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Shine 2017 - Day 2 - Smash National

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Melee, sm4sh and 64 singles going down to top 8 tonight. Westballz, Crush, and KK all in loser's in melee.

brawlhalla and rivals top 8 tonight also.

main streams @VGbootcamp @BigBlueGG

Icons hype :^)
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Breddy cool set
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mango wins
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>>388360117
You forgot to mention SFAT is in losers
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When does /ourguy/ play?
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>westballz vs crush in round 1 losers
W E L C O M E T O S H I N E
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Where were you when he won Shine?
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>>388360280
true, 2-1 to Rocky
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Cactus has a solid shot
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>>388360308
is he wearing a toe sock on one foot and a normal one on the other?
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>>388360354
Where were you when he won Shine?
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>be marth main having another internal crisis on "should i switch to fox"
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>>388360520
Is Wizzy even here?
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>>388360540
but marth beats fox :^)
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https://twitter.com/LiquidHbox/status/901575464912871424
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Who is the Floyd "Money" Mayweather of Melee?
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>>388360320
Who did crush lost to?
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>>388360639
hbox's personality/style, mango's background
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>>388360614
what would possess someone to play like that?
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>>388360675
Luigigoshard
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>>388360675
luigigoshard, best luigi in kentucky
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>>388360614
2037 meta
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>>388360614
What's his endgame?
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>Rocky beat Sfat AND Hugs
Who the fuck is this dude
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>>388360917
I think Hugs was just a friendly, they wouldn't meet in bracket until later.
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>>388360917
scandinavians are taking over
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>>388360917
When? Are these games on stream?
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Surprised Cactuar didn't start with fox. He's good at the ditto

>>388360917
He was talking about the first time they played on twitter

>>388361045
Not Norwegian Rocky
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>>388360117
I don't like how attractive Marth looks here.
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>>388361119
>>388361025
Oh damn, my b.
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>>388360614
>hbox watching people's inputs again
What a piece of shit.
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>>388361214
kek
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n0ne decided to actually play ppu
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>>388361119
No wait, Rocky is Swedish

We don't have any good players. Zorc got bibbety bopped
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>>388361339
I dont think he was ever really gonna drop out
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>>388361339
>>388361423
he was joking about dropping out
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>>388361381
hey at least Zorc beat Laudandus back when Laudandus was remotely relevant
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>/ourguy/ dabuz drops out

