When Will TF2 Die?

Probably around 10-15 years after TF3 comes out.

>>388366261
It's already dead

>>388366421
not true

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>>388366261
the only thing that can kill tf2 is valve

>>388366261
Never ever PCbro.

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It won't if you play it. There's a few hours before THE BIG MONEY FIGHT so let's play some TF2.
> keet.pw
> Micspam - no talking, ponies or zionism

>>388368872

the what?

>>388369779
UFC
Its a burger thing

>>388369779
tl:dr if the white guy wins nothing changes and some shitposting happens, but if the black guy wins /pol/ will generate enough salt to fuel expeditions to various planets

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its on life support as is

the devs left are enthusiasts who actually make an effort to talk to people unlike the rest of Valve, but they're just a handful and its looking like big updates might be beyond them.

>>388366261
I wish we could go back to the way things were before Gunmettle, I really hate the gun skins, picking up other players weapons, ammo box rework.

>>388366261
Either people will stop playing it because it becomes literally unplayable or something like TF3, whether fan made or official or something else entirely but carrying the spirit of the games, comes along and people start playing it instead.

It died with the polycount update for me.

>>388366420
So... never

>>388366261
Literally consistently in the top 10 most played games chart on steam on a day by day basis. Pretty good for a game that's 10 years old in 2 months with an outdated engine while Pornwatch is out. It may be declining but certainly not dying.

>>388372725
why

It died with the Mann-conomy update.

Pyro update

>>388373425
there's such a fuckhuge gap between tf2 and the other two (three now) games that it's more likely that nobody really plays anything else on steam

>>388366261
もう死んでいる

>>388366421
/thread
no play this shit anymore

>>388373703
I find that weird too. Here's the numbers of current players as of now, also this is roughly:
>Dota 2: 382,000
>CSGO: 265,000
>PUBG: 258,000
>TF2: 58,000
Still pretty damn good for a game in TF2's situation but holy fug that drop.

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As soon as I find a third cosmetic to go with my Luigi Engie

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idk about you guys but I already moved on and started playing tf3

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>>388375148
>tfw koticwatch crashes and burns literally 10x faster than TF2

>>388375471
not even meming but it really does feel like OW is just replicating TF2's lifespan at a much, much faster rate

it's like a literal clone of TF2

>>388366421
Well, I reinstalled it lately (I do it once per 2-3 years to see what is new) and there are plenty of people.

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>>388375148
>>388375471
>Not playing and enjoying both regularly

>>388369779
Its the boxing match between Mayweather and McGregor.

>>388375998
why would I play a game that isn't good over one that is?

>>388375148
I stopped playing FPS games altogether.

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>>388375693
>it's like a literal clone of TF2
It would be a lot better off if that was the case. Instead it's a vastly inferior version of it.
>>388376226
This guy/girl gets it.

>>388376386
so it's a clone with all the shitty genes, like Liquid.

Does that mean there's a Solid version of TF2 that nobody's found yet?

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>>388376226
>over
Who implied that, friendo?

>>388376581
I guess I meant why would I spend equal time on both when I could instead be playing the better game more?

>>388376567
Yes.
It's called Quake Team Fortress.

>>388368872
What programs do people use to mic spam? I'm trying to set up a soundboard but don't have any idea how to wire it up to go through my mic

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>pubstomping on Casual
>round end, map vote comes up
>everyone votes for TC Hydro for some reason
>all those new players who hadn't seen it and couldn't tell what was going on
>>388376837
Wouldn't that be Big Boss?

>>388377573
Don't blame them Hydro hasn't been on the rotation in a long fucking time

Though one of my favorite things about the game is that no matter how many times I play there there's always somebody getting lost on Steel

>>388376567
Solid was the ones with the shit genes. They bait and switched them as part of a NvN experiment.
It's the same experiment here, can the inferior game get more success by having greater marketing.

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>>388366421
> Somewhere around 59k players right now according to steam charts
> Dead

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>Remember following the game for years
>Remember getting excited when the beta trailers were shown
>Playing at launch and joining a clan to stomp in random servers
>Early updates were pretty good with actual content being in instead of hats
>Everything up til MvM was good
>MvM was the best game mode
>Literally was abandoned after one or two updates
>Game nosedived right into a burning dumpster fire
>Even the devs themselves admitted they've been shitting the bed for years

>>388377812
I can't blame them just because of that, you're right, but it was still funny as hell watching them freak out.
>BLU team gets pushed to their base
>all of them are shouting about how they can't find the point
It was a good time.

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>>388373853
no english anymore

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTQnnZGLYaw

Maybe I should give the PC version a try. I remember playing it on the 360 Orange Box, I loved it.

>>388382134
360 TF2 is unironically superior for TF"2" on PC

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>>388376735
Because the better game gets stale after a long period of no updates, while OW gets semi-frequent updates and content patches so it constantly stays fresh. Plus OW is more fun to play with friends than TF2 is, imo.

>>388382134
Don't bother. I almost miss all the hours I put into 360 TF2 because it's the best version of the game that stands.

>>388377049

google half life dj

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>>388373853

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>>388366420
I heard that if the pyro update flops tf2 will go to the community for updates (but those were just rumors)

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>>388382202
>Pyro, Engie, and Spy are all completely useless
>Can't move buildings after setting them down
>All classes are locked to their stock Melee, which is a massive downgrade from their unlocks for 6/9 classes
>Fun alternate playstyles like Kritzkrieg, Direct Hit, Force-A-Nature, Banners, Loose Cannon, and Gunslinger are nonexistent
>6 maps, one of which is Hydro
>No Sandvich
You're entitled to your opinion, but it sounds to me like you haven't played TF2 in years and are letting board perception of the game effect your opinion.

