>left >classic >right >dog shit explain

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Leave aqua alone. She's suffered enough

>left: charming adventure of innocence, a higher calling, and coming of age
>right: a shitty deviant art character and a mary sue adventure in an awful prequel that only happens because the third unseen deviant art OC is borderline retarded
focusing on the OCs hurt KH so hard. Fuck Keyblade masters, fuck organization 13

>>388383982
correct

>>388384310
Aqua isn't a mary sue and ven is sora/roxas lite. I'm not even sure how to describe terra though...dumbass?

>>388383982
who the fuck is aqua and why did she get her own game?

>>388383982
>worse combat
>two gullible retards and generic waifubait
>butchered Disney Worlds
>overall worse story
>fetus heart sex

>>388383982
>thinking Kingdom Hearts is good at all
>>>/r/eddit

It might just be that I hadn't played the games recently enough, but I never picked up on the similarities in OP pic.

>>388383982
Reminder to know what's really going on in KHIII you have to buy a shitty phone game which doesn't even have all the Japanese content yet.

>>388383982
1 had good writing and gameplay
BBS had shit writing and gameplay

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>spunky "lazy bum" turns into the awkward "hopeless sleepyhead"

>>388385696
>buy

just login once a day and save up jewels

>>388383982
>It's like poetry, it rhymes.

I wish I could kill you all.

>>388385696
What autistic shit did they add so far? I heard something about Marluxia and Ventus being time travelers? What the fuck.

I want all osakafags to die

>>388386789
Kill yourself Osakafag

>Implying that the whole series is not cancer spread out across multiple consoles over 15 years.

>>388383982
All the spinoffs KH is more interesting than mainline desu

>>388383982
Certainly wish bbs spent more time investing in the relationship between ven, aqua, and terra. The neat thing about kh1 was dicking around on the island and fighting Riku while gathering the crap for kairi. I can see this being what probably happened without. Cutscene outright telling me.

For these doomed trio we get some stuffy dialogue about dreams, hearts and keyblades and then Aqua gives everyone friendship necklaces. It was very corny. After that they split up. I have no feeling of how they interact with one another before the shit with xehanort happens.

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>>388386789
explain

>>388387649
i never realized how disconnected i feel during the wayfinder scene until you pointed that out

>>388383982
But Roxas is objectively better though

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>>388387649
All their relationships in general are wonky. No one listens to aqua,Ven plays into Vanitas's words, terra is a sore loser who listens to the creepy old guy, none of them talked with each other during raident garden t avoid most of the future headaches.

...Eraqus was fully prepared to kill Ven without a single bit of hesitation.
Proceeds to waver a bit and shed a manly tear at the very thought of having to kill terra.

Dat favortism.

>>388383982
maybe if ventus and terra weren't such massive cucks the game would've been better

>>388387459
Kill yourself Osakafag

>>388384567
enduring. Even his empty armor has enough will to resist.

DDD>BBS

>>388388780
All osakashit

>>388387939
I second this feeling.

>>388388780
>riku redemption the game

How dd he do it?

>>388389078
But that's CoM

Birth By Sleep has better gameplay and a significantly better story than KH1 though.

KH1's forced platforming segments and terrible level design/camera (I'm looking at you Peter Pan level) ruin it. BBS has its share of problems but at least the level design never wound up frustrating.
>>388384310
But Organization XIII is a significantly more fearsome villain than any of the Disney villains in the games. The OCs are the best part of the series.

>>388390386
>>388388679

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>>388384656
One of the gullible dumbasses still wound up being badass though. Him being dumb just made him less perfect and thus a better character.
https://youtu.be/VsjHhNdILyA?t=8m (start at 8 min)
Best scene in the whole game
>>388390428
Not until you fix the level design and camera in KH1.

>>388390607
>defending osakashit
You're pathetic. Watch Bl00dybizkits turning point and realize you're wrong

>>388390642
Why can't you form your own opinion?

>>388390607
He already had flaws. Him being dumb on top of it was just insult to injury.

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>>388390642
I already watched "The Problems with Osaka Team" though. I'm well aware that Osaka has a problem with balancing and not putting hit stun into their games (and giving infinite i-frames when dodging). I already said the game is imperfect. Just better than KH1

Of the titles I've played:
KH2FM > BBS FM > Re: Chain of Memories > KH1 FM > 358/2 Days

Though I could see BBS being lower than ReCoM since ReCoM has a better story and more strategic gameplay.

>>388390925
re com has nothing on the original's level of fun bullshit.

>>388391032
Uh, Lethal Frame? Megaflare? Duels?

>>388391249
The original com has mega flare though.

>>388390925
>I already watched "The Problems with Osaka Team" though
Then stop pretending it was good faggot

You need a video to tell you this? I could easily tell while playing the games that they're shoddily balanced.

>>388384623
I wouldn't consider 2.8 a game. It was the mgsv ground zeros of kingdom hearts.

>>388391354
A game with flaws =/= a bad game, you insipid cocksucker

People who can't think for themselves and hold up others' opinions as incontrovertible gospel are truly the worst.

>>388390607
Fuck off. BBS's story and characters were complete shit and the only reason why Terra was "badass" was because of the established character of Lingering Will, which debuted in KH2. The only positive thing about BBS's story isn't even something that came from the game, but something it stole from KH2. Don't even get me started on the gameplay.

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>>388391689
>A game with flaws =/= a bad game
BBS isn't just that it's a fundamentally awful game to its core

Is 1.5/2.5 collection on PS4 worth $50 or should I wait for a sale? I'm super tempted to just throw the cash down for it.
but I also want to buy RE4 in this sale because I haven't played it since gamecube

>>388391840
You've never played a fundamentally awful game.

Birth by Sleep is, at its very worst, a mediocre game.
Fuck's sake, it isn't even the worst game in the series.

>>388391917
>Fuck's sake, it isn't even the worst game in the series
Second worst, because DDD takes everything wrong with BBS and then by tenfold makes them worse on top of its own problems, and I have played a fundamentally awful game. I've played Birth By Sleep

>>388391842
Four games, two movies, and a potential 200+ hours of gameplay

>>388391829
I played BBS before playing the Final Mix version of KH2 though. I was never aware of Lingering Will when I played BBS. I found Terra cool because after all the bad decisions he made he finally realized Xehanort was not on his side and took the most direct stand against Xehanort for the sake of his friends, so much so that even after having his body stolen from him, through sheer will he was able to continue fighting Xehanort up until the end of his ark in BBS. That he learned from his mistakes and tried his best to redeem himself for them. The fact that he was the strongest of the three MCs helped make this more believable as well.

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>>388391978
>any game in the KH series being worse than 358/2 Days

>>388392184
Days isn't osakashit, therefore it's better than DDD, COM, Re:COM, and BBS on top 3 when it comes out

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>>388391978
Jesus Christ anon, it should be obvious which game is the worst.

