/dsg/ - Dyson Sphere General

Blame!

>>388407202
Shouldn't generals go on /vg/?

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Xth for Race X

>>388407202
Are you boys done getting fucked up the ass by DOTA2 fans?

>>388407332
Is there a Dota 2 hero that can defeat the Combine?

>>388407332
Na, DOTA fans are bottoms.

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>>388407202
Daily reminder that you will never, ever, E V E R get to see the Dyson sphere scene in game for the first time.

>>388407354
>>388407356
>Overwhelmingly positive

thread about weebshit
>OMG MOVE GENERALS TO VG!!!

thread about le based hl3 xDDDD
>its ok when I like the game

>>388407702
You seem upset.

What's up with these threads? Was a K2 civilization supposed to be the antagonist in HL3 or something?

>>388407702

Are you fucking autistic?

This is a general about dyson spheres not HL3 you downy fuck

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>>388407702
Ironic shitposting is still nothing but shitposting,

Shame on you.

>>388407848
dice on's fear is not

v i d e o g a me

>>>/vg/

None of you knew about dyson spheres two days ago.

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I got your Dyson right here.

>>388407848
LITERALLY
no one cared about or even knew what is a dyson sphere before that shitty leak for you shitty never ever released game

>>388407828
In case you've been living under a rock, the lead writer for the Half-Life games released a full summary of what the plot of Half-Life 3 would have been. The biggest reveal in it is that the Combine are astronomically bigger than humans anticipated, to the point where they have at least one Dyson sphere as part of their civilization. Of course, this means that the humans' efforts to fight the Combine are all for naught since the Combine are several orders of magnitude more powerful and more advanced than us.

nerds

>>388407949
>tfw invented dyson sphere's in my head when i was a kid
>tfw growing up and found out someone already came up with that

fuck you dyson you faggot

>>388408005
>he didnt already know what a dyson sphere is

found the underage

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>>388407967

>>388408016
>Half-Life 3
What is wrong with you fucking idiots? He even called it 'Epistle 3'

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>solar system RPG without aliens will never happen
why live

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>>388408107

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If megastructures interest you, you should read Ringworld.

>>388407702
You mean those waifu bait threads with literally zero discussion of the game?

>>388408152
You can always make one yourself with RPG Maker :-)

>>388407537
>"I play the worst kind of video-game on earth."

Fun fact, Dyson spheres wouldn't actually work, with how gravity works it would just end up colliding with the star (and that's assuming you could even find enough material to make it, there isn't enough matter in our solar system to even come close to making one).

>>388408229
>I don't play games, because they get cancelled in favor of others

>>388408241
This post is wrong, and the poster hasn't done any calculations. Rather they are a pop-science pseud.
Additionally, a Dyson sphere would be implemented as a swarm of smaller panels, not a solid body.

>>388408016
All right, I've indeed been living under a rock.

But yeah, a complete Dyson sphere/swarm could comfortably house a population of 10^25 for instance (if it was fully dedicated to habitation and their needs are similar to those of humans), which is mind-boggling. Like, if as big of a part of their population was biologists as they're in our civilization, they could devote as many biologists as we have to study every natural stellar body that could possibly host life in the galaxy (let's say the cutoff point would be Earth/Venus/Mars/Europa/Titan/Enceladus in our solar system). Or, devote an inconsequential part of their total energy production to glass all conceivably habitable planets in the galaxy with Nicoll-Dyson laser or relativistic kinetic missiles. Or produce heavier elements than iron with particle accelerators because they just have that much energy available to them they don't care it's absurdly inefficient (elements up to iron could be made in fusion, which such a civilization is probably capable of).

>>388408241
You dont understand how gravity works then

>>388408241
anon, a person who invented it made the calculations and people over the years double checked - it will work, it would take million years to build but it will work

>>388408447
>a person who invented it
Oh shit, where is it?

>>388408241
Freeman Dyson proposed a swarm of smaller bodies (an idea of a rigid shell comes from later writers) and it's entirely plausible. It's not even high-tech per se, just astronomically resource and labor intensive.

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>>388408463

>>388408241
brainlets, when will they learn?
Assuming you have a dyson sphere, as a single continuous spherical object, how is a gravity source at its exact center supposed to move it in any direction? It's gravity will simply be trying to pull the whole thing inward, and if the structure is strong enough to resist that, you're golden.

>>388408549
Based Dyson

>its a I read the Dysom Sphere post on the wikipedia and now I'm a scientist episode
Would you please stop embarrassing yourselves?

>>388408587
Its going to be spinning around the star as well, making any inward pull nearly irrrelevant

>>388408587
Gravity isn't a constant across an objects surface, it varies.

>>388408696
this must be a conspiracy theory to make people interested in them

>>388408764
I'm sure the engineers who are capable of planning and building a fucking dyson sphere would remember that gravity exists and make sure the sphere's mass is balanced

>>388408696
Dude it's a theoretical mega structure there's not much to underrstand.

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>>388408696
>it's a 'brainlet only ever heard about dyson spheres in the last few days and wasn't already knowledgeable about classical sci-fi concepts' episode
I bet you don't even know what an O'Neill cylinder is

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>half life is almost 20 years old
>half life fans didn't know what a dyson sphere was
?