>>388382134
Do not listen to memeshitters trying to "ironically" tell you the bug-ridden, map-constrained, demoman-dominated, unpopulated, crits galore version is better, it's all jade tinted glasses.

WHERE THE PARTYVAN SERVER AT

>>388366859
And they're doing a fine good job at it.
PYRO UPDATE WHEN?

>>388382495
That's probably the most likely outcome desu

I've been playing Overwatch recently.
It's a ton of fun, guys. Having a million classes isn't nearly as bad as I thought it was. Plus there's no real Spy equivalent so I can play pseudo Heavy (Orisa) without worry of backstabs, plus OW's equivalent to Soldier isn't nearly as strong as an actual Soldier, so I don't need to worry about some pubstomper Black Box soldier single handedly winning a game. Plus loads of characters have a self heal, meaning you aren't forced to run Medic to win.
I didn't realize how many aspects of TF2 I didn't really enjoy, but got used to putting up with until now.

Game is oversaturated as shit. Too many cosmetics that shit up the aesthetic and weapons with ridiculously long names. Played alot in 2010. I loved the "4chan" maps made by Xenon

>>388382495
Good. I'd like for some fresh and passionate blood to go into TF2's spaghetti code and turn it around for the better.

>>388366261
>FB_IMG

I mean, it's okay if you post an image with a mobile, a Tumblr or even an imgur filename, but posting shit directly from Facebook is going too fucking far

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>>388382495
But what about the Heavy update they've promised? Surely Valve's integrity would prevent them from going back on their promise of additional cont-
Oh, never mind.

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>>388383036
Do you think any anons will make another map?

>>388382495
>I heard that if the pyro update flops tf2 will go to the community for updates
you mean like they already do? when was the last time valve did an update that wasn't mostly community made stuff?

>>388383182
Nah m8. What made the old maps so great was the lol so randumb 4chan humor of the time

>>388380487
Who the fuck is still playing this game? Turbo-autists? Brazilians? I haven't heard TF2 so much as mentioned in years.

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>>388383060
>mfw sigsev isn't healthy enough to work for valve
the hero we dont deserve

>>388382202
>no Sandvich
Honestly considering how the Sandvich created "friendly" culture it's probably best if it were never created.

>>388372002
>tfw I want the black guy to win because boxing beating ufc is more important than "lol blacky got beet"
>I also don't want to see all the shit posting

>>388383561
>I haven't heard TF2 so much as mentioned in years.
Have you not been on /v/ for the past four months?

CATCUS CANYON WHEN

I hope it outlasts overwatch.

>>388383767
It and Asteroid have both officially been put on hold as a low-priority goal.

it's on life support now. Only the traders and botters keep it in such high numbers. Once valve finds a way to suck the last dime out of it or the economy of tf2 is disrupted (for example, trade in TF2 items for dota artifact items/currency) TF2 will experience the mass exodus.

>>388377812
I literally got spawned in the wrong part of the map while playing hydro. Like no joke the map broke and I was locked on the wrong capture point.

>>388383738
Admittedly, no. I migrated to /tg/ several months ago and came back to /v/ for the HL3 news.
Why, did something happen recently? I know /v/ talks about it from time to time, but it's usually just to shit on how bad it's become.

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>>388374005
lol

>tfw you watch people play the game mode you worked on for tf2 and are enjoying themselves

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>>388383668
If they slapped a 'Marked for death on wearer while active and for 3 seconds after switching weapons' on the Sandvich, how much Hoovy butthurt do you think it would generate?

>>388384103
There's this huge update that's taken 1+ year to make, and there's still no sign of it coming out.

>>388384197
They should have never nerfed the sandwich.

Just like the axesting it was fine until the weapons around it made it over powered.

>>388384306
>huge update
lol

>see heavy with mark for death above him
>"oh good, i'll shoot him and kill him easily!"
>shoot him
>it's not a mini-crit
>he turns around and miniguns me to death
>still has the mark for death above him
Seriously when is this glitch being fixed? It happens with both Escape Plan Soldiers and Gloves of Running Urgently Heavies.

>>388383617
He isn't healthy? What?

>>388384306
>we're not getting anything for the anniversary, summer, or winter
>any changes or nerfs will be permanent for an entire year at minimum

>>388384363

If they ever fix it they will break something else, that glitch most likely appeared after they fixed something, Valve should really rebuild TF2.

>>388382202
>>388382578
The only things I'd miss from nu-TF2 are the Pyro airblast, Engineer building-moving, destructible stickybombs, and some of the maps.

Weapon options in general were a mistake, and the less said about cosmetics the better.

>>388384363
>you've been fake so many times you don't even rely on it and you're just mildly surprised when it happens

>>388384363
Allegedly sigsev was offered a job at valve but he had to decline due to IBS or narcolepsy or some shit.

>>388384523
>some of the maps
Every single one of the old maps are unplayable now compared to new maps.

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>>388383847
At the rate OW is circling the drain it undoubtedly will.

>>388382996
You're essentially saying that Overwatch is fun because it's piss easy. I mean ok man you do you, but that's not really a point in OW's favour for most people.

>>388384631
>greedy devs removing mods for dlc shit is what's killing their sales

Pottery

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>>388380487
>high player count means the game is alive
After numerous shitshow updates the soul of this game was already killed off. Meet Your Match was the nail for the coffin.

>>388384759

while we're on the subject of most people, most people have moved on from tf2

>>388384876

60k isn't even high. you know your game is ded when it can't even reach 100k, even when it's "updated"

the majority simply doesn't care anymore.

>>388385090
>updated
Is that the updated number?