>DDD takes everything wrong with BBS and then by tenfold makes them worse
You simply do not understand anything about video games if you think this is true.

>I have played a fundamentally awful game. I've played Birth By Sleep
A truly laughable statement that highlights for all the world to see how small your scope is.

One who knows nothing can understand nothing.
There are thousands of games that make Birth by Sleep look like a masterpiece by comparison.

>>388392207
>There are thousands of games that make Birth by Sleep look like a masterpiece by comparison
Considering Birth by Sleep is one of the worst ARPGs of all time you're incorrect

>>388392110
You have shit taste and I hope Terra and the rest of the BBS crew get at most 5 minutes of screen time in KH3. Although I will admit that Terra was probably the best written character in that game, but that's not saying much.

>>388383982
Man I'm starting to get fucking tired of /v/ ... I guess it's time for me to leave for good.

>>388392307
See you tomorrow

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>>388392204
Days retcons itself, has both standard enemies and bosses that are damage sponges, and makes a plot that is supposed to be about Roxas and the Organization and turns it into a plot about a character that has no bearing on the overarching plot of the KH series. It has a combo and ability system that makes its combat simpler than KH1's even and lacks the command deck of the other side games, thus making the combat have absolutely nothing to keep it interesting aside from making magic OP in specific instances.

Days is the worst KH game, and is the only KH game that is not a good game in any capacity.

>>388392342
Probably but each time it gets harder to have a reason to be here, specially with retards like OP around.

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>>388392301
>terra
>well written
>dumber than his adoptive brother
>dumber than his successor

>>388392204
>>388392242
It's become powerfully evident that you have no interest in rational or critical thought, have no knowledge of game design, and rely on your own arbitrary tribalism and the opinions of others to form the basis of your discussions in these threads.

Feel free to kill yourself. We get enough autism in these threads with XV-kun, we don't need any more.

>>388383982
>Shonen protag gets woken up by bland girl
What's the difference?

>>388392507
Final Fantasy XV was the worst ARPG and Final Fantasy game of all time, it had horrible writing, gameplay, and characters, while being a shitty cashgrab that duped people into buying it thanks to its shitty love plot and cup noodles.

>>388392487
Sora is too perfect as a person.
Ventus never redeems himself.

>>388392607
Are you trying to get him in here?

Please stop.

>>388392487
He was simply because he had a small character arc of noticing how much of a fucking retard he was and because his story was the most impactful, as it was the catalyst for most of the game's events. From a storymaking perspective, without any bias in liking the character or not, which I don't, he was the better written character out of the 3. Overall they were all shit though, and I hope they die.

>>388392607
Shhhh

>>388392204
You sound like a fucking drone. Fun fact: the guy who made that Turning Point video that you follow like gospel still liked BBS enough to pour hundreds, possibly thousands of hours into speedrunning it.

>>388392621
Sora is still kinda dumb, and has to be saved by Riku several times in DDD. Ven will presumably get that chance in KH3.

The only perfect KH character is Aqua Sue.

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>>388392607
>thanks to its shitty love plot and cup noodles

>>388392607
Yeah people say the same since XII, it's only miserable fucks like you that hate videogames so much, that cannot find joy in them anymore and dedicate their life into bashing newer titles that don't fill the void. Just fuck off and make a coherent sentence for once in your life

>>388392621
Sora isn't perfect and DDD shows that.
Ven stopped Van despite it breaking his heart(literally) and he saves sora in DDD when he fugs up in TWTNW. Also helped aqua in the realm of darkness while still in a coma along with terra.

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>>388392737
Anon captain hook convinced him to fight peter pan. I mean come on.

>>388393014
That means something to us because we know who Captain Hook is and have watched the movies and played previous KH games. To Terra he's just some guy.

>>388392790
Aqua screwed up. She saved terra's sorry butt and caused most of sora's problems.

>>388393014
Come on what? Not him but not only does Terra not know who he is, but Peter Pan is kind of a douche. Don't lie and say you've never wanted to beat his ass.

Hell, I never saw Lilo and Stitch, and the only reason I knew whatshisface was a villain was because he was the first character Terra met.

>>388390925
>Re:com better than khfm

No, not even close. The card system is shit and will always be shit

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>>388383982
They did the same thing in Days as well. Lots of pottery in this series.

>>388393014
One, it's a children's game. Two, having character flaws, in this case being retarded, is not bad writing. Bad writing would be having no flaws at all. You might argue that the writer's were lazy because they couldn't think of a better way to have Terra help Cpt. Hook, but that's a criticism on the game's story, not on the character. My point still stands.

>>388393014
There is literally no reason for Terra to distrust Hook or trust Peter

The only reason you know is because you watched Peter Pan, or you know that the game is fiction and you have the perspective that lets you make that judgement.

From Terra's perspective, as someone living in that universe, Hook is just another person.
Ven hands the poisoned apple to the Evil Queen, but nobody gives him shit for it.

>>388388648
Ven came more recently than the rest, and of course Terra's the favorite, he gives his two other students silver crests, and his favorite gold

>>388393139
Its just KH1 where every attack is attached to a card though. All it does is take's KH1's gameplay and adds more strategy to it by restricting your ability to attack and forcing you to both pay attention to card values played AND the combat going on at the same time rather than just one of those.

>>388393170
>day
>sunset
>night
POTTERY

>>388393205
Aqua also helps the space police capture Twitch, but since Aqua can do no wrong people don't remember that.

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>>388393135
>the only reason I knew whatshisface was a villain was because he was the first character Terra met.

Thanks for the laugh. Not even being sarcastic.

They both look awful

>kingdom hearts threads now have their own xv-kun who constantly cries about osaka
why are autists so attracted to /v/?

>>388393354
>why are autists so attracted to /v/?
How much time do you have? It's a long explanation

>>388392729
It's okay, he's too busy rigging a poll at the moment to post on /v/

>>388393287
>Aqua helps space police
>Terra helps...
>Malifecent
>Captain Hook
>Xehanort
>The Queen

>>388393014
FROM MY POINT OF VIEW PETER PAN IS EVIL

But seriously, I see people saying this over and over again. Is it just a meme at this point, or do you actually believe that KH characters are all knowing and can tell who's evil and who's good without having watched the movies.

>>388393418
what poll?

>>388393354
Not just KH threads
/v/ is full of these kinds of people.
Barneyfag, that guy who posts the exact same webms and screenshots in threads for FFX/X-2 HD Remaster, and ACkun who hates Ace Combat and loves shmups.

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>>388393421
Somehow instantly knows pete is the bad guy.

>>388393474
>ACkun who hates Ace Combat
It's impossible to hate Ace Combat

>>388393421
How did Terra help The Evil Queen? And also people forget that he made up for helping Hook before he left, and that Maleficent wasn't even really his fault.

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>>388393286
More pottery.

>>388393474
What if it's all XV-kun and his mind has just fragmented into different personalities

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>>388384567
Anakin Skywalker done right

>>388393457
>>388358740
This threads.

