Golden age of FPS

>>388331969

lolno

I dont like fps so I dont know

>an First Person Shooter

>>388331969
Mid-90s was the golden age. Things are looking better, for sure, with games like D44M, Wolfenstein, QC, Dusk, and Ion Maiden, but we're far from another golden age.

wasn't KF2 a massive failure

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>not unreal

>>388331969
Hahahahahahahahahahaha

>FPS has been the dominant genre among normans for 10 years
>"we're in a golden age"

yeah fuck off I'm still waiting for FPS to die down.

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>>388331969
>Overwatch
Dropped.

>>388331969
the 90's was the fps golden age

>>388332239
>a eff pee ess

Considering that a game like Pubg is popular, pretty much shows this. Once they start porting the game to consoles, it will likely keep trucking on despite being an unoriginal, unfinished shooter.

>>388331969
That was four years ago

Now were entering a dark age where there is maybe 2 real big games and everyone else is trying to copy their formula.

What is happening now is what happened to 3rd person shooters after gears of war.

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>>388331969
>PUBG
>FPS
I know it has a first person mode but that's like calling GTA5 a FPS because it can go first person.

the TF2/BF2/Cod4 times were the best

>>388332481
this
also quake and cs

>>388332453
People still call Gears of War an FPS.

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>>388332343
FPS will never die down

At least in BurgerLand

>>388331969
>micro transactions (sometimes even pay to win-ish like Infinite War)
>season passes
>rampant toxic behavior cause e-sports have taught people to be that way
>no game mechanic to punish camping still

LOL no

>>388332453
the only worthwhile mode is first person mode and everyone is forced into it

>>388331969
>large playerbases + lots of games = golden age
Games journalism is a joke.

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>Overwatch
>pubg
>csgo
>implying any of these fit the title of 'golden age'
wew, no point in playing champions, quake live already exists

>>388332817
there's a possiblity that overwatch could become good
it's nublizzard, so i don't have much stock in it, but there's a possibility

>PUBG
>FPS

PC Gamer is completely worthless.

>>388331969
I'm convinced that nuDOOM was a fluke because everything on the horizon looks like trash. DUSK and Ion maiden might be good.

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>>388331969
Yes, we live in a truly innovative age for FPS. Overwatch - MOBA but in first person
PUBG - third person shooter
CS:GO - almost unchanged 4th sequel to an 8 year old game
What truly exciting time for FPS we live in. FPS never had it so good.

>>388331969
More like in a "whales and twitch tards" golden age.

>>388331969
im pretty bored of fps, so i disagree.

I haven't tried VR, but, I love the way you can move the guns and I think that'll be cool when it works as intended.

More fps games need lean.

>>388331969
>We have entered an era of video gaming where even "fps" is now an irreparably muddied definition.
Fuck just end me senpai

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>Golden Age
Maybe 20 years ago, now it's only shit, a big pile of shit.

FPS games suck ass right now.

None of the guns fire accurately, there are arbitrary spray patterns, the weapons don't respond well at all, or the game is boiled down strategically to the point of having absolutely no depth.

Or the game is a rehashed version of previous successful titles that the strategy is so defined that you can't really alter from meta that's been established for years.

Or all three.

Shit fucking sucks.

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>>388331969
lol

>>388332453
but thats exactly how it works

thats like thinking a hamburger isn't a sandwich :)

>>388331969
>era of doom clones, Arena shooters and early to late 2000's with Halo killer and shit all existed prior
Piss off

>>388333119
>Random spraypattern
Good thing all rng are pseudorandom and you can use this to your advantage of your IQ is high. Even if it was true random, it would apply to all, and do not affect skill level at all.
>

>>388333415
>tfw you finally figure out sombra's spray pattern

>>388333060
>More fps games need lean.

you can thank mw2 and consoles for that

>>388331969
>multiplayer
Who gives a fuck? The OG arena of FPSes has always and forever been single player.

There's, what? Doom? That's it.

>>388333250
Sandwiches require official sandwich bread, and the list of approved ingredients and their order in between the bread pieces TM must be upheld if it is to constituen a sandwich. Burgers are by definition not sandwiches.

Fuck no.
>TF2 and CSGO are shells of its former self and now fueled by item economy
>Overwatch wins GOTY for being the most casual piece of shit ever and now everyone wants to copy it
>Titanfall 2 lowered the time to kill of the first game and is slow with its balancing
>Rainbow Six Siege is a railcoaster of quality of fuck ups since launch
>Quake Champions is just Bethesda looking to make a quick buck off the Overwatch audience
>LawBreakers takes an interesting concept and does EVERYTHING wrong
>Quake Live and all the Quake clones are barren wastelands
>Battlefield and COD exist but offer nothing in terms of skill

And anything else I didn't mention doesn't matter.

>>388332265
4chan says every game in Early Access is doomed to fail so it must be true.

>>388333710
>>LawBreakers takes an interesting concept and does EVERYTHING wrong
is it actually bad? from the very little of it I've seen it looked ok. certainly not bad enough to warrant a quicker death than stillborn

>>388333681
This, anything but true lawful is wrong.

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>CoD and BF are still dominating
>the wave of "old-school" shooters missed point of 90s shooters hard and didn't offer anything new
>indie FPS are stuck in the procedural generation meme
>MP-only FPS not named Overwatch are dead on arrival

Some golden age

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>>388331969
Fps have always been good and in a golden age if you arent a shitter. You had games like css, quake, ut, goldeneye, etc, back in the day. Tf2, l4d, halo, cod, metroid prime, etc, in 2000s. Overwatch, pubgs, csgo, destiny, etc now a days.