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>>388384979
What was the point of this bitchy, passive aggressive response? Do you really think you came out looking better for it? Did you actually derive any satisfaction from posting it?

>>388385236
it's fucking saturday, the most people logged into tf2 was 66k

>>388385236

i meant when it gets those few and far between updates from valve

obviously

>>388384979
Sure, but not to Overwatch. A bunch of people switched but then realised OW was a casual shitshow with a dirt low skill floor and ceiling and either switched back or moved on to something else.

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>>388385090
>60k isn't even high
It is for a literally ten year old fucking game.

>>388385330

truth hurts
you're trying to act superior so i felt like putting my three cents in

don't act superior. you have no right to. your fav game is nearly ded.

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>>388384523
>Weapon options in general were a mistake
Why do you dislike having more than 9 ways to play the game?

>and the less said about cosmetics the better.
You could just install a no-cosmetics mod, you know.

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>>388375148
>overwatch
The game is already dying and its barely been out for as long as TF2 has - At least the porn is top notch though.

I reinstalled a couple of days ago.
Are there any stock servers? Stock maps, stock weapons only, etc.? The game's still fun but I just want to experience it plain again.

I tried out "vanilla" servers but "vanilla" just means unmodded dedicated servers with a rotation.

>>388385441
But we all know a bunch of that is idlers and botters for metal. I wonder how the real count looks.

>>388385390

i guess that's why it's been stuck at 50k for a few years now, because everyone went back to it

rofl

valve drones are pathetic
i'm glad you won't be getting anything half life related anymore

>>388385508
>at least 2 mill people playing it daily across pc and consoles
>dead

valve drones everyone

>>388385537
Nice goalposts, anon.

>>388385550
Or they never switched

>>388385390
Not him, but I play Overwatch over TF2, I just don't play Overwatch as much as I used to play TF2. It was so easy to just unwind and binge about 6+ hours of TF2 in one sitting, Overwatch just isn't that kind of game. I moved on to singleplayer games and niche japanese titles that I missed out on during my time with TF2 instead.

>>388382996
You see there's nothing wrong with OW being a casual game.
The problem comes in when it also has a hard counter system, shallow character gameplay, shit character personalities, and meta faggots who will shit themselves if you don't follow said meta. I mean if your team have a good idea of what their doing then you'll rarely ever get pubstomped and if you do get put on a team of idiots you can just change server or proceed to carry them in TF2. You can't do that in OW because of the aforementioned problems which is why many people see OW has a shittier version of TF2, you can't carry because of the hard counter system and how piss easy every character is to play. Some of them don't even need to aim their actual abilities. Individual skill hardly factors in this game unless you're so useless you shot your ultimate in the opposite direction.

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>>388385442
Acting pissy accomplishes nothing.
Posting in a thread about a game you don't like is only going to make you feel worse and worse when everyone inevitably disagrees with your opinions and cracks your fragile little ego. Why would you do this to yourself? Why

>>388385687
If one anonymous post says ow is dead then that's the same evidence.

>>388385729

speak for yourself. i can play overwatch for hours. it's how i unwind after a stressful day.

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>Play Spy on 2Fort with Cloak and Dagger
>Disguise as Heavy
>Sit behind an enemy Sniper and spam "nice shot" every time he misses
>Watch as he wildly swings his kukri around

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>>388385486
>TS paint on an already team-colored cosmetic

>>388385919
it's a different shade

>>388385807

doesn't make me feel anything except happiness. whenever i see these threads on /v/, i think to myself "lol they same people are making the same threads to discuss the same decade old game, they're pathetic"

>>388385869
It's impossible to unwind while playing Overwatch, if anything it's the type of game that winds you up. I'm pretty sure I speak for a majority of people when I say binging Overwatch is nowhere near as satisfying as binging TF2 was.

>>388385958
It's also a waste of money

Veteran pc fag who came from xbox fag here

After the news broke on HL3, I picked up The Orange Box for 360 to relive how I originally played them. Been messing around on vanilla TF2, and it's so fun. Plenty of active games, and the server browser is simple but much more efficient than the whole "drop you in to whatever game" system. It's nice to be able to choose my map and player count.
And the maps feel big again! It's fantastic. A few of us were in the courtyard on 2fort and when an enemy Heavy and Medic started pusing in, I hit behind the inside wall of the big staircase. What I'm trying to say is the pacing feels good. Will probably stream later tonight.

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>That one friend you made playing TF2
>He was last online 964 days ago

>>388385550
If it's been stuck at 50k for years then you've proven that people didn't leave it for Overwatch permanently. TF2 is slowly dying but your casual happy fun time shit isn't what's killing it.

>>388385550
>i guess that's why it's been stuck at 50k for a few years now, because everyone went back to it
And you're trying to say that like it's a bad thing? Are you a fucking idiot? If people go back to something then that obviously means that it's good enough to go back too even though it's almost ten years old by now.

Or if you're saying that as some form of sarcasm, nigga 50k has kept it at the top of fucking steam charts for a long time now. Hell it's still in the top 10 today despite it's age.

>>388386073
Sniper detected

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>>388372036
>who actually make an effort to talk to people

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>>388386040
>be made to play TF2
>fall in love with it
>get into comp
>friends jump ship to other games
>always try to get them to play TF2
>they never come back

>>388386003

you don't speak for anyone except yourself

ever since i started playing overwatch i realized how retarded the whole valve system is.

you join a sever, you sit there and listen to the same people for however long you decide to stay there, then you either quit out of the program or find a different server to do the exact same thing. it's boring shit.

at least with overwatch i'm cycling through games and meeting different people.

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>>388385990
Then why are your posts so bitter and vindictive?
Like in >>388385442, you took it really personal. That is not a happy post.

