/dsg/ - Dyson Sphere General

This is some godly shitposting

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>>388374640
This one's not a sphere, though.

>>388374640
stfu dyson queer

>>388374640
>dyson fans
That's not vidya

wtf even is this board these days

Some drawfag needs to draw that chick from 'A DEAL'S A DEAL' into a Dyson Sphere.

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POST SPHERES

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>>388377894

>>388378203
I don't get it. Shouldn't something that big just fall down?

>Sphere posting
This had better not catch on

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>>388377894
Why does Halo have the coolest spheres?

>>388378460

Better then frog posting

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>>388374640
>laidlaw invented halo

>>388378371
Are you blind? Look at 2nd panel - there are strings holding it in place.

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What games have Dyson spheres? I can't think of any.

>>388378503
I hate 343 but thanks for that sphere

>>388378371
Can you define what "down" is in space?

>>388378610
Stellaris
they're Dyson dodecahedrons and they're terribly fucking weak

>>388378610
>Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
>Halo Wars
>Prey 2006
>what would have been Half-Life 2: Episode 3

>>388378610
Freelancer

>>388378610
X3 had one in a mod. The Kha'ak hive in the vanilla game probably counts too.

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>>388378745

Here's to hoping 1.8 makes some adjustments

I am so fucking ready for Synthetic Dawn. Holy shit.

>>388374640
>shitposting increases with news about HL3
Imagine

>>388377147
>ironic posters baiting unironic posters
>ironic posters masqerading as unironic posters ironically ironic unironic

>>388378610
Stellaris
Endless space 2
Halo universe

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>>388374640

ONI Trevelyan Dyson Sphere

>>388378610
Homeworld.

>>388378994
>muh materialism

is the scene in Half-Life 2: Episode 3 where Gordan looks at the dyson sphere the greatest scene in all of gaming?

why is this dyson vacuum sphere meme being tied into half life?

>>388379172

To be fair spiritualists have really cool and interesting shit with the shroud

Synthetics have stat perks, but that's it.

>>388378994
>being hyped for a $10 flavor pack that doesn't actually fix the problems with the game
Me too.

Fucking Paradox.

>>388378792
>prey 2006

you are completely wrong there anon. dyson spheres by definition

>"A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure that completely encompasses a star and captures most or all of its power output"

the sphere in prey06 is a ship that flys around the abducting life and repurposing said life to maintain the sphere. also for them to be ground up into food.

>>388378203
>Everybody always posts that picture
>The City isn't even close to a sphere. It's just a giant mess, even on the outside

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>>388379237

I've been playing shitty mods to start as robots since the game was first released. Synthetic Ascension is cool, but you get buttfucked by ascended spiritualists basically every time

I've been waiting for this

>>388378203
I have no idea what layer of the onion any of these pics are trying to show.

>>388378610
Half Life 3

>>388374986
That's too mechanically complex for the size.

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>>388374640
STOP DYSON SPHERE POSTING YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>388379224
The Combine home system has one

FULLY

MODELED

SPHERES

>>388378371
No, but it would just collapse under its own weight and attract whatever is near it.

why would /v/ have a general for a vacuum? none of you faggots know how to clean.

>>388379405

If you dont have the military required to take down a fallen empire by the time you've finished your third unity tree you should probably kys

>>388379224
Turns out The Combine are Type II civilizations, meaning that shit the Combine sent to Earth would be the equivalent of the USA sending a bunch of monkeys with machine guns to conquer a planet.

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Are rings allowed?

>>388378371
>Shouldn't something that big just fall down?
Fall down where? Its space. There's no "down" for it to fall into in the first place.

>>388379224
Combine have a Dyson Sphere and are astronomically more powerful than we've been led to believe.

>>388379784

NERF THIS

>>388379784
no. theyre cool as shit but not a dyson sphere.

Wouldnt building a dyson sphere kill the system the sun inhabited? Like... We wouldnt want to build a dyson sphere around our own sun would we? We would find some system with dead worlds to build one right?

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>>388374640
Why would anyone ever build a Dyson sphere? Wouldn't it be more practical to have like lots of smaller colonies orbiting the star, instead of one fucknormous shell around it?

>alien force billions of times larger and more powerful than humans that could crush us instantly invades Earth
>Dr. Breen somehow manages to negotiate our survival as a species

Has there ever been a bigger hero?

>>388380041
>Like... We wouldnt want to build a dyson sphere around our own sun would we?

It would have to be big enough to encompass earth otherwise no light would get to the planet.

>>388380067
Brainlets should be banned from /dsg/.

>>388380067
Yes it is, the thought of a Dyson sphere being a complete sphere is a recent one and Dyson himself described what is now called a Dyson Swarm

>>388380041
Everyone just lives on the Dyson and all the planets turn into permanent night time Bladerunner cities.

