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SSB Goku and Vegeta gameplay trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wDCTKTjB_k
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>super
and into the trash this game goes.
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MASTER LIST OF POTENTIAL CHARACTERS:

*Characters listed from their initial appearance, of course including later stuff.
*This only takes into account moveset quantity(including transformations and potential support stuff), not moveset uniqueness.
*Moveset source must be manga for DB/DBZ(primarily) and anime for OVA/Specials/Filler/Movies/GT/Super. Games are complementary only.
*Being able to fly(in some way) and fire ki blasts(this doesn't mean having a dedicated ki button) is a requirement until a character that doesn't have either or both gets in.
*Yeah, lots of Super characters have potential, but they must first show more moves.

DB:
-Kid Goku(flight with Nimbus)
-Yamcha
-Roshi(flight with Gamera)
-Tien
-King Piccolo
-Base Goku

DBZ:
-Kid Gohan
-Nappa
-Base Vegeta
-Zarbon
-Ginyu
-Recoome
-19
-17
-Imperfect Cell
-Future Gohan
-Dabura
-Majin Vegeta
-Super Buu
-Gotenks
-Ultimate Gohan
-Vegito
-Kid Buu

TV Specials/OVAs:
-Bardock

Anime Filler:
-Pikkon

Movies:
-Turles
-Lord Slug
-Cooler
-Meta Cooler
-13
-Broly
-Bojack
-Janemba
-Gogeta

GT:
-Pan
-SS4 Goku
-Majuub
-Baby Vegeta
-Super 17
-Nuova Shenron
-Omega Shenron

Super:
-Beerus
-Hit
-Black
-Merged Zamasu
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>>388332053
Don't start. Around half of the franchise in general is only good for the video games to make cooler.
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>>388332520
They haven't announced Cooler
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>>388331927
First time I've signed up for a beta, first time I've felt "hyped" for a game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBxfnC4fX6c
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>>388332496
90% of everything about Bardock's fighting style comes from the video games I swear.
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>>388331927
Try the new dragonball game, with all 19 of your favourite characters including:
>goku
>kaio-ken goku
>super saiyan goku
>super saiyan second grade goku
>super saiyan third grade goku
>super saiyan full power goku
>super saiyan 2 goku
>strengthened super saiyan 2 goku
>super saiyan 3 goku
>spirit bomb super saiyan goku
>super saiyan 4 goku
>fully powered super saiyan 4 goku
>super kaio-ken goku
>super saiyan god goku
>super saiyan beyond god goku
>super saiyan god super saiyan goku
>super saiyan god super saiyan kaio-ken goku
>super saiyan god super saiyan 10X kaio-ken goku
>krillin
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>>388333342
not anymore, the OVA gave him a full moveset and maybe a SS install
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>>388333659
>No kid Goku and Piccolo Jr Saga Goku
Shit game.
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>>388333659
I actually Base and SS4, plus Majin and Base Vegeta
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>>388333776
>tfw Bardock before the OVA would've been a great option for a Great Ape install
>Now he'll get Super Saiyan which he has never done in canon just because it's cool
This is why I want Nappa. Just one non-Super Saiyan is good, and he's unique enough from the others.
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>>388335474
Bardock is in anon, probably DLC

his SS install is a LV3 and permanent
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>>388331927
no chadhan no buy
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>>388335627
I don't doubt that he will be. He'd sell quite well as DLC. I just want Oozaru to show up somehow, and I think just using a generic one would piss off Kid Goku fans.

I also generally want Nappa. I already have a full team from the characters we know, so I want to hope for C-Tier characters like Nappa and Roshi until release.
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All I need is Yamcha in this game.
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>>388335878
Mystic Gohan being in is guaranteed, he's too big of a deal to not be. He's been in nearly every single game since his apparition in the manga.
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>>388335995
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I really like dragon ball super so I hope they add Hit and Black
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Post your biggest outside hope making it in, and why.

>pic related

Imagine the move set.

