FFXV PC Workshop Support

they want every type of audience. Now we need King's Knight to have also the gacha fags.

They need to recoup losses.

>>388443963
Since when were SE having losses? Most of their games sell well, even when they're shit.

>>388443315
ok, what could you actually mod?

only model replacements?, music replacement, despite the good soundtrack?, texture replacement? performace patches?

thats all!, i dont think this game is gonna be planned for actual modding, as in give the players access to the actual devtools to allow for:

>create your story
>create your cutscenes
>create your monsters, characters, well, EVERYTHING!

i love PC and i love modding, but here, its just pointless, i dont think anything will come out of this...

oh, and you may think 'we dont need the tools, we can figure this shit out ourselves!', well, let me ask you this:

will people be interested to work in the pc port of a game that many considered horrendous, even if really is just 'bad' at best?

>>388443315
most FF games
>game is made from the get go targeting console or console dev kit
XV and Tabata's dumb ass
>game is made targeting high end PC until last 6 months of development (2 of which were from an emergency last minute delay) when feverishly things are thrown onto consoles

>>388443963
>I don't know what I'm talking about so let me just throw this completely uninformed post into this thread to appear smart

Stop shilling this garbage

>>388445303
The big thing is people will put the guest party members in as full time party members. There will likely be a mod day one to have Cor, Aranea, and Iris in with you all at once for the whole game

Plus we'll probably get mods to control party members in game at some point

>>388445303
some nig anon from the other thread posted source saying they are looking in for tools to edit map too

>>388443315
I don't give a shit about FFXV, but an important jap title getting a workshop is great news, the hell are you people bitching about.

>>388444983
>>388443963
ffxiv and dragon quest pretty much make more money than SE ever needs

>>388445303
Tabata has implied that he wants people to be able to mod in their own quests though. While we don't know how much freedom he'll give with regards to that or if he'll even make true to his word, that combined with news like this makes it seem like we might be able to do more than just model swaps.
>will people be interested to work in the pc port of a game that many considered horrendous, even if really is just 'bad' at best?
Unfortunately FFXV is probably the most popular FF game at the moment. Its the most Westernized and extremely casualized, so I imagine it would probably garner a lot more interest. This extra focus on PC also means it'll attract people who are just looking for something that uses their PC's power and looks fancy.

>>388443315
How old is "older PCs"?
Bet my older PC couldn't run it.

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>>388445421
But I'm excited for this garbage.
I like FF games and I primarily play games on PC so I want to see what kind of trainwreck of a game this winds up being since I have yet to play it, and/or see if its like Skyrim where its left up to modders to make an actually good game out of it. I mean its a Final Fantasy game. Even if its shit I feel like I've gotta play it.

>>388445804
ok, then, as a Pc user, im not against the game, i just say as things are now, its pointless, but if this modding plan can convince people to buy the game and perfect it to be a better game, then Go fucking ahead!

>>388445834
Probably old as in "comparable to PS4s and Xbox Ones".
Like if you've got a GTX 970 and an i5 or something you're probably good to go.

>>388445976
not even mods will make this game good, it might becoming playable though.

>>388443315
It irritates me to no end. The game is bad, but they are doing everything right with the port so far. Imagine if the game had been GOOD. Fucking goddamn.

>>388446175
They should've done this with XII: The Zodiac Age instead

Does this mean we can expect the highly detailed chocobo pussy mods day one?

>>388446175
yeah it's amazing that even after all this I still won't buy the game, it was just so fucking bad.

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>170GB

>>388446346
Supposedly that was an error

>>388445834
i have a 8gb pc with a Geforce 960 and intel core5 at 3.60 gigs, and i think its not gonna be able to run it.

>>388445976
as someone who has seen the story, ill say that its not good, 'NOT GOOD' actually meaning, 'NOT HORRENDOUS', 'NOT DESPICABLE', 'NOT UNPLAYABLE'.

the game was hyped to hell and back for its visuals, but the story couldnt support them well, however, im sure other people could argue about that, it all depends on this: how interested are you really? do you like the premise or the characters?

The engine probably supports it. The others would probably require some amount of rewriting.

>>388443315
>Why of all FF games...did they choose XV?
Because Square knows XIII and its sequels are trash and everything older than that is weird up-ports of jank ass old programming done by third parties.

If people in Square proper were given the time, money and tools we'd probably have nice ports of the first 12 games instead of the weird menagerie of mobileshit and HD remasters we have. Instead it's low priority so that shit gets farmed out.

>>388446395
>the game was hyped to hell and back for its visuals,
???? what planet are you from? it was downgraded hardcore and people shat on it for that for years.

>i5-4690k
>16GB RAM
>390 GPU

Am I the boned or am I good to go for FFXV at say, medium settings?

