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Biggest disappointment of 2017

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yeah I'm disappointed it bombed, too
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I thought being a console developed game would have been a great opportunity to improve on the original but it's kinda just as shitty as the Vita one. janky controls, simple combat, and another shitty ending. I thought if anything we'd get a proper ending to the story but nope, they squandered it again

I hope they put this series down and make another Siren or something
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>>388451293

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z03P7Gg0E_U

this game has an amazing, uplifting universe and characters mixed with innovative gameplay.

It just needed some extra depth. It is still a fantastic game. Criminally underrated
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>>388452040
i felt the exact same way but i still think the original was decent. chapter 12 or whatever the chapter where you unlock the new power was so bad i stopped playing it completely.
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>>388452040
>janky controls, simple combat and shitty ending
>hope he makes another Siren
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what happened, did toyama shit on your shitty autistic ship?
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>>388452216
It was a nice game.
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>>388452853
if they are bad devs they could at least do more to their skills instead of trying and failing to make an action game
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It was a great game, funny and with a world that felt alive.
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Should I sell Crash Bandicoot and get this instead? I liked the first one, but don't remember much about it.
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>>388453790
Definetly.

If you liked the first one (despite the controls and fighting) you will LOVE this one
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>>388453790

It is more of the same gameplay wise. It has some extra flavor gameplay wise, but it is basically the same.

What really shines in GR2 are the characters, world, and overall engaging world.
It isn't a pessimistic or trying to be deep. It is a fun and lighthearted game with funny moments and characters.
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>>388451293
It's my GOTY.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WERfDwICn54
cute
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>>388454835
Man that mission was so comfy.
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No, this was
It just was persona 4.1 HD with red instead of yellow
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>>388455187
Really cute
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>>388453790
>Should I sell a videogame, to buy a different videogame? No. You should NEVER sell a videogame. Those are memories that you can share with your kids. Unless you are thirteen and have absolutely no chance at landing a job, that shouldn't even be a consideration. The gas it costs to get to GameStop would be as much as you would receive.
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Unironically Breath of the Wild. Coincidentally I actually loved GR2.
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>>388455383
but Persona 4 was better desu
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>>388452540

That's the only time the game is ever that shitty. But yeah, I have no idea what they were thinking with that chapter.
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>thinks this is bad

Let it die is a free to play game and has recently topped my list of biggest fucking shit eating disappointments of the year.

And guess what? They did a fucking HEBREW collab with gravity daze 2 where you had to pay 7 dollars just to get a chance at pulling a shitty decal that gives you an edge over other players.

Went full fucking P2W and shows no hope of getting better.

Dead game fucking ruined my year after 500 hours of small disappointments leading up to a huge shit in my mouth courtesy of Fucking gungho.

Pathetic fucking excuse of a company in line with ubisoft and bethesda.
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>>388457613

>Free to play
>Having expectations at all

Yeah, it's Suda but still.
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>That ONE time the remaster was on sale for $15 when it was only a month old
>It's never been on sale in the US playstation store since then

WHY DID I HAVE TO BE A POORFAG BACK THEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>388457771

It was on sale during the Golden Week sale.
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>>388455383
>It just was persona 4.1 HD with red instead of yellow

The combat and dungeons were massively upgraded in 5.
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>>388458148

My roommate just gave me his copy of P5 the other day. Probably won't start it for a while but is it any tougher than 4 was? 4 was actually not that easy until you beat Shadow Yukiko and then it just became easy and only got easier. Does the difficulty follow a similar pattern?
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>>388455383
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>>388452216
>this game has an amazing, uplifting universe and characters mixed with innovative gameplay.
I agree, I liked it a lot. First game on Vita was prety good but I thought the sequel was better and more fleshed out.
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>>388458485
It's no SMT Nocturne, but it doesn't really get piss easy unless you decide to fuse some super OP personas during the last dungeon. If you play on hard, I found the difficulty to be adequate throughout the entire game. The first dungeon can be pretty rough, but after that it balances out well.
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>>388458817

Alright, thanks.
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>>388458485
You can increase the difficulty setting if you want.
There's free dlc to unlock very hard as well.
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>>388455383
bullshit. at least 4 had a likeable cast.

teddy > morgana
>MUH LADY AWN!
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>>388452040
embarrassingly bad opinion even by /v/ standards
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>>388459606
>bullshit. at least 4 had a likeable cast.
>teddy > morgana

No persona game has "likeable" characters.
Also trying to argue whether piss or shit is better with teddy and morgana is moot.
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>more than 1M units sold
>Switch owners and normies claimed it's the best fighting game ever
>Mainstream medias claimed the waggle control is comfy and innovative
>"This is totally gonna be the next hottest e-spor-"
>no one played it anymore
So, what went wrong?
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>>388459776
On the contrary, every persona game has extremely likable characters.
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>>388455383
I kinda agree but the dungeons were so much better that I don't even care.
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>>388455383
After playing Persona 4 Golden, you'd think even less of Persona 5. Persona 5 was gimped in all the wrong places, added a ton of restrictions, and became boring fast. My final time of 125 hours even baffled me, because I was trying to rush through the game.
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I want more GR collabs.
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>>388452216
I bought 1 and 2 from the PS4 store sales a month ago and am having a blast with 1. Will probably enjoy 2 aswell.
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>>388451293
nah man im going through a playthrough right now and it is a blast! i love it, really pleasant surprise
>>388455383
the story was improved a lot and the aesthetics are just way too good. my favorite persona game, and ive played 3 fes and 4
>>388457219
i love breath of the wild so much. it hits everything i love about video games, and i dont know how a fucking zelda game did it because im not the biggest fan of the other zelda games (i dont hate them, i just think they are overrated). might end up being my favorite game of all time.
>>388459846
i loved arms. the gameplay is great and i love the graphics. really colorful and smooth. im really shocked to see that /v/ doesnt like it. a lot of people still play it too, though you find loads of people coming back around updates
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>>388460938
>125 hours
How the fucking fuck do you people take so long? Is it so hard to read? Do you leave the console on for hours? I got the platinum in 136 hours, playing it twice on Hard.
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>>388451293
>>388451524
>>388452040
But the new powers!?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=958g2aJbei8
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This was a thing
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>>388451293