Kick and scream all you want but there have always been a variety of fun and addictive fps on the market. Its honestly one of the most consistent genres out there and when one popular fps or style of fps starts to get stale a new one comes along and switches it up bringing more fun and new experiences.

>>388334373
>>indie FPS are stuck in the procedural generation meme
i haven't played immortal redneck but it seems decent enough

>>388331969
I don't like class/hero shooters and I don't like shooters where intense cooperation is required. So no.

>>388333937
You go through the anti gravity pockets really slow unless your goal is to get to the other side, meaning the hitscan characters dominate in those areas which happen to be main contesting points in all but two maps.

>>388331969
You would have to be literally five years old to think this.

>>388334708
that sucks

>overwatch
>not paladins
Stopped reading right there

>>388332583
Well, they are wrong because Gears of War is a classic TPS

>the market being nothing but crappy console cash shop multiplayer shooters makes us in a golden age
?

2007 was the golden age in FPS:
COD4, Halo 3, HL2E2, Portal, TF2, Bioshock, STALKER

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>they don't even mention the best FPS currently on the market
Shamefur dispray

>>388331969
>no RPG FPS akin to old system shock or deus ex listed
>lists shitty fad games like pubg and nu-quake
sounds like PC GAMER are a bunch of faggots

>>388335124
golden age for the companies

>>388332239
>i don't know basic grammar

>>388335468
*I

>>388331969
Fuck no

It's amazing how bad the US writers for PC Gamer are compared to the UK writers.

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>>388331969
Why are FPS's today bad but older ones are good?
How do you change FPS to make it bad?

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>>388331969
The are correct if they mean golden shit and/or shower

late 90s-early00s are supreme shooter era.

>>388335302
>2007
>not 1998
>not half-life and it's opening up to mods
>not thief
>not turok 2
>not unreal
>not tribes
>not jedi knight
>not delta force
>not quake 2 (december of '97 close enough)

>>388335821
>nickle and dime players with lootbox gamble
>cancerous abilities
>casualized so every baby gets their moment of glory

>>388331969
starts with
>Overwatch
that's enough, already
>PUBG
wew

>>388335821
-Casualize core mechanics
-Treat $60 products "as a service"
-RNG lootcrate cosmetics for what were previously in-game unlocks or already existing mutations
-remove ability to host servers
-remove features and content from games earlier in the series and reintroduce them as "free" DLC
-still advertise expansion passes before the game goes gold

>>388331969
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

*inhales*

BBBBBAAAAAAAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

>>388335959
this

>>388331969
top jej

>>388331969
>third-person shooter
>FPS

Game churros should be gassed.

>>388332239

>FPSes
>First Person Shooteres
?

>>388332702
>no game mechanic to punish camping still
Name an actual issue with camping

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>>388331969
>they're all multiplayer games

no fucking way
all the current FPS games are either garbage or are just barely FPS games

>>388336295
Is it even possible to type out a post like this without drooling and/or wiping cheeto dust off one's fat folds?

>>388331969
>posts a picture of a golden gun

Litterally defeats your own argument with that one image dumbass

>>388336543
SP shooters are always extremely dull and easy.

>>388336716
Stop that

try a little over a decade ago
plenty FPS games from the mid 2000's went on to become huge with plenty of games in series
nowadays we have these new "FPS" franchises that are reaching far and away from what I would call an FPS

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>>388336682
t. game journalist

>>388331969
They've been getting better for a while now, Bethesda's fps's (bar fallout) have been really solid, doom 4 and Wolfenstein were fucking radical.

I have battlefield 1, titanfall 2 and DOOM from this gen. I'm already burned out of the genre, I wouldn't buy another shooter for a long time. PEOPLE ACTUALLY PLAY THAT OVERWATCH SHIT.

>>388331969
I was genuinely looking forward to Lawbreakers. Looked like it'd have the gameplay style of Titanfall but more intense due both that you're a human only and the maps are tighter knit.

Nope. They just made an overwatch clone. Literally a soulless overwatch clone.

Not a single one of these are a golden age contender.

You know how when you see games like halo or fear or anything that is the first in a series and the start of something greater. That's a a golden age.

He'll I don't think it's even possible to call the age you live in golden.

Yeaaah, no. For every OKish FPS game, there are dozen of really bad ones and many that fail to get a playerbase or dies out too quickly. I also like that they only posted FPS games that are more or less online-only and lacking a campaign, several of which are pretty garbage or mediocre.

I'd say the golden age of FPS games was between 1998 and about 2008, although the id FPS games in the early 90s were spectacular as well and paved the way for a lot of stuff.

>>388335347
Fucking this

>>388337098
We got 4 more years of overwatch clones

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I just want a FPS where all players start on the same level, where only skill and some degree of luck determine who is better. Is it too much to ask? All these games with heroes and loadouts are shit.

>>388331969
in terms of variety, yes. it's objective fact.

in terms of quality, most of the best multiplayer shooters have garbage multiplayer and always have so

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>>388336643
Excuse you

>>388335347
Its like they're being ironic or stupid on purpose

>>388332382
I'd say the early 00s were
90s were the testing field with new 3d games

>PUBG
>FPS
Don't get me wrong, I do FPP in it, but the title should have just been "shooter golden age"

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>>388331969
Aimbots, Wallhacks and Invincibility at the push of a button are becoming accepted mechanics in mainstream shooters.
How is this a golden age?