>>388393392
It's a lazy afternoon for me so lots of time.

>>388386803
No, but Ventus and Marluxia are the new Union Leaders.

>>388393421
>Malifecent
Xehanort was mind controlling him there. He dindu nuffin

>Captain Hook
He doesn't actually do anything to Peter Pan and saves two children. He dindu nuffin

>Xehanort
Xehanort played everyone so you can't blame him for that. Also he beat him up when he took his body, stealing victory from him right at the last second.

>The Queen
He was never going to help her, just wanted to meet Snow White. He also was about to kick her ass if she didn't help him after throwing him into her mirror. He dindu nuffin

Try again nigga.

>>388393579
>that many poll votes
wow, unless hes been spamming it at peak hours I doubt it got that high naturally

>>388393632
XV had roughly 30-40 votes within minutes of the thread being made. There's nothing safe from him.

>>388384567
>aqua
>not a mary sue
>the strongest, smartest and most competent of the three, who is also the most strong-willed and most pure of anyone in the franchise, easily defeats everyone unless she gets blindsided, including Xehanort at his strongest, and can survive in the RoD indefinitely because she's unbreakable and unbeatable

I wonder does Xemnas, Ansem, or Terra-Xehanort still have aqua's wafinder on hand. Or does the lingering will have it?

>>388393232
>It's just cards and numbers on top of what's already there

No there's stats like thrust and slash that's not very obvious. So it forces you to organize a very well thought out order to your cards to maximize damage

>So strategy that's good right?

Would be if getting good cards wasn't random as fuck and a hellish grind. Better to make an all 9 deck or close to it and shove some 0s in for sleight counters. Or spam sleights.

It was well thought out and focused on strategy but made it an absolute pain to reasonably achieve this. There's more incentive to say fuck it and finish the game faster.

>>388393731
It's never been shown so I'm gonna guess that it's in Terranort's pant thingys.

>>388393720
Aqua lost a 1v1 to Vanitas, who woke up first after they KO'd each other and didn't kill her because Xehanort told him he might need a spare body if Terra or Ventus didn't work out. She's not the strongest, seeing how Ventus blew the fuck out of Vanitas. Also she has never even beaten Xehanort at his full power because that doesn't exits. As long as Terra is in Xehanort, Xehanort will always be nerfed due to Terra fighting him from within. You can literally see Terra fighting him in his boss fight and Terranort even says "Stop fighting back. Also she loses hope multiple times during 2.8 and it's only because of Terra and Ventus helping her that she lived through the RoD. Hell, Terranort was about to DARKNESS her before Terra intervened.

>>388393878
Sorra assumed mansex had it on hand to talk to aqua in the chamber of repose

>>388393621
Yeah y'know, I was kinda surprised by a lot of BBS when actually playing it after hearing about it for so long. Terra supposedly helps every villain mess things up in their world, but most of the time he doesn't actually do anything to really help the villains. The only cases are really with Xehanort, Jumba and Hook initially. And he always ends up either confronting them about it or somewhat thwarting them by the end anyway, aside from Malificent who he was afraid to confront because of muh darkness.

Honestly I think he gets a bad rap. He's a bit gullible but it seems like most of it comes from him having a habit of being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

>>388393995
I guess it could have gone with Xemnas after Terranort turned himself in Ansem SoD and Xemnas. I assume the Org13 members still have their regular clothes on under the black coats. In which case Xemnas would be wearing Terranort's clothing since Ansem SoD took on Master Xehanort's clothing.

>>388393967
>trying to darkness someone already on the realm of darkness

Also I just realized terranort actually did guide her to the depths of darkness like he said he would.

>>388394087
Whether by coincidence or Xehanort meddling, Terra always ends up meeting the Disney villains first in every world. It's not like he has a whole lot of reasons to distrust the first person he happens upon in strange worlds he knows nothing about. I'm sure Ventus or Aqua would have also unknowingly helped the "bad guys" if they were the first people they met upon arrival.

>>388394087
He physically scarred briag and took out one of his eyes permanently. I'm still surprised Nomoura got away with that.

>>388394258
Yeah, it does seem very coincidental that it always happens to him. Ven has that one time with the Evil Queen and Aqua with the Galactic Armada, but otherwise that kind of thing never happens to them.

Now i see, there is a long video of some random guy on the internet that makes shit jokes with "funny" editing talking about how he hates BBS, now i understand the source of the autism.

>>388394359
Why wouldn't he be able to get away with that? It'd only be Disney characters he's not allowed to do anything with other than what Disney says.

>>388394702
Yeah it's recent but some guy seems intent on posting it and calling who disagrees with him osakafag. Though autists who make a name for themselves in KH threads isn't new. Remember redpill-kun?

>>388390925
What exactly is your reason for putting BBS above KH1?

I recently replayed the entire series which made me realize how flawed BBS is. I remember loving it to bits when it came out on PSP, but when i replayed it a couple of days ago I realized just how flawed it was. It's not that I mind how the bosses are designed, they can be fun, but a whole lot of it ends up being really boring, especially the worlds. KH1FM is still my favorite with 2FM being second.

>>388394923
It's just something i noticed, the moment some random person makes a long video about a game that has problems but not completely bad, be it saying how the game is actually good or bad, threads about the game or series become shit with people treating it like it's a fucking message of a god and undeniably true. And it's always the same type of videos with the same shit attempts of jokes and editing.

>>388391842
Definitely worth it. A lot of the issues that came with launch due to bumping the framerate up to 60fps have been fixed as well.

>>388395318
I'm afraid that just happens to be what a large chunk of /v/ users are these days. People who get their opinions from ecelebfags and just regurgitate them everywhere.

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>>388394167
>He doesn't know about advanced darkness

>>388394167
To be fair, Aqua is pretty much immune to darkness.

>>388395529
We better get a star wars world in kh3. It makes too much sense.

>>388395505
Has anyone even watched the autists video he made? Is it even good?

>>388395629
>We better get a star wars world in kh3
We better not.

>>388383982
TAKE
YOUR
NOSTALGIA
GOGGLES
OFF

BBS is solid af, and probably has the best story and gameplay of the series (though it's tied for KH2FM on Critical).

>>388395629
>Star Wars themed gummi ship stage

Make this happen right the fuck now, it's meant to be.

>>388395608
Only because the magic she used on her lucky charm gained reality warping plot armor hax. The damn thing could probably open a door to the realm of light if it felt like it.

>>388395608
No she's not. Only Riku is because he learned how to control it. Unless she learns how to use darkness, she's not immune. Not even Eraqus was immune, and he was a light nazi.

