Shine 2017

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go alvin

>>388423969
>Pika
>Only slightly better in 64
Pika is the second best character in the game. What the hell?

>>388424086
pika is actually first. but he's also p-good in melee.

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>>388424347
Melee Pika is alright, but nowhere near the god status of SSB64.
But then again, a lot of the good characters in SSB64 are fucking insane.

I just noticed they're playing with 4 stocks instead of 5.
When did the rules change to 4 stock?

>>388424736
No clue. Most have been a very recent change, because the wiki still states games are played with 5 stocks.

Kind of nuts that Wizzy is this legit at 64

>>388425494
Yeah, it's great to see someone do so well in two games. It's so rare these days.

So is Melee after 64? Or is Sm4sh finally taking the spotlight?

>>388426732
no

i kinda wish smash 4 was last so melee wasn't on at 4 am

>>388426732
It says clearly in the OP that Smash 4 comes after 64 THEN Melee. Come the fuck on.

>>388423515
link?

>>388426732
This isn't CEO

>>388423515
where can i see whos top 8 in each smash?

Stinky Thread

>>388429124
Bad post

>>388424086
Pika is best in 64, but he's still high tier in all other smashes

whens this shit over. i wanna see that zero faggot get his shit kicked in

WIZZY PLEASE

Alvin looks like he smells

Is wizzkid ahead of isai in the rankings yet? he should be if not

Man imagine if nintendo wasn't a bitch then the final day would be Sm4sh > PM > Melee

Nonstop hype instead of this polygonal borefest for three hours instead.

i wish wizzy made top 8 melee, fuck shroomed he's boring.

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Your 2017 Shine singles champion!

>>388430228
That's not /our guy/ hbox

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>>388430228
Shit. Sorry. Meant to post this.

>>388430136
>shroomed's 2-year-old marth 3-0'd wizzy's only good char in an even matchup

blame the autist for not adapting properly and overloading his brain with too many smash games

>>388430267
>attentionbox
>anyone's guy

>>388430353
marth falcon is a hard 70 40

So is Peru confirmed just a meme?

Fuck yeah wizzy

wizzy is fucking insane man. only 64 player i enjoy watching

>>388430643
yeah alvin about to underperform in 2 straight tourneys. and we're paying for this spic to fly out to lose to a part-time player lol

>Usmashes Yoshi on the edge
>Sends Yoshi straight up
>Yoshi falls down, without grabbing ledge
What the fuck? You can't grab ledge when tumbling like that?

>>388429039
smash.gg for all bracket info

>>388430970
Didn't see the interaction but could be a number of things like his back being to the ledge or Wizzy accidentally holding down or away if he tried to Smash DI the upsmash when it broke his armor or something.

>>388431115
Yeah, the usmash broke the armor from the double jump, but he was definitely facing the ledge.
Don't see why Wizzy would hold down in that situation.

nuts neutral

fuck me 64 is boring

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>mid set coaching in 64 now too

Isai's Mario would be the best if he tried

>Uair
>Uair
>Uair
>Uair
>Nair/fair
Man, Mario's combo game is basic as fuck.

i always knew mario was better than pika

Oh, damn. He actually pulled through! Who's sitting in losers?

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>>388430267
you're not even trying at this point

>another pika ditto

ill be back for grands

>>388432360
and itll be another pika ditto

prince abu better be prepping m2k right now

64 is like a golf tournament, the commentators all dress in suits and look really official

>>388433254
m2k better be prepping the bull right now

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ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

Johnny "smoke2jointz" Kim is a threat to the community that needs to be contained and ousted. I do not feel safe in the same venue where a player is liable to bursts of physical abuse. First, the assault and beating of Wizzy (an eternal minor) at Pound '16 and now s2j has taken to whatever prop he can get his hands on to feed his unquenchable bursts of physical rage as yesterday against Ice. That this violence will continue escalating until it is contained is self-evident at this point. The terror has gone on too long. This is an open letter that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH and we must bar s2j until he has undertaken the proper reformations necessary to keep smash venues a SAFE SPACE.