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>>388408960
>>388408972
gundammind

>>388407537
Junkies

>>388408960
>It's an 'I watch isaac arthur videos' episode

>>388409127
who?

so a dyson sphere absorbs energy from a star. how does that energy then get transferred to space stations and planets for use?

>>388407202
which games got Dyson Spheres in them?
looks like an interesting setting

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>>388407202
>>388407397
Reminder that Breen knew about the Dyson sphere in HL2 Beta and knew about the futility of fighting the combine because it was the equivalent of trying to beat an elephant with a feather

reposting from another thread

*
>Ooh... Eli.
>If only you could see what I've seen.
>You wouldn't be so shortsighted!
>I have studied 36 zones beyond our own.
>Carbon stars with ancient satellites colonized by sentient fungi. Gas giants inhabited by vast meteorological intelligences. Worlds stretched thin across the membranes where [the] dimensions intersect... Impossible to describe with our limited vocabulary!
>Once Eli has convinced himself of something, not even the truth can change his mind.
>Well, if you'd like to reconsider your involvement in the program, Eli, it would make a huge difference in how quickly we could make the Combine portals safe for human use.
>That way, Alyx, and even yourself, might be able to travel to the Aleph Universe with your faculties intact.
>That is our ultimate goal, after all, to move freely to the continuum to make our incipient immortality worthwhile.
*

>the real Combine are literally immortal and they probably reside in the Aleph universe

>>388409127
>implying based Isaac wrong

>>388409150
there is no planets, you realize the thing would be bigger than the size of all planets in solar sytem put together?

>>388409150
Why would you need space stations and planets if you have a structure with a surface area greater than that of a red giant star?

>>388408201
and it shows why these kinds of megastructures are mind-bogglingly huge and impractical even for ultra-advanced civilizations

>>388408960
while we're here how realistic would space elevators from 00 be

>>388408107
Subtle.

>>388409291
I'm sure barbarians that saw Rome or Memphis for the first time thought the same.

>>388409304
the question is in materials and the need
physically it's possible

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>>388408107
KEK

>>388408764
the sun is so massive and has such a large gravitational field that the pull of gravity across the near perfect sphere will might as well be constant at any point on the sphere.

>>388409304
They would require enormous amounts of carbon nanotubes or something just as strong, countless billions of strands of them, each strand being thousands of kilometers long.
Frankly, I think high altitude balloons/zeppelins paired with smaller rockets intended to be fired from high altitude and caught by orbital skyhooks would be more practical, even IF we had the tech needed for large scale manufacture of super strong materials.

>>388408241
a civilization at that level doesn't even think about gravity anymore

>>388409150
Microwaves for instance (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space-based_solar_power#Microwave_power_transmission), but it's worth noting a Dyson swarm doesn't need to consist of pure solar panels that produce energy for off-site installations but a part (or entirety, doesn't matter) could be orbital habitats such as O'neill cylinders that produce their own energy. Or if it was a rigid shell (a less plausible concept), people could just live on the surface.

Anyhow, a sphere is the worst possible shape to arrange mass into living space. A single Dyson sphere/swarm would have roughly as much surface area as all planets in the galaxy combined. A civilization might opt to preserve their home planet instead of cannibalizing it into raw materials but virtually no one would live on planets in that kind of advanced civilization.

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>>388409162
>That way, Alyx, and even yourself, might be able to travel to the Aleph Universe with your faculties intact.
The- the WHAT?

>>388409529
shkadov thrusters sound more fun, just take you planet and travel round the galaxy with it

>>388407202
Living in a Dyson sphere would be a real good way to get nuked.

>>388408447
Dyson never referred to sphere surrounding stars, just detectable objects with an unnatural origin.

>>388409304
Calculations would imply carbon nanotubes/graphere is strong enough to build the cable (and you can make it thicker in one end to compensate) but we haven't produced large enough quantities of them to check how well they work in practise (a hundred times higher surface area, ie. 10 times thicker cable, in the geostationary orbit would still be manageable, but at some point it's just not worth it). A space elevator in the moon for example would work with materials we can already mass produce (zylon/kevlar) but there mass drivers or other launch systems might be preferable due to absence of atmosphere.

An orbital ring has also been proposed that would have one end much lower than geostationary orbit and in that regard the strength of materials wouldn't be an issue, but it'd also be far more labor-intensive.

>>388409678
Once you have the capabilities to build a Dyson sphere you've become enlightened/hive mind past the point of having wars.

>>388409559
http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Prospero

Literally the combine overworld

>>388409884
No foo, nuked from that star. Solar radiation/winds is no fucking joke.

>>388409678
Why?

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>>388409678
>you fire your nuke at my dyson sphere
>it's already shielded against ionizing radiation because it's a space habitat that contains A FUCKING STAR
>there's no pressurized atmosphere enveloping it to cause a destructive explosive shockwave
>the nuke just temporarily melts a small portion of the outer surface structure, possibly damaging some of the outermost interior portions that are just used for waterworks or cargo storage (although unlikely, in outer space the best way to do armor is to have the layers separated by significant gaps of vacuum, and the heat likely wouldn't transfer past the first layer)

>>388410001
Anon, you don't live on the inside, that kinda defeats the whole point.

>>388410001
You'd build it at Earth distance or a bit further, and it doesn't take that much matter to shield you from radiation (10 meters of water for example is an equivalent amount to Earth atmosphere). Artificial magnetosphere wouldn't exactly be a problem either given that you have seemingly limitless energy at your disposal.

