The Half Life 3 beta maps leaked

>>388450732
With the maps being dated as recently as 3 years ago, it's quite possible that HL3 is still in development.

Of course, VNN is a fucking idiot, so take everything he says with a quarter-cup of salt.

>>388451001
You realize that DotA2 forever ruined Valve since those maps were made, right?

>>388451001
>it's quite possible that HL3 is still in development.
Well not necessarily since the people working on it at valve can at any point just say "fuck it" and move their shit to another office and work on something else.
Besides to people who think HL3 isn't dead, what would it even be considering Ep3 is actually dead and would tie up the story between HL2 and HL3?
They're just gonna make some VR version of HL2 probably.
inb4 the resource gathering shit and zombie wave stuff is about making HL a crafting survival game

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>>388451001
>it's quite possible that HL3 is still in development

What?

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Huh? Those maps were out there for ages. Whats so interesting about them now?
I thought it was already clearly certain that those were beta maps for episode 1, 2 and 3

>>388450732
"Half-Life 2: Aftermath" was EP1's working title.

>>388452165

They are now playable.

Gaben btfo

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>tfw first half life title was 2 and loved it and played it more then 1
>see all this hate for it now compared to the hate before the leak
sad!

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>>388452453
They were before already I think. Just not all compiled into 1 mod for easy access.

>>388451859
die you degenerate etc etc

>>388451859
dumb animeposter
>Marc stated on his twitter that Epistle 3 was his original draft for episode 3, and pointed out that there were 3 cancelled Alien films before Alien: Covenant.
>Valve only finished the Source 2 engine in 2015
>3 years is nothing in Valve-time
>Valve only announces games when they're almost finished now due to their tendency to shelve games late in development

I'm not saying it's going to be released, I'm just saying it's possible.

>>388451001
>it's quite possible that HL3 is still in development.
Anon, stop.

>>388452801
It's time to move on, anon.

>>388452937
>It's quite possible that HL3 is still in development hell

That better?

>>388452937
Think for 2 seconds.
>muh letter
It was about EP3.
Half Life might not even have Gordon Freeman as the lead, or continue the same story.

>>388452184
Those maps were last updated waaaaay after EP1 release, and include mechanics and calls to functions that didn't exist when EP1 was released.

>>388450732
>This is kind of a big deal
It's not really a big deal. The implications are a big deal, but the maps are from years ago, might mean nothing today.

>>388453095
>>388453310
it's ded. life is easier when you finally accept gaben doesn't give a shit about half life

>>388454317
You are blindly insisting on its death, while accusing us of the same.
The video in OP presents proof it isn't. They worked on Half Life related content, new mechanics and such, after EP3 was announced cancelled. This is proof that they were working on Half Life 3 a few of years ago, before VR. Probably scrapped it to start a VR version, and because the resource gathering was already getting tired in other games.

>>388454540
Keep telling yourself that anon. I've waited a decade and I'm not waiting any longer, all that matters now is lootcrate shit

>>388454859
>i am hurt and will thus delude myself to numb the pain

Pathetic, but I'll allow it.

>>388454937
I was you. Honestly anon give up. There isn't even a writing staff at Valve for it to be possible to develop the game, they are all gone apart from very junior hires. You can look at their staff on the official site and compare along with the numbers of how many people are working on known projects (steam, vr, artifact, cs go, tf2 and dota) and see how it's impossible that it's being actively created unless a skeleton crew of 15-20 people are finishing source 2 AND developing the most anticipated game of all time (with no writers). Not to mention Gabe outright saying they don't see themselves making any full game releases without MP.


It is dead. No youtube video or "leak" from some test map back in Source 1 in 2012 is going to convince me otherwise.

The writer left and leaked the script because they canned the project and everyone who worked on Half Life is gone. Nobody at Valve is interested in getting a serious team together to make a game because the company's structure is fucked. Even if they tried, nobody there has the ambition or motivation to do anything.

Descriptions of Valve from people who worked there paint it as a place where people abuse their positions to get free pay checks and nothing ever gets done. They made their money and they don't care anymore, it's over.

I just want to see breen as test tube gub gub snailman

Viktor Antanov, the art director for HL2, left to join Arkane and worked on Dishonored because he said he was "tired of not making games." That tells you everything you need to know about Valve's flat organizational structure and how it DOESNT WORK.

>>388454317
Gaben? More like Gay Ben, am I right?

