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If Ace Combat 7 does well and they do remakes of the holy trinity, what moments are you looking forward to the most?

>Comona with modern graphics and a shit ton more planes flying around, making you feel like the furball is actually hectic
>the invasion of Yuktobania having more than three fucking tanks
>Excalibur being replaced with the version from Infinity
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An HD collection would be fine with me. A remake would change too much.
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>>388392450
JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING HD COLLECTION ALREADY YOU KIKES
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For me, it's my boy Gryphus getting the game he deserves. X is a decent game, especially for a portable title, but it can become a great game that rivals the Holy Trinity if it was on a powerful system and had controls that made sense.
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I'd kill for shattered skies with 7's grafix. All these years and still my favorite game to play.
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>>388392564
NEVER EVER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssSG5kwSSG4
;_;
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>>388392450
Imagine Megalith with modern graphics
>meteors raining around you as you fight the last of the Yellow Squadron with latin chanting in the background and the fate of the world in the balance
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7 won't top this moment.
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>>388392550
But imagine the cloud tech anon. Imagine the heat from the Morgan's Laser cutting the clouds of the snow storm evaporating lines though it due to the heat.

It'd be neat.
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>>388393076
>that feel I never understood why people liked this mission
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>>388392450
The one gane that deserves a proper remake is AC3 since its the only gane that got fucked in the ass in the west due normalfags.
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>>388393182
The music, the scale, saving the world but being erased from history.
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>>388393076
>using the F-22 in Ace Combat 5 when you've got the F-14
Absolutely disgusting
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Canon planes
>3 - Super Flanker
>4 - F-22
>5 - F-14
>0 - F-15
>6 - Rafale M (I know the cover plane is an F-15 but Emmeria is basically Strangreal France and the Rafale makes more sense)
>X - F-22
If you use anything other than these planes when you play, you are just another shitter.
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>starting a new game in AC4
>yfw "4 YEARS AFTER THE PLANET FALL"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsxGOO6BYGU
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>>388393739
>Rafale
>not Mirage
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>>388392584
That fucking song when you fight the alect squadron.

>Will trap nemesis in the cross fire!
>Alect 3 down, hes too quick!
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what are the best AC titles ?
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>>388394160

All of them. Except Assault Horizon.
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>>388394160
All the Strangereal ones. Realstrange and Real World AC games suck.
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>>388393739
>not using The Game in AC3
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>>388394160
Yes.
Ignore AH, tho, and other spinoffs-ish shits.
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>>388393739
Don't forget 2. The cover plane for that is the XFA-27. Good luck getting it so you can do your canon playthrough.
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What's Bamcos obsessiion with Falken type planes? Almost every single Ace Combat had it and even 3 had the Night Raven which was basically a future Falken.
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>>388393076
>A short dogfight followed by 4 targets you kill in less than a minute

Infinity had the right idea by giving the SOLG lasers and having the enemy squadron bounce you right in the middle of taking it down
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And yet, what is a nation?
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>>388394572
I hope we get a trilogy remake with the bosses taking inspiration from Infinity. Infinity did the bosses right.
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>>388394682
<<Can you see any borders from here? What have borders given us?>>
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Why is she so perfect?
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>Blaze is stuck with her yandere ass nagging constantly about world peace
Press F to pay respects
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Wouldn't this maneuver kill the pilot?
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>>388395184
>The nation-state idea will survive long after you
Whats the point?
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>>388395551
wouldn't 100 missiles not fit in a plane?
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>>388394350
>Don't forget 2. The cover plane for that is the XFA-27
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>>388395551
Depends on the speed
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>>388395551
No?
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>>388395551
Did you miss the part of the trailer where scientist dude is talking about the special suit still needing work to let the plane fly to its full potentisl and Mihal needing a respirator and limping out of the cockpit? I also assume that the AI ball in the navigator seat has something to do with it.
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>>388395590
You can't have borders if you don't have a world.
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>>388395707
At the speed they're going in the trailer. He basically does a human speed backflip with his jet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgKtk73nfEE

>>388395769
I'm guessing we play as this orange winged plane?
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>Moddable PC Ace Combat never ever
>Vector Thrust could fill the void but no one's modding it and the dev is MIA
It hurts.
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Ulysses 1994XF04 is the coolest plot device to happen to Ace Combat, fight me.
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>>388395665
>In Ace Combat X: Skies of Deception, Phoenix appears in the special mission "Operation X" as one of the Ace Combat 2 legacy aces in an XFA-27, along with the "Z.O.E." ADF-01.
Also check out the silhouette on the soundtrack cover
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>>388395894
Trigger is part of the spare squadron so the orange winged plane is probably going to be an enemy.
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>holy trinity

So 04 and Zero, but what's the third one?
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>>388396025
Plenty of chances for people on the radio to gawk at his magic powers. Then they're taken away so you can actually beat him.
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post underrated songs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1feWsXW3uU&index=12&list=PLsJuUxOSVd74rUM7lGmqlKd1vdShd0F8-
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>>388396161

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IS0J_LY7_s
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>>388395894
No the Mihal (orange winged plane's pilot) is looking like he's gonna be the main rival.
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>>388392564
EVER NEVER
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>>388395551
No.
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>>388395996
So the "cover plane" is only the cover plane on the OST of the remake while the actual cover has a Su-35 and the remake had an F-22?
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>>388396324
>too stupid to use 4chan

Leave.
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>Trigger is Spare 15
So will he go up because of feats or because of his squadmates constantly dying?
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>>388392450
A collaberation between Project Aces and Kawamori.
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>>388396526
Mihal will probably kill them all.
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>>388396548
fug I misread the OP. I still want this though.
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I'd like an Ace Combat: Area 88 spin-off some day.
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>>388396161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coGVpUFf9LY&index=8&list=PLL8LTXpdPwE732d5p_1MQRTwclaSIrexR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X9RtdgD6N4&index=2&list=PLL8LTXpdPwE732d5p_1MQRTwclaSIrexR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUNq3Fju5YA
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>>388396729
>Contact
>underrated
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>>388396161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrss4Xx5Lu8
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>tfw the fictional superplane 7 is a Super Starfighter
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The only problem I have with AC7 is that it feels like it's leaning too hard on the holy trinity nostalgia.

A war starting with no one knowing who actually triggered it pushed by a warmongering leader. The territories looking like AC4 on Erusea and ACZero on Osea. The SU ace with special wings versus a white stripe ace.

Even the super fortresses are getting a little too Arkbird-like.
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>>388397014
>leaning too hard on the holy trinity nostalgia
that's why I'm getting it
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>>388397014
Maybe it's meant as an apology for making Assault Horizon.
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>>388397014
I fail to see how any of that is a negative.
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>>388397153
I'm getting tired of you faggots bitching about that game. It's been over half a decade. Time to move on.
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>>388397153
>>388397090
>>388397186
They already did the trinity wank in infinity though. Going too far in the opposite direction just makes it a soulless retread hitting the same beats we've already danced to.

