An excellent choice, sir. That'll be $3000.

and you can fly it sometime in the 2020s

>>388355325
I missed the Gamescom presentation but comments seem to suggest that it was a failure, even from actual fans. Can anyone bring me up to speed?

>>388355325
which big-time kickstarter flub will come out first? hiveswap or star citizen? place your bets

>>388355492
The stuff they showed was cool.
They played the game live rather than showing pre-recorded footage and the people playing were doing cheesy roleplaying shit.
And there were some bugs.

how much is 3000 starcitizen bucks in actual real money?

I'll have your finest ship, stuffed with your second finest!

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>yfw Cyberpunk 2077 releases before this game even goes into beta

>>388355325

In game dollars?

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>>388356207
>>388356510

No you don't understand
ITS REAL MONEY

>>388355492
>game crashed twice in under an hour
>Buggs galore
>5fps
>unless facerig noone asked for

>>388356102

Lol imagine being this fucking guy

>>388356207
that ship is 6 months worth of farming low level contracts

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>>388355492
bugs, desync, crashes and a general lack of content.
It looked like a demo a good dev team would have put out in a year of work.

reminder that there are fathers of multiple children who have dropped thousands of dollars on e-spaceships

>>388356401

At least Cyberpunk didn't scam autists for half a decade straight

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>owning a fucking polaris and watching the trainwreck that was gamescom yesterday come to its apex

indefensible. great [worry]

>>388355325
>>388356686
if the ships weren't made of every single polygon maybe it would've ran smoother

>>388355325
>>388355416
what is this a fucking new car down payment

>90% of the core game features unimplemented
>they are now wasting time developing a lip sync webcam feature
>oh and you have to buy a proprietary webcam to use it, that will be another $50 shekels please

>>388356401
I think their biggest threat is BEYOND GOOD & EVIL 2.
It's aiming at the same retard audience (lul procedural planet, wow so biiiiig, huuuuuge open world), but it will be released before sc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjrzemJvUCU

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>>388357242
>game presentation
>autistic middle aged european man commentating in his indecipherable obscure european accent

Assuming it isn't actually a scam like everyone seems to think, the biggest problem with SC's development is that they have no focus. Instead of fixing the shit that needs to be fixed, they just keep adding pointless features like the face tracking.

>>388356949
Ship size shouldn't be an issue, mechanical stuff is usually cheap in polygons as you can replace a lot of details with normal maps.

>>388357394
its a scam tho i smell it 4 years ago and sold my hornet pack asap

>>388356102

>played the game live

Lel it was on rails and scripted.

Star Citizen is never coming out.

>>388357394
To be fair they have a ridiculous amount of money, and adding a team to work on other things like that isnt going to be effecting the core game development. They already have the team they need on the main game and throwing more bodies at it does nothing. They problem with SC is that they got way over their heads with all the new technologies they have to implement. The game engine had to essentially be rebuilt. All this meant they couldnt just hire any code monkeys either.

>>388355325
but don't worry, the game isn't pay to win ;^)

>>388355492
Probably the worst "gamer" acting to date. I'm assuming the players fucked a bunch of things up because the speaker kept giving them stern queues. Facial recognition through webcam is previewed and looks laughably bad even without the garbage acting. Really great reaction images from those. Smooth sailing for a little while as players leave orbit. Crash happens and halts progress for like 10 minutes with the lead speaker going red in the face and aggressively issuing orders to try and salvage the presentation. Restart happens and the players have to start from the very beginning of the demo. This time however during a conversation with an npc, the camera keeps switching to the player character making some goofball clown face with aforementioned facerig for whatever reason. I can't even begin to explain how funny this was. Pure comedy. More crappy bugs pop up here and there and for some reason the improv gamer dialogue continues even though theyre just trying to get back to the point before the crash. Finally get back into space, no crashes this time. Space ship stutters like its on a rail line because I guess they haven't coded any sort of inertia. Players reach a crashed ship. Audio levels are all over the place and the banter persists. Gamer girl somehow gets fucking lost inside the crashed ship. Both players then eventually leave the crash site and are met with pirates I'm assuming. Space ships shoot at our main characters as they eventually start fighting back and call for back up. Back up arrives featuring the first new mega ship in the game. Mega ship takes about 5 minutes at about 5 inches per second to land and pick up our main characters. Main characters attempt to board the ship with their car via ramp when the car fails and falls through the ramp. "Third times the charm" is said as the car then literally explodes at the bottom of the ramp. Player that wasn't killed in the car then goes up to the bridge alone and says, "Thanks for saving us."