Has Wizzy ever won an SSB64 major?

pika menace absolutely btfo

I unironically want to fuck Wizzy in his tight little anus until he's nothing but a slack-jawed cock-crazed bimbo

>Samus

absolute madman

>>388434350
welp

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>>388423969
You have no idea what you're talking about.

>>388434518
>Kirby not overwhelmingly better
>literally a difference of bottom tier to top tier
>not overwhelmingly better

>>388424086
Difference between Melee Kirby and 64 Kirby is much, much greater than difference between M/64 Pikachu

>uwaa m2k is grime abloo abloo
Has the butthurt ended yet?

>>388434849
>luigi
>null
???
if he gets anyone to 60% damage and does an up+B, theyre dead

Who's in Sm4sh top 8?

>>388435165
Faggots

>>388435165
in winners

ZeRo vs Leo

Nairo vs Salem


in losers

Komo vs Ally

Tweek vs Larry

>>388434518
>Jigglypuff
>not in overwhelmingly better tier
You haven't played against a good 64 jigglypuff, have you? She is completely broken in 64.

>>388435360
Everyone is broken in 64, silly, we're thinking tier placements

>>388435117
His slow air movement absolutely gimps him in comparison of Melee, especially in a game where neutral is so important. His options are laughable and he's not exactly the heaviest character so he dies pretty early too.

>>388434954
Pikachu is pretty much the Fox of 64, while Kirby is moreso like Marth in Melee.

t. top 32 player at SSC 2017

>>388435438
Kirby is the 2nd best in 64 while being the worst in Melee, stop dicking around

>>388435315
Meh might watch as long as Larry's in. Fox and Ryu are really the only characters that make Sm4sh singles bearable from a viewership perspective.

>>388435005
who knows the plebs certainly aren't going to be in here yet

>>388435515
Sheik too, in my opinion

>>388435438
Kirby is more like Sheik. Zero execution and pure grease.

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Post your face when Wizzy takes Shine 2017 SSB64 singles!

>>388435552
Too bad Void got upset by some giga-who Bayo

>>388435360
Wangera is the only player who has shown prominent results with jigglypuff. Name another puff you've seen in top 8 in the past year. I'll wait

>>388435697
Bayonetta and Cloud really fucked up the Smash 4 meta. Everything would be better without them.

>>388435702
>inb4isai

>>388435702

Isai

>>388435716
Cloud caused so much butthurt people were calling for a ban in Doubles last week.

>>388435852
>>388435759

Wow that's two players (one of them sandbagging), Jigglypuff sure is broken :^)

>>388429581
Zero /=/ ZeR0 from Chile

>>388435919
>Two players
Anon, read again.

>>388430119
>tr4sh
>nonstop hype

W I Z Z R O B E

>>388435702
>5
Hbox is the only player who has shown prominent results with Jigglypuff. Name one other Puff you've seen in top 8 in the past year. I'll wait.

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Holy fucking hell. Wizzy is recking ass right now.

>>388436056
>inb4PrinceAbu

>>388436056
PrinceAbu

>>388435697
>giga who
No.

Goddamn I love 64. The retarded hitstun and awful recovery options means any character can look like an absolute beast.

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>>388433707
Legendary popoff

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HE FUCKING DID IT!

>>388436763
i love it as well anon. So sad that there aren't any players where i live. would play this any day over maylay.

>>388437265
Play online, join the facebook group and ask for the 64 discord server.

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>tfw Wizzy won a major

>>388437265
Where you live, brah? We could netplay while Smash 4 is going down.
I have never netplayed SSB64

>>388436763
>>388437265
It's great to play, the only drawback is that it eventually inevitably ruins your 64 control sticks.

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>Yassi will never win a Melee tournament other than aMSa winning some obscure Nip tournies

>>388437608
Well, considering how there is legit one single good Yoshi player, who's also living in Japan and the fact that Japan's Melee scene is significantly smaller than that of Europe and America then no, that won't likely happen.