Having some of it is fine; keeping strangereal history coherent and all. However I'd much rather they tied it in to X and 3 than do 4/5/Zero all over again.
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>>388397014
sounds good to me
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>>388397014
I kind of agree with you. It's nice to see homages to the old games, but I am worried that it will cut down on creativity.
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>>388397014
Mission design and quality mechanics will matter more than cutscenes and aesthetics 6 months after launch.
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>>388396161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEoq11C4qd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YWSiyxRP00
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am I the only one that thinks 3 deserves a remake first before the trinity?
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The people that want the previous player characters to return are the worst.
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>>388397258
We need to remember history, lest we be doomed to repeat it.
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In other news, Project Wingman got a Unreal Dev Grant. Personally looking forward what he can do with money now.

https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/epic-games-awards-over-200-000-in-new-unreal-dev-grants
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>>388396548
>>388396642
Already kind of did happen.
http://acecombat.wikia.com/wiki/ASF-X_Shinden_II
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>>388397532
Stop shilling your unrelated bullshit.
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>>388397532
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>>388397589
>unrelated
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>>388393076
Funny cause 4 and Zero already did. 27+ was the most underwhelming final stage ever in an AC game, you literally shoot down 10 planes and then the rest of the time you fire at a falling satellite that doesn't move or return fire (and it ends in less than 2 minutes).
Shit's fucking retarded.
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>>388393739
>Emmeria is basically Strangreal France
Lmao, since when?
Fuck your Rafale, I'll stick with the F-15E.
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>>388398042
>it ends in less than 2 minutes

It would if half the mission wasn't flying in a straight line over fuck all.
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>>388395909
Ever tried Project Wingman?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikmAItVpg0g
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>>388398187
>half the mission wasn't flying in a straight line over fuck all
Oh yeah thanks for making me remember another reason I dislike 27+.
And by less than 2 minutes, I was refering to the duration of time you actually fight the SOLG, not the whole mission.
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>>388397746
>thread is about a hypothetical remake of some Ace Combat games
>"oh guys look at m- i mean this cool indie game!

Fuck off. You're so transparent it hurts.
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>>388398368
Someone doesn't post in Ace Combat threads it seems. You're so new it hurts.
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>>388398547
>i shill at every opportunity so that makes it okay!

I look forward to seeding your game.
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>>388398221
Heard about it recently, haven't actually tried it yet. Are there plans to make it moddable and/or include a mission editor?
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>>388398547
>surprised over assblasted anons like >>388398368
i mean, this is /v/ we are talking about
:^)
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>>388398609
Okay <<buddy>> but try to hide how new you are next time. At the very least.
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>>388398663
Not sure actually, I just realized you were talking about an "Moddable" AC game.
Sorry about that. But if you haven't tried it yet, it's actually pretty good and plays very similarly to the PS2 games.
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>>388395894
Kinda though the orange plan was completely A.I controlled, didn't know the older man was the pilot
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>>388398725
I guarantee I'm older than you faggo.
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>>388398858
The old man is either teaching the ai or going half and half Guld style
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>>388398916
>muh age
you sure don't act like it
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>>388398356
You can actually destroy it even faster than that.
https://youtu.be/akQ6poxyG0k?t=450
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>>388399017
Yeah I'm aware of the other way, I just mean on average, it takes about 2 to 3 minutes to destroy the SOLG in the normal way.
It's so FUCKING boring. Megalith and Zero were much more exciting and better overall final missions.
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>>388398969
>that hypocrisy

WEW
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>>388398042
>>388398356
8 planes, who are supposed to be top Belkan aces, yet fly straight into XMAAs like complete retards.
5 is amazing on as a first experience, but the mission design comes across as cinematics and storytelling as a priority, and gameplay as an afterthought.
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>>388399149
>5 is amazing on as a first experience

Is this why it's so overrated? A bunch of nostalgiafags that only ever played it once and never touched it again?
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>>388396150
5
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>>388399149
>8 planes, who are supposed to be top Belkan aces, yet fly straight into XMAAs like complete retards.

Well, yeah, but that's more of a problem with the Ace Combat AI in general. It's kind of shit.
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>>388398831
Yeah, the gameplay does look good, and it'll probably be quite fun, but the moddable aspect is what I was mostly focusing on. I just really like moddable games, and I'm always looking for good ones in every genre. Vector Thrust also does the gameplay quite well, which makes it all the more disappointing that its modding tools aren't getting more use.
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Goodnight, sweet destruction engine.
Your devs never gave you a proper game to shine in.
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>>388399218
I've replayed it twice this year. Zero too. I think 5 is the better game.
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>>388399149
I agree, the missions in AC5 is so gimmicky and more invested in "muh story" than the actual gameplay.
>>388399218
This.
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>>388399317
How could you think that when 5 has worse characters, worse villains, a worse plot, worse mission design, and fucking grinding?
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>>388398042
I remember this being quite fun, mostly because back then I didn't understand English, so I had no idea what I was supposed to do to hit the targets, so I simply shot the damn thing for 3 minutes straight, and I must say, avoiding the sun panels and the 4 pillars was quite fun, I pulverized the solg until it died, of course after I replayed it a few years ago I realize you can simply hit the targets and avoid all the junk, I did it once, never again, of took the magic away, regardless, zero final mission is miles better
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>>388399417
I love the narrative in 5 and how it gives each mission proper context. I'd disagree with you on the mission design point and villains and characters are largely irrelevant.
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>>388399272
Yeah don't know much about games that play like AC AND are moddable. Looks like you might have to wait some more. :/
But I have high hopes for the dev of PW, especially after getting that grant from Epic Games.
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>>388399547
AC5 has missions that can be rendered unwinnable. Zero doesn't.

>villains and characters are largely irrelevant.

You'd be right if you didn't spend the majority of your time with the game listening to them.
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>>388399149
>>388399249
It does make me wonder about how real air combat is apparently BVR 99% of the time, and it actually works. You'd think that if your attacker is so far away, that just gives you a *lot* of time to do something about the missile, such that BVR shouldn't really work. I'm sure real fighter pilots aren't flying straight into real-life XMAAs, and they have flares and chaff on top of that, so how does it work?
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>>388399654
>unwinnable missions
What
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>>388399654
>unwinnable missions
Like?
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>>388399667
Real life missiles maneuver a LOT better than real life fighter jets. Imagine if EVERY missile had AC04 QAAM level homing ability.
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>>388399654
>AC5 has missions that can be rendered unwinnable

Which ones exactly? I remember Closure coming close, if you're playing on the harder difficulties and spend most of your ammo on secondary targets.
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The worst part of AC5 is that every plane can only carry one special weapon, so you have to buy an entirely new plane if you want to use a bomb instead of an anti-ship missile. That was really weird.
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>>388399654
Don't know what you mean by "unwinnable missions".
Other than that, I agree with everything else and think 5 is inferior to Zero (and 4 to an extent).
The only things I liked about 5 more than other games are that there is a large roster of planes along with their respective variants as well as how you can command (although poorly) THREE wingmen, which was really cool and felt like you were part of a team.
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>>388399780
>>388399803
>>388399859

Desert Arrow/Lightning. Removing the ability to rearm mid-mission is completely indefensible.
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>>388399925
How do they become unwinnable? If you waste all of your ammunition like a retard?
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>>388399808
real life fighter jets only get to carry 6 bullshit win button super missiles so its perfectly balanced.
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so which country has the best / worst fighter jets?
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>>388399889
I feel like that restriction was just to force the 'grinding for upgraded planes' mechanic, which was an excuse to add variants of planes as 'new planes' to buff up the plane count.
Remember that one of the Ridge Racer games advertised itself as having 321 cars, but really it was just 45 unique cars, and 276 palette swaps with slightly different stats.
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>>388399808
And I'm guessing they're also not easily spoofed, so you can't just drop a countermeasure when they're still miles away?
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>>388399960
>waste all your ammunition
nigga, there is barely enough ammo for the entire mission.
i wouldn't say they are unwinnable tough.
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>>388399925
>rearm mid-mission
have you tried wrapping your pussy in athletic tape?
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>>388399667
Real life air combat almost never happens.
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>>388399925
git gud
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>>388400063
...for now.
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>>388399960
It's a "score X amount of points" missions with more targets than available ammo, and then after waiting the full 15 minutes, they throw more at you.
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>>388400045
Never once have I run out of ammo in 5. The only time I ever came close was the first time I played Journey Home, which worked fantastically as it made me incredibly desperate at the end which was the point of the mission.
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>>388400112
this twisted game is starting to get on my nerves.
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>>388400045
>nigga, there is barely enough ammo for the entire mission.

