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Clunky and Realistic or Nimble and Over the top mecha?

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Clunky and Realistic or Nimble and Over the top mecha?
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>>388399447
I like both. Depends on context.
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Yes.
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AFW.
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>>388399548
Yep. Junkers if you have a tighter story with rich character depth and world development, Supers if you're going more high-concept and/or large-scope.

Play Xenogears for both.
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>>388399560

Best answer.
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Titans from Titanfall are a pretty good balance. They're not very clunky and can get around pretty effectively, but they're also not too absurd.
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>>388399610
This game would have been really great if it weren't so repetitive.
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>>388399447
both and more
as long it's pilotable and bipedal - everyone is welcomed
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>>388399447
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>>388399447
There is no such thing as a realistic mech. Go over the top or use tanks like a real man.
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This is the ideal mech.

You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
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>>388401249
>titans
>mechs

on a serious note, their designs are pretty alright in 2nd game, especially versus battletech ones.
I wish it wasn't online focused tho, campaign seems to short to bother
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>>388401438
It is short, but once it kicks off it never slows down. Also features one of the most innovative levels in any FPS games.
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>>388402301
Yeah. I heard good stuff about it. but it'll be awhile till it reaches prices for me to purchase cause it's that short.
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>>388402301
>Also features one of the most innovative levels in any FPS games.
The time travel level? I quit just after that, figured I'd already seen the best the game had to offer.
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I wouldn't call the slow and clunky type 'realistic' but I would call it the best.
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>>388402487
You didn't really miss out on anything. Nothing else stands out after the time travel level.
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>>388402374
That sucks because it was $30 just a couple of weeks ago.
>>388402487
That was defiantly the peak, but the end levels had a lot of emotion and challenge. Also the second to last boss is fantastic.
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>>388399447
Both are great depends on their loadout/skills/animations tbhj
https://youtu.be/9K2lxNahQ_c?t=4m14s
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I like both but tend to lean towards the clunky and slow type because I like to play tank in video games.

They're both good when animated though.
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>>388402617
>That sucks because it was $30 just a couple of weeks ago.
I'll wait till it 10$ range
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I like massive and stocky
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>>388402637
*smirk*
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>>388402598
Always and forever.
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>>388399447
>Clunky and Realistic or Nimble and Over the top mecha?

Lately I've been liking clunky and over the top.
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I also want to take amount to shit talk this design from the upcoming movie. It's left arm terminates in a giant wrecking ball. It doesn't have shoulders, so its arms can't be raised above chest level. Sticking straight out in front, and down at its sides. That is the range of movement. This is a retarded design made by retarded people.
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>>388402776
Ur suitfu a shit
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>>388399447
I'm just a bitch for anything that can stomp around, but I have to admit I like the second a bit more, up to a certain point.
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Will Gundam Versus be good?
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>>388399447
Clunky and realistic so they can get raped by tanks.
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My criteria for a good mech is based entirely on whether they have some analogue of the hip adductor muscles or cover the groin enough for me to believe they have them.
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>>388402869
fuck u
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I pray for a new Armored Core that will let me build mecha of every trope.
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>>388399610
>Posts the worst one
Out.
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More fond of big and clunky ones.
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>>388399447
Clunky and Over the Top
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>Still no game that accurately models how Battletech mechs move and fight including grappling and melee
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>>388399548
FPBP

Although I always had a thing for Wanzers in Front Mission and how they emoted.
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quick and realistic
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>>388403523
It'll never happen. Mechs in the novels are about as limber as anything from anime, but 90% of the fanbase only knows battletech through Mechwarrior, so if they see mechs doing anything more than plodding around with their arms sticking straight ahead, they go into autistic rage
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>>388399447
Shiranui is my waifu
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I like both for different things.
Clunky and slow if its more realistic, adding a sim time feel to it
Nimble and over the top if its got cool action and movesets with creative designs.
Extra points if its nimble and over the top that is a sim type game.
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>>388403670
They're agile but not quite Anime agile. They definitely have a lot more articulation than what all the games show in them though.