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Why don't we just nuke the star?

Whatever it is, humans will find a way to destroy it.
It's not inconcievable that there could be a way to destabilize the star and cause supernova.
Bye bye Dyson.
Instead they just gave up like pussies. They're not real human beans.

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>>388410169
>nuke a star

>>388409926
>No wiki entry on the dyson sphere
Step it up HL nerds.

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>>388407202

>construct Dyson sphere
>gypsies steal the metal, never to be seen again

>>388410198
>It's not inconcievable that there could be a way to destabilize the star and cause supernova.
Just use the borealis time machine fuckery to age it 10 billion years in 10 seconds
There, combine dead and freeman too

>>388410095
>Dyson Sphere
>cant live inside
>cant live outside
>spends most its energy keeping it's self from being destoryed

Dyson Spheres fucking suck.

>>388410240
You just have to nuke it hard enough

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leaked concept art

>>388409162

Alex Jones new protag

>>388410373
you live in the interior of the shell
This thing would have to be THICC

>>388410427
I fuken knew it

>>388410427
lol

>>388410334
>The K2 civilization has deliberately shrunk their star to make it more efficient and longer-lived, allowing the star to live for 10 trillion years instead

>>388410373
This. Dyson spheres are for brainlet tier civilizations. Real civs create mini black holes at will and harness their energy.

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>>388409162
I really would've liked to have a talk with Breen.

>>388410240
Gotta show that stupid ball whos boss!

>>388410427
>tfw you eat the solar system and become a gabe sphere

>>388410472
Rule 34 Dyson Sphere

>>388410513
You need to spend more energy keeping the mini black hole alive than you would ever hope to get out of it.
And with a full sized black hole, you'd need to build your energy collection facilities at such an enormous distance to avoid relativistic shenanigans that it'd be more efficient to just collect energy from a star.

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>>388410518
Breen saw the bigger picture that we failed to understand all these years

>>388410624
You think in such three dimensional terms.

>>388410639
Unfortunately his rhetoric was way off base. Gloating in front Eli and Gordon and Alyx was not the best way to get them to realize the gravity of the situation.

>>388410693

You ruined Star Trek.

>>388410427
extra lunches and vending machines weren't enough

>>388410639
Whats the ocean done for us anyway?

>>388410624
If Hawking's calculations are right, big (includes every naturally occurring one, at least those formed from dying stars) black holes basically don't radiate any energy at all. It's the small ones with megatons of mass that might be useful as batteries (and really small ones would emit Hawking radiation like an atomic bomb so they're not useful either).

>>388410727
Probably because Eli and Alyx should've already realized it but refused to. They saw the seven hour war firsthand. Eventually you just give up trying to persuade people like that.

>>388410812

Oxygen's pretty important.

>>388410831
>They saw the seven hour war firsthand.
That's a good point, forgot about that. But then you have lines like these:
Dr. Breen-Dr. Freeman, you really should not be out there. At the moment of
synapse as I teleport this chamber will be bathed in deadly particles that
have yet to be named by human science. Perhaps when I have the leisure to do
the work myself, I will name one after you. That way you will not be
completely forgotten. When the singularity collapses, I will be far away from
here, in another universe in fact. You on the other hand will be destroyed in
every way possible, and even some essentially impossible.

>>388410727
>>388410831
>>388409162
Breen wants Eli and Alyx to ascend/travel to the combine overworld despite being considered an enemy by them

>>388409162
The HL2 story changed dramatically from the Beta, though. Wouldn't take this as much evidence of anything.

>>388410249
not canon until EP3 is made

>>388408107
>tfw you see loss almost all the time now

>>388410851
Hey water boy, Oxygen sucks Sulfur is better.

>>388410775
How small you've become.

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>>388410639
And he wanted to talk with Gordon. Ever since I finished the game, I kept wishing I could've heard his side of the issue in more detail.
I've never been a Breenfag though, I still held him responsible for Earth's fate ever since the resonance cascade. But I would've liked to hear what he had to say to defend his actions.

>>388410727
He revealed that he somehow knew more about Gordon's contract with G-man than Gordon himself knew about it. If I had truly been in Gordon's shoes, that would've made me listen to him. And I would've wanted to hear how much Eli and Alyx knew about that contract, too, and why did they not want Breen to talk about it.

Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVGcwoqgbyE

why are people so dead set on destroying the sphere ?
I think we're forgetting the actual point here : making the combines fuck off earth.

destroying a dyson sphere wouldn't even begin to scratch the combine super empire

time travel ?
now that's an idea.
the boostrap device didn't just "pop" into existence, it was built, it's still there, somewhere out of the combine's reach, deep inside the Aperture Science labs.
My take is, humanity can escape the future that is the Combines, they just gotta go back, back to the labs, samurai jack

>>388410978

That's right. You make me flaccid.

>>388411020
FOOLISH ORANGE SCIENTIST

the Combine versus the BETA
who would win

>>388411071

muvluv is fucking stupid

>>388411071

The Combine would beat you, anon.

>>388409152
Final boss of infinite space is one, I think.

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>Breen was right all along.

>Ooh... Eli.
>If only you could see what I've seen.
>You wouldn't be so shortsighted!
>I have studied 36 zones beyond our own.
>Carbon stars with ancient satellites colonized by sentient fungi. Gas giants inhabited by vast meteorological intelligences. Worlds stretched thin across the membranes where [the] dimensions intersect... Impossible to describe with our limited vocabulary!