time to root everything on our other guy M2K
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Reminder ICs are a bad character and you shouldn't be losing to them except maybe on FD.
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>most up and coming players are ICs
>most up and coming fox players are ICs slayers
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>nintenjude
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wobbling ban when?
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Junebug 2-1 Syrox
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>>388361883
reminder that you're a fucking retard and your family talks about you behind your back
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>>388361580
Is m2k in the smash 4 tournament too?
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Why is slox so fly?
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>>388362078
m2k please I'm a big fan.
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>>388362041
>Rocky vs Junebug
Another retarded round 1 of top 96
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>>388362041
rip
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>>388362134
he was, lost to komo earlier, not sure if he is still in
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I'm pretty sure literally every player I picked for fantasy is in losers besides Plup
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>>388362437
>he doesn't pick at least one god
retard
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>>388362437
My fantasy is doing fucking amazing if it hadn't been for FUCKING DRUGGEDFOX
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Ever think Melee is going to die? Where are all the melee players going to go if it does? Sm4sh? Or some other game like smash?
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>>388362651
same here. picked dabuz in tr4sh too.
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>>388362703
Melee is going to survive by sheer autism, getting a resurgence with every Smash game.
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The whole argument that wobbling shouldn't be banned because people shouldn't get wobbled is fucking stupid. I shouldn't have to ive up my stock just because Ic grabbed me, where is the counterplay? Just saying don't get grabbed is fucking stupid. No other character has that condition where you basically lose your stock for just getting grabbed, an essential mechanic in the game.
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>>388363016
t. m2k
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>>388362703
They probably won't ever go to smash 4. Speaking of which, too much top player bitching lately, calling for bans and more nerfs.
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>>388362703
thinking melee players are ever moving to a new game in the series is like thinking a baseball player would move into basketball. I don't think most of the melee scene considers the smash games as under the same category in anything but name.
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>>388362703
the masses are getting better so its possible the era of gods will end very soon, breathing new life into the scene. If it dies, its not for a while
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Banning wobbling makes no sense. If you ban it, then if someone loses to an ICs anyway, the losing player will go right back to the super campy style they used to use vs ICs, assuming they haven't been. That's where the degeneracy shows up.
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>>388363159
>I don't think most of the melee scene considers the smash games as under the same category in anything but name.
Yeah, not even PM gets that benefit. Melee players will stick to Melee until it dies.
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>>388363275
tHATS SOME STRONG AUTISM
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>>388363358
If you play the perfect game, why settle for anything less?
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What do you guys think of Gimr, video game pro turned businessman,or a balding jew who saw how he could extort more money
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>>388363275
PM did it to itself. Melee had already cut itself away from Brawl and Brawl players were the ones who made and supported PM. PM also feels off, had a circlejerk backroom, and is way easier to play than Melee.
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>>388363453
GREED
IS
MY
REASON
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>>388363453
Runs a good channel and has been really important for the community
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I'm hearing something about Westballz DQ
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>>388363453
Murderer of PM. Should be in jail.
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>Westballz about to get DQd
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>>388363443
>Perfect game
My man...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpuBAFGI4jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEA9QSM1BUU
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>>388363545
>>388363519
these are both true
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>>388363453
pragmatic businessperson that provides more content and puts in more work than most of the scene put together minus TOs caught up by memes of people that have never been to a local
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westballz v crush happening rn off stream
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Seems as if Plup is going all Samus
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PLUB CLUB
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>Plup's samus
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>literal who commentators who have never played the game at a half decent level
I know there aren't enough commentators but I fucking hate faggots like this.
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>>388363738
bravo shine
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Stop playing floaties.
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>>388363784
if he's not giving trif the ntsc sheik business then yeah probably
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>>388363602
That's what makes Melee perfect, though.
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>>388363784
yea, until he is up against mango, hbox, or m2k
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>>388363498
>and is way easier to play than Melee.
This is the one thing I don't really get in terms of disliking PM.
I felt like it's a perfect level of accessibility, not Smash 4 levels where you get C stick warriors or insane buffers, but it's still feels fluid.
Janky and terrible balance issues are far better reasons to dislike it imo.
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>>388363784
why is he trying so hard to not win a major
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>>388363834
Floatie vs Spacie is the best matchup in the game
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>>388363576
I'm outside the loop how did Gimr kill PM?
Can I get a quick rundown?
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>>388363602
I've seen the first one, and if the second is anywhere near as retarded I'm not watching it.
>Shows good move like sheik's fair or shine or whatever
LE MELEE IS BROKEN IT HAS GOOD MOVE XD
TOO BAD ITS NOT LIKE TR4SH WHERE EVERYTHING DOES 8% MAX
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>>388363784
He's doing the Armada strat of playing a floaty until he gets to players good enough to abuse the mu.
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>>388363879
This, Melee is a glorious mess. Nothing will ever be like it again, only hope to fill a little bit of its shadow.
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Would you guys support a Melee HD on the Switch VC. What about the Melee community?
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Anyone got the gif of Sc2 Keen clapping? That's how I feel watching Plup's face at times in games
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>late fair hit into charge shot
hugo has literally fucking played this game for 30 years why have i never seen him do setups like this?
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Crush vs West
https://www twitch tv/mach1alex19
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>>388364158
melee hd it already on pc
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>>388364176
who put them in losers?
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>>388364045
Used to be one of the biggest PM streamers and PM was actually how VGBC got its start. Eventually he stopped streaming PM and removed all PM vods from the channel, and took like a year to reupload all the VODs to a secondary channel (also worth noting that at that point most of their most-viewed videos were also PM)
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>>388364176
thanks bro
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Why did Icons have to be so terrible?
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damn plup is an ugly son of a bitch. go trif.
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>>388364158
If Melee HD was a perfect replica down to the last frame, then the community would support it
Unfortunately, that'll never happen under Nintendo
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>>388364176
westballz getting fucked lel
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>>388364158
no controller for it
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>>388364045
Stopped streaming it at Xanadu and took down the vods of months of PM sets off his channel.
Somehow this is killing it, but if one streamer dropping it is killing a game, then the community must be fragile as shit

>>388364158
I would, but only if it's PAL
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>>388364329
VGBC did not startup off PM lmao. That's just gross historical revisionism at that point.
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>>388364045
Nintendo and Twitch killed it.
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>>388364353
Everyone that responds with this to posts about Melee or Smash in general on the Switch are so fucking retard
>what
>is
>an
>adapter
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I want Lucky to beat Leffen, he's a cool dude.
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>>388364158
-would I have to buy a Switch?
-is there a controller with analog triggers?
-what's the frame delay?
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ok guys I need help. I'm usually playing on pal but now I finally set up netplay. I'm maining falcon and for the love of god I cannot gentleman in this version. None of the tricks are working consistently and it's really tripping me off.
Any falcon bros here that could share how they were able to learn that tech?
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>>388364546
>-would I have to buy a Switch?