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Man, if you wanted proof /v/ hates fun and vidya gaems, look no further than this thread

>>388331969
>golden age
>all the "good" games are rehashes of older games

>>388337264
> Is it too much to ask?
Yes.

If everyone is equal most people won't play that game because they only have themselves to blame if they lose.

>play Overwatch
>play like shit
>blame Blizzard for not buffing my hero and skills

Same goes for loadouts.
People want them because everyone wants to have the feel that they are a special snowflake and better than everyone else.

>What do you mean your game doesn't have customization?
>I don't care if you give me those 30 player models to choose from - I need CUSTOMIZATION

>>388337315
>slap some old movement tech on a cod clone
>add 3-4 projectile weapons
>add slow mechs to MUH FAST game
>GOTYAY WHY R U NOT FEELING THE SPEED ANON OMG BASED DEVS

Why do people like nu-DOOM?

It's not classic in any way.
It's a generic modern shooter which slaps some ''oldschool'' items into your face to give you the visual impression that you are playing an oldschool shooter. But the game itself is as casual and modern as things can get.

>linear level design
>''BUT IT ISN'T LINEAR!! THERE IS THAT ONE SMALL PATH WHICH HAS A DEAD END AND THERE IS AN EASTEREGG THERE THIS MAKES IT TOTALLY LIKE DUKE BUKEM 3D''

>Press X to kill shit
>GLORY KILLS ARE GREAT THIS GAME IS SO FUCKING BADASS

>everything drops ammo and health
>REWARDS FOR ME FOR PLAYING IT RIGHT = GOOD GAME

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oh look, it's
>LOOK AT ME I'M CONTROVERSIAL
guy being retarded again

>>388337761
>make a boring game fun
>can't you see it's just the boring game still!

>>388331969
>HL3 is kill
>golden age of FPS, guys!

>>388336868
>using yotsuba b
>calls me the pleb
Wew fucking lad

>>388338265
It's called playing devils advocate you dense motherfucker

>>388338639
>being contrary for the sake of being contrary/baiting
So all of /v/?

>>388338265
>Evan Lahti
>Lahti
I refuse to believe this person has any Finnish DNA.

>>388338639
Is he playing Devil's Avocado now too?

>>388338265
Is Evan Lathi the physical manifestation of /v/?

>>388338754
I'm sorry anon, no nation is perfect even if Finns are close.

Golden age of FPS was mid 90s to mid 2000s. Halo 3 and CoD 4 were the last hurrahs.

>>388338639
There is far more to being devils advocate than just being contrarian all the time.

>>388338748
It's called being contrary for the sake of debate

>>388332343
FPS has always been one of the dominant genres on the PC since the 90s
>but muh normies REEEE
Piss off, underage.

...I really like R6:Siege

>>388339037
Not him but normalfags are scum.

>>388338639
Actually, it's called being an autistic manchild.

>blizzard lootbox trash
>tera dev lootbox trash
>valve lootbox trash
>literally never heard of it
>refund floor 2
golden age baby, just like the 1930s

>>388338981
Why do they call it devil's advocate and not devil's lawyer? In Norway the translation is literally djevelens advokat, which translates to the devil's lawyer. What the fuck is an advocate?

>>388334626

It's decent but again, its levels are a bunch of pre-baked arenas stringed together in random fashion. Individual rooms might be great, but they don't form a coherent map. Not a fan of increasing the difficulty by fattening up monsters either.

>>388331969
Fuck no, the FPS market has never been shittier. In fact, there's nothing new right now that even appeals to me. All I want is some proper fucking Halo and that's damn near impossible to get these days.

>>388339402
Advocate means support a cause.
A lawyer supports their clients cause

>>388339402
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/devil-s-advocate?s=t

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>>388331969
>those listed games

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>>388338265

>>388339402
>>388339586
Probably a Latin thing from the Romans. In Spanish, lawyer is "abogado" which shares an origin with "advocate"

>>388332481
This. I really miss the Halo 3 era...

>>388331969

>golden age fps
Don't be fucking retarded

>multiplayer
Oh. Well, I don't know them. Are we? I prefer single player

I hate it when the title of an article misleads completely

>>388331969
>Games that have been out for years now
>MOBA FPS
>Doesn't even mention games like Rising Storm 2 which released this year
I don't understand.

>>388331969
No.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_H3MWVx6JU

>>388331969
Nah the genre is stuck in a hole that will never come out unless HL3 comes out, and that will NEVER EVER happen, so no golden age coming soon

>>388331969
WTF are they talking about? For well over 10 years now we have had an over abundance of FPS games. Ever since 2007 consoles have had a ton of FPS to pick from. This is beyond stupid of an article. FPS has been the most abundant genre in AAA gaming outside of very few other genres.

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>>388332481
>Tfw you remember when there were only 2 Saxton Hale servers in TF2 instead of a million.

>>388332239
>1st Person Shoot

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>>388331969
>Overwatch, PUBG, CS:GO, Quake Champion, Killing Floor 2

>>388331969
>PC GAMER
Wow shilling company number 1.

>>388331969
No, fps games are less violent and more tame and boring. Still waiting for a addicting shooter where you can shoot off the limbs of your enemy that are not zombies.

>>388331969
>overwatch

tf2 but for moba shitters

>pubg

nobody will care about this piece of shit after a better game comes out

>cs:go

shit controls, crouch to win, get headshot when some faggot appears behind you or around a corner and clearly got lucky

>quake
you cannot recreate the old days, ever.

>kf2

its fucking killing floor, you shoot zeds, thats fucking it. fun game but not something you play all day every day

so much for the "golden age". doom 2 mods are better than this shit.