It's my GOTY.
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>>388458148
The combat wasn't improved even a little, all they did is make everyone line up side to side instead of surrounding the enemies, and they gave you a "select weakness" button.
Baton pass is a nice addition though, but the camera keeps the personas themselves out of view in battle so you barely see a blue blur and then they're gone again. For a game named Persona they try hard to keep the Personas from ever being seen.
This also affected physical attacks. No longer do personas move in and strike the enemy physically, they just stand behind you and a magic effect happens.
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you know a game is bad when you make a thread about it and 90% of the replies are drooling autists going apeshit over how cute the characters are.
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>>388452040
>I thought if anything we'd get a proper ending to the story but nope, they squandered it again

You DID keep playing after the "credits", right?
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>>388461606
2b kat is so cute, cute!
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I got bored with it by the time I got to Hekseville. It's so fucking boring compared to the original.
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Pic related, biggest disappointment of 2017 easily.
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>>388454835
>tfw this was the last sidequest I played before climbing the world pillar
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>>388462049

I don't see how when it's more of the same but bigger and with a few extra mechanics. I love GR1 but compared to GR2 it's quite barebones.
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>>388461606
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Nobody is going to post BOTW?
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>>388461874

Putting GR on PS4 had its drawbacks. Discussion of it was less frequent but better when it was a flagship title for Vita.
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>>388461606
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>>388462560
See
>>388457219
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Will this be the biggest disappointment this hear?
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>>388461606
>>388462715
M E M E
M A G I C
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>>388462841

Can't be worse than Andromeda, though I doubt many on /v/ would call that snafu a "disappointment".
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>>388462976
What else needs to happen?
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>>388463396
they need to stop doing pointless collabs and make the combat good
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>>388463008
fuck, I forgot about Andromeda I only remember the funny things like the game actually sinking the studio and they had to go to anthem and work on that game. All the while they saying how impressive they've where for actually releasing the game and doing retarded dumb shit like changing from 3d studio max to maya for some reason.
Also a funny thing about Mass Effect is that EA is saying now that the game was good and it's only the crybabies that bought the game that is hate the game for no reason.
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>>388463579
Nobody who plays games with cute girls cares about combat. Look at P5. They only give a shit about the girls.
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>>388463770
Gotta agree with this anon. Most of the GR2 threads after the game came out was nothing but waifu posting.
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Honestly this year fucking sucked for gaming
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>>388464507
Persona 5, Tales of Berseria, FF12 HD, and Nier: Automata were fantastic and I still play them regularly. This isn't counting .hack//Last Recode + Volume 4 coming out soon either. Do you just not like videogames or something?
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>>388451293
Your shit taste is the Biggest disappointment of 2017 son.
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>>388451293
I'm gonna get alot of hate for this but P5 is my biggest dissapointment. It the best example of style over substance
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>>388464680
>shit taste
is this the not an argument of 2017?
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>>388464507
keep crying
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>>388464646
>rpg weebshit
yep, shit year for gaming
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>>388464943
no, it's a good year
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>>388465052
>literally has to repeat to himself that it's a good year
keep living in your delusional world then
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>>388464943
>>388465275
Buttmad normalfag
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>>388465275
it's a good year and you're just spouting muh 'opinion is fact' when decent games were released, but you don't like them so they're bad :( nice nigger tier reasoning.
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>>388451293
Sorry? This was one of the best sequels of the year, I absolutely loved it. If it weren't for Nier and Zelda it'd be GOTY.

I was completely blown away that Hekkesville came back in Chapter 3. It was like Pokemon Gold/Silver all over again.

As much as I hate to say this I agree with >>388464698 in how much of a disappointment P5 was. Even with the incredible art and gameplay improvements, the sub-par story really left me sour.
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>>388455383
The only disappointing aspect is plot and character interaction which are both fucking awful. The game is also way too easy even for a Persona game.
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i have noticed that every person praising gr here is an animeposter hmmm....
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>>388464646
I don't have a PS4. Fuck sony for keeping potentially great games hostage
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>>388451293
I actually really enjoyed GR2, it gave me the feeling playing a game that I haven't felt since the PS2 days. Even if the ending was a little bit rushed, I still liked the setting, characters and gameplay enough to really enjoy it.
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>>388466136
>since the PS2 days.
you mean the gamecube days.
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>>388466303
I didn't want to suck dick when I was growing up so I had a PS2.
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>>388465721

I'm usually one of the first people to praise GR. Adored it on Vita and PS4. The combat's admittedly its weak point and the narrative is often nonsensical but between its artstyle, music, gravity shifting mechanics and character interactions there's a lot of heart to the series. It's not for everyone but I think it's a very charming series.
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>>388451293
It's funny, I fucking loved Gravity Rush 2 but its still one of the most disappointing games I've played in years. It's not quite up there with Zero Time Dilemma and Metal Gear Solid V, but its on the tier below them.

