Is half life overrated?

Half-Life 1 is a glorious masterpiece of level design, weapon design, atmosphere, and enemy design. It's truly fantastic at how effective it is at destroying open world meme kiddies like yourself.

>>388375005
thanks anon

Half-life was great because it was the more story heavy shooter unlike any other.

Half-life 2 was hailed for its graphics. Both are pretty overrated in my opinion.

>>388374116
>Half-Life (stylized as HλLF-LIFE) is a science fiction first-person shooter video game developed by Valve, released in 1998 by Sierra Studios for Microsoft Windows.
>1998
what were you expecting?

>>388375153
Hl2 was hailed for its physics.

Pretty much. Straight line level design with non stop obnoxious set pieces (headcrab behind every door and in every vent), terrible weak weapons, bullet sponge enemies, glitchy and slippery movement, braindead puzzles. That's not even mentioning the negative impact it and its sequel had on the genre. Play older FPS games, even shit like Redneck Rampage is more fun than HL despite its flaws.

>>388375260
True, it's a bit too new you have to go back further for the good fps games

>>388374116
>What is pacing and the importance of quiet time?
Unless you have ADHD, this is the best way to design a game.

>>388375472

i agree with this post except for the part about redneck rampage

>>388375005
>glorious masterpiece of level design
>"on a rail", the water boat one from HL2, and fucking Xen exist
I like the games too, but you have to admit flaws where they are.

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>>388374116
Any game can be called overrated if you simplify it down to the simplest gameplay possible.

Left 4 Dead:
>leave saferoom
>walk
>walk
>shoot some zombies
>walk
>walk
>enter saferoom

Mount and Blade:
>walk
>walk
>capture a lord
>walk
>walk

New Vegas:
>walk
>walk
>shoot mutant
>walk
>shoot raider
>walk
>walk

Splatoon:
>walk
>shoot ink
>walk
>shoot ink
>walk

Audio, visual design, pacing, and all sorts of other things tie into a game and the experience of playing a specific game.

>>388375260
>quoting Wikipedia

Anyone can edit it, for all I know it came out last year.

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>>388374116
i dont like how hard makes all the enemies really tanky
fucking headcrabs take 3 crowbar hits for example
and normal is too easy
I feel like half-life 2's hard was very well balanced

>>388375908
>Any game can be called overrated if you simplify it down to the simplest gameplay possible.

>list 4 overrated games

I mean Splatoon?Fucking splatoon?The most cancerous non indie game of the decade?Are you even trying?

>>388375716
You can have pacing and quiet time without making a game boring. Long stretches of cinematic nothing are a meme pushed by devs inspired by hollywood. It also barely exists in the HL sense in many games and genres, yet nobody complains because they don't need the devs acting like their mommey. If they're tired of action they can stop playing and come back later.

>>388375153
god damn you are so dumb

>>388376127
I personally did not like splatoon but I wanted to use some different games to get my point across

>>388374116
You mean:
>bunny hop
>bunny hop
>bunny hop
>shoot a couple of aliens
>bunny hop
>bunny hop
>bunny hop

Started playing Black Mesa, is that a worthwhile experience? There are some pretty interesting environmental interactions but I haven't seen anything amazing yet. I'm shortly after saving the guy who allows you to get the revolver and I did the hanging crate jumping puzzle

>>388376127
>Mount and blade
>Overrated
It's actually underrated. What's surprising is bannerlord is actually doing it justice it seems, based on the footage at least.

If you think Mount and blade: Warband is overrated, you don't know what makes a good video game.

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>>388376127
>calling Mount and Blade and New Vegas overrated
>apparently Splatoon killed and raped his family in that order
>all around sperg

this is the modern state of /v/

>>388376194

Not an argument.

I thought the deathmatch was pretty fun.

There were a lot of crazy custom maps.

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>walk
>walk
>walk
>kill a couple of enemies
>walk
>walk
>walk

Woah, Half-Life really is the Dark Souls of the FPS genre.

>>388376015
That's why you click the little number in the box and read the sources, you buttmunch.