>Xehanort looks and acts suspicious as fuck during the entire game
>two of the protags were keyblade master material yet were not wise enough to figure that one out until it was too late
>literally had one job and still fuck up big
>retarded fight didn't ended by Radiant Garden when they literally had time to sit down and talk but lol anime tropes we must interrupt each other even though we are supposed to be friends for ever!!!!
BBS was such a shitshow

>>388395709
I did begrudgingly. It raises the points that people have already long since pointed out like the balancing issues and worlds being linear hallways. As for the "humour"? It's the same tired old shit you see in every eceleb video where they just yell at the camera and have random shit flash on screen as if it's supposed to be funny.

>>388395709
light side of the force
dark side of the force
xemneas and young nort have light sabers
light saber keyblade
>>388395763
I...never considered this.

>>388395797
She should make more of these charms and give them to everyone once she's out of the realm, man.

>>388395983
Everything Aqua touches turns to shit. So no thank you.

>>388396080
every post YOU make turns to shit

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>>388396080
She physically touched sora, riku, terra and ventus and kairi touched her keyblade.

>>388395856
To be fair to them, they had no reason to suspect him when he was introduced to them by their master. Eraqus is the dumbass there because he said "Let me introduce you to my friend Xehanort. Btw if he ever asks if you've heard the good news, don't worry about it, he's just senile."

But one thing that did always bug me is how Aqua tells Terra in RD that she's 'seen what he's done' and that he shouldn't 'put himself so close to darkness'. What is she even referring to? The only thing she could possibly know about was with Malificent, but there she kept saying that Terra would never do that and such. So what is she even doing then? In fact she seems to have a habit of defending Terra when anyone else talks shit about him, but then telling him that he's shit when she actually talks to him.

>>388383982
Aqua suffers from having an english voice actor who can't seem to convey any emotion aside from dull monotony.

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>It's only -a- kingdom hearts like the one from KH2 rather than -the- kingdom hearts

where the fuck did Xehanort get it then?

>>388396262
>sora
Autist who depends on his friends to do everything.

>Riku
He's so alpha that he was able to break the Aqua curse through sheer will. He was fucked in KH1 because of it though.

>Terra
Literally a suit of armor in a desert at this point

>Kairi
No need for an explanation of why she's shit.

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Nomura loves making shitty callbacks like that
>Terra doing the "Giving up already? I thought you were stronger than that!" shtick in a flashback
>Lea saying "I'm so flattered!" in BBS, though this went over the localization team's head and got replaced with "See? I'm immortal!"
>"We'll go together", uttered again by Young Xehanort when Sora arrives in TWTNW in DDD. Localization team goofed again and replaced it with "Come with me"

>>388396262
>sora has had shit happen to him constantly throughout the series
>riku had his fall from grace in kh1
>kairi lost her heart in kh1
>ventus fell into sleep coma and lost his heart
>terra has been misled, helped kill his master, had his body stolen, had his heart locked away, had his body ripped in two, those two parts slain and stitched back together as of DDD, has part of his mind stuck in his armour
Basically Kairi is the only one who got off lucky.

>>388396305
0.2 aqua sounds nice. Phantom aqua sounds....lewd

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>>388396227
>Ven existed before/during the keyblade war
>now Marluxia's whole self is there too

shit's happening.

Also Stalker-chan gets killed so at least one of the five here did her in.

>>388393286
>dusk
>dawn
>twilight

>>388396391
I believe that blue KH is the one from the Keyblade War where all the Keyblade users hearts went. Somehow Xehanort must have conjured up some magic to summon it, maybe due to Ven and Van making the shitty χ-blade. The real, truest, biggest KH was swallowed by the Darkness and hasn't been seen since. Only the χ-blade can properly summon it.

>>388396405
>"We'll go together", uttered again by Young Xehanort when Sora arrives in TWTNW in DDD. Localization team goofed again and replaced it with "Come with me"
And then he does it again in Chi's ending as well in the only voiced line in the whole game
If there's one thing Nomura loves, it's parallels

>>388396540
Ephemer's in the clear we saw him get a book from Ava personally

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>>388396440
and the only thing that happened to Kairi is that she had a nobody who was actually even less of a nobody, because she's a princess of heart.

>Pure heart
>loses her heart
>doesn't become a heartless
>body was left alone albeit catatonic
>her heart comes out of sora and makes a nobody, but sora's body was used by Roxas so there was literally nothing making up Namine. No heart, no body, no soul

>>388396540
>All this time I was thinking the Keyblade War happened many centuries ago
>apparantly it's like a hundred years ago

Jesus nomura what are you smoking?

>>388396452
She does sound slightly better than her BBS self, though I think she really stands out because the rest of the English cast is pretty much 10/10 thanks to Disney.

>>388396540
Lauriam seems way too obvious so he's probably a red-herring. Same with Blaine. Maybe we'll get a curve ball and it'll turn out to be Skuld.

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>>388396659
It's either Lauriam by virtue of being late and being the original self of Marluxia, or Blaine for looking creepy.

OR it might be Skuld because twists.

>>388396681
And Namine still didn't affect Kairi in the slightest unlike Roxas did to Sora. I just chalk Namine up to Princess of Heart magic creating her, it seems like the most reasonable explanation considering PoH powers haven't been really explained or explored outside of a throwaway couple of lines in KH1.

>Young xehnort was moving forward in time to collect other norts for 3D
>Ventus is the only one out of the trio who could possibly fight him with it making sense plot wise and terra already being a vessel.
>0.2 confirms the old coot is trying to find the chamber of repose for ven for whatever reason
>now know ven is old as heck an lived before the keyblade war

what does it all mean?

The OG trio in KH1 wouldn't have to deal with all this bullshit if the BBS cast weren't retards with a brain size of a fucking baboon

>>388396768
Blaine also said he thought he'd be the latest, and was the one questioning the book as well, shove Strelitzia's whole chapter before Blaine arrives, and even if Marly arrives last, everyone would still be pointing fingers at Mister Tips-a-lot

>>388396814
Well Kairi was still 'incomplete' in some way to justify her 'coming back' to Kairi, even though Kairi never lost anything to have namine exist.

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>>388396707
>popular waifu gets killed
>the murderer was actually another popular waifu
Nomura's a madman if that's what happened.

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>>388396540
Watch it be Ven. We've seen his dark side.

>>388396290
She's faltering.
Aquas arc is that of someone of strenght and conviciton faltering at the lies of darkness.

>>388396824
Basically Ventus's body has no heart in it meaning it's very easy to turn into another Xehanort without resistance like Terra.

>>388396870
I guess Nomura had to find some reason to write Namine out of the story come the end of KH2.

>>388396919
>skuld was jealous of her and was afraid the other guys wouldn't give her the attention
That fits perfectly.

>>388396827
It was gonna happen anyways. Xehanort is a time traveling wizard that knows the future and has the most powerful keyblade available. Also he probably has whatever is in that meme box from that foreteller movie.

What's this meme that Aqua was obsessed with Ven?

>>388396965
Wasn't the whole point of the ending of 0.2 that Aqua will never falter?

