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You're gonna buy her game, right /v/?

Lacrimosa of Dana > Oath in Felghana > Origin > Seven > Memories of Celceta > Ark of Napishtim > II > I > Nobody played V
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I imported it for Vita already so gonna pirate the PC version
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>>388428684
What kind of girl is she? I hope she's not some tsundere cunt.
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>>388428684
Since I already played it on the Vita like a year ago I'm gonna pirate the PC version to play the PS4 content.
Actually I don't know if the PC version has the PS4 content that released later. Does it?
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>>388428875
No that's Laxia
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>>388429040
PC version is just a port of the PS4 version so yes
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>>388429058
That is the face of a man that just wants to go adventuring alone again.
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https://youtu.be/ulEX4bojdEs

Someone decided to break their NDA and stream the review copy it looks like
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Yeah
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>>388428684
Oath in Felghana > II & I > Origin > Ark of Napishtim >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rest of crappy AI-party + crappy camera Ys
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>>388429623
Take it back. Seven Engine is pure>>388429623
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>>388431583
Seven still has good camera, and less of the pointless dialogue / quests nonsense, but the addition of party members started the downfall.
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>>388428684
Yeah. Classic Adol looks cool and Dana seems neat as well but I don't really care for the other party members.
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>Oath in Felghana > Origin

I disagree. They're close, though, so I can see why someone might have an opinion different from my own.

>>388429623
>II & I > Origin

Now you're just being silly.
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>>388428684
>playing Celceta instead of Dawn of Ys
you've made a mistake
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>>388429623
This but add Mask of the sun right before Napishtim
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>>388428684
>You're gonna buy her game, right /v/?

The only games I'm (probably) getting in September are
>knack 2
>ys 8
>dishonored
>divinity 2
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>>388432280
Origin can fuck off with the grind.

>hurrr you do 1dmg because you're slightly underleveled EVEN THOUGH YOU SPENT TIME IN EVERY SINGLE AREA GETTING EXTRA XP
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>>388432263
I could probably forgive the party system some if Dogi was playable in more then just 7, but he isn't.
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>>388429623
This.

Ys is all about Adol wrecking everybody's shit alone,. Fuck those literal whos
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>>388432564
Are you talking about killing monsters to power up the dark ring or whatever it was?
Because that was a bug
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>>388432584
Isn't the party optional this time?
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>>388428684
Yes, I'm going to buy Ricotta's game.
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>>388432831
If it is then I'm going solo.
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>>388432564
That doesn't make Bumper Cars acceptable.
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>>388432852
Is she the only one that has porn so far? It pretty nice though.
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>>388433035
http://gematsu.com/2017/02/ys-viii-ps4-details-hidden-elements-benefits-japanese-ps-vita-version-buyers
Eh, looks like you need to clear the game at least once to unlock it.
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>>388432831
Yes and no. First you need to find the accessory which lets you play as solo anyone. Forgot when you get it but it wasn't that early. Second If you want optimal damage for one person you need to get 2 accessories which change your attack type. So you can have Slash + Pierce + Heavy. But you don't get those acc till end game.
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>>388433328
Fuck. I suppose its nice to have the option though.
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>>388428684
Ys is a shit JRPG series with a bad plot and Mary Sue MC. When is Falcom dropping it and focusing on exclusively making Trails games?
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>>388434439
Play Post-Seven Ys if you want kiseki clone. Ys was great ARPG with focuse only on gameplay and pushing pointless dialogue and fetch quests out of the way.
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>>388434439
You are a faggot and I hate all of you, and I want more Zweii!! and a Gurumin sequel.
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>>388428684
I just picked up Origin, so no. I don't like Ys games with the party system, anyway.
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Of course, i'm ready to play the true experience. Vita version was already the best Ys game unless you are a dumb neofag who plays on normal.
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>>388435075
>using double exclamation marks in your posts
don't do that reddit
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>>388436365
Please kill yourself.
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>>388436463
i'm just fucking with you calm down
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Of course. Both this and 7, seeing as I never beat it on the PSP.
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I didn't mind party members because I'm not a fan of playing as one thing for 30 hours (especially when the dodging is always more fun than the attacking), but the fact that you couldn't solo in the last 2 games pissed me off and I'm glad they let you do so in this game.

