Dissidia Final Fantasy NT

This game look like absolute trash.

>Shantotto
>Not Prishe
Don't think it looks fun and you can't even play best girl

>>388371350
>This game look like absolute trash.
Got my beta key last night, it is. It's a fighting game built off of Final Fantasy XIV's engine, so it looks horribly out of place.

>>388371350
yes square has made nothing but garbage the last 20 years but you fuckers keep buying it

so how is it?

>>388371230
what the fuck is that thing in the bottom-middle?

>>388371646
It's the Final Fantasy Type-0 of fighting games. It should have never even been considered.

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>>388371749
A fucking legend

>>388371230
If you want to explain this game to someone who played dissidia on the psp before, it's simple:
Imagine the dissidia combat. Now imagine the animations being 2.5 times slower, hit boxes being unaccurate, combos and swordfights being useless so everyone spams their range attacks, and less characters.
There you have it, dissida NT.

>>388371493
Shantotto was meme'd too hard by the Japanese community and Square never understood the joke. Now we're stuck with her. She was essentially the FFXI version of the gudako fate comics

>No Brave Attacks at all, just generic Autoattack
>ONLY 1 (ONE) HP ATTACK CAN BE EQUIPPED PER BATTLE
>3 VS 3 ONLY
CANCER

>>388372130
You didnt try to rhyme, havent you the time?

>>388371230
Y'shtola and Vaan mostly. Vaan ultimately feels the most like playing 012, so Ive stuck with him. Still my boy, despite not being the same character.

Firion is fun. Anyone that has a good mid-range game though is broken.

>>388371230
jesus what a boring as fuck roster

>>388372970
I know right, wheres the funky black guy from XIII

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>>388372706
I guess she's okay then

>>388372970
This is a beta, Ace, Ramza and the villains are in the arcade version and the full game. At least try to do some research.

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Loved the original, not the biggest fan of this version. Tidus is fun to use, at least, but after playing for an hour I sorely started missing the move customization. Game is shallow as fuck as it is.

>>388372970
Yeah. I wish they added a few of the villains in the beta, Ace and Ramza at the very least would've been nice.
Can't believer this is what the japs had to deal with at launch for the arcade version.

>>388373295
>even the player's dialogue options rhyme with each other
Nice

Onion Knight and Terra are pretty fun

>>388372507
This isn't like, a console version of the PSP games?

But... I want a console version of the PSP games.

>>388371350
Well, it's Dissidia. What were you expecting?
There have been two PSP games and both were based more on multipliers and accessories than actual skill. Plus the animations suck big time.

>>388373371
That's only the English version. The translators didn't know what to do about Tarutaru vocal ticks from Japanese to English so they went with rhymes.

The Japanese version of Shantotto is just a sassy ojousama.

>>388373565
It's DRASTICALLY dumbed down and gutted compared to even the first PSP game, let alone the second.
This is abysmal.
Like super pre-alpha version of the first PSP game but with better graffix.

>>388373640
It's a different style of game all together. It has more in common with Gundam Versus than the Dissidia games. This style of game is popular in Japanese arcades; the only thing that really hurt it was the limited roster according to 2ch arcade stalkers.

I played a bunch of characters I liked in the PSP games like Zidane and Terra, but it's just so slow and I miss the move customization. Why don't they tell you the movesets for the characters? The lag doesn't help either. I'm hoping the full release isn't this shitty, but this is modern SE we're talking about, they'll fuck it up somehow.

>>388374018
Japan has shit taste as usual, fuck Japan, 2 nukes weren't enough

>>388374018
At least they have a goal of at least 50 characters and would still want to keep going after that. Hopefully they do more betas for modes besides 3v3.

So is the actual game going to have equipment, different moves to unlock, accessories and all that shit? That's the kind of content that kept us all coming back for hundreds of hours, not this hack and slash shit.

>>388374217
>Hopefully they do more betas for modes besides 3v3.
Anon, I have bad news. This game IS 3 vs 3 ONLY.
This isn't a beta thing.
It literally is only 3 vs 3.

>>388374251
Its literally a beta. I know the hot /v/ memes about betas is that theyre final but this is missing a ton of shit from the full version.

>>388374251
Ah yes because the originals weren't hack and slash shit at all. You must be very educated.

>>388374305
They said 1v1 and 2v2 are confirmed though.

>>388374357
Except Arcade version has no:
Equipment
Accessories
Other modes than 3 vs 3

BECAUSE ITS LITERALLY DESIGNED LIKE THIS

LOOK AT GUNDAM VERSUS

IT'S BY THE SAME FUCKING DEVS AND IS CONFIRMED TO HAVE THE SAME GAME STYLE PLANNED

MEANING

NO ACCESORIES, EVER
NO OTHER MODES THAN 3 VS 3, EVER
NO MORE THAN 1 HP ATTACK, EVER

ITS SHIT

>>388374505
NO THEY DIDNT DIPSHIT, NICE SOURCE YOU HAVE THERE IN YOUR ASS

>>388372507
Classic /v/, lies and extreme exaggerations with the only thing being close to truth missing the point entirely.

>>388372130
OHHHH HO HO HO

>>388374548
Confirmed for a fucking retard.

>>388374548
>if I type in all caps it makes me right!

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I hope we get some less seen characters showing up or from shit nobody played

Terra is best girl.

Not that there's much competition so far.

>>388374548
Which is why we are getting a .......CONSOLE VERSION.

I've been playing as Lightning only because she's my waifu.