I don't get it, you just need 10,000 points to finish it. I usually have 22k+ towards the end, even wíthout a dedicated bomber.
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>>388400019
And since you also need to buy planes for your wingmen, that means a *lot* of grinding if you want them to have certain weapons. Or if you just like to have everyone flying the same plane because you're OCD like me.
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>>388400112
Yeah, but that doesn't change the way that any talk on how real air combat between modern jets works is almost purely theoretical.
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I hope I can just play co op missions with my buds on pc.
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>>388400156
>>388400203
>over 90 targets in a single mission
>even after hitting the requirement for the objective, you have to wait the full 15 minutes before anything happens

Hitting the objective is easy, and with all the time left over of course players are going to try to kill everything.
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>>388400297
I would be very surprised if there isn't a coop mode in 7. It would be just like Infinity, except it won't ask for fuel every fucking mission.
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>>388400203
Not him, but he is right. It happened to me few times too. If you shoot every target and I mean everything, even if you don't miss anything and waste ammo, then after mission update when you have to shoot down the bombers, you will have zero ammunition left not even machine gun.
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>>388400112
Well, the thing is that if two countries with comparable air forces were fighting each other, they might just use nukes before it even gets to that point. That's one of the reasons why they specifically designed Strangereal to have very, very few nuclear weapons.
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>>388392584
Mein negro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAjuTkZ_pQQ&t
I thought the controls were pretty great honestly.
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>>388399417
>and fucking grinding
If you aren't a casual shit, you should be S-ranking or at least A ranking your first tries. You should never need to grind for money.
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>>388399925
>>388399960
>>388400045
>>388400148
I wouldn't call the AC5 desert missions unwinnable, but it's bad design to put up way more targets than the ammo you have available, then throw a curveball of extra enemies right at the end of the time limit with no warning. Other missions are much shorter, so running low on ammo is only a concern if you have shit accuracy.
Personally, I think gun ammo should always be infinite, even on higher difficulties, but they may need to balance gun damage to compensate.
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>>388400509
I think that anon meant grinding to fill the kill gauges to unlock planes. That being said, most of the good planes can by unlocked via mission progression. If you clear the campaign, but never fill a kill gauge, you only really miss the F-15 and Flanker families, most of which have alternatives.
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>>388400509
You're not grinding for money. You're grinding for "exp" to unlock new planes.
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>>388400509
its not money dipshit, its grinding out the killrate for planes which takes forever to do
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Is Spare squad yet another Belkan aggressor squad? That be cool though Osea has a very poor track record for not having their squadrons defect
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>>388400408

I once got overzealous about killing everything, and ran out of ammo with two targets left. Had to use the wingmen to kill them, and it was torture watching them just circle the fuckers until they got lucky after what felt like a week.

Never had I hated the awful friendly wingman AI more.
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>>388400642
>5 is about Belka taking revenge on both Osea and Yuktobania
>Zero mentions Yuktobania maybe once
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>>388400642
People are speculating that Spare Squadron are a "Penal Squadron". That they are either traitors/deserters or are captured Erusean pilots.
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>>388400686
Yes, that's exactly how I finished in these scenarios too. Fucking nerve wrecking, praying they shoot down targets before the timer runs out.
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>>388399149
I've been playing it for the first time and I've been underwhelmed, the game feels like a chore compared to AC4
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>>388400764
My one gripe about Zero is that Yuktobania was never mentioned or shown doing anything at all.
We would have to assume they provided support to Osea in terms of supplies and military equipment.
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>>388400764
Yeah bugged me to. Maybe they were fighting on a front that Cipher wasn't fighting on?
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>>388400764
I feel like Belka just used the Yukes as a proxy to start shit with Osea, since any other country would get steamrolled. Imagine Belka mainpulating a Galm-less Ustio into fighting Osea.

>>388400686
My 'favorite' experience with AC5 wingmen
>Low on ammo during First Flight (forgot that the F-5E has limited ammo)
>A bomber is flying about
>Float behind it, and wait for wingmen to form up
>Set wingmen to attack
>They all sit behind it and fire machine guns, missing 90% of their shots on a target that is making zero evasive maneuvers
>Fucking Nagase fires a missile which just sails RIGHT PAST THE BOMBER
>40 seconds of this shit
>"Fuck it, I'll do it myself"
>Fire missile
>Entire squadron suddenly fires two missiles each
>Combined, we fire seven missiles into one bomber that was only one missile away from death
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>>388401020
I'm quite certain I remember either Bartlett or Pops remark in 5 that the Balkan war brought Osea and Yuktobania together when dismaying at the outbreak of war.
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>>388401020
aaaaaaaaahhhhhh bulazu sugoi
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>>388400905
>>388400981
They're on another continent. Maybe they just decided it didn't concern them.
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>>388400000
Wonderful quints
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>>388400000
>>388400000
hecked
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>>388399808
and also could lock on from like 5 miles
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>>388400000
>5 ZEROes
OH SHIT.
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>>388400000
>5 zeroes
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>>388400000
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>>388400000
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>>388400000
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>>388401606
>>388401649
>>388401962
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>>388399139
You must be legally retarded, to not be able to see past how much of a cunt you are.
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>>388392450
>playing arcade shooter trash
>playing WEEBSHIT arcade shooter trash
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>>388403000
Yeah. What of it?
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>>388400772
Nah m8. One of the trailers has the brown haired seen some shit pilot talking to the brown chick of burn osea to the ground about a mission where they went off orders in a storm.

The demo mission from E3 also had you as Trigger flying normal Osea colors.
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>>388403000
>Hating fun jet fighter adventures
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>thread has devolved into samefagging shitposting and /b/-tier nonsense in an effort to keep it alive

These threads are so comfy during the week. Sad to see a portion of the fanbase is this retarded/shitty.
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>>388403979
I just beat the first mission of Fires of Liberation an hour ago, is there anything I need to know about as I play like branching story paths or anything?
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>>388404073
6, right? No branching paths at all, and I don't recall any gotcha moments where you are forced to use the same plane for multiple missions like in 5.
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I just noticed that Project Wingman is using the same composer who did the music for Vector Thrust. That's interesting.
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>>388404073
There are no branching missions paths, but there are "choose your objective" type deals like Zero, except you make your choice during gameplay rather than in the briefing.
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>>388404073
SAAM's will wreck all enemy aircraft as long as you can keep them in them in the targeting circle. If the missile misses on the first pass, it will go around for a second try as long as you keep the target in the circle. Enemies can go out of the circle after you fire a missile, just make sure you get them back in the circle within a few seconds.
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>>388404227
That sounds awesome.
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>>388403469
The E3 mission is the third mission in the game thus you haven't been assigned to the penal squadron yet.
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>>388400000
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Post your favourite briefing music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1UL3IH4OAM
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>>388406585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDe5VEdq57A
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Off topic but anyone have that [SPANISH GUITAR INTENSIFIES] image?