I don't care how it looks, just so long as it runs well.

>>388443963

This but they're trying to hard. The game is a fucking 80 on metacritic with all that fucking hype. The cast is a 4 man assuage fest of gay looking pop star faggots who wear leather.

So the best they can do is: N-Nude mods guys if you want (funny because only hot girl is a fucking npc). M-Mods maybe. It's like they finally realize waifus sell games and should be the protags with one funny guy

>>388445976
The biggest issues with the story is that its really half assed and the pacing is terrible. Things just kind of go to shit about three quarters through for "reasons" and then you meander for a couple hours then you go to the final dungeon and thats it.

Its also ESPECIALLY jarring how your buddies will take off during the story for reasons that are so disgustingly obviously "buy this characters DLC to find out what he was doing!!!!" shit that I almost dropped the game right there when it first happened. Only one of them happens remotely organically. Its fucking stupid.

Combine that with most hunts being repetitive bullshit, the gameplay being pretty meh, and a host of other poor choices, and you get a really crappy game.

People complain about a lot of FF games sucking for some reason or another, but no other FF game failed as completely as this one on so many levels.

>>388446567
really?, i thought that peple were hyped when they released the demos.

>Steam Workshop
Nani? For what purpose rather?
>100000 revenants.wad - FFXV Edition.
I know sqeenix bet everything on it, they still support it in form of timed quests and events (chocobo festival and upcoming asscreed collab), but the game wasn't made to last. There's postgame, sure, but it's the same shit and by the time I've finished main quest, I was already bored as fuck. Episodes did bring a bit of spice with them, but none of it made into base game.

>>388446606
>390

>>388446658
Maybe we can get mods of the multiple female temporary party members and then get slut mods of them. That would be more bearable. Dragoon girl and Imouto porn mods would make things a bit better for sure.

>>388446738
maybe on gamefaqs and even they shit on the game now.

they need to make sure they know how to port games once they get around to porting the best game in the series, FF12

>>388447006
FF12 sucks.

>>388447064
okay shitto retard. your opinion matters.

Never played the game before, but isn't Noctis the only playable member out of the 4 characters in the main story ?

It'll be nice to play as the other characters too with a mod.

>>388446346
that's nothing compared to my porn folder

>>388446770
the concept of modding according to PC is:

if a game is good enough and its moddable enough it will ALWAYS last.

take a look at the original DOOM for example, despite being a simple game, its still modded even today, and thanks to ZDOOM, the doom engine is basically a 2.5d Gamemaker, and im not joking here (heres a little proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8B_zL84dPo).

FFXV has that same potential if the modtools or whatever they do give the players enough liberty. and if they do, FFXV can last forever.

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>>388446395
I like the trailers for when it was Versus XIII, but I don't like what I've seen of it currently character wise. I don't actually know much about the premise other than that Noctis apparently has his throne stolen from him in royalty and that the government is after him.
>>388447064
Nah, 12 is great. Has the most content of any FF game to my knowledge, and the content is actually meaningful rather than just being full of fetch quests. Ivalice's world is interesting.

>>388447240
FF15 isn't good enough. And it won't be moddable enough either.

>>388447314
well, thats what i said, IF they give the players enough liberty.

who knows if they are gonna do that.

>>388447161
You could just take the character episode moves and use them in the main story.

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Enjoy your new game, PC players.

>>388447615
Thanks Tabata
In the future, could you let Nomura keep his games though?

>>388447287
Nothing is meaningful in the game though the story and writing is fucking horrible. Hunts are the definition of shitty fetch quests.

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>>388446365
>composer accidentally leaks XII remaster by admitting he works on new soundtrack for it
>forced to make an official statement that there is no upcoming XII remaster

>Tabata slips up and reveals XV needs to sell 10 million copies to break even
>forced to make an official correction that his previous statement was incorrect

>XV on PC requires 170gb
>lol no, it's a mistake, please stay hyped and preorder our game :^)

See a pattern?

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>and will run on older PCs
>my PC is still too far behind to run it

>>388447314
>And it won't be moddable enough either
Glad to know Tabata is arround to answer our questions.

>>388447314
>And it won't be moddable enough either.
I honestly think it will be moddable enough but you're right about it being so shit nobody will mod it.

>>388447240
And this is stupid, Witcher games have mod tools and they didn't last, most PC gamers won't play the first game at all as an example. Same goes for tons of moddable video games.

>>388447934
But the hunts add to the world though. For example, one of the hunts is to find a chubacabra-like creature in Bhujerba and save a child there. It teaches players about the myths and legends people have in the world.