>>388374714
>we'll never see Prishe again
>we'll never get Lilisette
>we'll never get any of the baller as fuck FFXI heroes
>we won't even get the villains
>not even a gimmick fight with the Ark Angels in Divine Might
>Always Shantotto
>Always a meme

Fuck japan

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>>388374548
>IT'S BY THE SAME FUCKING DEVS

Gundam Versus is from Bandai Namco

Dissidia NT is developed by Team Ninja and SE

Game looks like trash but at least get your info right. Should have just made a remaster of 012

>>388375095
You don't know if we'll get Prishe or not.

>>388375209
Fuck no 012 was retarded and busted that wouldn't be fun at all.

>>388375221
XI lost its chance anon. We're more likely to get XIV characters now that it's at 10 million accounts.

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>>388371230
>Unresponsive controls
>Terrible lag
>3v3 is a clusterfuck
>Everything has a year of recovery frames
>No wake up options

At least my wife looks great in it

>>388374548
http://www.4gamer.net/games/383/G038350/20170724001/
Google translate it and shut up. Vaan and other characters have multiple HP attacks or variants on their HP attacks, and the fact you choose one out of multiple alongside your teammates makes it actually matter. Summon buffs are similar to accessories.

>>388375307
Still, there's a good chance we'll get PSP roster back since they're aiming for around 50 fighters.

The game looks and feels great to me. I just wish I could do 1v1 or have actual lobbies.

>>388375552
Yeah the only people complaining about controls or gamefeel or lag are shitters or people with bad internet.

>>388375548
Theyve said they want to bring all the characters from previous games back

>>388375484
>my wife

you mean Toriyama's

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>>388375095
>Will never get bullied into saving the world by Naja Salaheem again

>>388375740
He switched to daughterfu in Lightning Returns.

>>388375548
If the rumours about the next characters they're announcing are true then the only people they'd need to add would be Gabranth, Yuna, Tifa, Laguna, Prishe and Gilgamesh. I'm more interested in what new characters they can add though but everyone keeps asking for the same people back.

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I hope they add more alternate costumes for all the characters

>>388375295
t. Bartz main

>>388376046
>tfw I had to switch from Bartz to fulltime Exdeath because he was so shit
It wasn't fair. At least they gave me Prishe too.

Have they said what the XV stage will be? I hope its Insomnia or Altissia, all the other locations in that game were lackluster, even Niflheim felt like Budget Midgar.

>>388376390
You'll fight in a giant FFXV car and you'll like it.

>>388376285
I don't know what they were thinking with him. Paladin Force was one of his best moves and they decided to replace it with shitty Luminous Shard for absolutely no reason. I don't even remember what he had in the original instead of Ragnarok Blade but it had to be better. I can't think of an shittier HP attack than fucking Ragnarok Blade.

Takes a while to get a game going for me, like 5 minutes waiting for players. Is this common?

>>388376840
>Only 5 minutes
Consider yourself lucky

>>388376986
Damn I thought I had it bad. Sorry.

>>388376723
He had Wind Shear. Ragnarok Blade is decent enough and can't be assist broken so that's why he got it, which is likely the same reason they gave him Luminous Shard, but there was no reason for them to remove and change all his old attacks as well. The original ones felt much better to use as well even if his overall movelist was very slightly more wellrounded, which had nothing to do with the changes anyway but with the additions. They completely fucked his lines as well, before it felt much more like he was putting his own spin on the attacks but if he just copies their voice word for word on every single one it just sounds stupid. And they even changed his fucking Ex Burst name to Master Mime instead of the blatantly superior Spellblade-Dualwield-Rapidfire.

>>388376840
I've only had to wait about a minute or two most of the time, but some people have it a lot worse.

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>>388371230
Dissidia Duodecim is honestly much better:

>you are able to stagger someone when blocking their brave attack at the right time.

>Every character has an EX mode (transforms and gets their own passive abbilities).

Every character has an EX burst (their own special hp attack with different timing and command prompts)

>Characters level up and can obtain different equipment.

>Actually has 1vs1 that are more entertaining.

>Also numerous summons and they all have different abilities, not overpowered.

Dissidia NT:

>Can't stagger you're opponents, blocking is useless.

>No more EX mode nor EX bursts.

>No more equipment

3vs3 is a must and a complete clusterfuck, just 2vs1 someone (especially a marksman) and you'll get an easy win.

Summons are completely OP.

>>388371646
Isn't this Team Ninja?

>>388377484
Thanks Captain Obvious.

>>388371230
>He carries a shield of light
>Shield is an undersized blue metal kite shield
What did they mean by this?

>>388375295
Lol, how was Dissidia 012 retarded ?

Do you even have proof to back up that assumption ?

I bet you barely played it and didn't even finish it's story mode.

Is there any reason for Tidus to have his directional bravery attacks locked behind dashing?

the graphics look great, but is this 900p? if so, will the ps4 pro version when the full game is out be 1080p at least?

>>388377484
>stating differences and ignoring mechanics from one side is an argument
>actually thinking summons weren't potentially ridiculous in the old game while thinking they're op in this one
>disregarding how insanely broken the assist system was and how that's not even that far from the game becoming fully team based.
Duodecim also doesn't have Ex Skills I guess that makes it shit.

>>388377617
That explanation was for the people who never played 012.

They should've remastered it for PS4, but chose to port an unfinished arcade game instead.....

Who the fuck at S.E even makes these decisions ?

>>388378126
GOTTA GO FAST

>>388378126
To make his playstyle and moveset more unique and give him a focus around moving all the time.

>>388378384
>>388378414
My R1 button is gonna be dead by the end of this but he's too much fun.