Much appreciated
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>Arsenal Bird shoots a million rockets at you
>They don't actually target you but are dumb fired
I was genuinely disappointed
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>>388406585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6yseO7f4w
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>>388407139
>we'll never get AC3 tier OST because AC refuses to go into the future
ACX had a hint of it but it wasn't enough, I would pay good money to have an Ace Combat game for once happen far into the future instead of contemporary times.
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>>388407247
well we're getting there, maybe just one more game unless they decide to go backwards now
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Well the Director knows about it, at least
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>>388407132
Might just be the demo build. They are notorious for being babby mode.
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>>388407338
Going into the past would go against everything AC stands for.
We are gonna get 50 different games based on nations that didn't have a War/Game yet before they touch the future since it might alienate parts of the fanbase with "original" airplanes.
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>>388398042
I remember blindly playing through 4 a couple of years ago where it got all ominous in the final mission when going through the last tunnel, how the music was cut off, and how they waited until the last possible second to open the hatches. I legitimately thought they were going to go for a tragic end for Mobius 1 with that. I was legitimately impressed at that presentation
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>>388407120
this one?
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whats the appeals of this series? i played it once back in the days on my pirated ps1 and it was shit
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>>388408072
Nah. It's an AC version of this, only with Larry "YO BUDDY" Foulke.
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>>388408248
>whats the appeals of this series?
Lots of cool planes, fun combat, entertaining and memorable stories and characters, great music, interesting setting.

>i played it once back in the days on my pirated ps1 and it was shit
The PS2 games are far better than the PS1 games. I played AC2 just recently, and I felt the difference immediately. For one thing, I can actually hit things with guns in the newer games, while it was damn near impossible in AC2.
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>>388408248
- over-the-top story/plot
- surprisingly good voice acting
- variety of planes
- longevity (multiple play-throughs w/ different planes, if you're into that sort of thing)
- spectacle (cluster-fuck dogfights, bombing missions, Super Structures, landscape / geography)
- Planes handle differently (this is fucking minor but I love it)
- music is excellent
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I want yukikaze planes
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>>388393739
I always wondered why Apalis isn't ACX's canon plane.
It's implied to be an Aurelia-developed fighter, really different from the rest of ACX's special planes that are either established superplanes, or Neucom (Forneus and Fregata) or Fenrir (it and Cariburn)-like new developments, it's availible in the very beginning and is pretty mediocre there, and is compatible with the most tuning parts (which is the big new feature in X) so it can compete with late-game planes when you get the parts. Moreover, Xi is about Falco squadron testing these planes, so Aurelia canonically has access to them. It'd be perfect, especially so that Gryphus doesn't become bootleg Moebius.
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>>388410069
f-22 wank

I used apalis as my first plane for the whole playthrough, best plane
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>>388410857
>f-22 wank
This is the worst, even 2's remake features the F-22 on the cover instead of the old Su-35.
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>>388392450
I don't think remakes are necessary. I don't even think a HD collection is in order. The time already passed for that, I'd rather keep my pressure sensitive controls than get a bump in resolution.
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>>388411662
Pressure sensitive controls are cancer and kill accuracy.
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BURN OSEA TO THE GROUND
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>>388408248
Ace Combat didn't start to become good until AC3.
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>>388413669
Even then, only the JP version.
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>>388413669
you mean AC2, it didn't have a good storyline yet but the good gameplay started from 2
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>>388410857
>>388411070
Claptors need to fuck off from Ace Combat games
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>>388413464
FUCK YOU ERUSEA WILL FALL
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>>388413798
Yeah but AC3 unified both. HAWX is a good alternative to Ace Combat from a gameplay standpoint alone and that you can mod it as much as you want (the Yukikaze Mod is pretty cool) but the story is worthless which makes the game a chore.
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So let me get this straight...

Big ass meteorite hits the planet, all the world gets fucking insane and just hoobidy doobidy full major fuck all wars at each other and somehow cannot go on a single year without having world war like scenario, constant wars to the point there is no nation that doesn't think about wars and all of these wars are just "HURR DURR I WANTS TO ATTACK BECAUSE I FEELS LIKE IT HUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEE!!!!!" And all of this to the point that a major governmental change happens to were a large corporation company basically just magically buys the entire worlds and does away nations and replaces the nations with just corporate governance from now on which makes wars no longer a recurrence and nations stop fucking killing each other because there are no more nations but corporations.

Did i miss anything?.......

Earth is more peaceful than strangereal.
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>>388414140
War pretty much works the same as wars on Earth. Nations don't go just "Hurr Durr I want war" but in response to other provocations or in Belkas case getting teabagged by Osea after Strangereals WW2.

>And all of this to the point that a major governmental change happens to were a large corporation company basically just magically buys the entire worlds and does away nations and replaces the nations with just corporate governance from now on which makes wars no longer a recurrence and nations stop fucking killing each other because there are no more nations but corporations.
Instead of a war between a shit ton of nations you end up up having two rivaling corporations bickering over supremacy which is arguably even more dangerous since you split the world in basically less factions making actual wars even more devastating.
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>>388414140
Funny enough earth in our world is alot more peaceful than strangereal's world but ultra boring as fuck.

You don't have to worry about wars much on earth because everyone is too busy killing themselves.
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>>388414140
>>388414553
Isn't there an end to the corporation 1984 brave new world grip on strangereal so that the world get their nations back or is that permanent?
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>>388414725
Nope it's permanent
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>>388414725
No one knows since earth is peaceful and rapidly advancing into the future with said Corporations leading the technological advancement, the "Corporate War" in AC3 was just a simulation and only existed to murder the shit out of Abyssal Dision in the Electrosphere. There's no reason yet why corporation should be disbanded, since they are responsible for a 20 year long peace.
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>tfw knowing they will never make a electrosphere universe ace combat
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>>388414937
You best believe in the Electrosphere.

You are in it.
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>still no exact date
>"2018" could mean Q4
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>>388415000
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>388415042
>Q4
There wouldn't be any demos if that were the case
PUT THEM ON PSN SCAMCO REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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I love this beautiful old clunky piece of shit.
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Century series

Y/N?
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>>388392584
I think I prefer Joint Assault, it just feels better to play and has better graphics
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>>388415383
I don't like ancient Planes.
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>>388406585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4nMsOMPtVY

M O B I U S B O Y Z
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>>388417323
It's just so good god I love 04
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>>388411662
Why did they remove that from the new controller?
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>>388400000
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>>388419138
Nothing ever used it. Besides AC, the only series that I know which used it to any significant effect is MGS.
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>>388395551
its actually a controlled stall that only works with Su-27 and stuff that looks like Su-27
guess that'd be su27, mig29 and su-37
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>>388395894
Every time I see that fucking inlet on the F16 I crack up. It never gets old
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>>388419382
Yeah and it worked horribly in MGS, too.
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>>388400000
The best thing about this is that it's a 4 followed by 5 0's. On an Ace Combat PS2 trilogy thread.
Very good numbers.
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>>388415383
Anon, they already showed an F-104 in one of the trailers, so you'll have that to be happy with if they don't add anymore
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>>388419382
>Nothing ever used it.
Fuck you. They were also introduced back when racing games used X and O for accelerating and braking so they were useful there too.
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Pick a country to live in.
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>>388420443
USEA doesn't seem so bad.
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>>388420443
Ustio
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>>388420270
Damn, I thought I saw it. Guess I couldn't believe my eyes
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>>388420443
Wellow
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>people talking like they're experts on aviation because they played a fighter jet themed arcade shooter
>they unironically call it a flight simulator