>>388437608
You can do it anon!

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>>388437384
>>388437458
I have such a shit internet the stream is even lagging.

>>388437938
You just need to have a wired connection and I'm sure you'd be fine.

>>388437938
It shouldn't take much to play Smash 64. You just need to be close to eachother.
Where you live, man?

>>388437792
>there is legit one single good Yoshi player

Avalancer in Europe is possibly on the level of aMSa but he never travels. Vectorman is maybe one tier below them.

The problem really is that Yoshi's matchups with Peach and Sheik and Jiggs are so bad that you might as well not even play. Spacies can be comboed and edgeguarded but Yoshi legit does not have the tools to contend in neutral or to kill those characters and so has to rely entirely on mix-ups and matchup inexperience.

>>388438126
switzerland

>>388438128
has amsa ever even played hbox? i'd love to see him try that matchup. i know he's great at the peach matchup, just beat MacD a few months ago

Zero will win this shit with ease. He has gotten back to prime form .

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>Smash themed EDM
>With lyrics
Jesus Christ. Why are Smash streams so bad at intermission songs? Just put on some neutral sounding drum and bass stuff, or video game remixes.

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>tfw norwegian
>"hey dont you live like next to armada and leffen dude? you should be a pro at melee!"

>>388438262
Yeah thought it was way back at MLG Anaheim but apparently it was even longer ago at EVO 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlvoNOUISe4

I SWEAR they played at MLG Anaheim though maybe it's just not up on youtube. Still its funny to see early aMSa where his movement is just a itny bit slow and stiff compared to being maybe the most technical and smooth mover in the entire game now outside of the absolute top 5

>>388438262
>just beat MacD a few months ago
What? When the hell did this happen? Are you sure you're not thinking of Amsah, the Dutch player?

>>388438756
Oh never mind, it was 2-1 MacD last stock last game. Then he made a decent loser's run iirc

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>Falco
>Samus
>Marth/Shiek/Fox
>Puff
>Shiek/Marth
>Falcon
>Ice Climbers
>Fox

>>388438860
>Shiek
Brudi wie geht's?

>>388438701
I think he lost to zero and mango at MLG. man MLG 2014 was so fucking good it sucks it's dead now.

>>388438860
was he autistic?

>>388438860
What is this a reference to?

>>388439510
the top 8 I think

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>>388439084
>>388439125
no bully pls I'm just excited for Melee top 8, all the matches look sick.
>>388439510
melee top 8

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>40 second song loop

>>388439719
Is this from an alternate universe where meltinbro bodies leffeb and he starts crying?

>>388437608

That's because Yoshi is a stupidly difficult character. You have to do an insane amount of technical stuff to even get close to beating the higher tier characters.

Like, to power shield with other characters you have to hit the trigger about four frames before an attack hits. For Yoshi's egg parry it's fucking two frames.

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>Leo will never beat Zero again
It hurts. He's the only player I really like watching in this game.

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>>388439883
>Doesn't recognise that it's from the WF set of Apex 2015 where PPMD bodied Leffen who said he'd never win the tourney

>>388439967
Yeah it's actually kind of funny. Yoshi is the biggest effort to smallest reward character in the game, and yet Fox mains whine about how hard it is to stay technical through a whole tournament consistently because they have to ledge dash.

Yoshi's eggs from the ledge are essentially a ledgedash that you have to do over and over and if you miss one you lose your stock automatically, not to mention his gameplan and meta presence is based 100% around constant movement techniques, timing your aerial armor for trades, and parrying by either having God reactions or God reads. The amount of buttons you have to press compared to the amount of reward you get from pressing them is just silly. Anyone who willingly chooses to play Yoshi in this game is just a masochist.

Finally, good to hear D1 commentate. Getting pretty sick of TK+EE honestly

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>>388440283
>PP

>>388440283
I would also cringe if le reddit Peepeemd kreygasm beat me

>>388440437
>Anyone who is popular is Reddit
Reddit likes Mango or Hbox. PPMD is neutral.