Hunts against marks like Gilgamesh who stole Montblanc's sword or the hunt to get ambushed by B'gamnan all add to the characters as well. Most of the hunts in the game had some relevancy to the characters or world of the game.

Also while I'm probably not the best judge of its writing, it at least had a lot of subtlety with regards to character interactions, such as Balthier wincing anytime Cid is mentioned. It hinted at his relationship long before it was actually revealed. A lot of other FF games just outright tell you what characters are thinking and feeling rather than being silent about it and showing it through facial expressions or other means, and that's good writing.

>>388443315

What other game WOULD have those things? Outside of FF13 every other title is fairly old, even the original 13 is 8 years old at this point.

They did put effort into porting FF9 and 10+10-2 to PC, going as far as redoing the main cast models for FF9. That right there is more effort than they've ever put into a port.

>>388448335
But IX also had its movement changed to 8 directional movement, which was a downgrade from the PS1 version. A small complaint, but still, its not like IX was a total improvement of a port.

>>388448296
>actually defending FF12's "muh myths" and fetch quests that are literally irrelevant
FF12 fanboys are so deprived. Like I can't even argue with you taking that shit so seriously. It's cool you enjoy it but my god man.

Just know that it's literally just you and a very few others.

> it at least had a lot of subtlety with regards to character interactions, such as Balthier wincing anytime Cid is mentioned. I
This is attention to facial animation detail and yeah FF12 was amazing for that, too bad the actual writing, story, and characters were all really fucking boring. It's a JRPG with ultra high production values that you don't even see in this modern era, but it's still a shitty game that wasn't completed and lost its direction midway through development.

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>>388448667
>downgraded from ps1
the fuck

>>388443315
It's the first FF game that's been ported to PC that wasn't made in an era where most of Japan was on Windows 98 or XP

>>388449382
type 0

>>388443315
>Why of all the FF games Square could go all out on, did they choose XV as the one to make a fancy port for? No other FF game has workshop support.
They want the fans to step in and help clean up this mess, I assume

>>388449149
I'm just referring to the movement. Its overall better than the PS1 version. Its just that the movement is worse since you have more free movement in the PS1 version.

>>388449479
Port of a port.

>>388449479
>2011

XP era

>>388448335
>going as far as redoing the main cast models for FF9
Any comparison pics?
And putting aside FFX being an okay port, the HD game itself is trash.

>>388448667
This makes me not want to play it though, might try it though.

>>388449647
>>388449667
Type 0 was remade using modern tools, I'm not talking about the PSP game.

>>388446797
what about it?

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>>388449747

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>>388449747
>>388449845

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>>388449845
>>388449907
>>388449747

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>>388443315
you forgot they are looking into setting up a ingame editor for pc players

>>388449845
>>388449907
That's such a small change lmao.
>>388449963
I actually like the right more here.

Thanks man.

>>388443315
Isn't it obvious? They didn't think their games would sell well on PC. Now that they know they do they'll put more effort into it.

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I have to get it off my chest.
I'm playing through it at this very moment. This game is in spare parts, spare parts tied with strings.
It's great and awful at the same time how can i say, they keep loading me into standalone areas but i need more than loading screens to explain the narrative FUCK. They keep showing me characters in cutscenes i have no idea who they are they show up out of nowhere then go away and it's back to camping fun chocobo riding.
The god damn sidequests cluttering my journal, fuck you cid.
I just beat leviathan and i was a super saiyan OF CONFUSION. Who even is lunafreya? Who's luna's brother? The chancellor? Am i supposed to feel things?
All this makes me mad because the time i spend goofing around in Duscae doing hunts, silly quests, riding chocobro, gathering ingredients for tasty looking meals, fishing was the best time i had in this game. Duscae is huge and beautifully crafted by hand but it's impossible to hold a narrative in these conditions. I am enjoying the train section so far because the linearity allows for some story to happen, maybe i'll finally be able to give a damn about these guys.
All in all FFXV obviously had huge amounts of effort and care put into it just not in the right places as a result it feels all disconnected and clashes with itself. I have to see this to the end, thanks for making me buy 3 fucking DLC by the way.

>>388450032
>I like the Hidamari Sketch face

Dude come on.

>>388450328
This is what happens when you have a director switch this late into development, especially after the last guy promised unfeasible shit.

The fact that it even kinda works is amazing to me, honestly. It's the best FF since 9, which is a testament to how fucking awful X and XIII were and how director fuckery screwed XII as well.

>>388446606
I literally have the same setup

>>388450328
>but it's impossible to hold a narrative in these conditions.

This was the main issue I had with FF12 as well. I spent so much time doing hunts and shit, that I kept forgetting what was going on with the story when I got back to it.