>>388364158
>Would you guys support a Melee HD on the Switch VC

Gee anon, i don't know. You tell me.
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>>388364581
LRAstartfox
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>>388364581
I'm pretty sure that the gentlemanly timing is the same in all Melee versions.
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>>388364158
Only if it had online like Sm4sh

>>388364116
The delusion in the melee community. A move that comes out frame one and makes the user invincible frame 1 and on top of that has massive hitstun that sends you down and away is more than a good move. Also
>BU-BUT SMASH 4
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>>388364581
pal gentleman is a lot more lenient than ntsc gentleman
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>>388364667
no pal is way easier
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>>388364619
Oh then of course I wouldn't support it.
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>>388364667
it's not at all. gentleman is really easy in pal
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Crush 2-1 west, bo5. PPU beat none
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>>388364627
very funny

>>388364667
like >>388364692 said, in pal you can basically gentleman for free. i can do it 100% of the time in pal but I cannot do it in ntsc at all.
I'm pretty sure it doesn't even work if you just casually press a thrice.
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oh neat lets see wha-

>peach vs samus
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>>388364858
no n0ne :( if he loses in losers rn what placing would he have?
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>>388364858
why are they not running a second stream. I'd rather watch this than 100 minutes of floaties
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>>388363602
He lists Pichu being a joke character, phantom hits, and the distinction between spikes and meteors as "broken."
Then says at the end of the video "I don't really mean the stuff in this video is broken, it's just the title lmao xD"
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>>388364858
>Crush 2-1 west
lmfao called it too soon faggot
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>>388364581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYKI5wZyFQs

Heres how I learned
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>>388365001
No. I said it's 2-1, which it is. And also that it's a bo5. I thought it was clear, I should've said up 2-1
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THIS THREAD IS NOW PROPERTY OF THE PLUP CLUB
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>>388365143
twitch faggots please go
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>>388365143
PlupW
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Chu 3-0 dizzkid, moon 3-1 redd
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>>388365076
>5 minutes long
>oh my god dude uuhhhhh another beautiful gentleman
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>>388365217
ur de feggit
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Crush 3-0 FaggotBallz

Ballz out in 129th
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WESHBAWZ
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>>388365448
damn that last stock from west was sick
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>>388365448
I want reddit of this thread
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>>388365319
YAYYUUZZZZZ. when wobbling is less of a factor dizz gets rekt by the top player
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>>388360734
I think I remember hims saying that when he was little he thought that that was how you held the controller so he just learned to play like that
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ranked 12th in the world btw
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>>388365498
westballz should be ranked 14 or some shit imo
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>hook up netplay today
>playing with my bud from Ontario with like 60ms delay
>using my shitty 10+ year old 360 controller that has to have huge deadzones set on both sticks or else there'll be drift

Still brety gud although lag meta seems to be roll and c-stick.
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battle of the upsetters. spark upset wess with ICs and legend upset KK with puff. spark going sheik for this
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>>388365903
Spark played Sheik the whole time.
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They seriously decided to show this set?
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3-2 Mang0 vs. Rik
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>>388365715
You should probably get a gc adapter.
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Westballz 3-2 Crush
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>>388366021
>plup vs moon offstream

the fuck?
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crush 3-1 wes
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m2k knocked into losers
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Mike Haze 3-0 Hbox
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>>388366021
Of all the sets they could have streamed they showed half an hour of Peach/Samus and a set between two literally who's

Meanwhile Crush got eliminated by Westballz in an actually hype set and the only way to watch it was on Alex19's phone stream
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Hbox 0-3 Chair
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Moon up on Plup 1-0 offstream, source: alex streaming leffen's twitter
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.tv/mach1alex19 moon vs plup just started
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https://www.twitch
.tv/mach1alex19

Plup vs The moon
Whoever wins, we lose.
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It's STILL Plup's Samus btw
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rip stream

8/25/17 - 8/26/17

;_;
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Did Plup go Samus game 1? Or did he just go Samus cause it's FD?
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GREED
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nevermind we're back

:D
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>>388366726
IS
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>TOs putting floaty after floaty set on main stream
>main stream going down
THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF SHINE 2017
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>>388366562
>388366562
>>388366562

great link senpai
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these irl streams are pretty cool. gives a different perspective of these big tourneys
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>>388366825
Didnt some similar shit happened at shine 16 too?
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Why is m2k the only notable smasher that plays both sm4sh and melee competitively?
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GIMR is simply the best at what he does, by a wide margin
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twitch mach1alex19 plup v moon 1-1 rn
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>>388366825
Welcome to Gobble Immense Man Rods
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Go Spark

who am i kidding never heard of either of these chucklefucks
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>>388367183
stop advertising your stream alex
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>>388366959
see >>388363159
Smash games are only associated in name.
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>>388366959
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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>>388367331
>not watching plup moon over literal garbage
Plup is up 2-1
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Every time a good match goes unstreamed.
Every time the connection cuts out.
Every time the bitrate is shit.
Remember, PM died for this.
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I want Legend to beat Spark cause I've heard the latter is good vs ICs. Though Chu mighta beat him recently so it prob doesn't matter
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FINALLY
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christ puff is the worst fucking character to put on stream
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>>388367470
Pretty sure Shine decides the matches that go on stream
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>Leffen has to play either Moon or Plup Samus