>>388386059

the joke was that nobody went back to it. i'm sorry you missed it.

>>388386170
>get into comp
Gee I wonder why they ditched your faggot ass

>>388386170
Fucking this.

I only play overwatch because my friends play it, and I secretly hate it. I've tried nudging them towards TF2 but they dont want to play it because it isn't hip or whatever.

I just wish they'd give it a chance

>>388386263

i didn't take it personally. right now i'm calm as a cucumber regardless of the words on your screen.

>>388386195
>you join a sever, you sit there and listen to the same people for however long you decide to stay there
That's why you socialize with the people there anon, that's how humans talk and get to know each other you fucking space alien.

>>388386195
>you join a sever, you sit there and listen to the same people for however long you decide to stay there, then you either quit out of the program or find a different server to do the exact same thing
>at least with overwatch i'm cycling through games and meeting different people
How are these two different from eachother though, switching servers is instant and completely under your control depending on what gamemode you want to play or map, matchmaking is delayed and out of your control.

>>388386349
But I also pub everyday... Don't be like that, you can enjoy both aspects of the game.

>>388386170
>comp tf2

even back when tf2 was relatively new, the idea of a comp scene was a joke. it has always been a joke. and anyone who participates it it and comes out of it thinking they're something more than they are is also a joke.

>>388386439

with overwatch i don't have to lift a finger. the game automatically puts me in a new game when the other is finished.

>>388386509
I just threw it in because I liked the game that much. I'm not better than anyone else who loves TF2. I play plenty of both modes.

>>388386329
That doesn't make sense though. If there were 50k players before Overwatch came out, and there are still 50k players now, then either everyone who left it for Overwatch came back or enough new people started playing that it didn't matter.

Overwatch had, by your numbers, literally no negative impact on TF2, despite it obviously being targeted at the same audience and being talked up as 'the TF2 killer'.

Wow dude you sure showed us.

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>>388386571
Is this some next level irony falseflag or something? Boo-fuckin-hoo, you had to look for a server. You do realize neo-TF2 also has matchmaking, right?

>>388372036
>>388386157
It's true, I emailed TF-Team on Tuesday and they got back to me Friday. That's a pretty fast fucking turnaround for devs who have no real reason to read my shit, much less reply.

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>>388386594
>both modes

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>>388386405
Are you unaware of how absolutely seething your post makes you sound right now?
You're only hurting yourself. You don't have to.

>>388386759
>Email them a bunch of thoughts on balance and propose some changes
>Don't even get a canned response to any of the emails
Th-they're probably just waiting for the update to drop so they can credit me in the post haha...

>>388386824
I'm not really sure what your point is anymore

>>388386025
isn't paint like 2 pennies now

>>388386675

a lot of games have matchmaking.

>>388386623

i don't have to show you anything. that's reality's job. whether or not you acknowledge reality is another story entirely.

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>HL3 canceled forever
>still no tf2 update
i'm not boycotting but i haven't had the will to login to steam since then

>>388386824
With more maps than OW will ever have.

>>388386896

whatever. i'm not the one spazzing out about a 10 year old video game that even in its hayday wasn't very good.

just another meme game.

>still no update

god DAMNIT, I'm actually starting to get upset.
I wish that faggot didn't say it would be up around july. Like seriously I would have just heard about it when it came up and started being invested in it then.

Gah

>>388387069
are you doing the "well your thing sucks and I never liked it so there!" thing?

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what do you expect the map to be like?

>>388386907
Mine opened up asking about particle effect limitations and model animation restrictions for workshop stuff and ended up being about how shit heavy is.
They didn't have anything to say about my opinion on natascha.

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>>388382495
Can you stop spreading unsourced bullshit?
What Valve SAID is that if the Pyro Update isn't popular they're going to swap from "long breaks between big updates" to "short breaks between small updates". That's all.
>>388382959
>>388383060
>>388383072
>>388383190

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>>388387151
>figured the update would be out during the summer when everyone would be around to play
>wasn't around for anniversary either

>>388386968
Literally what are you even trying to say? Just stop now before you embarrass yourself further. Ill9give you a quick recap to help you realise how retarded you sound:

>Overwatch is good because it has matchmaking, unlike TF2
>TF2 also has matchmaking though
>lots of games have matchmaking!

>everyone left TF2 for Overwatch and never came back
>the numbers have not decreased since Overwatch came out, demonstrating that you're factually incorrect
>lol you're ignoring reality

>>388387269
Source on that? And what do they even mean by "isn't popular"?

>>388387303
>valve has nothing planned for the 10th anniversary
>if its not up in september its not up for 3 more months

>>388387307

i already said what i meant. you're the one who doesn't know when to shut the hell up.

fyi matchmaking was a thing before tf2 was.

>>388387069
>I don't care about this game so much that I voluntarily post on threads about it all the time
???

>>388387236
I don't know but I'm going to make a lot of sfm porn on it.


I hope its payload though, because valve really makes good payload maps and I really really want to see another good payload map.

like shit now I'm giddy.

>>388386968
>i don't have to show you anything. that's reality's job. whether or not you acknowledge reality is another story entirely.
>This is bait.jpg

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>>388386968
>a lot of games have matchmaking
You were just complaining about how you hated TF2's format and loved Overwatch's, yet they both have a matchmaking system. What the fuck are you even arguing about anymore?

>>388387151

funny thing is it won't even be worth le wait. you'll get a few new shitty weapons that will be nerfed into the ground like everything else eventually, a new map, and A WHOLE BUNCH OF NEW HATS.

WOW THAT CERTAINLY DESERVED TO TAKE MORE THAN A YEAR TO SHIT OUT.