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hey guys
purchase my ship here, it's like OP's but cheaper and better: 56k vs 935k
$100 for the next five hours starting NOW
huge deal if you ask me

>>388357394

It's a scam precisely because theyre adding useless features. It creates the illusion of development and placate the donating cultists. I think Roberts and his closest circle realize full well, that what he promised to all these autists is impossible to implement in a persistent universe.

The proprietary cameras are a song they're giving it one last squeeze before they wrap this charade up. They'll release a touching "omg thanks for ur support u are the best fans ever :3" bullshit PR statement and then declare insolvency.

>>388358518
That sounds hilarious, might just watch the whole stream then

>>388356835
And people actually think that this will work with thousands of other players in a massive seamless universe. What a joke. This won't be anywhere near release within a century.

Hopefully they make enough money to offer cryogenic hibernation pods to all customers.

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>>388356835
I haven't laughed as hard as I did at that demonstration in a long time. It was a great time. The speedrunning, the horrible facial mocap that looks like jaws just wiggling around (IN 60 FPS!) Everything about the buggy was great. How the ships would just slam into the surface and practically crash when they did. It got to the point that when the idris landed at the end, they made sure to turn the camera away in case it crash landed.

And of course, throughout the entire demo, whenever they were driving into new territory, they'd have the camera they were showing facing away to hide texture pop-in while the other person playing looked forward to give the all clear when they could face forward again.

It was perfect.

>>388359054
>Hopefully they make enough money to offer virtual cryogenic hibernation pods to all customers.

ftfy

>>388358518
i'm watching it right now oh my g o d

By the time this game comes out, it'll be a historical documentary.

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>>388358845
>when they just bounce off and one explodes
All that talk about the physics engine. It really did have that shit in the super pre alpha a few years ago, but the presentation made it look like theyve scrapped all the physics.

>>388359298
Well, they did already add showering and food mechanics
NMS is unironcally the best space game on the market right now with all the updates

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>>388359740
i think elite beats it out in quality of flight model and tone/atmosphere of the game but either one is trouncing star citizen at this moment

that NMS is styling on chris right now makes me kek to high heaven

>>388359646
this png is the average fps you get when playing star citizen

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>>388360078

I have a fully engineered corvette and I'm rich as hell just waiting for some fucking content.

Are we still dealing with SUPER SECRET THARGOIDS!!!! bullshit?

>$140 millions

This is why PC community is a cancer. Holy christ no wonder why people are buying skins and valve dropped hl3 for a card game.

>>388360309
How long did you fucking grind?

Last I tried was smuggling missions from some ass-end-of-nowhere system back to known space and while it was profitable, the grind was still retarded.

>>388360492
It's 157 million right now

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>>388360309
are you 10B rich? why not have one of every hull prepared for combat usage if it's even viable, with each having its own mods?

implementation of 'goids is looking to be dogshit btw

Wait so it's REAL money? Why would someone pay that much for a virtual item...? This is insane. I'm guessing you guys are used to this because to me this seems so bizarre. What the fuck?

>>388360691
>>388360309
i'm only gonna get elite dangerous when frontier decide to tone down the grind and when i can play it with VR on a system that will run it

>>388360078
You do have to hand it to Sean for actually staying around to fix his game instead of pulling a Phil Fish.
Also, how is E:D for PS4? Didn't bring my desktop to school with me this year.

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>>388355416
HAHA
yea, if it makes it.

>>388355325

Nice try Han Solo, but you can't hide your ship from me in plain sight. I don't pay for stowaways.

>>388360691
Because fuck grinding for mods.

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>>388360612

The ship itself didn't take long, but that was when 17 Draconis mission stacking was in so credits were easy.

Engineering was worse. I went hard for about two/three weeks to get all the components/engineering done. There's a fuckton of problems with that system, and I'll never do it again.

>>388360691

I think like 2-3 Billion. I didn't have it in me to do that much Draconis.

>>388360703
They started out reasonable, $40-$70 for the ships and some other in game doodads, the money also covered your preorder for the game and let you start with a bunch of in game currency.