>>388338579
He called you a game journalist, stop making shit up.

>>388335821
Gameplay based on player skill, high skill ceiling.
High enemy and environment variety.
Gave players ability to create their own content in aboundance
Go to /vr/doom - you will see mods and maps being made right before your eyes in real time.

With so many amazing Doom and Quake mods and maps made you have several years worth of top notch FPS content to play through. And then there are mods that are not amazing, but still good, and are miles above whatever modern trite industry is shitting out.


The only first person game I enjoyed in the last 2 years was Prey, and even that's more of a System Shock-y action adventure than FPS.

>>388331969

Meh it's all become very boring tbqh... Seems to me devs are far more concerned about their games getting a lot of coverage on Twitch and Youtube than actually making interesting and actually new stuff... Plus the whole gambling shit with the cases and keys and microtransactions just made those shooters unappealing to me because of the kind of toxic crowd it tends to aggregate.

People have no idea how to make good level design in an FPS game anymore. People stopped trying on that front somewhere around Jedi Outcast.

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show me a game as good as this or Time Splitters (Goldeneye is Perfect Dark 0.7 so it's also pointless)

>>388332247
>Mid-90's

You mean the age of endless crap Doom rip-offs? Those rose tinted glasses are looking a little too rosy there chum.

I admit, there IS more variety in FPS than there has been since the 90s.
Between the Battlefields, CoDs, PUBGs, Titanfalls, Quakes, and Overwatches; they're all pretty varied.
Varied doesn't equal good though.

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>>388331969

Golden age of first person shooters began with Doom and ended in 2005 with FEAR imo...

Everything after that got gradually shittier, with DLCs instead of expansions, Early Access instead of finished products and now micro transactions with cosmetics.

You really know you hit rock bottom when you sell people unfinished products and have to make a random drop system with micro transactions to keep people hooked to your games if it is to survive more than a couple of months...

>>388331969
Well I mean if we're talking multiplayer FPS golden age, maybe.

Overall though? lmao no

>>388331969
retards

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>>388331969
There hasn't been a good FPS since 2007.

>>388343474

I hope you don't mean Crysis.

>>388331969

>golden age of FPS

Maybe for people who enjoy playing barbie with guns...

>>388332702
>no way to punish camping

Literally every ultimate in Overwatch and has the express purpose of making the game more dynamic by breaking up camping (except the teleporter).

Rainbow Six Siege is an entire game built around giving one team tools for camping and the other team tools to break up camping.

Titanfall and Titanfall 2 break up camping with ridiculously powerful giant robots and giving points for going out and killing NPCs.

Doom solves camping the way old all the school FPS' did: powerups and a (relatively) long time-to-kill.

Literally the only modern FPS' with camping problems are Call of Casuals and Battleshit because those devs haven't updated their gameplay since the XBox released. They've got cutting edge season passes and loot crate stores though.

>we're in an FPS golden age
>said every company that put microtransactions to make it P2W so kids are gonna spend more to customize what they want (or to enjoy the game)

>>388332902
No there isn't, the core design of the game is flawed and not fun. It's not about it being unbalanced, or not enough maps, or whatever. It is shit through and through

>>388344097
battlefield solved camping with RPG's and grenades A LOT OF GRENADES of any kind
doesn't really work on some maps though the sniping hillniggers are always going to find a way

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>>388332481
>cod4
>not WaW

>>388337646
If it's popular, /v/ hates it, every time without fail. Bonus loathing if it's kinda good.

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geee why am i not surprised, it's the clickbiating troll writer

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>tfw play insurgency
its so lonely in our little community. We'll get a sequal soon but it will still be a small comfy place.

>>388345585

Considering it's Unreal Engine IV and also being primarily made for consoles it might suck though.

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>>388331969
1996 to 2001 was the golden age of first person shooters.

>>388337646
To be fair, fps games have gotten much better over the past few years compared to the period where they were all just Halo or COD clones.

>>388344318
The core of the game is flawed, but it's not 100% dog shit.

>>388344750
Your logic is dumb because there are games /v/ hates that aren't all that popular. Also, you make it sound like /v/ is one person. This is some cavemen level logic.

>>388336716
>Nu doom
>dull
Not exactly goty but it certainly isn't dull.

>>388338037
its a nice serious sam clone and i love ss.

>>388346394
It's pretty dull.

>>388331969
This is the industrial age of FPS. Everything is mass produced garbage.

>>388346420
I'd say Painkiller successor more than Sam, but I agree with your sentiment.

>>388346420
SS doesn't have scripted sequences and corridor levels

SS throws you into huge areas with shitloads of enemies and you unleash all kinds of weapons on the hordes.
That is the appeal of SS.

The appeal of nu-DOOM is nostalgia pandering in the way that the game throws old designs and ideas into your face without actually making use of anything.

It's like TFA Star Wars.

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Ahem.

>>388333738
It pretty much is. Early Access is the death warrant. There has yet to be proof tot he contrary.

>>388346445
For you.

>>388331969
What FPS is better than F.E.A.R.?

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>>388332481
CoD4 was the game that eviscerated the FPS genre. Overwatch merely provided the killing blow.

>>388338807
Evan literally went the costumer is always right on every single debate.

Is this truly your golden age PC gamers? Is PC Gamer wrong?

>>388338976
Anything Halo or CoD is removed. Slow fucking shits.

>>388331969
Fuck no.
It's still a bunch of multiplayer only trash, and while it has more variety than a couple years ago, it's still all remarkably samey and derivative.

