Was he a genuinely sympathetic bad guy?

>>388402396
is it CP if I fapped to this?

>>388402396
breengrub would've been a great villain

>>388402396
No, but he was a bean guy.

The way it has an overall human morphology is a little disappointing. At least it's not Trekkian brow ridge aliens, but it has four stubs at the same height as legs and arms would be, it has a chest fold that looks like breasts, it has a distinct cranium and eyes and mouth all with human placing. Has an anus with human-esque placement.

At the very least it shouldn't have those eyes, come on.

I'M BEAN BREEEEEEEEN

He was a dick, but he was doing the only thing he could in his position.
Turning into the Breen Bean is a pretty shit fate

Tell me, Mr. Freeman if you can
You have destroyed so much
What exactly is it you've created?
Can you name even one thing?
I thought not

>>388402773
>hope

>>388402742
I. I... I TURNED MYSELF INTO A GRUB GORDON

I'M BREEN GRUUUUB

>>388402742
>>388402963
Rick and Morty is so bad that it loops around to being pretty funny ironically. Pickle Rick gets a chuckle out of me just because it's so fucking stupid. It's like Bazinga 2.0.

>>388402723
That grub was allegedly supposed to be Breen after he's altered by the Combine, as they do.

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>>388402814
it was not hope anon

>>388402723
It's a larval state. I would assume that, over time, the more human features you mentioned would go away, and at an adult stage would look like the Advisors.

>>388402723
I always thought it was supposed to show how the advisor species used to some kind of large biped but as technology advanced, modified themselves to hell and back to enhance their psychic capability as much as possible, even at the cost of physical capability which could be negated anyway by telekinetic flight and sensory abilities
like how synths were normal xen creatures modified to unrecognizability

Why didn't Gordon & Alyx use Borealis to return to the time before Combines existed and kill their creators?

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>>388402396

>>388403958
because that would've been a retarded cop out of an ending

>>388403225
Why did the combine alter him?

>>388404043
As opposed to what we got?

>>388403958
Because if all that never happened there wouldn't be the Borealis to begin with. Or at least Gordon wouldn't exist in that timeline. It's a Time paradox

>>388403958
Because you cannot control the bootstrap device.

>>388403319
The Advisors ARE the larval stage.

>>388402396
I'm hard pressed to think of anybody who deserves what Breen got.

>>388403958
That'd be a helluvan ending in it of itself if you think about it. Imagine making the decision to go back in time using the Borealis when the Combine were whatever primitive they started off as. Just a bunch of things huddling in the dark like humans once did. Afraid of their equivalent of saber toothed tigers. Then this orange guy and asian black chick show up, they've never seen anything like them before, and the player just slaughters them. Completely removing them from existence.

>>388404220
Happy endings are boring, go read a childrens book if you want one

>>388404383
I can think of a few people.

>>388404396
If you think an ending is good just because it's not happy, I have news for you.

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>>388402396

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He was the wrong man in the right place whereas Freeman was the right man in the wrong place
P O T T E R Y

>>388404482
Where is this picture from btw, is it fanart?

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>>388404575
>is it fanart?
Yes.

>>388402396

Thats the ultimate future form of Gabe, a flying telepathic blob of fat, sucking the life out of a franchise. Combine was really an allegory of Steam itself.

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>>388402396
Breengrub's mercy killing by Gordon is so fascinating because it foreshadows Gordon's killing of humanity itself.

>After the Combine are forced out, Earth is devastated
>ecosystems irreparably destroyed
>majority of crops and farm animals killed off
>all freshwater lakes and the irrigation that comes with them have been sucked up and teleported back to the Combine
>ocean's have been sucked up to the point of lowering sea levels drastically
>humanity's sole food sources come from Combine welfare programs
>all progress relied solely on Combine super technology

By destroying the Combine, Freeman has destroyed any potential for humanity to reestablish itself. Breen was right all along.

And yet Freeman kills humanity anyway because Breengrub is a allegory for what humanity has become: an asymmetrical leech on Combine life support. Freeman in the end decided that a life without freedom wasn't a life at all.

They must be loopy if they think that's the pinnacle of Combine evolution. How do these things build a Dyson Sphere?

But maybe the grubs are just the lowest rung on the shit ladder and the first combine are flying tennis balls or something. You send them so far away you don't have to look at them.

>>388403958
What if the universe the Combine is from doesn't have time?

>>388406395
Portal 2 takes place after the events of the 7 hour war, and we see a full field of wheat, so I don't think Earth is totally fucked.

>Breen was right all along.

>Ooh... Eli.
>If only you could see what I've seen.
>You wouldn't be so shortsighted!
>I have studied 36 zones beyond our own.
>Carbon stars with ancient satellites colonized by sentient fungi. Gas giants inhabited by vast meteorological intelligences. Worlds stretched thin across the membranes where [the] dimensions intersect... Impossible to describe with our limited vocabulary!

>Once Eli has convinced himself of something, not even the truth can change his mind.
>Well, if you'd like to reconsider your involvement in the program, Eli, it would make a huge difference in how quickly we could make the Combine portals safe for human use.
>That way, Alyx, and even yourself, might be able to travel to the Aleph Universe with your faculties intact.
>That is our ultimate goal, after all, to move freely to the continuum to make our incipient immortality worthwhile.

>the real Combine are literally immortal and they most likely reside in the Aleph universe
>it's probably the Dyson sphere
FUCK

mr bean haha

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>>388402396
>bad guy

>>388407513
doesnt portal 2 take place millions of years in the future?