>Once Eli has convinced himself of something, not even the truth can change his mind.
>Well, if you'd like to reconsider your involvement in the program, Eli, it would make a huge difference in how quickly we could make the Combine portals safe for human use.
>That way, Alyx, and even yourself, might be able to travel to the Aleph Universe with your faculties intact.
>That is our ultimate goal, after all, to move freely to the continuum to make our incipient immortality worthwhile.

>the real Combine are literally immortal and they most likely reside in the Aleph universe
>it's probably the Dyson sphere
FUCK

>>388411052
You were always flaccid. Your mom said so.

>>388411216
>>388409152
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyson_spheres_in_popular_culture#Games

>>388411296
The beta isn't remotely canon, the story changed massively since the leak.

>>388410639

Maybe the whole thing was so humans become the combine itself and take over because rule of cool

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Reminder that if you want an FPS on a Dyson shpehre, there's Prey

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You know, despite the shitposts and such based around them I always loved the concept of Ring worlds and Dyson spheres and such
But I was always curious about other Sci-fi artificially built planets and shit what other type of stuff like that is there besides those two types of structures?
also on the same note what type of structure is the Ark From halo 3 called?

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>>388411526
>the only way to defeat the combine is to become the combine and destroy them through internal conflict
BREEN FUCKING KNEW THIS AND WE FUCKED UP EVERYTHING

>>388411336
>HL3 is there already

>>388411671

the G-man works for the combine and uses Gordon to sabotage the only effective means of resistance

>>388412020

Gman more like Jewman hehehhehehhehe

>>388412074

clever

>>388411567
You could look at Wikipedia's list for megastructures (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megastructure) or megastructure series on Isaac Arthur's Youtube channel (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLIIOUpOge0LtW77TNvgrWWu5OC3EOwqxQ) for instance.

>>388411405
The leaked 2003 build is almost identical to the retail game in terms of structure and story, all the shit you're thinking of was cut or changed way before that

>guy who created the concept of the dyson sphere was Freeman Dyson
>Freeman
whoa........

>>388408107
goddamnit

>>388407949
>I am le superior because I knew first
I wish people like you would just neck yourselves

>>388413253
t. mad as fuck brainlet

>>388407949
>>388408005

>Being uneducated nignogs

I've known what a Dyson sphere is for years now. Alternatively I've no idea what Half Life has to do with this since I've never cared about those games. There's a Dyson sphere in Half Life?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tYKnVe8oLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVCpBr3fxdE
>There might be a Dyson sphere in our galaxy
The future is now bois

>>388413520
I don't know about the other one but Tabby's Star most definitely is not a (incomplete) Dyson sphere/swarm, it'd be visible in the infrared

>>388408413

It's pretty cool if you think about it. Even if all of humanity packed up and moved to Mars and we weaponized the entire planet Earth and sent it crashing into a Dyson swarm, a literal planet cannonball, it wouldn't really harm them in any cataclysmic way. The vast majority of the Dyson swarm would be fine.

>>388407949
I know things you don't.

>>388411567
I remember one book or story about some group crashing on flat world
They they were from civilization so advanced that they custom made planets with their own histories for clients
The twist was that the flat world was from beginning of their universe that was built few thousands or hundreds years ago
It was pretty cool concept

>>388413446
>There's a Dyson sphere in Half Life?
Not anymore.

>>388408107
This shit is getting waaaay to abstract for me now.

>>388408016
Then why are they fucking with humanity? It would be like me invading and dominating a colony of ants.

>>388414369
Except these ants have the tech that would let you get to mars instantly, you only knew how they operate it..

>>388411071
combine, beta aren't even k2

>>388407949
>knew about Freeman Dyson
>knew about buckyballs and geodesic domes
>knew about Dyson swarms and spheres
Get bucked, Gormon Layman.

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>>388407354
there is a few of them

>>388414676
yea but there are 10^37 BETA or something
the creators of the BETA probably might win though

Why didn't Gordon do what needs to be done to defeat the enemys?

>>388415334
beta can't even into galactic warfare. If your main threat is invasion by some infantry units (however far advanced) then you are shit tier and can't play with the big boys

>game about shooting the same bunch of masked mooks over and over with the most uninspired arsenal of weapons ever
>and doing the same seesaw puzzle over and over
>suddenly everyone is talking about dyson spheres and galactic warfare like it was ever actually in the game
hilarious

>>388407949
Anyone who has played Halo games should know that its the inspiration for the rings

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>>388407949

>>388407202

hollow earth confirmed

>>388408241
>with how gravity works

gravity is magic

>>388407354
Ancient Apparition perhaps? Dude is a representation of the heat death of the universe.

tfw he can get killed by an angry red nigger with an axe

>>388414369
>>388414594
>Ants again
FUCKING STOP

>>388417524
Somebody got ants crawl in her vagina.

>watch 5 Issac Arthur videos
>tfw im now a genius

>>388407949
>being a brainlet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KIC_8462852

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Hello. If the sphere envelops the entire star, how do they build said sphere around star? Stars are be hot?

>>388407949
I was introduced to the idea of Dyson Spheres or Swarms when Tabby Star was discovered.

