>we need to destroy the Borealis to prevent it from falling

>>388471164
I think you are confused.

???

Why are you discussing a non-existent thing you aspie?

>>388471164
I agree, she is like a dumb little baby that hasn't gone through half-of anything that Gordon has seen.

>>388471164
The Combine were disconnected from their main force after the nukes blew up the portal so all the resistance have to do was outbreed them. If the Borealis still existed, there was still a chance of the Combine reconnecting with their fleet.

>>388471164
The point of Episode 3 is that Alyx is a fucking moron and Gman takes her to keep his perpetual war machine going for those ezcosmicbux. Gordon realises all this as he's about do die as the cosmic equivalent of a fly against a combine windshield, and the Vortiguant snatching him away is a pity save for the very first moron.

>>388471506
To be fair she grew up during the occupation while Freeman was stuck in limbo, her dad was just lobotomized with a bendy straw, and the person who might've been responsible wants to do the opposite of what her dad wanted.

I can't blame her for firing, but I damn sure can blamer her for torpedoing Freeman.

Stop making threads about the fanfiction

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>>388471941
Freeman getting fired was the best way to end the episode. For the first time he was completely stumped and just went along with things. I wonder if the G-Man would've taken him again had he been more proactive in the Borealis.

Regardless I hope the writer has a good career.

>>388473071
>Regardless I hope the writer HAD a good career.

He's spent 10 years doing nothing, what other outlooks has he got?

>>388473303
According to his wiki page he's gone back to writing books and stories. Probably invested well too.

>>388471595
This, how stupid can people be to not realize this?

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>>388471164
>>388471595
It's odd how most of /v/ doesn't seem to understand the plot of Half Life 2. The Combine on earth were separated from their main forces, only a tiny fraction of them actually made it to earth to conquer it, they were trying to reopen the portal so that they could get the rest of their empire into our galaxy, but you end up stopping that by destroying the citadel and then by launching that satellite to stop the portal storm.

Humanity could stop the Combine of earth, but if that portal opened up we would be fucked. I hate how people keep saying "wow Half Life is SO DARK" when that's clearly not the case.

>>388475674
The entire combine force invaded for the 7 Hour War, they weren't cut off until you destroy the citadel, they could open portals to the Overworld with ease

>>388476053
It's stated multiple times that they can't easily open portals to earth, and that their full forces never made it into our dimension. If they could make it back to earth easily they would have as soon as the citadel exploded.

>>388477326
>It's stated multiple times that they can't easily open portals to earth
but during the portal storm they were able to completely invade Earth
>If they could make it back to earth easily they would have as soon as the citadel exploded.
The Citadel was what allowed them to open portals m8

>Expecting women to make the right decision

>>388475674
It's just a matter of time until they Disonyze our star, they will stop at nothing until everything belongs to them.

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>>388471164
>The only chance humanity had against the Combine was to study the Borealis technology.

Do you renember the radio chatter in EP2? About how fucking quickly the Combine was mobilizing all their forces taking out Resistance outposts and that lead to the White Forest battle where Gordon was the ace in the hand right?

Imagine what the Combine would do if they found out that the Resistance had the fucking boat, there would be no chance in hell to defend it, they would send everything they got and then more until they get their hands on it.

And when they get their hands on it, they could mobilize all around the universe and conquer fucking everything, Earth is like childplay to the Combine.

>we can't have another resonance cascade!
Why the fuck did it matter at this point? Did Eli think some OTHER big bad tier 2 civilization was gonna show up? How could it possibly get any worse?

>>388471164
On the flip side, the only hope occupational Combine had was a more efficient portal technology.

Nuking it and forcing the occupational force to fight a conventional numbers battle (which they'd undoubtedly lose) was the most sensible approach.