>>388457343
not true. he left after they finished half life 2 because he wasnt as interested in the smaller episodic games that followed and wanted to work on new projects.

>>388457856
That logic doesn't make sense considering Arkane was originally contracted to produce Episode 4.

>>388458542
because studios only ever work on a single project at a time

>Valve News Network
>Legit
>Ever

Nah

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>>388452801
touhou isn't anime REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

just played through most of the mod. Really not that much content here, just some gameplay concepts set in pre-existing Episode 2 maps. If this is all they came up with over five years, no wonder the project failed.

We really are into the realm of denial response now.

Nothing he lists is at all special. Just some vague prototypes from three years ago in the old source engine, when it's clear they'd be using source 2 by now anyway.

To all the naysayers, if you have truly gave in, what is the point of going into HL3 threads and ruining them with "ITS DEAD" posts?

>>388461448
Shitposting.

>>388452713
It's just 3 or 4 nostalgia fags. Half life 1 is great but I get sick playing it. Corridor after corridor after corridor....

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>>388451503
>inb4 the resource gathering shit and zombie wave stuff is about making HL a crafting survival game
>inb4 grinding
>in a singleplayer FPS
JUST

>Consult the mod's ReadMe.txt for a detailed list of all content contained in it.
I have to download this shit in order to see what's in it? What ever happened to online readmes? Fuck this shit.

>>388462949
One minute, I'll give you a pastebin.

>>388462949
Here you go, baby.
https://pastebin.com/YEDE6957

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>>388450732
>the last known time a Valve dev fiddled with those maps was 2014
Can we still hope? Maybe they're doing it in source 2 and the new hammer editor

>>388454540
Episode 3 is fucking perfect the way Marc intended. Continuing the story from Eli's death in a different direction would be garbage and I don't want that game to ever release

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>>388463294
>there's one autist who joined the company explicitly to work on HL
>quietly works on it churning out high quality content every chance he gets
>he will never be able to complete the game and his peers are unable or unwilling to help

>>388456796
>Descriptions of Valve from people who worked there paint it as a place where people abuse their positions to get free pay checks and nothing ever gets done.
sauce? I'd love to read about how shit valve is

Nothing's all that interesting besides the resource mechanic and the level with Dog. Starts you out in the Mines from Episode 2 with no weapons and tasks you with freeding dog. Dog takes a standing turret that's normally on the ground then mounts it on his head to take out a bunch of Antlions. After that you do a short puzzle to drop an elevator to the ground holding a red electric ball that lets Dog bypass red laser fences. Then you bring him back to the Mines and let him disable the field and reconnect with Alyx.

Resource Mechanic level has you collecting Biological, Mechanical, and regular Energy parts to open doors by killing enemies.

>>388463252
>>388463116
You are awesome.

>>388456796
>Valve is hell and an awful place to work
>Marc says he treats Valve as his second home and still has contacts with the people in there even after his departure

Something doesn't add up my friend.

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>>388456796
>nobody there has the ambition or motivation to do anything.
>tfw no motivation to do anything because you're literally printing money for doing absolutely nothing
Valve has to go in a bankruptcy downward spiral if we want to hope for them to open their eyes
It's the only way

>>388463493
That's me.

>>388464060
It's already too late. Everyone who worked on half-life has already left.

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>>388464060
If Steam had flopped, we probably would have HL3 by now.

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>>388454859
Don't kid yourself, nigger.

You're going to stay pessimistic so that one day, when it actually is announced, you can be positively surprised.

It's not like you're actively waiting for it, sitting in your basement twiddling with your thumbs every fucking day waiting for a half life announcement.

https://youtu.be/OugLBfeOt_s

OLD AS FUCK
OLD AS FUCK
OLD AS FUCK
OLD AS FUCK
OLD AS FUCK

Even if Half-Life is still alive I see little reason to care seeing as how everyone involved in it as gone. Unless it contains their vision of Episode 3 mostly intact. I'd rather just take Laidlaw's plot and move on.

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>>388452801
why are you holding onto your hope anon? just accept that EP3 and Half life 3 will never happen, do not drown in a blissful lie

Its so fucking weird.

Imagine if they stopped making Star Wars movies after episode 5. Valve is fucking retarded and i hope they die.

>>388456796
THE FREE MARKET STRIKES AGAIN

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>all these Half-Life leaks
What did Valve due to warrant this massive spate of leaks recently?