>>388407202
How do you protect from harmful uv radiation inside a sphere?

>>388417860
the builders use sunscreen duh

>>388417860
heat resistant heavy iron isotopes

>>388417860
>implying they build the sphere layer right on the fucking surface of the sun
lol

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>>388407949
Jokes on you, Destiny taught me

>>388417634
who the fuck is isaac arthur and why do underage normie brainlets think that's the only reason people know about hard science fiction?

>>388408107
>lossfags

get a hobby nigger

Why didn't the Alyx think to harness the power of the ship to envelop its content around the earth somehow and teleport the planet to another time and space then kill off whatever Combine left on it. If you can't defeat a universe of Combine then the only option would be to hide

>>>/sci/

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>>388418249
Because she was hellbent on destroying it, just as planned/engineered by G-Man.

Mossman was right in that a time-travel device could help resistance save Earth or even reverse the 7-Hour War, but the twat-man simply wants to ruin everyone and everything so that no one has any teleport tech at all.

>>388415347
>a type 0 civilization holding a candle to type 3 or higher civ
It's not possible my man. and just because they're that ahead, they'll always stay ahead.

>>388407202
*detonates trih xeem*
nothing personnel, swaern-wsawn tshah

>>388408972
>>388408960
Their soul is weighed down by gravity.

>>388414369
>It would be like me invading and dominating a colony of ants
People do that all the time though

>>388408201
don't get memed into reading this book, it sucks dick

>>388417860
They build it at night when the sun is down

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>>388418625

>>>/sci/9131920

>>388407949
Yes I did, I learned about it from that civilization scale I forgot the name of

What I don't understand is, if the Combine are so immensely powerful, why was their main method of stopping resistance on earth foot soldiers and striders/gunships which are basically no more powerful than tanks and helicopters? Why couldn't they have just wiped out resistance with space magic?

>>388413640
The other one is Tabby's star

>>388411529
>prey sphere
>roams around abducting people for work and food

>dyson sphere
>megastructure placed around a star to harness its energy output

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>>388418907
Because writer's inconsistency anon.You cannot have a viable story about Resistance if the enemy is all-powerful, and you cannot have a cosmic horror ending if the enemy is barely a step above you. You cannot have both and as much as I like Laidlaw's writing, this is just BS that leaves you pondering questions that are nothing more than simply inconsistent writing.

>>388417524
fine.
>backwards ass indegenious people vs transformers

>>388409162
>brainlets on /v/ discovering what Aleph means
Feels good

>>388407202
A Dyson sphere under construction wouldn't look anything like this.
The structures around it would appear as a haze, an occlusion, finer than a gauze of spider’s silk.
Over time, seen from earth, the Sun would simply dim.

>>388410427
>I was so hungry Jon

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>>388408107
clever

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>>388410281
kek

>>388418907

The ones taking care of the earth weren't even Combines but from a lower caste and all Combine soldiers were just enslaved humans or humans who were friendly to their "cause" (Civil Protection).

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>>388416487
Kek, it's like "kaiju" when that movie came out. All these faggots flaunting their newly learned word.

>>388410281
>laughing quarian whores.jpg

>>388418907
It was a test for Breen and humanity's entrance into the Combine. They're doing this to thousands if not millions of other worlds simultaneously. Earth is not that important to them.

>>388411020
>>388411054
Glados meets a Black mesa employee, I can't see that going welll

>>388407949
I do. Though, technically Dyson Swarms to be exact.

>>388408549
Looks like older Bill Nye.

>>388418907
The real answer is because as a player that wouldn't be any fun to go up against, some literal space magic bullshit. In-universe it really doesn't make any fucking sense, if the Combine wanted teleporter technology so bad they would be sending their best agents to secure that shit, not the dregs of their armed forces as implied in-game.

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>>388407239
A next to silent protagonist with a special "gun" that continuously moves forward to his goal moving through settlements of rather dazed disheartened populous that more often than not gets wiped out by the bio-mechanical horrors of the oppressing force.
And at times our hero get's a little bit of help from the enigmatic G overment types

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>>388420684
Yeah there seems to be a real discrepancy in the plot between "the combine are so huge that they don't actually care about earth much" like >>388420020 said, and "earth has portal/time travel technology which the combine really want"

>>388421038
You can see why the game was never released now.

>>388421038
There's no real discrepancy IMO. The Combine want the teleport/time travel tech, but they don't care that much about the rest of the Earth. Earth is basically just a nice little extra, which is why they left behind only some token troops and put Breen in charge. They never expected an actual uprising so there was no point in sending their best troops.

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>>388420721
Fuck you I want a Blame game now

Can somone posts the images where Gordon observes the Sphere and Alyx killing Mossman?

Can't find anywhere.

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>>388420690

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One thing that bugs me about all of the dyson sphere art posted is that the sphere itself it is never complete. There's always fucking holes all over it so you can clearly see the sun, which defeats the point of why a dyson sphere is so imposing. The point is that this civilization is so technologically advanced that they have effectively extinguished the sun and are using every ounce of it's power for their own purposes.

>>388408241
Just rip some mass from the star and then use fusion to make it into more useful shit lmao.

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>>388421320
>784 days since bac9 last updated.
it hurts senpai

>>388421424
what happened to her hands

>>388421038

I think this portal tech is being overstated. For all we know they have another research facility in their sphere already replicating it.