I didn't like how the entirety of Celceta is "flash guard/dodge to win". Every boss plays out the same way instead of having unique patterns with unique solutions like the older games. Did 8 at least do something different? More bullet hell style dodging instead of invulnerability windows?

Also are the new content going to be available for all platforms? I'd love to play the COMPLETE game on a handheld, or at least PC if the Vita's getting cucked. But so far I heard it's all perks for PS4.
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>>388428684
Yes. Playing II and then Dawn while I wait.
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>>388432852
Built for sex.
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>>388437450
Vita isn't getting the complete content. PC or PS4 if you want all the goods.
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I've only played Oath in Felghana. Should I play any other games before this one?
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>>388437802

Origin and Ark of Naphistim if you want something like Oath.

Seven and Celceta if you want to get familiar with VIII's gameplay.

Bumper Cars are fine too.
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>>388438040
Thanks, anon. I'll check them out.
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So do you think we'll get more games with the Seven engine? The next game will probably be a remake of V considering how much they mention Xandria and that they bothered to give the Isis Blade an elaborate design, but in town on whether or not they should switch things up.

I actually really like the party system, but being solo again would be fun. Dana's half of the game definitely showed that a solo Seven Engine Ys could work.
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>>388437686
Is the extra content actually worth the purchase? Tokyo Xanadu got extra content on PS4, and I've heard many claims that it's not that big a deal and still plays better on the Vita.
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>>388437450
Srconding this question.. Moving the focus from pattern dodging was a great shame
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I'll be getting it. I really wish the Vita version had the extra content though, it's not even like Tokyo Xanadu which I ended up picking up on Vita because I had nothing to play last month.
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>>388439739
Yes, it's pretty substantial. Dana has an entirely new solo dungeon and Adol has some post-game dungeons.

Solo play for new game plus alone makes it worth it.
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>>388439851
I see. I'll consider putting it on the wishlist, then.
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>>388428684

Probably eventually. Finally played my first Ys game last night, that being the the Chronicles edition of the first one. It was fun. Think this play order's alright?

I & II > Origins > Oath in Felghana > Memories of Celceta > V > VI > VII > VIII? It'll probably be all over the place mechanics wise, that's what happens when you play remakes instead of the originals.
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>>388440092
Don't play Celceta, play Dawn of Ys instead unless you've played Seven or VIII before it and decide you just REALLY like the party system

V isn't as exciting as the rest of the series so you'll probably regret playing in between the rest instead of saving it for when you're done with the good ones but hungry for more Ys

Origin and Oath you can do in either order, though most play Napishtim first because those two are the same system as and play much better than it so it wouldn't feel like you're going backwards

That said, you sound like a rare case who might actually enjoy all the styles of the games instead of complaining about them, so you should really just play whichever one you feel like without worrying about order and you'll probably get through them all eventually
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>>388440092
I recommend going: I&II > Oath > Origin > Ark > Seven > Memories > Lacrimosa

Definitely save Ark until you've played Oath at least. It came out before it, but it's the culmination of a bunch of series lore so you need the Felghana background to some extent.
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>>388440092
Yeah, especially since you seem content with mechanic jumping. Origins after Chronicles is good since you'll still have the continuity fresh in your mind.
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>>388440887
>play Dawn of Ys
I'm still holding out for someone to upload a patched Dawn of Ys .bin.
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>>388441510
http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/retro/tg-16/ys-iv--the-dawn-of-ys-turbo-cd-english-translated/
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LOVE FALCOM
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>>388441510
I made a torrent of it once upon a time
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>>388428684
>Memories of Celceta > Ark of Napishtim
>party system above anything