Then it just kept dragging and the ships kept getting bigger and the pricetags have reached used car levels for some of the bigger ones.

>>388360703
There's a guy who has spent 30k american dollars on SC to buy ships that are not playable yet and never will

>>388360703
>I'm guessing you guys are used to this

Nope. There hasn't been such a financial disproportion since Action 52. We're in as much disbelief as you are.
And we've been in this disbelief for 5 fucking years. Derek Smart was right.

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vette a cute

>>388360703
> I'm guessing you guys are used to this because to me this seems so bizarre

When i was playing BFBC2 i couldn't believe that people bought skins. I thought it was a joke.
Turns out that its the biggest income for valve now.

>>388356850
Let's be honest, those kids aren't actually theirs.

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anaconda is the best hull though. its damage output cannot be beat and it can still maneuver like a corvette with nice enough drives

Elite Dangerous is taking a long ass time too. I thought they would have living creatures and plants by now on earthlike planets.

>>388358518

thanks for saving us

>>388361392

They're too busy taking every bit of profit from ED to make other games

Rollercoaster Tycoon and the new Jurassic Park

It's not being reinvested into ED

I might check up on E:D again. Got bored of the grind and the no content.

How long would it take to grind for a fully outfitted (non-engineered) high-end ship, say the anaconda?

And what's the current best method for easy credits.

>>388361392
lol just play no mans sky

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>>388357387
Fuck you amerifat man, ur just jealous that women love our french accent. it's cute.

>>388358565
Give me a way to contact you. That ship looks sick. You got anything else?

>>388357394
>Instead of fixing the shit that needs to be fixed, they just keep adding pointless features like the face tracking.
Seriously, what the fucking hell. I haven't backed this game yet and even i'm getting angry. Honestly, who wants this crap? they're seriously wasting development time on shit like this? This came would have at least been int he beta phase if they had more focus and decided to just finish the base game then add stuff on top of that instead of just coming up with more useless shit to put int he game.

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What is it about current space games that results in such failure?
>Star Citizen is a cautionary tale in feature creep
>Elite Dangerous is a snoozefest
>No Man's Sky is getting better, but it's still riddled with bugs
>X4 might be good, but it's looking like Rebirth 2 at this point

I just want to float through space in my Aurora, laying in bed staring at the star

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>>388361853
>No Man's Sky saves gaming

>>388356835
Is it this vid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTALpprdtQ4

I'm already at the facial recognition trainwreck part and it is pretty hilarious how hard they are trying to hide how the game is held together with foil and duck tape.

>>388361926
And then some dude finds you and you hear footseps in your ship.

D E R E K

S M A R T

W A S

R I G H T .

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>all the NMS shilling of late
is this some kind of meme?

>>388361627
>Admitting you're French.
lol Even Brazilians and Russians know better than to admit what they are subhumans.

>>388362161
Nah, it got a huge update a couple of weeks ago

>>388362212
Russians seem pretty proud about being subhuman

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>>388362049
It's a weird feeling.

>>388362402
the game still looks shallow as all hell though

>>388362161
everyone has the game, it's very popular and everyone likes it. I don't know why, but I bet you're the only one here that doesn't have a copy. You should get yourself a copy of NMS and enjoy the update. It's a very fun game and you're missing out.

>>388362212
Amerifat likes you are as subhuman as they are.

>>388362136
With all the bullshit theyre adding my pointless surround sound headphones will actually give me precise locations.

>>388361842

It's part of the scam. They keep adding to the feature bloat to increase development time and budgetary needs to keep people giving them money.

>>388356686
That real time facial pattern recognition perfectly encapsulates everything wrong with Chris Roberts direction. It's pointless. Utterly pointless if they had a fully functional foundation of a game it'd be a nice feature but no the game is a buggy unfinished mess and here's this feature to distract you morons who gave money to this game. And they clapped and cheered for it like the suckers they are.

Assuming the game ever gets "completed", can you acquire every ship in game without paying extra for them?

>>388362970
kind of alarming that something like that is in the game before any kind of economy system. this is supposed to be like freelancer right?