Damn, he's boned either way isn't he
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>>388367470
Please subscribe to support VGBC bringing you the best quality smash content.
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>>388367834
I hope he has to play The Moon so we have another month and a half of him crying about how impossible the Marth Fox matchup is.
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>>388367470
is the pm scene not accountable for its own fate or something? if pm players devoted half the energy into their scene that they put into bitching about it maybe it wouldn't be dead
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>>388367739
Pretty sure there's a little bit of leniency that can go on. Spark vs. Legend was probably supposed to be westballz vs crush so IIRC it's not mattdotzeb's fault that people suck.
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Plup won 3-2
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Marth is unfair
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>>388368170
Don't you have a game to get ready for Leffen?
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>>388368170
*Samus is unfair
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>Kevin "Fucked at Seven (two months ago)" Toy
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Jesus that first game
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>m2k picks FD so I should too

why do marths do this?
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>>388368532
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holy shit that game 2
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what the fuck when mango is about to lose he goes nuts
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Chu vs spark on https://www twitch tv/shiny_zorua
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>>388368362
JESUS THAT SECOND GAME
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clutch and attrition is literally what separates that gap between top 6 and top 10
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>mango's falco has a stronger punish game than ppu's marth on fd
how embarrassing lmao
this guy has been a top player for like 5 years how has he not learned to chaingrab
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mom's spaghetti for game 2
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mang0 doing super moves and shit.....
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>>388368532
I mean, if you're playing Marth correctly you really should be picking FD. Even PPMD always CPs FD as Marth because he's not an idiot. Marth's neutral game and punish game benefit from no platforms if you play him optimally.
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>>388368828
>mango was just letting PPU build his meter for an Ultra
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I never cry about bias, but these commentators have mango's cock very far down their throat
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>>388368532
it's good for marth

every other marth is just bad at chaingrabs or not as good as m2k
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>>388369014
every commentator does
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>>388369014
That's literally every Melee commentator though.
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>>388369014
That's nothing new.
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PPU thooo
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pewpewu is playing good desu, mang0 is just playing fucking amazing
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Who won in the set with moon and plup?
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I've always thought that PPU was overrated. It seems like he's just stagnated in the past few years while all the other top players have been getting better and better.
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>>388369146
plup
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I;ve never seen anyone besides armada consistently edge-guard mang0 well
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>>388369146
Plup won 3-2 with Samus. Was pretty close for most of it and then moon got wrecked game 5
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GAME 5
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>>388369205
Already top 2 solo marth after moon and on the way to become 3rd after zain
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>>388369205
I was watching hax vs ppu at tbh3 and toph was talking about how ppu was an amazing up and comer who'd gotten super good super quickly. It's funny how he's barely improved since then.
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>>388369205
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>>388369205
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Hold the ledge mang0
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PPU isn't choking under mang0's insane pressure, like m2k does.
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>>388369328
there was a time people were unironically arguing he had surpassed m2k
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the GOAT always pulls through.
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that was some good melee outside of PPU throwing away game 2
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good set
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the way mang0 uses falco's double jump to move and apply pressure is so fucking insane
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>>388369014
>The only aggressive player left is getting praise from commentators, making their job easier by making the game more consumer friendly/streamer friendly.

REALLY MAKE-A ME TINK
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great set but might as well mute the commentary for the vod
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GOD
FUCKING
JESUS
MANGOS FALCO MAKES ME WANT TO FUCK MY COMPUTER SCREEN
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Chu 3-0 Spark
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>leffen
>best fox dittoer in the world
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>>388369487
People are always quick to devalue m2k's marth. See all the dickriders who act like pp's marth was some untouchable god killing machine when the reality is that he was never better than m2k vs spacies.
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spark vs legend knocked me out for half an hour
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here we go our taco eating, tourny forfeiting, stomach ache having, boipucci leffen is about to go at it.
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>Hype as fuck set followed by Fox dittos.
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OUR GUY VS MANG0.
I REPEAT:
OUR GUY VS MANG0
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What the fuck happened?
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>>388369932
Damn fuckin right
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>>388369829
West Coasters are really just quick to devalue m2k's skill in general. Retards like NMW still act like m2k is garbage in teams even though he's placed high with a shit ton of different people. Someone that's actually bad at teams is Hbox, who's only done decent with plup and has only done great with m2k.
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I feel about about Chu's chances to get in top 8.
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Holy shit 4chan needs to get that Mang0 cock outta there mouth he isnt even that good. I could fucking beat him plus he's a manlet.
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>leffen lucky fox dittos
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>>388370128
t. leffen from his cuckshed
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is leffens butthole waxed?