That one Battletech turn based game is close but not quite.
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Mazinkaiser SKL was cool
>SRW UX/BX fantranslation never
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>>388403670
>>388403820
I think the real reason why they don't is because it's hard to make it work from a gameplay point of view. Tank movement is easy. Trying to implement melee, grappling, jumping or other advanced movements isn't in an action game.
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>>388399548

Yep, I lean more towards the more realistic ones though for reasons this anon>>388399864 stated.
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>>388403594
is this a dark souls reference?
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Iron Harvest cannot get here soon enough.
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>>388399610

>tfw no Red Ring on PSP or Vita

It's a perfect fucking handheld game.
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Both are alright, but don't give me "clunky and realistic" if I don't play from cockpit POV.
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>>388404692
>console rts
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>>388404741
The xbox 360 kinda hoarded that game, anon.
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>>388399447
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>>388403523
All I've wanted to do in MWO from day one is to actually use my mechs' fists to punch another mech in the fucking FACE.

Actually being able to use the Dragon's chest for ramming things way back in beta before they pussied out of fun mechanics was cool though.
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>>388404897
is this new digimon?
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How did we go from this
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>No Front Mission 1/2/3 HD

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>388402776
>posting the worst zaku redesign

God the 90s version was so fucking ugly, Thunderbolt's Zaku is almost perfect outside of the backpack.
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>>388405047
To this what the fuck?
Original Steel Battalion and Line of Contact are the very epitome of mecha simulators though.
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>>388404897
Thanks Doctor
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>>388404948
>When the Dragon had infinite mass
>Stripping all weapons and loading it with the largest possible engine to continually knock down enemy Mechs
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>>388405108
That's an enemy from Vectorman
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>>388402598
to the casual
she's no gundam
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>>388405108
SWIGGITY SWOOTY
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>>388405151
I'm so happy mah boy guncannon is back in gundam versus
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>>388399447
Over the top. Realistic mechs always bother me since I end up thinking to myself that there's no reason to be in a mech shape instead of just being a tank. It's a suspension of disbelief thing you know? Weird mechs don't make me wonder at all.
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Did someone talk about cool power suits?
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Both appeal to me. Any answer other than "both" is wrong.
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>>388405169
>Could go toe-to-toe with the Hyaku Shiki
>Transforms faster than the Zeta

There's no comparison, Asshimar blew it's contemporaries out of the water
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>>388403594
source?
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>>388399447
Front Mission mechs are literally perfect.
They feel like someone figured out how to make some kind of ultra efficient fuel and made a bunch of flying tanks with it.
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>>388405218

>A cripple in a wheelchair will always be more effective than an able bodied soldier.

Literally fucking what?

This is how retarded tank fags are.
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>>388399610

How do I beat the Type 3 in mission 3?
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What did you guys think of the mechs in XCX?
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>>388399447
I choose space jet mecha
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>>388405375
A cripple in a powered, armoured wheelchair... Yeah.
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>>388405371
It's fusion power iirc. Though not part of the mainline continuity Gunhazard touches a bit on it. The advent of fusion power was what made ATLAS obsolete before it was even completed. (no clear consensus on whether the Society had any part to play in that, but given how much pies they have their fingers in by the time Albert wipes them out, there's a big chance)
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>>388405498
They are bloody great
Love the designs so much, got author artbook too and Formula plamo kit
Game handled them well as well, I even imported JP Wii U bundle
maybe not perfect - I'd preffer if mechs didn't float constantly while in combat, and flight module ruins it a bit.
Also no 60 LVL police doll, that sucked.
But still
It's fucking BEST mecha JRPG ever. There is literally no alternative to how great it is.
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>>388405559

Versus an able bodied, mobile, and dexterous soldier in a powered, armoured suit, will always lose.

Tank fags BTFO.
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>>388404435
How the fuck is that a Dark Souls reference? I swear the fanbase for that franchise is the worst.
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>>388405658
That's the one complaint I've always had about mech combat in the game. The fact that even before you get the flight module, your mech hovers in combat. Kind of annoying, but I guess it was done to facilitate ease of movement (both horizontal and vertical) while fighting.
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>>388405674
>shoots you in the joint from a mile away
Pffft, kid... too easy...
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>>388399447
Reminder that the only realistic "mecha" are nimble powered armor.