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>>388362794
with their feature creep history they will probably end up adding some kind of middle-ware propietary neural-link interface so you won't even need a VR headset or any fancy headphones
just drop by any CIG-certified neurosurgery clinic across the globe and buy a CIG-compliant jack-in interface and you're good to go

>>388362567

It got substantialy better than it was after release.
It's still like have fucking 1/3 of the content and features that were promised but at least NMS dev team are trying and there's some progres.
i'm still not fucking buying it for current price

>>388363227

>adding some kind of middle-ware proprietary neural-link interface so you won't even need a VR headset or any fancy headphones

And even then the game will still be a buggy, janky mess running at 15fps tops.

>>388361853
I dunno anon. I feel as if Egosoft were still capable of making a good game they wouldn't have made rebirth. I mean, maybe they still have their talent in the company and leaders to employ that talent well but it's a long shot.

>>388363506
>game
I didn't say anything about a "game"

>>388362137
I miss when the internet was fun and you would have started the incantation to summon him just now.

>>388363227
>eve becomes real with sockets implanted into your skull to interface with computers
>it's used for a spaceship vidya instead of actually flying spaceships
I mean, I'd do it but...

>>388357394
If only it was a scam. Then it would have a consistent goal.

This is just playing out like some five year old describing the perfect video game.

>IT HAS TO HAVE SPACESHIPS AND YOU CAN GO TO INFINITE PLANETS AND ITS ALSO A SHOOTER LIKE CALL OF DUTY AND YOU CAN STEAL OTHER PEOPLES SHIPS LIKE GTA AND YOU CAN GET HUGE SHIPS LIKE STAR WARS AND YOU CAN SEE YOURSELF WHEN FLYING THE SHIP FOR SOME REASON AND THERES SINGLE PLAYER TOO WITH LUKE SKYWALKER AND THE GUY FROM GAME OF THRONES

>>388363052
they say it will be 'possible' in that some of the things are dedicated warships meant to be crewed by dozens of AI so you would have to find one that nobody else has salvaged, fix it and get a crew of your best buds together to fly it.

>>388363062
You mean Chris Roberts other directionless misguided space game that failed? Yes it is.

Chris Roberts is taking his life into his own hands, at least one backer is going to come for him when it all goes belly up.

>>388363231
Just pirate it.

>>388363920
lmao.

>>388364390
yeah but then i couldnt play multiplayer

>>388356401
Half-Life 3 will be released before this.

>>388364859
It's meant to be a SP game. Also there's a fucking GOG installer, so you have no reason to at least try.
Still ain't worth 60 dollardoos, but it's getting there

>>388364184
yeah, hes gonna have to find a way to be able to afford a really expensive security system some how, fast

>>388366157
I love how he was sweating like a pig during gamescom

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>>388365960

>>388356850
like who? And is this supposed to justify how wasteful and stupid it is?

>>388361853
it's because they are not real

>>388358518
>Gamer girl somehow gets fucking lost inside the crashed ship.

Oh I didn't notice that.

>Main characters attempt to board the ship with their car via ramp when the car fails and falls through the ramp. "Third times the charm" is said as the car then literally explodes at the bottom of the ramp. Player that wasn't killed in the car then goes up to the bridge alone and says, "Thanks for saving us."

Would anyone give a shit if they just had it so that when you're close enough it just pops your ship inside? In a previous showcase, the guy couldn't get back into the ship because of the terrain, so the pilot had to take off and land on a flatter surface. Like, just pop your guys in when you're close enough.

> Player that wasn't killed in the car then goes up to the bridge alone and says, "Thanks for saving us."

hahah. Does death have any meaning in this? Why wouldn't they make players immortal for the demo? It's just to show off not really play.

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>>388355325
>YFW you resisted the urge to buy in.

>>388367406
I mean... It's not anything special, doing that. You just wait for the game to come out and buy it if it turns out to be good. It's common sense, not willpower.

>>388358518
Jesus christ.

>>388363062
To be fair Freelancer also didn't have an economy system.

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>They pass a boulder
>1 full second pass
>Girl gamer: "Watch out for that boulder!"

haha.

I didn't take a screenshot so here's a panicked Chris Roberts.

>>388358518
Sometimes I wonder, when I see these things like the division reveal and that bioware game and then this, who they're trying sell this 'gamer talk' to with how ridiculous these people sound. Then I think that maybe normalfags do this all the time when they're playing games with each other and I'm actually just an assholes with shitty friends.

