Why was it popular to hate this game?

Still the most fun I've had in a multiplayer game. Everybody and their grandma played this for a year or two after it came out

>>388485735
Around that time an era started within gaming culture to hate on everything. A sequal to a game was not a sequal anymore, but instead was just developers being lazy and not changing it up enough.

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>>388485735
It's not. Not anymore.
http://www.strawpoll.me/13794827/r

>>388485735
This game opened the floodgates for normies into Vidya and terrible business practices like $15 dlc map packs along with incomplete AAA games

MW2 was when the faze-clan MLG XxX-BONGR1P-XxX shit was at it's highest and it was annoying as fuck.
After that people hated CoD because it was popular and it was rehash fucking central.

Funny how people wanted it to try something new, shat on it it when it did and then shat on it again when it returned to it's roots like the fans asked.

It made the run-and-gun game style really popular for shooting games which is super annoying. Basically you run around the map until you find someone, if you get the jump on them you win, if they get the jump on you they win; die and reset again.

>>388485735
This shit killed the FPS genre as a whole

>>388485735
I remember a lot of hate were for the removal of server browsers.

>>388488094
fucking idiot

>>388485735
it had a fuck ton of gamebreaking multiplayer bugs that took the devs forever to fix

>>388486642
Hero shooters definitely. Not because of the mechanics but because all of these hero shooter games are going for competetive viability instead of being fun. Modern shooters knew they were dumb arcadey fun.

>>388485735

my girlfriends dad's funeral was the day it came out, I told her I had to work just so I could stay home and play MW2.

>>388485735
Because CoD 4 is better

>>388488739
>implying the gamebreaking bugs didn't make the game fun

>>388489004
One man army noob tube was the best unintented gameplay style.

>>388485735
It was pretty good desu
Way better than the hero shooter garbage we get today

>>388489004
the whole carepackage garbage made the game unplayable

I wasn't a kid in 2009 so I can explain:
-Gimped PC version
-To elaborate, no dedicated servers, hackers ran amok, etc.
-Added a shitload of stupid kill streak rewards
-No skill shit like the care package
-Zero recoil guns
-Shit maps
-Overpriced DLC, even for PC where CoD4 and WaW's map packs were free
-Shotgun, SMG & launchers as secondaries
-Game ending "tactical" nuke
-Worst spawns yet
-Certain perks not working properly, like SitRep Pro not cancelling out Ninja Pro
-Misaligned red dot sites (fucking LOL) on certain guns
-Misaligned iron sites (most notably the Desert Eagle)
-Suppressor broken on the USP & MG4
-Boosters galore
-Faggot shit like the heartbeat sensor

Game sucked, only kids who were literally 12 at the time look back at the game fondly.

>>388487459
>Oh no! You can optionally pay a predefined amount of money for very explicit extra content!
????
I understand the hate for on-disc DLC, but regular DLC, developed after the game released, makes no sense to hate on.

I didn't buy DLC for most COD games because most of them will just be killed by bad updates and hackers.
At least it's not like today where they will take content from the game and resell it to your in the form of microtransactions.
Like how they added new guns and reticles to Modern Warfare Remastered, and told you to go gamble for them if you want them. Thanks activision. I definitely wanted microtransactions objectively making the remaster worse compared to the game I played a decade ago without them.

And COD didn't start it. I think Halo 3 made it popular.

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>>388489783
>-Shit maps

>>388489783
when you start being this critical about an artform you used to love as a kid you've just grown out of it desu

Because it's bad.

>>388490039
He's right. You'd agree if you weren't 12 when it came out.

>>388488917
Pretty much this. Still is. Bought the xboxone to play the remaster.

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>>388490039
>MW2
>Art form

Scrubs inability to gitgud

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>>388489783

You forgot to mention it stopped feeling like a COD game from then on.

>>388490016
Yeah they did. That one map with the house on the top of the hill comes to mind, as does that gigantic snow one. They pretty much all sucked though.

Unfortunately that was the last game in the series where the maps weren't specifically designed to eliminate any style f play or strategy in order to boil possible gameplay down to running forward and shooting everyone who pops up in front of you until you get shot in the back.