>>388456796
Steam is ridiculously successful. Gaben sits on a Net Worth of 4 billion dollars. I couldn't even think of what to spend with 1 billion dollars, let alone 4.
Valve does not need to do anything to survive anymore, the profit they receive from constant game sales keeps them all in a very, very good position.

>>388465619
Nda for episode 3 has expired

>>388452725
>what is so interesting now?
>people can easily play them
>I don't get it?

>>388450732
this is just some random user mod you stupid fucks lol

https://youtu.be/jwTUtHKTfQQ

I'm glad we never got episode three if this is what it was going to be.

>>388465619
Valve (and my own) birthday was August 24th!

I thought Half Life Aftermath was what Episode 1 was named before it was released?

>>388465619
>implying they have been leaked from an outside source

>>388465874
>this is just some random user mod
wat

>>388464774
You don't like the idea of something new and different? Gay

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Valve dosent give a shit about their community anymore, they ruined tf2 and all they care about is making some shitty skins for Csgo, steam is a steaming pile of shit and is only popular due to sales, valve is happy as long as the money is flowing in

>>388466280
>the same unintelligent screaming and shouting

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>>388465801
That makes sense. Sucks to be Valve then.

>>388466601
why does it make sense to you?

>>388466647
Nda's are contracts to not talk about something you are working on. Once it expires you can talk about that thing

>>388466852
but there was a nda on episode 3?

>>388463493
I'd like to think that that's the worst case scenario.
But we all know everybody has moved on.

>>388467046
Yes of course, valve WERE working on it. Which is why laidlaw spilled the beans on his script.

Glad Episode 3 was cancelled. Although I would like to have seen some of what was described in Laidlaw's script I'm glad we didn't get another 4 hour gimmick session with HL2 aesthetics and mediocre gunplay on tired old Source engine.

The Episodes sucked! Get over it!

>>388467363
Oh did we find out that they aren't any more? Did the NDA leak too? How do we know?

>>388467398
Don't be an iconoclast. Be happy you are getting your way, but those episodes didn't suck and you know people think otherwise bully!

>>388467493
Marc hasnt been sued so its safe to assume his nda expired and valve dont care about episode 3 anymore

>>388463252
>intended for episode 3
>intended for episode 3
how do they even know it was intended for episode 3? it could've been for fucking anything.
also that readme is so fucking small it boggles the mind why they didn't just include it on the project page.

Only way Episode 3 were to happen is if it was a fan made game

>>388467647
I dunno, that's a lot of empty space between what we know and your conclusion. Sounds like it would be the exciting dramatic version of events, but that's probably it.

>>388467669
Or Valve gives it to another developer and they publish it.
I'm sure there'd be a few teams willing to do it.

>>388452751
lol

>>388467724
Its how valve works though. They start something and if no one is intrested they stop to do something else. Hell art coenciding with marcs script has been released already

>>388451001

>still in development

Everyone that grew up realized that it isn't in development since 2011 and hasn't been since. It's over, it's been over for a while now.

>>388467952
What you are saying is that because we don't have a product, since everyone only works on what they want to work on, that means no one is working on anything like Half-Life. This just doesn't check out.

>>388467656
Maybe the creators are just using the current HL3 debacle for free marketing?

>>388468120
Im saying no one is working on EPISODE 3. Like laidlaw himself said that doesnt mean no one is working on something else like half life 3

>>388468293
Ah, well then, I agree.

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>repair d0g

>robot repair

>Source 2 HD/High-Poly d0g model leak

HL3 CONFIRMED

>>388467656
They have the date the map was last edited, everything that was edited around 2011 - 2013 was meant for Half-Life 3, stuff from before that, Episode 3.

>>388468437
expound on this, pls

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>>388464053
>creatively bankrupt and productively devoid work environment
>but you can be chummy with coworkers, get free paychecks while having nerf gun fights in the company ballpit
hell is relative to your experiences and desires, anon.

>>388456796
>Even if they tried, nobody there has the ambition or motivation to do anything.

The created commercially viable VR and gave the tech to Palmer Luckey, that has to count for something.

>>388468580
>>388468605
none of us, likely, work at valve and these views are just fatalistic expressions of disappointed or bored people.

>>388452801
no.

>>388468605
>VR is literally 'POWERFIST 2017'

>>388456796
Valve makes enough from selling TF2 hats and taking 30% of every sale on Steam to last them forever.

They're not developing anything because they don't need to develop anything.