>command grab face grab ki blast.
>command counter grab of "leg break"
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>>388336970
Also forgot the throat grab.
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>>388336630
I don't care much about Super but I think they're both likely and I think they'll be fun to play from what I know of their techniques.

It'll also be fun to see people get mad at another Goku even when he'll play pretty much nothing like the other Gokus.
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Super or kid buu?
Which would you want and which is more likely?
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>>388337087
Also, why is it that none of the demo videos include someone using M Buu, despite him clearly on the roster?
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I made one for Goku Black using only stuff from the manga.

>>388337087
I prefer Kid
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>>388336071
I think the characters that have to be in have already made it in. I think Arc is going to choose characters that they can make interesting movesets for. For instance.

>Metacooler
>Broly
>Hit
>Janemba
>Maybe Goku Black, or his Combination with Zamasu
>Beerus
>Whis
>Dr Gero
>Ginyu
I think there's going to be more than a few from that list as crazy as it sounds, but there's a lot they could do with those characters.
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>>388337198
People wanted to use the new characters, and of the original 6 Buu is the least intuitive with his weird normals and gameplay sort of revolving around frame traps and controlling space mid-range.
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>Potential moveset for Dabura
Tell me if you want the same thing for an other character.
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>>388332496
I'll be happy as long as my boy Vegito is in.
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>>388337513
>Gero
>Whis
>Hit
Good taste, except you said Meta Cooler
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>>388337603
Give me Tokusentai gdi
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>>388337637
What's wrong with Meta-Cooler?
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>>388337818
His final form is cooler and more distinct looking
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>>388337603
Do Gotenks
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>>388337221
waste of effort, Super stuff will use the anime
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>>388337889
Meta-Cooler has significantly better moveset potential while still looking pretty distinct though.
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>>388338168
Literally shiny Hit without the trenchcoat
I would like a tentacle reap move though
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>>388338045
The game uses both the anime and manga in general, right? Trunks is doing some anime-only stuff
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>>388338045
They use both anime and manga but I just wanted to see how it would come out if they used the manga. Personally I hope he has the head slam.
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>>388337087
I'd prefer Super Buu, but Kid Buu's definitely getting in over him. Super Buu would have some interesting play based on not only his standard moveset but also absorption. But since the story goes well into Super, I doubt they'd be willing to go with the time to craft a proper Super Buu. Kid Buu gives you similar moves (minus absorption stuff) on a faster, smaller body. Seems like a lock to me, and I wouldn't mind too much in the end.
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Recoome when?
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>>388337603
Ultimate Gohan, please. Anime/manga moveset. One for Tenshinhan would be cool as well.
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>>388331927
>Not listening to Whis and calling it SSB

You had 1 fucking job nips.
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Give me a DBZ character to model.
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>>388338650
The tall, red head mohawk quota is already filled m8
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>>388338846
Mr Satan. He deserves it.
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>>388339135
regular, bojack movie, gt or super satan?
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>>388339248
Regular, please.
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>>388337603
you missed the Majin Buu anime fight stuff
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>>388338327
>Literally shiny Hit
my sides
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>>388338168
I hate the Meta Cooler design.

They have to go with the most iconic form of Cooler.
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>>388339398
Okay, on it.
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>>388338327
>>388339753
>>388337889
Wrong, not a whole lot you can do with final form cooler. He didn't really do anything substantial as for as interesting in his movie. Meta did, and we don't have any other robot characters that started out as biomass. Meta would be a much better choice for this game if for anything else much more distinct fighting style.
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>>388339881
>Blender
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>>388336970
future gohan
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>>388340025
This same anon made a Hit head in previous threads, it looked pretty good.
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>>388332053
SSGSSB is a Dragon Ball Z form. Didn't you see the two canon DBZ movies?
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Kinda want ripped broly.
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>>388336970
I have a couple, like Jackie Chun, Tao Pai Pai, etc, but this guy would be super cool from a visual standpoint. We're talking outside hopes, right? I guess this would be my pick.