>>388403958
If there was the possibility of such an action fragmenting the timeline, it wouldn't be worth it. They would just be saving themselves while dooming the rest of their humanity to live out eternity under the Combine's heel (what Alyx ended up doing anyway I guess).

>>388407513
portal 2 is like at least 30000 years into the future

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>>388408334
He deserved better.

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>>388408807
But Gordon is taken to the far future too.

>>388408807
source

What's even the source of this image?

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GRUBY BREEN IS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT!

>>388402396
how could this sacks of fat take over the world?

>>388410270
>>388408872
>>388408334
This probably would have been an eraserhead baby moment full of disgusting shit.

>>388407513
>>388408607
>>388408807
Yeah and in the Combine future the world would be either be completely dead or broken down for resources. So something went right.

Even if Chell is the only human left on Earth at least the planet is still there.

>>388410263
The Final Hours of Portal 2 states

"One way to further differentiate Portal and Half-Life was to set the game far in the future—at least 50,000 years."

>>388404220
That's an open ending, they probably wanted to set it up with Portal since at the end of Portal 2 Chel also ends up at an unknow point far in the future.

>>388410263
>99999999999999

>>388410648
30 or 50k

>>388408138
Breen was actually the good guy all along.

>>388406395
wait what

but freeman doesn't destroy the combine..?

>>388410789
He wasn't a good guy nor a bad guy.

>>388403958
>LONG AGO, IN A DISTANT PLANET, WE, COMBINE, THE INTER-DIMENSIONAL MASTERS OF DARKNESS, UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKABLE EVIL, BUT A FOOLISH SCIENTIST, WIELDING A NORMAL CROWBAR, STEPPED FORTH TO OPPOSE US! NOW THE FOOL SEEKS TO GO TO THE PAST, AND UNDO THE FUTURE THAT IS COMBINE!

>>388410985
>combine overlord is actually Aku

I

I want it to happen

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Whats their end goal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLyJP_nH5Cs

>>388411030
Make Eli grub by sucking his brain, and continue the Alyx drama.

Go back in time to free the nihilanth and use its crazy power to btfo gman and the combine.

>A shower curtain company was humanity's only hope

>>388411030
To become as lardly lardy fat as Gaben and achieve galactic monopoly.

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>>388411030
U N I V E R S A L
N
I
O
N

>>388403134
exactly
finally someone that thinks like me

>>388404453
donald drumpfg!!

>>388411030
To feed their ever growing corpulent lifestyles. Just like Gabe.

So what would prevent Freeman from just going back in time and snagging the unstable sample with him, thus preventing the resonance cascade from happening?

If it wasn't for him the human race would have been wiped out.

Something I kind of find weird is how people were surprised by how powerful the Combine turned out to be in the Episode 3 story leak. They have the ability to travel across different universes, so even though they couldn't travel to other planets, due to their lack of local teleportation, I always assumed that they had bases in thousands, if not millions of different universes. Years ago, I used to think that the reason Episode 3 was taking so long was because Valve was trying to think of a way to defeat such a powerful antagonist without it being a complete ass-pull.

>>388411435
Gman would drop kick his ass.

>>388411435
because they he would never have travelled back in time in the first place you retard

>>388411435
A 2nd time-traveling Freeman will be sent to stop the 1st time-traveling Freeman from stopping the resonance cascade from happening, because the future without the resonance cascade is actually worse than the Combine future.

>>388404482
>He was the wrong man
you take that back

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>>388403958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUrJdsN_-B0

I know valve's main excuse for no HL3 was that they didn't have the ability to revolutionise the gaming industry like they did with HL1 and 2, but after reading that ep3 plot I honestly dont think valve needed to revolutionise with episode 3. Like, for people who are incredibly invested in the lore, that ending would have absolutely fucked with them. Even if they released a normal, source engine game in the style of the episodes, I still would've been shook for weeks after that ending. Like, we spent all this time working to overthrow the combine, theorycrafting about just how powerful the borealis is, getting immersed in the game, and then bam. It's all in vain, and gman has been playing you since the beginning. I don't work at valve but seriously I don't know why they couldn't just release the story of episode 3 as a simple 5 hour episode, the EXACT SAME as the previous two. The story was more than good enough

>>388411485
He could pop in and out of that place in time in an instant though, taking the sample from g-man's hands complete with a comedic YOINK

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>>388411450
Maybe it would have been better if the human race had been wiped out.

>>388411435
He can't because then he wouldnt time travel in the first place.

Also people are saying to go back in time to fuck with the combine; did anyone think it may be the human race which is being stopped by the combine?

>>388411595
half life 1
>revolutionize fps genre

half life 2
>do it again + best graphics ever and proper believable physics

half life 3
>PERFECT the genre with all the experience learned from 1+2

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>>388411074
>The combine uses the information sucked from Eli's brain to make an Advisor with his memories and personality

>>388411532
The apocalypse known only as DRUMPF makes combine occupation look like an utopia

>>388411595

That is a shit excuse for many reasons. First, the episodic content. Either episode 1 or 2 revolutionized gaming or half life 2 for that matter. They were more of the same but with new ideas and set pieces.

Why couldn't Episode 3 be the same, another expansion with the same level of ambition of episode 1 and 2 is beyond my comprehension.

Second:
Left 4 Dead 2 and Portal 2. Either managed to completely revolutionize the previous game (L4D2 didn't that for sure) and yet, Valve so no creative issue with releasing/rushing such sequels to their new franchises.