lmao kys.
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>>388440887
Celceta's not that bad. It's easily the worst of the Seven engine games, but it does a lot for Adol's character and has some great music.
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>>388441790
I'll never understand /v/'s disdain for the party system.
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>>388441604
Is that the fan dub or just the text translation? I have the latter.
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>>388441964
You can already neuter the party members in Celceta and have them not attack anything. It's just a bit annoying to see them running around like chickens. I like the party system simply for the fact that they allow for different movesets
Flash mechanics and Items are the real shit killing Ys.
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>>388441790
Ark is an experimental mess, however it's thanks to it that the GOAT that is Felghana was perfeced.
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>>388441809
Oh it's not, it's fine and I actually enjoyed it a lot
But when someone's first getting into the series, Dawn would give the best impression among all versions of IV because it has fantastic bosses, good pacing, and somehow still the best music

Ideally any Ys fan should play Dawn, Mask, and Celceta and decide for themselves which they enjoy most
But in a hypothetical situation where you'd only get to play one of them, Dawn every time

>>388442113
I didn't check yet myself, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't the dub
If it isn't you can find it with a quick google anyway
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>>388442202
>Flash mechanics and Items are the real shit killing Ys

This tbqh. Flash Guard is a cool mechanic but the timing is too lenient. They should tighten it, or make it like Alternative Saga so you can't just spam it. Items should just go and stay go.
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>>388442261
I would not call Ark a mess, it's just bit more clunky and slow. It gets better the further you get in the game though.
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Friendly reminder

>PC version it too buggy
>Vita version is too ugly
>PS4 version is just right
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>>388443915
>Goldilocks and the Three Systems
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>>388428684
Oath in Felghana > Memories of Celceta > II > Origin > Dawn of Ys > Seven > Mask of the Sun > 1 > Mask of the Sun > 5 > Wanderers from Ys
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>>388432432
>knack 2
GAME OF DA YEAR BAYBEEEEEE!!!
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>>388442273
I managed to find this: http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/retro/tg-16/ys-iv-the-dawn-of-ys-english-dubtext/

I'm going to test it out.
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>>388444335
Why so high for Celceta?
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>>388442273
Why Mask? It's objectively the worst of the three.
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>>388444634
Absolute best setting, a rocky start gives way to phenomenal pacing and dungeon variety, party characters are all fun to play as (besides Duren), most of the Dawn music is disappointing but the new tracks are all among the series' best

Felghana is mechanically perfect but Celceta feels the most like what I think Ys should be, a tightly composed action RPG and a real sense of exploring a new land that feels believable and interesting
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>>388444459
Yeah, that looks like it should work
If somehow it doesn't and all you need is the dub try this one next:
http://www.ysutopia.net/projects/ys4/
the download links there seem to be intact

>>388444638
It's not great by modern standards, but it had interesting ideas
The background in Iris Tower was hot shit in 1993, and I still think it's neat- there's also a part where Lilia dies and Adol carries her corpse while bumping monsters and a segment where Adol can turn into a Roo and talk to every monster in the game, whereas I'm pretty sure Celceta's Roo-mode only let you talk to other Roos (correct me if I'm wrong there)
It also follows Falcom's script most closely when they outsourced to multiple devs, hence why it was canon until Celceta came around, but for the most part it suffers from the same problem as V: It's not great, not awful, just "okay"

>>388444843
>most of the Dawn music is disappointing but the new tracks are all among the series' best
I'm sorry, anon
I can't fathom what kind of upbringing you would have to have had to have developed an opinion like that
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>>388444843
That's interesting. The setting is really nice. I think it's the pacing that ultimately hurts it for me, but I do enjoy the game for what it is. Especially Adol's memories. That was a great way at giving us some deeper insight into his character.
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>>388445107
Nigga learn some reading comprehension I meant most of the Celceta versions of Dawn music are disappointing. Ancient Legend and Iris are phenomenal but hte rest are booty
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>>388445232
Oh you're right, guess I'm retarded
What they did to General Leo's theme is unforgivable, but the Morning After the Storm and Gust of Wind are excellent, plus it was a nice surprise to have Iris back
I don't think that's quite enough to make up for removing A Great Ordeal and Bronze District though
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>tfw Amazon screwed up the pricing and you got it for cheap
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>>388445582
Those were a big loss, and Field was my favorite map theme in the series until Sunshine Coastline so I was really sad to see it go.