>>388380067
Dyson sphere's aren't for "small" populations and/or civilian use only.

They're meant to support unfathomable population counts, as well as colony ships and system weapons. Its also called a sphere because it takes on a spherical shape, its just a bunch of rings or a large number of satellites. Its not a literal ball.

>>388380454

This.

Or we're smart enough to direct enough solar energy at targeted points on the home planet.

>>388380104
He probably pissed himself every night thinking what the combine could do.

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If the sphere envelops the star to harness the power, how do you build it around the star? Stars is be hot.

>>388379859
its in orbit

>Borealis hurtling towards the Combine "home world" staging area
>look up and see a Dyson where the system's sun is supposed to be
kino

>>388380725
You just put some sunscreen on it

>>388379784
man, if I was a space god I would make a fucking chainmail out of ring habitats, just floating interlocked in space

>>388380067
Yeah because a solid sphere would require so much material that you'd have to consume entire planets to build it. But the solid sphere design looks cooler than the swarm design

>>388380067
what is dyson swarm

>>388374640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlmKejRSVd8

>>388380821
But won't you burn?

>>388380760
Yeah and? Things in orbit are called in orbit because they don't fall ya twat.

>>388380104
What I want to know is where's the caveman?

>>388380863
> We're talking about Daisen Sphweals

What??

>>388380863
This guys videos are pretty interesting but his voice is so god damn ridiculous. It's like a retarded hick is narrating

>>388381116
>>388381205
did you expect someone non-autistic to be making these videos

>>388380863
why is elmer fudd narrating this

>>388379456
I think something like an omega planet.

Where the star is the core.

>>388380863
holy shit its homestar runner

>>388380041
Could a dyson sphere not be built to orbit a star with a hole to allow light for a planet?

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>>388380863
>dyson spheaaaww
Wat

So the Combine have a Dyson Sphere.
Does this mean they are a civilization that has conquered the entire universe or have potential to do so?
Are they like prime Eldars of 40k?

>>388380863

haha that pronunciation def sounds like a black Elmer Fudd

>>388378610
fuck

>>388381996
It means they are supreme.

>>388378994

What's new in Stellaris? I haven't played since megastructures were added in the first place. Last I heard they were stealing mods like the one to rebuild ringworlds for updates.

>>388381996
No.

>>388379584

In a sense yes, but only because a sphere around a star would eventually unbalance itself and collide with the star.

Dyson Swarms or rings are much more plausible and maintainable.

>>388379124

>something ends up breaking it apart
>creates millions of dwarf stars as the gravity of all that material coalesces

>>388382776

Wouldn't it just make one big star since it would probably collapse into one point due to gravity?

>>388380936
SPF50+ should do the trick

>>388380863
This guy genuinely has great videos. You don't even notice the speech impediment after a few dozen of them.

>>388380041
Yeah which is one of the reasons why dyson swarms are the more feasible option

>>388383503
>a few dozen
kek

>>388383503
>a few dozen
this is an absurd quantity to try and make sound small

>>388383503
I really would like to get into it because from what I've watched his videos are well researched and informative but the voice is so comedic. I wish he'd get a different person to narrate

Here's a good video to educate yourselves about Dyson Spheres:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlmKejRSVd8

>>388380104
The Combine seem to turn some enslaved species into synths for labor/warriors. All Breen probably did was convince the Combine that we would make better genetic material than we would target practice.

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>>388384020

>>388384020
see >>388380863

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>>388380863
>DUDE HIS VOICE LMAO

>>388380041
Yeah, but 90+% of systems are pretty useless.
You probably have to disassemble all the planets for the materials to make the sphere in the first place

Also you could just leave a window or something. Only like one billionth of the sun's energy actually has any effect on the planets, the rest just radiates endlessly into the void of space.

>>388380821
I thought they were using the water as a coolant

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>>388378610
Star Trek online has two, you fight in the new one against ancient dinosaur people and the other is the same as in TNG, but this time in the delta quadrant.

Turns out ancient race #1102842 (Iconians) built thousands of the damn things.

>>388384561
i love his videos
but his speech impediment makes it kind of awkward to listen to

>>388384665
>Leave a window
Holy shit we have a genius

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Can you youngsters explain to me this hip new meme called "Dyson Sphere"?

>>388384989
Basically you build a bunch of shit around a star to collect the fucktons of energy it puts out, and use it to power everything, among other uses.

>>388380041
Terraforming Venus is more likely to happen.

>>388384989
"Bruh, what if we, like, built a really big solar panel around the sun instead of killing our planet with fossil fuels?"

>>388384989
There was one featured at the end of the HL3 summary that came out the other day. It basically means humanity is completely fucked against the Combine.

>>388378994
>1.8 makes some adjustments
The combat changes are going to mix things up enough to ruin quite a bit of what we know right now about space battling.