>>388378126
Gotta go fast.
Really though, he was one of the fastest characters in the original games and to further emphasis his hit and run playstyle he should be dashing and moving around almost all the time.

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>cloud is slightly above you
>Uses cross slash

The fuck do you do? Hp attacks can't be blocked, will hit you if you try to jump, and the second slash homes in on you if you dodge.

>>388378596
Dash away from him, try interrupting it if you can, have a teammate nearby who can hit him from behind/afterwards or don't be in that situation.

>>388371230
is there a place to give feedback, I want to tell them to add ex supers again, and make it so we have multiple hp attacks

The lag makes this shit unplayable, is anyone getting matches that aren't a total slideshow?

>>388378268
You atleast have basic summons like that bloody magic pot, tonberry and cactuar that could fuck up your opponents summons.

C'mon, using character assist wasn't ridiculous.

They could only use 1 bravery and 1 hp attack.

If you at least tried using every character than you'd know when to dodge an assist characters attack.

>Fated Circle doesn't have bullshit homing anymore
Fuck.

>>388371230
>the most
My nigga firion

>>388378820
>Don't be near a melee character

SICK

>>388378913
I had one but it only lasted for 10 seconds into the match before a guy d/c'd then it ran smoothly

>>388378970
So many good memories of Fated Circle
>I think I'm too far there's no way he can reac-
>Oh I'm instantly in their face and they're dead

>>388378913
Almost all my matches so far have been lag free. There's the occasional slideshow but it happens very rarely.

>>388377484
wait so your saying I can not play as warrior of light and class up? that was always the coolest

>Prishe in HD

PLEASE SQUARE I NEED THIS FUCK PLEASE JUST DO ME THIS ONE FAVOR

>>388379146
localisation team is incompetent as usual

>>388371230

Will I be able to play as Exdeath?

Anyone got another code? I'd love to give it a play.

>>388379319
Yes but not in the beta

>>388379216
WoL is still in, but they removed a lot of the EX modes. Trance is still in for characters that can do it but most of them are gone. They get a new unique EX move now. WoL's is an AoE taunt that forces enemies to lock onto you.

>>388379450
Does the lock getting fixed on WoL for a few seconds, or can they just switch targets again as soon as he does it?

>>388378837
You can always do the usual and spam them on Twitter
>>388379319
Yes but he doesn't have a shitload of counters anymore, just Delta Attack.

>>388379505
It lasts a while. Long enough for allies to attempt to do some work while they're forced on you for a good number of seconds.

>>388374018
>It has more in common with Gundam Versus than the Dissidia games.

So its better than the PSP games by default then?

>>388379450
I am asking does he transform into the knight class

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>>388373295

she's the best, random /v/ user. if you disagree you're just a total loser

>>388379687
Oh.
No.

>>388379146
I don't know why are you posting anal vore for no reason, Anon.

>>388379674
Not really because Gundam is much faster. They need to increase the speed of everything in this.

It's a dumbed down Gundam Versus for casuals. I was actually excited over this game and the beta crushed all my hype.
>>388379687
All the cool stuff from the PSP games is gone, not even joking.

>>388378961
Busted summons sometimes outbusting another busted summon activation still means they're insane. For every summon that didn't have too much of an effect there were two that could completely swing the fight.
Assists were extremely ridiculous. Having just one assist bar means that almost any attack can be punished from anywhere on the screen, and you can get out of and even punish getting hit by combos. It was supposed to be a counter to people playing overly defensive when near death but all it did was double down on the defensive aspect since you would simply run off and build assist and punish anything with a full HP combo. The characters that could take more advantage of the system were extremely dominant as well. I played every character by the way, it's not an issue of knowing when to dodge because no one would just throw out an assist like that.
Making the game 3v3 means it still has some assist-like aspects in place without it being so readily available or a resource, but still rewards cooperation.

>>388379754
well fuck this game

>>388379036
Yes? Isn't that normally the case? He's slow as well so you can outrun him and fight him on your terms or with your team. If he's just running at you and doing Cross Slash you can easily just slap his shit or leave.

>>388371230
>final fantasy 3
Who the fuck is that? Ingus? Onion knight? RIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHERE IS LUNETH???

>>388379674
So far, no. They removed a lot of stuff from the PSP games and it's a lot slower too.
I'm having fun with it so far, but I really hope the final version has more going for it.

people are complaining about lack of ex burts and ex modes?

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>>388379876
Sadly they got rid of a lot of the cool fanservice stuff they stuffed the PSP games with.

>>388371230
No Ramza no buy

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>>388380042
Luneth was an alt in the original game, calm down. He'll most likely be back as a costume again.

>>388380042
You were right the second time

>>388380092

EX Bursts are just awesome and the best kind of fanservice. Specially ones like Shantotto or Tifa that actually mimic how their ultimate abilities would work

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>>388379876
He still has his knight alt, but he doesn't job up anymore unfortunately.

>>388380228
which is why I am mad they are gone and hope people are demanding they return

>>388380228
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhCDBFSlpBo

GENKAI WO KOERU

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>>388380282
thats not his knight design though

>>388380170
If he's the protagonist why isn't he in the roster instead of the onion?

>>388380614

because FF3 has 4 nameless protagonists

>>388380282
That's Warrior.

>>388379820
>>388380086
Christ its Slower than the PSP games?

>>388380120

Bartz having stars above his head is literally in the beta you dumb faggot

>>388380092
Yeah because they don't realise they're almost all incorporated into the movesets, Ex Skills and Summons and it would be silly to have the game pausing constantly for one on one minigames when it's a 3v3 game.