I believe that, back in the day, Valve was too focused on steam, turning it into the monopoly it is today, Gabe too focused on that and not enough time to work on Episode 3 or Half Life 3. Priorities shift. Developing games no longer an important thing for valve, and instead, working on their digital store as the main project and income for Valve.

Years went by and now we reached a point where expectations for a Half Life new game are so high, Gabe is afraid of actually releasing another title, fearing that we would never achieve such expectations and, in the process, ruining the Half Life brand with what would probably be seen as a sequel that doesn't makes up for the years of waiting.


Half Life 3 will happen when Gabe leaves Valve.

>>388412035
>Half Life 3 will happen when Gabe leaves Valve.

I don't think so, to be honest. The depressing truth is that all the micro-transaction stuff is way more profitable, and way easier to do, than big single-player game projects.

>>388411536
He was. Wether or not he was trying to preserve humanity he sold them out.

>>388411595
Half life 3 could revolutionize the genre by just being such a fantastic game. Or by using NON EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY

>>388411595
>>388412035
Any hope for Episode 3 to happen ended once people started calling it Half Life 3 instead. That put the pressure on Valve even further, and they couldn't just give us another 5 hour long adventure in the source engine.

Hopes for Half Life 3 basically ended 18 months ago when Mark left the company. Even if they make one down the line it wouldn't be the same without the main writer behind it. And it doesn't even look like they had Half Life 3 planned at all, seeing as all we got was the plot synopsis of episode 3, not Half Life 3.

>>388410985
>W-without the Combine.... I wouldn't have existed...

>>388412409
I would have been fine with there been no Half-Life 3, but I would have liked Half-Life 2's story to be concluded by Episode 3 actually being made.

I for one welcome our new Combine overlords

Release of HL3 would be the greatest happening in industry since forever and I don't think valve have the balls to make it happen.

I also think they don't have the slightest how to wrap up the story. Especially since Mark left.

I didn't play Half Life 2 and it's episodes until 2009, when I got the Orange Box. Out of curiosity, when did people start getting worried about Episode 3 being delayed?

>>388403134
That's the point dumbass

>>388402723
this reads like a dwarf fortress forgotten beast description.

>beware it's deadly spittle!

>>388402572
I don't understand how Civil Protection would cafe if you fapped.

>>388412609

That is the thing. Episode 3 could have been a thing with little to no hassle. Episode 1 and 2 didn't revolutionize shooters or Half Life.
They could easily make an Episode 3 with little fanfare and still conclude the Half Life 2 story and keep fans happy for that time.

It didn't need to be the second coming of jesus because Episode 1 and 2 weren't either.
Something happen, for some fucking reason production for Episode 3 stopped and never returned

>>388403958
What you are suggesting is actually not logically possible. I would hope Marc is at least smart enough to understand that.

>>388413124
Gaben got so rich of Steam he lost his mind and became some cash hoarder afraid to part with ANY cash.

>>388411030
To do the Combine's dirty work for the higher ups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq5EnEa7Mg8

>>388413124
>Something happen, for some fucking reason production for Episode 3 stopped and never returned

The orange box was pretty much the nail in the coffin for this series. Portal and Team Fortress 2 became the more popular games so they stuck around making hats, Left 4 Dead 2, and Portal 2 instead. They mentioned during that time too that they wouldn't make any more games that didn't have some form of online feature.

>>388402814
That's exactly what I thought when I got to that scene.

>>388413264
I think we should be nice to Gaben because making a really great two-part franchise inadvertently brought him unrelenting attention from le gaming community and maybe he wanted it to be more about his games and less about him as a name and a face

>>388411030
cash and babes

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>all this Reddit & Meme pickle jokes
>no God Emperor Leto II or Navigator jokes

>>388412662
Unironically this. I would have joined the Combine and turn into a mutant cyborg.

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>Deceive you will deceive you
What did he mean by this?

>>388412861
Probably when valve started making more announcement for hats than games.

>>388413907
What is that thing meant to be?

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>>388413907
>Gman betrays Gordon at the end of Episode 3

>>388414113
>>388413907
Come on.

It's not a secret that the G-man is sketchy af

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>>388414113
fuck

>>388411030
If there's anything left of their original consciousness; to dream free of the Combine's mind virus.

>>388413264
His goal became to harvest the entire monetary output of the solar system. He no longer remembers when his hunger began.

>>388413907
http://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/Nihilanth/Quotes

>that voice
>those vague lines
He is really scary

>>388402742
I'm a mean bean Breen machine.

>>388412861
Valve always ran on Valve time. People started being skeptical about Valve's ability to produce episodic content when they realized that the wait for Episode 2 took much, much longer compared to the waiting time between Telltale episodes. The forums I used to read back then are defunct and I can't show you conversations from there, but here's some random older link that I googled up:
https://www.geek.com/games/valve-to-reconsider-episodic-game-releases-568341/
The page discusses how Ep1 had been released by then, but judging by the long wait for Ep2, Valve's decision to go episodic didn't seem to be working out too well.

Episode 2 was eventually released in Orange Box, which was a pretty impressive bundle. I kinda stopped expecting Episode 3 somewhere around then. People at Valve are perfectionists who take their time because they want to one-up their previous accomplishments, and it would be very difficult for them to ever top Orange Box.

>>388414113
you betrayed him in episode 1, remember?

>Vorts are strong enough to control G-Man, who is stronger than the Combine
>But they still get their shit kicked in by intergalactic mall cops

>>388414512
>>388413907
>Win... you cannot win...

IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW

>>388411030
WE WILL NEVER KNOW

>>388414715
They needed several vortigaunts to block Gman, more like.