>>388490534
Two of the best sniping maps in vidya. You sound like a shitter who would prefer the new nonsensical maps desu

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idk I was too busy playing shit flash games on PC to really care about console stuff cause I never bothered asking for a game console back then. My friends in highschool at the time were obssesed with it, but I didnt really care for FPS games back then. I eventually got into FPS games with the first black ops didnt really like it and got into battlefield on console, liked them but eh.

Now the only FPS multiplayer I really play is insurgency for its slower pace and focus on logical movement and careful shooting, good for us olderfags with slower reflexes...that I play with randoms cause no friends...
>fuck getting older isnt fun

>>388490534
they were from missions in the single player though, you sound mad

>>388490650
Well I haven't touched CoD since Black Ops, so you got me there. Snipers are the niggers of FPS, btw.

>>388490707
How does that make them suck any less? Nice argument, buckaroo.

>>388490717
No niggers have low IQ

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>>388489783
>-Faggot shit like the heartbeat sensor

>>388485735
Stacking Killstreaks lead to extremely camp-heavily play, and some perks were overpowered as fuck.

>>388489783
This dude got it right. Thank god for AlterIW even if they got canned.

Pretty sure that /v/ never talk about CoD games after it considering that most people here are PC gamers. And people who talk about CoD games these days are console kiddies who finally grown up, just like Halo.

>>388490787
cause its just your dumbass opinion

Next to Halo 3 and Counter-Strike this was the most memorable multiplayer experience i've had in vidya.

3rd person cage match boosting was 10/10

>>388490260
well what I mean is that when you were 13 and you played the game for the first time after not being able to play m games it was life changing. And all your friends would play after school it was top tier comfy. I'm sure you oldfags had shitty games that you thought were great just because you were young back in the day.

>>388490959
>samefagging

>>388491184
>solofagging

>>388491184
>when you agree with a guy completely on a palestinian breeding imageboards that you get accused for samefagging
lmao

>>388490959
>And people who talk about CoD games these days are console kiddies who finally grown up, just like Halo.
Exactly. The only reason Halo and CoD are unironically discussed now is because the literal kids who were playing those games are in college now. Contrary to popular belief, the median age of a 4chan poster is more like 19-21.

>>388490650
estate was and always will be the shittiest map in mw2. that snow map tho? prime time imo

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>>388491447

>>388491179
Well I was 19 and at the time was a huge fun of CoD, having racked up about 30 days played on both CoD4 and WaW. I barely broke 3 days played on MW2.

>I'm sure you oldfags had shitty games that you thought were great just because you were young back in the day.
So you're admitting that the only reason people look back at MW2 fondly is because they were little snot nosed kids at the time?

>>388490934
It says a lot when one can easily win a game with just the default 3 killstreak. Care package was OP regardless of what you get, and Predator was a free UAV and kill, albeit for 2-3 seconds.

>>388491678
huge fan*

Is there any community for MW, WaW, nd MW2 on steam that isn't just modded lobbies?

>>388490665
Damn, you mained flash games into the '10s?
Either you discovered them late as fuck and you're probably an underage or you're a turbo autist hold-out.

Neither are necessarily bad, it's just interesting to me that both of these types of people exist.

>>388491678
I'm saying you appreciated games more as a kid. Id rather be a snot nosed 13 year old enjoying the game instead of being a 20 year old typing out paragraphs about weapon balance and glitches. I personally enjoyed games when it was a privilege to play them like after I finished homework or only on weekends, the more free time you have the faster you complete games and you see them for what they are. Plus your spending your own money on them now so you criticize a lot harder

>>388485735
mw2 was great man. i played this shit for a couple years exclusively.

>>388485735
Long story short, it went full normie pandering and you know how much /v/ hates normies.

>>388485735
Because it was popular and its popularity flood market with similar titles.

>>388492094
So you'd rather be naive & oblivious than to see a game for what it is? Being a kid shouldn't be an excuse for shit taste.

>>388485735
>control+f "dedicated"
>one match
how easily /v/ forgets. that was the catalyst on this site

>>388491992
Bro, 2010 was 7 years ago. 13 Year olds are now 20.