The final act was just way too rushed, didn't explain the shit I cared about most, introduced way too many new elements to the story it didn't bother to flesh out, and had an unsatisfying ending with little emotional impact because of how cliche each beat of it was. Further, I did not give ONE SINGLE FUCK about Kat and Raven's friendship compared to Kat and Syd's and the latter got severely shafted for the former - and then the expansion went and made Raven's entire backstory a fucking contrived mess just to try to justify why 2 ignored the kids and to try make her relationship with Kat more meaningful.

It was a mess. A wonderfully charming, beautiful, fun mess with a wonderful first 2/3 - but a mess none the less.
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>>388455383
The only notable shit parts were really how restrictive your schedule is in the first half, how few school trips/events there are, and how much time is skipped at the end.

Besides that it was great.
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>>388466985
>I did not give ONE SINGLE FUCK about Kat and Raven's friendship compared to Kat and Syd's and the latter got severely shafted for the former
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>388467213
The funny thing is I don't even ship either pair, I just found Syd a way more entertaining character than Raven in both games and then his backstory made me really, really want him to get an explicitly happy ending and some proper fucking closure with Kat.

Instead he fucks off to drink and we don't even see them reunite. Fuck, we don't even see Raven and Kat reunite really - the final scene was such a bad case of blueballs.
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>>388451293
Started it today despite picking it up in January. Was still fresh from the first so I wanted to put some distance between the two games.

It's fun, same as the first. They're kinda like weird kitschy games I'd expect on the Dreamcast. Very much 7/10 games but fuck if I don't appreciate them for being stand out. Also nice to have a very upbeat protagonist with some good dose of humor, waifu material or not.
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>>388468023

>They're kinda like weird kitschy games I'd expect on the Dreamcast.

That's part of what I love about GR, it feels like an idea that could've flourished from that era and yet I think it uses modern tech to explore 3D space as freely as it does - if you tried this in the Dreamcast era the camera work would be nausea inducing.
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>>388468490
>if you tried this in the Dreamcast era the camera work would be nausea inducing.
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>>388451293
It's disappointing that it bombed. It's a good game, finished it a couple of weeks ago. Better than the majority of games nowadays.
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>>388468674
This. GR2 doesn't work well with enclosed areas. All the rubble burying Kat and the camera didn't help, either. Combine that all with being locked into a style that's pretty damn hard to get the hang of.
I had a real bias against Jupiter until I realised how useful it can be just for basic movement.
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>>388452040
I really liked both Gravity Rush games, but can't help but feel like the sequel focused a lot on areas that didn't really need the attention.

Like GR1 knew that it had a limited run-time and budget, so it never wasted a minute jumping back and forth to new weird events and big surreal plot developments. It left a ton of unanswered questions in the end, but I never found it boring.

GR2 in contrast spends a ton of time building up a class war and whole new city that doesn't really go anywhere instead of using the extra time to address all the unanswered questions from the first game.

It was great when it finally got back to Heckseville, but I can't help but feel like they could have skipped the first half of the game and focused more on the characters and mysteries I already cared about.
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>>388468674

Yeah, it'd be like that chapter but the entire game. It's also why it's a mistake to restrict GR to small, enclosed spaces.
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>>388466985
>Further, I did not give ONE SINGLE FUCK about Kat and Raven's friendship compared to Kat and Syd's

Shit taste desu.

>the latter got severely shafted for the former

No, he didn't. He's important all throughout the whole game; you START the game with him by your side and he has important moments from beginning to end. He's a normie, not a gravity shifter, so how could you seriously expect him to be relevant the same way that Raven is?
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>>388466985
I really liked Kat and Raven's dynamic, but I still thought it was annoying how Syd and Aki were kind of assholes for most of their screen-time in GR2.
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>>388468674
>>388469215
Was this the area you unlocked Jupiter style in? Fugg that was annoying to navigate, I kept crashing into walls more than usual

Outside of it Jupiter style is great though. Lunar style meanwhile is worthless apart from it's special move.
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>>388468023
>>388466136
Gravity Rush feels like a game from 5th/6th gen where game development costs weren't absurdly high and publishers would sometimes be willing to publish these small games with really unique mechanics (JSR, God Hand, Katamari Damacy, etc); a time where devs really tried to make games with brand new mechanics and ideas.

Nowadays games just copy each other and use their 'Super srs epik" Oscar worthy story as a main selling point, so GR feels like a breathe of fresh air and completely out of place with other 8th gen games. It's kinda miraculous that it even got published got Sony, got a PS4 re-release, and a sequel in the first place.

But now we'll never get more GR or anything else like it, because it sold bad and got bad western marketing. Just enjoy Uncharted! ;^)
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>>388469679
>No, he didn't. He's important all throughout the whole game; you START the game with him by your side and he has important moments from beginning to end
Learn to read, nigga. He gets shafted in the ending by having no explanation given for any of the Alias or police or tech-ghost shit and then fucks off to get drunk so Raven can be the one to reunite with Kat instead.

He never gets any proper closure.
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>>388468674
>people are actually so shit at the game they dudn't like this level

It was fun as fuck. Just speedblotzing through it and going full clobbering time on Nevi, finished by the only good bossfight in the game.

I bet you shitters weren't even using the motion controls for proper snap-turning.
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>>388470212
How did GR2 do in Japan?
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>>388451293
this
persona 5
nier 2
uncharted sjw edition

ps4 exclusives are garbage. i dont think im the only one who has nostalgia for xbox and 360 and preferred it when microsoft was leading. wish i got an xbone to play halo with my friends years ago but that ship has sailed...ill get one when halo 6 comes out
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>>388470640
Decent.

It also did decent in the West, mind. The articles calling it a bomb were judging it by AAA standards which is fucking retarded to do.