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>>388450669
The left doesn't look good either, so since the right is how it was supposed to look I prefer it. Newer doesn't mean better.

nVidia probably threw a lot of money at them. Watch the graphical options simply be turning off the Gameworks shit and not much else.

>>388443315
define older pc

>>388450660
>This is what happens when you have a director switch this late into development,
Tabata scrapped everything but some of the character's looks. Everything, including how they acted, was scrapped too though.

Tabata just can't make a good game and this one was rushed as well.

>>388446658
>It's like they finally realize waifus sell games and should be the protags with one funny guy

Except this game sold well and SE is pretty much taking those fujobux straight to the bank. It's why that shitty Cindy VR thing has been replaced instead with a shitty fishing VR thing where you're basically on a fishing date with the guys.

>>388450830
>Watch the graphical options simply be turning off the Gameworks shit and not much else.
The graphical options are better than most PC games though you retard. Do your research before shitposting.

>>388449985
Jesus, console players got FUCKED with this game.

>>388443315
Gotta start somewhere. I hope everyone piates this shit though.
PC already has enugh early access sht.

>>388450980
>Tabata scrapped everything but some of the character's looks. Everything, including how they acted, was scrapped too though.
Yeah? That's what I said, although I guess I didn't phrase it as well as I could have. Seven years into development they start over from scratch and are expected to live up to Nomura's crazy fucking scope. That's madness.

>Tabata just can't make a good game and this one was rushed as well.
He's definitely not been great in the past, but I think XV is more of a point in his favor than against it. The parts that line up with what he likes to make ended up really strong while the scope and drama promised by Nomura fell flat. Combined with the short dev time for what we got, I think he could finally make a strong game instead of a flawed but interesting one if he was given his own damn project for once. No more ties to other people's shit, just let him go and keep Toriyama the fuck away from it.

Seriously, from his history I was expecting the game to be a lot worse than it was. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt based on what we got.

>>388450980
>Tabata scrapped everything but some of the character's looks.

By "everything" you mean Stella?

>>388450980
>inb4 another argument with people that didn't folllow the development
Why does XV even get threads anymore

>>388451696
The game has many more problems beside stella/luna.

looks like xv-kun is here

The most obvious application would be to replace the guys' models with hotter ones from the character creator.

>>388445303
>make animations more fluid
>disable animations
>make elemental buffs permanent until zone change or change element
>turn off summoning cutscenes
>make other characters playable
>make the car go off-road
>implement fast travel
>make food effects permanent until end of day
>make more suitable bosses or more dangerous hunts
>make more unique weapon effects

There's a ton you could do.

>>388443315
Probably because it's the latest game in the series and they want to make it a good port.

>>388451832
We're talking about what was supposedly scrapped.

>>388451878
I'm so sick of every minor defense of the game being "LOOK IT'S XV-KUN."

Like fuck man, it's flawed as all hell, but I can give it credit without being a sycophant.

>>388449119
>actually trying to say FF12 has bad writing.
your a fucking idiot bud. read a book for once in your life, it teach you something.

>>388451947
You couldn't do most of that even with tools anon.

>>388452247
I do read books that's why I can say FF12 is trash, even compared to far lower budget video games.

>>388452234
was I talking to you?

>>388452247
Just report him.

>>388452247
Sequel baits are shit.
Ivalice was should have never been used for multiple games.

>>388452506
Probably, since I wrote a big ol' post and I don't see XV-kun style posts anywhere.

>>388445834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCLJWyyj2M4

>>388452902
I wasn't.

>>388452857
Vagrant Story is rad though.

The real answer here is that Ogre Battle never should have ended.

The only hype i have for the PC release is the datamining, we know Noctis' Versus model is in the game's files, i wonder if there's more of Versus XIII there.

>>388453462
They're remove them.

I'd like to see someone make all three continents playable

>>388443315
XV is the only one that makes sense....

The open world lends itself to more user created shit. I can see XII working too, not so much the others. Maybe XIII, if someone creates a mod to change the battle system, fix the story, and make Lightning more likable.

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Just got talked into buying FF12 remake over FF15 on the PS4.

All this shittalking is making me feel buyer's remorse.
After all I'm kind of a whore for new-gen graphics and modern open world setup, did I make the wrong choice?

>>388453462
Most of Versus was prerecorded tech demo anyway.
All the "gameplay" footage they were using to build hype throughout the years was fake.

>>388453529
pretty much.

also, if there were more versus 13 stuff, they would have showed up already.

>>388453870
XII is one of the best looking PS2 games there is, so you didn't really make a poor choice. Its great for graphics people in the sense that it had so much detail in its textures that not all of it was shown on the 480p screens the PS2 was built for

>>388453870
Not really, considering you're gonna get a definitive release with all the DLC, 4K support and better textures n shit on PS5.