>HL1
Gman says Gordon has limitless potential
>HL2
>Gman says hes received offers for Gordon's services that he would even entertain now due to extraordinary circumstances
>Vortigaunts say they have "weaved alyx's life with freemans"
>HL3
Gman ditches Freeman and leaves him to die and Alyx leaves Freeman evne though their lives are "weaved"

I dont think Gman is one to squander his own investment when Gordon has pretty much proven to be one of his most valuable assetgs. This definitely felt like that was Laidlaw's draft that he really liked. But it doesnt make sense with alot of the previous things Gman has said

>>388471164
Are you a brainlet or something? If the combine got their hands on the Borealis they could use it to open portals back to the combine homeworld and get reinforcements.

>>388479363
Gordon became a liability. Gman achieved his goal at the end of HL2 - destroy the link between the combine world and Earth, and Gordon was suppose to go back on ice. However, the vortigaunt cucked him. Because of his potential Gordon would have eventually became a danger to Gman.

>>388479726
Nah because he even uses Gordon again to "Safely deliver" Alyx to the rocket base.

Gordon doesnt really defy Gman as much as he simply didnt have Gman directly choosing where Gordon was to go next. The Vortigaunts were the ones defying him

>>388471164
>>388479364
Alyx believed that the borealis would have been enough to completely wipe out the combine homeworld.

The Combine already have teleportation technology, especially since advisors extracted knowledge of Kleiner's teleporter when they killed Eli

Not to mention that the main combine forces already have earth coordinates. With their new knowledge of kleiner's teleporter (the existing combine teleporter that Mossman developed was really slow) they could very easily just find earth again, or re enter earth via xen like they did when freeman caused the resonance cascade.

Not to even mention the fact that the borealis traveling between earth and the homeworld potentially just opens another huge hole between the two worlds.

Like it fucking matters though. Earth is literally nothing to the combine. They literally just used it to wipe their ass, and their ass cells decided to colonize it because that's just what combine do.

Actually stopping the combine is pointless. It's impossible.

>>388476053
Kardishev 1+ civilization invades single planet.
War lasts longer than 5 minutes.

Something didn't add up here.

>>388479959
Not who you are talking to but stopping the combine isnt "impossibe" as the Gman is proof of an otherworldly/universe directly opposing the combine

The size of the Combine full force doesn't matter if they can't make it to our universe. That's the point, in Epistle 3 Alyx thought she could stop the Combine from also invading other worlds.

>>388480076
they might have assumed we were more than savages because of the portal technology.

like a monkey with a machine gun, you dont fear the monkey, you fear how he got the machine gun and fear that his friends dont have them as well.

>combine notices portal tech, carefully assessing the new class 5 civelization
>nope just a class 0 that somehow has tech surpassing our own
>who gave them this?
is probably the logic used

>>388480076
Humans are sneaky and can hide in caves

>>388471164
We did not know whether Judith was a double agent or triple agent plus there was a chance that if they returned to Antarctica Borealis would fall right into Combine hands. So it was safer to destroy it, rather than risking.

Combine portal / teleportation technology also only works to get to one universe to another, once there they have to rely on local transportation.

>>388471164
This isn't video games.

>>388481184
that line was referring to the citadel being their "local transportation"

>>388471164
Because the borealis has techology that would allow the combine forces stranded on earth to reconnect with the rest of the combine empire. If you keep it, you are risking having someone who knows how it works kidnapped by the combine (alternatively, probed by a grub), or a laboratory with its tech taken over by them.
The only way to make sure the combine can't reach our universe is to destroy the knowledge of the borealis forever

>>388472572
>Gordon is now G-Man
Why would he try to destroy Borealis then?

>>388481302
No, the Citadel was being used to bring in from the "staging area" mentioned in Epistle 3 whatever stuff they already couldn't make on Earth. That's why there are still trains running and why they need troop transports and had Judith develop them that slow teleporter in Nova Prospekt.

>>388480076
>using a pointless meme scale as a measure of anything

>>388481749
>pointless meme scale
any proof on that?

The point is that, as long as no one else tries any teleportation fuckery, Earth should be relatively safe from Combine invasion again, with only having to deal with the leftover Combine forces that still had a grasp on the world and the alien fauna.

Alyx did nothing wrong, it was her sentient gun she was carrying

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>not using the borealis to travel to the resonance cascade accident and shut it down before it begins

give me one good reason why not, fly the boat right into the fucking test chamber

>>388481975
You create a time paradox by invalidating the future you just enacted.