TLG would be lucky to break even with its numbers though.
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>>388470804
Halo died when 343 got their hands on it.
That's like thinking Ninja Theory improved Devil May Cry.
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>>388469961

Most people feel the opposite in my discussion experience. Jupiter has its heavily armored enemies that it's good for and the gravity slide for it is indeed pretty fun but Lunar has teleporting gravity kicks and the lunar jump mechanic is so damn fun to just navigate the world with. It's not really any more useful but I think its tricks are more fun to experiment with.
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>>388470640
>How did GR2 do in Japan?
when it came out, it was the best selling game in Japan, but I don't know if that's enough for Sony to consider more GR

>>388470630
>the motion controls
When I first played GR:R, I thought motion controls were just a gimmick, but in actually they are very nice and useful and give you precise control
same with the 3DS gyro aiming in Zelda too
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>>388470907
i split screened halo 1 and 2 with my friend a while back on mcc. we had a great time. i also played like 10 minutes of halo 5 before i left and it was alright from what i remember but i havent played it enough. coming from halo 4 though it was a huge improvement, in just those 10 minutes
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>>388470864
>TLG would be lucky to break even with its numbers though.
I think they were just happy to finally get it out the door.

I think it's a shame that it'll probably be the last Team Ico game of that style though.
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This game. Not because it was bad but because it didn't really feel like a zelda game. It's hard to explain but when I buy a game from a franchise I expect certain things to be there and they were simply missing from botw. It's a fine game, just not what I've been waiting for all those years.
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>>388470640

Had a great debut week but then quickly fell off the charts if I'm not mistaken.
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Anyone read the manga yet?
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>>388471091

It's not just you, BotW has a fine overworld and physics engine but it still ultimately feels like the blueprint of a Zelda game instead of a proper one.
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>>388471142
First chapter is just a retelling of the short anime.
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>>388471142
Is it even translated? Is it even online?
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>>388452903
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>>388471539
Wow, i can't believe he said that
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The first one was better. The game bombed on the PS4 for a reason -- it has nothing to do with the playerbase either.
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>>388471539
I still don't understand the shipname
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>>388470970
Lunar's teleporting gravity kicks felt weak and awful to me, I don't really like the lunar style attacks. I much prefered using normal style kicks, it felt gratifying to me. And I had no need for the jumps when I could just float and slide faster. I only liked it's special, since stasis field is OP in GR2.

Jupiter meanwhile is the superior movement choice, flying and sliding are fastest in that style. It's punches are strong, the gravity kick is good crowd control, you can just walk over ore to mine it, it's special is good for mobs of enemies and you can straight up block attacks and punch right after..
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>>388471669

They aren't terribly different games. 2 is basically 1 but bigger.
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>>388469961

When you're just moving around town, Lunar is pure kino.
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>>388471091
Botw felt like the opposite of Zelda games like TP and SS, where the dungeons were great and everything outside them was shit.
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>>388471681
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>>388472000
Oh shit I thought SpiKat was about SydxKat the whole time.

What autists ship her with Spike?
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>>388471669
>The first one was better

Why? GR2 is GR1 but bigger, longer and has more gameplay options without straying too far from it's origins.
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>>388471750

Jupiter lacks refined control in its slide and lunar kicks were for very fast enemies that the other kicks easily miss. Lunar slides also allow for stickier terrain traversal whereas Jupiter crashes through everything. Both have their use but it sounds to me like you favored the power options that the game offered and that's cool. Great thing about GR2's styles is that it gives the player options and variety.
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>>388471669
this. the second one had all of the first games flaws and mroe
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>>388472142
It's one guy who incessantly spammed it in threads even vaguely related to Japan Studio. He was even popping up in Bloodborne and Soul Sacrifice threads at one point.
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>>388471891

As a TPfag I agree with this. BotW feels like WW 2.0 to me and I think that's one of the worst Zeldas.
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Anybody else find pic related retarded and shoehorned in just for the fuck of it?
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>>388472432
>my own clone
wouldn't "my other half" be better and make more sense?
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>>388472591
Yeah but it fits the meme this way.
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>>388472225
For the fast enemies I just used Normal Style's stasis field, I found it quicker, safer and more reliable than Lunar kicks. Sliding with Jupiter isn't difficult so long as you switch to normal or Lunar at tight corners. Without it the challenges would have been a chore.

But yeah, it's mostly my preference. I like how tanky Jupiter style is and how it made travelling a lot quicker.
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>>388472432
The worst part is the DLC made it even more confusing
>"Raven is tied to Kat because she retconned her past via temporal paradox!"
>"....so why the fuck does she have a Guardian and who was the brunette Kat clone? How does any of this connect up?"
>[sound of door slamming and car speeding away]
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>>388451293
GR2 wasn't a perfect sequel but getting to play it on a big screen with beautiful graphic detail was worth the entry. they put a lot of care into the graphics, the way the different areas were designed, the side-quests. parts of the main story didn't grab me and felt rushed, but honestly GR1's story was also super rushed so you kind of knew what you were getting into.
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>>388472432

Wow if they didn't have boobs this would be my fetish
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>>388472695
>Remove her past
>Sachya is alive
>Raven is alive
>Retcons the entire reason Kat and Raven know eachother
>Makes the plot of GR1 worthless

The DLC was a mistake.
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>>388472695
>>388473265
>none of it will ever be explained properly
How can the characters and world have so much charm, but completely fail to tell a cohe-
>looks at the director's past work
People don't transition well from the horror genre do they?