Seeking the Vanished Mask is probably my favorite though, it sounds the most like a brand new Dawn track which was amazing
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>>388429058
I thought Ys was a RPG/shmup combo in 2D? What the fuck is this?
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VIII is an amazing game. It really gives a good sense of adventure. Some things I wanted were more human bosses (There's only one) and letting you choose your weapons (Once you upgrade you can never go back). Flash Move needs fixing badly also. Heavily abusable.

>>388445954
VIII is Ys' first 3D title
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>>388445954

welcome to 8 years ago
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>>388446098
how does that even work?
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>>388446098
Scratch that there's 2 human bosses. Forgot one is in a side quest

>>388446195
How does what work? Ys in 3D? Works pretty well
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>>388446098
There are two actually. You fight one of the castaways for their final event.
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>>388446315
how do you do a shmup in 3D, is it a trails clone now?
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>>388446098
>more human bosses (There's only one)

I know exactly what you were thinking of when writing this
I, too, am excited to no end to see EOPs' reactions to this part
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>>388429357
Everyone wants to hog on Adol's glory but he's too polite to tell them to fuck off.
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>>388429569
I want to lick that tummy all over
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>>388435075

>Gurumin sequel

Never.
Fucking.
Ever.
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What is this I hear about the Vita version being incomplete?
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>>388446625
I'm torn on this part.

On one hand, I would have loved if they kept the tension building and held off the reveal so you kept questioning who Nemo was.

On the other hand, that totally would have ruined Castaway Village's coziness for a while.
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>>388446524
Kind of. Basically each player has a standard attack combo and skills. You can equip 4 skills at a time unlile Tales artes where you can usually have 8 or 16.
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>>388446859
It's not incomplete, the PS4 version just has more content.

To be fair, though, it's A LOT more content. The vita version is 100% inferior.
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>>388446098
Does the full game ease you into the combat better than the demo does? I recognized flashes of brilliance by the time I reached the boss and had a decent grasp on the game, but the controls are so complicated for an Ys game and I don't feel like having to manually rotate the camera meshed very well with the speed of the combat. I know that area is a little further into the game though, so I wonder if it might just be a bad choice for a demo dungeon
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>>388428684
I-I played V
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Is my boy Geis in this game?
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>>388447147
5 is too inoffensive to be 'bad' I think that's just a lot of bandwagon memeing. It's just kind of a nothing game
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>>388446969
Glad I pre ordered the PS4 version then. I pondered getting the Vita version since I don't own a lot of physical Vita stuff, mostly digital.
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>>388447028
There is a demo out for it?
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>>388447523
On Japanese PSN there is
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>>388446430
Yeah I realized after. Forgot about the granny

>>388447028
Personally I found the default controls to be shit so I remapped everything. Triangle to guard, changed the lock on etc. Once you get the hang of flash guard and flash move you'll end up abusing it a lot like I did. Usually you don't have the rotate the camera if you have lock on set.

>>388447308
Nah but someone from Celceta is.
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>>388447345
yeah, it's like that odd, obscure SNES game you rented for the weekend, it was 'k and nothing else. I am amazed at how even the OST ended up sounding tasteless. I've never seen a more useless magic system in my life, though.
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>>388447549
>someone from Celceta is

boi WHAT, you don't just mean Adol, right?
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Remember to pick up the Silver armor DLC for Adol first week. It's free then.
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>>388447570
It wouldn't upset me even a little if they just scrapped the entire soundtrack for the eventual remake like they did for a lot of Celceta. There's almost nothing worth saving