Reminds me of those kids you see in youtube comments that say veterans are pussies because they don't have 12000 hours in Call of Duty so they're clearly worse.
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How do I unlock mission 8 in Assault Horizon Legacy on 3DS? I just got through Ace difficulty and I realized I was missing mission 8 on every diff.
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>>388420752
>you only play plane games and havent actually flew so you know nothing about planes
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Seems this was a long time coming.
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>>388420974
You don't actually have to fly, you just have to not act like you know everything while your only source is a game that has about as much to do with real flying as battlefield has with being a soldier.
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>>388420443
Which one is strangereal japan?
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>>388420443
Belka
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>>388420752
Show me anyone in this thread who calls ace combat a flight simulator.
Exactly not a single /v/tard calls it that, everyone knows its arcade game. So what's your point? Are You here to just shitpost?
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>>388421965
go dance with the angels mister
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>>388421965
Look at the screenshot, everybody fucking calls it that. And even if they don't, they certainly treat it like it's one.
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>>388422184
>everyone
You mean wikipaedos
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>>388421505
Eastern Usea, I think that's where Nagase says she's from in Assault Horizon Legacy
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>>388422343
I went to about 7 different forums before posting to make sure i wasn't remembering things wrong and people sure call it a flight sim a lot.
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>>388421948
delphinous series of planes were fucking great.
AC3 remake when
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>>388422184
Since when some faggot who edits wikipedia means everyone?
Are you seriously this much retarded?
Go complaint to wikipedia, and stop crying here.
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>>388422502
Surely on reddit, you can go back there
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>>388422591
>everybody who disagrees with me is reddit
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>>388422745
I am not the one who came here claiming that people here call ace combat simulator without proof. Also you said you have been on 7 different forums, so I just guessed a reddit would be one of them, you can list them here if you want, but I guess you want since you are just bullshitting you way out of your mess here.
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Soooo, why did Erusia start the war in AC4?
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>>388423176
muh too many refugees
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>>388423176
>hey guys I know your country got hit by asteroid fragments that killed millions of your people but could take these refugees since there's a huge vacancy now?
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>>388421948
I want some weird planes desu, chengdu j20 or that one weird iran faux-fighter.
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>>388423351
That plastic model Iran did? The one that was visibly hanging from wires in the "flight" footage? That'd be neat. Basically a blank slate for the dev team to do whatever they want.
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That's it, man. That's it.
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>>388423874
I mean, the devs can make whatever they want with the concept, it even claimed to have internal weapons bays in the wings.

Also pls gib Have Blue, make it a fighter and not an attacker. YF23 got in the game, so this one needs too
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>>388424208
Why did the emblem crossed out?
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>>388424391
maybe Spare Squadron designation method, them probably being a squadron of disavowed pilots having no official emblem as such so they cross out the old emblem
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>>388424391
Osean aircraft serving the Erusians in a penal squadron
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>>388424565
>>388424830
>its gonna be razgriz 2.0

fuck yes I love turning heel.
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>>388424928
Spare Squadron are serving as such under Osean Command and as such are still gonna be killing Erusians
given half a chance when they cut off during the Arsenal Bird mission you're like ordered to support the evacuation but end up as the sole survivor due to overwhelming numbers, getting blamed for their deaths and as such being disavowed and being thrown into Spare Squadron as punishment as well as being labelled 'coward' but most of Osea's brass
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>>388425143
That's quite the theory...
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>>388425684
just an idea, but anythings possible as we still have no clue about the games story aside from Erusia and Osea being at war
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>>388396548
remember that moment in macross 30 when you finally fought through the cutscenes and the menus and the dialog boxes then yanked that vf30 off the runway pointed her nose in the air and let the engine roar

only to smack into an invisible wall at altitude 500 meters?
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>>388420443
Belka, obviously.
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>>388420443
La republica Aureliana
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Ace combat three fucking sucks rhino dicks.

>only 36 missions
>no cutscenes, voices or texts
>linear as hell story

So why the fuck do you fags like that bastard game so much?
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Someone give me a list of goddies and baddies, because I'm lost.
AC4: Osea vs ??
AC5: Osea and Yuktobania vs Belka
AC0: Everyone (and Ustio) vs Belka
Is this correct?
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>>388427808
AC6 had Emmeria vs Estovakia
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>>388427791
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>>388427791
thats the American version youre playing buddy, its dog shit compared to the Japanese version as it got stripped of everything
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Just a reminder.

What went wrong?
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>>388427982
Belka
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>>388427808
AC4 was ISAF vs Erusea
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>>388427982
Maybe if they didnt treat everyone outside of Dinsmark as 2nd class citizens they wouldnt have wanted to leave
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>>388427982
ustioniggers
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>>388427982
>bankrupt yourself three or more times over on laser weapons, super planes and nuclear warheads
>get like five advances squadrons full of aces killed by two dudes in shitty planes
15 years later your squadrons are edgy 15 year olds who quote shakespear in the cockpit
belka was a failure from the start, they should just let themselves be absorbed into osea at this point
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>>388427982
Spent all their money on retarded superweapons instead of more planes
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>>388427982
they existed
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>>388428183
Fuck you lad, the Excalibur is GOAT
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>>388428183
Hey giant laser tower was cool.
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>>388420443
Emmeria, but not too north. I like the cold but I don't like it that much.
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>>388399925
I think you're misremembering and confusing "unwinnable" with "hard to get an S."
Because you had to be really conservative with your ammo in order to have at least some spare missiles for the fighter jets at the end. Even then, you'd still run out, but with enough gun ammo to carry you through on ace difficulty.
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>>388425684
Please. Tell. Me. We. Get. Revenge. On. Him...

And do we no longer get cowerds anymore or is that PERMANENT!?
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>>388428123
>t. belka
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Couple of translated interviews.

http://www.encycstra.net/blog/4gamer-interview-summary
http://www.encycstra.net/blog/dengeki-online-interview-summary
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>>388427982
arab refugees
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Will the pc version have vr as well? Or is that only ps4?
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>>388429093
The VR mode is exclusive to PSVR, so far.
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>>388429093
PS4 only.
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>>388428395
Soon brother soon.

AWACS will be tortured and murdered eventually I'm sure of it because he is nothing but a loss cause.
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>>388395551
He's one of those based pilots you occasionally see, especially in Mecha anime who pilot balls to the wall to such a degree that they're more likely to kill them selves than the enemy is because of their super maneuvers.
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>my face when playing the games in chronological order now
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>>388429205
>>388429216
That sucks
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>>388429275
you playing AC1 and 2 as well?
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>>388396658
Infinity had a crossover, honestly I'd be happy with just getting the Shin skin on the F-5 back.
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>>388428601
That mirage only has one stripe

I wonder if the number of stripes relates to what they did to get stuck into that squadron
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>>388429378
This, at the very least if you have a 3DS play the remake of 2 on there.
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Belka would've won the wars if their superweapons weren't so fragile.
Maybe build a superweapon to protect the superweapon?
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Burn Osea to the ground.
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>>388430229
Why does she look so weird?
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>>388427982
I hurt myself today
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>>388423176
Told to accept a gorrillion refugees after taking the brunt if the damage from the meteor. After everyone kept ignoring them about how they couldn't take any people and needed to rebuild, they went full fash and took over the anti-meteor railgun superweapon and took over most of the Usean continent except for North Point (Strangereal Britain).
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>>388406585
Let's take back our shattered skies
https://youtu.be/ESA_b48dH2M
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>>388430651
They were well within their rights to tell the Refugees to fuck off.