>>388440512
sfat, ppmd and hbox are the ultimate reddit players. leffen, armada and hax are /ourguys/.

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what game should i play until melee top 8 starts?

>>388440878
melee

>>388440878
Melee

>>388440805
>cheering for swedes
nah get out of here ya wiener

>>388440878
Project Melee

https://strawpoll.com/px2rx31f

>>388440985
>being a regionfag

>>388441382
M2K is more than just /ourguy/, he's literally /oneofus/

>>388440417
I really dislike EE for some reason.

I didn't even know D1 was here lol. Guess he hasn't been commetating Melee at all

Come on Ally. It's been too long losing to literal whos, plus you're probably the only one here who can stop the Scarf

smash 4 is pretty boring desu

Is Ally /oursmash4guy/?

>>388442280
Not many hype characters here man. Fox, Ryu, Toon Link, Sheik, Pacman, and plenty of others bring the excitement, but mario is kinda le neutral run around man

>>388442354
Larry > Ally > ... maybe the spic if he ever drops Cloud

Everyone else here is cancer

Based Ally removing japanese Cloud scum.

Tweek about to get FOX'd

>>388438578
Vedder på at dette aldri har skjedd, din grisete tronder

How is rolling a legitimate movement option in Sm4sh? In most games, it's an escape-only option that can be covered, but I see so many times in Wii U players rolling to gain ground, getting grabs after rolls, etc. It's so jarring to me that rolls are so abuseable I guess.

>>388442762
Are you really complaining that a defensive option is be able to be exploited for offense? Roll fucking blew in melee and other smash games, it's pretty damn good in sm4sh and having more good movement options is never a bad thing

the fixed knockback on certain moves in this game is so aggravating. he wasn't even near the fucking blastzone - how did upair kill at 60?

jESUS CHRIST

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>>388442476
Fuck Larry, I've been getting disappointed for 2 years straight now I'm done putting my heart on the line anymore.

>>388443191
I know how it feels liking Void. He should've beat Salem

>>388443191
Not his fault he has to deal with so many Clouds, Sheiks and Bayos in bracket, all awful matchups for Fox

Was Tweek ever this good in Brawl? I feel like he has a case for top 5 these days

Fuck Cloud. He's so fucking boring to watch.

>>388443563
Yeah gimps and combos and super aggro play is super boring. Come on man Tweek makes Cloud fun to watch

If nairo wins this tourney he's back to #2 right? Right behind our guy Zero

>>388443743
Not even close. Salem still won EVO and DH

Whats the melee falco of sm4sh?

>>388443895
ehh both smash con and shine are s-tier events as well. plus nairo's entire year > salem's

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Black People: The Event

>>388444001
sheik in terms of hype and combo potential

>>388444001
ZSS

>>388443658
You know what? You're absolutely right here.
Fuck Bayonetta though.

>>388444001
a hype character? Item Not Found

If Nairo does this he is officially our guy

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>>388444001
I'm no Sm4sh expert but Bayo is lookin pretty Falco-y but that goes up instead of down.

I wonder what Zero thinks about this set. Lmao

>>388444154
This, to be quite honest.

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>By the end of the year everyone has a Diddy

>But Bayo players fall off, barely making top 32

post yfw

>>388444549
Anyone that uses that bitch Diddy is not our guy.

>>388444910
His Diddy is alright, and still much better than Bayo

Guys, who do I root for? I don't really like either of these players.

>bayonetta is brok-

>>388444910
Anyone that co-mains Bowser is defnitely our guy

Salem is m2k's boy so Salem

>>388444950
What's there not to like about Nairo? He's the mang0 of tr4sh

when is our boy locus gonna take a major.

Bayo's nair is so fucking stupid

>>388445103
Yeah. Exactly.

Bayo;s big flaw is she has no stray kill options.

>>388445254
Bair kills.