>>388447549
That's good to know. It was just hard to get the hang of keeping the same momentum as in the other games at first, but I'll play around with the controls in the full game until I find something that works
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>>388447749
No there's someone else from Celceta in VIII besides Adol and Dogi, who was kinda in Celceta in a flashbacm.
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>>388447814
It makes e so happy that his old armor is available.
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>>388447989
As a _DLC_, fuck this game really.
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>>388448243
At least it's free
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Reminder these are the main girls
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>>388448639

adol isn't a girl, anon
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>>388448639
Dana makes my dick happy.
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Reminder the Adol dies miserable and alone and never reunites with Feena or any other girl.
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>>388449004
[citation needed]
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>>388449004
That ain't true though.
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>>388449004
Did Reah ever get with any dude or is she still carrying a torch for Toal?
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>>388449004
It's pretty obvious that he reaches the north pole, finds an ancient civilization or something and lives there until his death
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>>388429623
I'm playing Naptishim right now and it's really rough around the edges. It's still carried by the feeling of adventure inherent to the whole Ys series but it has lots of issues. I'd rate it lower than Celceta and Seven.
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>>388428684
I only played Memories of Celceta and loved it
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>>388448639
Dana seems alright but Feena will always stay best girl.
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>>388447883
>There's almost nothing worth saving
there were a few endearing ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AASleixtEIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEWnHX4j2i0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysW8d4AeBVE

At least the V remake won't be fighting an uphill battle against a god-tier game unlike Celceta.
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>>388449525
Well it was their first title in that engine. I didn't like how they got rid of the cool jump attack in Oath from Ark tho. Also fuck that long jump attack in Ark. Had to do some keybinding to get it working.
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>NISA
I'd love to support Falcom but my hatred of NISA outweighs my love of Falcom. I'll just buy Tokyo Xanadu and Zwei 2 instead. Maybe I'll buy Ys 8 on sale in a year or so.
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>>388449004
>Implying he didn't live everyone pregnant
>Dogi included
>He then fled to the North Pole to dodge 100+ child supports.
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>>388429569
VIII girls do things to me
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>>388450010
Adol cucked Dogi and marryied Elena
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>>388449525
>really rough around the edges
no shit. First game in the 3D engine, and it's built with V in mind.

I'd say finish it before judging it, but yeah, objectively it's worse than Celceta, but I felt I enjoyed it a bit more than Celceta.
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>>388428684
I'll pick up Lacrimosa of Dana as soon as the PC version comes out. Not buying Seven again with it still being dub-only though. Also,
Seven > Origin > Oath > Celceta > II > I > Ark > V
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>>388450076
As they should
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>>388450190
>I'd say finish it before judging it
Sure, I'm going to finish it even if the cave full of status effect dropping slimes made it very tempting.
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>>388428684
never got what anyone sees in felghana. felt like a shitty rpg maker indie game. the platforming and combat are mediocre.
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>>388450501
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>>388450153
Dogi cucking himself preemptively was the best way to start Oath.

>>388450681
Take it like a man.
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>>388447989
old armor looks terrible.
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>>388450760
Oh shit thanks, you did a much better job of that than I did
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>>388428684
>NISA
They're gonna fuck this up in some way, guaranteed.
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>>388440887
old ys combat was abysmal. bumping into enemies? are you fucking kidding me?
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Nice translation NISA
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>>388451510
And they did. The translation is clearly a rush job. It's fine and they get the point across, but it's super sloppy.
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>>388451510
They're really not any worse than XSEED.
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>>388450925
never realized what pretty skyboxes this had.
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>modern Falcom
I really hope they stay true to the look and feel of the other Ys games. Hell if I want to play two hours of trope laden anime high school simulator before I get to that tasty dungeon action.
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>>388452215