>>388396540
a weird thing we have to consider is that this means that Marluxia is/was a keyblade wielder. And wouldn't he remember that and be able to wield a keyblade?

>>388383982
even if BBS' story is a little weak I found T/V/R's relationship more endearing than S/R/K. Sora's relationships with his friends always felt forced since you barely get to interact Riku/Kairi.

Besides Roxas is the best protag anyways.

>>388397103
Because she has completed her arc, NOW she will never falter.

>Everyone is so retarded
>MUH CONVICTION
>MUH DRAMA
>Dragged to the point no one can do jackshit except that one autistic child who was completely unrelated yet dragged into this because his friend who was originally a chosen one was a retard too
On a hindsight, fuck this series

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>>388397004
>writing namine out

Silly anon. Namine was the one that told the lingering will to go help out aqua in the realm of darkness before she lost hope...somehow.

>>388384567
Passionate but naive.

>>388397220
I meant at the time of KH2 when he didn't know if the series would continue. And yep, it's very tight but that convo can actually fit into the timeline just.

>>388397170
But she never really faltered to begin with.

>>388397257
But that's sora.

>>388397164
>barely get to interact with Kairi/Riku
>You can kick Riku's ass in a swordfight, or race and game even tracks the score, and the name of the gummi ship depends who wins the race, while you collect stuff for Kairi and share multiple cutscenes with her, and the crush is made blatant with the paopu fruit scene, and Sora drawing a shared paopu on the cave
>vs one cutscenes with them awkwardly laughing at non-jokes, beating up Terra and Aqua once or twice, and then them.splitting as soon as the tests done, and them being bitchy cats towards each other all the time

>>388384567
Terra is Riku but more naive, Ven is Sora but with less conviction, and Aqua is Kairi but...actually I think she's just Kairi.

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>>388397220
>okay, time to write days. clearly we need to write Roxas and Namine's relationship to parallel Sora and Kairi
>But I'm also too lazy to figure that out, so just make another Kairi. Do whatever you want because we're just going to say that nobody can remember her
>Brilliant.

>>388397164
Sora and Riku can fight like three times in one game. First as friends, second as enemies, third via xehanort shenanigans. It's clear they're like brothers(borderline lovers) and Sora hears Kairi talk to him the entire game by virtue of literally sharing his body. And he spends a whole other game looking for both of them. Those two characters were his primary motivation up to ddd

>>388397440
Ven is Kairi, Aqua is Sora

>>388397164
>I found T/V/R's relationship more endearing than S/R/K. Sora's relationships with his friends always felt forced since you barely get to interact Riku/Kairi.
Did you even play KH1? The entire Destiny Islands world proves you wrong.

>>388397487
Sora is a dumb goofy kid, and Kairi doesn't have a personality. So no, that's wrong.

>>388397481
>clearly we need to write Roxas and Namine's relationship to parallel Sora and Kairi
>believing this would ever happen

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WHY THE FUCK IS SORA THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE EVERYONE? WHY?
>Introduce this shitload of characters
>Make them look oh so valuable
>Dragged Sora down and make him bad
>Introduce more
>Dragged the austist down some more
>Let everyone be useless except the autist
FUCKING. WHY.

>>388397570
Sora's the one who smacks his friend when he acts dumb, and fixes shit, aka Aqua
Ven's the one made of pure light, and just kinda stands there being cute and useless aka Kairi

>>388397629
>WHY THE FUCK IS SORA THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE EVERYONE?
>riku and mickey are on a separate journey to save aqua, who will lead them to ven
try again taro

>>388397327
Nah, Sora's dumb in that kind of shonen protag way, but anyone who mentions DARKNESS is getting a keyblade shoved up their ass.

Terra was a 20 something who lived his whole life on a isolated monastery with 3 other people for company and his master's dogmatic teachings as his knowledge from the outside world.

Suddenly he gets the wool removed from his eyes and he doesn't know how to deal with it. He gives good old uncle No Heart X the benefit of the doubt and gets fucked over for it. When people call Terra a dumbass they really take his situation out of context. He's no worse than Roxas who actively works for a villain.

>>388397629
Because hearts, and his heart is tied to so many people.

>>388397629
Sora's only saving those connected to him directly.

>>388397484
>kh2
>finds kairi: glad that your safe
>fibds riku: falls on knees with tears. RIKU BRO WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? I LOOKED EVERYWHERE!!

>>388397675
Aqua didn't fix anything though. In fact in can be argued that she ruined everything by throwing Terranort back into the realm of light rather than just finishing him off while he was unconscious or remaining in the RoL in case he ever got out.

>>388397675
Aqua never does shit aside from bitch at Terra and alienate him and weakly tell Ven to go home. The only reason she 'fixes shit' is because she's the last one to show up in most worlds, which is when that story is at it's conclusion.

Also Ven is only made of pure light because he literally had the darkness ripped from him, and also actually has a personality.

>>388397774
>Aqua didn't fix anything though. In fact in can be argued that she ruined everything
Aquafags will deny against that with all their might

>>388397402
>>388397484
>>388397523
Kairi's a 2D character who gets barely any screen time and Riku's okay but his motivations in 1 were really dumb and he's barely in 2. Whereas in BBS you play as all three characters and get to see how they value eachother from their different perspectives.

>>388397752
>that moment when Roxas learns his place in dream twtnw and realizes it has to be sora that saves the day due to all the hearts connected to his

>>388397759
To be fair he did save Kairi before she just got kidnapped

Riku disappeared behind a door and was never seen ever again by him until that moment and he looked like the very man who stole his body and got him trapped behind the door in the first place.

>>388397629
Mickey and Riku do alot of shit off screen. Aqua's the hero of BBS.

Also Sora's the protagonist, what do you expect?

>>388397896
Aquafags are retarded and don't know shit about the story.

>>388397908
You mean not at all?
Ven just bitches at Aqua, and slobbers over Ven
Terra has masculinity issues against Aqua though does care about Ven
Aqua likes them both, but neither of them like her

>>388383982
At least Ven probably gave Aqua the /ss/ dick, unlike Roxas.

Roxas is the real dog shit.

>>388397774
>>388397896
>>388398008

Her heart was in the right place. Also...it's probably a good thing she did save him in the end considering he would have eventually stumbled upon kingdom hearts since Sora and Mickey wouldn't have sealed the door yet.

>>388397481
If Roxas and Xion fucked would it be incest. If nobodies fucked, would they be able to bear children and would they even enjoy it since >no heart

>>388398095
To be fair, Aqua doesn't help with how she's always nagging Ven to go home (and we see what happens when he does go back), or how she tells Terra he's shit when he's already insecure about having darkness in him.

>>388390428
The spin-offs are shit and the mainline is the only good part of the series BUT the OCs actually are the best part. Deal with it.