It was also very reliant on Xen and that has its own complications outside of Earth.

>>388420684
>>388421038
This assumes Earth is the only planet with interesting technology for them and that this pursuit isn't just a normal, repetitive occurrence. If they're pursuing different leads across multiple dimensions there's no reason to believe they'd put special emphasis on Earth and send central forces that are probably preoccupied with subjugating some other world now.

>>388421424
Google Nicoll-Dyson Beam or Shkadov Thruster

>>388408241
>Not enough resources
1% of the mass of the Sun is enough to build a Dyson sphere.

>>388414296
it's a forced dumb posting by an autistic samefag

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>>388418724

>>388422123
>1% of the mass of the sun
so more than the mass of anything that currently orbits it at the moment?

>>388422220
How new are you?

>>388421239
I can understand them not bothering to send major forces to destroy the resistance initially - but why, when they discovered that Earth held tech they wanted, didn't they immediately send some better dudes in to crush everyone and retrieve the technology in peace? It seems like a silly risk to basically say "there's this thing we really want and the resistance know about it, but we're not going to send any reinforcements because uhhh"

>>388418119
we have dyson spheres in Destiny?

>>388422249
>what is starlifting
God, you people have no idea how K2 niggas go about their business.

>>388422249
Not that guy and that's actually an over estimate. If you wanted to just make solar panels, you could literally just strip the asteroid belt and have enough stuff. If you wanted living space, there's enough matter in the inner four planets.

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>>388421038
Earth has technology that combine really want, but they didn't think it was a threat enough to leave any really powerful shit on it. Which it wouldn't be IRL, combine soldiers with their weaponry would disintegrate any rebellion. Guerilla warfare works only when you're not openly fighting. In no non-videogame scenario I can see any part of Half Life 2 happening.

>Kleiner's lab being so deep inside the city, combine would instantly know when someone is tapping into their power supply. It wouldn't even be built, because how can you sneak so much technology into there?
>His lab would be stormed the moment those scanners saw Gordon and Kleiner in the window behind him
>Gordon could probably go through most portions in the canal considering he's fighting unmodified shitty humans and he would sneak most of the time, no chance in hell he would survive an open confrontation
>Gordon would die when he stands at that turret and an APC drives up to shoot him with rockets. Doesn't matter which weapon it would use IRL. a .50, grenade launcher, actual rocket, it would target and eliminate him instantly.
>Gordon would surely die in that manhack trap where there's dozens of them
>Gordon would die from that helicopter and wouldn't even know what happened because the helicopter would hover 8 kilometers away, targeting him with guided missles, that are again, super fast IRL. Ok, maybe the chopper would be closer because canals are uneven terrain, but that air-boat has zero chance unless it can go invisible and stop emitting heat.
>I guess he can survive ravenholm
>He would die from that sniper though because snipers are fast. Unless there was a way to sneak past.
>Gunships would disintegrate Gordon and every rebel at every base they attacked because they're advanced alien tech and therefore should automatically be better than our best helicopters/fighter jets

I'm tired, but you get the point. Not even talking about full scale street-war where combine are fully mobilized.

>>388412702
I watched this video by awwthuuhh posted in last nights thread, it was actually very well done
however, he keeps mentioning how each current human could have a continent sized living space to himself
my question is where the fuck is all the dirt and water coming from? is this just a problem the future will have to solve?

>>388422581
Wow, gee. It's almost like Gordon is in a video game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlmKejRSVd8

>>388422832
>someone else watches IA
my nigga

>>388407202
What would happen if you collided a dyson sphere into a bigger dyson sphere?

>>388422824
But I did mention that. My point is that combine strategy is safe and sound, and they only lost because videogame meta.

>>388422581
>combine would instantly know when someone is tapping into their power supply.
Yes, the race with infinite energy will give a shit about somebody scamming some energy.
>It wouldn't even be built, because how can you sneak so much technology into there?
Is not like they have teleportation technology or anything.

>>388423050
What if you built a dyson sphere around a dyson sphere?

>>388423050
What if one was a dyson sphere made of lava and one was a dyson sphere made of ice?

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>>388423221
>>388423148
>>388423050
Stop.

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>>388423148

You have begun the construction of a matrioshka brain. Welcome to the world of AI constructs that cannot be describe as anything but GODLIKE.

If they exist and can simulate whole virtual worlds, you are almost certainly probably part of one of them by statistics alone.

>>388423050
I imagine what happens specifically to the sphere is irrelevant. What's important is that the stars in the center would crash into eachother and that would completely obliterate anything remotely close to the collision.

>>388423148
The second Dyson sphere would be completely useless as it wouldn't receive any energy from the star.

>>388423447
Shit sorry, I forgot about this >>388423395 ignore my second reply.

>>388423148
Then you cuck the aliens who made the first dyson sphere out of their energy

>>388423221
How can Dyson Spheres be real if our eyes aren't real?

>>388423395
>>388423148

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ef-mxjYkllw

>>388423148
For what purpose?

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>>388423713

Maximum computer efficiency. Fuck entropy.