Most clunky, no arms, walking tank mecha are functionally just tanks, but worse.

Why put legs on something that doesn't take advantage of them in any way?
If you want realism either make something with all the versatility of a humanoid form but on a larger scale, or just make a better tank.

Clunky doesn't mean useful.
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>>388405764
yeah, that and making animations while you have one constant idle state was easier too I guess.
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BT for TF2 has legitimately one of the best mech designs i've ever seen
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>>388402776
come at me senpai
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Why does it still hurt /v/...?
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>>388405768

>watches you topple down a flight of stairs
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>no good magitech mech/super robot games
White Knight Chronicles and Frame Gride are basically it.
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>>388406023
*applies physics*

heh....nothin personel..... mechfags....
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>>388399447
Nimble and realistic.
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>>388405923
It triggers my autism that destroying his head disables the entire body but the head doesn't have a thick armor plate covering it while the rest of the mech is armored.
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>>388406159
>make a great model like this
>leave mold lines on the gatlings
what the fuck I'm so triggered
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>>388406023
>flipping an Abrams onto it's turret

how the fuck do you even drive this badly?
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>>388405218
There are reasonable reasons for mech suits in a military situation, but you can trump them all with the issue of how insane the logistics would be. In comparison to a tank they'd be extremely expensive and be very easy to take out.
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Who /funkybighead/ here?
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>>388404948
does MWO not have melee
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>>388406469
You can walk into enemy mechs and do minor damage but that's it
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>>388406504
that sounds dumb
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>>388399610
Ring of Red is a fucking terrible game.
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>>388405717
>one arm
>that jump
looks like it was based on Artorias desu
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>>388406776

>being this underage

You need to leave.
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>>388406159
I can't be the only one who started humming Shape Memory Alloys from AC1 when I opened this image
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>>388406552
You could also phase through them until very recently.
Likewise, hitting a wall at 200 km/h stops you instantly and does nothing. It doesn't even make a bump sound like a bumper car would, let alone a giant robot slamming itself against the wall.

It's a budgetary game made by a bunch of retards and nothing more.
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>>388407052
isn't it going for several years now? you would think they would have added features but i guess they focus on the pay shop?
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>>388406739
You're not wrong.
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>>388407154

No, they've just focused on the things that actually matter, like actual fucking gameplay, not autistic nitpicking.

Anon is a sperg.
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>>388402598
The 'Goog. Mad bell bottoms and it actually outperforms the gundam.
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>>388407154
Yeah, they tried a few things, fucked them all up.
By now, they made peace with the fact that as long as they keep providing the old men with Gundam-ified pictures of the shit they dug up on Sarna, they can keep charging 60 dollars for each and keep on going with their jobs at least until the population dies of old age.
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>>388407507
Makes me sad it'll never be the Mechwarrior game we deserve. They're even making a new Singleplayer game in the same engine. Can't imagine how shit that will be.
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>>388402598
It's kind of goofy, but I really like the funnels. And I love the idea of its arms being able to be either sabers or blasters.
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>>388407628
>They're even making a new Singleplayer game in the same engine.

It's not even the same engine. Tackling new engines usually leads to disasters even with good developers. Can't imagine the shitshow with PGI at the helm.

Honestly, I'd be happier if they announced the project fell flat and they're never going to make it. It's literally the next C&C4/ME:Andromeda in the making.

At least the Battletech game people seem to be more competent. They're still fucking up far too much to ever be given a real AAA game to create but at least it's not the galactic-proportioned fail circus that is the MW:O team.
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Clunky and realistic all day erry day. It is easy to make weeb mecha that are basically just Sephiroth psssh nothin personnel kid but a gear with weight that feels real is something else.
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ones with boobs
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>love mechs

>not a single decent mech game or anime has ever been made

Life is suffering.
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>>388407956
That's gotta be one of the most stupid and impractical powered armor designs i've ever seen.