>>388387236
STICKIES IN EVERY BRUSH
AROUND BLACKS, *NEVER* RELAX

>>388387417

i wasted 9 years of my life playing this trash because friends. i'll do and say whatever i want about this meme game.

>>388387269
>What Valve SAID is that if the Pyro Update isn't popular they're going to swap from "long breaks between big updates" to "short breaks between small updates". That's all.

HOLY SHIT YES

this is actually a good thing because valve updates can fuck over a weapon for like a year until the next update.

and if that update doesn't fix the weapon then its two years until its fixed.

I'm not even saying that weapons will be fixed every short update but at least they'll be informed after the first update that doesn't fix it.

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>>388385090
>60k isn't even high
what
>top 10 on Steam "isn't even high"
>bigger playerbase than hundreds of thousands of other games "isn't even high"
can we make these kind of posts bannable? thanks gookmoot

>>388387519
>all matchmaking systems are the same

this is you.

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>>388387269
>Says to stop spreading unsourced bullshit
>Doesn't provide a source

>>388387524
honestly I'm being honest here, I really don't want the update because the proposed fixes or changes are horrendous and will ruin a lot of weapons and buff very little.

I'm very curious as to what they're fixing for the pyro and a new map is always a good thing.

but I'm mildly glad they're postponing.

>>388387647

stop using this top 10 steam bullshit as an excuse because you're just embarrassing yourself. a fucking moba and early access game are on there. it means nothing.

everyone knows pc gaming is dead anyway.

>>388387450
it's already confirmed to be payload, the community made jungle maps aren't.

>>388387607
>I played this game for 9 years so it must be shit.
Then why the fuck did you play it for 9 years?

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>>388387607
>i'll do and say whatever i want about this meme game
Will that really make you feel better?

>>388387760
oh man I'm actually excited now.

upward is probably their best map, and the trend they've been making with payload maps might mean that this could be better than upward.

>>388382372
HLDJ is shit. Use SLAM.
(Source live audio mixer)

>>388387717
The only issues I have are the Spy changes. RNG on amby instead of just increasing damage fall-off or introducing a mini-crit system, huge penalties on the DR and the YER's effective cloak duration.

>>388387761

READING COMPREHENSION FAGGOT

>>388387759
>DOESN'T COUNT the post.

>>388387450
You're in luck because signs indicate it IS a payload map. Valve codenamed it "Thunder Mountain" when they were playtesting it with community mapmakers.

>>388387607
doing something you don't like for nine years sounds like a serious case of weak backbone

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>>388387681
Yes?
>Overwatch matchmaking
>click Quickplay
>game finds a match for you to play on
>endless map rotation until you leave or there aren't enough player slots to fill

>TF2 matchmaking
>click Casual
>game finds a match for you to play on
>endless map rotation until you leave or there aren't enough player slots to fill

>>388366261
it's already dead. 30,000 of the "players" are reported to have bot activity, 16-17k are community server players, and the rest are playing on official servers.

>>388387869
You don't play (thing) for 9 years because of friends alone nigger.
They aren't holding a gun to the back of your head and if you hate it so much fucking say something to them and play something else. It's not hard you autist.

>>388387920

what else was i supposed to be playing on my mustard machine for all those years? there was nothing, faggot, and you know it. and if you mention counter-strike i'll rape your mother.

>>388387991
Tribes and SMNC, before they died that is

>>388387991
You couldn't have gotten or already have had a console? You couldn't have looked at the steam store for 5 seconds and see if there was something you might have liked? Come on be real here, even 9 years ago exactly there was plenty to play on Steam.

>>388387854
The yer change could seriously just be "you require full cloak to disguise" and that would be enough.

it needed a fucking buff, and that change is essentially an option that fucks you over but also gives you a foothold you can seize in the right situation.

Like you're asking the spy for something he never has unless hes far back line and sitting on an ammo kit. and then you basically cut his cloak time in half for him to disguise once.

that's a huge fucking trade off for something thats BARELY worth cloak meter.

oh and disguises are removed by resupply cabinets.

god Yer isn't even worth that much work in the first place.

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>>388387948
>30,000 of the "players" are reported to have bot activity
Source:

>>388388219

no, there really wasn't. it was as empty back then as it is now.

and of course i have consoles. i'm a console gamer. the only reason i bought a good pc years ago was to play tf2 with my friends.

>>388387991
>calling literally the best game you could find on the market bad
are you retarded

>>388386968
>being this retarded
Woah, so this is the power of the Overwatch playerbase.

>>388385664
I can't say much about pc but last time i played Overwatch the time it took to find a normal game was usually about one or two minutes (i was on ps4). That doesn't sound like "2 million players across pc and consoles" unless nobody plays it on ps4.

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>Everytime someone on /v/ tries to make a party van it goes to shit
>No one wants to use the party vans that are already up and running for no good reason
>I will never experience tf2 with /v/ for more then a few days every couple of months

>>388388372
https://teamwork.tf/community/statistics
here ya go pal, enjoy your dead game

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>>388387991
>IF ONLY SOMEONE SPOONFEEDED ME...
I'm surprised you were able to discover OW on your own, or did your friends get it for you champ?

>>388385664
>across pc and consoles
you don't get to count all platforms at the same time; the entire reason playerbase size matters is whether or not you can find a game.

If you say "W-WELL THERE ARE 2 MILLION PEOPLE PLAYING DAILY ACROSS PC AND CONSOLES" and there are 2 million on both consoles and 0 on PC, you're obviously not going to be able to find a game

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>>388382134
Do so, the difference between the two versions is night and day

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>>388387991
HL2DM and Garry's Mod existed, no excuses.

