Quake Champions

>LETS ADD CLASSES AND ABILITIES

dropperino

shit deserves to die

>>388405924
There's no classes, only active and passive abilities.

>>388405830

Are we really gonna have a player count stats thread on every PC game released? I get it that you guys hated battleborn but every multiplayer game after that has anons like you making defamatory threads.

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Thought it was going to be f2p.
Why do people making hero shooters after overwatch insist on taking money for their game if they want any chance of it becoming popular?

>dude lawbreakers lmao
>welp only 500 players
>the tf2 clone brink goes f2p right after
>2000 players out of nowhere

>>388405830
Thought this was going to be free2play.

Also it seems that it's early access. I'm good

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>2035 all-time peak
Quake Live's peak was three times that and it was only put on Steam once it was ded

They didnt have a Quake Live duel tournament at this years Quakecon because of Champions.

It doesnt look that bad, but ffs why couldnt they just let them play a Quake Live tournament as well - all the fucking players were there

>>388406021
oh sorry not classes, only heroes. which is the same and just as retarded

>>388405830
>Give characters different active and passive abilities
>All characters have different stats

This right here already killed the game.

Quake is suppose to be pure. Everyone has the same stats and the only thing that separate each other is the real player skills and map/item knowledge.

Abomination like Quake Champion should not be allowed to exist

>>388406295
>Early Access and beta
>Not much marketing campaign for now

/v/tards are living in their delusional world

>>388408718
>Quake 1 came out
>BOOO THIS IS NOT DOOM EVERYTHING LOOKS SO BROWN I'M GOING BACK TO DOOM
>Quake 2 came out
>BOOO THIS IS NOT QUAKE NO CTHULHU SHIT FLYING AND NO NAILGUN IM BACK TO Q1
>Quake 3 Arena came out
>BOOO THIS IS NOT QUAKE NO SINGLEPLAYER NO Q2DM1 BFG10K IS GLORIFIED RL IM GOING BACK
>Quake 4 came out
>BOOO THIS IS NOT QUAKE SOME CINEMATIC SHIT IN SP SQUAD DINGLING NEAR UR ASS WTF CROUCHSLIDING I AIN'T LEARNING THAT SHIT I'M GOING BACK TO Q3
>ETQW came out
>BOOOOO THIS IS NEITHER QUAKE OR ET NO FREEWARE IM GOING BACK
>QL came out
>BOOOO NO MODDING SHIT NO BLOOD IM GOING BACK
>QC coming out

and the story is getting full circle...

>>388405830
The early access on steam is not F2P for now, most people are playing for free using the bethesda launcher.

>>388405924
That's what will keep a game alive these days, why is it so hard to understand for some of you ?

Why would they make an oldschool arena FPS knowing that the vast majority of people that ask for them don't play any of them anyway and would not play QC.

Resident Evil Outbreak has like 10 players and it's the best online game ever what are implying here?

They need to bring back Return to Castle Wolfenstein and Enemy Territory multiplayer

DISARM ZE DYNAMITE

>>388408734
>not much marketing
>$1mil tournament going on
Bethesda drones and deadonarrivalchamps shills living in their delusional world

Most people not willing to drop 30 usd for an early access game that they can play for free just using Bethesda launcher, getting the champions pack as a requirement to play on Steam will only last until the game goes out of early access, after that the game will go fp2 which is when it's expect to have much better numbers on the steam version.

Also what kind of faggot would want to see a Quake game die when trash like PUBG dominates the market just because it has classes? Kill yourselves, you are the cancer of this industry, nitpicking maggots, the game is fun as fuck and actually requires and rewards indiviual player skill, thats all what should matter.

>>388409859
>$1M tournament designed for luring proplayers from diffrent games and doing soft-marketing
>nowhere to see ads so bethesda didn't put much cash in real marketing.

>>388405830
Gave it some time.
I had only Sarge, and i was set up against enemies with more health and armor and i kept fucking up expecting them to die in a quick 1v1 confrontation only to find out they have twice my health
I mean i come in with 125 combined health, and here comes some fucking fat ass hero with 350 fucking health tanking 2 rockets a rail to the face and not flinching while he blows me the fuck up in a second
I dont like it.

Also no dedicated servers, no special game mods, no fucking nothing.
I actually enjoyed Doom 4 multiplayer more, at lest all characters had the same fucking stats even if runes were a bit op.

>>388409859
>deadonarrivalchamps
Been playing all day and finding matches in fuckin 40 seconds.

>>388410179
There's 1500 players playing after the most hyped tournament. You're going to be in battleborn tier numbers soon. Just face it this game only appeals to people who stand to win money, desperate quakefags, or unaware newfags who're into heroshooters.

>>388410385
>Early Access on steam 30$
>F2P in Bethesda launcher
>stats gathered from steam client
>Players from both clients can compete

get out.

>Still being called an overmeme clone

First sign of people who haven't actually played it.

>>388405924
Yeah so the game has even less potential to sell because elitist quake fans are a yuuuuge market. Must suck living with severe brain damage.

>>388410464
>thinking people will grind champions instead of just purchasing the steam pack
>>388410549
>not an overmeme clone
>same 3 champion meta due to their ults/movement abilities
Rly makes me think!

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>>388405830
Why the fuck can't we just get a giant dungeon crawler like the first game?

it's literally not even quake, why would anyone play it

>>388410174
Are you trying to imply the fuck huge tank champions with more Hp are the ones that usually win? Because thats the opposite of what actuallly happens, mobility will always triumph, especially in a Quake game. There is no Sarge, but i think you are talking about Ranger, which has literally the same movement as Q3 had and can strafejump faster than it does in QL, you can fuck up any tank if you're familiar with all the movement options from older games that heavy classes simply aren't capable of.

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POST NYX

I didn't even know it was out, so better marketing would have helped.

>>388410723
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKJmlrhSr5U
FUCK NYX POST SORLAG!