>let's make a big, heavy exoskeleton with a fucking autocannon
>but put barely any armor on it so the pilot dies from shrapnel, and also give it an idiotic leg design that doesn't let the hips move forward enough to do simple actions like climbing steps without hitting the stupid waist bits


You "MUH GRITTY REALISM"-fags are fucking retards, you don't know shit about robotics, weapons, or armored vehicle design so you think shit like your pic is the pinnacle of practicality when it's only the illusion of practicality.
fucking brainlets.

pic related is by no means perfectly designed but it can do everything that piece of shit can and more, without it's pilot bleeding to death from the first frag grenade shot in it's direction.
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>>388408563
>lying on the internet
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Junkers all the way.

The only "mecha" I like that has nimble design is Evangelion.
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>>388402598
Claiming best girl
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>>388409185
>not posting actual best girl
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>>388409239
Zeta has a retarded face and cannot be best girl/
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Fuck you I liked it.
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>>388409390

I liked it for waifus. Mecha designs suck balls in that manga/anime.
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>>388404692
Damn that's cool.
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>>388409239
>Is a slut
>Best girl
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>>388408925
The mech is realistic because the purpose is to carry things around and not combat. The gun is here for defense but it's not a forefront unit. Mechs being used in anything but infrastructure are not realistic anyways.
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>>388409745
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Female super robots are cool. Especially when designed by Obari.
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>>388409872
>that design

The poor fucker is a manlet with 12 extra vertebrae, what the fuck?
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>>388409950
How do you know he is a manlet? How do you know where exactly his torso begins when his leggins are clearly pretty stuffed?
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>>388409872
>fucking 500 pound autocannon+shit-tons of ammo
>"for defense"
>super realistic

Kys yourself you brainlet retard
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>>388410230
If we accept his lower body as accurate, then his femur is proportioned fairly well to his fibula and tibia, but not his head, nor his torso or arms. In fact if we take his head as a measurement then his lower body is roughly 3 heads (should be 3.5-4.5 heads for average male height). His torso also isn't proportional to his head or lower torso, in fact it appears a full head too tall, and his arms are almost a head too long. He's janky as fuck. His legs indicate manlet size, but his torso is way too elongated.

Now if he does have really low hanging pants and padding, then his arms are even worse given their length, and his fibula and tibia are practically the size of a dwarf. Either way he's fucked up.
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>>388409912
Honey select?
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>>388410496
Yeah. He can be deployed in the field as a support unit in the back carrying ammo and other equipment while having means to defend himself.

>>388410632
So he can be disproportionate but still no manlet.
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>>388410692
Yeah, made it a couple of months ago when the party dlc came out and not touched it since, I should revisit this character
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Mecha are shit tier
Caseal master race
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>>388399610
Dat be lookin' like a propah mekk
BUT
ain't 'avin' enouf dakka an' I ain't seein' any choppy on it
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>>388411408
>addtext.com
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your reminder that Gundam Versus western open betatest with all suits is next week starting 2nd september
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>>388411753
>ps4

lol
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>>388410853
>weapons five inches from the ground where they can't hit shit, firing from unstable arms when they could just be in small turrets on the torso or integrated directly into the torso but that would't work thanks to the torso having a stupid overly complicated joint design that can't rotate 360 instead of just one horizontal rotation ring and one joint to lean forward and backward
>shoulders and hips ridiculously wide for a retarded gimmick with the soldier for a dick when that faggot's little pod could much more practically be mounted on the back so the whole thing doesn't have to be so wide
>assuming that soldier as an average sized man, that robot is wider than a fucking main battle tank, so it might as well just be a tank since it certainly doesn't have the advantage of fitting through tighter spaces like urban environments or forests
>feet to tiny, ground pressure would be totally shit

Jesus christ, this deviant art realism-fag shit is so stupid, these talentless fucks are so afraid of just making something with a simple, sensical humanoid design that in any way resembles "ur dumb anime space samurai" that they make the most bafflingly retarded mecha designs ever, then dipshits like you just eat this shit up and claim it's the pinnacle of realism.