>>388331969

>multiplayer fps golden age

Oh come on now...

People in the early 00's, and I'm 29, played Quake 3, UT99, Half Life, TFC, CS, DOD, BF1942, OFP, Desert Combat, AVP2, MOHAA, Vietcong, Delta Force, SWAT3, SoF, Ghost Recon, Rogue Spear, Jedi Knight 2, Raven Shield, Hidden&Dangerous 2 ect.. with of course shit loads of mods I'm forgetting...

All we've been getting past god knows how many years are meme shooters force fed to us by YT/Twitch content creators.

>>388331969
Nothing really changed in the genre for the past decade.

>>388340228
There were several, actually. Just some of them had a lot of MLP and G-Mod meme characters
I'm assuming you're talking about the TFF (Team Fortress with Friends)?

Call me when they make an FPS I want to play.

>>388332395
How is it unoriginal? What other game allows me to fight dozens of other players in an ever shrinking open zone until only one is left?

>>388346628
>SS doesn't have scripted sequences and corridor levels
First Encounter and BFE actually do have a decent amount of what you would consider corridor levels.
And while the game lacks the enemy numbers of SS, Doom makes up for it with enemies being more individually imposing with more interesting movement patterns, a lack of any hitscan whatsoever, and combat arenas that offer more vertical movement than Sam's. While I prefer TSE over Doom 2016, I had a great deal of fun with it.

There hasn't been a good fps in 10 years.

>>388332690
stop avatarfagging

>>388346667
TOO BAD THE COMMUNITY IS RUINED BY REDDIT AND ESPORTS PLEBS.

>>388335347
>cowadoody+some movement options
wow

>>388335778
UK has actual taste in shooters since they have an actual PC gaming culture over there. Arena shooters are still a thing in Europe, unlike in 'Murica where appealing to Trump-voting, pro-war dudebros and drowning the public in Taco Bell advertising money gets you success over word of mouth and quality of product.

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>>388331969
How come there aren't that many Open World FPS games outside of Far Cry?
I think that subgenre of FPS has potential...

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>>388331969
>bored with most modern FPS
>play timesplitters future perfect with friends this week
>do co-op and challenges
>probably going to play again tonight
>actually having fun and laughing

RIP Free Radical.

>>388331969
no the golden age ended about 10 years ago

>>388336716
Play Serious Sam on max difficulty then come back and say that, CS kiddie.

>>388331969
arena shooters were the golden age, then counter-strike blew up and sent us into the dark age which continues to this day.

the new Unreal tournament is good it just needs to be given the CSGO treatment with matchmaking and skins and shit, instant e-sport arena shooter since it actually takes skill

AVP2 really needs to be released on steam that game was fun as fuck

the only fps golden age was from mid-late 90s to early-mid 2000s

>>388346628
>It's like TFA Star Wars.
Does that make DOOM 3 the prequels? Sounds about right.

>>388347598
time splitters should come to pc

>>388331969
Nah, it's actually the golden age of micro-transactions bullshit though.

>>388332343
FPS will always be the best game genre

I'd kill for a new keycard hunting maze fps game, I'd pay for any dlc that added new chapters or maps or whatever

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>>388338265
>the nu-male is always the wrong one.
It's like potpurri.

>>388332690
Thank god for that.

Right now I feel like we are in the dark ages of video games. Almost every company now is shady money grabbing kikes that feature their games with lootboxes and preorder bonuses. Not to mention there are political activists trying to influence the industry by forcing game development restrictions and diversity quotas. It's also very apparent that the volume of games released per year have been decreasing.

It's not a golden age, it's a dark age.

>>388347492
Fallout 4 squandered it by being shit.

>>388348069

I think there's that fan game 'Rewind' but I don't know of anything else. It has been a while since I've even checked that so I don't even know if it is still being worked on.

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>>388348176
Dusk will make you happy when it comes out in full.

dirty bomb is pretty good

>>388331969
No. The FPS golden age ended in 2007.

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>>388331969
>Golden Age

>Half Life is dead
>Halo is dead
>Unreal Tournament is dead
>Battlefield 1 wasn't quite as good as 4, and neither approached BC2
>Battlefront was shit
>CoD is always shit
>lists shitty meme games like Overwatch to prove the point


Y-yeah.. Golden age alright.

We're in a market where any game that has a gun is an Overwatch clone.
This isn't a fps golden age.

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>>388331969
That imagine makes me angry enough as it is. I can only imagine what it would be like looking at the comments fellating this atrocity of an "opinion", knowing that those kinds of people far outnumber us.
Anyone here willing to venture to the section and enlighten it with a redpilled voice of reason?

>>388331969

no, they arent.

>>388331969
I'm still waiting for an fps hybrid that can hold a candle to Natural Selection, so no. There are still no fps moba hybrids that truly work well. There is currently no populated game with interesting and innovative skill based movement that pushes the genre forward. I think we're still waiting for the next big thing in competitive fps games.

>>388348176
I want one that has Q3 rocketjumping without self damage, where it's kinda like a rocketjumping platformer.

>>388348323
I disagree. This is not a dark age. The dark age will be when all the developers realize that mobile is low cost for possibly high gains and they all flood that cesspool even more.

>>388348721
Overwatch was the original fps.

>>388347492
They kinda suck

>>388346667
As much as I love Siege its a textbook example of why devs shouldn't listen to Reddit or other online communities word for word and should only use them for feedback that affects a certain % of decision making when it comes to balance and content.
Listening to Reddit 100% is why the game is in its current state.