>>388410385
>quakefags gets driven out because no purity and goes back to Quake Live
>newfags get driven out because they get stomped hard without mercy and goes back to whatever shitty game they played

Quake Champion will be DOA when officially launched

>>388410730
Because game is not out - it's in early access and not especially promoted

>>388410549
>It has abilities so its an overmeme clone!
It's just quake 3 with different stats and some abilities. If you know how to play 3 you will be good at QC by using the same weapons and movement you have been using for years, it still plays like an arena shooter. OW is not even a shooter that rewards your skill on the genre but is all about autistic team meta and ultimate spamming.

>>388410784

yiff in hell scalefag

>>388410702
>quake movement
>quake weapons
>quake maps
>not even quake

Fuck off, hipster shitter, don't talk for the quake fans that actually play and support the genre.

>>388410717
Maybe ranger, the only unlocked character i mean, those heroes are really fucking forgettable and generic.
I dont know who usually wins, but im not used to such discrepancies between classes as im mostly an old quake and cs player, i never got into over watch. Im used to the fact i can take on safely a respwaned character and win with superior aim and weapon choice, not that the fucker can shrug off anything i throw at him.
Also fucking invisibility Jesus Christ, is that crap still in the game? Triggered me hard as hell.

>>388410680
I actually saw all of them in pro play, yeah some are used more often but none is not used at all because of 3 pick duel system

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>>388410784
This, sorlag best Q3 skin and best QC champ.

>>388410975
>not quake abilities
>not quake passives
>not quake duel format
>not quake meta
>it's quake guys

Fuck off, bethdrone shill, don't talk for the quake fans that actually play and support the genre.

>>388411172
>still thinking Bethesda is developing it

I fucking dislike duel because the maps are too big for what is basically a 1v1 mode

And fucking Sacrifice mode
>Game is emphasize speed and movement
>have to stop and wait for a few seconds to steal soul from obelisk , literally becoming a sitting duck

What the fuck was Bethesda thinking?

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>>388405830
>>388405924
>>388406162
>>388408056
>>388408718
>>388410385
>>388410680
>muh Overwatch

Yeah I'm sure they screwed themselves with abilities. Now they will never get the 400 people who actually played Quake Live

>>388411026
I literally never saw scalebearer or clutch, or visor, or BJ. Whole game is Anarki, Nyx, Sorlag. Maybe Slash here and there. Not that it matters that much, Nu-Quake is all about your LG%.

>>388411026
visor, scalebearerm clutch all booted out during qualifier
galena only in specific map
it's sorlag champion.

>>388410650
When you are making game like Quake, you better bend over the only demographic that will actually buy your fucking game.

>>388411252
>still thinking that the publisher isn't the most interested party in shilling their game

>>388411264
Bethesda are publishers you dumbskull.

>>388411327
where were they when reflex happened then? :^)

>>388410074

It was literally the front page of Steam for a week
On top of the QUAKECON SALE which includes Bethesda games now to further shit on the spirit of the thing.

>>388411392
The what now?

>>388411302
>Quake Live peak 6,000 when already dead and buried
>Quake Champions peak 2,000 when at its most hyped point
Right now id should be desperate for those QL players, kek.

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isn't this shit free on the bethesda launcher? don't have to put money into it to play

>>388411172
>it's not a clone of the old games so it's not quake!
Movement, weapon and maps have always been the core of Quake games, that doesn't mean more features shouldn't be added. Why even make a new game if you are going to make just another clone, while the classics are still perfectly playable, are you retarded?

Also you don't support the genre at all, your dead copy pasted quake clones are pretty much irrelevant. All people like you is cry about how the genre is dead while not supporting any of the things that could keep it alive.

>>388411392
>clone of a really niche mod with 0 marketing
Wow why didn't it get popular haha arena shooter fags btfo!

>>388411310
Rail > LG

Also
>Nu-Quake is all about your LG%.
Welcome to quake since 3 Arena/Live.

>>388411480
They will never have that 6000 players unless they make QC pure

>>388411503
Aren't they putting out a 'classic' mode or some shit without the abilities? I swear I've seen that somewhere

>>388411493
You get all current and future characters, for free version only Ranger.

No quake doujinshu yet?

>>388411392
Reflex is trash, just an uninspired Quake 3 clone, even the most played maps are maps from Q3, what a disgrace, literally quake 3 for hipster contrarians who never became relevant in Quake 3 or live. So glad its back to its usual 40 players

>>388411493
Most people that played beta installed it with that bethesda launcher shit.

>>388405830

Literally only way for QC to live is to seriously promote community mappers, even if that means paying to include them in matchmaking.
We need a FUCK TON of maps, and maps specifically for a game mode.

Reminder that vanilla maps were almost never played bar Campgrounds and a few others - and even then pro versions were preferred. Live consists mostly of community maps included in the base game.

>>388411310
>Scalebearer is used for retarded mobility during active
>Clutch is used for retarded and unpredictible double-tap dodge
>BJ used for retarded output DPS with LG/MG
>Visor using wallhack asap to know where enemy spawned/moved after killed ur previous pick
>Galena picked for her retarded suprise trip mines
>Sorlag picked for her AoD with her acid
>Anarki and Ranger picked for retarded mobility
>Nyx is only real bullshit here with her inviolability
>Slash picked for mobility and chase denial

I saw them all during qualifiers/tournament

>>388411669
Thats sounds more like just marketing to be honest. I don't think they do, and honestly it doesn't bother me, if i wanted to play 3 arena i would be playing that or Live.

>>388411597
>Rail > LG
Someone hasn't seen Quakecon.
>Welcome to quake since 3 Arena/Live.
Yeah, nah. To succeed in 3/Live you needed the perfect mastery of every skill to succeed. In QC you go forward with superior LG and win. Which is why random newfags like Raisy can dominate well rounded players like Rapha.

>>388411503
>it's added new features so it must still play as well!!
They removed everything that made Quake interesting. Metagame is completely different, inferior, boring. Final looked like a 1300 elo duel match.

Also you don't support the genre at all, your new heroshooter game is pretty much irrelevant. All people like you is cry about how the genre is dead while support games that aren't like it at all.

>>388411480
>>388411627
>game that was released when finished and established had more players than an early access game

woahh...