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>>388468437
When did that picture leak? I totally forgot
Because if it leaked after 2013 it means the devs abandoned the source 1 HL2ep3 testing maps and started to remake them in source 2

>>388468837
>POWERFIST
you fucked up

>>388468890
They literally announced a game last week, dude.
>b b-b-but it's card games and I am cynical and this somehow does not work into my shitposting narrative

>>388469052
You would have to be a colossal retard to not think Artifact is anything but a cash grab riding off the coattails of Hearthstone.

>>388467874
Naughty Dog has said they'd be down for it

>>388468902
Source 2 was originally mentioned in 2012 by Gaben, in response to a question from one of the /v/irgins who threw him a surprise birthday party. It was said to be 'pretty much complete and waiting on a game to ship it with', ie HL3.

the d0g model screenshot was leaked originally right here on /v/ last year (almost exactly, Aug. 29th 2016), and was speculated to have possibly come from gooseman (Counter Strike creator and on-again/off-again Valve employee/associate), but was quickly revealed to have come from the 'VR Performance Test App' which accidentally exposed valve-internal depots (and so could have come from any number of Valvetime/SteamDB people who were secretly working on archiving everything they could before Valve realized what was happening). there was a lot of other HL3 related material in that leak, but none of it as immediately striking as the d0g model (the only other significantly visual thing being a portrait view of what seems to be a version of GLaDOS with a human face in place of her articulated single eye).

>>388469584
It is a game, it's development. They're working over there on stuff, and for a long time you could say "Well if they're working, where are the games" but now you can't. They've even said they had three other projects they're working, and Artifact is not one of them.
You lost, don't post again.

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>>388469842
>(((anon))) unironically defending Artifact
Jesus

>>388469808
>valve barely started making the protolevels of ep3 in Source 2 in 2016
wew

>>388469937
at least I'm not shitposting about things I don't like

>>388469842
t. gabe

i never got to episode 2. should i trade my tf2 keys to get it on scrap.tf

>>388470391
More fun than your TF2 keys

>>388470391
Episode 2 is actually very solid, so I'd recommend picking it up.

>>388470391
Best of ALL the episodes.

>>388456979
kek

>>388472710
was this in HL2?

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>I expect you know better than I the appropriate course of action, and I leave you to it. Expect no further correspondence from me regarding these matters; this is my final episode.

>Yours in infinite finality,

>Gordon Freeman, Ph.D.

Fuck that was depressing.

https://github.com/Jackathan/MarcLaidlaw-Epistle3/blob/master/Epistle3_Corrected.md

>>388452801
>>388454540
>>388465971
>>388467874
>>388469752
>>388469842

I swear you retards just want literally anything that has the name 'Half Life 3' slapped on it and don't even give a fuck anymore about what it even is

>>388473545
It's not about complacency, I am willing to see something from Valve if they have the vision to do it. This is clearly the more virtuous path than being a "HOW I WANT IT AND NOTHING BUT" little bitch faggot like you.

>>388473630
Nobody that worked on half life is still there, you dumb kek.

>>388473630
Yeah HALF LIFE RACING WOO

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>>388473545
At this point, seeing Half-Life 3 would worry me more than excite me.

>>388472710
>Birkutgrad
Is that the official name of what is now city17 ?

>>388473717
You are objectively wrong here, but the spirit of your argument also misses the point, tiny loser.

Can we please get over HL3 already?
It's not in development, valve make money off Steam and f2p games now and HL was never even any good.

>>388473971
I understand your argument, you cumguzzler. That you just want to see valve shit something out with HL3 slapped on it.

And I'm telling you that you're a fucking retard because it wouldn't even be half life anymore at this point.

>>388474216
YOUR argument is a pitiful and pessimistic one that says that anything different is undoubtedly going to be shit. That's naive and childish.

>>388474149
>HL was never even good
How old are you? HL1 was the first FPS and one of the first games period to have a full coherent story.

>>388474346
There's a difference between talented people who made the originals trying a different direction with a new one, and having a new one made by someone like RIOT games which is basically what Valve is now

>believing a source from a clickbait youtuber whose only contact with valve insiders is begging them for a response on twitter.

Yeah nah, theses are test maps for the SDK and nothing more.

>>388474346
Yeah, ok, fuckface. I guess I should just make an indie game, call it Quarter-dead and it'll be just the same as HL3 by the original team, amirite? I mean it's just different, what's the problem?

>>388474458
>HL1 was the first fps
How old are YOU?