>>388402396

That doesn't even resemble Breen. Where did you get this artwork from anyway? How do we know this specific advisor was intended to be Breen?

>>388413595

you cant expect this neo-v to of read dune

What do you guys think the race that founded the Combine Empire looks like? Given the Combine's obsession with technology, I think that the original race would be just minds uploaded to super-advanced Combine machinery.

>>388414605
>and it would be very difficult for them to ever top Orange Box.
>The Black Box featuring Half life 3 episode One, Half life 3 episode Two, Left 4 Dead 3, and Team Fortress 3

>>388411072
God, this would have been a great credits sequence for episode 3

You launch at their planet, realize that it won't work, and you lose control of gordon as the camera pans backwards behind him as you see your first look at him from 3rd-person. the music slowly picks up like in the video and continues as the borealis hurtles closer and closer towards the dyson sphere, as Gordon watches on in silence

>>388411030
Probably a guy working for another Combine trying to get up on their political ladder

>>388404116
he's important to their Earth sect

>>388414706
The vorts just kind of inserted themselves into that but I'm curious what he planned to do if they hadn't. We know he had plenty of interaction with other characters, but I always got the impression that he treated Gordon as a special case. Just leaving him behind and taking Alyx as a replacement because of "betrayal" seems too simplistic and unplanned for a guy who is undeniably a major orchestrator.

>i dont care about half life anymore!
>100 threads a day
>dyson sphere is now a meme
Just imagine what would have happened if it released as a game. The script is just too good.

>>388404116
Pretty sure it is a backup of his personality, basically cloning him as a grub. Kind of seems like the grubs work like a computer and can just directly ingest information, based on the supposed reason for eating Eli's brain. They just made a grub and injected Breen's mind into it. From their perspective, this is a pretty good outcome for a collaborator since they are literally joining the master race. It forces a loyal subject to remain loyal, as well.

>>388403958
Because they can't control the device and the Combine command center was apparently where it was going to end up in the future. It exists everywhere on its path at once so they could see it being inside their base in the future, they didn't actually drive it there to attack them. The plan was to explode it in a location where it already is.

>>388414961
The Combine are actually the garden gnome race, putting one in the missile at the end of ep2 triggered Eli's death, eye for an eye revenge and all that.

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>>388411072
I unironically don't want these feels.

>>388414961
The original race is the AIs that live in the vast databanks of the dyson spheres, their only drive as a civilization to get more computing power. All the other races in the union are just "slave" races that are forced to serve the Combine agenda outside of the Dyson spheres that house 99.999% of the population of all life

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>>388415328
Dyson Sphere

they planned this shit from the start. Ep 3 would of been biblical. What a fucking waste.

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>>388415328

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>>388415328
>>388415386
>the negative space it creates is steam's logo piston end
What did Valve mean by this?

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>>388415423

>>388416124
deepest lore

>>388413907
Game theorists has a cringey, hard to watch video about how the G Man is one of these, and it makes some interesting points. Interestingly, it came out right before this Ep 3 storyline, but I can't bring myself to rewatch it to see if it changes anything.

>>388415423
>>388416124
Fuck you you made me laugh like a fucking retard

>>388411030
what the fuck does those symbols mean?

Feeling like I'm late to the party here. What's with all the Half-life talk and stuff about a Dyson Sphere?

>>388416782
The lead writer for Half Life leaked his outline for Episode 3. Google around so you can read it first.

>>388413907

>gman tricked gordon into killing the one thing that was preventing the combine from wrecking our universe's shit

>>388416839
Thanks anon, just woke up and must have missed this. I'll have a look.

>>388416782
long story short

Gordon and alex get to the borealis, time portal warping ship, Mossman wants to study it, Alyx angry about her fathers death says fuck that, goes full punished snake, makes Gordon and her ram it into the supposed combine base, they get there

it's a fucking dyson sphere [look it up] the explosion from this ship that was meant to save them won't be any effect, what so ever, it'll be like a matchstick going out against a wall, everything is meaningless blablabla the entire struggle was pointless and none of it mattered

also on the portal charge to borealis skipping through time Gordon sees past and future and the entire army of the Combine and realizes there LOWEST ranks were sent to earth which took it out and brought humanity to its knees in 7 hours. there is no hope for us and we fucked up, or, Alyx did.

also Cave Johnson is the saviour of humanity, technically.

Crack Life 2 when?

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>>388417094
>Dyson sphere
>theorized by Freeman Dyson

Why would G-man keep fucking with Alyx? Surely he has done all the mischief he wanted? He is about to destroy the thing that threatened his species, a teleporting device, the borealis, given to the Combine, but now that's destroyed, and I can only imagine the entire human race with it. The fuck is he going to do with a single, meaningless human?

>>388417094

I was under the impression that gordon stopped any chance of the combine returning to our universe in ep1-2, and that while there's no way he could stop their multidimensional empire, he stopped them from ever being an issue for humanity again once the remaining forces are driven off earth (and they were losing pretty badly by ep2)

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>>388417448

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>>388417459
Fug

>>388417459
breed

>>388417546
That is the wrong impression. If the Combine wanted too, they would send there slightly higher ranks then the lowest ones they sent, and destroy every human of the face of earth, and if they really wanted to humiliate us, they would just send the top ranks, and we wouldn't even have a chance to say the word 'Dyson' before our DNA was turned into stardust.

