ITT: Sympathetic villains

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>>388355298

griffith

lol

How's Ryan sympathetic? He's a hypocrite that turned on his principles the moment another man outperformed him in the free market

>m-m-muh taxation is theft
glad he's dead desu

>>388355919
I'd rather have Ryan as top shit instead of Fontaine. Literal criminal psychopath

>>388355403
What was he thinking anyway?

>>388356015
Isn't it though?

>>388355919
Fontaine was a criminal that made money though smuggling, he was cool with fontaine being richer than him until he found out about his criminal activities

>>388355919
Because he is a broken, ideologue, a sad little man who was tested against his own principles and found wanting. There's a tragic beauty in that.

>>388355403
I don't get it

>>388356657
There's no such thing as smuggling in a libertarian paradise. If you take something somewhere and sell it for cheaper, tough shit on the competition.

>>388356302
If it is, not all theft should be illegal

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>>388356426
STOP

>>388356806
ITS HIP TO FUCK BEES

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>>388356426
don't

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>>388355298

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He was right, you know.

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>>388356865
>tfw taxation isn't theft

>>388355298
Man, I'd forgotten just how shitty and plasticky Ryan actually looked.

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>>388356426

>>388355919

Ryan represents the idea of the free market and libertarian principals while Fontaine was the bitter reality that when competition is allowed to rule that what rises isn't good for the free market but the singular good for men without humanity, principles, or morality.

Unregulated societies with a backbone of competition will always side with sociopaths.

Ryan was a dreamer who simply sought a utopian society where those willing to work and want could create freely and without constraint. The real world does not and will never work like that. Fonatine is the end result. Rapture's fall is post Capitalism.

>>388357401
that's Xbox 360 graphics for ya

>>388357908
Very well put

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Lamb was a hundred times more sympathetic imo. I wanted her to win and hated having to work against her. Oh well.

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>>388356295
WAAAA--RRRRRAAAARRgghghHGHHGHHHAA

>>388355919
I felt like that theme park in 2 fleshed him out more. Of course he'd hate government after experiencing the Soviet Revolution

>>388357971
I wonder if the HD upgrade made anything look better.

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>>388355298

moshi moshi

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Literally our guy

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>>388358816
Not meant to be a reply

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"How dare he pursue women, everyone should be a spineless bitch like me? My non-stop genuflecting will make all the women love me!"

Signed,
Every Persona 5 writer and white knights with bad bodies who, at best, are in the friendzone

>>388357908
>side with sociopaths
A word used to describe anyone without an excess amount of estrogen.

Your empathetic, "I wish I were a mommy" bullshit doesn't result in high yields. You can keep being upset about this all you want, but some men are built to perform and you aren't one of them.

>>388358962
He was a teacher using his position to coerce students into doing shit they wouldn't do otherwise, that on top of sexually harrasing the blonde's friend.

>>388358962
My cousin plays tons of Persona games and he considers himself "genderqueer" now. Did this weebshit have something to do with it?

>>388359917
maybe, or maybe faggotry runs in your bloodline.
the fanbase has gone to shit since the big first anime adaptation

>>388359168
>"lol bro just kill those babies if you can make a profit out of it, it's all fair game bro, morality is a spook"
Sociopaths are the greatest threat to any community and should be killed immediately.

>>388360378
Yeah well he's also a berniebro. I feel like there's some unique set of circumstances that led to his particular brand of faggotry.
i lied he's actually my brother. how did we grow so different?

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He just wanted to get rid of the normies and replace them with the master race.

>>388360580
ok let me guess he also watch a little girl cartoon about magical talking horses and he fap to those horses and then dress up as a horse and go to conventions where he have sex with other guys dressed up as horses

>>388355919
That makes him sympathetic.

He's not entirely villainous, he accomplishes many things, but is inherently flawed.

>>388360580
You're both faggots, so I couldn't tell. Berniebro is just one of the most obvious signs of faggotry.

>>388360603
By master race you mean the deformed and infertile uggos who get dumber the more radiation they've had in their bodies before their transformation?

Ryan isn't the antagonist. If that should be a meme it isn't funny. Fontaine is the antagonist of the game.

>>388359168
lol brah empathy is the actual reason humanity has progressed.

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>>388358816
I'm sorry, at the end I just couldn't keep Bertrude from dunking all over everyone.

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pic related

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>>388355298

>>388360924
No, fertile deformed uggos who weren't retarded at all because they were taken from Vault Dwellers who had never been extensively irradiated. The moment he found out the fertile part was impossible he suicides.

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>>388359448
>using his position
Everyone uses their position, their status, their money, etc to fuck broads.

Every single dude. Its why you are inflating your life on Facebook right now, making yourself seem more interesting, attempting to raise your social status.

Every male has done it since the dawn of time and pussy responds to it. The only ones upset at Kamoshida are the lethargic males who think they should get free hourglass pussy just by existing.

>>388361298
Murder is still murder.

>>388360436
Sociopaths have led every country, every army, and every village throughout history. You are destined to be cattle because you chose to be cattle. Fuck off and move on.