>>388474542
Do you think making a first person shooter in 2011 imbibed any dev with the same pedigree of experience and segacity that Valve has? No. And making Dota doesn't at all invalidate that pedigree(only enhances, really) nor imbibe them with the shitty qualities of Riot. Fuck off, young one.

>>388474848
>to have a full coherent story.

huh, I guess they were right about millennials and attention spans

>>388474848
He worded it like a retard, but he meant first FPS with a full coherent story.
Whether or not what he says is true is beyond my concern.

>>388474758
No YOU can't. But Valve could.

>>388474848
>he can't finish wording a sentence
I know that HL1 wasn't the first FPS, you mongrel, but it was the first FPS to have a story that wasn't "demons invaded Mars and killed your rabbit."

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this was one of the best little things in HL2

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>>388475295
Holy fucking shit
Look at the size of that thing
Kleiner was literally mocking the Combine's level of intelligence
AND HE KEPT IT ON A FUCKING TABLE

>>388474971
How deluded are you that you think 'Valve' means anything as an entity? It's literally just the collection of people who work there.

Most of the ones who have any experience at all making AAA singleplayer titles are long gone

Even if they did release it, unless they sold a physical copy with the entire game on the discs and didn't require some shitty service like Steam, I would be forced to pirate it.

>>388475606
>>388475295
ive played HL2 and dont get it. Always zoned out in Kleiner's lab. What is this.

>>388475640
You know, like, maybe the names of three writers who have left Valve, man-with-zero-facts.

>>388475732
a teleporter

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>>388475732
>not exploring while people are talking
it's basically a mini teleportation system that teleports whatever you put on one side to the other

>>388475779
What the fuck are you even talking about? This is getting sadder than the MGSV chapter 3 people

>>388475606
>tfw it probably needs less energy than a lightbulb
Imagine Kleiner using a fitness bike to power it

>>388470391
Man

The quality of ep1 to ep2 was stupid good and it only made me more exited for future installments

Damn shame

>>388475098
So just slapping the valve name on it means everything? what a fucking joke

>>388475928
As was just demonstrated here >>388474848 being confused about someone else's post isn't the most secure way to assure yourself as the intelligent one in an argument.

This basically boils down to you being pessimistic, and I don't think that's inexplicable, but your reasoning is naive and pretty dumb.

>>388476156
This isn't my fight, but you know damn well that's not what he meant.

>>388476170
Looks like you just replied to the wrong person. An anon a while ago cross referenced the names from the Half Life 1 and 2 credits with the 'people' section of Valve and there's essentially no one left.

>>388476676
Well, shit... I still have faith for the people who encompass Valve to make smart and cool decisions, and hire out people with talent if they need. It would be worth considering that the people on DotA and CSGO and TF2 are also talented, but are directed towards one purpose that you don't see their skills as that impacting. Plus, the dev team and staff behind Portal 2 and the Episodes should also be considered. Valve are clearly smart, I just don't think your absolute pessimism is warranted.

>>388476954
Honestly, I think they could still make a pretty great game along the lines of Left4Dead. It's more that it looks like anyone who had any expertise in traditional singleplayer experiences has just been systematically washed out

With Laidlaw, Chet thingy and Wolpaw gone, it's kind of insane that a company that pioneered narrative in games basically doesn't have writers. It's hard to see that as anything other than closing the door on anything singleplayer

>>388464756
That''s not the same one, albeit that one is pretty cool nonetheless. Pretty dumb of them to release a mod with the same name as another old one, actually.

http://www.moddb.com/mods/half-life-2-aftermath

>>388464756
>>388477385
they're both independently referencing that 'Half-Life 2: Aftermath' was the original WIP name for Episode 1 (before Valve had formally decided/revealed their plan to make them episodic releases).

>>388477779
I know, but still. They could have called it "Lost Episodes" or anything of sorts.

>>388463606
I'm guessing Glassdoor. Seems like a directionless Microsoft.

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>>388451001
>it's quite possible that HL3 is still in development.

>>388477358
>a company that pioneered narrative in games
are you retarded

>>388451001
maps being compiled means nothing.
Devs can just fuck around with an idea for a day or 2 and then just move on.

>>388478538
I guess you don't remember when all FPS were basically Doom clones

This just reminded me of the L4D3 leak that happened maybe 2 years ago.

And that lead to nothing. This will follow the same fate.