>>388380835
If I were a space god I'd shape a planet like a dick and force people to live on it.

Where the fuck are we going to get the raw materials to even make a dyson sphere?

>>388380863
JUST

>>388381996
>Does this mean they are a civilization that has conquered the entire universe
No. Why would it?

>>388385292
Completely tear apart useless planets like Mercury Mars Pluto and the various moons around the gas giants

>>388383554
I don't know, the risk of collision between them seems too high for whatever benefit they offer.

>>388385292
we never will

>giant solar panel around a star
How do they transport the energy to other planets?

If the collectors have a dyson sphere why can't they kill one physicist with a crowbar?

What are some books with megastructures?
Pushing Ice was fucking rad

>>388385292
>>388385381
There's not even enough materials in the entire solar system to build a Dyson sphere.

>>388385524
wifi

>>388385530
They don't give enough of a shit

How about a crowbar the size of an entire universe, would that be enough to defeat the combine?

>>388385216
>It basically means humanity is completely fucked against the Combine.
They just have to build a Dyson Sphere too and they'll stand a chance.

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What about if, instead of dreaming about dyson spheres, we master nuclear fusion and use minisuns to power ou're nintendos?

>>388385292
STARLIFTING


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzuHxL5FD5U

>>388385534
Pandora's Star/Judas Unchained and the Void trilogy by Peter F Hamilton have a few. There's a few more in other Alastair Reynolds books too - Revelation Space/Redemption Ark/Absolution Gap have a few.
On the smaller scale there's books like Rendezvous with Rama and Eon.

>>388385612
Yet he fucked up a lot of their Earth shit. And Earth is important because muh time travel machine.

Also, they can build a dyson sphere and have conquered thousands of alien races but haven't figured out time travel before humans did?

>>388383696
I know. It took me literal weeks of listening to maybe one or two videos a day to get used to it.

>>388385534

Pandora's star has something similar to a dyson sphere in it. But it's more like a prison. Good series about future humanity with trains going through wormholes and shit instead of starships

>>388385820
I don't actually remember megastructures in Revelation Space.

>>388385292
Watch the video
>tear apart a small amount of, say, Mercury, to make a bunch of solar energy collecting satellite things
>use some of that energy to pump some mass off the sun
>use more of that energy to transmute the helium/hydrogen you got from the sun into more useful construction materials through fusion

>encasing a star in a sphere

why? if you wanted to create a gigantic habitable zone 1 AU away from the star in every direction sure, but it would be perpetual day all the time inside.
But it's insanely impractical. The resource cost that would be necessary to construct would be literally astronomical.

>>388385821
>but haven't figured out time travel before humans did?
Well, humans discovered it using their technology.

>>388385970
you don't live in the thing, dummy.
the energy is highly profitable, it would be worth it.

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Okay stay with me
What if we build a cubic dyson sphere?

>>388385561
Dyson spheres are pure science fiction. Dyson swarms is the one that's possible

>>388385970
You're not creating a habitable zone, you're collecting energy. You build habitats for living space.

>>388385918
Cerberus/Hades. The sequels have the Sun Singer and the Brane device respectively

Where would someone get all the matter to make a sphere around the sun? There wouldn't be enough matter in the solar system to cover the surface area of the sun, let alone enough to cover a sphere a larger diameter of the sun.

>>388386123
Ah I guess those are technically megastructures; well, at least Cerberus/Hades. I thought the brane thing was much smaller--an object on the planet--although it has been years and my memory is fuzzy.

>>388386176
Synthetics

>>388386176
You get the mass from the Sun.

>>388385970
Constructing one is ridiculously expensive and time consuming. But once it's done the payoffs are immense, a properly constructed Dyson sphere would provide nearly limitless energy, contain more habitable area than the entire galaxy combined, and would make the construction of further Dyson spheres all the easier. Imagine a civilization with limitless energy and a galaxy's population per sphere, with thousands of spheres. The payoff is unfathomable.

>>388386070
sphere uses less resources

>>388386070
KIKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>388385662
Unfortunately the HL resistance is not The New Order and cannot pull gigantic cosmic superweapons out of their asshole.

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>>388386070
What if we gathered the energy from gentalhas?

>>388374640
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>>388374640
>>388374640
>>388374640
>it's an underage faggot just learning about dyson spheres episode

holy shit, how are there so many of you fucking retards?

Mods, please consider moving this thread to /sci/ instead of deleting it. They would probably get a kick out of it.

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>>388386350
A dyson sphere made up from rents, imagine that.

>>388386176
You can either harvest mass from the sun (requires much better technology) or harvest mass from thousands of other star systems (takes literal eons). It'd be worth it in the end, but using the latter method it could take millions of years.