>Shivering Demonic Vase
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>>388451895
?
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>>388452261
VIII is wordy, but it resembles the original series most out of the modern games
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I know, I know. >Reddit

but you guys should see this
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>>388452476
>Archeozoic Big Hole

pics of the hole?
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>>388452476
I'm okay with Eternia and Kiergaard. Killgore was a bit too on the nose.
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>>388452476
is NISA known for memes or something?
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>>388452173
>>388452215
The translation is usually a typical complain.
Something tells me the saves are going to be corrupted despite QA though.
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>>388452773
>despite QA
>implying NISA do QA at all
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>>388452431
I don't mind some reading materials in between dungeons. Tokyo Xanadu just rubbed me the wrong way. Combat in the game is really slick, but you don't really get to indulge in it until you're half way through.
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>>388452918
Tokyo Xanadu was literally press X to win the game, even on hardest difficulty.
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>>388452357
>Rub a dub dub, thanks for the grub
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>>388452359
It's supposed to be Isios blade not Isis bladd
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>>388452918
I think you'll like VIII then. How do you feel about Seven and Celceta?
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>>388452173
They're busy filling Danganronpa V3 with dank memes
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>>388453063
seems intentional. what's the difference?
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>>388429623
what's wrong with napishtim? I liked it better than felghana.
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>>388452636
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>>388453316
>>388443816
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>>388453348
Hole is a dumb word for that, but crevice is completely wrong.
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>>388453212
Who knows. NISA is changing up names for no reason.
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>>388453183
>How do you feel about Seven and Celceta?
Seven was enjoyable outside of that obnoxious final boss. I enjoyed Oath in Felghana more.

Celceta was great, no complaints whatsoever.
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>>388453545
canyon.
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>>388443816
>It gets better the further you get in the game though.

I got bored by half game and just kept playing to say that I've completed it.

Maybe it didn't help to have played Felghana and Origin before.
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>>388453545
If they were gonna change it, "Archeozoic Abyss" sounds a lot better than

>YOU'RE A BIG HOLE
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>>388453618
adol's original name is adolf.
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>>388443816
It completely drops the ball with Limestone cave. Worst Ys dungeon. Gets better after though.
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>>388453934
why is felghana "better"?
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>>388453958
Right. Big hole is just the literal Japanese. I'm only saying Flacom's attempt to provide an English name fails because crevices are supposed to be narrow cracks.
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>>388453934
>Maybe it didn't help to have played Felghana and Origin before
Considering Napishtim was the first to introduce that system, yeah.
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>>388454085

Mechanically tighter
Better platforming/more exploration
More involved boss fights
No dash jump

How isn't it better?
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>>388428765
Where good pirate site
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>>388454327
how is it "mechanically tighter"?
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>>388454592
igg games
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>>388454689

All of Adol's actions are more fluid and responsive, and the levels and bosses are more thoughtfully designed around the 3 bracelets than Ark's were around the swords. The elemental abilities of the swords were largely an afterthought, and except for a few fringe cases I'd rather forget (like the boss in LImewater Cave) I pretty much only used Livart or Erricil when I was forced to
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>>388454970
huh.
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>>388428684
What is the time line of the Ys series? I've wondered ever since ark of napishtim makes mention to previous areas Adol's been.
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>that shitty ending to Celceta

It's been months and I'm still mad
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>>388455065
Origin - 1 - 2 - 4 - 3 - 5 - 8 - 6 - 7
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>>388455065
Origins > 1 > 2 > 4 > 3 > 5 > 8 > 6 > 7
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>>388428684
What a disgustingly dressed bitch.
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>>388455213
Compared to Celceta VIII's ending is so good
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>>388452764
Yes. They're known for memes, censoring, and massive bugs introduced in their localizations.
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>>388455398
>>388455490
Ancient Ys (Origin) takes place 800 years before present day
10 years between the events of I+II and VI
Half a year between VI and Seven
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>>388452476
>kiergaard
Is that even a name? Did they just misspell Kierkegaard?
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>>388453316
Poorly balanced bosses (fuck that bee), lots of backtracking (mostly fixed by addition of warps), and awful platforming. Napishtim has positive qualities but Felghana and Origin were a straight improvement in every way.
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>>388455772
Changing Kilgore to that is so weird. What goes through the NISA translators head
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>>388455974
Nothing at all.
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>>388455398
>>388455490
Haven't played 4 and 5. How are they? what version should I play?
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>>388456175
4 play the PC Engine version if you're a fan of Ys 1 and 2. Play Celceta if you like Ys 7.
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>>388455969
Thought the frog was way worse than the bee to be honest.
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>>388452764
First NISA game, huh?
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>>388454970
psp or pc version? which is better?
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>>388456281