>>388477358
It would be trivial to start hiring top talent and they could probably even poach their old employees. However, their company structure means that literally only GabeN could make that call. The whole horizontal structure is dumb af.

>>388475606
There was a teleporter on Nova prospect

>>388478868
I guess you don't remember when games were all wordy adventure games and rpgs

>>388478707
It can mean nothing (aka someone developing Half-Life content in valve), or it can mean something like Valve working on Half-Life content.
Either way it IS something.

>>388478868
I guess you don't remember when not all games were FPS.

>>388452801
You are just inflicting pain on yourself, anon.

Fate is inexorable, know this and be free.

>>388479038
Just stop trying to take the piss out of everything. Valve are historically remembered for pushing narrative progress in first person perspectives, you can't spin this. Stop being an asshole.

>>388450732
Well he needs to keep his channel alive

I havent been taking the occasional glance at it for news on CS:GO or TF2 patches

>>388479038
>when games were all wordy adventure games and rpgs
You talk like that was a bad thing, Bethesda apologist.

>>388460786
this image always makes me smile

>>388479171
>Valve are historically remembered BY CASUALS for pushing narrative progress in first person perspectives

FTFY

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>>388479485
>Muh special opinion

>>388479038
>>388479071
>being this pedantic because I accidentally said 'game' rather than 'fps'

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>>388452801
>complaining about animeposting on an anime website

I don't know whats more laughable, this or thinking that HL3 is still going to be made

>>388479485
Ok, what obscure fps predates Half Life in the storytelling department?
Not even being facetious, genuinely curious.

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>>388479621
>4chan is still an anime website
That's kind of grasping at this point, innit?

>>388479171
Underaged Anon, you seem to have misunderstood the common claim that Valve advanced storytelling in games. It does not mean Valve pioneered giving games a story. It means they pioneered a specific way of telling them; having the story happen around you with the game never attempting to take your control.

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>>388478379
Specifically relating to Half Life 3:

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2017/01/11/searching-for-half-life-3.aspx

This talks about how 'leaks' of Half Life bits and pieces doesn't necessarily mean much.

>"I know at various times there have been different groups of people that have started things that they hoped and imagined would be Half-Life 3. I know over the years some of those things have had different degrees of awareness and involvement, whether it’s the inclusion of senior or principle members of Valve, including Gabe Newell. There are also efforts that other people may not have known were going on. All of them are actual, valid things that are happening inside of the walls of Valve. To pick one thing and say, this was absolutely Half-Life 3, or this is Half-Life 3, that’s hard to do given the nature of how Valve works. How that project comes to be or ever manifests is kind of strange."

>>388465237
Strange comparison because stopping after 5 would be a dream come true. Maybe its best there is only 2

>>388479797
The underaged meme has kind of lost its punch at this point. We all know there are plenty of adults beyond 20 who are that autistic.

>>388479171
well if you said 'fps' and not 'game' I would agree

>>388479631
Half-Life barely had a story, even by 1997 standards. The only thing it was doing differently was having NPCs bark at you in-level.

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>>388479797
I didn't make that post, but even I could understand he meant FPS. Cuz I am smart.

>>388479998
Revisionist history, drafted my a loser madman.

>>388450732
So why exactly was the internet losing its shit just because of some shitty fanfic from a guy who was fired from Valve for trying to shoehorn pedo shit?

>>388479998
Not even an answer.

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What do we know about these guys?

>>388480118
>>388480181

Alright cocksmokers, explain System Shock.

>>388480236
low-class combine unit to monitor earth.

>>388480236
TB survives the alien invasion as well as the ass cancer.

>>388480263
>A game where you don't see a single living soul and just listen to audiologs.
half-Life did something very different from SS, if you took more than an instant to think about this.

>>388480395
>A game where you don't see a single living soul and just listen to audiologs
>>388479998
>The only thing it was doing differently was having NPCs bark at you in-level

>>388480236
According to Laidlaw's older fanfiction, they were originally a superintelligent telepathic-telekinetic grub species that the Combine took over. They then used their bodies to house the greatest minds of the worlds they conquered, as a sort of backup for their mind. One mind could have multiple backups, but for each backup that is used, more of the original memories are lost.
Or something to that effect. Whether or not its canon at this point is up in the air.
Source: https://twitter.com/BreenGrub

>>388480439
And your view about the methods HL uses to tell a story to the player is narrow-minded, while SS is quite literally just audio logs and graffiti

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Half life 3 will be a visual novel, check em

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>>388480510
>gman is one of the hatched uninfected grubs

>>388480263
At least its an answer.
>>388480395
>moving the goalposts

>>388480585
It's good level design, but the story is bare bones.
At least one of us actually played both of these games at release.