>>388492298
yes, id rather be a kid with no cares in the world playing vidya after school w my best friends. Shit taste and all.

>>388492386
Assuming you're 18+ now, you should at least be able to look back at MW2 objectively and see why my points >>388489783 are irrefutable.

>>388491992
Different anon, flash games were still fine back then. It was only until indie games really started kicking off, then it slowly withered. Why make something for free when you can Kickstart, Greenlight, or Patreon your way through. That's how I see it, in any case. Good ones still pop up every now and then, but it's a far cry from "the old days".

Remember when MW2 came out and this glitch wasnt patched until a month after launch?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCt8Om-IVg8

>>388492534
>Um nigga...
good job you found the one match

>>388492543
I remember when you could hold the care package smoke thingy and run at sanic speeds.

>>388492462
I agree with most of them, but 1. I dont think the maps were shit, and 2. I think it was fun because it was unbalanced. Every weapon was viable and you could have crazy builds like akimbo silenced uzis. No game had done that before at least to my knowledge.

Actually what I liked about the first three "reboot" CoDs, Modern Warfare, World at War, and Modern Warfare 2, was that the maps all had a "schedule" to them. Each map could place myself off of the spawn in a certain place and based on the time of the game and the score there was a flow of where players would be at certain times, who was going to have he dominant position in what area based on the score, etc. It felt like playing Hitman almost where I was running against NPCs that were actually people. I remember that big snow map in MW2 where there was the train in the middle, and if I started on the side with the train station I could sprint off the spawn to a tree-circle in the giant snowfield to my right and arrive to a prone position under a tree just in time to tag anyone coming from the other end of the map through the little houses with a clear line of sight. If I was on the town side I'd instead run into the forest to my right and crouch all theway across the map edge to the position above the frozen river and be able to snipe straight into the opposing team's sides as they were seting up into the middle house or train station.

With BlOps they started designing the maps to eliminate sniping, stealth play, mid range, transitional play from close to mid to long, and instead started making maps just a collection of hallways, alleyways, and rooms. Then by the time MW3 came around it felt as if a child had dumped LEGO on the floor and I was playing between the pieces. There was no rhyme or reason and instead just interconnecting circular pathways were someone could always pop up behind you since no matter what path you were on you were a sitting duck out in the open with three other branching lanes that connected to yours. I didn't even reach the first max level in MW3 it was so boring and unengaging to play because the only approach to gameplay was just walk forward and shoot until you're gunned down from behind.

>>388492462
the only things on that list that were problems, and not just bad opinions, were the bugs, and they patched the worse ones anyway

>>388489783
This. Entirely this. Too bad /v/ is now made up of those faggots who were playing this game when they were 12.

>>388488637
waaah

fuck nu-/v/

>>388485735

Because it was popular.

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>>388486642
>overwatch era
>worse than CoD era
Either /v/ is too young or just fucking forgot how shit fps went after CoD took over. Wet brown and grey unreal 3 textures and map packs galore. Not to mention every shooter-esque game either needing a slapped together co-op mode of shitty mulitplayer that would be dead in a month.

As bad a hero shooters are now they are defiantly more refined. An emphasis on pc rather than console controls(no longer have to aim down sights everytime) and cosmetic loot boxes are a lot better than paid map packs.

The only real major caveat I can think of with hero shooters is that many of them walk the fine line between either being a shooter with rpg/moba elements or a moba with shooter elements.

>>388492897
>Either /v/ is too young or just fucking forgot how shit fps went after CoD took over

This. Either that or just have shit memory.

>>388492863
fuck you for being wrong as shit

>>388485735
It's popular to hate on everything that's popular.

>>388492897
military shooter era at least had games. not counting things like survival shooters (different genre entirely), fps has been pretty much dead aside from ancient games like counter-strike and the only hero shooter to actually make an impact, overwatch

>join game
>team is losing 1200-5000
>instantly killed by predator missle
>ENEMY AC-130 ABOVE!