Imagine the moveset? Just watch this. He'd probably get some movement options from his GT counterpart as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7ZA6hwvoIU
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Best written DB characters:

1.- F. Trunks
2.- Bardock
3.-Zamas/Black
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>>388337221

>Using Manga Blacuck instead of Anime Black

No
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>>388340618
>Zamasu/Black
>Well-written
Well-characterized, but in terms of motivation and how they were defeated, poorly-written.
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>>388337720

Maybe Ginyu will be added a lá Android 18 with 17
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>>388340618
>3.-Zamas/Black
Top kek he's a shit character
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>>388331927
is dragon ball where that "let's fight with our forearms" shit comes from in shonen? that shit looks painful
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>>388337603
Do Yamcha
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>>388340082
Using the Kaioken in this form is not a DBZ form, though, nor is Vegeta's super.
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>>388340342
The counterpart of GT Gogeta is literally Vegito tho, its the same fucking character. They even fucked that up
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>>388340836
>>388340765

Literally only villain of the series that has a different motivation than HURR DURR IM EVIL AND WANNA CONQUER THE WORLD/BE STRONG AS FUCK
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>>388340618
Is this a Joke?
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>>388340941
Vegito doesn't behave like Gogeta, though. Gogeta was super cocky against Omega, while Vegito stayed composed against Buu.
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>>388340829
No shit, that's what people have been saying for a while now
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>>388341039
>motivation
Butthurt Goku beat him in a sparring match, so pretty much Broly tier.
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>>388341039
Frieza
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>>388333342
bardock would be the perfect character to do as a charge now that i think about it.
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>>388340025
I'll never understand the hate for blender.

Ontopic: Has any of the music been recorded from the game yet?
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>>388341206

Goku memeing Zamasu was the drop that spilled the glass, but he was mad towards ningens a long time ago
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>>388341089
Now compare that to Fusion reborn Gogeta, GT Gogeta is basically Super/Z Vegito in comparision
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>>388331927
For me it is too chaotic. Many times I can't even distinguish what is happening on the screen.
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I know everyone wants Kid Buu, but I think Super Buu could be pretty interesting as a stance change character

Plus I just think he looks cooler
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>>388341083
Was just wondering this myself. Fucking what.
>people riding filler-trash nuts like zamasu and goku wears black instead of orange

Everyone knows the most well written character is Jaco.
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>>388341369
Gogeta in Fusion Reborn had two lines, there's not a whole lot to compare.
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>>388341359
Wrong, he pretty much says to Trunks if he hadn't saved Goku in the Cell saga all of this shit wouldn't be happening.
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>>388341395
>it is too chaotic
MAHVEL BABY

FUCK THE TAITANS
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>>388341320
yo why's it look like his head is moving slowly toward me
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>>388341427
I just don't understand how anything would radically change with other buu options. He had the human extinction attack, and slightly more mature appearing in the way he fights, but seriously?
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>>388338361
SSB is using anime only stuff so I doubt we'll see Manga Black (or Manga Merged Zamasu with the portals). Shame too, because I actually like Manga Black as a sort of "canon" Broly.
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One of the highlights of the series is characters blocking attacks at high speeds, is possible to do that here?

Because all I see here are characters getting over 30 hit combos so easily
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This game would be 100x times better if it was 1v1, prove me fucking wrong.
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>>388341427
I forgot, but why didn't Super Buu want to become Kid Buu again?
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>>388341696
There's plenty of 1v1 Dragon Ball games if you want that, fucker.
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Would Final Form Cooler have a Bionic-Arm esque special that just I-frames through beam supers?
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>>388337221
No way they aren't using the SSR weapon moveset for the game. That's the main thing that makes him stand out.
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>>388336970
Because she's my favorite and I miss her.
There is no lack of reasons why she wouldn't get in so it's more of a fantasy than a hope.
It's sort of hard to find a character I wouldn't be excited for in this game, as long as the roster is robust I'm a-ok.
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>>388341748
no one wants to be a manlet
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>>388341696

Looks like someone hasn't played a team fighter.
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>>388341039
That's true, and the fact that it was vague and didn't really reflect how he went about things was wasted potential.