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>>388465237

That would be the best, imo.

the third star wars movie was the beginning of all the problems lucas has with the star wars series. We'll make the first star wars space scene but BIGGER and with more special effects and shit thrown into your face every second

now we're on the third rethread of the first movie, meaning that empire strikes back is the only movie not based on the first one outside of the prequels. That's 3 movies being the same fucking thing with the same premise and the same climax

>>388480745
I'm not moving the goal post, the argument is that HL pushed narrative storytelling methods in FPS and it did so by doing things differently, and successfully, than other games including SS.

>>388480783
In hindsight, yeah, that would be cool.
But imagine being left on that cliffhanger forever, somehow convincing yourself that whatever followup comes next will be the greatest thing of all time.

>>388479631

system shock, marathon, daggerfall

all fps, all had story

>>388479018
That they built only because they had Mossman working for them.

>>388481059
Eeeh, Daggerfall is borderline.
I'm trying to remember if Thief was out before or after HL, and how Unreal did the plot.

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>>388480972

I would say that this is where the expanded universe could be good like 40k

Have it end on that melancholic note, or have a proper sequel

It makes me sad since my dad would describe what it was like to see the first star wars movies in theaters when it was new. The trench run scene especially blew people's minds and everything was so fresh and exciting that people were in a frenzy over it.

I couldn't sit through the newest one because that magic isn't there anymore, its not this crazy ride into uncharted territory, its a refined version of everything that was great before but without the risks or anything.

>>388481210
Thief was also 98, I think still after Half Life, but too close for it to have been influenced.

>>388480510
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS TWITTER
IT'S KIND OF CREEPY MAN

what proof do you have that it is not fake?

>>388469937
Get the fuck over it.

>>388481387
I remember playing both at the same time, and never really paying much attention to the HL story.
I suppose that could be innovation, making the plot so background you hardly pay any attention.

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Why not let Black Mesa devs officially make EP03?

>>388481647
Can't find the original tweets, links to them imply they were deleted, but its well documented.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=559356

>>388469808
>GLaDOS with a human face in place of her articulated single eye).
Source?

>>388481814
they probably aren't hiring anyone else until they switch offices though

>>388451001
>With the maps being dated as recently as 3 years ago, it's quite possible that HL3 is still in development.

uwot?

>EP3/HL3 keeps getting delayed
>Laidlaw stays at Valve
>project gets canned a little over 18 months ago
>Laidlaw quits

This is all well after 3 years ago.

>>388481814
Because then it wouldn't be finished until 2077.

>>388469842
>They've even said they had three other projects they're working
Three other vr projects anon
as in niche shit hardly 10% of their fans can by

How do I know these are legit?

>>388482458
I'd give them another 10 years.
An episode wouldn't take as long to play through, and more assets already exist, while much of the assets from Black Mesa were made from scratch.
But it's still them, so 10 years is an appropriate estimation.

>>388482609
Watch the video again if you missed it.

>believing Tyler 'the tranny' Mcvicker

Hue

>>388450732
Bailey, Wolpaw, Faliszek, Backman, that dude from Dishonored, Laidlaw, all of them are gone
How many "creative" people are left in valve?

>>388483138
no one. valve is all about keeping steam running, now. they're no longer game developers.

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>>388481953
>gladoshumanface.vmesh

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>>388483549
I am sure a lot of people at Valve are creative, if but unsung. Maybe one day they'll get their chance to shine.

>>388483759
Someone has to write the "lore" for Artifact.
Not even kidding here. Apparently they already made like 900 cards.

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>>388483759
There's a difference between running a distribution platform and making a sequel to a game where all the original talent left years before you came on board

Why the fuck would they care?

>>388483994
>Running steam =/= making Half-Life 3 with the original team
I don't get the point you're illustrating? Not everyone is as scared of trying things, or doing things differently as you are.

>>388484105

That they have no reason to work on a project they have no personal investment in, in an environment that encourages smaller, focused projects with quick turnaround?

There's a difference between trying new things and doing things that are outside of your expertise. I work with budgets, I do not do field surveys.

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>>388483885
Nah, there's nowhere near 800 cards.