>>388493231
>join game
>team is losing 1200-5000
>instantly run off to one of my many hidden and peaceful thinking spots on every map and just quietly kill people by myself for a while to rack up personal points while the team loses and go 7-0 or something

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>>388492897
/v/ is full of normalfags

>>388492543
that was my favorite glitch

>>388486642
>a voluntary online sample of 52 votes

You absolutely cannot get any worse than this. Please be trolling

>ump silencer
>what ever for secondary
>SoH pro
>cold blooded bro
>steady aim pro
the amount of hate mail

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>>388493389
>spike in 2011 with baneposting
>spike in 2014 with GamerGate
>spike in 2016 with election

>holo sight makes FAL 2 shot and M16 better accuracy

>>388493510
>spike in 2016 with election
How do you know it wasn't sneedposting?

>>388493370
You and me would have been great friends

>>388493370
>end up going 40-20 or something
>everyone else on team:
>3-14
>7-16
>5-15
>call them out
>they all mad at me

>>388485735
At the time Battlefield was good

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>>388485735
I quit CoD when this game was announced. One reason: Game not Balanced for Lean. Haven't bought or played a CoD since. No lean, no buy.

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>>388493503

>Not farming hatemail with the knife

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*POF*
>always goes after you with them

>>388493750
Lean?

>>388489783
> SMG as secondary

This is one that I think a lot of people overlook. The use and prevalence of SMGs is part of the broader decline of shooters, because it turns most of the gameplay into this repetitive feedback loop.

Why isn't this backwards compatible yet?

>akimbo G18s

fuck off if you used them

ENEMY CHOPPER INBOUND

DUN DA DUN DA DUN DA DUN DA

>>388493954
You know how in some games you can press Q and E to lean left and right? MW2 removed it along with dedicated servers. I had a big hangup with CoD2 for having regenerating health when that came out, but barring that gameplay was still relatively the same. They just kept cutting shit out progressively with each release and them removing the ability to lean left and right was the straw that broke the camel's back after having to endure CoD4's grindfest to unlock shit. Not that it was actually a problem for me, I always used the M16 with ironsights, but showing off with a red-tiger striped STG44 was always fun.

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>>388485735
cyka blyat give dubs

too bad more people dont use IW4X

>>388493503
I never got that much hatemail from CoD.

I found the best games for angry messages were Halo and Deadliest Warrior. Also Sm4sh now on Wii U is a gold mine for pissing people off. CoD wasn't goofy enough and exploitable enough to do things hat were absolutely ridiculous and assholery so you'd only ever get people who were just mad about losing which is pretty standard. For the other games though you could make people so pissed off with you by goofing them that they send you death threats on Miiverse.

I remember when I used to play that Deadliest Warrior game people wouldn't even finish, they'd just ragequit. At least in CoD people would usually wait until they'd lost to send you allcaps messages.

>ENEMY AC130 IMBOUND
>You're the only person on the team that bothers to use anti aircraft missiles

I was playing Ace Combat 6 and I felt this strong urge to play some 7th gen overdone military FPS type game. Are there any good ones that can take place over a large battlefield? Sorta like in Ace Combat 6 where you can decide to go to one third of the map and do Operation A then come back and do Operation C later or something and then the battle ends. Preferably single player.

>>388494112
Oh I thought you were just slang talking for something else carry on

>ACR silencer
>stinger
>scav
>stopping power
>ninja

>>388494313
I usually would devote myself to just fucking the enemy team's shit with whatever that resupply perk or whatever was. People don't realize how much it disadvantages them to basically not have access to UAVs and all their other hardware.

>>388493964
dual wielding the burst pistol was the best secondary by far anyway

>>388494313
How hard is it for people to make a class dedicated to shooting shit down honestly

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>>388494334
I doubt you here on /v/ at the time but there was a huge backlash against IW for saying the game "wasn't balanced for lean" and I'm pretty sure if you googled it you'd find lots of old macros and memes and shit about it.

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>>388485735

It weakened the bloodline/lineage of FPS games like DOOM, Duke Nuke'm 3D, Quake, Unreal, all the titles that had come before it which even made the genre popular.