>>388397759
>kh2
>thinks kairi is safe at home
>turns out she was kidnapped
>adds her to the where is mickey and riku questions he constantly asks throughout the game
>finds out org13 kidnapped her
>tells axel she's the most important thing to him
>literally begs saix on his hands and knees to take him to her
>hugs kairi back and shares a moment with her
>keeps his hand on her whilst talking to riku-ansem
>holds her hand in the ending
>smiles to himself when he sees that kairi has drawn her sharing half the paopu fruit with him

>>388398095
>Ven and Terra have a big/little bro relationship
>Terra and Ven care about Aqua but seem closer to eachother
>Aqua just wants her whole family to be together

>>388398235
>If Roxas and Xion fucked would it be incest
Yes and No.
>If nobodies fucked, would they be able to bear children and would they even enjoy it since >no hear
Unless semen comes from your heart in the KH universe then they should be able to.

>>388398246
The problem happened because he came home after finding out too much, and becoming strong enough to make an equal fusion with Vanitas, if he'd come straight home then Eraqus wouldn't have had to go nuclear on him

>>388398170
I was wondering when someone was gonna make this argument, as I have seen it before. And there are two major problems with it. One, he's unconscious for an indeterminate amount of time. And two, when he recovers he has no idea who he is or what he can do for a long time, meaning he would have likely gotten killed there.

>>388397958
>>388398264
Points taken. my apologies.

>>388397759
Kairi was safe at home the last time he saw her.
Riku was getting locked inside the Heartless dimension last time he saw him.

>>388397908
Kairi needs screen time plain and simple

Riku is forced to face his dumb ass actions in a huge basement void of all companionship except for Mickey, then has to work with a complete stranger to save his best friend and evade an organization of super powered husks, then fight the husk of his best friend to get him back and only do this by becoming the face of the evil he just fought off and has to live like that for a year.

I'd say we see him go through enough shit to see he cares about Sora and being a good person to boot

Left is so much better.

>>388397164
>Besides Roxas is the best protag anyways.
Found the 14-year-old with a YT channel full of Evanescence AMVs.

>>388398353
But Xehanort was already hanging around waiting for Ven to find out, so if he had it's doubtful Xehanort would have just let that be the end of it. Especially true since we know Xehanort can freely go to and from there, since he just kinda pops in to kill Eraqus.

>>388398353
What is so wrong with wanting some answers?

>>388398170
>he thinks the door to darkness was kingdom hearts
Refer back to this post please
>>388398008

>>388398359
And I offer the very shoddy counter argument that all that darkness would have only made him stronger...or something. I don't know.

>>388398398
Thankfully DDD's ending and 0.2 scenes seem to be setting her up to add to her character finally. I'm really hoping we see hers and Lea's training in KH3.

>>388398478
Nothing, but don't expect happy things after you get your answer

>>388398247
they aren't spinoffs though, and the entire thing is mainline.

KHUX: KH 0
BBS: KH 0.1
0.2: KH 0.2
KH1: KH 1
CoM/Days: KH 1.5
KH2: KH 2
Coded: KH 2.5
3D: KH 2.8

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>>388398567
>Boss battle against Kairi and Lea in KH3 when Sora meets them during their training
YES

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>>388398425
>Evanescence
>relevant in 2017

>>388398567
Who gave axel the ability to wield keyblade I wonder.

>>388398501
I don't think it quite works like that, but it probably isn't clarified enough either way. However I'm also pretty sure that you can't get Kingdom Hearts in the RoD, or at least not the Kingdom Hearts he was looking for since Kingdom Hearts is at least five different things at this point.

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>>388398657
>merlin uses his magic to conjure up data-sora for kairi and lea to fight in their time chamber
>mfw

>>388398729
Most likely Yen Sid since he is a former Keyblade Master (mentioned in BBS). Looks like it was done off screen though which is why it throws so many people off.

>>388398398
I guess my problem is that I didn't really bother playing CoM or 358/2. I did find the final scene of 2 pretty endearing though. I guess I just like BBS because all characters get equal screentime and development.

Mickey's probably my favourite KH character. I guess I just like straight up LG characters who go to great lengths to help people, even against their better judgement.

Fuck with all these goddamn spinoffs they should've made a stand alone Mickey game.

>>388398790
You need to χ-blade to be able to summon Kingdom Hearts.

>>388398095
>Ven just bitches at Aqua, and slobbers over Ven
I assume you mean slobbers over Terra. Ven clearly cared about Aqua. He was PISSED as fuck when Vanitas hurt her. Just because he was mad at her for a minute doesn't mean he dislikes her.

>Terra has masculinity issues against Aqua though does care about Ven
There is nothing that implies this. Terra was angry at her because she distrusted him, not because he was jealous. In fact, he even says she was right at the end before fighting Xehanort and stops caring about becoming a Master halfway through his story. There is no reason to believe he hates her.

Just because they had one fight doesn't mean they hate Aqua.

>>388398696
>Roxas
>relevant to anyone that isn't an angsty teenager

>>388398363
I thought it hilariously gay when I saw it first time. They have way more interaction together than Sora and Kairi do.

>>388398650
I was just using his own logic, anon.

1 and 2 are still the only really good ones, though. Others are decent at best and abysmal at worst.

>>388398854
>Fuck with all these goddamn spinoffs they should've made a stand alone Mickey game.
I don't think they were allowed to. Blame Disney for that.

>>388398790
Kingdom hearts is definitely deep in the realm of darkness but you can't just 'get' to it,which is why you need the X-blade.

He just tried several other methods in the even that it might be easier, including making a makeshift X-blade in BBS to access a some-kind-of-artificial Kingdom Hearts, or trying to get the 7 pure hearts from the princesses to make another kind of Makeshift X-blade (the keyblade of heart) probably to access the real kingdom hearts, or just trying to get power from a kingdom hearts made from people's hearts in KH2, but I don't know if you need any sort of X-blade for that since he didn't seem to try making something for it.

>>388398790
Sora is a walking kingdom hearts. He even has half of the x blade in him...or both since he saw Vanits in 3D
....?I wonder if that's why the kingdom key looks like the x blade actually because of his connections to Ventus, Vanitas and their fusion.

>>388398875
>Terra basically apologizes to Aqua and tells her that she was right
>Aqua responds by telling him that he's just gonna fuck up again
Why do people act like Aqua is the innocent one again?

>>388398946
Yeah, they're pretty autistic about their corporate mascot being used wrong when he barely has a character anyway.

>>388398801
It was the wooden keyblade that ventus let him hold in bbs desu. It sounds stupid enough to happen.

>>388399091
She was right though, like literally he goes and uses darkness again against Xehanort and lo and behold his heart's now weak enough for a body jacking

>>388399091
Because she was right. He did fuck up again by fighting Xehanort and letting him take him over. Although his hands were kinda tied. If he didn't fight, Xehanort would have just killed Aqua and Ven.

>>388399159
>>388399170
And her telling that probably didn't help. Also he had no way of knowing that Xehanort could possess people.

And then she goes and fucks up just as bad as he did.