>the initial excitement of thinking you're going to destroy the Combine homeworld
>the grim revelation that it's going to be a suicide mission
>the slow realization during the approach that it's not a planet you're approaching... it's a solar system
>the time flashes revealing it's not even the Combine "home system," it's just one solar system base among countless others
>the realization that all of humanity is an insignificant speck before the power of the Combine Empire, that Breen was right
>the realization that the Borealis is just going to leave a little scratch mark on only one of many bases
>the realization that you're going to die for nothing

Half-Life 2: Episode Three was the most chilling and powerful game ever made.

>>388411030
Is he giving a thumbs up?

>>388417874
never made, anon. :(

>if half life episode 3 does ever come out it'll be a complete different story and under the development of nu-valve and not the original writers, and we won't get this ending

suffering, on pain, and then more suffering

make the hurt go away

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the combine sound like the Qu

>>388403958
That would create a time loop and a bland ending.

>>388402723
I though Brean had human features because is an advisor mixed with human DNA

>>388417741

They couldn't send anything to earth after ep2, their superportal got destroyed by Alyx and Gordon.

>>388403958
Because timetravel is a shitty plot device full of plotholes.

>>388417459
he needs a fresh mind that still has hope

>>388402396

Breen did nothing wrong.

His speeches are 10/10, I revisit them from time to time.

Why didn't Gordon pilot the Borealis into the thermal exhaust port of the Dyson Sphere, starting a chain reaction which destroys it and brings down the Combine?

>>388417874
I don't get why people are interpreting this. The destruction of the Borealis is important enough for it to be part of GMan's plan. The Combine were actively studying it, probably because they don't have access to time travel technology and wanted it badly. Gordon and Alyx's plan may not have worked from their point of view, but the whole theme of the entire series is that most of the shit you do is orchestrated by higher powers.

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With the praise of the timetravel level of Titanfall 2, I don't get it why Valve was afraid to make the timeslipping Borealis for Ep 3. They can easily make a mindfucking version of that shit

But they choose to focus on Dota, Esports and a fucking card game instead

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Is this the most kino moment in vidya?

>>388418214

A single tiny hole being able to destroy their most important base and somehow the entire empire with it? What shit writing

>>388418240
Now we know the ending of ep 3, this moment truly does mean so much fucking more. It is GENIUNE kino.

>>388402396
His voice actor is dead.

>>388418214
even if this was the case, which it isn't, but let's just say, by some 0000000000000.1 chance this could happen

this is ONE star of possibly hundreds of thousands of millions the combine have

So if the Borealis rubber bands through time, does that mean if we wait around at the dock in Portal 2 long enough it will eventually blink back into its pre-departure state?

>>388418240
Ultra giga infinite omniKINO that will never be realized

I haven't played any half life game in years and haven't read the full leak but I just wanted to ask, is GMan's entire plan to fuck up the Combine? Might be asking a very stupid question.

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>>388417546
>any chance of the combine returning to our universe in ep1-2
They closed the Combine super-portal, that means the Combine could come back without help. But the Borealis had enough space-time technology to do that and more, which is why you and Alyx went there to stop the Combine from getting it.

What song plays as the camera pans out and we see Gordons face for the first time as he witnesses the true power of the Combine and his mind is completely blow at how insignificant it all is?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhJpXouayE4

WHo is G man?

>>388418321
The grub would have distorted voice. THEY KNEW.

>>388418548
G spot specialist

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>>388412662
>bending over and taking it up the ass
>not enacting a multi-generation plan to steal their shit without them noticing, learn how it works, use it against them, and laugh at their ayy asses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bvowiyc85U

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>>388418350
Yes and no. It exists in both Aperture Science and the Antarctic simultaneously. It exists at every second between the moment it was activated to the moment it's destroyed/deactivated.

If you went to its drydock you'd be able to see it and maybe board it but it exists almost entirely within the Antarctic and can probably never "go back".

>>388416630
the writer said there was only one Nihilanth.

>>388418513
Nobody is actually quite sure what the fuck G-mans plan is, and we can only hazard a guess, but it is along the lines that he is working for a higher power, AGAINST the Combine, and he knows the Combine want that portal technology [the borealis] it doesn't matter how many eons ahead as a super society the combine is, inventing something like the portal transport is a 000000000000000000.1 chance and it just so happens humans did it. If the Combine get a hold of that, then the universe truly is fucked, and g-mans species with it. This is just my interpretation, G-man is however working for other people, he even says, he is a sneaky cunt

>>388418005
Except the Combine make sense and aren't a plot device to work out the creator's biohorror fetish onto paper.

>>388418545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLyJP_nH5Cs

>>388404386
>Just a bunch of things huddling in the dark like humans once did.
This would be really thematically cool and poetically ironic

>>388418779
Gman wouldn't let that happen, hes playing 69D chess.

>>388411030
For the Combine to survive at all costs for as long as possible.

>>388418279
How does the ending add more meaning to "pick up the can"?

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>>388412676
>>388412234

Nah drab shit like Overwatch is the thing these days and is unfortunately the general direction the industry is heading in. Make the characters as vanilla as possible so as not to offend anyone and litter the game with micro-transactions.

Half-Life revolutionaised the gaming industry and was from an era where boundaries were actually being pushed.

>>388418998
The ilusion of struggle.

>>388418998
ladies and gentleman, watch, the pleb in his natural surroundings

think anon, you can do it, just think why that means so much more

>>388419076
It's true but I still think ep3 would have been a worthwhile income just because of how much people were expecting it.
Tons of people have played half life, at least one of these, even those who haven't played it are aware of the episode 3 never coming out, and surely they'd be curious and buy it.