>>388374116
>Is half life overrated

Oh, most definitely. Half-life series got its legendary rep for being the first to make an FPS cinematic. Constant setpieces, events, NPC chatter. Every game does that shit now so it really isn't that special when viewed with modern eyes.

>>388374116
you forgot all the parts where you stand around doing nothing while people talk at you
>people will actually defend unskippable not-cutscenes as "immersive"

>>388377956
>>388378103
Eh, like 98% of the game is uninterrupted exploration/shooting.

People remember sitting around dr kleiners lab at the start quite a lot but forget how once you get to ravenholm it's pure gameplay for like 2 hours

>>388376015
Didn't know my english teacher posted on 4chan

>>388377956
Modern eyes tell modern lies

>>388374116
UAV DEPLOYED

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>>388376269
HUP
HUP
HUP
HUP
HUP
CRUNCH
MINOR LACERATIONS DETECTED
HUP
HUP
HUP

>>388374116
So you've never actually played the game.

>>388377956
>the first to make an FPS cinematic. Constant setpieces, events, NPC chatter.
Unreal 1 came out half a year before HL1, though.

>>388375153
half life wasnt hailed for its fucking story, it was praised for it's graphics and gameplay

if you wanted story in 1999 you played deus ex or system shock 2

>>388378601
half life didnt have HUP

>>388378734

Unreal 1 didn't have a story.

>>388378848
You're right, HUP is Deus Ex. It's been so long since I played HL1 I don't remember what noise the player makes when jumping, if any.

>>388376063
It's weird that difficulty changes enemy health and damage in the HL series, given that so many other things in Valve's games are directly descended from the original Quake engine and one of the things Q1 does is keep enemy health and damage identical across difficulty levels, it just changes the amount and placement of enemies, health, weapons, etc.

>>388378103
>you forgot all the parts where you stand around doing nothing while people talk at you

That's not in Half Life though

>>388379143
That's the intro

>>388379280
Who cares though?

>>388379432
Somebody playing the game more than once obviously

It's from an earlier time when video games were less accessible, plebs like you didn't play them. Every time something cultural becomes more accessible it becomes worse because the masses have bad taste, this goes for music, theater, films, TV, everything.

Sound like a child complaining that Henry Purcell doesn't sound like Lady Gaga. Natural hierarchies where people like OP are at the bottom are best.

>>388379524
Just go take a shit for the intro. How would you even have the patience to wait for the game to download if you can't even handle a 4 minute intro?

>>388378740
>if you wanted story in 1999 you played deus ex
???

>>388378740
HL was more hailed for its integration and presentation of story.

>>388379432
You can't skip the intro and you're forced to stay over 10 minutes hearing a bunch of no name characters talking about how you're late or how is a important job to do whatever they said

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Now /v/ hates Half Life?

Reminder that there's no replayability in Half-Life 2.

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>>388374116

Is every vidya gaem overrated?!

>move your guy on the screen
>move your guy on the screen
>move your guy on the screen
>move your guy on the screen
>move your guy on the screen
>move your guy on the screen

>>388374116
Since the sticky is gone, I'll ask here.
I've been replacing all the fucked up names in the HL3 synopsis, but what the fuck are the real names of the Hyperborea and Tocsin Island Research Base?

>>388379770
>You can't skip the intro
open console, type "map c0a0"

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No, but Half-Life 2 is
>walk
>walk
>shoot a human since aliens were cut from this game
>walk
>walk
>walk
>unskippable cutscene
>"hey gordon, remember me?" (you don't since none of these fucks existed in hl1)
>walk
>walk
>walk
>walk
>shoot more humans
>walk
>unskippable cutscene
>"thanks gordon! you sure are quiet haha"

>>388379770
>You can't skip the intro
map c1a0c

>>388380030
borealis and aperture science

>>388380105
>aliens were cut from this game
Ummm, but that's wrong, sweetie... What about headcrabs?

>>388380148
oh fuck, aperture seems so obvious, thanks m8

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>>388375005

>>388379770
I don't even see thsi as an argument. Literally 'the game is bad because of the intro'?

