Defend console exclusives

I can't

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>>388353790
AAAAAAAAAAGH SONY SAVE MEEEEEEEE

Competition is healthy. Just a shame there's nobody to compete with.

>>388353790
defend killing off the best character

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>>388353790
In a free market companies are allowed to choose how they sell their products. You may not like it, or think it's a good decision for them, but it's still their right to make that decision. It's your decision how to spend your money.

>>388353790
It's fine if the hardware company is actually bankrolling a project and creating new games. It's not fine when a company pays more just to fuck over another hardware company out of getting a release.

Multiplatform games tend to be shittier overall; they're the whore games of the industry selling themselves out to everyone. Exclusives are sweet, sweet virgins only the chosen can play and they take full advantage of hardware.

Of course PC gamers despise console exclusives as the PC has literally no good exclusives whatsoever, so every console exclusive is basically one giant "fuck you" to their overpriced gaming rigs.

>>388354204

It doesn't mean /v/ needs to defend them

>>388354296
Not everyone is as frugal with their money or as negatively affected by console exclusivity as you are. It's not going to be a problem for everyone; only people who understand why it suffocates innovation and creativity.

>>388354258
>and they take full advantage of hardware.
Shame Microsoft and Sony are just making underpowerd PCs now. Gone are the days of interesting hardware architecture that offer something different than the competition. Only Nintendo is willing to do so.

>>388353790
Without consoles, the video game industry would shift to mobile gaming. PC gaming wouldn't disappear, but it would become even more dire; nothing but indie games and ports of iOS mobage.
AA and AAA gaming on PC would cease to exist, it would cease exist all together.

Consoles need exclusives to be successful, they are a deciding factor in the consumers choice of who to support. Without them there's really no reason to buy a console, and without consoles gaming would die.

You need consoles, and you need exclusives. You just don't know it.

>>388354654
Absolutely untrue.

>>388354654

There's no reason to believe anything you just wrote

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>>388353790
Smelly dumb Stannis scum, worship the one true Queen.

>>388354790
>>388354817
Prove him wrong.

>>388353790
They make PCfats sperg out and cry on the internet.

>>388354790
>>388354817
PC gaming isn't profitable enough for AAA or AA gaming, but mobile gaming is.

Cry all you want but you need consoles or all you're left with is mmo's, mobas, early access open world survival crafting, and lootboxes

>>388354991

He needs to prove himself right first

>>388354654
T H I S

No.
At least I have emulators.

>>388354991
>>388355000
PC gaming is profitable even in the current economic and competitive atmosphere. Make it the only platform developers can make games using the most advanced tools and techniques and it would flourish.

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>>388355000

>PC gaming isn't profitable enough for AAA or AA gaming, but mobile gaming is.

>Cry all you want but you need consoles or all you're left with is mmo's, mobas, early access open world survival crafting, and lootboxes

Who's arguing against the existence of consoles?

>>388355139
>Being a thief

>>388353790
>muh bloodborne

>>388355000
>without consoles, games would be distilled to their most pure, perfect core elements

Trips of truth

>>388355079
>>388355183
My source is sales; AAA and AA sell far more on consoles than they do on PC.
PC is ironically more profitable than consoles, but not for traditional gaming. The profit comes from microtransactions (lootboxes, knives, skins, etc), mmo subscriptions and facebook tier gaming.

If you think normies would flock to PC if consoles died you're delusional. They've all got phones and tablets already, they'll go there.

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>>388355310

You don't even realize what this thread is about, do you?

>>388353790
Did they already brought him back?

Or are they saving his return for Season 7?

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>>388353790
Defend PC exlusives

>>388355204
Arguing against console exclusive IS arguing against the existence of consoles.
Consoles need them or they're effectively useless; see xbone

>>388353790
Because I love corporate dick up my ass and the idea of companies who totally don't have a monopoly fucking both me and my wallet while my rational brain watches helps me get off.

>>388355436
See >>388355480

>>388355205
I mean, yeah. Rather just get the game than pay hundreds of dollars for a console that doesn't have that many games I'm interested in anyways.