>>388331969
>the volume and variety of first-person shooters has never been greater
the quality, however, has never been lower

>>388347692
hold back and strafe in your preferred direction, and you're good to go

>>388349020
>has never been lower
Wrong. 2007 to about 2013-14 was worse, when everything was COD

>>388331969
Only an absolute casual would think anything post 2007 is a golden age.

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https://youtu.be/vuNN1D-FCjs?t=266
Updated version of this speech for the upcoming Darker Age of shooters that Overwatch is providing for us when?

>>388331969
No. We're in a drought. That's why everyone is just playing pubg.

Cod, battlefield, unreal tournament, quake, halo, and doom are just cadavers being hung like puppets pretending to be alive

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FPS glory days for me ended well over a decade ago.
Maybe a younger generation things the shit they play these days is better, an who knows maybe it is but I really can't say I give enough of a shit beyond punching out the words in the post.

Post songs that encapsulate your rage ATCM:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrDtX_mQq8U

>>388349382
This

Come on, no has even made a game with a qt female protagonist where you can look down and see your tits bounce as you run or fire your gun. Devs are too lazy or too afraid to make something as innovative as this.

>>388349575
Tear down the walls
Wake up the world
Ignorance is not
bliss
So fed up with the second best
Our time
is here and now

I am the enemy
I am the antidode
Watch me closely
I will stand up
now!

We will rise
above
We will rise

Stereotype fools
Playing the game
Nothing unique
They all look the same
In a sea of mediocrity
I can be anything
Anything I want to be

I am the enemy
I am the antidode
Watch me closely
I will stand up
now!

We will rise
above
We will rise

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>>388348872
I wouldn't say that.
Games like Dying Light are fantastic.
Also, people on this board and /vg/ love STALKER to death.

>>388331969
Who the fuck plays FPS anymore. Golden age was 2000's.

>>388349575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD48lpUR6rA

insurgency's maps aren't big enough and the servers don't have enough players to make it fun

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>playing Titanfall 2, PUBG, Quake Champions, R6Siege, and Dirty Bomb on cycle
>playing Doom and Prey for chill time
>mfw /v/ tells me FPS is dying
you faggots just don't like shooters is all. quit pretending you care

>>388349985
i still play quakeworld and quake 2

>>388345869
I want a real quake 1 or 2 remake, 4 was shit

>>388350182
4 is good especially with q4max
its a faster paced Q3

>>388350113
This. It's by no means a golden age, but it's better than it has been for quite a while now.

>>388348468
I thought this was more quake 1 than it was doom?

The golden age of FPS was from Doom to Quake 2.

Silver age is when CS dominated

Now we're on the bronze age with team FPS games doing this whole "collect drops for rare shit" nonsense.

But honestly NOTHING beats Doom2 Level 1 LAN party.

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>FPS Golden Age
>Tribes is dead

>>388349559
op4ctf was the shit, no idea why valve took it out when it came to steam

>>388350441
midair my dude
also there are still tribes 1 and 2 pickups

>>388350275
ya and quake 3's weapons sucked shit compared to 2

>>388347598
>play Perfect Dark and Future Perfect
>can't touch regular FPSs anymore because they're so boring
fuck

>>388332386
>>388335468

Imagine what it's like being dumb like these two

>>388350113
>fps is my favorite genre
>"you just dont like shooters"

>>388350441
http://store.steampowered.com/app/439370

im cautiously optimistic. im giving it time

>>388340121
>you can be
>whatever you want when you're hiiiiighhh
DUDE

>>388346823
swap duke nukem forever and painkiller and I'll agree

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Decision time:
http://www.strawpoll.me/13794827

>not a single worthwhile fps is actually being played and people settle for casual garbage as long as they have teams to blame
mm golden guns in ow now easier 2get at least they sure know their audience

>>388350113
>you faggots just don't like shooters is all.
Watch the video in >>388349272, retard.

>blizzard ruined MMOs with WoW
>now they ruined FPSs with Overwatch
If I could delete one gaming company, then I would probably choose Blizzard. At least EA only killed companies.

>>388349272
For those too lazy to click the link:
>After I declared Battlefield 3 and Modern Warfare as The Twin Bollock Lords of Shit Mountain, there were dissenting voices dismissing my opinion on the basis that I just don't like shooters. Oh you ignorant little bastards! Stick your balls up your arse and clench yourself castrated! I was into shooters while you were sucking on Wii-motes, you cover-loving, health-regenerating murderer-come-latelies. You don't even know what a shooter is! A shooter is fast-paced, circle-strafing, wits-about-you, rocket-jumping, last scrap of health, toodly fuckpies organic excitement in a fancy hat! It is not riding a conveyor belt to the next chest-high wall and resting your head on it until you get lulled into a lovely little sleep by other people's gunfire.
Somebody write a version that applies to Overjunk and its cronies since I can't be bothered.

>>388351423
At least they only killed multiplayer games.
Look what Bethesda and Bioware did to the RPG genre.

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If older games are better why aren't more people playing them?

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>>388351728
Because they don't have marketing campaigns behind them, idiot.

>>388350871
>hating on painkiller
Honestly, I respect that you had the courtesy to spoiler that spicy opinion, but I want to know what could drive you to that conclusion.

>>388331969
PCGAMER ARE KEKS

>>388351728
Shit's old.

Who would people want to fuck more, your fresh 16 year old version of your mom, or 50 year old version of your mom?

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>>388350903
>People are seriously thinking that in 2007 when every single FPS game was an edgy, brown and bloom, health regening, cover hiding, defend the burger town, don't forget to aim down your sights, CoD clone is somehow better than now when we have some variety and colour in the games that are released.