>>388356774
>There's no such thing as smuggling in a libertarian paradise. If you take something somewhere and sell it for cheaper, tough shit on the competition.
There is when the only reason said paradise exists is because of it very specifically is trying to remain secluded from the world's governments and any prying eyes that would fuck it up in a heartbeat.

>>388361448
There's a difference between flaunting your position and letting people come to you and using it as a club to force people to do shit, desu.

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>>388361473
Can't beat Simon in a ethics debate. He BTFOd Miles until he gave up and just said "fuck it I have the police here why am I debating philosophy I just need to prove he did it... s-s-surely I am morally superior anyway..."

>>388355528
fuck Griffith and fuck you for saying his name

>>388361640
Fuck you

>>388356426
Did she actually do anything at all except fuck shit up?

>>388361401
Yes, exactly my point although the Master also could've researched a way
A) to make them fertile
or
B) giving humans more resilience against radiation and the wildlife without deforming them
He just took the fucking easiest part, using humans like tortilla chips, dipping them into FEV tanks like into salsa. What's the point in being a fucking mutant-machine mastermind if you can't even figure out that super mutants didn't have working reproductive organs?

>>388361547
>sociopaths have led anything
Are you trying to list Napoleon and Hitler as successful politicians? And not every successful person is a sociopath. It's just you and you're a loser. You're Elliot Rodger except more pathetic.

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>>388361646
>flaunt
If you are an authority, you don't have to flaunt anything. Women are instinctively attracted to the center of power in any social group. Being upset over this is on par with being upset that one needs to take shits every now and then.

>>388361547
>Gandhi was a Sociopath
You are destined to be a retard, apparently.

>>388361547
How many villages you lead, brah?

>>388362087
>villain

You still have some steps to take

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>>388361519
hahaha xD upvoted my fellow pedes.
F*ck off >>>/pol/

>>388362263
Gandi was most definitely a sociopath.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/jan/27/mohandas-gandhi-women-india

>>388361858
She got you through half of the game's locked doors.

>>388362228
yeah, but kamoshida wasn't flaunting his position, he was straight up blackmailing students. Having to blackmail and harrass under8 students sounds beta to me desu

>>388362595
Well women ARE subhuman, so he got that one right.

>>388362816
>blackmail
If you have an established powerbase, you need to protect it and promote its growth.

>>388362816
Stop giving him (you)s

>>388363053
Ah, I see your the kind of person who hopes that hopes you can lick the prestige off of people's boots. Being a sycophant isn't how those vapid cunts you worship got where they are.

Maybe when you find another religion you'll understand that.

>>388363781
Even hitler is more sympthatic than that guy. Guy literally fucked over humanity because he couldnt wait a few more thousand years to cure her daughter.

>>388363926
He was lied to. His daughter was impossible to cure.

>>388361547
[citation needed]

>>388363926
Not his fault Weiss lost his memories.

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>>388358247
Andrew Ryan is based on Ayn Rand's life and work. They have the same background and ideology and Andrew Ryan is an electrical engineer like John Galt.

>>388362453
Don't get so angry at jokes, tumblr.

>>388356426
Motherfucker.

>>388358128
Fucking disgusting

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>>388356806

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>>388358128
Fucking commie degenerate.

>>388357172
I really did want to join him.
Too bad Jewbisoft couldn't include a DLC where you actively hunt down the Golden Path.

>>388357172
absolutely. especially the endings for the two golden path leaders highlighted how bad they were even against Min's regime.

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Not even memeing

>>388363926
>not being sympathetic to Hitler
Do you think he just hated Jews for no reason? You people really do not give any thought into it, do you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution_of_1918%E2%80%9319

>>388362453
hitler jokes were all over the internet since before 4chan was born, you would know that if you weren't a 12 year old triggered tumblrina

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Not able to save him :(

>>388358816
Had he been with the plan from the get go I would've chose him, but him disrespecting the rights and being a general asshole didn't help either

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>>388355298
I still think Bioshock's whole schtick is kind of politically unfair.
There are far better ways to critique unregulated free markets without fucking magic sea slugs that give you superpowers and also drive you crazy.

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>>388370130
It was cool though.

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>>388355298

>implying he was even the villain

>>388358128
unlike ryan it was clear that she was nuts from the start

>>388370997
Comstock has no motivation for anything beyond muh religion.

>>388373263
I think it was just not explored well enough, there is no explanation why he started hating other races and cultures even though as Booker he never gave a fuck about it.

>>388373568
He has no reason at all, he got baptizaed in the first place because he felt guilty after slaughtering natives and chinese.
Also his great plan is to destroy New York, Comstock doesn't make any sense.

>>388373568
Back in his Army days, he got a lot of shit from his comrades and superior Officers due to a rumor that his family had Native blood. Comstock Booker (maybe both) got sick of it and went apeshit at Wounded Knee over it, so its probably retroactive justification.

>>388370997
wait whos the brown guy
also commiestock was trash

>>388361547
bullshit, maybe sociopaths can make tough calls better but that doesnt make them intelligent and/or brilliant leaders

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:^)