Face it. You guys are just posers. You have your 'pure' Quake game and none of you actually play it

>>388411327
>only demographic that will actually buy your fucking game
20 people isn't worth making a game for anon.

>>388411779
>this is used for x and y but they're never used in actual games haha
Very solid argument, 10/10!

>>388411368
It is but they have no input in developing the game aside of money shoved into id

>19 year old wins championship

LMAO your genre is so fucking dead even kids can win it

>>388412029
Oh I'm sorry should I give you all the clips of all matches where are all champions included? It's not worth my time. Neither you will watch it.

What the fuck is this "Tri-bolt" shit?
What fucking previous Quake game had this weapon again?
Where the fuck is the iconic grenade launcher you were teasing?

Did NuID seriously think a second example of their extremely shit projectile netcode that also shoots in a straight line is worth it over the possible embarrassment of fucking up an arcing projectile weapon?

>>388411954
>game that was already dead for many years had more players than game that is new, shilled everywhere to new players, and has a massive tournament going on

woahh... Face it. You're just desperate to pretend that you're morally superior to those silly old quakefags who enjoyed previous games while thinking your shit game is the saviour of the genre.

>>388412067
Clawz is actually a very good player, he was great in QL too. But in no fucking way is he "top, top", it highlights the problems with QC. You shoot better %, you win. Boring.

PC gaming is dead

>>388412227
Plenty of old Quakefags who aren't bitter cunts are enjoying the new one actually. Your argument is pointless because there is no actual way of pleasing you

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>>388412227
Go on... there is game just for you, just don't bother us with ur shit.

>>388412351
It's been dead for ages now, you guys let MOBAs take over.

>>388412168
I'm not interested in your clips from qualifiers weeks ago when meta was different. Open your eyes, there's three champions used at Qcon.

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>>388405830
>Some months ago during beta
>Have some fun for a couple of days
>Say to /v/ is ok
>However predict it will go the way of other twitch arena shooters since the genre is no longer popular
>"THEN GO PLAY OVERWATCH RETARD WE DONT NEED MILLENIALS LIKE YOU!"
>today 2000 active players


Feels nice to feel smug

>>388412382
Why would I play a CPM based game if I was never interested in CPM? Sick logic.
>>388412380
Nah, my argument is pretty solid. Silly people think adding heroshooter elements to the game will save it, but playercount still ded, deader than ever before. Get over it, QC hasn't saved shit.

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>>388412067
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Av3k

>>388412382
>tfw one of the few players who occasionally plays Reflex while playing QC
Why can't you faggots enjoy the already existing multitude of Arena shooters we have be it UT, VQ3/CPMA-derivatives or QC? The genre is already stratified as it is.

>>388412293
How is this a problem in an fps game?

>>388406052
thats because /v/ doesnt like video games they just like seeing games fail

>>388412412
Yea true
And crates, like we're playing phone games
The golden age of PC has long passed, now everyone on PC sits on a discord and only buys games that their discord online friends shill to them so they can play together
Shit sucks, blizzard and valve, the biggest PC devs have stopped making any singleplayer games now it's all MP or nothing

>>388412606

Those are different. Arenashooterfags can't handle anything that's in any way shape or form different from the handful of games they played in the early 2000s, they won't even accept a slight graphical upgrade.

>>388411061
Most of the base skins are pretty ugly.
but some custom ones are really good.

>>388411947
>To succeed in 3/Live you needed the perfect mastery of every skill to succeed.
Which is why people can pretty much only pick the same 3 weapons and always win? Lg got nerfed in QL for a reason, LG whoring has always dominated in high tier level, the nerf balanced things a bit, but QC has the same damage it did on 3, so hopefuly it willl get some nerfin as well.

>They removed everything that made Quake interesting.
No other game series features Quake movement like strafe or circlejump, quake maps or quake weapons, that's always been what makes quake interesting, if a bit of metagame really ruins all of that for you, thats your own biased point of view and i can pretty much assure you, you are the minority and there is nothing stopping you from playing the classic games instead, those are perfectly playable, and i know this as someone who still plays Live regularly and 3 once in a while.

>All people like you is cry about how the genre is dead while support games that aren't like it at all.
But i'm not crying at all, i enjoy QC and when i want to play classic i'm in Live, there is no real excuse for people not to play Arena shooters but only petty nitpicking.

>>388405830
ive been playing every day for 4 months
we went from 10 minute queue times to 1
theres a shit ton of people playing it through the beth launcher (all beta players get f2p access)
im sorry if your too young to appreciate quake but it isnt going anywhere

There will probably be more players once it's F2P and everyone on Steam can get it.

>>388409921
I don't want to see it die just because it has classes but I don't really like that decision. It's not like picking the right class is the only thing that matters but it's going to cause unbalances within the game which I don't like.

I mostly stopped playing games with classes a while ago because of that, there are ALWAYS balance issues. I've never really played a game that didn't have classes still being changed years later because they weren't balanced, and to me, being at a disadvantage because you didn't have the right class isn't fun. It's a rock-paper-scissors mechanic which is shallow.

>>388411392
>no one cares about CPMA
>make a CPMA clone that looks worse than original since there are no textures
>"lol why no one plays this game"

There hasn't been a single Q3 clone since QL which is why all these other games like Warsow and Toxikk are dead.
vq3 movement is just so much better than UT's or CPM.

>>388406241
it will be after EA
its free right now fow beta testers through the beth launcher

Unreal was always better

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>>388412792
Yeah.

>>388407998
didnt they though, i was watching a q2 touney 2 days ago and i know the had a shit ton of other touneys?

>>388411302
This pic is pretty true, picks have so little in comparison to Overwatch. Your not locked into specific weapons and player skill is still by far the deciding factor in winning.

>>388411779
>Doomguy has double jump as his passive and his active ability is used for retarded mobility and instant kill low health enemies with a punch

>>388412675
First of all because it's a complete antithesis of previous quake games which required you to master a whole bunch of skillsets to be the best. In those games, good aim was just an advantage rather than a guaranteed win in a fight.