>>388353790
Consoles need to be competitive against PC, for the sake of good solo games.
PC gaming is a disaster because of steam.

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>>388355480

>Arguing against console exclusive IS arguing against the existence of consoles.
>Consoles need them or they're effectively useless; see xbone

The PS4 didn't sell because of its exclusives, you should just leave the thread you massive brainlet

As a wise company once told, give me twelve good games and I'll impregnate the bitch

>>388354171
Stannis was an entitled prick.
I loved the man, but goddamn, try seeing further than your own eyelashes.

>>388355458
No ones paying for them to stay exclusives, more often they just don't work on other platforms or the dev doesn't have resources for porting.

>>388355868
No shit he was entitled. He was the rightful king.

>>388353790
people need a excuse to buy outdated hardware

>>388355981
After these asshats STOLE the Iron Throne from the RIGHTFUL rulers, the Targaryeans.

>>388353790
Impossible. They're the epitome of anti-consumerist practices

>>388353790
>Modern day
I can't
>Everything before 2007
Amazing, all consoles pushed their own kind of games and multiplats offered sustancial differences. Each year we got a rich vareity of games and new classics.

>>388355480
Consoles are a nothing more than a cost-effective (in theory) benchmark PC that gives game devs a standard of quality their games can be made for, rather than having to figure out whether or not a game is optimized well enough to sell positively.

They give the industry a point of reference that says "it needs to be able to run on these machines reliably". Consoles really should just be a competition between companies regarding cheapest cost:most power.

Also handheld consoles are a thing, most people aren't a fan of laptop gaming so they tend to be pretty popular.

Does /v/ have Bobby posting yet?

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>>388356229

>>388354595
>it's another "/v/eddit regurgitates the exact same talking points about the current state of consoles despite not being alive back when console hardware had truly significant differences" episode
Even as far back as 6th gen, despite the differences in architecture consoles had become largely homogenized with the original Xbox literally being the "underpowered PC" Reddit told you to despise so much. Multiplats were never as abundant before as they were during 6th gen, with the only major differences being performance-wise rather than previous generations where two systems might have completely different versions of a game.
>>388356079
>2007 somehow magically ruined everything because of a TV sitcom only normalfags watch and a fucking phone
This is the most Reddit fucking opinion, 2007 didn't somehow magically ruin everything you know and love and 7th gen consoles didn't get their best exclusives until after 2007. Think for your fucking self instead of letting /v/ and Reddit decide all of your opinions for you via funny meme pictures and absurd conspiracy theories.

>>388353790
As long as Sony is the only one with them, then is ok.

>>388356378
CoD MW came out on 2007 too. TBBT is a symptom, not the decease.

>>388353790

It's good business.

>but what about the consumer

Companies gotta get paid, man. If every platform had the same games then what's even the point of having multiple consoles? Exclusives are one of the defining factors in how these machines actually differentiate themselves from one another, and one of the main avenues for consumers to pick your product over the competition. Wanna play Bloodborne? Gotta do it on a PS4. Wanna play Sunset Overdrive? Gotta do it on a Xbone. Splatoon 2? Switch. It's a game as old as the industry itself and everyone plays it. I've never understood the use in bitching about it, it is what it is and if I were a hardware dev with a major console on the market I'd do it too.

>>388353790
>Defend PC exclusives

It's fun to shit post eh anon?

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>>388356653
>then what's even the point of having multiple consoles?

>>388354860
It's canon now that she isn't the rightful heir by any means, by her logic it should be Jon Snow.

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>>388356735
>don't have to limit yourself to stone age tier console hardware
>a lot of genres don't work with a gamepad
There, that was easy

>>388353987
this

I am a dumb goy who needs to validate his purchase.

>>388354654
There is a simpler reason to buy a console, you just turn it on and play (granted lately the updates are a fucking mess, but after that its brain dead), you don't have to bother with specs, you don't have to deal with drivers not working, and you don't need to ensemble a machine for it, exclusives are just a plus

>>388356229
CAREFUL NOW!!!!

>>388356229
I forget, who is pregnant?