>>388423148
S H E L L W O R L D S


Go read Matter

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>>388423145
>Yes, the race with infinite energy will give a shit about somebody scamming some energy.
That's like saying a country with trillions GDP will give a shit if I steal a candy bar. The top branches of combine don't control everything. To keep a place like City 17 running you need government organs and services to think about the infrastructure, sewage, power, repairs, maintenance. Thousands of workers scattered around, you know, working on stuff. You can't have an apartment building with working electricity and TV if technicians don't come around once in a while to lay new wires/fix old soviet shit that's falling apart. You need workers at the power sub-station and media broadcast centers. You need workers to maintain the power lines, you need workers to work on the power plant and power the outputs. And if a sector that, by plan consumes much more energy than it should, it's going to get investigated since it's a fascist regime and that is pretty fucking suspicious.

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>>388408107
COME THE FUCK ON

>>388423145
>Is not like they have teleportation technology or anything.

-Hey, we need to build this huge and heavy teleporter 100m from the main civil transport hub of the main city on the entire planet, how do we sneak in 5 tons of custom parts into there?
-Just teleport it!

damn the bong smoke is pretty thick in here

>>388423639
>computows

>>388423843
Man, imagine the vidya you can play in one of these Dyson spheres

>>388423990
>-Hey, we need to steal shit from Xen to make teleporters, how do we do it?
>-Just teleport it!

Could you build a miniature Dyson Sphere around something with a much smaller mass? Like maybe an anvil?

>>388424292
You could but I don't see why.

>>388424292
an anvil in space? i guess yeah. but why?
an anvil on earth? no

314 URB-LOC 0017 is scratched into advisor pods. Is that the number of this advisor or the number of earth?

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>>388408107

>tfw don't use Dyson Spheres but Dyson Cubes
>tfw can use them as lego bricks while spawning an insanely huge Minecraft world from all the energy
Heh, Combine are like ants to me, thank your lucky Dyson tm enclosed stars that I don't give a shit about the unenlightened

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>>388424292

>You will never play 2 spinoff episodes of Half Life 2
>You will never play as Alyx helping people escape the city on foot in a group-stealth genre spinoff
>You will never play as Adrian Shephard escorting Breen to safety during the 7-Hour war so he can contact and make arrangements with the combine

Would that plot have been the end of HL? It seems like he wrote himself into a corner because taking on a civilization with a Dyson Sphere would require a massive ass pull

So wait a Dyson Sphere is just like a giant capsule with the insides being all solar powers for basically limitless energy?

>>388425157
Pretty much. You build a building around the sun.

>>388422581
What game is this webm from?

>>388424572
Anvils are cool

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>That moment when you enter the Citadel's reactor in Episode 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3rNAXE3Scg

>>388425157
Yes.

>>388425074
Their teleportation tech is shoddy, while the Combine are huge they seem to rely on pirating technology from other planets, that is why you should install Denuvo into a teleporter and give it to them

>>388425282
>>388425413
I can't believe I never thought of that or even heard of it before

>information (how energy/matter is arranged) cannot be destroyed
>black holes swallow information along with the energy/matter encoding it
>black holes slowly evaporate emitting only "raw", infromationless energy, and simply cease to exist thus destroying all infromation they swallowed
>only solution is if the infromation of the swallowed energy/matter is imprinted on the 2d surface of the balck hole, which then gets imprinted on the emitted "raw" energy
>this means anything, be it 3D or more, can be accurately encoded in 2D. we call these holograms.

>halo is dead
>half life is dead
>mass effect is dead
Fuck this gay earth.
Tell me what upcoming space/scifi game to look up. Not just FPS/MMO in space but the whole scifi & lore package.

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>>388425386
DCS, specifically the Ka-50.

I'm about to start playing Half Life today, there aren't any compatibility mods necessary or anything, right?

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fresh dyson sphere OC coming through

>Brainlets build dyson spheres, we all know giant robots play football with them

>>388425706
Ignore every single post you are about to receive

>>388425818
kek

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>>388425647
>scifi & lore

EYE. It's goofy but there are a lot of very interesting lore to think about.

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Will it work?

>>388425706
Yes. Download the original WON version since steam release is fucked in many aspects. Same for HL2. Download the pre-orange box version since latest version is garbage with broken ligntning, animations, characters don't blink, jeep physics are worse, etc.

>>388407702
do you live in reverse world?

>>388425706
Play the genuine original version, not Half-Life Source, or Black Mesa.

>>388425928
It's clearly A.

>>388407949
yes i did fuck you

>>388425928
Why would you launch a giant fried egg into a tiny black hole?

>>388425857
Why?
>>388426089
I have the original version but it's on Steam, is what that other guy said right that I should get the original release instead?

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Wasn't there some news about a star that is theorized to have a Dyson sphere because it was unnaturally dim suddenly?

Seriously though I don not want to found by a civilization capable of building a dyson sphere.

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>>388425921
fukken love E.Y.E

>>388425928
yes

>>388425921
I'd love to see games set during all the archive history entries.

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>>388425928
>shooting fried eggs at black hole

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>>388421530

I feel your pain. Probably one of the only walking simulators I was kind of looking forward to.

>>388425630
>this means anything, be it 3D or more, can be accurately encoded in 2D.

Does that mean i can be with my waifu in real life?

>>388426287
Good to hear. Some nights I just like to lie in bed and think about the strange society of theirs. How there's this huge mall with artillery installed and when you find the exit door you discover it's in the middle of some sort of a radioactive desert that kills you immediately. Or why is there a literal graveyard on the top floor of a building in an industrial district. And how that guy says wtf are you doing around here, can't you see it's a fucking graveyard? Pretty unreal.