But mostly it's because it's boring as a concept. If player A shoots better shaft than player B, then there's virtually no point in even watching this match since you already know the outcome.

>>388412840

>No other game series features Quake movement
Literally absolutely wrong, since everything is based on Quake's engine one way or another.

The things that made Quake fun was: Modding and mapping.

>>388408056
how so you already haave a classic quake game (ql). why the fuck would they make another q3 clone? you have to be retarded to think they would do that

>>388412983
doomguy was banned in quakecon

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So there are probably two worries that you guys have and hopefully I can put you at ease.
First being the powers. Powers are basically a tiny additional power that you can use, but they're not ultimates on Overwatch where you'd have to be an idiot to not kill the entire team. It can be hard even getting one kill with these powers. Skill still reigns king in this game. You'll still get fragged if you're a fucking idiot.
>1200 people
That's just the retards that bought it on Steam for full price in beta. The majority of people are playing it free through the Bethesda launcher. I've played it 5 hours and not had a single issue finding a match. Takes seconds.

The only issues this game has atm is the UI is garbage. Truly garbage doing anything. And I hear multiple people have network issues.

t. got the game free on steam from a friend

>>388405830
considering they haven't started advertising the game yet and all the beta players get f2p access through the bethesda launcher id say thats pretty fucking good

>>388408718
In that case it is a game that literally did not need to be made, it is already perfect by design. Just leave the franchise to die, it's a relic of the past and any one who wants to play it just plays quake live.

>>388409283
>That's what will keep a game alive these days
Except Overwatch is dying all all the chinese knockoffs are DOA.

>>388413035

In case you're not retarded and just ignorant, QL was ruined by NuID with dumb decisions like adding a HMG for no good reason when chaingun exists and it's effectively just another LG situation.
Also while Steam Workshop integration is good, there's no support for custom gametypes and the server browser is a complete joke, least of all there being no integrated notification/steam group/chat feature for pickups and such.

>>388406162
it is f2p, the steam is people who bought all the hero's whilst people using the bethesda launcher play free

>>388413071
People pay for the EA because they can get all the champions immediately and all future champs when released instead of renting champs for 24 hours when you just play them for free?

>>388413071

Question: Why the fuck would anyone want to play with the beth launcher?
It's so bad, I literally can't install Quake, just to login, just to link to Steam, just to never use the launcher ever again, because it runs at like 1FPS and nothing will fix this. It is beyond broken, and I know it used to work fine before to boot.

>>388413034
What other game has circle jump and strafejump? literally no other game has the same physics, even if other games are based on the same engine, in other games things like strafejump which were actually a glitch got fixed, in quake those were left there because they are actually fun as fuck.

>The things that made Quake fun was: Modding and mapping.
Those were always the extras, if the game isn't great alone, no matter how much mods it has, it will be always mediocre, quake was great because it's mechanics, gunplay and level design, any game can have modding.

>>388409094
notice how nobody can argue against the one true post in the thread

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I SAID

>>388411446
yes thats the quake con sale they have every year, nothing new here

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>>388413323
SORLAG

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>>388410723

>>388405830
>All the characters require absurd amounts of grinding to get or you have to spend money
>on a game that you already have to buy

I played the beta. I knew from that alone to avoid the game.

>>388413271

Except for the bit where QW was only alive because of custom mods and maps, ranging from just a single grappling hook to Team fucking Fortress.

Quake was always just a foundation, for better and worse.

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>>388413271
>if the game isn't great alone, no matter how much mods it has, it will be always mediocre

what did he mean by this?

>>388412840
>Which is why people can pretty much only pick the same 3 weapons and always win? Lg got nerfed in QL for a reason, LG whoring has always dominated in high tier level, the nerf balanced things a bit, but QC has the same damage it did on 3, so hopefuly it willl get some nerfin as well.
This is a complete non-argument. The fact that there's a trio of best weapons doesn't prove the idea that you need to master all skillsets wrong. In Q3/Live you need perfect timing, perfect positioning, planning ahead 2-3 minutes at a time, good item rotation, area denial, perfect weapon choices, and on and on. You still need this in QC but it's become less and less relevant, you can brute force your way through with good aim as we have already seen this QCon. The reason why LG got nerfed in QL was because the initial damage value was intended for high ping games over the internets. Once we had the hardware to hit better it was rightfully nerfed, not that it was ever the sole decider in games ever.

>No other game series features Quake movement like strafe or circlejump, quake maps or quake weapons, that's always been what makes quake interesting, if a bit of metagame really ruins all of that for you, thats your own biased point of view and i can pretty much assure you, you are the minority and there is nothing stopping you from playing the classic games instead, those are perfectly playable, and i know this as someone who still plays Live regularly and 3 once in a while.
Movement is actually not bad in this game, apart from caps. Maps are total trash, they look like they've been designed for Unreal Tournament. Even classic ones have been made so open, strange layout decisions.

>>388413430
I WANT HER TO SPIT ACID ON MY DIC

>>388411172
none of the quake games are the same you fucking dip.
Q3 doesn't have q2 grapple hook
>NOT MUH QUAKE

>>388413439
>Quake was always just a foundation, for better and worse.
A great foundation, which allowed great mods to exist. No bad game becomes good because modding, Unreal Tournament, Doom, Half-life and quake, all had great modding communities because those were all solid base games.

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>>388413431
>the smile at the end

>>388411669
they are people just like to bitch

>>388413502
Exactly what you think i do, Skyrim will always be trash, no matter how many mods people clutter into it.

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>>388413578

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>>388413323
what an ugly and generic character design, fuck
this should have been the base skin

Since i guess hunter, lucy and slash from quake 3 are too offensive today

>>388413283
It's because it's true. Players either stopped playing completely or went back to old games, hence the dropping amount of players per each game released :^)

>>388411597
>Welcome to quake since 3 Arena/Live.

LG had much shorter range in Quake 3 than in Quakelive and q3tourney4 that doesnt have lg was one of the most popular maps. If I remember correctly lg was added to q3dm6 because of pros crying for it.
On quakelive if you callvote for q3dm17 or q3tourney4 kids these days call you a troll and refuse to play anything without LG.