>>388386176
If you have the capability to build a dyson sphere, you have the capability to strip mine entire solar systems too. If one doesn't yield enough resources, strip mine another and import the materials.

how do planets get light if the sun is covered

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>>388386412
DYSON SPHERE POWERED UP BY HAM SANDWICHES

>>388386380
Did you miss the news Thursday night?

It's just memery about what could have been, the Dyson sphere played a big part in it all.

>>388386532
Either the sphere doesn't 100% cover the sun, or they simply don't. Most the planets in the solar system were probably strip mined for the materials to build the sphere anyway.

>>388386532
protip: they don't

But nah just fucking angle the mirrors or whatever, it's fine. Or better yet, just stop living on planets.

>>388379327
do you have a source on this?

>>388385965
yeah. the logistics are insane, but it's fun to imagine I guess
>theoretically you can use Earth as one of the rungs of the ladder
Lmao

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>>388374640
Who else is disappointed, that the Combine is merely a type 2 civilisation on the Kardashev scale?
Humanity still has a chance.

>>388379867
Do we know who the g man is? Is he more powerful then the combine?

>>388386252
I wonder what the world would do if it had qasi-unlimited energy. Would all conflict end?

>>388387109
If he was more powerful than the Combine he wouldn't be employing a random physicist, would he?

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>>388377894

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>never even heard of what a Dyson Sphere was prior to the blogpost
>had to look it up
>still didn't understand the magnitude of what it meant until someone on /v/ explained it

I-I'm not the only one, right

>>388387019
nigga we aint even a type 1
we are a fucking type 0

>>388378745
>>388378994
>>388379237
>>388379405
Endless Space is better by the virtue alone that Paradox has nothing to do with it.

>>388387148
We'd probably just develop a ridiculous super weapon

>>388387109
Nothing concrete.

My money's on him being an agent of some rival civilization to the Combine that would really prefer that the Combine not get their hands on the Borealis' "teleport anywhere" tech.

>>388387019
We don't know what the Combine is, only that they're at least type 2. They could have a Dyson sphere/swarm around every single star in their home galaxy/universe, not to mention the countless other universes they've invaded. It could just be one Dyson sphere, or it could be infinite Dyson spheres.

>>388380761
Wow and they didn't want to release this in the fear we would be disappointed?

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Wouldn't you need more energy and resources to be able to completely farm enough planets of their resources to create a Dyson Sphere than you'd get out of it?

>>388387338
yeah but we already have a super weapon now (nukes).
why do we need a planet destroyer? to kill hostile ayylmaos?

>>388380725
Use the energy you got from the star to make it cool

>>388387263
If the teleporting tech gets refined and had they kept the Borealis this would've no longer been the case.
But fucking Alyx was a Manchurian candidate. Fuck THAT shit.

>>388387481
Nope, stars burn for a zillion years. Lifting matter for 800 years is nothing.

>>388387481
No????
Do you know how much potential energy a star even one as relatively average as ours releases every second

The possible net gain of energy is unfathomable so much so one sphere would allow you to build hundreds more

>>388387263
We are around 0.7 on the scale to be precise
Fun fact - from 2012 to 2015 we actually lowered a bit of our global power consumption, making us go back a little bit on the scale

>>388387481
Te energy provided by a Dyson Sphere in a day could be a billion times more than what you used to get there in the first place, now remember how much stars live, now consider the possibility of turning that energy to never actually die out within that time.

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>>388387614
>>388387626
What happens when the star goes supernova? Do they make some means of disassembling and transporting the sphere to a new star?

>take borealis to the nearest black hole
>create one portal near the black hole
>go to Combine Sphere
>create another portal there
>see the Black Hole suck the entire star
>????
>profit

>>388387148
People would build bigger and sillier weapons and start conflicts because its fun/showing off their new toys.

>>388387742
The progress provided by 0.00000001% of the star's lifespan would make questions like this completely inconsequential.

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>>388387716
So why doesn't humanity start making a Dyson Sphere now. Start small like with solar array panels orbiting Mercury or Venus and expand from that into a full sphere? If the energy the sun provides is that abundant any investment it would require to make even the beginning of a sphere would pay off in the first few minutes it was up

>>388387872
Finding the black hole could be hard

>>388387742
Not all stars go supernova
It could turn into a red giant which would require an expansion of the sphere

But if you were to have a sphere over a star for its entire life time it would be assumed you would have advanced so far in tech that even the energy output of a star would be irrelevant

At the point a species would be capable of inter dimensional travel definitely

so how would you build a structure that is larger than a star yet somehow doesn't collapse under its own gravity and simply become a new star or even worse a black hole

>>388387742
by the time that happens they wouldve fuvked off to another galaxy

>>388387571
>year 3548
>not wanting a weapon so mindbogglingly overpowered that when it goes off its like god lighting his fart

>>388387019
A star the size of ours outputs approx 3.86 x 10^26 watts per SECOND
At our current technology we use approximately 1.77 × 10^9 watts per YEAR

what about Mike Tyson Spheres

>>388387742
You don't give a shit at that point
You've been getting essentially limitless power for aeons, on top of already having the capability of building the thing in the first place.
If you haven't ascended to some sort of collective energy sentience or something, you still have had a trillion times return on your investment to develop technology further. If it is efficient to move the sphere, then you could do it. If it isn't, then you wouldn't bother.