>>388418998
the feeling of witnessing ultimate horror of cosmic proportions so we just close the fucking door and forget about it because there's literally nothing we can do

>>388419125
Joke's on you faggot some other nerd gave me the answer less than a minute before you did
Almost made me think

>>388419076
Is this what getting older feels like? Just realizing you're not -IT- anymore? That you're just not part of the program?

It doesn't have to be like this.

Should the player have been given a choice at the end of HL3 the same way G-man gave Gordon a choice at the end of HL1?

>>388402396
never cared much about Half Life in the first place but reading the ending I kept thinking about the Combine. How their leaders must look like, who created them, how giant their numbers must be, how many worlds they control ...
anybody got any theories about them they would like to share.
I only have a theory about the G-Man that he is part of a smaller secret alien nation that wants to destroy the Combine

>>388419298
What choice?

>>388419170
They should have done it just to tie things off even if it was to be their final Half-Life game ever, the way this series died was a traversty and indicative of how far this industry has fallen into it's current trappings.

>>388419343
obey the gman or be raped by alien grunts in a dark room

>>388419343
You get the choice to follow G-Man to stasis or you can decline, where he'll stick you in a room of aliens without weapons and you die

>>388419283
If you think the direction the industry is moving in is pro-consumer then I have some bad news for you.

>>388404043
you're an idiot

>>388418687
I always liked to imagine that the G-Man was a alternate version of Freeman form the Future.
They actually look quiet a lot similar.

>>388419435
nono, I know that, I mean the choice in episode 3? What would be the choice there?

Stay in the Borelis and await your death realizing it's all pointless, or leave with G-man to wherever the fuck he is planning?

http://half-life.wikia.com/wiki/Samuel

Everything about the half life series is so fascinating. Reading about old beta versions and old scripts is great, I hope more leaks out.

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>>388404707
>Gigantic sphere enclosing around a star
>Still has their stupid logo on it

>>388418545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1Adu8q1sVg

>>388419313
G-Man wants to destroy their space-time technology. His race probably monopolized this shit because other races will fuck everything

>>388419313
Gman is a time-travelling agent saboteur, who is working for some combine overlord strugling for the crown seat in the combine empire.

Freeman is enough to make the leadership look bad, but not to make actual damage

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>>388416124
holy fucking shit dude

>>388419772
Let's not forget that Gman also killed Eli for a reason. Sometimes hes cool, sometimes hes a bitch.

>>388415386
looks more like a claw holding a planet in my eyes

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>>388416124
really

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>>388416124

>>388406507
The Breengrub twitter implies that advisers aren't the original Combine

So was Half Life a space opera this whole time?

>>388402773
I've created a pile of dead bodies lmaonade

>>388418545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oday_Fc-Gc

>>388420151
>implies
It flat out says the Shu'ulathoi were just grubs on a shithole planet until THEY arrived and corrupted them

>>388402396
Is that u in inside?

>>388419508
To follow him or die on the Borealis.

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>>388418545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UthQ2gR1bU4
Any other answer is trash bin worthy

>>388418998
The can represents episode 3 and the combine represents Gabe Newell.

He asks you to put it in the trash because it isn't profitable to make the game and it'd be better if you forgot it.

If you throw it at him he beats the shit out of you because you won't let go of the dead franchise when he has other games for you to play.

>>388420238
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9hagVL-__c

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>>388417546
This is a good question actually. The combine needed the resonance cascade to find earth initially. Do they now have our coordinates, but just need adequate time to prepare a portal back?

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So in the end, if I have this right:
Gman dumps you for good.
Gman claims Alyx as his newest asset, for unknown reasons.
Gordon is saved at the last minute by Vorts, but is placed in an unknown place and time on Earth right before the game ends.
Combine is established as 99.999% truly undefeatable as they apparently dwarf the Warhammer 40K scale.
The one thing the Combine could want at this point, time control, is out of their reach for now. Though that mean humanity's last best hope is gone too.
Fate of humanity is uncertain, but probably safe for the time being.

Honestly, it's a great ending, though grim as hell. What does any of it mean by that point? I guess if there were to be a sequel, Valve could literally go anywhere they wanted.

Pic related, Gordon's god damn face through all of this.

The perfect song doesn't exi-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLyJP_nH5Cs

>>388420325
I hate how perfect this would of been, and we'll never get it

>>388420325
This would be perfect.

>>388420416
>implying implications
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy61r3Qkm6o

I'M A BEAN, FREEMAN. I TURNED MYSELF INTO A BEAN.

this could've been the pinnacle of gaming. gordon facing the dyson sphere for the first time would've been the pinnacle of gaming as a whole. god fucking damn it

>>388420393
Honestly? I think if this was ever made, it should end on this note. We don't need closure on that, you can leave us hanging. We could make up our own stories on what happens. What happens if we just got this ending, humanity lost, Gordon lost, it doesn't ALWAYS have to be a happy ending. It is honestly a god tier ending.

also, slight theory, plot twist

>vorts tele Gordon out of borealis at the last moment, realizing it is going to crash and not even scratch the surface of the combine base
>combine are prepared for the ship, somehow stop it using there advanced technology
>G-man was behind it the entire time, he got the humans to send and deliver to there front door, out giant portal gun technology to the highest bidder, wrapped up in a nice bow

I don't really care about the story and gameplay in HL2.
All i wanted was more of that sweet combine aesthetic.

I know the art director on HL2 is doing similar stuff in the Dishonored games, but it's just not the same.

How do Combine actually look like?

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>>388420325
...oh my god

>>388420858
Never said

>>388420858
We can only imagine how they look

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>>388420541
I WAS EATING THOSE BEANS ARE YOU FUCKING INSANE? I WAS EATING THOSE BEANS!