>ywn live in a world where phones are handheld tier powerful with handheld tier games and pcs are the only home console

>>388357074
To most people that have an IQ greater than 85 operating a PC is as simple as that.

>>388357398

I will never accept phones as a handheld replacement until conventional control schemes are a standard issue practice with them. Kinda like what the Xperia Play tried, but standardized across the board. Then we'll talk.

>>388357810
Not really, you need a good machine for games to run just like that, and even then it probably won't run all games you want to play

>>388355981
The Dragon riding master race are the rightful rulers. They are the ones that united the seven kingdoms. Without their power the seven kingdoms can't stay together. Within one generation after the rebellion you have years of civil war between "kingdoms" none of whom actually have the power to keep all 7 kingdoms together.

>>388356070
no, it's not anti-consumer you dumb dumb. It's capitalism pure and simple.

>>388357810
calling people stupid just because they don't make the same decisions as you is very dogmatic way to live. sad.

>>388353790
ok

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>company funds development of a game
>woah woah woah how come you're not putting this game on your competitor's console?

>>388354204
we understand why it happens in an economical context, it's just that beyond that, what the fuck is the point? as consumers we have NOTHING to gain from it.

>>388359423
>BUT I DESERVE TO PLAY THAT GAME
>PUT IT ON MY SYSTEM RIGHT NOW

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>>388353790
Bloodborne.
Good shit.

>>388356229
your a big boar targarian whore

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>>388354654
>consoles disappear off the face of the earth
>rpgs and fps start being made as pc exclusives again

>>388359576
yes you do have something to gain from it. if exclusives didn't exist you would have factually less games to play because sony/nintendo/microsfot wouldn't invest in first party development to make exclusives.

>>388359423
>system company funds development of a game for exclusive use on their system in return
Well there's your problem

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>>388354654
>>388355000
>>388355310
>t. dumb 'Murican
PC gaming actually competes with (and in some cases even reigns supreme over) consoles in Europe as well as every other western country on the planet. This is evidenced by the fact that the "crash" of '83 was exclusive to the States, while the rest of the western world carried just fine with computer gaming.
The reason consoles are so dominant in the US is because its hypercapitalist culture fosters megaconglomerates like Micro$oft and $ony to shower the public in advertising that convinces them that their license-powered cuckboxes are the way to play.

>>388353790
Console manufacturer funds the game and takes on the risk, they should reap the reward.

>>388360417
Maybe it's because there's only two places on Earth that develops modern game consoles, Murrica and Nippon, and they're unsurprisingly the two places where console gaming is this popular.

I can even defend differing console when they are literally the same shit just with differing levels of hardware. I mean, what is the real difference between an xbox or playstation for example? They are functionally the same. Console bullshit is a cancer, and what is the point of competition when the companies just copy each other anyway?

They exist to justify the existence of consoles, on which it is easier to exploit customers with terrible consumer practices than it is on pc.

>>388359821
Maybe the devs should man the fuck up and learn how to do it themselves.
Or make it an exclusive, it really doesn't matter to idorts.

>>388359705
The mere existence of the game doesn't explain or justify its exclusiveness, idiot.

Making consoles feel relevant and safe.

>>388361425
>on which it is easier to exploit customers with terrible consumer practices than it is on pc.

Just as bad on pc at this point really

>>388359819
Yeah these companies would totally just quit their jobs and not make games anymore.

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>>388353790
Because console gaming doesn't exist without them

>>388353790
1st parties would rather have their games on their own machine

defend being poor

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>>388361216
>Murrica and Nippon
Not for much longer, if the XBox's future is any indication.

>>388353790
They keep the console player base off PC communities

>>388362101
>system is only useful with exclusive games

Defend companies that create such a shit system that the only attraction is exclusives

>>388362368
you never defended being poor but...

games that otherwise would not have gotten financed now have been given the incentive to be financed. Also there are so many damn genres that outsell on the console vs. PC

EA would not be the juggernaut if only the PC existed. eurotrash are not going to buy gaming PCs and keep them updated to play FIFA.