>>388425408
Why would they need a dyon sphere when they can harvest dark energy?

>>388426667
s*

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>on another world
>at the same time as us
>another species is fighting back against the combine
>but they wont be able to see the futality of their efforts
>they will fall like countless others before them
>being assimilated into the combine


F

>>388407202
where is the light on the left coming from if they're building a sphere around the star?

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>>388425928

>>388426825
its actually more like a swarm, but because there are so many its fine to conceptualize them as a solid sphere

>>388426667

Maybe they have a Dark Energy of the size of a star at the center or whatever. A single Dyson Sphere can support more population than all the habitable planets in our galaxy combined. If you have something that good, go nuts.

>>388426667
Maybe the Dyson Sphere was built before they were able to harvest Dark Energy.

>>388426219
you wont. Cosimc scale is so large you cant even comprehend it.

If we started now, with current tech, and started shitting out generation ships going as fast as our current fastest craft, it would take us 5 to 50 million years to colonize the ENTIRE galaxy. the dinosaurs died 65 million years ago. complex life only existed for a few hundred years on earth. So if we take from basicaly scrach: from first multi-celled organism to galaxy spanning empire, it would only take 6-700 million years. the entire universe is 13 billion years old, earth-like planets are possible since say 12 billion years. even taking the best case scenario numbers there would be ~18 different galactic empires who wouldnt even notice eachoters ancient origins.

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>Episode Afterthoughts: The map is not the territory. A sketch is only a starting point. Everything changes as you try to make it real...
>Everyone who works on it will have ideas, and new opportunities will appear and change everything...
>But even on a story level, you will find as you get closer that some things just won't work. Would Alyx really shoot and kill Judith Moss?...
>Is that too harsh? What if Alyx pushed Judith into a timeloop or portal bubble instead, leaving her fate open?...
>Is there a role in all this for the former security guard Barney? What about Dog?...
>What if the final explosion powers a huge timeloop singularity that puts Gordon back on the Black Mesa Research Facility Inbound Train...
>...and it all never happened?
>...or is about to happen again?
>Also, how do you tell it? Do you start on the Borealis and have physical timeloops that function as flashbacks? How would that work?
>Do you start with glimpses of a Combine interrogation cell? Do you hint the entire experience is provoked fantasy as a means of getting info?
>Or is a straightforward linear experience the most satisfying? It takes a team to work this stuff out. Vignettes are easy.
>And then what do you do if the brilliant actor who plays Wallace Breen...dies?

The question is if the physics of the combine universe are even the same as in our universe.

>>388418137
Issac Arthur is a 10/10 youtube channel about futurism.
His speech impediment is CUTE

>>388408201
Nice Halo ripoff

>>388427328
Where does he come from?
His accent sounds strange.

>>388408107
+1

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400? Fuck you! It should give me millions of energy credits per second and allow me to synthesize minerals at least. Give me a science victory at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC4IAH2TvWY

>>388422581
>Earth has technology that combine really want, but they didn't think it was a threat enough to leave any really powerful shit on it.
makes no sense

>>388427607
He's american, he just can't pronounce "R" well

>>388427607

Speech impediment. He apologies for it in almost every video.

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This is now a black goo thread

>>388427708
>Your apartment has everything that you have ever worked for in your life
>Police is not there 24/7 to monitor it because 99% chance nothing will happen, instead it has an alarm that call the police in case something happens

Thread Theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMJNta-okRw

Shouldn't there be some more efficient way to harvest energy from a star than building a fuck huge shell around it

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>>388427869
>kojima fag shilling his upcoming garbage here now since nobody cares about it anymore

>>388427975

Satellites instead of a shell.

>>388427913
... what?

>>388427913
>my apartment has super amazing technology the police want
>they send in a boyscout and contracted repo man

>>388410169
Is this a shoop

>>388425706
PS2 version of Half-Life 1 is easily the best version. It even supports Mouse+Keyboard

>>388407702
god shut the fuck up

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>>388407239
So let me get this straight, white people used grey goo to build a city that kills all non-whites on site. White people went extinct and now the city has consumed the entire solar system and what is left of humanity is fighting to survive the white supremacist robots who keep killing in the name of their long dead European masters?

>>388422683
I Always imagined it was a planet that had been hollowed / made into a sphere. Otherwise it doesnt fully make sense

>>388427525
Halo's based on Ringworld
>nice bait tho 10/10

>tfw no qt fem metrocop to fuck forever and nothing to worry about because of the suppression field

>>388427975
No because it's the only way to capture all the energy

>>388427256
Honestly the vast distances in space is both comforting and scary. You really feel insignificant when you think about it

>>388428050
They send a SWAT team, not a fucking army.

>>388407848
So that means this is off topic.
Not vidya related.
So piss off with this shit, just like the e-celeb threads.

>>388428245
The SWAT of a civilization with Dyson sphere should rape Earth in <1 hour.

>Red Mars
FRANK DID NOTHING WRONG

>>388418692
Pretty much this. Niven's a fucking hack.

>>388428385
Frank killed our blonde haired, blue eyed messiah right as our messiah was trying to rid Mars of Muslims. Frank is literally Satan.

>>388407949
Learned about them way back in 2000 with Freelancer.

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>>388426748
>futality
>>>>>>>>>/d/