>>388367406
can't relate,, 70$ down the drain

>>388358518
top kek

>>388369073
nah it's not just you. normal humans don't talk like this. it feels like the people who write these demos get their cues for how people act from quippy joss whedon movies

>>388369141
hey, hold onto it. if the game ACTUALLY comes out and is ACTUALLY remotely good, you MIGHT be able to sell that license/key/item for something.

not likely, but hey, just sayin. on the flip side, it could be a neat coffee table talking piece. ive been so tempted to buy some obvious failures just to kinda, have them. like, i want an ouya in my living room just so that eventually, someone goes "is that a fucking ouya?"

>>388369141
At least in the end they'll package something up and sell it. I doubt it'll be anything like you thought it might be but it'll be something.

I put a hundo on Shroud of the Avatar.

>>388369330
That actually does seem to be where they take their inspiration from.

Assuming the game does come out, who the fuck would buy it ? Anyone even remotely interested has already preordered it.

>>388370114
The people who already haven't bought it. You shouldn't ask any semi serious questions in these threads. You're not allowed to discuss this game on /v/. No Man's Sky gets less shitposting than Star Citizen.

This whole presentation man. It was fucking hilarious, like how in the fuck you think it's ok to show something so bad? How much testing did they do before presenting this? That part where the rover tries to ge in that second ships was so hilariously bad.

i unironically think E:D shits on SC visually, their aesthetics are much better than star citizens. star citizen looks like a visual mess ingame

>>388361329
Star citizen or ED? I'm about this ship design.

>>388360691
lol it's going to be some shitty conflict zone instance where you prob have to kill 100 for just 20mil

>>388370378
seems like something goes wrong every presentation. you'd think they'd have learned their lesson and prerecorded this one

>Walking down corridors
>Watching door opening porn
>Waiting in elevators
>Flying over empty landscapes
Where is the game?

>>388370114
Those who were cautious?
>tfw you will never join a group of poorfags making do with whatever they can find and scrounge, bonding and forging a friendship over their mutual hardship, learning to cooperate to survive, going from system to system, chasing whatever incidental bounty or opportunity to trade and splitting the profits among each other.
>you will never decide to move higher on the food chain and enact a enormous plan to assault, board and steal one of those supercarriers
>you will never be there when the whole group bring their ships to storm the supercarrier, flying, juking and shooting to create the opportunity you need
>you will never be in the cargo hold of one of the ships, awaiting for the moment a breach is made in the hull so you can jump and fling yourself into the breach screaming and firing wildly at 100 miles per hour
>you will never fight tooth, nail and blood through the corridors to reach the bridge
>you will never hold the line as the crew tries to retake the ship as one of your buddies furiously input the coordinates of a hyperspace jump to the rendezvous point
>you will never jump to the rendezvous point and drive through a asteroid field, enemy ships hot on your tail wanting to retake the ship
>you will never ambush the enemy in the asteroid field as they fall into the trap, mines and weapon fire tearing through the enemy ranks
>you will never experience that moment of relief as the last one of them disappear from your radar, followed by the screams of joy as you finally did it! You captured one of the most powerful ships in the galaxy! Celebrations lasting for days, toasts to the fallen and a course plotted for the nearest opportunity to profit from your newfound power
>you will never go from rags to riches, a invincible fleet made by a ragtag bunch kept together by the indestructible bonds of camaraderie that only hardship and struggle can forge

>>388361853
Why can't they just copy freelancer

>>388361505
I highly doubt that their other games are draining ED funding, Planet Coaster has more active users and almost as many game sales as ED in half the time and their Jurassic World game is bankrolled by Universal.
ED is just reaching the end of its value to keep developing for at this point. For such a niche game, it will probably never go much farther than it already has unless they release a major update NMS style.
They could be planning such a thing but who knows anymore. When it comes to ED no one should be holding their breath at this point.

>>388370851
>Where is the game?

That's it. That's the game.

>>388356823
>spend 6 months farming to buy a ship
>take it out for a spin
>someone ganks you as soon as you undock
>have to farm for another 6months or pay $3000
It's like they took a shittier Eve Online and jewed the fuck out of it.

>>388370851
Walking simulator in space.

>>388355325
I like how all the ED and SC fags don't know that Star Conflict has had an open world mode for years now with more content, on a F2P game that has more ships to boot.