Overwatch, Quake Champions, PUBG, RS6 Siege, nuDoom, that's already vastly more variety than the last 10 years of dogshit that we had. Some of these games ACTUALLY require teamwork and some level of skill.

KEKS

>>388352192
lowest quality post of this thread

>>388352192
It's people being contrarians. We'll see vast amounts of unironic love for modern military shooters on this board within the next few years.

>>388352143
That's a really bad analogy.

>>388352192
I like the artstyle changes, Overwatch LOOKS fantastic, but teamwork based FPS are cancer. I don't want to rely on fucking randoms, and getting groups of friends to goonsquad ranked feels dirty to me. I just want games where people's ranking reflects their skill level, not how many goons they group with.

>>388352504
Well you'll be happy to know that in OW your ranking is heavily influenced by your individual performance.

>>388350903
I'm no fan of Overwatch but I'll take something that has a bit more character to it than HOORA WE'RE THE FUCKIN MARINES from 2008-2012.

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>>388352382
>people will start to love generic boring brown shooters

People hate both.
Overmeme cancer doesn't make you miss Medal of Honor TM

That's as retarded as thinking that not liking dog poop as food means that you love drinking catpiss.

What people want is original ideas or atleast fair and square skillbased shooters without any gacha/crate pay2win / hat garbage / loadout inside them.

>>388352429
so bad its good.

>>388352696
And you're fine to hate both if that's your view, but at least the market today has something resembling variety. The COD era had two flavors of garbage, (Modern military or Halo) and the second one was in the process of dying.

>>388352681
>wanting flash over substance
at least those modern military shooters were about shooting your guns and stuff and not filled with press one button to win ability and wallhacks/aimbots

>>388348197

They are all nu-males except maybe the long hair one. Maybe if they didn't pose with those ebin reaction faces for underage youtube kids i could look at them and see something else.

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>>388352192
>having more colors in your game is more important than having faster movement, actual resource management and map control and a higher skill ceiling

>>388331969
nope, every single one of the games they mentioned is garbage, how can we possibly be in a fps golden age without a single good arena shooter?

>>388331969
>waityou'rebeingseriousletmelaughevenhardertbhsmhfam.png

>>388353023
battleborne had tons of colour and it became GOTY

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>>388352653
But it doesn't? Rank is determined by whether the team you're on wins or loses a match.

No. The only good shooters out right now are PUGB, Arma 3 and Overwatch.

We haven't had a good (see no jetpacks) COD in years and Halo died.

Its not as bad as the 90's with all those shit ass shooters but we aren't good like mid 2000's.

>>388352653
>Well you'll be happy to know that in OW your ranking is heavily influenced by your individual performance.

>>388352939
>press one button to win ability
All you did was center your screen and push a button, even early access shit like Quake Champions is better than that.
>>388353023
>Implying Batllefield and COD were fast and required actual resource management.

>>388350602
The a/an rule is based on pronunciation of the next word not the literal letter. When it comes to abbreviations you're not making the same sound as if you're saying the word. Learn how english works.

>>388352893
I'll take two flavors of piss over five flavors of shit.

>>388347130
Every single hunger games mod ever

>>388353181
>No. The only good shooters out right now are PUGB, Arma 3 and Overwatch.
this is actually the opinion of some people

>>388353307
And I'd take five flavors of piss over two of shit.

>>388350903
the age of overwatch because arena fps and other games i liked were still alive up until around 2010 or so

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>when you hear the sound of the actual golden age of fps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0pStxKAI_A

>>388351450
console players can't aim up lol

>>388347130
you do know this is literally the fourth time the head of that game has worked on and released the same game right?

>>388351215
>taking yahtzee opinions at face value
that casual shithead puts on the very same front /v/ does to make their opinions seem more valid by praising arena shooters while having not actually played them. only difference is that he gets paid to do it.
his MH3 "review" should tell you all there is to know about him

>>388332702
>toxic

>>388353241
>All you did was center your screen and push a button
And Overwatch's button presses remove even the "center your screen" part.
Also I hope you're not using that to describe something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7wtkfQgsJg

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>>388331969
>pc gamer

>>388353405

quake 3 engine was the shit

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>>388352893
> the market today has something resembling variety.

Only on the surface.
The end product is the same shit.

Oldschool in the way of Unreal or Quake is not a thing today.
And there are no generic brown bloom anti.muslim-anti,russian shooters anymore. Instead of that everything is HEROES;SKILLS;CRATES

Battlefront has that.
Overwatch has that.
Battlefield and Call of Duty partly took those things in as well despite being massive figureheads of the industry who don't really need it..
Garbage like Battleborn, Quake Heroes or Lawbreakers also heavlily hug those things.

And Killing Floor which was its own niche went that as well with Killing Floor 2.

All of those will tell you that they are not copying Overwatch or anything else using crates/whatever but it is obvious that they do and there are plenty of people who are just sick of it.
There is a reason why heavily market garbage like Lawbreakers bomb hard.

The market is full - Full with this shit
Stop claiming your apple is a banana.
It tastes like a banana and looks like a banana.
Your apple not selling doesn't mean that there is no demand for bananas.

>>388353559
>Also I hope you're not using that to describe something like this:
I'm clearly describing modern military shooters like Call of Duty.

>>388331969
Everything on that list is multiplayer only. I only play fps when they have worth while single player campaigns.