>>388453870
Gameplay improvements should make up for the visual quality PS4 version loses to emulated PS2 version.

>>388453870
FF12 remastered literally looks better than FFXV most of the time and its a better game. Pretty sure you'd feel more remorse getting XV.

>>388453870

It's actually really great, don't let the naysayers dissuade you. It's not cookie-cutter animu kissu kissu big titties love interest Final Fantasy though so all the traditionalists hated it.

>>388443315
So they can taste the precious slightly salty tears of console players.

Thanks for beta testing! Day one pirate for me!

>>388446730

If Tabatha is able to deliver on the ability to add in custom quests and map editing, modders will be able to essentially go in and redo the game so that the story is better in a variety of ways--and FFXV will end up being a hybrid of cutscenes and text based quest designations/story/plot progression.

Would be interesting to see it happen, if it did.

>>388454139
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting

>>388453980
>XII is one of the best looking PS2 games there is
I always get triggered when I read thing. You're not wrong but FF12 is pretty damn boring looking.

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>tfw he's lying and it will be Windows 10 exclusive

>>388452369
Just wait until some madman rips the game files and then you can replace them

>>388443315
Because it's new? Also open world so the mod options are a lot more better, hopefully mods can remake the game to be much better.

>>388454442
It's already confirmed for Windows 10, Origin and Steam. You can already mod origin games, you just have to do it the old fashioned way. Not sure how the Windows Store version will work though.

>Mods made me enjoy MGSV a lot more than I did when I played it on console
>tfw hoping they do the same here

So long as there's nexus support, I'm happy.

>>388454117

This. 12 is unironically one of my favorite FF's.

The only real shitty parts about the same are the Zodiac Spear, mat farming, and 99-hour secret boss battles.

>>388454760
what mods did MGSV have?

>>388454879
Did you enjoy the thousands of MMO fetch quests?

Will it be released physically with the entire game on the discs and will it require some shitty "service" like Steam or GOG or the Windows store?

>>388445834
Keep in mind Xbone and PS4 could barely run it at first, it took months of delays to get it playable. Console to PC ports are rarely more optimized than the original version as well, so it's likely going to be very demanding. Maybe 750Ti minimum at 900p/low.

>>388454956
Considering the high profile of the game I think Square would be a fool to not at least give THIS one a physical release

>>388454956
>Will it be released physically with the entire game on the discs
This is PC, anon, this never happens since around 2007 or so

>>388454892
Most important were ones that removed all the bullshit grind and timers, those improve the game tenfold. There's a bunch of decent ones on the nexus for it.

>>388454892
good question, what have fans done with MGSV after release?

>>388454892
Look up Infinite Heaven

>>388455126
No buy then, I'll pirate it when it gets cracked if it has DRM on top of the inherent DRM that is Steam.

>>388454892
Infinite Heaven/TUPPM

>>388454942

I honestly don't remember there being that many. I did remember some other things I didn't like, including Vaan and summons being worthless, but in general I'm not a huge FF guy. I think my overall favorite FF was probably tactics. Didn't like most of the main series.

As long as I can turn this into my new sex sim, I'm buying it.

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>>388443315
Nice. I'll pirate it in 5 years when all the DLCs are out and when modders bothered to fix the balance and combat system and sidequests

>>388455428
Do you like fuccbois?

>>388455589
Who doesn't?

>>388454956
Who the fuck buys disc anymore?

>>388454956
Why the fuck would you even bother with PC gaming if you like physical media? How fucking masochistic are you? That's like buying a console for 60fps. Actually a phyical, complete game on PC is far, far rarer than a 60fps game on console.

>>388455713
>Actually a phyical, complete game on PC is far, far rarer than a 60fps game on console.
that's not true

>>388455674
I do and I refuse to pay for a digital "copy"
I play solely on PC and have never had Steam or GOG or any other shit "service" malware on my computer.

>>388455713
I like the quality and longevity that PC gaming gives but like owning physical copies of games

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WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE GOLDFACE FAGGOTS NOW WHO SAID WE PC PLAYERS WOULD NEVER PLAY THIS GAME?

>>388450803
>because left doesn't look literally perfect for my tastes means I prefer right even though the left objectively looks better
fucking /v/

>>388456007
Left is PS2, right is PC.

>>388455878
Were there that many people who thought that? FF on PC isn't exactly a new thing

>>388456007
It doesn't objectively look better though, they increased some polygons but they both still look horrid by modern standards. And so it comes down to taste. In the case of that face, I prefer the original look to the smushed remake of it. I meant to reply to >>388450437 also, woops.

>>388455847
Physical copies are DRM as well. At least floppies and CD's with DRM weren't egregious, DVD's and Blurays are extremely anti-freedom, especially Bluray.