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>>388388534
You fucking braindead idiot. Those bots are Team Fortress 2 bots not 'players' botting.

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>>388387991
>there was nothing, faggot, and you know it. and if you mention counter-strike i'll rape your mother
Here's your (You) anon, this bait of pretending to be a drooling retard was real subtle.

>>388388660
>garry's mod

ah, more meme shit. i was aware of it and did play it for a while, but that's all it ever was: garbage.

>>388384620
Why is that exactly?

I had like 3000 hours on tf2 and I think I spent 2000 of it in 24/7 dustbowl.

>>388385090
As an indie developer, I could easily retire if my game had even an eight of that many concurrent players.

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Is the /v/ server still up?

>>388380487
>60k player is "alive"
>700k players is dead game fotm
/v/ have the most bias and retarded logic

>>388388534
you have to be baiting, I refuse to believe someone can be this retarded

What should I play to replace tf2?

>>388388898
>700k players is dead game fotm

that honestly might be how it works anon.
like if something dropped from 10 million to 700k would you say its dieing and or dead?

>>388388963

do i really need to say it?

overwatch

>>388388898
>Nobody mentions Overwatch being dead.
>OW ISN'T DEAD YOU STUPID NIGGERS
Wooooooow sure showed us XD

>>388384631
>3+ minutes for a match

I don't even wait that long at 4am in the morning, that nigga needs to re-queue.

>>388388820
you set yourself up for this one, what game?

>>388389016
>>388389035
talking about PUBG here, you retards.
and no it din't went from 10 million to 700k.
it went from 100~300k to 700k peak now.

abandon your shitty dead tf2 and join PUBG now, you scrubs.

>>388388963
Gang Garrison

>>388388850
there many /v/ servers, we have the ones with the say sounds, the one that is mvm, and the ones made by anons here that they ruined. Which one ya want senpai?

>>388389075
It's an h-game that violates global rule 3.

>>388389116
the partyvan that had hale introduced

>>388389114
I actually played that before I got a computer that could run tf2, that shit was fun as fuck, learning the timing for face stabs was the greatest accomplishment I've felt in videogames

>>388388963
Nothing can replace TF2, pretty much everything else I try feels inferior.

>>388389114
Is this game even alive anymore?

>>388389109
>abandon your shitty dead tf2 and join PUBG now, you scrubs.
I would but I'm permabanned because I sneezed within 200 ft. of a twitch streamer

>>388389161
God I hope its just lolis

>>388389109
But nobody said that PUBG was dead either you idiot.

>>388389229
>shits never happened before
>HAH sure proved my point here
>XD
you shitposters can't even have quality shitpost nowadays.
why even stay around?

>>388389167
I think that one is dead, ruined by rtd and the owner just not caring after a few days.

>>388389296
Why do you live in this continual ironic state anon?

>>388389296
>stream sniping isn't real

then why does it have a name.

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>>388389316
damn, then just give me the other server ips

>>388386940
Nope.

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>>388389385
4chan party van (internet hunk machine)
64.74.97.123:27015

4chan party van (MvM, no idea why this exists)
64.74.97.123:27022

the party van (the one hosted in the middle of spain and is high ping teleporting playerfest)

51.15.13.7:27015

Just so you know, the first two have models and lots of say sounds to dl when ya first get in

>>388386385
Don't stay silent. Make your voice heard.
Ignoring the problem will only make it worse.
If we all speak up together they won't be able to stop us anymore.

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>>388389607
thanks friend, hopefully there'll be people playing later

>>388389690
>no medic app for my phone

Have you been watching i61, /v/?

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>>388387991
Arena shooters still had a bit of activity left in the late 2000s/early 2010s.
But thanks to punks like you leaving them behind they're now officially dead.
Who am I kidding, someone who actually likes Overwatch wouldn't be physically capable of playing an arena shooter anyway.

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>>388389736
The internet hunk machine sometimes has people on it, usually fridays when someone spams some ultra conservative podcast, for some reason. You would need a good coordinated effort to get people in otherwise. If any of these fucks are brave enough to get on

>>388390014
Is there any hope for arena style shooters to return? Every time I see a new one come out it seems to die quickly.

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>>388390020
I would try to start something, but I gotta do some shit with friends that don't like tf2

>>388390020
tfw used to play on that server a lot
tfw know exactly who said spammer is and he's a cool guy

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>>388390119
Its ok anon, you do the shit, while I wait for some brave souls.

>>388389607
Added. I'm planning to get back into tf2 so that _if_ the update comes out I won't be super rusty.

>>388390638
good luck anon, hopefully the update will bring some people to the game. I miss playing with you fucks on the hunk machine

>>388390237
what map is this
I'm inclined to say hydro but surely that's wrong

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hey /v/,
yore
ugleh

>>388391115
looks like offblast

>>388391115
arena offblast maybe

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>>388391115
Oh that was taken a while ago, I couldnt tell ya anon.

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>>388388898
>/v/ is one person instead of a collective of shitposters and contrarians

fuck off newfag

>>388391197
>>388391194
Hm.
Well I've only played offblast like twice so that'd explain why I couldn't recognize it at least

>>388391194
>>388391197
offblastmind

>>388388898
>>388389109
literally noone ever called pubg dead you drooling luch

>>388385090
tf2 had about 20k players daily before the spy/sniper update

tf2ware is best game mode

>>388383673
>because boxing beating ufc is important
Why? Boxing is garbage.

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>>388373805
悲しい事実ですね

>>388383673
>because boxing beating ufc is more important
none of it is "important" you deluded fuck

>>388391802
>>388392285
>mad ufc babies upset that a garage sport is better than their spectator jew bowl

>>388389109
>BUY MY GAME
Anon I won't judge you for liking a game I don't care about but don't shill so aggressively.