>>388372338
>star conflict
It's a horrid piece of shit. Its 'open world' has literally no other people playing it at the same time since everyone just plays missions, it uses world of tanks shitty xp system to unlock new ships, and it jews the ever loving fuck out of you if you don't want to spend ten years unlocking stuff.
So it's possible cultists don't know about it, but they're not missing anything.

>>388371329
I enjoyed this.

>>388362438
gaben is missing

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Humans should be like orks. We could be exploring space RIGHT NOW looking for foights and more flashy dakka.

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>>388363227
>be part of the first wave of CIG Compatible neuro-augs
>appointment finally comes
>put under, implant installed, wake up feeling incredibly groggy
>mild numbness in hand
>doctor says it may go away in a week, and schedules a service visit for me in the next week
>numbness gradually spreads to my entire left arm, neck, and jaw
>doc says there was a problem with the installation and the numbing may be permanent, can't sue for malpractice as it's technically a hardware issue, and not medical, I've signed onto the Cloud Imperium Cybernetics service plan, which means I need to rely on them for all care, and must arbitrate any issues with my service.
>tell the doctor this is bullshit
>he says he can cut me from the plan right now, take my implant, and I may lose my sight and hearing on my right side.
>Just go home, numbness seems to have stopped anyway, some feeling returning, but still dull
>At least I'll be able to fully interface with Star Citizen when it launches
>Next year at Citizencon 2.0 Implants are announced.
>mfw i can't upgrade

>>388362161
sony has money for shills. check pc gaming website

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>Scam Shitizen

>>388361853
I dunno, X4 is looking pretty good. It sounds like a typical X game with lessons learned the hard way from rebirth. Wasting time exploring stations to find one identikit npc to trade with has been cut to just walking between ships on the landing pad, and all the management and trading stuff is done through the menu again.

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>>388371449
No anon that can't do that. It might actually work!

>>388378704
Cute animu you have there

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>>388360691
>not playing the best spaceship game

>>388370795
Elite.

>>388355325
Scam of the fucking millenium.

>>388355325
can't wait for the crowbcat video

>>388371329
I'll buy Star Citizen when we can do stuff like this.

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>>388379890

>>388376212
Literally how biotic augs were in mass effect.

>>388371329
>Try raid on bigass ship
>Get P2W'd to hell and back

>>388357394

>Instead of fixing the shit that needs to be fixed, they just keep adding pointless features like the face tracking.

Actually its more like they have to wait for the code monkeys to rig up all their various subsystems to get their basic functionality online and replace the placeholder stuff they stapled onto it. Then they stick them all together and they run into even more problems.

In the meantime they have some other team stuff more things onto the base and cause even more problems in the downtime they're waiting for the major things to be finished.

>>388379890
What makes it ever funnier is that whenever something bad happens they make the player look away.

>>388378704
I WANT it to work

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>>388379890
>it just stops dead with no intertia, like a fucking Looney Tunes bit

>>388355325
fair price for a space ship, I mean its really a steal when you think about how much it costs to build one of those things!

>>388357184
>you have to buy a proprietary webcam to use it
i missed this part but holy shit, if their fans are dumb enough to fall for this shit while the game is largely unfinished, they should keep milking their dumb fans.

>>388355325
the equivolent to this being obtained in game can't be worth 3000$ worth of time right?

and if not why the fuck would you even buy it for 3000$

I also thought star citizen was single player

>>388365505
This might unironically happen with the climate.

If this flops will it be the biggest disaster in gaming history?

>every popular kickstarter has failed
>every kickstarter you didn't know about went well

weird

>>388386374
>I also thought star citizen was single player
It was meant to have a single player campaign as an introduction, but the multiplayer shared universe was always the whole point.

>>388361853
>X4 might be good, but it's looking like Rebirth 2 at this point

seriously my first "oh maybe I shouldn't trust devs"
still
mad

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How much can I sell my account for?

I have a golden ticket and a physical colonel package with an upgrade to a super hornet

Hey guys wait up I got an idea.

Lets give loads of money to the man who hasn't been in the industry for years, and his last project was a bloated failure that Microsoft had to come in and rescue.

>>388386808
Likely a fair amount, you can't get golden cards and (Far as I know) LTI any more, and there are plenty of cultists who'd lay down hard cash for those.