>>388399091
>come to understand your weaknesses
>acknowledge your faults
>confide in what you think is one of your closest friends
>think she'll be able to help you through this
>aqua: "lol you're a fuckup you suck scrub haha"
No wonder Xehanort possessed him so easily.

>>388399126
False. There's nothing so far that tells us that.

>>388399226
Whether she tells him the truth to his face one more time or not, Terra never wants to understand that darkness is bad juju and shouldn't be used

>>388398946
wasn't that why Mickey barely had any presence in KH1, and even then he could only sort of be shown in silhouette

>>388399341
Yes. Disney only allowed them to use Mickey in a cameo appearance for KH1. They loosened the grip after the first game was a success though.

>>388399341
Yes, along with none of the Princesses in Hollow Bastion being allowed to interact with one another KH's success is why Disney gave him more room to work

>>388399170
In hindsight, none of them going to the obvious trap in the keyblade graveyard would have been the best course of action.
>>388399226
>shoots heart at terra
>terra stands there to try to use his armor instead of side stepping or attacking it like axel did for sora.

>>388399336
And strangely enough, his using darkness helped him when you consider that it lead to Xehanort getting knocked out and thus unable to get the x-blade and accomplish his goal.

Also Riku says hi.

>>388399336
There is nothing wrong with darkness if you can control it. Terra's only fault was going against someone much more experienced than him. If he had the time Riku had, or the help, he could have easily learned to control it. Eraqus was a faggot.

>>388399541
Xehanort would never have accomplished his goal in the first place if Terra didn't start drinking the darkness Kool aid, and Riku himself never says the darkness is cool and should just stay that way, his path is to use up the darkness till it's gone back to the light

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>>388399443
>0.2 actually gave an in universe explanation for mickey being shirtless at the end of kh1

Ventus was a waste and only in there because they needed a sora character. They could have written a better story if it were just aqua and terra

>>388399541
Riku isn't really a darkness user. He says so himself, he's in the middle of light and darkness, not fully immersing himself to either side.

>>388399637
Sure, just like using drugs is cool so long as you can control it

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>>388399670
>demon tide attacks mickey
>loses his shirt
>demon tide uses same attack on aqua but for even longer
>she doesn't lose a single thread off her clothes

>>388399762
>Implying it's not
Look at Xehanort, he's fucking ancient and still kicking the shit out of master level keyblade wielders that are in their 20's.

>>388399657
And yet Terra was only able to really fight Xehanort because of the darkness, as otherwise he was getting his ass kicked. It was really a lose-lose situation since otherwise Xehanort would have just incapacitated or immobilized Terra while he went down to make sure everything else went as planned. His goal required several different things to work on different fronts.

>>388399753
While this is true, he still accepts that he has to use it to some degree and that it isn't innately evil in itself.

>>388399670
That's actually kinda neat.

Is 2.8 worth getting? I hear 0.2 is really short and DDD isn't that good.

>>388399793
aqua is too powerful to be harmed

>>388395310
KH1's level design emphasizing platforming despite the game not being built as a platformer, and KH1's camera combined with the level design making the game artificially difficult (Peter Pan level especially suffered this).

>>388399509
Well to be fair, they had no choice. Vanitas told Ventus he would kill Aqua and Terra if he didn't show. Xehanort told Terra he would kill Aqua and Ventus if he didn't show. And I forget why Aqua went, but I'm sure there was a reason. If they didn't go they could have been sending their friends to their death, for all they knew.

>>388399885
Considering Terra's armor kicked Terranort's ass, Terra could have done it himself just as well if he'd tried rather than running to darkness

How much time investment does KHχ require to get to the story? I dont care one bit about how the game plays, I just want the story.

>>388399890
If you can find it on the cheap I'd say yes. 0.2 is about 3 hours long, up to 10 if you want to do all the challenges in it. DDD HD is the better version of the game and basically a better version of BBS. Plus you get an hour long movie called x Back Cover.

>>388399657
Xehanort just wanted Terra's swole body. If he failed to get his body than he probably would've gone and taken someone else's body


That being said, things would've gone very differently if he didn't rush in to fight Xehanort and let Mickey/Aqua take care of things.

>>388400084
His next target would have been Aqua IIRC. Ven was the first but failed to prove worthy.

>>388400079
I'll probably wait till it goes on sale then. I really enjoyed BBS' despite its flaws.

>>388400015
I'm pretty sure he was trying to begin with. Also Xehanort and only just acquired Terra's body and as such wasn't as used to using it.

>>388400084
Well someone had to do something about Xehanort, as otherwise he'd have just helped Vanitas deal with the others. Unless you believe Aqua could solo Xehanort, which I would say I'm skeptical of.

>>388400162
I can't see Vanitas out willing Aqua like he did with ven for their fusion.

>>388400162
Aqua was too much of a light fag for him to be successful. I'd assume he'd go for Braig or something.

Also does Sephiroth ever get any backstory? Xehanort in his body would be terrifying.

>>388400015
Lingering will hard darkness powers aswell.

>>388400084
If Mickey and Aqua rushed Xehanort they would have fucking died. Ventus was out of the fight. So it was Braig, Vanitas, and Xehanort vs Aqua and Mickey. Assuming Terra can take care of Braig and Vanitas by himself, then it's Aqua and Mickey vs Xehanort. Xehanort, who was so above Terra he froze his arm and out skilled him with the keyblade like he was nothing. He is a much more powerful magic user than Aqua at this point. And Mickey was a scrub weaker than Ven in this game. Remember that Xehanort wasn't trying to kill Terra, he was trying to get him angry and tire him out.

>>388400397
>b-b-but Aqua could beat Xehanort she's da most powerful in the franchise!

>>388400339
>does Sephiroth ever get any backstory?
No. At this point they're basically just their FFVII selves.

>>388400339
>loses body
>suit of armor no longer held back by terra's idiocy turns into a complete badass vs sora with all kinds of new attacks and an actual dodge

>>388400162
Aqua was the Ven back up, not the body back up

>>388395797
>>388395983
>charm is also so special that it could be used as a keychain(bright Crest)

Too bad Terra and Ven never used their charms as keychains too.

>>388400339
Sephiroth is just Cloud's darkness, like Tifa is Cloud's light

>>388400661
Bright Crest is a magic keyblade. It would have just slowed them down since they're STR/DEXfags

>>388400672
>Aeris is just a third wheel
So this is what it would have been like if she hadn't died in FFVII. Poor girl. Maybe she'll at least meat Zack in KH3. And get a better VA.

>>388400716
I figured it'd be tailored towards their personalities design wise since aqua's is heavily water designed. Wind for ven and earth for terra.

>>388400781
They're literally parts of him, do they don't really have a chance in the long term while Aerith and Cloud already seen close as shown by KH1's credits, also Zack's a Olympus Coliseum dude, no connections to the FF gang

>>388400870
>Zack's a Olympus Coliseum dude, no connections to the FF gang

Now that's not completely true given what happens to zack in the credits.