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>>388371230
My wife

>>388380673
>>388380469
Yeah, I forgot.

>>388380679
Yeah. It kinda has to be to be accessible to noobs. Imagine getting double teamed with the PSP speed.

>>388375990
why does ramza look like a girl?

>>388380679
It is. It's terribly slow and pretty much a pain to move around.

>>388380729
The arcade game wasn't even a thing when I put that shitty picture together. It's not meant to say "look at these things they got rid of", it's just a few examples of the kind of fun little things they put in the originals. Calm down you fucking nerd.

>>388380789
>pits
>thighs
>side butt
Built

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>>388371230
All I care about is Prishe.

>>388380120
A lot of that is still in and there's plenty more added. Cloud in the full version has a HP attack from FFT for example.

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SE stop trying to make it an esport

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anyone get bored of the beta already?
they really dumbed down the combat in this one.

i played one match and i really hate how the game feels

>Get wallsplat
Okay as soon as I get up I should probably bloc-
>Crushed by an HP attack
What am I supposed to do? Run? Attack?

>>388381347
not get wallsplat

>>388381347
help from your teammates

>>388380786
I just want transformations like the last game fuck you

>>388381347
You are fucked. There's nothing you can do, literally.

>>388381347
Hope a teammate comes and saves your ass before that happens.

Firion is so busted I don't know what the fuck they were smoking. Every other character I feel like I have to do some kind of work, but the instant I pick him it's free kills. He has like no weakness.

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>>388381124
Prishe is great. Who else you'd like to see?

>>388381656
sounds like they didn't change much about him then
he was already a fucking machine in the PSP games, there's only a few characters who could give him a run for his money

>>388381535
>they're almost all incorporated into the movesets, Ex Skills
>>388381347
If it's fast try to dodge, if it's slow try to interrupt it, if it has armour try to dash away. None of these are really guaranteed though since you're in a bad position so the best chance is to be fighting alongside your team.
>>388381656
Everyone is bad right now so they don't realise he's a stationary god on the ground but has next to no air strength and they just charge into him.

>>388371230
>Shantotto
>Vaan
>some shitty kawaii catgirl from XIV
>fucking Lightning THE FACE OF THE FRANCHISE
Why do all the games past X have such shitty reps?

>>388382082

yshtola is frumpy for miqote standards

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I wanted to be excited for this because I really enjoyed the PSP ones and when they announced Ramza I was very happy, but the game just feels like a clusterfuck. The UI is one of the most abysmal things I've ever seen, the game lags like crazy, and it just isn't as fun to play. 3v3 was a terrible idea, it's just a spam fest. Pretty disappointing overall desu

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>>388373553
>Onion Knight
I know who I'm going to main

>>388382347
You have bad internet.

I don't even notice the UI while playing but the camera is pretty shitty sometimes

Why does auron get so little love by se?

>>388381902
From FFXI? Maybe Iroha or someone from another nation. Like Lion/Zeid or Lilisette.

What rank is after Gold?

>>388382825

Platinum > Diamond most likely.

>>388371230
Is my man Kefka in this?

>>388375990
Costumes are easy to make and the easiest thing to sell, plus the game is developed by TN. I'd be surprised if they don't sell loads of costume DLC.

>>388382825
Bronze
Silver
Gold
Platinum
Mytrhil
Diamond
Adamant
Crystal

>>388382036
>Everyone is bad right now so they don't realise he's a stationary god on the ground but has next to no air strength and they just charge into him.
But Firion has been like that since the original Dissidia. I'm guessing there's a ton of new players who never played the PSP games.

I feel like my teammates don't even want to help me.

>>388371639
>Built off of FFXIV's engine

Bullshit, FFXIV's engine is trash

Queues dead for anyone else?

>>388383245
They're never dead.

Having your flagship game mode require 6 players is really hampering this. The 3v3 thing is a clusterfuck, some of the stages like the floating crystal place are too small for it to work well, lock-on is a hassle, and the matchmaking takes fucking forever. The game even gives up sometimes and just throws an AI party member in there which pretty much means an automatic loss for that team since the computer is utterly retarded.

>>388383135
Yeah, a lot of people are very clearly new to both the game and the series. Firion's really strong against multiple targets as well thanks to his wide ranges so he can be easy to pick up for people who can't deal with it otherwise.

>>388380995
Someone didn't get the true end on FFT...

I wish they advertised for this more. The idea is super awesome and the 3v3 makes it some kinda MMO PvP fighting game hybrid. I feel like this would be huge if more people knew about it

Why does Shantotto have the ability to become very large?

>>388383481
>he doesn't know

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So has Team Ninja ruined another series?

>>388383481
Her DLC in XI. Shantotto is basically the most powerful character in the franchise after Lightning of course.

>>388383779
>Implying anyone would have enjoyed PSP dissidia online

Only the single player was fun, the actual vs mode was an I'm balanced mess

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>>388379505
It lasts quite a bit.
Doesn't mean shit if you know what you're doing though.

>>388380995
He's the same age as Zidane and born of nobility.

>>388383971
>Most Duodecim tournaments using official rules were just players whiffing on purpose on opposite sides of the map to build assist gauge

>all melee match
>people struggle to catch up to each other the entire game
>just keep whiffing moves

Either the maps need to be made smaller or the game needs to be made faster or something. The dashing system is definitely part of the problem.