>>388473048
Then pray someone draws you a rule 63 version because I'm straight.
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The only thing disappointing is it didn't let you play as second best girl.

The ending could have been better too, but I mean desu it answered everything one way or another, even thou it didn't outright say certain things. Still good overall and amazing.
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>>388472684

Fair points, especially with stasis. I'm pretty sure GR2 stasis is more broken than GR1 gravity kicks.
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>tfw bought it at launch
>only played like 10 minutes of the prologue but other 2017 releases swamped me
Yakuza 0, Berseria, Nier, Wipeout, Crash, Vanquish PC, 2017's first half was fucking unreal
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>>388453790
Honestly, yes. You can still play the PS1 Crash games so you technically lose out on nothing
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>>388457771
Buy an Asian copy on eBay. It has English and it's like $30 physically
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>>388473883
>GR2, RE7, Yakuza 0, Nioh, Nier Automata and BotW all within 2 months of each other

Terrifying.
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>>388473883

That's how BotW was for me. GR2, RE7, A Rose In The Twilight, Nier, and Crash all captivated me but I couldn't be arsed to boot up BotW more than once every couple of weeks after a short while.
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>>388473883
That's where I am. I finally found some breathing room to start it today and am committing to beating it. Gonna wait to pick up Yakuza Kiwami and the next huge game for me isn't until October so i'll probably be able to clear this out.
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>>388472432
For them to be the same person? Yeah I don't get it and it still needs to be explained.
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>>388473695
>I'm pretty sure GR2 stasis is more broken than GR1 gravity kicks.

That's exactly what I thought.
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>>388470804
Why are you trying to imply the Xbone has games?
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>>388474317

If you go for the sidequests then let it be known now, GR2 is a considerably larger game than the first. I'd say expect around 30 hours but I take my sweet time with stuff and hit the plat at around the 70 hour mark personally.
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>>388474524
That's fine. Hat In Time, Snes Classic, Samus Returns, Wolfenstein 2, Hollow Knight Switch, Mario Odyssey and Sonic Forces are the only other games i'm getting this year out of my pocket so i'll chip away at this until then. I am doing the side quests but I won't try for the plat most likely.
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>>388474345
What I gathered was:

>They were meant to be one person, Alua
>Either at birth or in the womb something or someone split the soul into two
>Half of the soul stayed with Alua to become Kat
>The other half went into Sachya and became Raven

Since in Raven's DLC the Creators state that Raven was 'never meant to be Sachya' and the fact that Sachya lives at the end, it implies that Sachya was always meant to have a different soul. But because of Alua's soul splitting that part of the soul ended up inside Sachya, leading her to become Raven.
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>>388475102
That makes sense actually. Is there any reason they never became one again?
I can't remember if they said anything about that, I feel like maybe they did idk.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-LOlxfF-gU

Why did Alias want to steal the sacred gems in the first game?
What was the deal with that one Nevi Echo had hidden in her bag? Why are most Nevi in general mindlessly hostile, but that one wanted to protect her? Is there a connection between that and the Eto Nevi?
Just what the fuck are the Nevi, anyway? They're drawn to gravity storms, but can also assimilate with people, and are somehow connected to the precious gems that can defy gravity and power up shifters.
What happened with that couple who got almost entirely removed from the normal flow of time in the first Gravity Rush?
So did the council in GR2 just have the one mind-control mask they used on Raven, and that was it?
Why, at the end of Gravity Rush 2, did the end of the world happen at that specific time, when there was no prior indication to it? It was implied that the end would happen when the darkness at the bottom of the world tower climbed high enough to swallow everything. Did it climb high enough to swallow everything at the Hekseville level? We never really saw any signs that it was getting any higher.
What was up with that ghost schoolgirl who appeared in that one side quest in GR2?
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>>388475597
Just who was the Kat-lookalike shifter we see near the end of GR2? Were they some internal manifestiation that Kat needed to overcome in order to bring out their full latent power? Were they an actual fusion of Kat and Raven? In that case, were they a fusion just resulting from Kat and Raven being in the rift plane together? Or are they some original entity who Kat and Raven split from like Bit suggests?
If Dr. Brahman's ultimate motivation was to be reuinited with his daughter by subjecting the world to the same time-slow effect she suffered from, why was that such a bad thing? If he'd have succeeded, from the perspective of everyone inside the time-slow field, nothing would've changed for them, except for Dr. Brahman getting his daughter back. The game is no stranger to the effects of relative timeflow, after all.
Why did Syd's robotic hand not get any more screentime? It was easily the breakout character of GR2.
What was the Star Genome mentioned in the Overture animation? It was implied that was the key needed for Brahman to complete their plans, but there was no mention of it in GR2.
Why did the gravity engine of the Neu Hiraleon going berserk in Overture cause it to become some sort of sentient creature which wanted to eat everything in Gravity Rush 2?

So many questions.
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>>388475325
I don't think they said anything. I feel like at the moment there's no way for that to happen, as they're both individuals in their own right now.

Not to mention there's no one left who could do that. It's highly likely that whatever caused the split to happen was immensely powerful, so fixing it would also require immense power and might not even be possible.
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>>388475597
Wait until the Ps5 to find put :^)

But really fucking this
So many questions and more left unanswered and we aren't getting another until maybe the next gen
Fuck this
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>>388475102
It really should've just been included in the main game. I mean ffs it was obvious a sequel to a vita game that barely anyone played was only going to attract the fans. Like why all of the sudden say "it won't make sense" when the majority of the main plot barely makes sense, and the only exposure these games get now are collaborations and other dumb shit.