>>388413846
I think every game just found it's community and the oldfags still whining to this day.

Like now.

>>388412538
>deader than before
its growing every day

>>388413970
By 10 players per day?

>>388409094
>ETQW
fuck me forgot that failure even existed in first place

>>388413936
And LG had less ammo and lower dps in Quake 3

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>>388413970
>arena shooter with heroes
>"I am growing stronger"

>>388414038
It's basically got the opposite trend of something like Lawbreakers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hgj5WLAEEU&feature=youtu.be

>>388413936

And now we get DOUBLE LG maps
Sometimes TRIPLE!
Fucking enjoy, you little shits. Make a map specifically for a game mode? Why the fuck is that even a thing? Too expensive, just change server cvars.
t. Bethesda (and their half digested lump that is ID)

>>388413262
>free

>>388414151

>link with Steam account

I love the game. Yall need to git gud

I'm waiting for netcode fixes. Everyone I know who's interested in it/owns it says "it'd be fine if shit wasn't ridiculous on the back end side".

>>388414282
Dismissing criticism of a game by saying the criticizer is just bad is actually a really bad thing for video games in the long run. Please stop doing that.

>>388414124
i kek'd at that more than i should have

>>388412213

The tribolt is unironically a "I want to get killed" weapon"

>>388409094
nobody to respond to this kek

>>388414282
t. 900 elo player.

>>388414354
i dunno man i'm not him but he probably is just bad. i've locked an easy 300 hours since the beta started and i'm still having a blast curb stomping millenials

>>388405924
Seriously.

Who the fuck wants a Quake game with heroes?

>>388414354
But im right.

>>388413541
>you need perfect timing, perfect positioning, planning ahead 2-3 minutes at a time, good item rotation, area denial, perfect weapon choices, and on and on.
>You still need this in QC but it's become less and less relevant
Fair enough, but there is a difference from being less relevant to just claiming it's some OW clone like some people think it is, and even if it's less relevant it's still miles ahead of what most modern shooters require you to do and the things you named all take years of practice to master, even in QC.

>Maps are total trash, they look like they've been designed for Unreal Tournament. Even classic ones have been made so open, strange layout decisions.
Not getting into detail into this, maps really are something i've always find people to have different opinions and what makes it trash or good, but all i can say is that i find them actually enjoyable since them try to follow the basics of arena shooters and feature enough vertical gameplay, but still i hope we see more classic maps in the future.

>>388414526
No one, but champions still manages to be fun.

Honestly i dont see what there is to hate here. The powers dont do much.

>>388414526
me and the rest of the people playing it daily
(more people playing than all the other arena shooters combined btw)

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Tell me what the PC FPS community was like before Quake 4 and UT3?

I love FPS but I didn't build a PC until around 2011 and missed the glory days, every FPS out now has discernable cracks that prevent them from being great games and are instead just good at best. Titanfall 2 with its reduced TTK of the first and overpowered SMGs, Siege with its awful connection problems, Overwatch is self explanatory, etc.

>>388411669
They're gonna fuck it up by making it a literal "no abilities" mode, ignoring things that one character has which everyone should

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>>388410723

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>>388410723

>>388411327
So much confidence
So little reasoning

>>388414681
>Regenerating health
>realism being the standard
>no boss fights
>no varied level designs
>no variation with foes
>forced Tom Clancy-but-worse plots in damn near all of them
>muh brown n bloom

>>388411302
>400 people
2 million people own it on Steam, actually. And I'm sure the majority of that is people getting it for free because they already owned QL

>>388414681
it was just arguing on which is better, ut or quake 3
and before that everybody just played quake 3 demo, like every fucking body

both were really huge for the time, that and cs just dominated the entire genre with no competition

>>388405924

Classes or not, it would still be dead on release. Arena games are dead.

>>388414526
>team fortress 1

>>388414494
>the game is good because its easy

>>388415053
QL is the most unappreciated Steam game. It has fucking everything, community maps, custom servers, custom scripts, custom models are possible, mod for gibs and gore, voice chat, the game having such a low playerbase just makes me wonder what would take for an arena shooter to be succesful today?

>>388408718
You don't play Quake

>>388415293
smart budgeting, smart marketing and low sales expectation

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>>388413430
POST MORE SORLAG GET OUT NYX WAIFU JERKS!

>>388415293

Not shit server browser
Integrated chat channels
Steam group integration to enable announcements

CA took over, Duel is a complete mess, no way to pick through the garbage servers.

>>388415261
>easy
Without counting older entries, which i doubt you are a pro from, It's still the most demanding fps out there. Literally only 1 of 1000 players will ever make it as a pro.

>>388415293
Simple
1. Money
2. Fun modes for new players
3. Better graphics while retaining visibility

>>388413846
so what are you suggesting? that people shouldnt keep making arena shooters, or that everything should just stay like doom so communities don't split
if anything QC is the first game thats bringing all those players back together, just look at quakecon you have cpma / q1 pros, q4 pros going up against the ql q3 guys. its actually very interesting to watch

>>388414840
mommy

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>>388415367
This.

>>388415543
$$$ is bringing those players together, how naive are you?

>>388415543

QC is mostly a uniting force because like PUBG, there's literally nothing.
Every company is just fucking up simultaneously, QC hasn't gratuitously fucked up yet.

Epic basically won't give up the IPs to e.g. UT but don't feel like making anything either for example.

>>388409094
The actual truth

>>388415675
UT4 will come out...eventually.

>>388409094
this

>>388415746
kek

>>388415746
lol.

Post Sorlag feet

>>388415675
Well I don't blame them, there's no money to be made in UT4. It's the same with Quake. Investing in these games is a big risk because they no longer have appeal to the general market. Bethesda is probably going to end up being pissed at investing this much in QC only to get this tiny playerbase/twitch viewership.

>>388415293
I have no idea. PWND has a video with millions of views on Youtube, but only a few thousand sales. It doesn't help that it has that dumb gimmick and more hero shit

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>>388415746
At least its not HL3.