BAYONIGGA BTFO

NairoW NairoApex

>Bayo is broken guys! She needs a nerf!
>Nairo's Pocket diddy beats the best bayp
Step it the fuck up Zero

>it's OK when nairo plays Diddy!
If it was Scarflard, people would've been rooting for Salem to win.

>>388445254
Her counter will lead to a kill no matter what she counters
Bair kills
Dair kills
Uair kills
Fthrow kills
Bthrow kills
She can still do basic combos into 50/50s at high %s

no reason to bitch, it's much easier for her to kill than Sheik, for example

See you in grands Cuck. This is gonna be EVO all over again with Salem winning Game 10

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Diddy looks pretty fun

>>388445495
No one ever roots for Bayo. We root against Scarflard

>>388445436
Zero is just like Yung "Samus Fox is 60-40 and that's okay" Leff

MKLEO hasn't beat scarfy in a while, right?

>>388445617
Diddy is literal AIDS, but he's fun to play

>>388445720
Not since Zero Saga

>>388445254
The "supposed" weak points for Bayonetta are "bad" frame data (which is moot because of frame 4 Witch Twist) and big landling lag after using her ladder combos, which is almost always irrelevant since she'll land much earlier than you almost every time.

>3 clouds
>1 diddy main, 2 pockets
>1 bayo
>Bayo is broken guys, i swear

>>388445846
Cloud>Diddy>Bayo

the holy trifecta of broken characters.

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Alright I'm bored, anyone got the download link for PM I've been meaning to try it out for a while.
bonus points if its a special version with alot of skins

FUCKING PLOT ARMOR WHAT THE FUCK

>>388445846
Scarflard dickriders just hate her for beating that fat fuck at EVO.

>>388446016
http://www.smashbroslegacy.com/legacy-te.html
Decent amount of skins, plenty of legal stages reskins

>>388446016
I've got some nice skins if you want my pack

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Smash 4 is the only Smash game I prefer to play semi-casually. Or, at least prefer it playing offline, with some friends, rather than going online and doing 1v1.
Not that the game is bad, I just don't really get how to play it well. Sucks too, because it seems like the game gets pretty interesting when you get good, but I just can't fucking seem to grasp the mechanics and stuff.
I have more fun doing 4 player free-for-all than 1v1 For Glory or whatever.

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Is it dying?

Will it survive Smash 5?

>>388446083
i hate her because she's a hard counter to ZSS

>>388446173
>Sonic and Rosa mains complaining about the game no longer being fun
LMAO
M
A
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>>388446153
thanks anon!
>>388446164
Yes please

>>388446173
And nobody will miss him or his boring Rosalina.

>>388446271
Shit, I found out my stages are all fucked. I'll only upload the fighter skins, and you can merge that with base PM, then

>>388446173
>>388446215
>>388446307
>why can't every character be muh flashy rushdown, fuck neutral amirite

>>388446173
Haven't watched any of Shine today, lemme guess; these bitch-ass tweets were caused by a Bayo winning something?

Goddamn Diddy's side-b is bullshit.

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>cloud and zero's diddy
oh boyyy this is so hype bros this is literally the most hype shit i've ever watched

Imagine if he went Meta Knight - the whole damn crowd would be on his side.

He should really try it some time

>>388446552
The only bayo that played today got bodied by a pocket diddy. The game is way more centralized character-wise.

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>>388446480
thats what I was mainly looking for anyways

>>388446552
>omg why can bayo kill so early this game suckksss
>t. rosa main

>>388446173
>Dabuz dropping
Thank god. The game will be slightly more fun that way.

>up air up air up air
ResidentSleeper

>>388446808
>projection: the post
If anything, dabuz is complaining about cloud like always.

Man nairo is our only hope. But we all know he can do it. (And Ally if he somehow makes it to Grands).

>>388446956
>ResidentSleeper
neck yourself my guy

sooo, will nairo go diddy vs zero?
pls no

>>388446997
He beat him two sets in a row with ZSS in Smashcon so chances are he'll go with ZSS again.

>>388446523
>Why can't every game time out, fuck fun amirite

>>388446997
0% chance, nairo is incredibly smart in terms of character picks. He knows Bowser is his best shot.