Maybe some real places should take some notes.
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>>388430651
>>388430852
Erusia did nothing wrong
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>>388430415
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>>388430229
FUCK
OSEA
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>>388430852
>hey we built these huge cannons to protect us from asteriods and make sure all our countries arent completely wiped out, any chance now its over and that we've accepted some of your people as refugees, any chance you can accept some of ours too?
>lol no our fucking superweapon now yellow best squadron megalith did nothing wrong albireo inspiration to people
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>>388408248
>whats the appeals of this series?
>ps1
That's because you need to play the PS2 games (4, 5, Zero) since those are the most memorable of the entire series.
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Will i need to play the previous games to understand the new one? Ive never played ace combat but the trailer made me hype
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This site has some cool Japanese only shit that got translated.
http://www.encycstra.net
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>>388432171
Trailer seems to be making a lot of references to the PS2 trilogy and it might bank on fan nostalgia if Infinity is anything to go by

They're good games though and you should play them anyway
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>>388432171
all the Ace Combat games are mostly disconnected lore wise, only referencing to the other stories
it helps to play the other games in release order, but it doesnt affect it too much
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>>388431430
Stay mad ISAF.
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>>388432171
The only AC game which truly needs to be played before another is 5 before Zero.
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someone please tell me at some point in the story of this game you will start to be respected and actually treated with kindness instead of being treated like a third-class shitbag?
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>>388432410
Doesn't this happen in every game?
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>>388432382
>he will never win a war
>his entire airforce is reliant upon a superweapon and a squadron that got killed by one pilot
>he builds massive genocidal super weapons in the hopes of winning that dont work
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>>388432410
Yes, by the end of the game even the bitchy AWACS who hates you and your penal squadron for some reason will most likely be sucking your dick as you fly up the space elevator or whatever, happens in most of the games
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>>388432728
Bartender's daughter is so shit! She ruined the whole game!
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Oh fuck, this thread is making me want to replay AC yet again.
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>>388432728
Don't remind me.
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>>388433183
hey anon
i heard Mobius 1 bagged the Yellows
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The journey begins
Starts from within
Things that I need to know

The song of the bird
Echoed in words
Flying for the need to fly...
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>>388433659
THOUGHTS ENDLESS IN FLIGHT
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>>388430651
>fash

You're a faggot
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>>388416828
Get aload of this colossal faggot.
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>>388430651
>fash
whats it like sucking cock everyday?
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>>388433873
>>388434094
That's literally what everyone calls them in the game you lefty shit for brains.
>inb4 hurr sure they have a royal family though
Look up fascist Italy
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AC4 is the most kino AC game
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>>388434652
>not Zero
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Do you play as the same country in every game?
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>>388434968
No, it's a different war every time. Belka usually has something to do with it.
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>>388435085
Belka always has something to do with it, its strangereal law
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>>388396312
Add 6 and I'm sold
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Faggot who haven't played AC6, AH:Legacy and ACX

OUT, OUT NOW
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>>388435518
b-but I don't own a 360
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>>388397014
>>388397014
>A war starting with no one knowing who actually triggered it pushed by a warmongering leader. The territories looking like AC4 on Erusea and ACZero on Osea. The SU ace with special wings versus a white stripe ace.
>Even the super fortresses are getting a little too Arkbird-like.
sounds like AC6 and I loved every single bit of it. Hell, I've bought xbawks just to play 6 and I regret nothing
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>You now realize thatvin ace combat 3 that corporation that took over the world is actually belka all along.
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>>388392450
Fuck remakes, just make new games.
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>>388435518
I'm currently playing ACX.

I like it so far, decent list of planes. I'm liking the Apalis even if it's straight forward for a super plane.
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>>388435694
you got to Alect Squadron yet?
probably the best mission in the game as its pure A2A with a badass OST
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>>388435518
T-The only one I haven't played is AH:Legacy I did play the original AC2 though.
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>>388435551
Go dance with the angels mister
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>>388427982
Legit answer here, they lost Strangereal WW2 to Osea, then half a century later when they were developing into a normal democratic society Osea fucked them in the ass by deliberately ruining their joint economic development project. They had to sell some of their land and let their eastern territories secede. This led to the Belkan economy crashing and a revanchist far-right party taking power.
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>>388435789
That would be playing it wrong, let Alect get to the island and fight them on the Fenrirs.

Armada on ace will have you smashing your psp/vita/emu against the wall tho.
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>>388435551
you've missed one of the most climatic moments in AC franchise:
https://youtu.be/UaN6DfrrMi4?t=516

And also no one can forget about this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiekpK5TQCc
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>>388436421
Why isn't 6 as highly regarded as the PS2 trilogy?
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>>388436103
their economy was crashing prior to the development project anyway due to their huge military spending because of Excalibur, Morgan, Avalon, XB-0 and several other huge military projects they sunk more money than they ever had into
the development project was the final nail in the coffin
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>>388436458
Most probably because it's X360 exclusive.
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Fuck. I wish there was a Ace Combat with custom-made campaigns.
Vector Thrust, why did you have to be so shit?
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>>388435789
Not yet, only played it a little yesterday was pretty busy.
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>>388436458
I recently bought a 360 just for that game. Not regretting it
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>>388436118
>i have only ever gone after Alect because i love the dog fighting more than A2G
shit
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>>388436738
I'm considering getting one for that, NGII and Bayo.
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>>388436585
Their economy was doing well in the early 80's when all the crazy projects started, then by 87 it was crashing, they let the east secede etc. In the 90's the far-right took power and restarted the military shit, probably by doing nazi germany style inflationary printing and massive foreign debt.
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Man, Belka lost a war they started and they are STILL salty as hell? The fuck?
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>>388436645
As if anyone would be willing to put in the effort for good briefings and radio stuff.
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>>388437235
afaik the right wing parties only spawned after the economy crashed, the military projects were mostly done because why not rather than intentionally preparing for invasion
after they fell into debt due to the project and Osea fucking them it was only then that the LDP appropriated them as a means of war
>if Osea bailed out Belka rather than fucking them the Belkan War would of never happened and the pure sex that is Morgan could of been widely produced
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>>388436458
The story aand characters are kinda flaccid, the music isn't quite there, some of the missions are kind of a slog and drag on too long, the flight model is a bit too easy, not that many jets to choose from.
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>>388437518
I think that was what I was saying, being in too many discussions at once is fucking my head.