>>388420858
Tape a crab to your face. Kind of like that

Can someone summarize the ending for me?

>>388420325
It's so fucking iconic it's the only song that would work. It plays at a lot of significant parts in the series like when Gordon puts on the HEV suit for the first time. And of course all the intros. I can just imagine as Gordon steadily approaches the sphere the song speeds up

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>>388421068

>You will never see Freeman's Mind Freeman react to the Dyson Sphere

How would he have reacted?

>>388420858
Breen mentioned something about gas giants with vast meteorological intelligences.

>>388420932
>>388420953
So what race are advisors? I always thought Combine are like those slugish creatures.

>>388421045
I always though headcrabs come from Xen??? They're Combine origin? Turns out I knew nothing about Half Life

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>>388421129

>>388421127
The last part is a jab at current Valve, not part of the story.

>>388421217
It's part of the story and also metaphor for his time at Valve.

>completely forgot plot of HL2
>reading wiki
>"Suppression Field"
>"7 Hour War"
>mind control
>genocide
HL2 plot is really serious business. But how humanity lose to Combine? Their helicopters and Tripods don't look dangerous.

>>388418545

GUESS I GOT

WHAT I DESERVED

>>388421127
Pretty sure Dr. Ro is Mossman

>>388421129
Ross would have went autistically into detail what kind of an super power they have to be to even start making one and the babble about that as long as he could.

>>388421127
that has gone to be the most unfulfilling way to tell the story, even in that shortend version, holy fuck somebody remake this and actually make a interesting tl:dr instead of this version who isn't explaining anything properly

>>388421289
7 Hour War was basically an event where some pocket army of the Combine came and went, and established a small time militia to control earth. Basically you're fighting against some small time esnlaved races and other humans the whole time.

>>388421289
The Combine we see in the games is just a local occupation force.

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>>388402396

i wouldnt worry Breen was just another bean counter!

>>388421289
>Their helicopters and Tripods don't look dangerous.
Those are the lowest of the low of the combine army. Literally just enslaved aliens with some guns on them and human tech. All the soldiers you fight are simply humans that are either mind controlled or flat out cyborgs. In the 7 hour war they actually sent out some of their own troops. At least we can assume.

>>388419582
Their logo IS a Dyson sphere.

>>388421289

The combine we meet ingame are the shitt occupational force, in the combine's eyes earth is just another backwater shithole to steal resources from

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>>388420858
Like a ballsack with arms and legs.

>>388421127
it's like reading that john freeman fanfic. doesn't feel right if it's not a game

>>388421289
The Combine in the game are the equivalent of mall cops.

>>388421142
Xen is a borderworld between universes and it's inhabited by various refugee species that had to leave their worlds because of a Combine invasion. There are Nihilanthian species with multiple eyes and a third arm, the vorts, grunts, controllers and the Nihilanth. There are also Gargantuan species with 4 arms and a single eye, like the gargs and race X. Then there are various inconsistently looking animals like the bullsquids, gonarchs and headcrabs, icthycanthi, voltigores, and blind tentacles and the Geneworm.

>>388421508
Yes, but it's a bit silly to put your logo on something that's larger than a planet.

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>>388419582

>>388421668
By the time you build a Dyson Sphere you're just showing off, might as well go all the way

>>388421668
They had to steal all the orange paint from earth

>Evidence such as the ghostly laughs and screams of children that can be heard in the playground outside one of the apartments in the first chapter, a crying couple that can be seen shortly thereafter, the fact that the player does not see any children in the most human-populated areas, remarks by Resistance members such as "I'm glad there's no kids around to see this," and the presence of discarded toys such as baby dolls can be seen during the game, but they are only reminders of the past.
This is spooky

>>388421142
Advisors are a species of giant telekinetic slug. The combine enslaved them by planting a pro-combine meme that spread and infected them via mental connection

>>388421668
They harvested the resources of 6 entire universes to get enough paint to put that logo there and you call it silly.

>>388421734
Good excuse to not have to model kids and make them invulnerable, tho

>>388404337
they are not, their technical and biological evolution caused their now quite useless limbs to become stubby vestigial limbs. advisors possess telekinetic abilities, able to move their bodies and objects without the use of legs or the need of arms. they lost their own eyes over the eons because they did not use them anymore, they all have cybernetic augmentations, like their camera eyes, their hardware interfacing ports which connects them to their armored pods and their "clothes" which have additional anti gravity levitators to assist their movements. one of the advisors in ep2 used them at full power as it escaped from the barn, causing the roof to be sucked up in a gravity vortex as it took off.

they are not larvae, they are quite the opposite. it is something you would expect to happen with a species which possesses since eons psychokinetic powers and highly developed intelligence. ironically it looks like they devolved, but its just evolution getting rid of useless features.

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>>388421668
I made this 8 years ago. I decided that the logo is just a simple representation of the structure around their homeworld

What Combine want from Earth? Our resources? Why do they drain the oceans and turn civilians into zombies?

>>388421668
WE DO WHAT EVER WE WANT, FUCK YOU.
WE SHOULD HAVE PUT OUR LOGO IN YOUR SATELITE MOON, HELL, WE SHOULD HAVE TEAR EURASIA INTO OUR LOGO.
FUCK YOU.

>>388421802
It would be, but there were already children models made, and most friendly NPCs are placed in nonhostile areas anyways.