Celceta is canon, but honestly Dawn and Celceta are 2 of the best games in the series and also 2 of the best action RPGs of all time so you should really play both. Each one is ~20 hours

5 isn't essential, but the SNES version is your best bet. It has an english patch
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>>388452764
http://www.at2.metalbat.com/?page_id=2

NISA is all around bad.
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>>388455969
>>388456320
That extra boss Majuunun is even more fucking bullshit on nightmare. You have to grind for hours and spam lightninv charge or else you'll die in one hit or two and he's unpredictable as hell. Doesn't help he's stuck in a small room.
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>>388452764
NISA did a lot of stupid shit in translations back in the day. They became somewhat infamous for butchering the Criminal Girls games in attempt to head off the ESRB and media goonies.

FOTM is all the translators will do things that will be considered disagreeable and /v/ will scream bloody murder over it. Don't like it? Learn nip and import the originals.
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>>388455676
I thought most of their games were more humor based like disgaea though, where memes would fit right in.
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>>388456584
At least he's MEANT to be bullshit as the optional asshole boss. The Bee is a necessary fight and it's fucking bullshit.
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>>388456516
PC, better resolution and framerate. PSP is only worthwhile if you want portability.

Felghana PSP has voice acting the PC version doesn't but I don't really think that adds anything to a game.
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>>388456628
They've been expanding. Very few of their translations are good like Demon Gaze. Most are below average.
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>>388454805
Mad viruses or is it like downloading games for 3ds safety
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>>388456606
>all the translators will do things that will be considered disagreeable and /v/ will scream bloody murder over it
While that is definitely true, most of the complaints about NISA are completely valid. Need I bring up the Witch and the Hundred Knight crashes that were add in the localization and were never patched? Crashes in a fucking console exclusive from a major publisher, what a fucking world we're in these days.
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>>388456886
was that it? thought psp had a few other things.
I don't really care about thee graphics, since these games look awful. a decreased resolution actually does it a favor.
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>>388457073
The share threads on 8 recommend them, and they've been going for a while and are pretty organized.
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>>388428684
>lists Seven over Celceta, Napishtim

your opinion is regarded instantaneously
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>>388457142
>a decreased resolution actually does it a favor
I mean you can play it at lower resolution on PC too if you want but that seems kind of retarded. The games aren't anything special to look at but higher resolution always makes 3D geometry look better unless you really love aliasing. I don't think there are any meaningful differences between the PC and PSP versions of Napishtim in terms of content.
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>>388456750

I don't recall the bee being necessary. If you beat it before a certain point you get an item that makes those faggot bats in the cave killable, but you can just avoid them. Speaking of faggot bats, the only bullshit boss that should not have been mandatory was Vagullion in Ys 1 He was so out of place, an RNG endurance test that was harder than all 7 bosses and he was the third one in the game.
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>>388457139
>Witch and the Hundred Knight crashes that were add in the localization and were never patched?
Yeah, I ran into that myself. I've never seen any truth to the claim that the game was cooking consoles to death however.

The other translators aren't free from crash issues either. Aksys butchered FF: Exist Archive so hard that it crashes after an hour or two of play.
>>
V remake when
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>>388457339
added something called "double boost" and some selectable sound tracks.
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>>388457581
>I've never seen any truth to the claim that the game was cooking consoles to death however
Good thing I didn't bring that up. The crashes alone are unacceptable. If they were literally bricking consoles, it would be grounds for a class action lawsuit.