yes or no
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>>388370128
Go beat him if it's so simple.
Make some easy money.
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Should there be another board sepreate from /v/ just for esports? Like /esp/
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legend of cucky
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if odd leffen's post-twitter john will be controller
if even it will be that he's not feeling well
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>>388370251
Melee threads have been around for years ya silly newfag
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>>388370264
Sickness it is. This time he ate a burger he found in the bathroom.
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>>388370164
>>388370195
100 upboats and I'll make a Mang0 disstrack and challenge him (which he will deny because he is an ultrapussy) to a 10k money match which if he loses that can never play melee ever again.
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is my guy ESAM still in sm4sh?
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>>388370251
no matter how many containment boards you make /v/ will always be full of shit
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>have to watch this on my phone because reasons
>every fucking time i open the stream i have to watch a 30 second ad
How can i fucking avoid this shit
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>>388370351
What? What in my post validated a response like that? Wrestling threads had been on /sp/ for years but it still got moved to /asp/ same goes for pokemon and video game generals from /v/
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wtf jontron uploaded a new video today
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>>388370415
updoot
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>>388370570
I didnt know that but I dont see why it would change now, EVO 2016 Melee even got a fuckin sticky on /v/.
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>>388370415
fine faggot, (You)
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>plup is going all samus
fuuuuck. his samus is sick but I want him to win
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Will Chu even take a game vs Mango? I just have no faith in Chu even though I really want to
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>>388370415
(You)
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that was fun too. 3-0, but it wasn't a quick evisceration like leffen does to sfat.
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>chu vs mango
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>Chu v. Mango
How bad with the nation take this loss?
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>>388371065
Chillin, im already a demon
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>>388371061
Yeah, it was mostly just some slop on lucky's part as opposed to leffen just completely shutting down sfat
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>>388371092
there will be some reinvigorated discussion about banning wobbling but that's about it
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I cut my leg on my desk and went to look at it and my ass smelled like green shit. Anybody got this feel?
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>trif vs kk has lasted for 29 minutes
If Trif doesn't lose a close game 5 I will cut off my balls
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Why weren't they attacking each other then why did they LrAstart?
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>>388371434
Hand warmer
Basically a warm up
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DUDE CHU LMAO!!! LE SILLY REBBIT FACE!!! LE WOBBLING XD
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>>388371525
shouldn't you be focused on the match mango
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>>388371589
mango is too retarded to shitpost like I do
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wait, Ice didn't even get top 96?
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>>388371630
mango is too pure to shitpost beyond level 1 irony
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Why is corrin considered high tier again? I literally never see her played.
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>>388371765
see for yourself
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mang0 is such an asshole. he'll go for the disrespect even when chu has always been nice to him and even said he was one of his favorite players
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>>388371673
Click on the L1 thing on the bracket homie. You're only seeing half of it
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>>388371673
Next group. He's in winners vs Swedish
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>>388371673
he's on the other half idiot
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let us go chu
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chu is gonna lose last stock game 5 and all of you faggots will eat my ass
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>>388371782
CLOUDED
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>>388371805
That
That's literally the reason why Chu likes Mang0
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this is a murder
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how assmad you have to be to chase someone with falco side b lmao
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>>388371805
I think it's fair seeing as Chu YEAYUHZ'd him after his soul was destroyed.
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>>388371765
MKLeo's Corrin has beaten some top tier Bayo players. Don't know much beyond that.
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Why is chu so bad?

Bottom 3 in America at least
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chucucks are on suicide watch lmfao
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Hm. I think my bracket updated incorrectly. It says Mango over Chudat. That doesn't make sense?
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MANG0 IS M0VING
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ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR BROS
HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE MANGO SLAYER
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!!
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>>388372514
I noticed that. He just couldn't wait to whip his ass some more. lol
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As a mang0 fan, my dick is rock hard right now . Hope the GOAT wins another one and puts pressure on the cuck from swedeland
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Chufats claim to fame is gone, crewdat in shambles
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>JV4
I'm no mango dickrider, but goddamn that was savage
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Why has he been so shit since signing with Liquid? Are they paying him to throw?
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I hope leffen gets his ass spanked and cries on twitter.
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Plup vs Leffen who ya got
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fuck mang0 and his downs ass kid
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>>388372739
Plup of course
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oh shit, brazilian waxed leffen is about to go on.
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>>388372739
leffen, plup is reddit incarnate
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>Plup vs Leffen
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>>388372732
no motivation anymroe since he's living comfortably
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>>388372739
>Plup's Samus
Get the coffin ready to be sent back to sweden
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HOLY SHIEETTT MCGREGOR JUST DID IT
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>>388372739
Leffen. I don't think Plup's Samus can do it anymore
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>>388372739
i do not like leffen
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>>388372845
guess the leff post-twitter johns
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>>388372848
it didn't even start yet cuck
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>>388372739
plup probably. i say 65-35 plup favor
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Chu has to play winner of Moon/West vs Lucky/N0ne

Moon would be rough for him, but he could actually beat the other 3
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>plup feasibly making it to winners side of grands with fucking samus
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It's ogre boys our guy is taking this set an set.
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>>388372972
He's gonna bitch that he slept too much and hasn't been motivated enough recently.
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how can you not like this guy?

only faggots don't root for our guy
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plupW leffen's anus is now property of the plup club plupW
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I wish I could like Mango, but goddamn is he insufferable when he is playing well. Just like Leffen, when they win they talk so much shit. And even worse all are the fans. People fucking CRY when mango wins a tourney, and people treat him like a messiah. I like his falco, and he seems ok most of the time. But too often I find myself rooting for him to lose just to watch the collective butthurt.
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>>388372972
>jetlag/sleep
>controller
>'fox isnt that gud'
Pick your poison
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Westballz 3-2 JizzKidBoogie