I'm going to see if 3.0 fixes the netcode (it won't) and when it doesn't, I'll be doing the same.

>>388386632
>multiplayer shared universe
Why do people keep falling for this meme? I don't want to spend time dealing with xXxShad0wK1ll3rxXx or his thousands of clones. I want, maybe, to play with a couple of my friends. Just give me a fucking single player game with the option of co-op.

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>>388355492
>to suggest that it was a failure, even from actual fans
Ha. No.

Glad I got my refund.

>>388386525
Yes, absolutely.

>>388387847
It can't really flop. It has 150 million in sales. The product doesn't exist, but that doesn't stop the money from coming in.

>>388361853
Iv thought about this quite a bit and honestly its probably because every time someone makes a space game its either

1. A space shooter only (which could just be a normal ground based shooter but with a gimmick)
or
2. A 4x space game with combat, trading, exploration, ect ect ect

The problem with the second point is its too fucking much content. You could make a really fun and interesting game just about space mining, or space ship combat, or space exploration. You dont fucking have to do EVERYTHING all the time like these developers do.

Its a core reason why people wanted NMS to succeed so much. It was going to just focus on space exploration of the unknown. Obviously it failed because they didn't offer what they promised but that doesn't change the fact that a space game that focuses on one aspect of space is better than one that tries to do it all.

>>388387723
Its been deemed a failure but the sane fans, but the sane fans are not vocal on any of the communities for Star Citizen, as they are all filled with an insane cult. I don't even tell people that I backed SC's kickstarter, I don't want to be labeled as some cultist furry fuck.

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>>388387723
>People really are lack of gratitude nowadays
>People should be grateful for being sold something

I will back it if they add Dyson Spheres.

>>388387985

4X space games work fine, but I get your point. Star Citizen is an unfocused mess of half-baked systems with only a vague "you can ANYTHING" as its goal.

>>388370114
>He fell for the preorder meme.
If it ever actually does come out and looks to actually be a decent, functional game and has actual gameplay I'll buy it that very instant. But I'm not dumb enough to spend my money on the promise of something later, especially when it comes to modern video games where leaving half the game on the cutting room floor is the industry standard, and especially not a game promising the ambitious shit this game did. Anyone who spends money on something that is not right there and functional in the game in front of them right now in this industry is a complete fucking idiot who deserves to be scammed.

>>388357394
It is a scam. Chris and co. are selling digital goods well above any reasonable price.
>Instead of fixing the shit that needs to be fixed, they just keep adding pointless features like the face tracking.
The face tracking thing is actually something that they hinted at several years ago through various 10ftC videos. It's still ridiculous though.

>>388370114
Probably the same people that enjoy Aurora or Elite Dangerous. Without some degree of mania your normal flight sim fan probably won't be able to penetrate the barrier of esoteric controls.

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>>388355325
I love Star Citizen threads.

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The problem with space sims is the same problem with flight sims: they're inherently boring. The game it's just you moving inside a big open space, be the sky or space, shooting at red dots in the screen.
Even if Star Citizen wasn't bloated with features, focusing only on the starship part, it would get boring fast.

>but Ace Combat
The Ace Combat games work because they're heavily scripted supported by cheesy / melodramatic writing, and even then the games are just chasing green dots until they become red dots and then press circle twice.

>>388392652
>tie fighter
>privateer
>freespace
>boring
nigger, there isn't even a word for how wrong you are.

>>388355325
Meanwhile, the X4 reveal went well.

>>388355325
I remember this game looking cool as fuck in 2013? It's 2017 and it's still not out? Wtf is going on...

Chris Roberts knows how to sell an idea though. And we all ate it up. Delicious idea. Was worth it.

>>388395465
>we

Even if it was released and was relatively bug free, it still doesn't seem like a very fun game.

I already did the space grind stuff in E:D and that got boring after 20 hours.

Only entertaining stuff about is going to be commandeering a big ship with a bunch of friends. And the bigger ships are most likely just cost too much

>>388387985
>The problem with the second point is its too fucking much content.
That's the thing. It's not.
Mechanically, what you're describing is no different from what happens in literally every MMO since fucking Runescape. The only difference is that you move in three dimensions.
Mining space rocks from your space ship with a space drill and taking it to the space city to sell to space players is no different from going to the mines and using your pickaxe, it just has a different coat of paint.