>>388415746
>eventually
By 2341, just like the original in game date? IRL UT confirmed.

>>388405830
20k sales is more than enough if they like the game, it's giong to make its money from cosmetic sales.

Yes, this is a lot of money.

>>388409094
so true it hurts

if these fags would just give Champions a chance they'd probably like it. The stats don't really matter that much.

>>388415883
>It doesn't help that it has that dumb gimmick and more hero shit
Quake Live is a pure arena shooter.

>>388415746
>Sitting in development hell as open beta since 2014

>>388415293
>makes me wonder what would take for an arena shooter to be succesful today?

For the modern vidya player to stop being a shitter

>>388415983
I have a lot of hours in it, and I despise it with a passion. But still play it because it's the only game that doesn't require me to go on irc/discord to get a game. This won't be for long tho, hype is gonna wear off real quick. Guess I'll have to play PUBG. Sad, sad times.

>>388415991
The community would have already completed the game if Epic actually cared to listen to them

>>388416085
Assuming 99 and 2k4 fags could agree on anything, you'd still just end up with a good finished game with 0 exposure.

>>388416068
It doesn't take a genius to get the basics of Quake

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>>388415293
If you want a modern arena shooter to be successful you need to do what Tribes Ascend did before the devs suicided it

>design game so good and bad players can coexist
>there were still roles for shit players to feel useful, not everyone had to be superfast star capper
>these roles didn't impinge too much on the skill ceiling of people who were actually good
>bad players can actually have fun going fast and zooming around the maps getting in floaty fights, they don't just get instantly shat on until they leave

>>388416236
But it takes time to polish your basics in order to not get shit on by players with 15 years of experience. Only way these games can survive is if they offer an even playing field to newcomers through matchmaking.

>>388405830
of course
early access with no server browser or any balanced matchmaking?
new players are just going to quit after being crushed by vets over and over
matchmaking is cancer

>>388410685
Should I get the gog version? Never played it before.

>>388416375
/vr/'s Doom thread has a pastebin with it for free

>>388415746
Wew.

>>388416259
Yep, pretty much what you said + modernized features.

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>>388416081

>I have a lot of hours in it but despise it with a passion
>Guess I'll have to play PUBG
>gives no reason why they hate it, just shills another game
what sort of idiot are you? Either shill or just fucking stupid.

>>388416259
why the hell did HiRez bomb Tribes Ascend?
That game was legit fun

>>388416568
Greed

>>388416568
money

>>388416568
They said they didn't know what they were doing a.k.a monies 1st

Now they are cashing on smite and paladins

>>388406052

/v/ is full of children who only buy games their favorite streamers play.

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>>388416847

>>388411172
>i support arena fps by shitposting on the internet instead of buying a new, actually decent quake game
Seriously, fuck you people with every dick from every single concievable angle. You're the fucking reason this genre is dead.

>>388405830
>>>>>>>>>>>>>NO MODS
FUCK OFF BETHESD""""""ID"""""

>>388416259
actually after 10h or so I could have sth like 400u/speed and grabbing flag like insane

>them fcking technicians(?) and their fcking turrets

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This image is relevant once again.

It's a good game, pretty well optimized too for being in early access. I think it might still be too hardcore for casuals though, which is why it won't be a gigantic success.

lmao its garbage Im going back to overwatch

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Did they ever add player owned servers?

Because if they haven't I'm still not interested. Waiting 5 minutes between matches because you have to go to the fucking main menu every time is ridiculous.

>>388417431
People still play OW? Or just care about the autistic waifus?

So is the game shit or fun?
I used to play old Quake Live.

>>388417534
no mods and no player owned servers.
NOW BUY LOOT BOXES GOY

>>388417261
Saving it.

>>388417534
>5 minutes
queue times improved to sth like 30sec-1m

I'll play it when it's free, no reason to waste money on this if I can wait.

>>388417818
Doesn't change a damn thing. When they're not going to give the players the single most useful tool they could have, a tool that would take no effort to implement. All because it would shine a light on how absolutely low value modern multiplayer business models are to the players.

I'm perfectly content with playing single player games for the rest of my life.

>>388417659
its fun as shit

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>>388417570
Even Paladins has better waifus than OW

>>388418541
Actually paladins is pretty much OW for free. Just a little more skill required than OW.

>>388415367
>Polecon

kek, was that a thing?

>>388405924
You didn't like Team Fortress?

>>388416375
Go for it. Also gt Darkplaces for graphix.

>>388419386
>>388416375
And for easy-to-use graphix enhancer look for 'epsilon' mod on moddb - got all shit prepared for better visuals

>>388416375
Pic you are seeing is Arcane Dimensions. I recommend Quakespasm for it. Darkplaces breaks at places

Have they added orbb yet or are they still retarded?

>>388405830
I legit didn't even know this released
Is it free to play?

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>>388420385
Likely planned to be added

>>388420583
it will be its 30$ early access on steam right now
beta testers get the f2p version right now with the bethesda launcher

>>388420781
I'll just do what literally everyone else should do
Wait until I don't have to buy it

>>388420734
>commander keen
mother of god

>>388420734
>Crash
>Orbb
>Commander Keen
NOW JUST MAKE A PLAYABLE REVENANT
DO IT FAGGOTS

>>388420734
>Commander Keen
Whoa there.

>>388420857
>>388420920
>>388421009
>he's just a lifeless corpse hung with a noose

>>388420734
>commanderkeen
WEW LAD

>>388407998
>why couldnt they just let them play a Quake Live tournament as well
Because the goal of this year's quakecon was to shill champions. Hence the 19 year old being the duel champion, and him acting like a cunt onstage so that there's a storyline to follow already.

>>388413271
>What other game has circle jump and strafejump?
Call of Duty

>>388421586
>rambling about 19y old being winning QWC
>Av3k literally raping everyone at Quake 4 decade earlier while being 16y old

do some research faggot

They have different max hp/armor and speed.