BIRD UP
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Trif beat KK
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>>388373583
>It's like 6-4 but people say I can't complain because I play fox.
>>
Why the fuck are people still watching this stagnant game? One of the same five people is going to win. Big fucking deal.
>>
JUST
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why don't you go fox you fucking nerd? leffen would 12-stock your ass

instead you retreat to the character that he gets no practice in his region and is completely reliant on ridiculous gimmicks and lives forever
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>>388373739
Good gameplay
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>>388373820
Don't you have a match to be playing Leffen?
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>>388373739
I'll have you know we have 6 whole contenders now.
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>>388373820
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>>388373739
It's ___________________________________________________________fun
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>>388373739
Good memes.
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>>388373904
>leffen
>winning another major
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>>388373739
the viewership that matters is here for the gameplay, whoever wins is just the cherry on top. the game isn't alive after 15 years because of e-celeb bullshit but because of gameplay
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jfc plup take a page from hbox and just float to the edge if you have to

stop landing with aerials
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plupW leffen's anus is now property of the plup club plupW
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t. minus 2 minutes until twitter johns.
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WHO SAID YOU WERE A GOD

I KNOW IT WASN"T PLUP
>>
I KNOW IT WASN'T PLUP
>>
BASED PLUP
GUARANTEED 5TH PLACE WITH A CHARACTER HE DROPPED
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lelffen
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>THE STATE OF LEFFKEKS

EVEN WHEN LIMITED
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*breathes in*
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>losing to Plup's tertiary
J U S T
U
S
T
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thank god
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>leffen
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>leffen
>Sweden
>whites
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT WAS SO FUCKING CLOSE
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C H A R G E S H O T
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FIRE TWEET BOUTA DROP FROM LEFF
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back to the cuckshed filthy swede
>>
i was rooting for leffen, still that was perfect ending
>>
Fox-Samus is 4-6. It's okay that Fox loses some matchups.
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>>388374364
but plup is the white one?
>>
Is Samus that good or is Plup just good enough to overcome her weaknesses?
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the absolute state of leffen
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>plup has as much of a chance of winning as anyone else
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>plup drops leffen

DAYUM SON WHERE'D YOU FIND THIS
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This is now a dance thread
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Lucky 3-2 N0ne
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IT'S HAPPENING
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>>388374004
He means plup
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FOR A MAN OF MANY WORDS
I THINK YOU'VE SAID ENOUGH
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Fox loses to samus and it's ok.
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leffen doesn't even have to damage control with fans like these
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GOTTA SAY BRO YOU'RE LOOKING AWFULLY WEAK
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I am literally SHAKING. I have for the last 16 months used my allowance + the money from my paper route AND from mowing the lawn of the neighbors to donate to Leffen and now it turns out he isn't beating Plup. I thought he couldn't lose to Plup ever again. I am so furious i just threw the freshly made tendies after my mom when she came in with them to calm me down.
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>>388374561
Sick of all these Irish melee players
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>>388374561
It's true tho, Samus is fox's worst matchup other than Marth desu
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>>388374683
WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS IN THE...uh...nvm.
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>>388374848
AHAHAHAHAHA BTFO SWEDEKEK LUL USA WINS AGAIN YUROPOOR!!!
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>>388374561
That happens for every top player though.
The damage control of Mango's fanbase whenever he loses is legendary.
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>H-he learned how to beat Samus!!!
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>>388374561
he's not wrong fox to samus match up is -10 to googol, similar to fox marth
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>>388374884
>fox doesn't beat marth
>fox doesn't beat samus
>fox doesn't beat icies
>fox doesn't beat peach
>fox doesn't beat sheik
Why don't you cucks just switch fucking characters if you think fox is so bad.
>>
i love playing jetpack joyride
>>
how many matches are left?
>>
>>388375048
next video: "fox is not top 4 (and that's okay)"
>>
is it me or has the audio turnd to shit?
>>
Fox loses to samus, the fact that it went to last stock game 5 is a victory for Leffen
>>
wtf how is chillin making himself look so buff he is a mega fatty now
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>>388375048
Fox only has 3 losing matchups, but even in matchups that fox wins he has to work way harder form a technical standpoint. Nothing wrong with complaining when some characters get auto-combos and can gimmick their way to easier victories.
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>that faggot norwalk asshole screaming in the back

SHUT THE FUCK UP

>>388375283
dude's thick af
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>>388375254
Don't defend yourself here eleffen we see through your faggy deception
inb4 "my b"
>>
>loses to falco
>loses to marth
>goes even with sheik
>loses to peach
>goes even with puff
>loses to samus
>loses to icies
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>>388375335
>Fox only has 3 losing matchups
which would be?
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Damn west fucked up The Moon.
>>
>>388375407
Samus, Marth, and Falco desu.
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>>388375396
>someone might actually think this
>>
chillin is fucking hammered
>>
>>388375429
>and Falco
I remember Leffen actually saying that in Mang0's pre summit stream. And it made me mad.
>>
>Phantom into lolm2k
>>
>>388375335
>he has to work way harder form a technical standpoint
this is fucking irrelevant to matchup discussion
you should be near 100% consistent with any tech skill before you use it in tournament
>>
westballz got a guardian angel on his shoulder this tourney
>>
>>388375501
actually maybe not in NTSC but in PAL falco wins pretty handily
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhsOW-_TwfU
Was this the best taunt to get bodied ever recorded?
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>>388375335
>he has to work way harder form a technical standpoint
Armada has counter argued this point by saying that you have to outplay an onpoint fox by a HUGE margin, when you're playing a lower tier char.