>>388383779
You can blame Square for this one:

>Takeo Kujiraoka: Since the arcade version alone can’t reach all of our customers, that’s what we’re starting to prepare. Currently, eSports has been an exciting thing for everyone overseas, right? And regarding that, I believe we, too, can possibly make it there. By having everyone around the world enjoy a Final Fantasy with team battles, by exporting a highly proficient competitive tool, then perhaps we can even make it one of the exciting parts of an eSports event. The next step after that would be to have competitions for it on a global scale. I can’t say much more about it, but with those ambitions we’d like to continue making Dissidia Final Fantasy into a better game.

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>>388383970
There may be someone more powerful than lightning. All we know is lightning was said by square to be the most powerful female.

>>388378596
Source? Who is that on the left?

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>>388384237
I want to wake up in her body one day, I'm fucking serious

>>388382036
>they're almost all incorporated into the movesets, Ex Skills except knight class warrior of light so again fuck you

>>388384234

Going competitive is likely to be this series' undoing. People loved the PSP games for the fanservice and massive amount of content, and hell even because it was super unbalanced. Anyone could get a good 50-100 hours out of Duodecim. NT will probably end up like most other typical fighting and multiplayer games and die off after a year.

>>388384597
How are you so retarded?

How are you doomsaying something you are COMPLETELY wrong about?

They're beta testing the multiplayer content. All the single player content is in the game still.

>>388384597
I agree, I think I spent maybe 2 hours out of 200 actually bothering to play versus a friend. If this game becomes e-sports bait then I'm not sure I'll be wanting to keep playing.

>>388384401
Why do you want me to have said "fuck you" when I didn't say that at all? The outfit will probably become an alt costume later on and while it was a cool nod to the class change he was never really about transforming into it since that was originally just a one way power boost. He has some other cool mechanics like his Ex Skill and powering up through his shield so it's not like he's missing fun things.

>>388371230
Literally who is the representative for XI? And is XIV Yshtola?

>>388371350
Dissidia was always fucking garbage. The combat system is an absolute mess.

>>388384956
yes of course y'shtola is the the XIV rep, retards love generic catsluts

>>388384907
because it was a great nod to the old games transformations fit the game very well the removal of it adds nothing

>>388384956
Shantotto is 11 rep, fucking sucks too

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I wish there was a surrender option.

>wait 10 minutes for a match that either lags or ends up being a one-sided stomp that lasts under 2 minutes
2018 GOTY confirmed

>>388371350
The only purpose of FF Dissidia? Potential SFM models of the females.....too bad there's only like 3 of them and the rest are guys. Damn Square Enix. Put more vaginas in there.

THAT ZIDANE PLAYER I JUST FOUGHT WITH FUCK YOU, YOU PLAY LIKE ASS

>>388385313
>implying the final product matchmaking will be anything like this

how to fix dissidia
add back in ex mode
add back ex burst
add back 1 v 1 even gundam vs has it now

>>388385518
>woman preaching
Lol no

By Altana's grace, we put them in their place.

>>388384762

http://gematsu.com/2017/06/dissidia-final-fantasy-nt-story-set-psp-games

>There is no story-only mode, fighting is the focus through and through. As you continue to battle, the story will naturally tell itself.

They should have added some baddies to mix it up a bit.

>>388371230
Only saving grace is that they're adding Ramza to it. Otherwise, it's a snoozefest with the same reps and a very limited playstyle.

>>388385138
It added a really interesting skill that lets him act as a tank in a team based action game in a cool way and have many uses. Also I think you have it backwards, they didn't add his class change because it fit the game, they already had Ex Mode as a power up mechanic and they just thought that the class change fit that best out of anything he could possibly do to fit it.
>>388385584
>why can't this new game be an exact copy of the original one I don't want to understand anything new or different

>>388385773
Yeah they should add Garland, The Emperor, Kain Highwind, Exdeath, Kuja, Kefka Palazzo, Sephiroth, and Jecht

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>>388384345
same anon lightning is a goddess

>>388385925
I suck with magic based characters but I kick ass with the emperor I don't even know why.

>>388385865
>why can't this new game be as good as the old one or at least add something good that replaces what they cut out
fixed that for you champ

>>388385773
This is only the beta, the full game has most of the villains in it.
>>388385925
It's a shame I can't actually tell if this is a joke or not with what most posts are normally like, but literally every single one of those characters are in.

>>388386016
Because he was a methodical setup based character. I loved using him too. His homing fireball looks super OP in this game. Someone has to have the WEBM where he gets a three man kill using one of them

>>388386085
>Ex mode
Replaced with Ex Skills and some moves
>Ex Burst
Replaced with Ex Skills and summons.
>1v1
Will be available along with 2v2 and 2v1 in lobbies in the full game. The game is balanced with teams in mind anyway.
Any other uninformed critiques you want to throw out there?

Where can I report bugs?

>Here is what the season pass will include:
>Six additional playable characters (includes standard costume and weapon)
>Color variation of the costumes for the six characters mentioned above (two each)
>Additional weapons for the six characters mentioned above (two each)
So we know there are gonna be at least 6 DLC characters. Any bets on who?

It says shantotto has moves you can only do in rage mode. How so you do rage mode?

>Onion knight's and Cecil's mode changes are "Skills" with cooldowns

What in the fuck

>>388386472
Kick your PS4 across the room.

>>388371230
Is pc getting this?

>>388384345
I would prefer Serah because she is more endowed in the chest and ass areas

>>388386472
When your HP is at about 2500 or lower I think.
>>388386482
Onion Knight can also change based on the attacks he lands and in the full game Cecil can pick either Soul Eater or Paladin Force as his HP attack to change to the specific job, but the Ex Skills come with their own buffs as well. It's to keep you switching and making use of both movesets and the Ex Skill.