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>>388414123
>arena shooter with heroes
>"Updated my journal"

>Go to install QC to link to Steam from the Beth launcher
>Turns out you can only link the reverse after buying from Steam
>Oh there's a tutorial that gives rewards, k I'll just speedrun it
>Introduced to the tribolt
Oh jesus fuck it's mediocre and then triple the reason why the RL is shit; the fucking busted netcode.
"Gee I fucking wonder why we get so few viewers" - ID

>>388405830
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C11pZAXtO3o
At least it has music in the spirit of good'ol Quake

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>arena shooter with heroes
>"This one's gonna be EPIC!"

Why does everyone keep saying that this is F2P through the bethesda launcher right now? It doesn't seem to be unless you got into beta

>>388423756
>It doesn't seem to be unless you got into beta
Yes, only those who have been in the beta can continue to play for free. It's too late now, but the closed beta was actually an open beta sicne they gave out keys to anyone who registered.

They should have made it easily moddable and have game play of quake3 and proper duel mode. After that they could have added those shitty class based team modes.

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Meanwhile PUBG has 800k+ players. Both early access games btw.

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>it's another "/v/ larping as trv arenafags while maining mercy in overwatch" episode

>>388424061
the current generation of 12 year olds cannot handle arena shooters

>>388424061
PUBG is shilled literally everywhere.
Q:C has basically no marketing yet.
But it's just out of closed beta anyway.
And the netcode is totally shit.

>>388424094
People want arena shooter that are alive. It's pretty boring when there's only 3 ffa server on quake live with players and they are always the same players. It's unlikely that people are suddenly finding the older arena shooters like warsow so we need "new arena shooter" to have change at having game with decent playerbase.

>>388424195
>muh netcode
retard
the rocket bug is just a bug (which only happens like 1% of the time) they'll fix eventually

>>388424427
t. bethdrone

>>388411954
i put around 800 hours into quake live. its the perfect version of quake.

>>388424427
I can't hit any rails, it's obviously broken.

>>388424427

>Go to tutorial
>Singleplayer session just for myself
>Extremely noticeable half second delay before either TB or RL leaves the barrel

You're full of shit mate.
Not to mention it was extremely obvious in the tourney with overcompensation as well as
>this game is unplaeyable

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>>388405830
>/v/ said this would kill Overwatch

Oh am I laughing.

>>388424617
Same here.
I have 0.5 kdr, there's definitely something wrong with this shitty game.

>>388405830
classic deathmatch and classic capture flag and I will buy it

>>388424839
no you won't

>>388423596
Are you quoting yourself?

>>388424763
>Extremely noticeable half second delay before either TB or RL leaves the barrel
Except that this just can't happen since the visuals are client side.

>>388424975

So what is it, projectiles are client side or server side?
And why is is still nearly 500ms of delay?

>>388424912
yes I will I just want the option to play with out abilities thats all I need

>>388425131
buy quake live then, or reflex

>>388410385
>>388410179
Its F2P on Bethesda launcher. The numbers are nearly 10k for Beth Launcher players. Tbh, that sounds pretty good for a game that's not going to be released for a few months

>>388424839
deathmach is there already, CTF is planned and, at best, is replacing sacrifice.

>>388405830

>Need to buy the whole game to play custom games
Hol the fuck up, nobody said shit about this.

>>388425176
>buy quake live or reflex
reflex is dead though.

>>388425291
>we're just gonna let you use our dedicated servers for free
said no one ever

>>388425112
What is it what? It's just like any other game, only what matters is synched with the server, like actual damage.
There's no lag when you fire, it's all your misinfo.

The issue is with rockets when they sometimes (maybe 1~5% of the time) don't register even if you see them clearly hit the target.

i never played the older quakes, but did the have champions in them? it doesnt feel right in qc for there to be so many vapid characters.

>>388425176

Buying games doesn't fix shit, you need a position in media and marketing to get a community gathered for actually playing games.

>>388425375

>Could have just bought a skin
>Would have paid for everything in advance
>Player hosted servers
>NUH UH FUCK YOU PAY THE TOLL

I don't give a shit about any new champions or "official" maps I want what people who actually play this game giving me shit, and they'll do it for free.

>>388405830
Its not competitive when you have spells and shiez.
Made me lose interest as soon as I heard that. I never was too much of a quake fan, but I've played it back in the popular days. Would have liked to try it again if it wasnt another boring clusterfuck shooter.

could have just played quake live, it needs more players

>>388425403

>It's all your misinfo
And the fact it's true, happened just now, happened months ago, and happened on livestream for the whole world to see, along with pro testimonial and literally everyone complaining about it.
There is a shit ton of lag when you fire, period.

>>388405830
I had fun for a few weeks during beta
But not enough fun. Everyone playing sucked ass and I was tired of PUBstomping. I didn't even realize it was released

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>>388405830
Post yfw you didn't fall for Todd's lies.

>>388425646
Get into a jewtube discord for duel or some shit.

>>388424778

Overwatch is a garbage quarantine to distract kids and casuals.

>>388425753
No thanks, discord is for fags only

Isn't 2000 already too good for Quake standards?

>>388413224
It costs 30€.

>>388425424
they had different characters, so yes
just without the abilities

>>388405830
>First quake not running on idtech because a bunch of underpayed chick made this game

>>388425952
it doesn't, they're just selling all champions on Steam.
You can play the game for free with bethesda launcher but you don't get all champs
I would know since I haven't bought it but I can still play

>>388416236
It requires more time than Johnny Casual actually has
>"I only have time for one level before I have to get ready for bed to get enough sleep for work"
This kind of player dominates the industry so publishers are inclined to give them a short-lived, pretty power fantasy that they don't actually have to work for anymore. If players expressed a desire to play games that require them to git gud, publishers would comply. It's why Unreal Tournament 2004 was a best seller back in 2004 and why Unreal has been a dead franchise since

>>388425607
>And the fact it's true
k

>>388424061
>pubg
>a fucking early access survival sandbox shooter thing, probably with crafting has almost million players
I want 12yos and normalfags stop ruining my recreation methods.

>>388426226
Way to show that you don't know anything about PUBG.