And leffen's techskill wasn't THAT sloppy, and plup was barely scraping by with his wins.
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>>388375429
I 100% guarantee you would say fox loses the fox ditto if it made any rational sense.
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>>388375610
>he made another
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B05DVqBUTBs
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>>388375697
but muh port priority
>>
>>388375704
There's like 4
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>>388375610
I would say there's no taunt-to-get bodied moment recorded in the entire FGC like that one.
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this guy is slurring like a drunk homeless drunk, quality commentary. no nepotism at all lmao
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Chillin high as balls. Fuck this unprofessional stoner faggot
>>
>>388375798
LTG viscant comes close
>>
GUESS YOU CAN'T TEACH AN OLD DOG NEW TRICKS
WHO HASN'T WHOPPEDU HUGS86?
>>
>>388375610
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHkdfepC0Lk
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>>388375817
he gets plastered on his stream all the time
>>
>>388375610
>I know it wasn't plup
When will this not be relevant?
>>
lucky played like shit.
>>
Chillin needs to cut
>>
who even likes chillin commentary? this guy is always such a boring bitch my god get anyone else
>>
damn who do i root for .
>>
Ice - Swedish 3-1
>>
>>388376189
>implying he still lifts
>>
>>388375704
that shit's so painful to watch my goodness.
>>
They should've put another match on stream. West's hands are gonna get tired.
>>
>>388376331
Thank fuck that boring lame ass cunt lost
>>
is mew2king still in? i haven't seen him play
>>
>Check in on the other pool to see what sets we'll get to see
>entirety of R1 winners already played through

thanks for the single fucking stream guys
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>>388376578
hes on the other side. there's a bunch of other matches coming up in the next block
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>ice meets a random falco next round
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>>388375335
Fox has no losing matchups, you're retarded.
>>
>>388376651
jesus fuck. i though they were wrapping this up soon. unless, they are running a lot of matches off stream right now
>>
i know shine in frame 1 but wes would benefit so much more in situations if he just opted to jab instead
>>
Why is neither West nor Chu using their normal colors?
>>
>>388376578
According to the bracket he beat smashgod off stream and plays shroomed next, and then the winner of rocky/ice for top 8. Pretty free bracket for him.
>>
>>388376703
But Leffen said!
>>
If wobbling wasn't a thing, Westballz would have taken that set ez
>>
pretty sure ice would rather play sfat than rocky lol
>>
>>388376750
well its scheduled to go to 11pm, prob gonna finish a little later cuz they always stream all the top 8 qualifiers
>>
>>388376828
If Westballz wasn't born, he wouldn't be playing Chu Dat
>>
Someone who plays melee and watches it a lot, why isn't wobbling banned? Isn't it an infinite that leads into a kill?
>>
fuck wobbling. juggle guy was right all along.
>>
>>388376828
If Falco wasn't a thing, Westballz wouldn't be able to beat Chu
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>>388377005
(You)
>>
>>388377005
ice climbers have never won a super major
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>>388377005
It's hard to pull off consistently and to use it effectively
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>>388377005
it is in fact an infinite
wobbling in tournament is harder than people think
there's not actually that many top IC players
melee players tend to hate playing neutral
>>
>two games on fd
sets over, westballz should forfeit so we can walk a more competitive player matchup
>>
>>388377005
The pro-wobbling argument is that ICs are so bad and you should never get grabbed in the first place so it's okay.
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>>388377005
it takes a lot of skill to pull off, so it is allowed
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>>388377005
It only takes one of four stocks
An exact rule that bans wobbling exclusively is really hard to define
Icies are an uncommon character
Icies are only barely a good character with legal wobbling
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>>388377139
>>388377146
What are you talking about? It's not hard at all, and almost every other tournament some literal who comes in and gets top 32 by wobbling.
>>
>>388377298
Ok.
>>
>chu didn't wavedash oos grab getup attack
Lazy nigger. If that was Armada it would've been a stock.
>>
>>388377298
Do you main ICs? No? I thought so
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>>388377240
>An exact rule that bans wobbling exclusively is really hard to define
there's no ambiguity here, it's an infinite that has a line that can be easily drawn in the sand on. ICs also have the freeze block glitch and that's rightfully banned.
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>>388377382
It's one of the easiest things in the game, retard. Suck on my cock with your mouth.
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>>388377298
you're talking to people who have never entered a local thinking fixed bpm inputs are hard. the only difficulty is knowing when/if nana is synced
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>>388377382
>>388377357
my friend who can't fucking dash dance can wobble fairly consistently

>>388377391
Okay, how many pummels can an Icie do before it's wobbling? How about blizzobling? How much blizzard can be used when someone is held? What happens when an Icie accidently presses pummel while holding someone? Do handoffs count as wobbling? How many handoffs can be done?
>>
Y E A Y U Z
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>>388377561
But is he good?