>>388421129
I'm sure we'll find out during the September Q&A

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Please marc, PLEEEASE WRITE A BOOK FOR HL3. I WANT MORE STORY VALVLE LET HIM

>>388421837
>being THIS wrong
https://twitter.com/breengrub

They're called grubs because that's literally what they are. They came from a radioactive shithole of a planet where they spent years in a larval stage beneath the ground in a telepathic fantasy world inside their own heads, then hatched into mindless insects that reproduced on the surface for the few days the radiation died down.

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>>388421802
But they did model kids, they just didn't use them.

>>388418545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wojyU517Up8

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Combine have great taste in design.

>>388402396
He wasn't a bad guy

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what do you guys think? Biggest social experiment in gaming to gather reactions until the announcement?

What's the lore behind the garden gnomes?

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>>388421878
>we will never play this
You even nailed some sort of Dyson sphere enveloping their star

>>388421941
>black penises are not normal
THIS IS RACIST!

>>388422235
Some people have terrible taste in lawn ornamentation

>>388402742

The name should be breen bean

for obvious reasons

>>388421772
>entire
You keep saying that...

>>388422180
>Great taste in design
>That tiny ass wheel that can't touch the ground.

>>388422215
No, they just wanted some money.

>The DOTA Card g- AWWWWWWWWW

>>388422215
they can't piss off the chink hordes

>>388422112
good

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Reminder the grubs were going to be the key to opposing the Combine.

>>388421908
Before the recent reveal of the combine's massive scale, it was more believable that they needed Earth's natural resources.

Now it's apparent that if the combine wanted, they could completely deconstruct planets for raw resources and that only after some appraisal, that certain technologies that only humans have developed are wanted, but have become difficult for the Combine to acquire. The combine could also, for whatever reason, want to keep Earth around, albeit modified. Human's as slaves and soldiers could also be desired, and were implied to be used in off-world missions.

Was the HL3 ending satisfying to people who are invested in Half Life? I only know general bits and pieces of the story so I didn't really get much from it, sounded cool though`

>>388422215
they just went lazy with the font

>>388422242
iirc it's supposed to be an artificial star suspended in the structure due to their own star having been reduced to a white dwarf ages ago.

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>>388422215
>to gather reactions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0qZTS38cjw

Do you think that's what they were hoping for?

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>>388421668
The Combine are a K2, or possibly even a K3 level civilization

A K2 level civilization can literally drag a star and use it's energy as a giant cannon to obliterate an entire solar system.

A K3 level civilization has 100-400 billion Dyson Spheres, and are basically gods


If they want to paint a fucking Jupiter sized logo, they fucking can

>>388422443
These nightmarish creature CAN be felled, they CAN be beaten

>>388422215
>what do you guys think?
You need help.

>>388422498
you are a true visionary

>>388422486
It would have been the perfect send off for Half-life

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>>388422215
stop please man. i cant take it

>>388422517
holy fuck you can feel the disappointment but they just clap and cheer because it's what you do at a event like that

WHAT THE FUCK ARE VALVE DOING

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>>388422398

>>388422486
well for one, I'm disappointed it was never made even after all these years and i would've been satisfied with it ending like this
Now im just angry

>>388422443
>Marc is talking both about the game story and the situation between valve staff and the fans
this is some mind boggling meta shit on a super high level

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>chinese dragon combat synths never ever

>>388422623
Don't quit your sphere building job

There is a universe where this game was completed and is almost universally considered the best video game ever made. And you'll N E V E R play it.

>>388422517
THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY THIS IS REAL

could of been worse

>half life logo appears
>people lose there collective shit
>THE CARD GAME

>>388422486
Yeah because it hypes up the next sequel even more

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>>388414113
WHY THE FUCK VALVE DID NOT RELEASE HALF LIFE 3?

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>>388422728
I'm so upset I've gone backwards into happiness, it's like the forbidden fruit our timeline wasn't allowed, it's like it was too fucking pure for us, we are not worthy.

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>>388422728
stop. im already dead

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>>388411030
>>388417934
thanks for the idea

>>388420858
How do Animals actually look like? And don't show me cats or dogs or elephants or humans. I want to see the real animal, the most important animal who governs all others.

>>388422827
I don't know what you are talking about. This game died a long time ago. I'm just happy I got a little closure. It made my weekend.

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>>388422486
I don't like how they turned Alex into a turbobitch though.

>>388422728
FUCK YOU! I'll unite the world, conquer the solar system, build a dyson sphere to power a multiverse teleport and travel to universe where they got Half Life 3!

>>388418524
i wonder what this thing is.

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>>388422958

>>388408138
Man, the Combine is some Lovecraftian shit.

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>>388421129

>>388418631
>Suppression field active
>multi-generational plan

Anon...

>>388420858
The Combine isn't a race, dumbass.

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>>388402742
>"I'M GRUB BREEEEEEN"

>>388423191
Who said anything about race, cunt? They still have to LOOK like something, it's not like they're abstract.

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>>388414113
>>388413907

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>>388423089
Probably something Gordon saw in the timetravel trippy trip on the Borealis

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>>388421141
Leaked concept art
I think this is how they look.

>>388423074
>It's a good day
>HL3 was just released to universal appraise
>Portal 3 was even teased as an easter egg!
>But suddenly
>The sky tears asunder, turning a sickening red
>An amorphous mass of metal careens through the sky, causing a deafening cry to ring throughout the planet
>Moans of the damned cry out from it as the hulking ship starts dropping more masses
>No wait, those are people!
>They slam into the ground wailing at the top of their lungs
>"GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABE!"
We can only hope, anon

>>388423259
They look like what we've seen so far plus probably several other machines/races.

>inb4 the Combine is the Dyson sphere

>>388423376
No there the dyson cube