnow

>>388513069
It has this fuckin' crazy glitch where if you open the inventory, then pause the game with it open and go back to the title screen, all the interaction flags from the room you were in get transplanted to the next room that's loaded, and you can do things like skip weapons, get the booster 2.0 in the first room of the game, and get above the maximum amount of health.

>>388513212
That's some a+ quality control there

>>388513282
I'm not even mad because it's so fun to fuck around with. Also, CS3D has the prinny hat, which is adorable.

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Anyone else get all the steam achievements for Kero Blaster?
Doing the boss rush with the jacket made me want to eat my own ass because of that one fucking rng boss

>>388513657
The blue tentacle guy?
Fuck I rage quitted so many times before no-hitting the whole rush on the first try after having a break of few months.

>>388514316
>blue
Black*

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>>388490187
>.

>>>/vg/

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>>388514316
I managed to complete it after having a break as well. Remember waking up and doing it on like my third attempt. But seriously fuck that boss, the randomness is controllable but even when I beat it about once every ten attempts I ended up getting hit by some easily avoidable bullshit in one of the other bosses

>>388512779
Tell me more.

>>388514551
They moved the dog that was originally by the boss room much closer and the dogs stack now

>>388513657
100%'d it and am very close to 100%-ing CS+ on steam, the last few speedrun cheevos have just been sitting there for years waiting to be beaten, I really should sit down and get those last few achievements when I get the chance next.

Anyway, I remember the jacket run being a pain in the ass. The tentacle boss with the RNG arms is a huge PITA, you just gotta get lucky and make sure you're making every single second count when his eyes open up.

>>388514606
Tha'ts not fixing much.

>>388514796
It makes the entire thing way less tedious. You no longer have to walk back and forth to every dog. You can pick them up in one run, and you don't have to go any further than the running sand dog to get them all.

>>388515098
>You can pick them up in one run
Better.

>>388496450
Delete this post.

>>388514408
Yeah guys, too many fucking Cave Story threads going on. We need to contain all these Cave Story threads in /vg/.
Man there are just so much Cave Story threads.

>>388515098
When I played it I literally could not stop playing, I forgot where I got the copy from. I love this game.

>>388515874
cannot delete, too old sorry

>>388507408
isn't emulating the PSP version better?

>>388517036
No, because it's a PC FREEWARE game.

>>388507582
It's difficult, but if you have the Spur and a lifepot it's fairly manageable. Just remember to upgrade that rocket launcher on the way to Balos and you'll have him, his second form gets shattered from rocket spam.

Also I love Cave Story. I fucking only played the game because I saw the Curly Brace on /v/ and I love pale skin girls. I saw the game's graphics and realized there wouldn't be much in the terms of fan service, but stuck with it anyways. After I adjusted to the game's floaty platforming I started to love it. Beat it, and then beat it again right afterwards to get that good ending. Pixel really just understands game design, Kero and Cave Story prove this.

>>388496450
>>388497981
hows that nigger cock taste

>>388518286
>realized there wouldn't be much in the terms of fan service
this is the same game where you fuck a honry purple rabbit girl and steal a robot girls underwear

>>388518704
>offscreen

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>>388518847
you still do her
and she was begging for it