It's the equivalent of when a genre of good music like classical, rock, or jazz, gets put through the pop-music machine, and then for the next decade they shit out half-baked content that dilutes the quality and perspective of the original genre it was derived from.

In my opinion, the worst mechanics to enter the realm of modern FPS games is auto-healing bullet damage, as well as making it so head shots are not 1-hit-kills 100% of the time, but the auto-heal by far is worse.

Oh, and the overwhelming majority of FPS games now that don't make friendly-fire mandatory.

It weak as fuck.
And it's not just my own isolated opinion, got this image just googling "old fps new fps"

Didn't even have to put in words that were relating one to the other, the difference is just that stark and significant to the genre.

Did anyone else always make faction based classes in all these games?

Like an American class when you're put on the SEALS team, an AK-47/RPG class for the sandnigs, Russian weapons for the Russians, etc?

It was most fun RPGing multiplayer like this in WaW where everything was really distinctive between factions and I could Arisaka Bayonet/Bouncing Betty the Americans from the trees like a fucking Jap slasher movie villain jumping out of my various dedicated places and terrorizing certain pathways with Bettys and stabbing people in the face with the bayonet on my bolt action rifle bursting out of the trees.

>>388494664
If they make the game bc I'll actually try this

>>388494564
Nah, that was Halo.

It popularized:
>regenerating health
>ready-grenade
>ready-Melee
>vehicles
>slow movement and jumping
>console focused the shooter genre in general
>two weapon swap

All of which became the standard. CoD then took all of those standards after Halo which diluted the PC FPS model and added:
>aiming down sights
>slowing down and grounding movement even further
>loadouts instead of weapons on map

>>388489783
Don't forget
>FAL and SCAR had anal rape seeking bullets that could not be stopped by any material known to man for a long time
>scavenger enabled noob tubers to tube noob infinitely
>the reign of the Javelin glitch that went on for too long

>>388494413

I liked just running the UAV and counter UAV killstreaks and shot down the enemies ones like I had a mad obsession, it makes a real difference to the team performance.

>>388488094
Please end yourself

> tfw mastered the one man army nuke technique
> tfw memorized the locations on every map to launch grenades straight into the air and land them on the opposing capture point across the map
> tfw calling out harriers 30 seconds into the round
> tfw the entire enemy team is searching for you because they know you're close to nuke
I hate what CoD has become, but god damn those were some of the most fun times I've ever had playing vidya

Hate it? It was stupidly fun. I remember using Akimbo 1887 before it got patched. or how ridiculous the Barrett 50 cal. was at quickscoping.

Modern warfare started the trend for modern shooters that you see now. Shame that instead of improving on it, everyone just copied it.

>>388488094
But that was MW1. Just because tons of people found MW1 because they were casuals didn't mean it was a good game.

>>388495089

Halo 1 had regenerating shields, health you had to pickup from medkits.

The weapon-stock melee makes too much sense.

Grenade ready I'll agree should've stayed as weapon-switch.

>>388485735
test

>>388494019

Fuck that triggers me. akimbo G18's are just easy wins by literally spraying everywhere.

>>388495369
> tfw memorized the locations on every map to launch grenades straight into the air and land them on the opposing capture point across the map

Making a full Explosives class for that gametype where you disarm the bomb site or arm the bomb site got me so many max killstreaks. Especially on the quarry level. All it takes is firing your various implements into the middle site.

RAMIREZ

>>388495538
https://www.4chan.org/banned

Use this next time.

>>388485735

I loved playing 32 player and 40 player maps in MW1. It felt like real urban warfare with constant gunfire at checkpoints. MW2 basically did away with it forever.

>>388495576
>being this new

>>388486642
Wait... you're saying the CoD era is over?