>>388456324
Yeah but at least companies can't pry your phyiscal copies away from your hands.
They CAN stop allowing you to download a particular game though

>>388456224
Now watch /v/ SUDDENLY love FFXV now

>>388456379
And that's when you go to Piratebay or any of the thousand other sites were you can just download the game, apply crack, and play. What are you going to do when your disk gets a scratch or breaks?

>>388456704
>And that's when you go to Piratebay or any of the thousand other sites were you can just download the game, apply crack, and play.
Exactly, instead of paying for digital you should just pirate
>>388456704
>What are you going to do when your disk gets a scratch or breaks?
Non issue, I use my discs once when i initially install the game on my computer and I create several back ups.
Just stop being a self hating piece of garbage and stop paying for digital.

>>388450941
2014 old, at least i5 cpu and 7870 gpu, 8gb ram and you'll need 200gb of HDD space. if you can run witcher 3 you'll pretty much set.

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>>388455878
It was not only confirmed from day one that PC port will come eventually, consolebros actually warned you the game is shit since last November.
Too bad people don't listen.

>>388456951
>Exactly, instead of paying for digital you should just pirate
Why? If a company removes it from the store, just crack it. If a disc breaks, crack it. They're exactly the same thing. You can even crack digital copies and make backups if you want. Hell, GOG games let you download the installlers so you can make backups of those very easily. You're advocating piracy for one from of DRM, while promoting another form of DRM, you're a scumbag.

>>388455445
>I'll pirate it in 5 years

it will have denuvo so add 5 more years to that fampai.

>>388457272
I advocate for DRM free physical releases so how am I promoting any type of DRM?
You and every other faggot that defends paying digital "copies" are just trying to justify all the money you gave to Valve and have nothing to show for it

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>>388455445
>battle system replaced with custom made ATB system
>progression system with plenty of choices for great replayability
>dub removed in favor of heavily rewritten plot featuring glorious textboxes
Can you imagine?
I certainly can't.

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>>388457369
Denvuo games get cracked in like a weak now.

>>388457659
>Buy game on GOG
>burn it to disc
There, that's your physical copy. ironically this is more free than any storebought (((physical media))) due to lack of copy protection.
>I advocate for DRM free physical releases
These don't even exist outside of a few games like The Witcher 3. You're essentially advocating free for all piracy while pretending to care about muh freedoms.

>>388458065
implying square don't have munny for v5 or v6 that will be uncrackable

>>388450032

It's actually a huge change, it's extremely noticaeble in motion. The original models would distort and flicker incessantly as you played and it made emulating the game super fucking ugly. New models are really nice.

>>388458517
That wobble is fixed for PS1 emulation now. The actual models are just kinda smoothed, it's not a big change. I was kinda expecting more but it's cool they did that much.

>>388458037
>ATB system
worst system ever.

>>388443315
God, that fight was such a fucking joke. Jesus christ.

How can we go form fucking KH bossfights to this?

>>388449382
FF7 had a PC port

with MIDI music

>>388443315
Okay hold on does that mean paid mods ?

>>388445354
The latest consoles are basically PCs now. The gap between PC and console architecture is as narrow as it's ever been

>>388458214
>These don't even exist outside of a few games like The Witcher 3. You're essentially advocating free for all piracy while pretending to care about muh freedoms.
They should be released like that and your argument doesn't work considering The Witcher 3 sold well on PC even with its DRM physical release.
GOG is just as bad as Steam.

>>388458906
No, you idiot.

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>>388458804
Literally the best compromise between strict turn based system and real time.
FF was fine until they started experimenting too much and derailed mechanics into oblivion. Both XII's and XIII's iterations can indeed go fuck themselves.

>>388459070
>"GOG is just as bad as Steam."

>no online activation
>no DRM
>let you download installers
>let you make backups (Steam backup feature is trash and doesn't even work half the time)
>no forced updates
>patch rollback

>"just as bad"

>>388443315

They poured a lot of money into it, so they are gonna market the fuck out of it in any way they can, and make whatever improvements they need to make in order to make more money.

They did the same with XIII and the spinoffs of that, just not to this degree. The reception for XV is, overall, way more positive than with anything XIII related. Money, basically. That's the real reason.

>>388459509
>it makes you pay for the games
>it's automatically shit
Buying licenses to digital content rubs me the wrong way but I agree GOG screws you significantly less than Steam in that regard.

>>388459509
gog gives me free games too

>>388459764
Its the fact that since it isn't as bad as Steam and tries to make itself look fine and people defend it is what makes it as bad as Steam. By itself it isn't as bad.

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This game coming to PC basically guarantee FFVII will get a PC reléase.