>all these overwatch ads

lmao, i've never seen a game fall from grace faster than that piece of shit

>>388447259
What happened to it?

>>388447128
>timeouts can't be fun

Melee waiting room CoolCat OHiyo ResidentSleeper

>competitive party games for children
bing bing bing wahoo

>>388447347
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>388447445
OBSESSED

>>388447363
get lost

>>388447332
IDK how big of an effect it had, but Blizzard wanted millions from teams to join the league

>>388447445
Yippee

We need to ban cloud in dubs and bayo in singles guys...

>>388447527
He's not wrong. Time outs are part of the game and they can be really intense.
Hell, even the infamous Armada - Hbox sets from Genesis 2 are pretty fun to watch, despite being so long.

>random 15 minute breaks to show 'esports'-tailored advertisements

PM died for this

>>388446806
They're really old, none of them have any portraits. You'll gonna have to look at the file structure or do some experimentation to find out which skins are over which slot. Some of them are a little memetastic, but it's better than all the edgy shit on brawlbox.

Here you go: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3tcTAWq8yGZaEQxUTBOQkxBYWc

>>388447664
Greetings reddit!

Salem 3-0 and a handshake

Ally is trash vs. Bayo

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>>388447682
Thanks alot my dude

>>388447664
Fuck off Zero

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Why is he trying so hard to not win a major?

>>388447945
No problem

>>388447347
Timeouts can be interesting when they happen sparsely. When a lot of games drag on to the last minute because of a player's (and character's) playstyle then it's fucking boring.

>>388448089
he's apparently going fox if he faces hbox so there is a chance.

>>388448089
Plup is my guy.

Wish he'd play Luigi more.

>>388448089
The Only one he Can't beat with his Samus is probably Fatbox, Hope he avoids him

>>388448089
>goes all samus for the lulz
>still beats Leffen
It Just Keeps Happening

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So much unexplored melee territory and the only explorer we have is Icons

>>388448089
>Gets 7th at Shine 2016 w/ Fox
>Gets 5th at CEO DL w/ Luigi
I think you're underestimating his power.

>>388448309
samus wins the matchup

>>388448247
in a HTC interview he said that he's going Fox for Hbox. if they have to play, that is.

Maybe Nairo was trying to tell Ally to go Diddy

>>388448379
Go back to twitter leffen

>>388448309
Has Leffen ever beaten a Samus that wasn't Hugs or Westballz that one time he tried to fuck around?

>>388448379
true samus wins the matchup 40-60, but that 40 is hard as fuck!

>>388448379
and it's OK

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>>388446173
Competitively, it's just much worse than Melee.
>B-but Melee has no character diver-

Damn this matchup is snoozeville. Usually ally is pretty aggressive but he's playing kinda lame

>>388448615
>Zelda
Does that really count?

>>388448379
>samus wins the matchup
Stages where fox wins:
FD (7:3 in favor of fox, literally impossible for Samus to win here)
Pokemon Stadium (6:4 in favor of fox, hard for Samus, but not impossible like FD)

Even Stages:
Battlefield
Dreamland

Stages where Samus wins:
FoD (6:4 in favor of Samus, can be pretty hard for Fox)

Fox slightly wins, but FD is a HARD counter and a guaranteed win for Fox, which is what gives him the edge in the overall match-up.

>>388448615
>8 different characters in top 8
Wow I can't believe Melee is fucking dead........

I wish both games could coexist sometimes.

>>388448615
>not a single mid or low tier

Meanwhile in sm4sh top 8 we have two non-top 10 chars (fox and mario).

>>388448650
Bayo outranges Mario and Salem's playing with a lot of space so Mario can't get grabs, which is the main source of Ally's attacks.

>>388448615
>Plup and M2K in winners
This is great.
>Chudat and Leffen in losers
>This is great.
>Shroomed and S2J in losers
This is bad.