>>388395634
Wuz :D

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that commentaries

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>>388386316
>if their fans are dumb enough to fall for this shit while the game is largely unfinished
>if

To be honest, IF Star Citizen was a functional game, and IF I was rich enough to throw away 3k$ I would actually consider purchasing some big ass monthership to stroke my ego. This is no worse than retards spending fortunes on MtG or 40K toys

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one day...

>>388359054
>Seamless
Didn't they already confirm everything is literally instanced?

>have paid zero dollars
>have watched spergs on both sides freak out
>might possibly play a space sim in my lifetime
>it might possibly not suck
Feels good man

>>388361627
>french accent
Do you mean arabic?

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Day 1 pirate

>>388379104
>gatecamp simulator
>svipul f1 monkey

No fuck off

Star Citizen started when Obama was just running for his 2nd term. Trump(or somebody else) is nearing the end of his 2nd term(or first term) and this is when SC will supposed to come out.

This is some holy shit moment for me when I realized this.

>>388355492
Buggy as fuck and crashed few times, and dropped into single digit performance at times
But the content was impressive

Biggest problems were the noname gamers/actors used to play it, they fallowed a script no matter what with complete lack of improvisation or any real charisma or banter, they would say "we" "us" when they stood alone since otehrs dies but were supposed to survive and shit like that. It just turned a presentation no much more buggier than any Bethesda game into a mess.

>>388400350
>But the content was impressive
You do know that the content they show in these events are heavily scripted right? And even then they rushed just so they can show something.

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>>388358297
Well apparently they already burned through 100 million $$$.

THAT is why they are so motivated to sell ships. They're burning through money fast.

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With these prices you may as well lease those ships. I can buy a real car for it, have video games gone too far?

How the fuck is this even supposed to work:

>Expand the game everytime making it bigger
>If a game gets bigger it needs more time for bugtesting otherwise its going to be non playable for mny people because they experience bugys because the Pc market is a clusterfuck of different settings

>>388362438
Who's that in the bottom right next to Todd?

>>388379890
i dont get it

>>388400894
Jay "fuck that loser " Wilson, the cuntlap that is responsble for original diablo 3.

>>388358845
silkysmooth 4fps

>>388361853
They're too big and messy, there's no structure to them because their design philosophy is essentially structureless. You're just asking for bugs and long periods of boredom.

All space games are like this unless they focus on very specific mechanics like trade, strategy or just combat.

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>>388386316
>>388386316
>>388386316
This.

I actually want them to get even more ridiculous. Like, they sell you a helmet with a dildo on it if you wanna be star command and just see how many people pay for it.

I'd actually appreciate a big bait and switch and by like; oh hey you're retarded for giving us money, good day

People are still taking scam citizen seriously?

>>388362161
It's semi-decent if you enjoy exploration games and the developers (apart from not admitting they fucked up) are constantly working to improve it, which is always a good thing regardless of how much you want to hate them. Something similar happened to Orion: Prelude, it was some indie MP game that was garbage on release but the devs worked had and it turned out pretty fun.

>>388386625
Not really. People only want drama, so the ones that fail get known because you get threads like this and Crowbat videos. Respectable Kickstarters have their success, gets wrapped up and the only people who were interested (ie, the backers) get their product and all's good at the end of the day.

>>388400459
>You do know that the content they show in these events are heavily scripted right? And even then they rushed just so they can show something.
Dont care if its scripted or not, but they did show all they promised.
Seamless drop in and out multiplayer.
Planetary travel and procedural planets, large bases and custom made assets blended with those planets.
The new inventory system and new ui system, aslo render to texture for ingame display systems like tvs and holograms.
The rpg and quest system as well as fully working finished facial animation system.
The new volumetric fog tech, bit buggy in some spots but works.
And space combat,

What they really need to fix is the collision detection and tessellated planets, rendering of objects binded to animation bones, they tend to disappear probably getting culled or spaz out, and performance, now its seems like heavy gun effects and other fxs just fucking kill performance or drop the fps so low the game crashesh

>>388401891
>Dont care if its scripted or not
you are the problem

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>>388379890
>It gets worse every time he pans back

>>388392652

Here's your (You)