The artist commissioned to make the placeholder images for Artifact cards tweeted that she made "800 cards" for Artifact. Later she clarified that 800 is just the number she uses when she means "a lot", and the real number of cards she was commissioned for was much smaller.

>>388484283
>Valve
>Not having personal investment in their franchises
Just because they don't have a sequel out doesn't mean they don't care. In fact, it may be argued that the lack of a sequel means that they felt nothing was yet deserving of being the vehicle that delivered HL3 to fans. I am sure everyone at Valve, regardless if they were there for HL1's launch or not, are a fan of HL and are as invested in it as any fan is.

>>388484390
Pretty pedantic, but obviously there's a lot and will be more in the future, and someone's writing lore for them. What's your point again?

>>388483885
>"lore"
>Artifact
I don't understand why anyone would go to the effort for such a thing.

I really want someone to just come fourth and spill the beans over what happened with Half Life 3's development.

Why can't this just happen already.

>>388484568
>"lore"
>warcraft
>"lore"
>DOTA
>"lore"
>magic the gathering

>>388484390
Why the fuck did she use "800" cards? What a stupid-ass number to use as "a lot", what the fuck fucking whore.

Also what >>388484559
said

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>>388484485
I'm sure that's why no word has been made on it since episode 2 has been released and why the entire original team that has been working on it has left the company.

>>388484629
shit's still up in the air

>>388484630
Want to expand that argument a bit?

>>388484645
Just because no word about it has come out doesn't mean they don't want to do anything with the franchise. You're disappointed -if you are actually a fan, and not just shitposting- but that's not the only conclusion to draw, given what they HAVE said about how they communicate to their fans about games and their development process.

>>388484675
What do you mean?

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>>388484559
I just wanted to point out that the tumblr artist is a dumb whore.

The lead writer seems to be Steve Jaros, ex-Saints Row writer.
https://twitter.com/SteveJaros/status/895092407972147200

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>>388484629
it died a slow, neglectful death as valve focused on things that were more important to them and their changing interests.

Portal 2 was basically the love-letter and their last full-scale singleplayer game and they've moved on.

>>388484925
your optimism is endearing but I have no faith that a project that has been stalled for so long and has had so many different cooks take a dab at the recipe will be resemble anything that is coherent and lives up to people's expectations.

I'd rather it die with potential than become like DNF

>>388484946
huh?

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>>388482663
So if they have started in 2007 we would play it today....

Instead, valve wasted time and made hats

>>388485092
yeah, women have wronged me in the past too.

>>388485106
I believe that the recipe does not need to be the same, and it could still recognizably be a Half-Life. It could be better, in some ways. Worse, too, of course.

It just doesn't need the same cooks and the same ingredients to exist and NOT be some dragged and tired DNF thing.

>>388479881
made me sad

it's bullshit

gabe should be a boss and slap some sense into his pot-smoking freeloaders employees and get them to do some fucking work

>>388485106
>Portal 2 was basically the love-letter and their last full-scale singleplayer game and they've moved on.
they took the le cake xd circlejerking and ramped it up to Gearbox levels
love letter my ass
>>388485232
>I don't give a shit who it is made by as long as it has the Valve logo on it
fucking sheep

>>388465898
>if this is what it was going to be
>prototype
>if this is what it was going to be
>PROTOTYPE

>>388485365
The people at Valve have, thus far, a tremendous track record for success and great design. I am sure that the people currently in their employ, as well as anyone in the future they may hire, would be like-minded and as successful. They have a pedigree.

>>388485483
their pedigree left last year
>like minded
with the state of valve for the past five or six years, :"like minded" hires would be programmers with a business background

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>>388485365

I thought it did fine enough not becoming a meme machine like BL2, and portal 2 added more as a sequel rather than undo everything BL1 was about, like BL2 did.

I didn't get the hatred people felt for BL2, I just felt like it wasn't the same world and humor of the first game, which was this tongue-in-cheek dark humor that was ultimately about everyone being broken down and reduced to nothing by a violent, insane world.

The sequel became camp and dumb

>>388485676
>care about my special opinion!!

>>388485719
Yeah, Portal 2 is fantastic. One of Valve's strongest firstperson campaigns, and it's incredibly well designed and effective. I think it kind of gets under-discussed as far as Valve games go. It's really impressive still.

t. just finished replaying it like 20 min ago

This sums up my experience desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPpBuHdqT4s

>>388470391
Episode 2 is legit good.

>>388487010
Until you get to the final battle. Then it's shit.