>>388482087

the bootstraper device was created prior to the accident though

>>388482473
That doesn't fucking matter. Historically, the resonance cascade and the invasion happened. You can't just hop on the Borealis and stop those events, because the sequence of events that led to you getting on the Borealis would never have occurred, resulting in a paradox. You would rip time apart in the worst case. It doesn't matter when the bootstrap began, because the bootstrap involves the invasion. You cannot invalidate the invasion.

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>get a massive urge to replay the series due to countless half life threads in the last two days
>but also don't want to start again because I will just get angry at the end of EP2

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>>388483048
I tried playing Half-Life 1 and its episodes a long time ago but I couldn't get into them, the environments just weren't compelling compared to HL2

I want to replay HL2 but I did everything I could do in it already

Black Mesa is never

>>388482654
the existence of the borealis is a paradox in itself, it already is implied it ignore physics and logic with non-euclidean geometry and the time travelling teleporter it uses is anything but stable.
and honestly the borealis could just as well be travelling to random multiverses between jumps, so gordon could save a universe from the combine but leave the one he came from doomed.

>>388483428
Multiverses have no place in a good story, they remove all stakes from anything in almost every instance

>>388482654

listen motherfucker the invasion has NOTHING to do with the borealis or the bootstrap device. the ship already skips through time and space, if it can move backwards in time to other instances (which is mentioned in the writing) then there is no reason it can't go to black mesa

>>388483561
nigga are you implying half life's story is good

>>388483573
You CANNOT prevent the sequence of events that lead to time travel occurring via the aforementioned method of time travel without creating a huge paradox that contradicts everything that happened and would have happened. The only way to sidestep this is to redefine what a paradox means in the story's universe or to go full retard and just say infinite universes exist so no harm is done.

>>388483676
it isn't bad

ALYX FUCKED THE WHOLE THING NOT ONLY TO HUMANITY, BUT FOR ALL THE OTHER SPECIES ON ANOTHER PLANETS THAT ARE ABOUT TO BE ENSLAVED AS WELL

>>388483428
It wasn't time traveling. It was just traveling between instances

>>388483981
women

>>388483764
it's not bad, but it's not good either, it's average at best
>failed experiment
>alien invasion
>aliens enslave humanity
>we rebel and fight

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HL2 felt kind of dated even 13 years ago. If in five years we actually get a sequel would you want more advanced platforming mechanics like being able to grab and crawl up onto ledges instead of simply jumping 5 feet straight into the air?

>>388484131
>premise needs to be obnoxious is complex to be well written

>>388483048
DON'T LEAVE ME

>>388484205
half life already covered the obnoxious part with g-man which makes no fucking sense at all
and honestly never will because any relevant info we'd get on him was probably going to happen on HL3, not even EP3

>>388484167
grabbing would be fine but no prone

>>388484167
Only if he pulls himself up with the crowbar.

>>388480817
this guy put it really well.

they probably thought humans were way more advanced and sent a small scouting party to check their forces and then send a proper army.
Then it turns out they take out over earth in 7 hours.

The Combine most likely didnt even knew what humans were until they opened the first portal.

>>388484167
>>388484532
>>388484687
>hold e to climb
Yeah sounds great

>>388480817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxqIITtTtU
fear the monkey with a gun.

>>388483573
The device wasn't activated until after the invasion began and the Aperture scientists tried to teleport to Antarctica.

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>>388471164
Half Life series gave us 2 great games, leave it at that. The Half Life plot succeeded by being mysterious, uncanny, and leaving open questions. People who want direct answers, "what happened next?" Miss the point. We got two great games, that's in the past, there are now newer games and IPs to focus on.

>>388483573
Except it does retard. They activated the Bootstrap because of the invasion.

>>388483561
Agreed. Negima (while not good) went to shit when multiverses were introduced. Every piece of fiction goes to shit with multiverses save for maybe Sliders since that was the whole point of the show.

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>>388484876
I knew you'd love it!