>>388374116
>walk
Are you fucking retarded, you are supposed to strafe-jump

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>>388378601
Here, have the superior version of that image.

>>388380030
Wait, there was a sticky? Link?

>>388380182
they cut most of the aliens from the first game and turned the chad slaves into virgin vorts

kind of ironic how you are fighting an empire of aliens and you don't fight any of the actual aliens besides striders if you count those.

>>388380297
>superior
>it's just poorly upscaled

How the fuck is this thread still up? This is one of the biggest shitposts I've ever seen

>>388374116
wow great thread

*rolls eyes*

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>>388379893
>/v/ is one person

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>>388380105
>>walk
Every time you greentext "walk" it might as well be replaced with 'play the game'.

>>shoot a human since aliens were cut from this game
Headcrabs, vortigaunts, antlions, barnacles, mortar synths, striders, gunships, dropships, crab synths.

>>unskippable cutscene
Infrequent and brief. The longest one is Black Mesa east and it still purposefully provides you with stuff to play with or look at in the lab to occupy yourself if you're bored.

>>"hey gordon, remember me?" (you don't since none of these fucks existed in hl1)
Did you expect them to not add any characters? It's worldbuilding and is done perhaps two or three times. They're even modelled after in-game NPCs in Half Life 1.

>>shoot more humans
You mean the twelve CP officers you shoot at the very start of the game? Would you have preferred to have the strongest enemies fought first?

>>"thanks gordon! you sure are quiet haha"
>humor is NOT allowed in my video games!

>>388380457
it's still a funny image because of its disproportionately useless size mate c'mon

>>388379770
If you've played the game before you can start a new game on level 2, just as you get your crowbar and start doing gameplay stuff.

>>388380682
I don't want a crappy 2mb jpeg when the tiny version works just as well, especially with how shitty 4chan's been working lately.

>>388374116
I've been playing Black Mesa lately and the level design seems really bad at times. How faithful is it to the original level design?

>>388380685
>replaying half life
Why?this game got no replay value

>>388380643
>vortigaunts
Huh?

>>388380802
I'd assume you wouldn't want to skip the entire introduction if this wasn't a second playthrough.

I've been replaying it recently, but only really because I haven't played it in several years, so i dunno if that really counts as replay value.

>>388380643
>Did you expect them to not add any characters? It's worldbuilding and is done perhaps two or three times. They're even modelled after in-game NPCs in Half Life 1.
Every single character of the game with a name do a "hey you remember me?" Bullshit, it would be better if they simply added new characters that Gordon didn't meet before instead of this.

>>388374116
>ship flying into dyson sphere
>gman saves alyx
>alyx's last words to you were "shame you have to die so soon, i guess you only lived...a half life"
>credits roll
fucking worst ending of any video game ive ever played

>>388374116
HL2 is like
>walk
>walk
>loading
>walk
>walk
>shoot two guys
>walk
>loading
>walk
>walk
>loading

>>388381137
name your favorite game

>>388381319
easy
oblivion

>>388381319
Spelunky.

>>388381319
RollerCoaster Tycoon

>>388381420
>walk
>walk
>kill enemy
>walk
>walk
>walk
>do quest
>fail quest because of buggy npcs getting themselves killed
>walk
>walk
>walk

>>388381319
gone home

>>388381319
HL1

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>>388380643
>Headcrabs, vortigaunts, antlions, barnacles, mortar synths, striders, gunships, dropships, crab synths.
You don't fight vortigaunts, crab synthsm, mortar synths or drop ships. You fight very few striders (thankfully) since they are boring as all hell to fight. Same with gunships.

>You mean the twelve CP officers you shoot at the very start of the game?
No, I mean the Overwatch, which is primarily what you fight throughout the entire game, and they're humans. But, I know what you're going to say
>b--b-b-b-b-ut only the CPs are human! The rest of the Overwatch are transhumans!
Fuck off, they're humans. They fight and behave like humans. The fact that you intentionally left out the entire overwatch and included unfinished beta enemies that make cameos at the very end only proves your entire argument is based on loopholes.