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>>388400781
>Maybe she'll at least meat Zack in KH3
>he doesn't know

>>388400474
>Lingering Will and Terranort fight in KH3
>Terra finally gets control of his body
>tearful reunion with Aqua and Ven

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>>388401098
>first crisis core's ending and then bbs

It's just not fair

>>388401148
>Kh3 is going to be full of heartwarming best friend forever moments in glorious visuals

This game is going to make me cry all over my controller isn't it?

>>388401316
At least he gets to bang ghost Aeris as AC shows us.

>>388401098
>implying Sephiroth won't make sure they end up together in KH3

>>388400474
>>388401148
Lingering Will is the most badass entity in the KH universe. I hope it kicks Xemna's, Terranort's, and Ansem's ass in order to win it's body back.

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>>388401352
>Kh3 is going to be full of heartwarming best friend forever moments in glorious visuals
>This game is going to make me cry all over my controller isn't it?
Remember that bittersweet scene of Kairi in the secret place looking at the cave paintings in KH1? Remember the scene of Sora and Kairi on the beach and how they quickly show Roxas and Namine as happy as well in KH2? Remember Roxas talking about his summer vacation at the end of 358/2 Days? It'll be all that times 100 I'm sure.

>>388401503
>tfw want fenrir keychain but don't want cloud(hades cup aside) and sephiroth to disappear forever.

Damn it why could you get it right after his battle

>>388401710
Just make a separate save file before you fight him.

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>>388401580
that was square soft we square enix now BABYYYYYYYYYY

>>388402131
It's still the same people behind it all though.

>>388402348
>osakateam

>>388402545
I meant like Nomura etc, still the same people writing and directing. So there's no reason to think we won't get another a beautiful bittersweet ending for KH3.

>>388397570
wrong aquafag. Kairi is the ONLY one with personality.

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>>388390386
>But Organization XIII is a significantly more fearsome villain than any of the Disney villains in the games. The OCs are the best part of the series.

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>>388384310
Friendly reminder for how to fix KH
>Soft reboot
>Maleficent is the source of the heartless
>Who Framed Roger Rabbit-inspired land called ToonTown, features different Disney districts that don't often intermingle
>Only OCs are Sora, Riku and Kairi
>No FF characters, heavy handed dialogue or needlessly convoluted plot
>The basic plot doesn't extend beyond "kid with giant key fights monsters to save Disney"

If you REALLY want, you can introduce Roxas just for that bittersweet KH2 intro, but introduce him as a separate character somehow intertwined with Sora's story

>>388403539
Sounds like shit

>>388403539
>Chernabog is the source of the heartless
FTFY. I dunno why Malificent is treated as THE Disney villain for KH instead of what is basically Satan. Even Genie Jaffar is more powerful than her.

>>388383982
Ventus was the only good thing from that game, it really showed how a character who was young to a point of crying when something bad happens,
and afraid of everything growing up slowly to the point of sacrificing himself to make everybody happy.
The other characters are dogshit, I still to this day can not understand why epople would like Aqua other than her body.

I really feel this game would of been better if it was just Ventus, it would feel a lot like KH1 where a young boy goes on an adventure and grows up slowly along the way and ultimately sacrifices his life.

>>388403753
I'd imagine it's cuz Maleficent has a greater degree of personality. Chernabog appeared in a musical, to give him dialogue and personality outside of being a big scary devil would ruin his character, unless you're going for something humorous like House of Mouse. That said, yeah, I can see Chernabog being endgame material

>>388403634
Kys

>>388404656
>Maleficent has a greater degree of personality
She's easily the best Disney villain, because only she is petty enough to do something like conjure a frost to kill Flora's garden.

>>388383982
No need to show the same thing twice

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>>388404849
>No need to show the same thing twice
Oh you are going to hate this series then.

>>388393520
The art is so fucking good though, damn

>>388393474
Don't forget DMC-kun who will always post that webm of some guy pressing triangle constantly over a youtube combo video.

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>>388405481
Indeed it is. Have always loved Nomura's artwork. It's a shame he's so busy these days. Though we will probably get a new artwork of the 5 new union leaders in a months time.

>>388393474
>ACkun who hates Ace Combat and loves shmups
Is this an ACfag joke or is there a new shitposter with a similar name

Reminder that I really want to kiss Namine on the lips!

>>388403539
that's a decent idea for a world, but if you think that would fix the series you're a pretentious idiot

>>388400040
Considering it isn't finished yet, and the story updates on a monthly basis, probably a good long while.

>>388383982
BBS is not bad but the reason the plot went to shit is because of a change in writing staff. Doesn't help that whatever hobo they got to voice direct BBS's English dub is a talentless hack.

Sora Riku and Kairi felt like friends, Terra Aqua and Ventus never really felt like friends. The latter's chemistry was non-existent because again, writing. Presentation is also worse, partially due to system limitations but they could have worked around it. Cutscene presentation dramatically decreased after the original KH. There's the rare bit of creativity but it's mostly very stiff.

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>>388406180

I can't wait for KH 3 5 in 10 years that will intoduce full single player KHux with system akin to KH1/KH2.

>>388406285
I doubt that will ever happen. The original browser version was reshaped into the mobage.

>>388406220
I wish Nomura would show art more often, though at least we'll likely get something when the anniversary hits next month

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>>388406741
Most likely an update to that one with all 5 union leaders since it's clear he hadn't come up with them last year as evidenced above.

>>388406802
Well, who knows really.

He said he didn't have the designs finished yet, but maybe he didn't want to give them away half a year before that story even started.

And who would the fifth character be? Strelitzia or Lauriam?

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>>388407040
I guess it all depends on where he goes with Lauriam. Whether he's actually a leader or just an impostor playing pretend. But since Strelitzia is now kill I don't think she'll be part of the artwork.

Only character that was remotely interesting or engaging in BBS was Xehanort's voice.

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>>388407258
>tfw no over the top gravelly master xehanort in kh3

>>388407040
Lauriam, he said in an interview the illustration he had of thr 6 people who were relevant to the new scenario, the black cloaked one wasn't Stalker-chan, and it seems Lauriam took the spot of the fifth, while he showed the interviewer a sketch he made of Stalker-chan

>>388407258
>Spock vs Luke can never happen again

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>>388397697
>KH3 might have a Castle Oblivion world where you fight using the cards again

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>>388408000
>using the cards again

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>>388406220
>the other two union leaders are only partially drawn
fucking nomura knew what he was doing

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>>388408000
I don't think they'd change the gameplay on us that radically for one small segment.

>>388408000
numbers confirm
still, they'd just make it flick rush


also anti black coat is the worst piece of shit ever

>>388384310
>focusing on the OCs hurt KH so hard

Kek, I've never even played KH1 because it's almost all Disneyshit.

>>388408000
>Situation Commands turn into a deck
mite b cool