But yeah, part of the blame lies with Osea although ultimately it was Belka who started the war.
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>>388436458
All previous AC games were on Sony consoles, 6 was part of the movement to jumpstart Xbox's popularity in Japan and a lot of people who were fans of the series likely didn't get a 360. Also the story is markedly worse than previous entries and there are a smaller number of both planes and missions.
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>>388437826
Smaller than Zero?
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>>388437650
imagine a world where Gault Team wasnt doomed to its fate and was able to test fly experimental fighters alongside other Osean squadrons like Sorcerer and Wizard with Osea and Belka being buddies rather than enemies
i want this comfy world
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>>388435450
>ace combat legacy: The Belkan War
>contains 0 and 5

>ace combat legacy: The Strangereal Collection
>contains 4, 6 and X
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HOW FAST IS TOO SLOW
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>>388437826
Zero has 18 missions (17 if you count Valley of Kings and Zero as the same mission) and some variations on which ace squadron you fight depending on your alignment.
6 has 15, but most of them are a lot longer since you have to complete like 2/3/4 different objectives in a majority of the missions. It's probably about even.
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>>388438276
>strangereal doesnt include 2 and 3
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>>388438417
Would you put it past them?
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>>388435589
Wait... could this be true?
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>>388437325
Oh yeah, there's that, too.
Pulling off the radio talk is hard, not even Vector Thrust "official" campaign managed to do it.
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>>388438790
Yeah. General Resource is descended from Grunder Industries which used to be called South Belka Munitions but changed its name after Belka lost the war and South Belka was turned into North Osea.
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>>388434968
AC4: ISAF (Unified Usea)
AC5: Osea (The country you will play as in the soon to be released 7)
AC0: Ustio
ACX: Aurelia
AC6: Emmeria
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>>388435518
Is ACX on the Vita?
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>>388438963
nice fanfiction
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>>388439184
kinda
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>>388439196
Go look it up if you don't believe me. Literally everyone knows this. Just like everyone knows the Neucom is already building the Megafloat in AC04 (and you can visit it in one of the challenge missions) and once it buys the EASA (featured in this game) it becomes the Neucom we know in AC3.
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>>388434565
ignore them, it's just triggered politics faggots
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>>388439184
No, only ACX2, aka Joint Assault (only by downloading the game from PSN).
Why they didn't put X on the PSN marketplace I will never know.
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>>388439184
>he doesn't have Adrenaline

>>388439327
and you better update Adrenaline
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>>388439436
check the date of the pic please.
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>>388439353
>challenge mission is canon
>literally nothing to confirm General Resource before 2016 what so ever
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>>388439327
>>388439436
Ehhhhh, if I have to install extra software I'd rather just play it on my pc then. Thanks anyways.
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>>388439659
you're missing out, PSP and PS1 on Vita is top comfy
I've been playing the Electrosphere patch on mine
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Can you emulate 4, 5 and 0 yet without the ground textures and shit spazzing out?
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>every Ace Combat game ends with the protagonist(s) becoming completely forgotten by everyone
Why
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>>388438954
Yeah, mods and fan-made stuff never pull as good speeches as pro stuff. You'd think all you need is a quality microphone, but that doesn't even help.
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>>388439783
5 and 0 work pretty much fine, just with some slowdown at points
4 still has the black plane issue, but the ground shit is fixed by turning on mipmapping
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>>388439783
5 and 0 yes, 4 still needs software mode
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>>388439806
Not Mobius 1 though.
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>>388439806
monuments are for politicians, the skies are for legends
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>>388439910
That's cheating to say him.
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>>388439806
being remembered for dominating something are for those seeking glory
the skies are for everyone and they ensure that remains
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>>388439880
>>388439897
Sweet, cheers lads. That's next weekend sorted out.
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Su-47 > F-22 and everyone knows it.
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>>388400000
>The demon of Razgriz has returned
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>>388440656
>swept back wings
No thank you
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>>388440656
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Who /stillhasphysicalcopies/ here?
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>>388440758
>he doesn't want an unstable control surface for tighter turns.
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>>388440765
I love the plane ponchos so much
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>>388403000
>This low quality shitposting
At least try to do better next time, buddy.
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>>388440904
I only have 5 and 6.
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>>388440990
>posting a blank image
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>>388440904
Of course. 04, 5, Zero, X, 6 AH, AHL. I'm probably getting a PC and PS4 version of 7
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>>388440908
The slavs already ditched that trash, you should too.
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>>388440656
Mig-29 > All
Boy was I disappointed when it wasn't in AC6. And no F-18 either, just that ugly one. What a disappointing game.
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>>388441172
>he can't see into the stealth dimension
weak
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>>388427791
>Not playing the superior Japanese version
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>>388441283
Yup even bought AHL+. Hilariously I got Zero by accident because the store put the Zero disc in the case when I bought AC5.
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>>388441386
I remember reading that the guys at sukhoi still want to do a production fw-swept plane, but materials/constructions are still not up to the task so they went with the -57 for the time being.
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>>388441830
My boner will remain perpetually at half-mast in anticipation.
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>>388427791
>only 36 missions
>implying that matters when AC:Z only has 18(and a half) missions and is undeniably the best game in the series
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>>388421010
>LIKE HALF OUR SQUADRONS DEFECTED TO TERRORISTS FUG :DDDD
>WE ALSO DECIDED TO HIRE ENEMY ACES WHO HATE US :DD
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>>388392450
to be honest, a PC remake of them so I can fly around with a VR headset and my HOTAS setup would be amazing.

So VR would be something I want in this series.
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EVERYDAY I WAKE UP UNSURE
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>>388439863
>You'd think all you need is a quality microphone
I would say it's almost useless. You will need to put radio filters over it anyways, so original quality might not be that useful.
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>>388421965
It's an arcade flight sim. It has just enough sim elements to not be pure arcade, but nowhere near enough realism to be considered a full sim. It's like how Freespace 2 is considered a space sim even though it's not very realistic. Ace Combat is basically Freespace 2 with jet fighters.
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>>388424928
Seems more like Ofnir or 8492 2.0 honestly
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>>388442356
>posting squads that dont exist
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8492, 8492. Where did I hear that before?
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>>388442342
I'm sure you'd still notice. The difference between amateur and pro voice overs are huge. I don't know how they do it but it doesn't sound the same as just recording someone's voice, even if there doesn't seem to be any filter.
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>post yfw CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAAAAYYY
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>>388424928
The Razgriz never turned heel. People just thought they did.
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>>388442608
Yeah kinda dumb. Just the guys who relieved you of the president 7 minutes before his disaperance and the guys who were broadcasting their gas attack on open comms
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>>388427791
The English version had the entire story ripped out. The Japanese version is supposed to be a lot better, and it was recently translated into English.

>>388442073
>implying that matters when AC:Z only has 18(and a half) missions and is undeniably the best game in the series
It actually has more than that. Remember that there are a few places where you can choose from a few different missions.
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>>388439095
And don't forget X2: American
It also happens to be the only game where you do every mission by yourself since it's heavily reliant on the co op feature
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>>388443051
To be fair, 8492 happens about a month after those 2 missions. That's long enough for the name to be familiar but not obvious.
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>>388439880
4 runs like shit for me, but I heard that's just how the game is, 5 seems to be really inconsistent though, some missions it runs fine and on others it'll be super slow
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>>388430214
But then how do you protect the superweapon that protects the superweapon?
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>>388439910
Do they ever mention him after 4 though?
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>>388443396
>4 runs like shit for me, but I heard that's just how the game is

Been playing it on my PS2 and it runs fine m8, emulation is trash garbage.
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>>388443530
Emulation is fantastic as long as it works.
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>>388443396
AC5 should be running fine. 4 is the only one you should have issues with.
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>>388443582
It never works, is the problem.
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>>388443634
It works fine for SNES or PS1. PS2 works for most games but fucks up spectacularly for others.
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>>388423351
They arent going to have chinese planes because china.
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>>388443616
I just don't understand why it would go slow, it'll run fine on the mission where you need to neutralize the chemical weapons in the city and then go super slow during the Desert Arrow mission
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>>388436645
VT isn't shit, it's just that no one's making anything for it.