>>388387940
we do not have the materials to handle the harsh conditions of space,
You would also need a fuel source for construction vehicles or people to stay in space for generations to create it
Its better to stay on earth till we make better materials and ways to build one

yall reading sum blame?

>>388387940
We can barely send research probes to Mars right now, what makes you think we have anywhere near the tech necessary to start a dyson sphere?

>>388387940
If you think about it, aren't regular solar panels technically part of a dyson swarm?

>>388387742
If you remove enough mass from a star than it won't go supernova.

>>388387940
Because it's expensive to get started and people care more about funding stuff more immediately relevant to their lives than funding something as abstract and fantastic sounding.

>>388387742
Any civilization with a sphere would be be able to either just pack up the sphere and move to a new star, or just not give a shit about the old sphere and just leave.

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>>388388021

>>388378610
flashtrek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_OQEyw08Bw

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thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi57d50pCUw

>>388387958
No it's not? Just go to the center of a galaxy

>>388387940
>Dude why didn't the egyptians just google how to build a skycraper

>>388387109
I see a theory posted a lot that he's an inter-dimensional guardian of sorts attempting to end the war between the Combine and their unknown enemy and all of the multidimensional fuckery that comes with it. To that end he's destroying all means of inter-dimensional travel so that these incomprehensibly large empires will stop fucking up the multiverse with their wars. He succeeded in killing the Nihilanth and destroying his army, he failed to eliminate the Vortigants, he nuked Black Mesa to prevent any teleportation technology from falling into Combine hands, he succeeded in destroying the Borealis (which was by far the most powerful teleportation yet), and by cutting off the Combine from Earth he has prevented them from ever finding any traces of that technology that remain.

>>388388015

1 watt is one joule per second. You cannot have watts per second.

>>388386539
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>>388386070
What's with all the spics

>>388387940
You know how our satellites have solar panels on them?
That's basically the beggining of a Dyson Swarm.
Eventually, when we can more cheaply put stuff in space, having several hundred solar panels in space around Earth powering various facilities is very realistic. That's how we're gonna start off on building one.

>>388387940
in the video posted earlier ITT, the autistic guy said we would have to obtain materials from Mercury to meet the needs of a dyson sphere design.
The amount of effort to design and build it would take thousands of years or hundreds of thousands of years or...
Hard to even fathom at this point.

>>388387940
The problem is TRANSPORTING all that energy. Our current technology has absolutely no means of transporting that shit to Earth for example without losing 99.9999999999998% of it, AND the materials of the medium used to transport that energy through millions of kilometers.

>>388388303
No hard radiation there to screw up everything, not at all!

>>388387940
You can't get something into orbit with electricity.

Engineer an electric space shuttle first.

>>388388502
if we get to a point where a Dyson sphere is built, I would imagine we would have left the planet Earth and lived on the sphere

>>388380067
I may be too dumb for this, but I have no ide what's supposed to happen once the star inside a Dyson sphere finally dies. What, they move the sphere around space, looking for more suns to eat?

>>388388380
>having several hundred solar panels in space around Earth powering various facilities is very realistic

Not in the next 70 years.

>>388388623
stars live for a 'long' time though. More than enough time to setup the next expedition.
If humanity build one sphere, they can build another

Question.

If the why did the Combines wanted Apertures tech when they already had a Portal connecting Earth to their homeworld?

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>>388388380
So wouldn't the most easiest and abundant form of energy for now be to throw as many solar array panels into the sky as we can since they'd get more energy in space than on the surface of our planet?

>>388388486
The real problem is motivation, because even if we had the technology and know-how to construct and utilize a Dyson swarm RIGHT NOW, it's going to be a hell of a struggle to convince the majority of the human race that its best interests lie in dedicating the next few thousand years to constructing a megastructure that will claim all of their time and money. Unless human society undergoes a radical shift to the point that billions of people will sacrifice resources towards a common project that won't be finished for hundreds of generations it's unlikely that we'll ever build one.

>>388388612
It's not really possible to do that because of heat buildup inside the sphere unless you had a really, really good way to get rid of it.

>>388387257
No you are not the only underage person on /v/.

>>388388728
Because that portal was, from their point of view, a random occasion, something they didn't create?
What if someone shut down the portal? They wanted to be safe.

>>388388757
That's why we need the EMPERAH

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>>388388812
I'm 25

>>388380041
You build a Dyson sphere at >1AU from the sun so it encompasses the earth's orbit. Of course anything outside of the sphere will just freeze to near absolute zero but it's not like there actually IS anything alive in the outer solar system.