Kill yourself, please, just remove your stupidity from the world.
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>>388409334
>Zeta has a retarded face

The face is literally the only cool part of Zeta's design.
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>>388412041
Again carry unit

Umad
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>>388411991
>like mecha games
>don't have consoles, especially ps4
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>>388410853
Stop posting, everything you say is retarded
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>>388412582
name 10 good mecha games exclusive to ps4
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>>388412649
nigga, that's hard to name period regardless of systems, especially now when mecha games basically dead aside of bamco.
Still, if disregard exclusivity - SRW OG MD, SRW V, SD Gundam GGG, Gundam Breaker 3, Gundam Versus.
Sure, you can play most of them on Vita, but they kinda nicer on bigger screen, your call tho
no need to get console wars going. at this point I'll buy any hardware to play good mecha games needed. Just fucking make them already
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>>388412302
>carry unit

it's barely carrying anything.

why mount guns on it like that if it's just supposed to carry them to give them to someone else? it doesn't seem to be carrying anything else besides the soldier.

Have you ever heard of a fucking truck?
The faggot in the ugly "so futuristic!" uniform and the guns can just go in a truck, you can fit many times as much shit in a truck that costs about 1/100th as much as that stupid god damn robot.


If your reason for liking these terrible designs was "because they look cool" that'd be fine, you'd still have shit taste but that'd be ok, but the fact that you genuinely believe this shit to be super realistic and practical makes you a grade A fucking idiot.
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>>388412905
that's the point though, 5 of those are on ps3 or vita so why bother getting a ps4 for 1 game?
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>>388402678
that movie was so bad trash
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>>388403709
How exactly are those puny magazines supposed to hold 2100 bullets?
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>>388413067
well fair point. I find them better experience on PS4, but to each their own.
Most likely there will be no more Vita or PS3 ports from now on.
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>>388403670
>Mechs in the novels are about as limber as anything from anime
Bull to the shit.
You are either reading the wrong novels, or watching the wrong anime.
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>>388413427
that's true but for the time being I don't think it's worth investing into a ps4, perhaps a few years later
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>>388413672
the later the better I agree. That works for every system out there.
I just bought it for Disgaea 5 initially anyway. Having English Asia releases completely validated it further for me
new srw fucking when
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"Realsim" is a very overrated design choice. Because for a lot of people realistic = boring
that being said, shit like >>388409912
that tries to make the mech look like a giant human is dumb as shit. As always Japan is afraid of stepping outside their comfort zone.
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>>388399447
Clunky.
Mechwarrior 3 is the best Mech game (single player) to this day.
Prove me wrong.
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>>388402617
>Also the second to last boss is fantastic.

>Voodoo 1, Viper's on station. Your journey ends here, pilot. The skies belong to me. Nowhere to run. Nowhere to hide.
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>>388399447
>clunky-looking and "realistic" but nimble
true patrician mecha choice

also -- a super specific point, but the mech has to have robot hands that hold the weapon. no built-in weapon systems on the arms; that ruins it.
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>>388413386
I think you have the 120mm mags confused for the 36mm ones. The 36mm mags are the horizontal blocks behind the 120mm mags. You know, like the gun it was based on.
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>>388412914
It's carrying enough. Don't be mad.
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>>388414514
It's not Front Mission 3.
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>>388415973

>Front Mission 3

Yeah nah, it's a great game, but between the terrible fucking protagonist/writing/story, hilariously unbalanced and broken skill system, infinitely grindable simulation mode and overly drawn out campaigns, it's no where near the calibre of something like Mechwarrior 3.

Front Mission 3 is easily the best the Japs have ever delivered on the mech front though.
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Where's the best place to put the cockpit in giant mecha/mechs? Are there any series that employ hiding the cockpits to prevent pilot deaths?
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>>388416534
Only torso has enough room unless you want to go xbox hueg.
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>>388416534
Cockpits are placed at the cock, of course.
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>>388399447
Timber Wolf master race coming through.
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>>388416689
what if you're cut in half? do you use the legs to flee?
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>>388417002
that's madcat tho
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>>388415828
nigger are you telling me 36mm and 120mm use the same "gun"?
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>>388417168
Do you not see the two barrels?
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>>388416534

>Where's the best place to put the cockpit in giant mecha/mechs?

The same place you put a cockpit in a drone.
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>>388403709
I love how Muv-Luv mechs look
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