>>388448757
>Fox
>not top 10
Who the fuck do you get your tier lists from? ESAM? Get the fuck out of here.

>>388448742
Forgot Yoshi's in even stages

>>388448858
Fox gets beat by virtually everry top-tier, hard to call him top 10. Call me crazy but i think even Corrin is better.

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>>388448742
Fuck FD, shit stage. Wish we could mod it out and replace it with Smashville.
That actually might be worse for Samus but better for Melee

Whens Brawl?

Salem, being a Brawl legend, exposes how similar Smash 4 really is to Brawl

how the literal fuck does mario approach from mid-range?

>>388449262
Against Bayo, specifically one that isn't making any large commitments? He doesn't.

>>388449090
I like FD, but it can be a guaranteed win/hard counter in some match-ups, which is pretty bad. Like Fox v Puff, Marth v Spacies, Fox v Samus, Spacies v Sheik, ICs v Spacies, Peach v Spacies. Which makes sense as to why some people have been making arguments in wanting to ban it.

I'm a Falcon main, and I know FD is supposed to be bad but I really like it against spacies. But that's just me personally.

>>388449262
He really can't do much to Bayo.
Mario's very dependant on grabs which Bayo can easily outspace since Mario has small arms. He also can't throw stray hits and hope to convert them into something since the threat of Witch Time is always there.

I can't believe people watch this shit with a straight face. Melee is so superior in every single way it's not even funny

>>388448943
Is this... the true extent... of autism?

>random diddy again

lol

>>388423515

Ill never understand why they decided to depict Link like a parody cartoon drawing

>>388448363
tiers are a meme

>a character that had a lot of confirm combos from throws
>had
>HAD
His throws still have kill confirms at practically any percent, it's just that u-air that's shitty now.

>>388449090
There's actually already a Smashville over Fourside mod that can be booted through memory card hacks. There's a lot of would-be-legal stages that Achilles made that can be memory card booted. Here's the smashboards thread if anyone is interested.

https://smashboards.com/threads/ssbm-stage-expansion-memory-card-exploit.439011/

It's too bad TOs and the Melee community is too bitch made to consider using these when outside of tourneys, everyone already plays Melee through 20XX or Dolphin now anyways, and in tourneys we'd just use memcards with Achillies stages.

Ally's Diddy is so bad.

>>388449262
fireball mid air

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Man, I really like Salem as a person, he's a lot of fun on the M2K streams and he's clearly talented but I just can't stand watching his matches, he's the worst of campy Bayos

Bayonetta is like Jigglypuff there everyone counterpicks with Fox in Melee. Here you counterpick Bayonetta with Diddy Kong.

die AIDS monkey

1 Bayo in top 8 but 3 Diddy Kongs, I think we know who should really be banned KappaPride

>>388449791
Diddy Kong isn't even a great counterpick

Salem has been using Greninja rather than trying to Bayo ditto

>>388449751
It's not his fault Bayo is shit. God damn, why did they stop making patches after releasing the worst fucking character in the game's lifespan? I liked prepatch Diddy better

>Diddy has kill confirms off of down throw at any percentage on a majority of characters in the top 10
>perfectly okay
>Bayo has a handful of actual combos that can kill at any percentage if you're fucking braindead and don't DI/SDI
>BAN THIS SICK FILTH

Mewtwo is even against Bayo. People should use him more.

>>388449976
>It's not his fault Bayo is shit
lol

she loses to Cloud and Diddy, that's it. she's a very good character

>>388449976
Quick reminder that there was a full patch dedicated only to nerfing Bayo.
She was even more cancerous beforehand.

>>388449976
>tr4sh is so shit you need patches for it to be fun
LOL

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>mfw Melee is going to be delayed

best day of my life

Melee is awesome PogChamp Smash4 is tight PogChamp it's great for the community PogChamp if we don't fight PogChamp

>>388450070
She's amazing, but she's shit for the game. I guess that came out a little wrong.
>>388450098
I know, but all that did was remove her 100% inescapable zero-to-death combos. She's still cancerous
>>388450145
Remove Cloud and Bayo and it's a great game

DK is fun to watch in Sm4sh and Melee.