The answer is no.
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>>388377497
You seem to know a lot about wobbling, how the fuck didn't you know it's an infinite?

Literally the only reason wobbling isn't banned it's because Icies are fucking shit. Which I disagree like most people.
>>
And to think i hated Chu before this. Fuck turbo-atuist memer
>>
Happy Chu finally made top 8 today.
>>
You gotta respect it!
>You gotta respect it!
You gotta respect it!
>You gotta respect it!

Stop telling me what to do.
>>
>>388376368
I'm seeing some serious mass underneath those fat sausage arms
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>>388377635
why are you so mad that west lost
>>
>>388377635
>how the fuck didn't you know it's an infinite?
When did I say it wasn't an infinite you fat spic?
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>>388377727
I'm glad West lost. Thank god Chu ended his shitty loser's run, fucking retarded shitty overrated Falco.
>>
>milktea
WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAAAAAACE
>>
Why are none of m2ks matches on stream?
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>>388377815
>When did I say it wasn't an infinite you fat spic?
I'm assuming you're the OP of this post you fat dumb nigger:>>388377005

Do you know what sarcasm is? Do you actually think I answered honestly a question that gets asked 1000000 times by retards that don't play the game?
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>>388377916
because he has a free ride to top 8 .
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>>388377916
Autism kills.
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>>388377939
Thats not me, I was just wondering about the legality of wobbling.
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>>388377561
>Okay, how many pummels can an Icie do before it's wobbling?
as many as long as they aren't Nana f-tilt or d-tilt inputs for a wobble
>How about blizzobling? How much blizzard can be used when someone is held?
as many as long as they aren't Nana f-tilt or d-tilt inputs for a wobble
>What happens when an Icie accidently presses pummel while holding someone?
What happens if someone accidentally chaingrabs in a Sheik ditto where both players agree not to and intended not to? Live and let live as long as it's not a tilt input.
>Do handoffs count as wobbling? How many handoffs can be done?
Handoffs are not wobbling. Fly Amanita has done handoffs in Jugglerob sponsored tournaments where he had banned wobbling.
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DJ is retarded
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>>388377916
Cause he had a later timeslot
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>>388378057
Shut up, Leffen
>>
Man this no-name Marth Leffen is fighting sucks.
>>
Why won't leffen even play a lvl 9 cpu? Why is it lvl 1? Is he afraid of being embarrased?
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who is leffen up against?

>>388377854
she has the unfortunate circumstance of being a masculine female in an age of trannies being more uncommon
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>>388378282
90:10 match-up
LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
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>>388378271
>Not knowing who chair is
How fucking new are you?
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>>388378298
Himself
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>>388377939
Oh ok, you were just pretending to be retarded
>>
If leffen loses this match I've got $300 riding on him bitching about waiting on twitter within 2 minutes of the match ending.
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>>388378282
If he fucks up his tech skill it'll destroy his confidence which is already low in this mu.
>>
What is going on? Why is Leffen fighting a CPU? Who is he supposed to be going against? Why is that person not there yet?
>>
SFAT > Swedish 3-2
>>
i don't understand this game. why doesn't the bigger person just eat the smaller person?
>>
>>388378478
Pewpewu and Trif haven't finished their set yet.
>>
What the fuck is gods and gatekeepers? is there an actual singles bracket?
>>
>>388378412
worse odds than mayweather-mcgregor
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>>388378410
No, wobbling takes skill. I wasn't being sarcastic.
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He's a big guy
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s2j 0-1 Hbox
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Why not at least entertain the crowd by playing adventure mod or something?
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>>388378558
Redbull sponsored event by 2GG. There's a single's bracket upto top 32, where then it takes a weird Crew-format
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>>388378558
yes but only up until top 32, then 16 of those players get picked for the totally-not-crew battles and the other 16 play a bracket that means literally nothing
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>>388378648
It's not my job to entertain you
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new
>>388378732
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>>388378621
4 chu
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>>388378742
*his
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>>388378608
nah
the setups for wobbling take skill but the actual technique can be learned by fgc guys within 10 minutes (as proven by the hyperx stuff)
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>>388378904
I was pretending to be retarded! I was being tongue in cheek!

Like my original post, you fucking retard
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>>388378904
yet somehow fly amanita was never able to learn how to wobble after playing the character for years
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>>388373820
>Fox mains complaining like a bitch about not having all the cards in their hand for once.

Shut up faggot.
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>>388378621
Dr. Peepee, I'm not lawful.
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