>>388388742
it would be very costly to build all the satellites and you would need a lot
Also we have literally just invented a way to remotely send energy across distances a few months ago and it is still very weak

>>388377147

You think this is bad you should see /tv/.

>>388388623
The star would live for hundreds of millions, potentially billions of years before that. That's a helluva lot of energy you'll harvest in that time. Why would you need to move the sphere? You've probably built plenty more since then, having infinite energy already from your first sphere will make the next one all the easier.

Why a stupid sci-fi theory generates so much attention

>>388388757
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I think the 'easiest' possible answer is that people would have come up with a way to artificially extend their lives to a point where there is a vested interest in building the sphere. Plus, there are always optimists, altruists, etc. It's not impossible

>>388388728
Aperture tech could make portals at any time at any place. Combine had to have their HQ open teleports to Earth, it was impossible for anyone on Earth to make a teleporter to the Combine. In episode 1 when the citadel gets owned they need to contact the mother HQ to tell them to get the fuck to Earth and help out. With Alyx and Gordon having shut off the portal in EP2 the only way for the combine to not be fucked is the borealis.

With the borealis destroyed the combine on earth would be permanently stranded and outnumbered. It's a pretty good outlook for humans.

>>388388814

How? Xen portals were closed on HL1.

If they didn't had the dimensional portal tech yet, how did they managed to have a portal to another dimension, their dimension.

>>388380725
You build it far away so the energy is distributed over a larger surface. How do you figure the earth isn't toast yet?

>>388388684
Certainly.
But still something definitely possible even with today's technology.
>>388388742
There's 2 problems with this.
You can't put things into space cheaply. The costs of moving 1kg of material into space is in the millions.
There's no good way to transfer that energy down. A good way to solve that is to simply put your facilities next to the panels, but if you can build all that stuff in space, then you don't have that problem in the first place.
Space elevators, space rings, etc etc could solve this problem in a few generations.
In our lifetime though, probably reusable rockets.

>>388378610
Star Trek Online has several. You even fight massive fleet battles inside one.

Is a Dyson Sphere even physically possible? I mean a star is already big as fuck, imagine building a whole structure around it.

>>388379215
yes

>>388388790
the humanity that builds the sphere may have figured out a way to deflect or absorb the heat
it's possible, just not for us today.

>>388388902
Dyson spheres aren't really mainstream, lots of normalfags hearing about them for the first time. Personally I think it's a good thing, more people talking about actual science-fiction means more interest in science in general.

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>tfw I will die of natural causes before getting to see a Dyson Sphere and evolving into immortal godhood
>tfw the peak achievement of being born in this era is getting SJWs to fuck off from gaming

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>>388388902
because it's fun to imagine stuff. don't you have an imagination, anon?

>>388389004
technically
It would just take generations to build

>>388389004
It's theoretically possible, but there's no way humans will be able to even start building one for a good few millennia.

>>388389063
>>tfw I will die of natural causes before getting to see a Dyson Sphere and evolving into immortal godhood

Who cares. I just want to see anime become real before anything.

how tf do you harvest a star's energy in the first place? like just have the inside of the sphere lined with big ass solar panels? would that work?

>>388388742
Putting stuff in orbit is currently very expensive. This is part of the reason asteroid mining is an economically attractive prospect, t means we could manufacture everything on-site without having to haul all that crap up there

>>388389129
I think a millennia would be an overestimation just because technology moves at an exponential rate

>>388388860
and what if the solar output bounces off the inner part of the sphere and give us a double dose of its pimping?

>>388389191
Solar, thermal and whatever other radiation you can get.

>>388389063
>ywn have your consciousness uploaded to a data scape and live out any dream you wish

>>388389217
Unless we reach a wall

>>388389207
The entire sphere would catch all of the thermal energy from the star if it was entirely encased. You make use of that.

>>388389063
yeah. we're probably all going to die before qasi-eternal life and infinite power
oh well. whatever lol

>>388374640
I'm enjoying dysonposting

>>388389275
>the wall is not having infinite energy
JUST

>>388389004
There's nothing in science that says it shouldn't be possible.
In fact, we could potentially make early Dyson Swarms with today's tech, although a full Sphere would take millenia to build.

DUDE HOLD THE FUCK UP

>DYSON SPHERE
>FREEMAN DYSON
>GORDON FREEMAN
HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN PLANNED

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>>388388942
>The costs of moving 1kg of material into space is in the millions.
Actually with the recent development in rocket technology (namely SpaceX's reusable launchers) that price is soon to fall in the <$1000 range. Which is still expensive but increasingly affordable.

(if anyone is wondering why the space shuttle was so expensive: it was just that inefficient)

>>388386252
Maintenance would be a bitch, though.