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>>388381514
have you ever played oblivion?
87% of npcs cant die unscripted way, becuase they are quest related

>>388381468
Fall down
Pick up damsel
Fall down
Jump
Fall down
Fall down
Fall down

>>388381707
>Overwatch
kys underage

>>388381707
>overwatch
fuck off to your general

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Found this, anyone else think the before is better or am I just a weeb?

>>388382327
I like the before better. Face on the left is stylized, face/head on the right is just weird.

>>388382327
um, i wonde,r why people go into coloring before actually mastering sketching and understanding proportions. both look "autistic", you should practise more if you havent

>>388382642
it's not mine, I was searching around for alyx artwork because I'm a waifufag

>>388382327
They're both pretty bad, but the first one is instantly recognizable as Alyx, while the second one doesn't look like her at all

>>388382327
before is generally better.

The transition to digital art is difficult and a lot of the time doesn't look as good as traditional if the artist doesn't know what they're doing or doesn't understand the differences between digital and traditional. This tends to be especially apparent with colouring and texture. The shading is a little overdone and blotchy on the second image, while the watercolour on the other one is nice and simple. The blue lighting is awkward and splotchy.

The face looks worse but clearly took more skill to draw; the artist is trying a lot harder to make a more realistic but isn't quite there yet. It's easy to cover up bad anatomy knowledge by just drawing generic anime face symbols. It also doesn't look at all like alyx, due to both the hair being the wrong shape and the face being too specific. She got away with the anime face because it doesn't look like anyone in particular; it's just the anime symbol for face. The second face looks like it could be a particular person, and that person isn't alyx.

They're clearly more skilled now but their work looks uglier because they're more ambitious, but don't yet have the skill to back that ambition up.

>>388382642
You don't need to "master" sketching to learn colouring. Don't be autistic.

>>388383030
what the fuck? obviously mastering sketching doesnt help learning or improving coloring. it helps artist to avoid creating art that looks like typical deviantart-garbage. both pictures, even colored greatly, would still look like shit, because contours are ugly

This bait really irritates me.

fucking dumbass OP should know better

>>388383726
Still, it's not like they shouldn't also learn colouring while they're doing it.
Really the colouring has nothing to do with it. You should have just said that the sketching and form is bad and should be better.

There's nothing wrong with learning to colour at the same time.

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>>388375885

>tfw xen was your favourite part and you are the only one

>>388384006
xen sucked you fucking PLEB

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>>388375005

need to put my penis in a vagina right now but don't have one around so i think i'll masturbate

>>388375260
So it's really Hllf Life then. Wooooowwwwwww and people praise this shit

>>388383942
>There's nothing wrong with learning to colour at the same time.

i have my doubts, as i would call coloring an advanced form of shading, which is essential in sketching. i think getting an idea may help those beginners, before they try much more difficult tasks and coloring is one.

>>388374116
>walk
>listen to dialogue
>qte
>walk
>shoot some things
>listen to dialogue
>listen to dialogue while walking
>shoot some things
>qte
modern games are such an improvement.

>>388377591
>both have terrible combat and next to no story
Woah

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>>388384006
here i thought i was alone

>>388384498
Personally I always colour first and then shade, so it's not really a type of shading for me.
I know a lot of people shade first then colour so for you it might be different.

>>388384507
Half Life pretty much IS a modern game when you look at its design. It's still widely copied to this day. Much more in common with the average late 00's FPS game than the likes of Doom and Quake.

>>388374116
It's a big reason we have super scripted cinematic trash so yes.

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>>388375885
>he fell for the on a rail is bad meme

>>388375885
I fucking hate young gamers.

>>388374116
It and the 2nd game are classic examples of games that were good on release but haven't aged well at all thanks to a meh story and god awful soundtrack.

>>388384084
xen is literally kino, one of the only video game environments to feel truly alien
also had some pretty good level design, a lot of varied spaces for combat with different, unique enemy designs

>>388376290
it REALLY picks up once you get to we've got hostiles, even moreso than the original