I don't want to suck Xseed's dick since I'm sure it'll get the JP audio brigade in here whining, but they've generally avoided major technical issues with their localizations and they've demonstrated a willingness to patch problems that do come up. I would be a lot more comfortable buying the game if they were localizing, simply because they've done a good job on the rest of the series. NISA has a bad track record in every way.
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>>388432852
Anime was a mistake
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>>388441809
>but it does a lot for Adol's character
>shows a short scene with his dad
That is the most we'll ever know about Adol
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>>388444382
>memes lmao
Eceleb discussion should be bannable
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>>388440092

This is for you and every other anon thinking about getting into the series. PLAY IN ORDER OF RELEASE. Falcom knows it has a loyal fanbase so they put easter eggs in every new game that can't be fully appreciated if you play in chronological order. Never mind the fact that the games constantly improve upon themselves so you will feel disappointed if you play an older game after a newer one.
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>>388432564

Look, I get /v/ has an extreme boner for Oath; it's a great game, but there's no reason to make up shit that never happened in Origin.
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>>388446098
>Some things I wanted were more human bosses
tfw the duel in VII was the shit
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>>388458171
>If they were literally bricking consoles,
Venetica bricked fucking consoles. I had to unplug my PS3 and restart it just to get it to return to respond. Yes, it would be nice if console mfgs held publishers to high standards, but that isn't happening with AAA publishers shitting in the box, shipping, and twisting the network manager's arms to patch day one.

>XSeed
They are probably the least offensive of all the translators. They have to be since they have a bad habit of bringing over complete duds.
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>>388459364
The existence of the chinese version of Celceta and the english fan patch should be added to this image (and the fact it'll probably come to steam if Ys 7 does alright). The vita isn't exactly a popular console after all.
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>>388459384
Origin is a great game, I mainly prefer Felghana because I prefer the overworld with exploration structure of an RPG over Dungeon Crawlers. Same reason I'm having issues getting through Sky the Third even though I do like the game.
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>>388459836

The image literally has a note on the right saying that the Chinese version of Celceta can be patched and the first bullet point on the bottom expressly states that playing on PC is the best course of action.
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>>388460253
Disregard me, I'm retarded. I was looking for it in the notes at the bottom.
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>>388450076
>girls
Anon...
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>>388451765
fucking remake baby, enjoy your more shitty everything
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Oath is not as fun as Origin. The bosses are really fun in Oath, but Adol is boring and the areas in-between the bosses are just a massive chore.
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>>388428684
Probably not. I swore off anything NISA touched after the DHD fiasco.
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>>388452476
BIG HOLE
I
G

H
O
L
E
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>>388455213
>ending
If you can call it that. Such a cop-out.
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>>388455498
spotted the sjw
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>>388452476
>Kiergaard
>Big Hole
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still a better choice story than mass effect 3
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>>388461286
What happened? No Vita.
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>>388461670
The ending is and then Adol left Celceta. That's literally it. At least Oath has him help the town rebuild and SEVEN has the dragons giving humanity a sendoff. Celceta has nothing. It really is all journey and no destination.
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>>388445731

I just checked Amazon and you're right. It's like 5 dollars cheaper than the regular amazon prime price for new games (20% off). Neat.
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>6 has an extra mode for challenges
>7 has nothing
Why? I would have made a lot more saves if I knew there was no boss fight mode. Pissed me off almost as much as when I made the mistake in Wild Arms 2 of saving the clear game file over my endgame save file.
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>>388428684
Imported and got platinum on both versions.
Doing a solo Adol, inferno difficulty run soon.
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>>388462643
Same here. I beat both games on the hardest difficulty at the same time (Vita in one hand, PS4 controller in the other) in one hour blindfolded
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>>388462110

Wow, that sounds infinitely worse than Dawn of Ys' ending with the old storyteller in the comfy snowy town.
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>>388462935
It can't be better or worse than any ending because it isn't one. But yeah it was annoying
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>>388428684
>that flat tummy
>that slit navel
if i bought what pleased my dick i would buy this game 10 times
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