Fight me.

>>388450056
Blame Zero and his Bayo is toxic video

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>DK is good
>but only in sm4sh

this is suffering

Buff Jigglypuff and Dedede

neither went cloud PogChamp

how is Leo so fucking terrible against Heavies? everyone could just go Bowser or DK against him and win

>>388450306
Tweek's DK is so fun

>>388450306
why would anyone fight you on that

>>388450378
i swear to god if he goes bayo

>MKLeo's character select for game 2 almost took longer than the actual game 1

>>388450365
>>388449915
>PogChamp
>KappaPride

fuck off

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

why is Leo throwing?

E D
X O
P N
A G
N
D O N G

>>388450456
FUCK YOU

>>388450548
He sold out

>>388450539
PJSalt

>>388450456
Why the fuck did you curse us?

Alright, Leo gave up

>>388450548
he can't win against DK or Bowser. Even though Cloud is fucking great against Heavies

Tweek and Nairo always use their pocket DK/Bowser against Leo and win.

>>388450539
CoolCat I was linked here from Twitch chat stop being mad CoolCat

Wow I'm not a sm4sh character but there's a Bayo in every set or every other set now. I guess Evo 2017 was the awakening of Bayo like how Evo 2013 was the awakening of Fox haha xD

>>388450554
>>388450642
Don't worry, you get the joy of seeing DK stomp the shit out of her

SO WE'RE FINALLY HERE

PERFORMING FOR YOU

DING DONG

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>388450709
B@ck to reddit with you young one.

>No ;)
holy shit

>tr4sh

>NO :)
Alpha as FUCK tweek

Hyuga dressed up as Leo to get back into the states

Cloud ditto the poor man, he's begging for it!

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So people hate Bayo because she actually has a bunch of tools, options, and combos instead of being shit and one dimensional like the average smash 4 character?

>>388450940
Bayo is a Melee character in a Brawl game.

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can anyone give an estimate for how long sm4sh will take?

>>388450940
>bunch of tools
Camp them out with nair and bair, both of which cannot be punished as long as you're not retarded

See an opening? Spam specials until they die

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We got a Dk in top 8? meybe Smash 4 is reedemlbe

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>this set

SM4SH SAVED

>>388451020
after this 4 more matches

Post yfw you lived long enough to see donkey kong require counterpicks.

Leo has a very good Shulk, he could've at least tried that instead of fucking Toon Link.

Donkey Kong and Bowser being used seriously in Top 8s cured my cancer.

God, I hope Tweek takes this

ded tink

monkey > ganon

DONG STATUS: EXPANDED

>>388451213
>i hope a cancerous cloud shitter takes this

Kys

>>388451079
>>388451029
This is why Cloud is nowhere near the problem of Bayonetta's, he should just be banned in doubles

He loses to heavies, hard

>mkleo
>number 2 player in the world

maybe for a weekend but those days are long gone

LITTLE TWINK BOY GETS A GIANT GORILLA'S DING DONG EXPANDED INSIDE HIM

>>388451139
Its always a treat seeing them in action and winning.

GET FUCKED LEO

>>388451250
His DK is great, and his Cloud is very aggressive. Definitely the best player to root for among the ones who still remain.

why did MKLeo throw it away

If tweet tried that shit on our guy Zero it would be the quickiest 6-stock in sm4sh history.

>Nairo vs Zero
Nairo chokes, misses his grabs and Zero wins it 3-2

My prediction

>>388451354
Eh, Nairo still in this bitch. He's my guy anyway

>>388451369
Tweek's DK took Zero to game 9 the last time he whipped it out, I think

Nario has to go Bowser.

>>388451359
He's shit.

probably the best rivalry in this shitty game, and it's mostly due to their brawl history

>>388451517
Nairo will go down two games before he pulls out Bowser

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>Smash 4 is supposedly balanced
>but they're discussing possibly banning Cloud

hmmm.....