>>388353514
yahtzee despises online shooters and doesn't like quake
i remember when he shat on demon's souls before souls games were popular then flip flopped

>>388353559
fps need more obstacles

>>388353252
I suppose the argument to be made is whether or not you should read "FPS" as First Person Shooter or Eff Pee Ess, which could go either way, especially when spoken out loud.

>>388353637
at least in those you aim. not just press Q to collect your kills.

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>>388353023
Nigger if that's all you got from my post then you need to go back to school. I literally mentioned skill and movement.

>>388352192
You are the reason why people don't take gaming seriously. Fuck off back to your cartoony looking MOBA in first person. Every game these days looks like Vaseline was rubbed on everything, and there are less polygons today than there was ten years ago. Gears of War, a game from 2006, has more polygons than Overwatch a game from 2016. Let that sink right in.

>>388331969
I'm definitely enjoying it, though there are some multiplayer titles I wish had more players

living in Australia is suffering

>overwatch - MOBA
>PUBG - not first person
>quake champions - MOBA
>killing floor - bad game

no this is not yhe golden age!

>>388353853
>He needs to have his interests validated
>He thinks polycounts matter.

There's plenty good games if you're willing to play games that have smaller communities.
Tons of people won't even bother giving games like titanfall 2 a chance because their numbers don't rival the most popular games on the market.

>>388332481
nah 1942/cs1.6 was a better era

>>388353853
>You are the reason why people don't take gaming seriously.
Is that supposed to be a bad thing?
People like you that screech about grafics and seek some form of validity are what's killing video games

>>388353405
www.etlegacy.com

>>388354010
How the fuck is Overwatch and QC even remotely in the same genre as LoL and DotA?

>>388353767
If you wanted people to think First Person Shooter over Eff Pee Ess than you just type out First Person Shooter.

>>388354130
Shhh don't make him think about his opinion. He might say more stupid unarguable horseshit

>>388331969
No. We're in the oversaturated age. Most FPS we've been getting is shit right now

The golden age of FPS was the late 90s, and the absolute torrential glut of mods that followed Half-Life.
Before that were a metric ton of Doom clones, on an array of different systems, but even public domain games reached nowhere near the extent and variety of Half-Life mods.

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>>388354130
They aren't

>>388354530
the best half-life mods were spiritual sequels to quake mods

Let's see how this gaming cancer developed over time:

Warcraft III (The mother of the cancer) -> DOTA mod (The original sin) -> League of Legends (The big cancer from which all bad things spread) -> RTS as a genre dying for MOBA as the first consequence because why make RTS when you can make MOBA -> Valve gets the idea to put that system into shooters and starts with TF2 doing it -> From there on it spreads to other Valve games and while they are successfull they do not effect the overall market -> Overwatch successfully brings MOBA cancer into a different genre which is like AIDS moving from monkeys to humans -> That being a success leads to the death of shooters due to everyone copying that model

Funny really.
Not only did Blizzard kill MMOs with WoW - They also killed RTS and Shooters with Warcraft.

>>388354874
i can only name like 1 rts to release in the past 3 years, grey goo. im not a big rts fan, but that is kind of sad.

blizzard is far bigger of a villain than EA

>>388354123
There is such thing as "too much creativity"
Having a rolling standard to increase the fidelity of video games is important because immersion can always be improved.
>>388354130
Maybe if the faggots playing these "FPS"es didn't use words like "kit" and "loot box" and "RNG", maybe the two audiences wouldn't have disputes.
>>388354530
Sorry, no, but the golden age was the aughts. Think of it this way, you could still play your 90's shooters, but you also had the plethora of amazing aughts shooters, without the garbage that came in the 10's.

>>388355070
>i can only name like 1 rts to release in the past 3 years

that's because you don't really follow video game development

>>388355070
EA are garbage because they eat and kill great studios with great people

Blizzard are a destroyer of worlds.

It's a complete different level.

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>>388331969
>there are people who believe CS:GO is the best Counter Strike

>>388355162
What an entirely vapid set of opinions

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>>388331969
>t. started playing FPS games in 2015

TF2 is dead and replaced by a poorly balanced shitfest.
The entire "hero shooter" genre.
COD and BF decided to do something other than a modern or futuristic game and they still play the same.
Battlefront is trash.
nu UT will never ever be finished.
There are only a handful of good single-player FPS games.

Early 2000 was the true golden age.

>>388354239
Maybe, but the abbreviation is more useful when typed compared to when spoken. I would be surprised to see First Person Shooter typed out at all.

Either way, "an FPS" is right when spoken, and I would say either "a" or "an" could be considered appropriate when typed. Although my opinion is simply my opinion.

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first person as a medium has already evolved beyond floaty wasd shooty faggotry shit

modern shooters of every single variety are absolute tripe

>>388336682
It's rather sad to see how these posts don't get you mocked off the board anymore

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>>388331969
The golden age left as soon as it arrived

>>388355434
>tf2 is dead
its chugging along the same as it has for years

>>388355765
ascend never came close to t1 or t2 classic

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>>388331969
>FPS Golden Age
>Overwatch exists

>>388355765
>ascendbabbies think they had it good

>>388353559
This vid shows just how badly QC fucked up. All they're doing is losing their old audience without catering to a new one.

>>388353853
>realistic artstyles
>not the very bottom of the barrel
>being so new you don't even remember how this board endlessly shat all over brown&bloom milsims

>>388355930
Yeah well Daikatana was released just 5 months after Quake 3.

It's certainly in a vastly better spot than the modern b&b milsim galore during the last half decade or so

>>388356515
daikatana is more fun than quake 3 so i'm not sure what point you're trying to make here