>>388426338
He's right about the target audience though

>>388417261
>HUH

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>>388425424
No, but different characters have different movement styles from different versions of quake.

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Does it have skill based matchmaking?

If it does I'm not buying it, I want to join and leave games as I wish and if I'm good I want to mop the floor with everyone occasionally fighting an equally skilled opponent.

Nothing in gaming is worse than the matchmaking trend.

>>388426610
Nothing is more boring match that ends like 20 - 0, were you winning or losing.

>>388426102
Its also first Id game made without Carmack.

>>388426727
Yeah for duels, I'm talking those multi player fuckfest free for alls where everyone's dying all the time

>>388426610
it has matchmaking, but it doesn't penalize you for leaving (far as I know anyway), I've gotten matched up with way better and way worse players than my own skill level so it either doesn't work that well or it's intended

most skilled players are going to make smurf accounts anyway

>make Quake game
>but make it as unappealing as possible to the actual fanbase
>pander to Overmeme faggots instead who don't give a shit whatsoever because Overmeme faggots are obviously too busy playing Overmeme

Its not because of the classes its because Quake at core is not very good. Its bland and boring and outclassed

>>388427034
see >>388424094

>>388427034
It actually full of fanservice like original skins from Doom 1, Quake 1 and 3.

>>388426149
thats only for people who were in the beta you dunce

>>388427154
Eh, fuck Bethesda then.

>>388427227
There will be free mode at release.

>>388427154
You're right, I just checked that you gotta buy it during the EA period
Will be free after that apparently

>>388427227
I don't see why that's a bad thing, f2p is cancer and we've seen what it does to games.

But I bet it'll go f2p anyway.

>>388427034
I actually really like the tone and feel of the game. It has a bit more of that lovecraftian feel of Q1 mixed with Q2/3/4's scifi stuff. I would probably buy the early access jewery just to get it on Steam if the server condition wasn't so fucking rubbish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_1XlWSe6AE

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>Doomguy is in QC now
>The character who has always been a ridiculously OP merciless unstoppable force throughout his series is now just another character you'll be killing multiple versions of in every match
really triggers my autism

>>388427504
the ost is made by a former nin member btw

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>>388427660
What else would you expect if you had different unstoppable forces from different universes fighting each other?

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>>388427660
Am I being baited?

https://clyp.it/fgajeyq1

>>388427660
He had been worse in WAD's.

>>388409094
Screencap this. Objectively true.

>>388413035
>how so you already haave a classic dota game (dota). why the fuck would they make another dota clone? you have to be retarded to think they would do that
>how so you already haave a classic cs game (1.6). why the fuck would they make another cs clone? you have to be retarded to think they would do that
>how so you already haave a classic diablo game (diablo). why the fuck would they make another diablo clone? you have to be retarded to think they would do that


xDDDD

>>388427104
>TotalAsscancer
>''BUT WHERE WERE YOU ARENABROS FOR ALL THOSE ARENASHOOTERS?''

There were none.
Toxicc?
A giant lie with the game pretending to be faithful to the original arena shooters. The devs also harassed people who tired to contribute to it with legitimate critisism.

Reflex?
Microtransactions nobody wants.
Shitloads of broken promises.
More Overwatch than Arena Shooter.

UT4Alpha?
It's a fucking alpha.

Warsow?
Might as well name Nexuis.

Quake Live?
What about we take Quake 3 - Close it off instead of keeping it open for the community to contribute and also add loadouts because 'everyone does it'

Xonotic?
Again: Nexuis.


THERE WAS NOT A SINGLE ARENA STYLE SHOOTER IN THE LAST 7 YEARS THAT DIDN'T HAVE BULLSHIT IN IT OR ON ITS PACKAGE:

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>>388427360
Next year when everyone has forgotten about it. It probably had its max amount of hype when they had beta in the spring.

Why do companies do this? Just finish the fucking game, pick a fucking day, do your advertising, and release it that fucking day.

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>>388427957
forgot image

>>388406295
It's easy to laugh and point out flaws, but why don't you try and make your own game? O yea thats right you can't, and if you did you'd have probably 100 sales over 2 years.

>Tribes Ascend dead
>Unreal Tournament dead

>Hey guys let's revive Quake

This delayed TES VI by an extra year.

>>388428089
T:A died because of sheer incompetence of Hi-Rez.

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>>388427832
>>388427835
>>388427837
I'm aware it's nothing new, shit like this has always triggered the 'tism to me.

>>388415293
i know people here like to pretend graphics dont matter to signal that they're hardcore gaemurs, but few people want to play a game that looks decades old.

>>388428625
It's not an N64 game though

>>388428625
>but few people want to play a game that looks decades old
Tell that to Minecraft

>>388428821
the graphics are 18 years old

>>388424128
Ye thats true 12 year olds can't handle arena shooters. But how come they can't handle hero shooters like Quake Champions?

>>388428089
>TES VI delayed by an extra year
is this supposed to be a bad thing?

>>388428089
>>388429292
If this didn't do it, Skyrim for iPad would

it's not perfect by any means but my god quake purists are insufferable. youre going to be able to disable abilities in the future, but im sure there will be some other problem.

>>388428089
Why, was id working on Elder Scrolls?

>>388416375
Dear god yes.
I don't care if this post is like three hours old now, anybody that actually hasn't played Q1 desperately needs to. I only wound up actually playing through it this year and was kicking myself like crazy that I hadn't done so before. There's genuinely nothing else like it, including other ID games.

>What /v/ used to be
>This game is not popular but it's a classic check it out instead of that shitty ass Halo game

>/v/ now
>IT'S NOT POPULAR HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA MUST MEAN IT'S SHIT

You can tell the demographic here has changed a bit

>>388428089
>Bethesda Game Studios = Bethesda Softworks
Stop this meme, you are literally retarded.

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>>388429781
It's more like laughing at pathetic companies' attempts to make money off scrubs since the only games we ever play are free or pirated.

>>388429292
Being delayed unfortunately doesn't mean more polish these days.

>>388429781
>calling Halo shit
>muh old /v/
You think fps peaked at HL2, don't you?