>>388384291
>said by Square

Square didnt need to SAY anything, no other FF MC becomes a literal demi god that solos an entire game like she does

>>388371230
Everyone looks so ugly, they should had kept the Nomura's designs

i don't hate it but i don't think i'd buy it at $60 with what i've seen so far. but i never played the other two Dissidias online and this seems to be focusing on competitive, i guess trying to be an esport or some other cancer.

i just liked the endless replayability and RPG elements while being able to play as my favorite Final Fantasy characters. i think i played the original Dissidia against another person once and that's it.

>>388386707
Actually, believe it or not, Lightning is probably more endowed as of LR. Serah just gets lots of very flattering chest shots and fanart that people think is official.

When you can inevitably customize battle sets im sure itll be a lot more intuitive, right now this feels like a stress test given only the largest mode is playable.

Still waiting on Auron.

>>388386436
Probably Ardyn and Aranea as two of them. I think Noctis will make it in the base roster, but I imagine the rest of the XV inclusions will be DLC. They will want some heavy hitters in DLC as well so I imagine someone from 7 aside from Tifa will be DLC. Maybe Yuffie. I could see Rikku or Wakka or Auron as well.

>>388386482
The reason is because the job change also buffs whatever job you change into as Cecil. Honestly I would rather the buff not exist and he could just constantly change jobs, but whatever

>It's slower and shittier than the PS3 Gundam game

https://youtu.be/K9wDiJSGsCg?t=17

Bravo S-E

>>388387136
Ardyn is kinda obvious, but Aranea has no chance over the rest of the boy band, especially Gladio, and Tabata's waifu even though they'd have to make up a moveset for her.

I certainly wouldn't complain about best XV girl Aranea getting in though.

Why is the camera so bugged

>>388387390
She and Ardyn are the only good things about FFXV, but they can't save the game.

>>388387046
Her no-ass is still there though

You know females with actual asses can actually feel their ass jiggle right? Why would i forgo that given the choice

>>388387234
That's Lightning's thing. Cecil was always meant to be a little more focused with his jobs, which was why having a free change in Ex Mode was kind of a big deal. Just wait till the full game for the other HP attacks I guess, each move is a one way change so it's more for if you want to focus on a specific job while keeping the buff, but it's still another method of changing.

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No Gilgamesh no buy

IT'S TOO FUCKING SLOW

>>388387818
Girugamesh is the biggest meme mistake to have ever been.

>>388380789
That outfit its so great, hate how they ruined her main looks in return

What attacks should I spam at Shantotto?

>>388388542
Blizzard or Aqua for tracking/homing
Fire or Aero when they get close
Bio

>>388388075
You're slow. Go faster.

>They changed Shantotto's voice actress
WHY

>>388388837
I've gotten used to it by now.

>>388388542
I can't tell if you meant "at" or "as" but since she's mainly long-ranged you want to fight up close so her spells are contained.

>bronze b
>play like shit
FUCKING WHY I NEED HELP IDIOT QUIT GOING AFTER THE FAGGOT I JUST FINISH KILLING GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

>>388388837
Without a doubt the worst.

Even World of Final Fantasy got her good VA

>>388389178
You're shit get over it.

Is Shantotto a villain?

>>388389287

she's a good guy at heart. loves her homeland. regrets never getting married.

good doesn't mean nice though

>>388385518
Literally the only girl I want them to rip the model for is Terra. The other ones are shit

Y'Shtola is really fun to use.

>>388389532
I wish I could give her Salvation Scythe.

>>388389391
She's not a good guy, she's not a bad guy, she's THE guy

>>388387278
I think it's even slower than Next Plus on PSP which is even more impressive.

>>388389287
She's a bitch but she's on your side. Shes just got a massive superiority complex and she's not afraid to get her hands dirty if it justifies the ends

I need to eat but I can't stop playing.

I just wish the matchmaking was better

I have to restart the game every 3 attempts

>>388383165
XIII-1-2-3, XIV and XV all use the same engine you know.

>>388390553
13-1/2/3 and 14 1.0 use crystal tools
14 uses a variation on crystal tools but it's mostly it's own thing
15 is luminous

There better be some form of choice in menu music so I dont have to constantly hear that overly dramatic choir. Id much rather hear this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7owY3xbMk_I

>>388389532

Same. I did not expect Y'shtola to feel this fun.

>TFW some dude is chasing you and you lay a trap and they get hit by it

>>388391131
Too many Y'shtola pull that shit. Thank god I play Firrion mostly. Just going into full range and hit her while she's laying traps.

>>388388837
No they didn't. It's the same one she had in the old Dissidias.

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>When you melee combo someone, your buddy launches them, you break them and they incapacitate them

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>>388372706
>If you like Shantotto you're really a fool, I was a rhyming cat before it was cool!

>>388391480
>implying that Shantotto's a cat
You're going to have to do better than that.

Matchmaking is broken and shitty.
Final game needs friend invite and more moves. (Only one HP Attack? What the fuck.)
Characters are unbalanced, but probably won't be fixed since it's all based on the arcade version and it would've been fixed by now if they cared.
Unique playstyles are gone and everyone is gonna feel boring and same-y. Exdeath reveal vid made it clear he's no longer a defensive counter fighter.
Other than that it seems fun. I'll probably get it on sale unless full release actually does fix most or all of this.

Whens Rydia?

How do I not get fucked up on wakeup?

>>388384237
>looking down on you with a subtle look of disdain

muh

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>>388391663
>Rhyming with your greentext
That's pretty clever, what will you think of next?

The slow from Y'Shtola Ice move is really good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR8kAtb7AZM

>>388392446
I'll add those numbers to the mix.