>>388475678
You didn't need to spoiler all that shit, nobody cares about these games anyway. Sad because I really like them until the endings. Fuck that cheap shit at the end of GR2, and outta nowhere because "lol this is how a plot twist works".
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>>388475901
>It really should've just been included in the main game.

It was supposed to be but they ran out of time. Why do you think it's free of charge? It's a gesture of good will.

I don't understand why the ending is making you so salty. It's not that confusing and it's not that far out of nowhere.
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>>388475773
That does make sense.
Well thank you for helping me understand.
Still hope we get a third, I really really hope so.
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>>388476236
>oh by the way, I have to be a black hole now
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And not just because I'm frustrated as a player.
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>>388476469
It's better than some dumb 'let's use the power of light to repel the darkness!' thing and it ties into her gravity powers.
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Outlast 2 by far
You know what was missing from the first outlast? A FUCKING HOUR BOAT SECTION WITH SHIT CONTROLS also all those flashbacks to the girl you don't care 2 shits about.
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>>388476886
It's still retarded and shoehorned in just to stir the feels one last time. As I said, I liked the games but I'm not gonna sit here and lie about the main story not being that great.
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>Wikipedia lists Gravity Rush 2 as a cult video game
>It's the only cult video game of 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cult_video_games#2010s
I know that >wikipedia, but still...
wew
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>>388478048
>Listing something as cult in the same year as release

Come the fuck on.
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>>388478048

No htoL#NiQ, Yomawari or A Rose In The Twilight?
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>>388457613
Let it Die was better at release, now they just keep nerfing stuff into the ground for no real reason. But yeah, I thought the DM soups would be like 2 since it's a limited time event.
>10 DMs for a single one which is like $5.
>Random chance at any of the decals
>Half of them are virtually useless compared to the default ones availabl ein the base game while certain ones are incredibly overpowered.
>Can only roll for a single one despite it being an event.
>The armor is paid DLC.
I just don't understand why they had to do it this way.
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>>388464507
I strongly disagree. I feel life this have been one of the best first-halfs of a year we've had in a long time.
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>>388465764
you can play all of those on pc
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>>388470212
stupid article the games sold fine
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>>388451293
It was a minor disappointment. It's still a good game but not the jump in quality over the original I was expecting. It's certainly a bigger game but not really better.
Mass Effect is easily the year's biggest disappointment though.
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>>388464507
You're nuts
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>>388480372

It sucked if you like western games. Japan dominated the first half of the year for the first time in what feels like an eternity. Felt like a little slice of the early 00s again.
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>>388455383
pretty much and I was pic related.
not that it's bad, but it felt like i was playing 4 with pretty grafix, my sister asked how is it (she's a persona fan too) and i really did not know what to tell, something just felt lackluster about the game and 'the shitty adults' did not help either
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>>388484431
You're a faggot frog poster? Sounds about right. Kill yourself.
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>>388484431
i wish persona 5 was like code geass in game form. it felt so ambitious but at the same time just fell so flat in its delivery.
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>>388451293
No, this was.
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>>388451293
I thought it was shit too. I much prefer the first game.
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>>388463770
>>388463954
The combat was fine
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>>388485029
Hello vitafriend
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>>388485029

First game's great but I don't get preferring it to the second. Second did everything the first game did and then some. It wasn't the 10/10 realization of concept potential that I wanted the sequel to be but I do think it was a noted improvement. Really, I'm just happy it got a sequel at all that pushed Kat's powers further and livened up the world.
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>>388455383
Kinda yeah, especially the ending.
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>>388475597
>Just what the fuck are the Nevi, anyway? They're drawn to gravity storms, but can also assimilate with people, and are somehow connected to the precious gems that can defy gravity and power up shifters.

If you get all the Shangassi painting photos, it implies that Nevi are the first life forms to exist in this world and humans somehow evolved from them.

>What happened with that couple who got almost entirely removed from the normal flow of time in the first Gravity Rush?

They're seen back in the normal world in the background of the last cut scene of the DLC. Kind of a cop out but there you go.

>If Dr. Brahman's ultimate motivation was to be reuinited with his daughter by subjecting the world to the same time-slow effect she suffered from, why was that such a bad thing? If he'd have succeeded, from the perspective of everyone inside the time-slow field, nothing would've changed for them, except for Dr. Brahman getting his daughter back. The game is no stranger to the effects of relative timeflow, after all.

I think it was implied he was delusional and it wouldn't actually work that way.

>What was the Star Genome mentioned in the Overture animation? It was implied that was the key needed for Brahman to complete their plans, but there was no mention of it in GR2.

I guess it's what he used to turn the girls into angels?
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>>388485835
I think GR2's great, but there's a novelty and charm to the first game that still stands a bit taller for me.

Like that sidequest where you speak to the scientist couple that's lost in time, or the letter fetch quest that suddenly sends you to the edge of the universe.

GR2 was bigger and more polished overall, but I think GR1's unexpected high points were hard to beat.
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>>388464507
>Persona 5
>Tales of Berseria
>Resident Evil 7
>Horizon Zero Dawn
>Nier Automata
>BotW
>FF XII HD

Best year in gaming since 2011/2012
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>>388461638
Raven is the best thing about GR. Too bad her dlc sucked big time, at least it was free.
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Zelda Breath of The Wild.
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>>388487017
>Zero Dawn
Please, the gameplay wasnt that great
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>>388452040
Up next: Freedom Wars PS4 Remastered followed by Freedom Wars 2 PS4 exclusive.
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>>388487017
And Pyre.
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>>388461424
someone who likes videogames?
ON MY /v/?!
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>>388486869
>They're seen back in the normal world in the background of the last cut scene of the DLC.
I was really hoping they'd get their own sidequest or continuing scavenger hunt in the sequel.