>>388389228
Of course solar panels will never be 100% efficient but I gotta assume that by the time we get a full dyson sphere going light reflections towards earth will stop being an issue.

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>>388389413
At least as long as the Combine. Their fucking logo is a dyson sphere.

>>388389527
I thought it was a casaba howitzer.

>>388389438
Anon, a civilisation with that kind of technology and infastructure has trillions of population and probably access to machines that can do everything for them.

>>388389438
By the time dyson spheres are feasible we'll have intelligent robots to do the work for us.

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>>388389527
>Their fucking logo is a dyson sphere
DEEPEST LORE

Post the fan screenshots that were made, those are good af.

>>388389317
yeah no use stressing about it tbqh

>>388389427
>he fell for the spacex meme
It's a scam.

>>388389438
>ywn be nu-human w/ 240IQ wearing a thermal suit gundam covered in mirrors to float towards a leaky pipe

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Why go through all the effort of building a Dyson sphere, when you could build a Chaos Dyson sphere instead?

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Did the Borealis use the same portal travelling technology that we get to use with the portal gun in the Portal games?

>>388389738
the post said it was an experimental version of a new portal tech that did not need entry or exit portals

>>388389738
I don't think it was the same as it was warping in between dimensions, the portal gun only really creates portal in the same dimension but the concept is kinda similar, probably some sort of prototype.

>>388389637
You're an idiot. Why do you think reusable first stages were such a big deal? Did you figure the entire space industry was concurrently running an elaborate scam or something?

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>create Von Newmann probes that land on a planet then target the system's star and create a dyson sphere around it to power massive factories and habitation
>every star becomes dyson'd
>Humanity can live wherever they want, with the only limiting factor becoming travel time
>become a type 3 civilisation

>>388389687
the fuck happened to yugioh man

>>388389619
or another perspective is that life is pretty good for most people right now
we could have been some fags playing in the dirt and dying of malaria
I got the AC runnin, drinking clean water, shitpostin on the web and listenin to some music. it's pretty nice all things considered

ITT: shit that will never happen during our lifetime

>>388389868
yeah but if humanity really does just get better overall from here on out, in the grand scheme of things we'd be the unlucky ones since the majority of humans will be born in the future rather than in the bumfuck past we're living in now

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We will never get to build Dyson spheres unless world-wide communism is achieved long, long before that. The only way we could ever move an inch further on the Kardashev scale is if all of humanity rid themselves of the ruling class and workers put their might into crafting technology for the advancement of mankind, not for a petty profit.

>>388389868
>drinking clean water

not for long that's for sure

>>388390017
>communism
maybe world peace and a focus on science would work better

>>388389868
>pretty good
>drummpf elected

>>388389974
who knows, I mean what if it goes tits up and everything becomes completely dystopian? like only a few people live eternally or can reproduce or live well, etc?

>>388390137
he's president for 3 or 7 more years. you'll be okay, anon

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>>388390017
Yeah, that's why all of these communist countries in existence today are such pinnacles of technological development.

Oh wait, they're not. Let me guess, it's not "real" communism?

>>388390017
Or we could just kill all niggers and jews.
Imagine a world without them, we'd get K3 in a lifetime.

>>388389868
Life isn't good for most people

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>>388380863
This guys talks like a baby

>>388374640
whatever. I personally think half life 3 entirely being set on a dyson sphere megastructure comprising of the combine homeworld around a distant, massive star would have been fucking incredible. certainly would be different that's for sure

What if a Dyson Sphere forces a star to go into supernova earlier than expected?

>>388390017
>communism
>before matter conversion
not gonna happen until a pile of sand can be made into gold, until the things that create greed can be addressed, it will persist.

>>388390313
Do you know what makes a star go supernova?

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Maybe one day we can could build our own dyson sphere and we can all finally play video games in peace

>>388390313
Did you even go to school, nigger?

>>388390276
>everything sucks for most people waaaaaaaa
>he's on his computer, posting on the internet as are millions of others
top fucking kek

>>388390313
>create Dyson sphere
>use it to reduce the mass of the star

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>>388390384
>>388390458
are you niggers dumb or something? depletion causes a star to go supernova

>>388390441
Or maybe we ARE the videogame anon.
Look into the ancestor simulation hypothesis. The chances of us actually being real are in the one in a million.

>>388390543
Now do you know what a Dyson sphere does?

>>388390441
>ywn create the ultimate gaming PC/Matrioshka brain
I mean I guess the lag between stars would be a bit of a problem, but still.

>>388390586
It depletes the star.

>>388379215
I don't even understand, how is the player supposed to be flabbergasted by the dyson sphere if Gorson cannot emote? What if the player doesn't know what a dyson sphere is? Is Alyx the one that's supposed to go Mrs. Exposition and we're supposed to be shocked with her?