>team allows me to get focused
>spend a lot of time running and dodging
>my team mate who is targeted on one of them cant even land a hit

woo lad, this is quite the experience.

>>388391750
Depending on what you got hit by (a HP attack or a second wallrush) you get some invincibility until time passes or you attack. Other than that you need to make the right read on what they're going to do (if it's something you can actually get away from), coordinate and stay with your team so they can hit them in the back, or just not get hit and forced into a corner in the first place.

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How many new emails and accounts do I have to make until I get a key?

>>388373640
>WOW MAN TOTALLY UNPLAYABLE, MY EYES LITERALLY BLEED.

Shut the fuck off

Why are the summoning quotes so brutal?

Lightning is pretty fun.

How do i git gud with tidus?

how is squall, does nobody use him? not one mention in this thread

>>388394236
Hes pretty whatever

>>388394236
I'd say he's the second or third most used behind Cloud. He's alright but Fated Circle isn't as retarded and Blasting Zone is garbage.

>>388394332
I remember blasting zone always being garbage. Squall's HP game was all about the Circles and Rough Divide.

>>388394236
feels like a discount Lightning

Why doesn't anyone talk about the follow up rock paper scissors game? Does no one miss it?

>>388394209
Use your huge mobility on the dash attacks to get in and out, avoid attacks and pressure nonstop from above and below. Be wary of how much dash you have left though since you need it for most of your moves.
>>388394236
Squall is really strong in 1v1 combat if you can time his triggers well, he's fast and has really big combos but without the timing he doesn't do as much damage and doesn't have too many moves to help his team or deal with crowds. You have to be good to be good with him, so if one is on your team you'll most likely lose.
>>388394332
Blasting Zone is solid since it gives him more of a midrange presence as well as being ok at antiair.

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>>388386417

I only know because it pops up as a message if you lose connection in matchmaking.

>>388394684
they dont have it? damn, that shit was fun

>>388394684
I'd like to say it's because everyone understands it wouldn't really work as well in a 3v3 game, but people were also bitching about it despite it being much better in Duodecim with the speed boost and it's something you can avoid and get out of if you don't want to use it.

From what you've played who would you say are the most used characters?

1) Cloud
2) Squall
3) ???

>>388394698
I might try a few more matches with BZ then but it's just so much easier to kill with FC.

>>388394862
Lightning obviously.

>>388394862
Zidane

>>388394862
Seems pretty evenly distributed other than Cloud/Squall. I notice a lot of Terras,

>>388394698
Doyou reccomend jecht shot or spiral cut?

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>>388394862
>>388394971
I don't think I've played a single match without a Lightning other than myself

>>388395306
I'm a retard so I can't dodge Spiral Cut to save my life. It's probably good for noob stomping.

>>388395403
But it goes straight down? How can you not dodge?

>>388371230
>tfw you didnt get in the beta

is there going to be an open beta eventually?

>>388394897
The speed and range of it makes it great for combos and mixups as well as being one of the few AoE moves he has, but Blasting Zone can be charged to screw with dodge timing and is one of the few longer range moves he has so it can let him help his team a bit more. It just depends on your playstyle and gameplan.
>>388395306
Jecht Shot or Spiral Cut is a pretty similar deal as Fated Circle or Blasting Zone, so what I was saying there applies too. Spiral Cut can avoid attacks and hit after a wallrush but Jecht Shot is a chargeable projectile with good range. Jecht Shot would be better if you want to hit and run more, or pop the enemy if a teammate hits him. Spiral Cut can do a ton of damage if you have them high up though and is a faster move overall so it's not as easy to interrupt, so if you're all up in their business it'd work better.

>>388395514
Yeah, in January for $60

GEJ2-94NF-2BZ1

>>388395887
oh shit

>>388394862
I see way more Lightnings and Terras than I see Squalls.

>>388396340
Yeah I don't really see many Squalls. It's been primarily Cloud, Y'Shtola, Lightning, and Terra that I've seen. Then after that mostly WoLs swapped in with an occasional Shantotto.

Surprised more people aren't playing Firion or Tidus.

>>388396605
People playing WoL and Firion are always really good.

>>388396694
I just hate Cloud-fags for how hard their HP attack carries them.

>>388372401
>FFXI version of gudako fate comics

Fuck, that's actually a legit comparison. I wanted my girl Prishe in so bad.

Wish you could remap the controls. The O jump keeps throwing me off

>>388371230
Did Griffith get a new look or something?

>>388397081
accessibility settings for the PS4 lets you do this I think. Also WoL is amazing. Holy Chain->allies summon

when is shiva getting nerfed

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>>388376046
tfw mained bartz and didn't let tiers get to me
Nigga was fun

>>388397212
I never felt like I could get the hang of him

>>388397339
You never will either.
Despite being a mime he is honestly the most simple character in the whole game.
What a shame.
Still fun, mostly because 5 is the best FF and Bartz is just a fun character with excellent fan service to fans of his game.

>>388397512
Butz really needs his classic alternate costume. It looks much better than the Amano-Butz.

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>>388371230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzdolceT6Y0

the game is complete trash compared to the PSP one( I got 500 hours on duodecim)
not only the mechanics are retard shallow, the game is imba as fuck.
>I main Vaan

>>388397687
There has never been a single balanced Dissidia game, anon.

>>388397731
I get it that the nados were always good but I shouldn't be able to team up with a Tera and just spam them and win.

>>388397687
>I won by spamming against shitters that means the game is bad

>>388397687
You know how I know you're a shitter?