Ah well, a random happy ending's better than no acknowledgment at all I guess.
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>>388451293
This wasn't a disappointment in the slightest
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>>388487570

Before GR2 came out I was really hoping they'd have a part in the main story.
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>>388488567
I think it's a shame that they didn't at least get a mention during the course of Dr. Bad-Touch's time-freeze plan.

Almost thought they would be referencing the same technology that Singlor had been using.
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>>388487273

Freedom Wars was the shit but let's actually get the finished game before we worry about sequels now.
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>>388486869
I only managed to get a few of those paintings, and only because of other players sharing their photos to easily locate them. Maybe I should find the rest, though. The bits of lore they implied which I know of are pretty damn interesting.
Also damn, nice to hear the couple got a happy end. Even if it was with no actual word of reference, or hint at an explanation.
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>>388491224
>hint at an explanation
Raven undoes everything that has happened in GR1 by changing the past which also causes Singlor not to do crazy science experiments. In GR2 he basically never got lost in time.
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>>388491656
I might be remembering incorrectly, but wasn't the reason Singlor performed his experiment in the first place because he wanted to save Hekseville from the Darkness at the bottom of the pillar? And that he tried perfoming the experiment before Kat showed up?
I don't see how Raven saving the orphans would stop Singlor from doing his time fuckery.
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THICC KAT
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>>388492090
Do NOT lewd the Kat.
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>>388492051
Butterfly effect. I mean, Raven made some big changes to 50+ years ago, so there is a chance that something or someone had an effect on his research. That's assuming he didn't pick a different profession.
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>>388462841
Expectations for it have fallen so low, I doubt it.
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>>388492090
>those legs
Did she break them?
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What were your favorite moments and quests /v/? One of mine is obligatory pic related, traveling around in lunar mode and the one main quest where you stop 9/11
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>>388492090
gross

a flying girl should be slender and agilte
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>>388492429
Some people can, with practice, very slightly extend their legs at an angle over 180 degrees.
For people who can do it, you can see it when they stretch, or attempt to extend their legs out as much as possible, and end up bending them against the knee joint slightly.
The level of bend in Kat's legs there is pretty much normal for people who can do that.
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kat's running on some hard times lately.
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>>388455383
Fucking this
Biggest SMT fan here
>game came out in japan
>is more like smt , it have a lot of content , the twist is amazing
>play the game , a fucking book + worse plot than pq
Got to the pyramid boss and i was so bore that i dropped the game.

Also is just more P4 shit , 4 did a lot of damage to the persona series.
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>>388492632

The lore implications of the painting quest was pretty cool, offhand the author in disguise quests and movie stunt quests were pretty fun, and generally when it comes to the main storyline I like the surreal imagery of rift planes and similar areas so probably those, with the one where you find the lunar ability with all the bubbles being particularly pleasant.
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>>388492715
>Spends most of her time in freefall
>And a fair amount of her time in zero-g
>Her body gets used to the reduced weight load because of this, she ends up getting unfit

It could happen, if she wasn't also a superhuman athlete and fighter, who can take out 100 trained martial artists without even needing to use her powers.
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>>388493080

God, that mission was so fucking cool.

>I'm just gonna take out 100 of your best disciples WITHOUT using my powers. I want this to be a fair fight.

Kat's too fucking based.
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>>388492990
>author quests
I don't remember why he wanted to get off of work so badly, was it because he didn't want to be cooped up in his office?
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>>388493594

It was how he worked. He acted out the roles of his characters for inspiration, which was taking too long as the deadline was approaching. Editor was pulling their hair out while he didn't care about things like that for the sake of art or some other. But yeah, you had to pin him down so he'd write the damn thing in time to make the deadline. At least, I think that was the general gist of it.
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>>388492632
New rift planes. My curiosity about just what the fuck they could be made me always excited to visit the next one, and they never disappointed.

>>388493594
He had a deadline to work to, and his editor (or was it his publisher?) wanted him to stick to it. But he claimed that he was being creatively stifled, and so wanted to go off and work on his own terms.
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>>388451293
I though it was excellent. Not disappointing at all.
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>Best costume in the game
>Tied in with one of the worst quests in the game

Fuck going up those stairs in Pleajeune. Fucking trying to jump over that crowd in the alleyway after going up those stairs. Fuck that one quest forever.
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>>388494119

Eh, it wasn't THAT bad. That aside, pic very related.
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>>388494119
I hated the one quest where you had to throw crates at thugs to prevent the guy's store from going out of business. I'm terrible at tower defense shit like that.
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>>388494390
That quest was pretty forgiving about the whole "stay out of sight" thing. As long as you weren't actually touching the ground, you could float pretty much anywhere you wanted to get shots off. Also, Lunar's gravity typhoon can help out if you want to clear out every fug in view.
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>>388494390

Same. I only failed it once or twice I think but I never liked it when that shit was shoehorned into games. I have bigger pet peeves (like turret sections, I have NEVER experienced a fun turret section) but I'm not a fan of that shit either.
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>>388458148
This is the WORST fucking argument. You legitimately sound like a fucking 13 year old defending CoD when you say this.

>"N-N-No, you don't get it, it's way better and different because now there's sliding, you get 2 attachments for guns, and they overhauled the perks!"
>"N-N-No, you don't get it, it's way better and different because now there's pre-made dungeons, you get guns, and social-links give perks!"

Except it's actually worse in persona's case because they had 10 years instead of the 3 each CoD gets, and they didn't have an army of 13 year olds and niggers who would riot if they actually did change anything in a major way.