>>388392424
Took your time coming up with that gem, didn't you?

>>388392646
In all honesty I was just mad libbing.

>>388366261
There were 3 nails in TF2's coffin.
The first was the item economy crashing, and never recovering.
The second was Gun Metal update. The skins were a last ditch attempt to revive the economy, instead it just made everything have a douchy texture slapped onto it.
The third was the competitive update, which ended up destroying the "hop online and play with the same batch of 10 - 20 strangers that become friendos over the course of the night" and basically got rid of any reason to play casually, and added like a 5 minute wait time in between matches.

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>>388390113
Not as long as AAA publishers won't give them a chance. You need mad money to compete with shitfaggots and spunkgargleweewees of the present day.

>>388391802
>>388392424
They're both inferior to kickboxing.

>>388392926
What do the first two have to do with gameplay? I'm pretty sure like 95% of the community didn't know shit or even care about the economy.

>>388392926
>actually caring about the trading economy

>>388392926
>the item economy crashing
It did?

> play with the same batch of 10 - 20 strangers that become friendos over the course of the night

how deluded were you to think this was how it used to be?

>want to play spy
>always some cunt has to whine about how many spies there are
Fuck me I guess I'll only ever play soldier then.

>>388392940
That and the fact that arena shooters like Quake are anti-normie as all hell because the learning curve is made all the stepper by all the veterans from previous games who will no doubt show up and stomp everyone else into the dirt.

>>388394576
Just play him anyway. In pubs one good spy can make up for all the others. I remember being the 6th spy, team complained, I backcapped the point and everyone was in an uproar. Happens a lot. I can guarantee though it's a lot more difficult to pull off if your intent is discovered before you can pull off a game-winning cap. Besides you won't get any better if you don't practice. If you aren't braindead, you can carry. If the enemy team knows how to teamwork though you might be beat regardless if you are playing spy or not. Said backcap shenanigans only occur if you have the first point (ready to be) capped and the enemy has no defense on last.
The only times you should rethink playing spy are:
>when there are five (million) pyros on the enemy team spraying their flamethrowers (erratically or otherwise)
>a homewrecker pyro is sucking an engineer's dick and refuses to leave, will taunt your corpse every time
>any teammate sucking an engineer's dick, homewrecker pyro just happens more and is harder to crack into
>Sentry cross-fire defense that requires one or two local pubstomping medic+demo pairs to overthrow
The worst other spies will do is fuel the opposing team's paranoia, but if the spies are shit they won't expect one good (read: lucky) spy to show up among the flock of retards. If you die that just means you're blending in with the retards. In a way, playing spy is literally playing 4chan.

>>388396273
>all the veterans from previous games who will no doubt show up and stomp everyone else into the dirt.
This is what kept me from getting into all the arena shooters I've tried, I'm sad to admit. I'm fine with getting my teeth kicked in at a video game by gods sometimes but when it feels like the only people that still play the game are gods and you can't ever get a game with people at a similar skill level it's very discouraging.

>>388382235
nice demo!

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>TF2 has 60k!!!! it's not dead!!!!

Try 20k. Worldwide.

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>>388398756
Thanks pal

do not reply to the PUBG poster
I bet he's the same guy who keeps making those crying wojak threads pretending we're all collectively BTFO because the game is successful

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Most classes I stopped using fancy cosmetics and started going for a more stock look.

Hell most of my loadouts dont have any cosmetics.

Instead I collect weapon reskins


Also Tf2 is still the top 6th game played on steam so its not dead

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>>388398872
>Teamwork.tf statistics
>A small community server network (Literally says so on the image)
>Literally saying that a small minority represents the entire playerbase because MUH GRAPH

Overwatch fags are this retarded

>>388399721
>blending in with f2p

coward

>>388399873
Retarded bait.

The website queries the master server lists and tracks all players in Valve and community servers. You can do it yourself, if you wanted.

>>388391172
Your wife is not real
She died a long time ago

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>>388399907
I dunno I always prefered no hats on most classes. Or something close to stock.

>>388400002
I feel you there but going naked means no one can recognize you when they want to find you and kill you.

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i miss the spy and engi the most cuz overwatches 2 sentery classes the dwarf and one black chick arent anywhere as fun to play also the equivlent to the spy is not anywhere near as fun as the spy in tf2

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>>388400194
Its futile to go against me anyways.

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>>388399721
>Going for a more 'stock' look
>Equips bright, colorful weapon skins

>>388400303
they're like their own video games, like a tower defense game or a stealth game.

overwatch just feels like a bunch of buffs or something to damage in a shooting game.

>this thing automatically does 25 damage to everything in sight

>this thing means you dodge most damage but if you get hit you lose the dodge bonus

Doesn't feel impactful at all.

>>388387269

>What Valve SAID is that if the Pyro Update isn't popular they're going to swap from "long breaks between big updates" to "short breaks between small updates".

Knowing Valve, it will be no updates EVER!

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>>388366261
Is there anyway I can sell my hats and shit for real world money, or hell, even crypto currency?

I would have sold my shit a long time ago if I could use the money to buy anything other than shitty Steam shovelware.

>>388399956
NEVER LEAVE

>>388400416
The only bright weapon skin is the bat skin which doesnt need to be drawn often.

>>388400539
Marketplace.tf

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>>388386040
>That one "friend" you made playing TF2
>He was a top class heavy with all the rarest cosmetics
>You played a mean medic and rose to the top of the games together
>But in the end, you realise you've never actually talked with im except for asking if he wants to play or strategizing for the match
>He's got many more better medics than you to play with
>Shit as anyone else cept medic, his other friends all kickass with every class
>Haven't talked to him in 3 years after quitting TF2
>Still see him wrecking in CS:GO and TF2 all the time
Why am I so pathetic?