Now defend being a jobless NEET with no disposable income

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>>388355727
>earth

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>>388361973

>Because console gaming doesn't exist without them

High end PC gaming will never become mainstream unless Prebuilts are both reliable and affordable. The vast majority of consumers do not want to build a machine from scratch.

>>388362572
But i'm not a NEET. Only retards buy everything indiscriminately. Why does it benefit me for companies to make as much profit as possible? I much preferred the games coming out when it was more of a niche hobby, so your financing excuse doesn't work.

>>388362923
Proof?

>>388353790
Console exclusives tend to (not always, mind you) be the best looking games when they're released. They look better than PC games do.

I have no idea why this is.

>>388363049

Prove your claims first

>>388362989
this hobby is not that expensive. look at audiophiles, movie snobs, car faggots, gun phanatics etc. people that travel will spend thousands of dollars to go to some shitty 3rd world country and spend time drinking filthy water with some tea extract in the company of shitskins.

nobody said to buy everything. buy what interests you. are you retarded? of course you are anon. you want everything available to you with minimal effort.

Earlier posts are really hyperbolic, but consoles are needed or otherwise the market would shift to inferior hardware because most people don't have a system that's comparable to a console. Most played games on pc are things like league which are free and run on toasters. Consoles provide a large base of affordable yet still decent hardware. Generational leaps happen because of consoles, there would be no reason for developers to push graphical and computational capabilities if newer consoles never existed. If console development stopped now, there would be no point for developers to push beyond their capabilities, likewise if consoles never got mainstream success there would be no reason to develop for anything above the bottom line. Consoles push the bottom line, and the exclusives they bring are what ultimately challenge the status quo of gaming because they attract players to those consoles. No one would've bankrolled The Last Guardian and hell maybe Bloodborne. Exclusives bring people like me to consoles, and consoles are ultimately good for the industry.

>>388355480

That's like saying that if there were TV brand exclusive shows it would be a good thing. God its like you were born retarded.

Who was the best king of Westeros?

>>388356804
he doesn't want it so it would fall to her....

>>388363516
>if there were TV brand exclusive shows

Netflix originals, Amazon Prime -whatever they call them- exist.

>>388363612
Good example. They produce shows that for one reason or another might not get cable network support. And they tend to be really good reasons for subscribing to that platform

>>388353790
pc has them nintendo has them and sony has them the only one out is xbox

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>>388363331
Sales numbers in terms of consoles are more numerous in terms of their exclusive aside from a select few multiplats
Xbox 360: Kinect Adventures GTAV Halo 3 top the list 2 of which are exclusivestill
PS4: Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero Dawn top the list
Xbox 1: Gives you the upper hand I'm not gonna deny it but still has 2 halo games in the top 10
Nintendo: Breath of the Wild Mario and Mario Kart
I'm going to admit that I was hasty in saying that coNoles no longer exist without exclusive but I will say that they are irrelevant without them

>>388363331
Your turn

>>388355727
hes right you know, the ps4 has no games

>>388360417
>being this mad at how people spend their money
the sad thing is that you see yourself as an intellectual, lmao

>>388353790
Defend graphic card exclusive features.

>>388363612

I'm talking the big flat thing you buy at the store dingus. Not digital services.

>>388353790
>don't have to take many different hardware combinations into consideration
>don't have to take many different input combinations into consideration
>volume doesn't blast your eardrums open the first time you start a new game
PC will never have a game where physics is part of the gameplay the same way BotW does it.

hiiii

>>388365414

Half Life 2 did it literally over 10 years ago though.

>>388365404
pizza?

>>388365414
What is half life?

>>388365414
botw is just a weak garrys mod clone

>>388365574
>>388365664
We haven't seen anything like it since because every bit of processing power you can get from a computer goes into graphics, especially weaker computers.

This is obviously not the case for most exclusives out there, considering the size and budget of them, but for smaller teams, focusing on one platform, or PC+one console, allows for fewer in-development branches, in turn making it easier and cheaper to maintain. This is why there's a decent amount of Indies that are PC+PS4 and PC+Switch. Only developing for one console means you only need to invest in one devkit and work on one unique architecture.

>>388353790
It's shit a stupid idea to sell products nothing more nothing less.