Thank god

>>388489783
The Nuke was cool af and easy to counter.
It was probably bad for you because you have unkilable hackers that can just end the game

It was a poorly made game but that's what made it fun

>6 hour campaign
>MP filled with literal children
>$60 for the game and $60 for map-packs
>Universal positive reviews and huge financial success encouraged bullshit practices
>Offered little if any improvements over the prior game
>Peer to Peer multiplayer instead of dedicated servers to save a couple dollars despite the aforementioned huge success
Fuck all of you literal children who are saying this was a great game because it was what you played as a 12 year old on daddy's xbox 360

The reason CoD is so big on console because the devs dedicated the games to do 60 fps as a standard
Anyone before or trying to compete even today says 30 is all you need but it never had the same feel

WaW > MW2 = MW

>>388496021
Yes but it was fun

>>388496204
BLOPS=MW>MW2=WaW

>>388496373
BlOps multiplayer was unadulterated shit and only bearable because I made a Batman class with the tac-knife and tomahawks and gadgets, although the campaign was fun because Vietnam.

It's popular to hate all cods
Remember when all the normals thought they were so cool for shutting on infinite warfare then praising battlefield 1

>>388496373
Black Ops was great and fun. Once went 45:2 K/D in one game at Kowloon.

>there are contrarian faggots who think MW2's Hardcore mode wasn't good.

After they patched the methods that were being used to hack on xbox360 the game was very fun. The Maps were for the most part pretty damn good and provided a decent amount of variety between run and gun and long range combat between them. They also added in some of the better MW1 maps iirc at some point.

>the FAL reload

GOAT SP campaign
>that merican suburb level
>marking targets for the LAV

>>388497345
Only mission I remember from MW2 is Cliffhanger, it was GOAT.

Oh and No Russian.

Was replaying these recently actually and I'd forgotten how short the missions actually were when you know where to go and what to do before Keith David shouts it at you.

>>388497685
>that snow machine end
>that massive jump at the end

I was only 15 when mw1 came out, I played it a lot, especially at internet cafes, my friends and I jammed that shit, for young people like us it was the first modern pc multiplayer shooter we really played, we were too young for quake and unreal, Halo was on consoles and while I spent hundreds of hours in CS 1.6 it wasn't modern, it was also around this time that most of my friends were getting their first jobs and so were able to afford their own computers, MW1 was just right place right time in the industry.

MW2 is announced, all my friends are hype, we watch the trailers, follow the updates, then the no dedicated servers news dropped, that was the catalyst, I was out.

My friends and I spent all our youth playing counter strike, warcraft 3, battlefield and we didn't even understand how you could make a multiplayer fps without a server browser, it just didn't make sense, we were out at that point, haven't looked at a cod since.

Hate it though? Nah, its just a mediocre shooter for a generation even younger than I was at the time, its like hating adventure time for catering to kids, MW2 wasn't the reason for the decade long military shooter obsession, that was MW1.

I remember being surprised by the actual filesize of that game.Something around 15 or 20gb, pretty big for 2009

>>388489783
he's right you know.jpg

though I feel kinda bad cause it seems you spent way too much time playing a shitty game

>>388501029
Just barely passed 3 days played, compared with 30+ for CoD4 and WaW.

>>388489783
Yeah basically.
I still got 10th prestige because I didn't know exactly why it wasn't as much fun as 4, and all my friends were playing so I kind of had to if I wanted to talk to them

>>388490534
In those two maps I would grab a shotgun and claymore with scavenger and camp the FUCK out of the main building. Shit was pretty cash.

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>tfw akimbo 1887 and rpg

This shit unironically took more skill then Overwatch.

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>>388492897
>weeb
>defending waifu shooters

I miss the brown and bloom era

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>>388485735
I look back fondly upon MW2 because with proper rules it was pretty fun to play competitively and I was really good back in the gamebattles era.

Post ideal class setups MLG setting to prove you know what you're talking about.

>The Camper
-FAMAS Red Dot (cuz iron was shit)
-Marathon (to get to spot first)
-Stopping Power

>Wallbanger
-TAR FMJ
-Raffica FMJ
-Sleight of Hand
-Stopping Power

>Speedster
-UMP FMJ (If you think silencer is better then you're not competitive
-Marathon
-Lightweight (because stopping power didn't matter much on the UMP)

I didn't put equipment or 3rd perk because semtex, stun, and ninja are mandatory.

Also one of my old close friends founded FaZe Clan and now it's a huge conglomerate with major impact on youtube and proffesional gaming.

>>388505870
FAMAS irons were great m8
Best in game apart from the crow cannon