>>388400430
>they're like their own video games, like a tower defense game or a stealth game.

exactly i mean the engi and spy felt the most special but every class felt different, the equivlent to the engi in overbothced sucks ur turret or turrets depending on which engi u choose kinda fuckin suck, and u dont have the dispenser or teley unless u use ur super or sumthin but it doesnt even last. the only class that got brought over relatively well was the medic in mercy

>>388389161
You're lying. Only reason people WOULDNT shill their game is if they're just shitposting

Bet you can't even link it since it doesn't exist

>>388388534
>More than 3,000 bots on servers with no living persons playing

Ice cream? God I love ice cream!

>>388400667
Are you a trap?

>>388400667
>that one friend you made playing TF2
>messages you asking if you want to play
>you play
>message him asking if he wants to play
>he plays
>his turn to invite me to play
>he doesn't
>days pass
>break down and message him asking if he wants to play
>he plays
>surely this time he'll invite me, I invited him twice in a row
>he doesn't
>days pass
>he's online
>he's in TF2
>he hasn't asked me to play
>I asked him multiple times in a row
>don't ask
>never play together again

Why does this happen with every person I meet on TF2? Even when he's the one who added me.

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I am in a limbo of mediocrity I can't escape from.
I am good enough to top score but I'm not good enough to carry the team to victory alone.
And more often than ever, I find myself facing teams of multiple competent players, while my team is usually the classic team of afks, friendlies and new players.
I do my best, I really do, but I rarely win. I don't kid when I say that in the last three times I played tf2 I didn't win a single time.
Sure, I'm not very bad like a f2p and I'm also not Gregor-tier of good but I can say I am an ok player. And yet, it's never enough.
It's getting rough trying to keep playing. Not only I don't win anymore but I also feel I am not improving at all, because playing with my subpar team doesn't allow me to improve.
Sorry for the blogpost but, man, everything I wrote mixed with the complete lack of Pyro update is getting on my nerves.

>>388401571
Digital friendships have a bigger chance to fail than IRL friendships.
It's not your fault.

>>388400303
I envy how Tornjorb's turrets can adapt to slopes in basically every map.
I wish that I could build sentries in tf2 that adapt on the inclination of the terrain too.

>>388400539
Unless you have an unusual, don't expect to gain more than 10 bucks.

>>388399165
Why every new successful multiplayer game must be seen as a threat for you guys?

>>388402684
Everyone who has played a decent amount, feels like this. It just happens to be that if you're in a pub, don't take it as serious as a comp match. Really, a lot of them are just a bunch of kids. Not saying you should move out of QP but more often than not, you're going to have a bad time without coordinating immediately with someone else on the team that wants to win as much as you.

The pyro update should be around the corner, it's there. I know that by now and I can't wait to shit on it as much as don't wish to but boy is it coming.

>>388403982
The success of one these games often drives to make more of them by a bunch of other devs in a rapid rate thinking, that they too will have the same sort of success with another gimmick slapped on top of the established game that was successful in the first place. Most of these cases happens to be a clutter of bad games that go nowhere as far as its predecessor.

In short, "bad" game gets successful = More bad games come out for some part of success.

>>388373805
Ching chong long dong

>>388383063
why do you care

>>388404281
Honestly, competitive puts too much pressure on you. You can't play, say, Pyro or Spy without your team and their team mocking you.
So on one side you have QP, where nobody plays seriously.
And on the other side you have comp, where everyone plays too seriously.
What's in the middle? Community servers. Which basically died since MyM was released.

>>388391172
there you are

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>tfw TF2 is gonna outlive the voice actors for heavy, engi, and demo
The voice actor for Soldier already has throat cancer

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>>388407295
YIPPEEKIYAAHEYAYKYAAAHKAYO

>>388388465
>both vans die within a short time
>can never get them populated
>when you do people just complain about the maps and theres that one tryhard that wont shut up but still gets BTFO
some of the meme maps are pretty good, but having to play wacky races or balloon race for the nth time really eats ass

>>388408069
Well, I guess they can replace them. Or go the Simpsons way, killing the character/game because its VAs die.
In any case, yeah, it's sad.

>>388388465
>No one wants to use the party vans that are already up and running for no good reason
Because the admin of those are nowhere to be found

I've tried overwatch and I personally can't stand it
>all of the political correctness
>every character has this "I love you!" "Well, I love you too!" personality
>all of those horrible terrible accents
>all of the samey-ness, every class only has one role and no variety which leads to
>hard counters - if you're a sniper, you're literally blocked from your role if the enemy team just spams shields

>>388408916
What does the admin going awol have to do with the van not being populated

>>388375471
Well, at very least it crashes far less than TF2 does.

>>388409959
No admin, no moderation, flood of cancer, people leave.
Question yourself why those servers are dead first.

>>388409834
You should write that pile of crap in a, you know, Overwatch thread, not a tf2 one just to find validation. Or to fish for (you).

>>388411050
You sound mad.
Everyone here were already comparing the two, so why not give my 2 cents as well?

>>388411103
I sound mad but that's doesn't make what I said less right.
Those comparing the two before you are just as dumb as you.
I am picking on you because you were the last comment when I joined this thread.

>>388385664
Source? Blizzard does not release active players.

>>388368872
>>388377049
windj.eu

>>388366261
they'd have to kill off the small percentage of community servers that have managed to survive. if they updated the game in a way that I couldn't play on the servers I have been for the last decade then I'd never boot up the game again