Vaan is bottom tier. They haven't buffed him ever and the beta is the same as the arcade balance.

>tfw finally got a beta code

Where my Zidanebros at?

Vaan and Tidus look very similar on the briefing screen. Kinda weird. They probably should have given Vaan a different weapon.

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>>388397851
>>388397841
>>388397731

>>388397591
He has it in the full game.
>>388397687
>I can confirm in my extremely limited time with a beta version of a game that doesn't have all the characters moves or abilities that this game is shallow and this character is op because I can beat people who know even less than I do

Do you just hold down square to modify Firion's vortex HP attack?

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Firion is hard to use. I even never left the ground like you're supposed to.

I hate Tidus, having to dash in order to use his moves feels so fucking inconsistent and poorly designed, like the game doesn't count your dashes half the time

So does EX mode and stuff like omnislash just not exist in this game?

>>388398602
no and yes

I love the whining from all the baddies.

Why are opponents allowed to use a free HP attack after I allow them to hit me against a wall! After all, I can't use this same tactic!

I'm not sure I like this new system,guys.

It just feels super slow and I feel like I have no freedom with combos.

That and I don't appreciate how teammates (mostly bots) can just job the whole match and lose the entire game for me.

I never liked that concept in J Stars and I dont like it here. It pretty much encourages you to gang up on the weakest players or the bot and knock out two points right off the bat.

>>388398602
The system of Ex Modes and Ex Bursts don't exist, but most of the attacks and forms remain as part of characters movelists and in the new system of Ex Skills, which are special abilities that generally work on a cooldown, of which each character has one unique to them. Summons work similarly to how Ex Modes and Ex Bursts did before, hitting the opponents and breaking a core that appears on the map fills your summon gauge, once it's full you and your team can hold the touchpad to start summoning. If you manage to do it for long enough to fill the bar that appears (which is faster the more people that summon, a full team doing it is an instant summon), a little cutscene thing happens where the summon shows up and it then starts wreaking havoc on the other team. You also get special buffs both before and after you summon, depending on which one you chose.

>>388398234
>Whoops!

I love the terrible English translations to boot.

>>388399075
What is terrible about that? Bartz has always been characterized as being carefree and laid back.

How could they fuck this up so fucking bad? It's fucking atrocious compared to PSP.

>Chillin out as a Dark Knight minding my own business and thinkin' about Rosa
>Two blonde guys with big swords get all up in my shit
>Tell em to fuck off and start throwing around black orbs
>They just run into them and die
Why

What's Vaan's gameplan?

>no EX mode anymore

Gabranth is going to be tragic.

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>>388399776
This is a black thing isnt it?

>>388400003
I'm hoping it means we just get EX Gabranth all the time, but they'll probably nerf him into the ground if they do that.

>>388400003
Depends. There is already data in the arcade version for a character that uses block counters to trigger brave attacks that end in an HP attack.

>>388399963
Land a lot of HP attacks because you have two of them, and the more you hit them the stronger they become. Don't forget about your bravery attacks since they're somewhat safer fallbacks and can be used for combos but they're on the whole weaker than other characters. His Ex Skill is lowkey insane, hold it to charge your bravery and when you let it go it's basically Alexander from PSP Dissidia, your bravery gets frozen regardless of whether you land HP attacks or get hit.
>>388400003
Ramza already functions very similarly to how Gabranth used to, since he can charge his Ex Skill and use it to either buff his teammates or power his moveset up, but it's more likely that they'll just give him his Judge moveset constantly and think of a new gimmick for him. I've posted it before but maybe something related to banning attacks or even summons could work, as a nod to him being a Judge.
>>388400347
There's tons of characters that have counter HP attacks actually, but I don't know what that has to do with Gabranth.

>play character for a few matches
>can barely do shit and get rushed down hard
>try a different character
>can barely do shit and get rushed down hard
>can't figure out anyone's fucking game plan
>everyone just flies around doing whatever they want

>>388400556
There is data for two FFXII characters in the arcade version right now that haven't been implemented. One uses straight up guard to trigger a grounded 2 brave combo that ends in an HP charge based on the inputs they can see.

>>388400562
you forgot
>always get gangfucked by two people

>>388400812
>get gangfucked by two
>barely manage to KO one
>hang on for a while longer but get KO'd eventually
>allies managed to lose two lives 2v1
oh

>>388371230
Is there any Final Fantasy protagonist capable of beating Cloud?

>>388400562
Stay near your team and don't overextend.
>>388400662
Oh, that sounds pretty interesting. I didn't know people were actually able to get that kind of info from the game. By straight up guard you mean the normal shield guard mechanic and not something like WoL's shield or Jecht Block right?

>>388400556
Which HP attacks should I use?

>>388400347
>>388400662
There's an arcade rip? Does it function at all or is it online only?

Why does the game play like shit?

>>388400919
>play Zidane
>carefully maneuver around opponents trying to catch them off guard
>Opponent lands one lucky hit and die
>lose

I don't think I appreciate this sharing lives thing.

>>388401047
The ones you want to is the short answer. The long answer is, Red Spiral is fairly short range but quick and can be good for combos, while White Whorl is a pretty fast good projectile and area denial tool. Azure Torment is fast and strong as shit but unsafe to whiff and has extremely short range. Calamitous Orb works like a kind of floating turret so you can send it into a crowd and watch people run, but it can be hard to actually hit with since it moves slowly. Essentially the first set is more balanced and well rounded while the second set is similar but much more extreme in their use, covering opposite ranges.

I wish Squall's Rough Divide HP attack was in the beta. Fated Circle has limited range and the other one is slow as fuck.