What a time to be a PC Gamer.

>>388459267
The insult wasn't necessary fuckface

>>388460045
What's actually wrong with it? If you download a game off of GOG and burn it to disc it's exactly the same as a store bought physical copy. In fact GOG is better than physical copies since you don't have to worry about copy protection. Backing up store bought physical media requires either cracking the copy protection or installing a no CD crack on the game.

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>>388460347
>another SE vaporware delayed for years
>already changed director
>episodic
Why do folks like you love hurting themselves so much?

>>388443315
it was built from the groundup on PC hardware and when they realize how much they'd have to cut back to run on consoles they made a decision for the first time to convert that time and effort to letting consumers utlizie the benefits of high end PCs for the first time, you have to realize the huge number of western devlopment that had it's hand on this game, like no other in the series history, Square in it's fear that they were going to be left out of the AAA ball game and just be another humble Japanese developer made sure to get forigners from all across the industry in their office to help with the game, and the influence is having a big effect on how the game is being released, the including a PC port with a heavy emphasis on specs and tech, which the Japanese don't ussually prioritize.

>>388460694
Can you speak in any language that isn't memes?

>>388460680
That probably depends on your priorities.
Some people want physical copies out of convenience, other for the sake of collecting them.
Burning a GOG installer is hardly better than a pirated copy from that perspective.
Then again, physical distribution on PC is dead anyway so there's little point in discussing 'what-ifs'.

>>388461045
>and when they realize how much they'd have to cut back to run on consoles they made a decision for the first time to convert that time and effort to letting consumers utlizie the benefits of high end PCs for the first time
I like that you're thinking but this didn't happen. The game on PC is still downgraded, it really is just FFXV 1.0 with Nvidia fluff, rather than the unfinished game the consoles got.

The siggraph stuff from last year and the lead graphics engineer talked about how they butchered the game, and that stuff isn't coming back even in the PC version.

But yeah the rest seems about right, putting in modding tools to get their teams used to supporting PC the same way Bethesda for instance does. It's not a bad idea.

A bad idea was releasing FFXV because that game fucking sucks.

>>388445303
haven't played the game but don't you have to play a lot of bullshit missions to get to fun ones? What about a mod that makes it so you don't have to bother and trims the dumb missions and only leaves good ones to beat to get to end game weapons and bosses?

>>388443315
They strongly believe in the product.

>>388460680
>Backing up store bought physical media requires either cracking the copy protection or installing a no CD crack on the game.
No it doesn't, I was able to copy and paste all of my games on to back up blu rays and USBs and the games work when I put them on a different computer via my back ups.
Games being sold digitally is also is the exact reason games are sold unfinished, the reason DLC/microtransactions are a thing, and the reason early access (aka paying to test someone's game when devs used to have to pay to test their game) is a thing.
If you buy pay for digital you are part of the problem for supporting it.
On top of that, I am just not willing to pay for something and get nothing in return, which is exactly what happens when you buy digital. It isn't my job to pay for a "product" being sold in a format I am not willing to pay for. The companies love digital because digital gets them higher profit margins for a lot less work and it allows them to sell a worse product.

>>388461395
How long were you in that coma?

>>388461713
haha nice one

>>388461581
Why, did they lose the data from back then or something? Why would you not be able to use and access the resources that were availble a year ago and just comprosmise on the inferior version that came after that for console when you don't need to worry about that anymore?

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>>388461873
I don't know why they do it but they do. Even the 'bro tier' CDPR fucked up TW3 on PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Gfb0Uw9PB8
The Nvidia AO they're using isn't even fucking tweaked properly, this looks horrible.

Overall it's going to look way better on PC especially with mods but it on't even get back to E3, pre-E3, or even Duscae levels unless they release their shader tools.

>>388449838
FFXV PC utilizes a lot of Nvidia GameWorks

>>388461703
>Games being sold digitally is also is the exact reason games are sold unfinished
That straight up isn't true, patch culture is as old as PC gaming itself. If you read CGW and PCGamer mags from the 90's they had whole sections devoted to downloading patches for popular games. Sure, there were no computer patches before the internet but no one really wants to go back to before the internet. You sound like you want console games, so again, why the fuck aren't you playing on console?
>On top of that, I am just not willing to pay for something and get nothing in return, which is exactly what happens when you buy digital.
So you're willing to pay upwards of $60 for a disc that costs 5 cents to produce? How is that reasonable? Physical media is dead dude, not even Sony cares even more and they're the king of shitty proprietary media formats. They couldn't even bother to offer UHD bluray support on the Pro. I guarantee the PS5 is going all digital.

>>388443315
sounds good, Tabata said ages ago he wanted mod support and custom quest stuff if a pc ver was on the table so I'm glad it's being put in. Any mods, nude/degenerate or otherwise, will be a plus for me.