>>388437325
Demanding that everything be voice acted is one of the biggest problems with modern gaming.
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>>388443124
AC1 and AC2 you were alone
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>>388444091
>Demanding that everything be voice acted is one of the biggest problems with modern gaming.
Sure, for CRPGs and such. But not for Ace Combat where a mission without radio chatter feels boring and dead.
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>>388444132
Yeah, you have a point, even in AHL you go alone
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>>388441413
At least the Tornado was fuckin dope since ac6 has a lot of A2G stuff.
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>>388444091
No, that's a problem with RPGs.
All the other games have had "full" voice acting for ages and it was never a problem, cRPGs just had too much text to voice out.
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>>388444091
>VT isn't shit, it's just that no one's making anything for it.
Are you sure?
Right when it was released it was just terrible. Missiles were useless and changing targets was implemented in the worst way possible.
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>>388440758
I wish Flankers didn't always have ugly paint schemes. They look really good otherwise.
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>>388443634
Yeah, no
Picrel is 0 played at 4x internal resolution, in case you are wondering
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>>388392584
AC:X is the only AC game i've played,what do I play next?
7 looks pretty neat
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>>388444693
Play the PS2 trilogy.
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>>388444594
>ugly paint schemes
nigger, I'll cut you
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>>388444693
450
then play 2 for the rad ost
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Which country IRL has the best planes?
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>>388444873
United States
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Post yfw
>REX
>REX TREMENDAE
>MAJESTAAAAAAAATIS
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>>388444873
The USA in the parallel universe they chose the YF-23
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>>388444873
Japan
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>>388444958
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>>388444676
Doesnt ps2 emu allow re-texturing? Would love some hd emblems on that sucker.
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>>388445061
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>>388444873
belka
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>>388444873
France.
The Rafale M is my waifu. Don't tell Rafale B and C.
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>>388444873
Russia. Flankers look so aesthetic to me.
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>>388445414
hi brady
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>>388444231
It doesn't bother me. Maybe it's because I'm used to playing Freespace 2 campaigns, which often have a lot of unvoiced dialogue. I've just never been particularly bothered by a lack of voice acting, especially if it's user-made content.

>>388444560
It must have been improved since then. Missiles are pretty effective for me, and there's an option to change targeting so it works like AC. The only thing that really bothers me is the gunsight. It uses a lead indicator like Freespace instead of a moving pipper, and it doesn't appear until you're within 800 meters, even though your actual gun range is greater than that.
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>>388445331
wrong
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>>388444873
South Africa has the cutest planes
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>>388444758
That one's okay, I'll grant you.
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>>388444873
M I K O Y A N A E S T H E T I C
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>>388444873
Japan
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>>388445473
Not Tom but whatever I guess.
>>388445609
smol plane
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>>388445675
What about this?
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>>388444457
I never liked the Tornado. It's so bulky and fat and has that giant tail. But A-10 though. Man. It's really fucking good in that game against ground targets, but pray to the gods no planes decide to follow you.
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>>388445895
>getting hatemail for MVPing Tokyo Hard on this one
Infinity was fun
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>>388392450
Ace Combat 4 and 5 endings are GOAT and the soundtrack in the last mission is just... amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Qkzj5bStU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZBoiW460nU
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>>388445906
>calling other planes ugly while posting the A-10
the nerve of some people
>>
>>388445906
Yeah, but you can't drop cluster munitions at supersonic speeds with the a10
>>
>>388446071
That's why the F-15 exists.
>>
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>>388446057
>Implying the A-10 is ugly
It's you who's got some nerve.
>>
>>388446052
You forgot one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k
>>
>>388392450
<<Mobius 1, engage.>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2QawCtbNvQ
>>
>>388445743
>posting unspoilered ASS on a blue board
MOOOOODDSSSSS
>>
>tfw no shirt with this on it
I've got ones with Mobius and Galm team's emblem, but nobody except some sketchy Russian site sold shirts with the Ghosts of Razgriz emblem.
>>
I might get back into War Thunder now that I found out about these
http://live.warthunder.com/?q=%23acecombat
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>>388446614
If only War Thunder wasn't so grindy
>>
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Time for the big question
Are borders really that bad?
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>>388446614
>putting Phoenix's emblem on a fucking TANK
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I just ordered 4. Please tell me it's not as fucking awful as 5 in terms of what some of the missions are like. 0 was near-perfect, but some of 5's missions make me want to stab a fucker.
>>
>>388445743
This plane is very funny. It's literally just wings strapped on two giant engines.
>>
>>388446539
Funny how they took the time to customize their planes even when they were hidden from the world.
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>>388446253
>f15
Next you'll say that you have sex for the purpose of procreation.
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>>388446614
>tfw no early jet era Ace Combat
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>>388446947
4 is pretty good. It's missions aren't nearly as gimmicky as 5 are.
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>>388446539
Stick a dank patch on your sweet pilot's jacket
>>
>>388446947
4's missions are not gimmicky like 5's were. They're pretty straightforward.
>>
>>388446947
4 is very straight-forward.
You gonna have some fun.
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>>388446931
Borders are necessary to prevent uncontrolled hordes of refugees and unlawful construction of space elevators
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRosMyUkQ3g
>THIS
>FUCKING
>MISSION

>>388446052
>>388446425
How can one series keep delivering the hype boys. How do they do it?
>>
>>388447190
>pixy wanted to remove borders and entrust the future to the next generation
>next generation ignores borders and constructs a space elevator in erusian territory starting a new war
bravo pixy
>>
>>388446947
>I just ordered 4. Please tell me it's not as fucking awful as 5 in terms of what some of the missions are like
4 is kind of a different beast compared to the other two PS2 games. A lot of the missions are "score X points before time runs out"
It's something of a transition between the arcade roots of the series and the crazy "operatic" story-based madness of the later games that Zero went on to perfect.
>>
>>388446947
some of 4's missions are as bad/worse than 5's for some other reasons, hope you enjoy the point grind
>>
I hope they make an hd collection
Only games I've played were 1 and a little bit of 4
I got 4-5-0 but my TV can't play ps2 shit and 4 is too scratched up
And the games emulate like shit still
Assault horizon legacy is very fun I'm playing that right now
>>
>>388447280
But if there weren't any borders then there wouldn't be any grounds to bitching about sovereignty.
Point for Pixy.
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HEY GUYS
Chopper > Pixy
>>
>>388447337
Stick an old HDD into your PS2 and grab a free CRT off of craigslist, worked for me

Or if you want to save space and spend money, an upscaler will make your PS2 stop looking like ass on your modern screen
>>
>>388447060
By that point, they had the direct support of the President himself.
>>
>>388447337
>And the games emulate like shit still
Read the thread

>>388447442
Now that is a hot opinion you got there
>>
>>388447280
What I want to know is why Osea decided to build the Space Elevator in Erusia when they're literally several countries and an ocean apert
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>>388447098
*blocks ur path*
>>
>>388447337
>And the games emulate like shit still
No they don't. AC5 and Zero emulate perfectly, and AC4 doesn't have the seizure-inducing flickers anymore.
>>
>>388447249
My nigga Keiki Kobayashi, that's who. I am so happy he is coming back for 7.
>>
fun thread lads, keep on flying
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>getting shot down by a fun SAM
>>
>Ace Combat thread that actually hit bump limit
What a time to be alive
>>
>>388446947
4 doesn't have as many gimmick missions, but fucking hell the bombing ones last forever
>>
>>388447748

In the track 'Avalon' you can hear Cipher breathing heavily.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCcTMviUKWY
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>>388447876
shit that's supposed to be a fucking SAM
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>>388447624
*sabatoges your love interest's plane because I have a crush on you*
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