Persona 5 was the biggest gaming disappointment of the decade, up until the recent HL3 news.
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>>388495014

Not that anon but the dungeons aren't better than in 4? I mean, I haven't played 5 yet but considering how barebones 4's dungeons were I can't help but find that hard to believe. Putting ANY effort into their design and progression, literally an iota of a modicum of effort, would be an improvement. Surely they weren't THAT lazy.
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>>388495524
Its the same hallways extended 3x and there is one ((((puzzle))) in each one. Its the same shit but nu males think its perfect. There was nothing wrong with the fucking original ones you faggots
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>>388451293
>thinking a japan studio game wouldnt be complete shit
literally the only good thing they have is art, every game has played like complete shit with fucking retarded stories that only normies think are good
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>>388492632
>favorite quest
CHOE!
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>>388492632
My favorite moment is the entire game.
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>>388495846
>That extra girl who appears just before Kat
>Gone the next time the camera pans around
>Literally no mention of her, except for a vague sense of unease by Kat right at the end
It was perfect. Even I was wondering if I was just imagining things until Kat mentioned it.
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Seriously, why the FUCK did 2 have to suck so hard? Even 1 wasn't that bad.
All they had to do was write a decent ending but NOPE!
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>>388496284

2 didn't suck though.
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>>388496636
It kinda did. It didn't feel as focused as 1, a lot the quests/missions were garbage and they they squandered the one thing that could've redeemed the entire experience (the ending).
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>>388495524
>>388495664
5 is worse because the dungeons are still Neptunia levels of awful AND always the same. P3/4 dungeons were shit but at least you could ignore because they were randomly generated.
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Question for people who beat GR2.
I am beat the Jigra Para Lhao portion of the game and am in Heksville, and I've beaten a few missions. Do the military people from near the end of GR1, the DLC characters of the Arc of Time kids show up? I already have the Raven side story by the way
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I really liked GR 2, also I didn't think the ending was shit like some people says, It actually explains most of the stuff that happens in the universe
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>>388498346
Yeah, the GR1 army appear again. Yunica and the radio chick with glasses pop up in a few missions.

The Arc kids are mentioned a few times, but don't appear in the main game, just the Raven DLC. It was originally meant to be in the game at launch and unlocked after finishing it, but it was scrapped because Toyama felt it wouldn't make any sense at all had you not played the first game.
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>>388498346
You mean Yunica and Permet? Yeah, they show up again.
The kids in the arc don't show up, however. Raven's DLC is basically the explanation for why they aren't given any attention.
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>This whole thread
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So Kat and Raven are the same person but split into two? Wouldn't that make Kat thousands of years old?
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>>388487273
if they keep the voice synth stuff this time then yeah, I want the ps4 version
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I thought it was absolutely wonderful and easily the game of the year for me.

In fact, it boggles my mind that anyone would think it's less than good. I'm normally decent at understanding opinions that differ from mine, but I honestly cannot figure out how anyone could genuinely dislike this game.
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>>388497148
P4 Dungeons were randomly generated? Really?
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>>388499014
Combat is actually really boring.
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>>388499225
Duh? Did you even fucking play it?
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>>388461494
Tbf I had 110 hours and left the game on for like a couple of days
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>>388461606
A glorious thing.
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>>388492632

My favorite moment is when you finally returned to Heskeville and this started playing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFiD-gmHA_A
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>>388498769

Why? A good chunk of it's game discussion.
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>>388463770
i care
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>>388499419
Yeah I guess the dungeons were just so bland and forgettable I missed it.
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>>388498915
unexplained, but it might've happened like in Raven's DLC.

The bus falling down did something screwy to fuck up the universe, right. So Raven has to catch the bus to stop that from happening and fix the universe. But if she catches the bus, she never goes down there as Sachya to grow up into Raven. And if Raven never comes to be, then there's nobody to catch the bus, so the bus would still fall, and Sachya would become Raven and catch the bus.. and so on, and so on.

She created a paradox that could only be solved by the universe forcing Raven to continue existing separately from Sachya, so that's what it did. Now she's sort of an anomaly, because she seems to be the same person and retains memories of her time with Kat but otherwise her past has been erased.

It's not a perfect explanation but it's the best I could come up with.
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>>388451293
The sales maybe. It's my personal GOTY so far.
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>>388464507
are you for real? there were too much games coming out at once. felt like every month there was something new to play.

i fear next year is gonna be stale beacuse of it.
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>>388464698
the gameplay and dungeons were just fine but the story and characters were much weaker in 5 than say 4.
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>>388500342
>story is sufficiently closed, with a cute and hopeful ending
>not everything was explained well, but at least they didn't go full midichlorians
>even got some fun extra content, like the crossover skins and the little animation and comics and a spectacular OST

I'd like a third entry for sure, but I don't feel like the series NEEDS another game. It's a pretty complete little package just the way it is.

In fact if they ever make a third game, I'd want them to leave Kat and Raven's story alone and tell a new one instead.
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>>388496983
>It didn't feel as focused as 1
Nah. I pretty much binge-played both, and 1 is just scatterbrained about the direction of its story as 2. I think it's intentional even. It adds some special charm to the games too.
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>>388455383
I don't really mind 4 with actual level design. 4 was my favorite, 3 only had more bosses and the cast was less likeable. Excepting for Junpei, I can't say I liked anyone in P3. Mitsuru was turning me on though.
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>>388451293
It can't have been more of a letdown than the Vita one.
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I feel like this year has only been if you are a weeaboo

The few games i have played have either been trash or disappointing. Favorites are probably yakuza 0 and halo wars 2, was very surprised by both
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