>>388380863
alright guys, stop the bullying

>>388390656
Nope. The star depletes itself, but instead of radiation going out into space and doing us no good, it gets turned into energy by the sphere.

>>388390665
The player loses control of Gordon and he drops his crowbar, or something.

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>>388390656
HAHAHAHA

>>388390543
American education, everyone.

all of you faggots think dyson spheres are some kind of mega ship for us to live on. THE SPHERE IS ONLY THERE TO COLLECT THE ENERGY RELEASED FROM THE STAR NOT A FUCKING SPACE SHIP FUCKING RETARDS FUCK

>>388390656
t. brainlet

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>>388378203
>>388379327
Superior City art.

>>388390880
I bet he's europoor tough

>>388390656
It doesn't deplete the star. Star burns out at its own rate. We just become capable to use what it's putting out because of sphere.

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>spherelets
http://www.orionsarm.com/eg-article/552d31f1832b6

>>388390886
I knew that, it's logical, that's the whole point of making it around the sun

>>388390656
lmfao a dyson sphere depletes the sun as much as as a solar panel does

>>388378610
Mass Effect Andromeda had a very nice one.

>>388390918
Post more blame! porn

Explain how you get that huge amount of energy back to earth.

>>388390986
people itt are talking about moving everybody onto the sphere. or having earth put into the sphere. they dont understand what a dyson sphere is.

>>388391093
Ever heard of a thing called batteries you fuicking retard

>>388391093
You beam it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wireless_power_transfer

>>388391093
You wouldn't. You'd build infastructure and habitats around the panels.

>>388374640
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECLvFLkvY7Y

best Dyson sphere.

>>388391138
If you have the technology & materials to make a Dyson sphere, it should be easy to make a section. For a structure that big, you also need a shit ton of people to maintain and monitor the whole installation so you might as well all live on it or close to it.

>>388391138
>year 24012494
>we have the technology to build a dyson sphere
>we don't have the technology to live on it
kek

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>>388391074
>tfw no blame! game

>>388388303
I mean if we get to the point of moving the black hole at the center of our galaxy, we should probably consider that might have negative effects on the galaxy.

>>388391243
This
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrM3f7Bil5A

Is Sphereposting the next big meme?

>>388391292
I watched the movie and it was pretty ok, I really like the setting. Is the manga worth reading?

>>388391279
thats not a dyson sphere.

>A Dyson sphere is a hypothetical megastructure that completely encompasses a star and captures most or all of its power output.


VERBATIM

>>388387109
Nothing on G-Man.
It was supposedly Episode 3's story, which would have lead into HL3.

G-Man is likely an employee of a race, or coalition that is fighting the Combine.

They clearly don't give a shit about Earth, but Xen obviously has something worthy there, though, again, they don't seem to actually care about the vortigaunts.

>>388391292
NaisanceE has a really similar aesthetic to Blame, although there's not much to the game other than puzzles and walking sim.

>>388391058
it looked like shit actually just like the rest of the game did.

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If you build a Dyson Sphere around a star, do all the orbiting planets just fly off into space? Because they lose LOS on the star they lose it's gravitational pull, right?

>>388380863
>think elmur fudd fags are shitposting
>he puts elmur fudd in the fucking video

>>388391432
???
at what point did it mention
>VERBATIM
that it could not be inhabitable???

I'm laughing at you

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>>388391525

>>388391525
Yes, that's why you float inside your house.

>>388387019
>merely a type 2 civilisation
Nigga, do you not realize how fucking powerful that is?

>>388391525
There. Happy now?

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>>388391421

Manga is wayyy better than the movie desu. Check out Biomega too, it's done by the same guy. Worth a read if you like motorcycles and a crazy alternate version of Earth that stretches out in billions of kilometers like a long snake.

>pic related

>>388391525
No. They Dyson sphere would block a lot of the gravitational waves and cause some of the outer objects in orbit like Pluto and Neptune would lose orbit.

>>388391562
>hurr we can do this cause that
>then it becomes this and and not
>i.e NOT A DYSON SPHERE SON
BTFOOOOOOOOOO HOW WILL YOU EVER RECOVER?

>>388391525
Is everyone on /v/ this uneducated or is it some faggot just making several bait posts?

>>388391525
Dunno if you're trolling, but gravity doesn't work by line of sight. It's infinite and goes through everything.

If anything, all the extra mass from the sphere would cause the planets to either crash into it or slingshot out of the solar system or get caught in new orbits or any number of thing.

It wouldn't be good for stability.

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>>388391525
Did you go to school?

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>>388391421
The manga is god tier, the movie is meh.
>I really like the setting.
read it

>>388388623
Depending on the kind of star you're using, that could be trillions of years after you build the sphere.

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DOES ANYONE EVEN HAVE A PICTURE OF WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE TO BE INSIDE A DYSON SPHERE?????????????