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>>388462412
>That straight up isn't true, patch culture is as old as PC gaming itself.
PC games getting patches back then was extremely different than day 1 15gb patches of today. Games in general are far more buggy nowadays.

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>>388462172
how odd, it's a mystery then

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>>388462631
Yeah it's weird.

>>388455794
GOG isn't that bad. They give you the exe with no drm. You just store the exe on a hdd and youll have it forever as long as you keep backing it up

>>388443315
>What makes XV so special?
It has Tonberry Jedi.

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>>388463049
but no Tonberry Chefs, two steps forward one step back

>>388462824
>>388462618
>>388462172
Different time of town

>>388463305
a classic

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>>388461560
Gog specifically states that when you buy a gog version of a game its yours you may burn it on to discs make several backup copies.
Hell you can technically even physically give it to your friends.

Only thing you are not allowed to do legally is share it online.
Gog functions more on the good will system.
They assume if a game is good enough people will buy it to support the developer.
Which is true in case of witcher 3 seeing as its a successful game.

>>388443315
I get the feeling that FFXV is a massive joke to people at this point. Am I far off the mark /v/?

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>>388463305
2 of those plus this one are 1:1 :^)

>>388463552
Nah.

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>>388463203
But isn't the implication that all Tonberry were chefs before becoming daemons? So technically they're all Tonberry Chefs. Or at least Tonberry Kitchen Staff I guess. The fact that they don't have the hats is disappointing though.

>goes on about how they're allowing mod support to look like good guys
>you bought it so you can do whatever you want with it
>except you can't buy and play the game without being forced to use a DRM client

Bullshit PR is what it is.

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>>388463552
People tent do over react.
Few people genuinely hate the game and its not realy all that bad.
People just tend to associate the final fantasy name whit the best games ever so anything short of perfection is considered shit by some.
Also a lot of Sony fanboys are now calling the game shit because its no longer a console exclusive.
It happens to all games that eventually come to PC.

>>388462631
I want to fuck spooky ougi, if you know what i mean

>>388463883
Just give up dude, if you hate digital downloads just buy a console. PC gamers have overwhelmingly chosen to support digital distribution over physical media, I don't see new physical PC games anywhere in the US that aren't just Steam or Battle.net keys.

>>388463883
How is physical DRM different from Digital DRM.
You cant buy and play a Sony exclusive game or any Version of a game for a Sony console unless you buy a Sony console.
If anything digital has way more advantages to physical.
Only advantage physical has is you saving time on downloading the game if you live in a 3rd world country and you still dont save time because you had to physically go outside and buy the game or wait several days for a physical copy to arrive.
Only real advantage to Physical is that you can re sell the game or lend it to friends.

I still think XV is a nice game. I liked it, then hated it, then disliked it, then liked it more, and now I like it. It's a nice game. The off road car makes the game feel better, but still the on-rails car shit is just whatever now. Auto somewhere put on your music and do something else in the same room. I've gotten more used to combat and I feel like the game drastically changes when you get that Noctis ability "press square to recover after getting hit and negate damage". Makes battles flow a lot better because usually when you get fucking hit all the time you wait like 10 seconds for him to get back up. I fought that death fucking thing with lasers and shit and you can dodge all its attacks pretty easily if you're good but it's still hard. There is some bullshit in the game like the camera is still fucked but it's a nice game.

>>388464039
>Also a lot of Sony fanboys are now calling the game shit because its no longer a console exclusive.

Except it was never a PS4 exclusive you dolt. It's always been on PS4 and XB1.

>>388444983
Because most of their games are also insanely expensive to make, SE have a bad habit of wasting a ton of money on making new engines when they don't need to and way over spending on marketing campaigns.

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>>388450803
One on the left has the face of a woman, very appealing.

One on the right everything is more pronounced and deliberate, as if to distract you from the fact that she has a gender neutral face. The Jews are trying to turn you gay anon

>>388462618
So they downgraded it to hell and back and then slowly tried to improve the visual fidelity after doing a significant downgrade?

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>>388466257
Or its trying to make you autistic seeing as she doesn't emote properly.

>>388466257

Is that a jockstrap?

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>>388466743
One on the left looks human, the right looks like a fucking alien

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>>388443315
https://my.mixtape.moe/kahecw.webm

Modding can't fix shit like this. XV is unfixable

>>388467565
ff10 has bigger problems than grafix
it's the fucking fanfic tier writing shit that became canon that's a way bigger problem

>>388467565
Why does your webm have blur effects?

>>388468106
They forgot to turn them off.

>>388443315
Who the hell is going to buy this on Origin or windows store?