It should've been "I'm going to relieve this Universe of the disease of mortality. They will thank me from Other World while the Kais create utopia. I will create a precedent that Zeno will see and choose to apply to all Universes. Those who stand in my way shall be eliminated through less peaceful means."

In practice he was "FUCKING NINGEN JUST DIE MY VAGUE IDEALS REQUIRE ME TO KILL YOU, FILTHY FUCKING SAIYANS"

Black and Zamasu were fun characters, but their endgame was vague and inconsistent.
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>>388337613
blue vegito > base vegito > ss vegito
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>>388341696
Didn't they confirm that it'd have a 1v1 mode? Someone confirm that I'm not talking out of my ass please, I'm not sure.
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>>388341748
Super Buu had an actual functioning brain and some semblance of conscience. Kid Buu is just pure evil who doesn't give a shit at all about anything and just wants to blow shit up.
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>>388341515

And that was around 14 years before Goku BTFOs Zamasu
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>>388341901
They've confirmed the 6-Player mode where each player controls one character, but no 1v1.
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>>388337221
combine anime and manga for zamasu/black and merged zamasu
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>>388341748
Because he was much stronger as super buu then kid buu. Kid buu isn't much stronger than majin buu, difference is kid buu is just an insane attack dog. Majin was a child, and Super was intelligible as an adult.
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>>388338650
man i miss well choreographed dbz fights
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>>388341824

Merged Zamasu kinda does that when he cries like a bitch vs Vegitto
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>>388341956
Goddamn I can't wait to try the 6-player mode.
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Kid Buu a cute
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>>388341824
Their endgame was stupid as fuck.
>HAHAHAHAHAH I AM A FUCKING CLOUD I WIN

Literally so badly written they removed him with a portable red button that they all just kind of agreed to press at the end like "fuck it were done with this"
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>>388341953
You don't get it do you? Trunks saved Goku's life, Goku then went on to kick Zamasu's ass. Hence his motivation.
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>>388342151
Mr Buu is handsome
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>>388341824
>>388342137


Kek this moment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtVmndZBlhU

Zamasu was fucking based
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I hope Vegito is not the Blue version.
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>>388342283
>We'll never have Fit Buu
I FUCKING HATE TORIYAMA
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>>388342090
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>>388342304
Zamasu has the best reactions
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>>388342151
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>>388342409
>vegetto

lol
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>Imagine a Saiyan-only game

Goku
Gohan
Raditz
Nappa
Vegita
Bardock
Broly
F. Trunks
Kid Trunks
Goten
Cabba
Black
Caulifla
Kale
Pan
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>>388341427
A better stance character would be Black/Zamasu actually. Same normals with altered properties but overall different specials. Would be a good way to work in a "2 in 1" character without straight up rehashing 18.
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>>388342351
Should be base form. I'm tired of these blond delinquents taking over
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>>388342595
Shut up, Chi-Chi. You're old and ugly.
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>>388341824
>>388342234
the entire point of Zamasu is that he's a whiny bitch grandstanding about being divine justice when he's really just butthurt that a filthy ningen kicked his ass

His character makes sense, he's intentionally written to be an immature manchild
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>>388331927
I just want the Ginyus.

Like, not Jeice, Captain Ginyu, or any of that. Just the entire Ginyu Force as a single character, with Captain Ginyu being the main playable character and calling the others in as assists. Hell, their intro and win animation could be a group pose!
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>>388341696
You already have Hyper DBZ for that.
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rest of the roster:

*Heroes
-Ultimate Gohan
-SS3 Gotenks
-SS Vegito
-Yamcha
-Tien
-Bardock

*Antagonists
-Kid Buu
-Beerus
-19 or 20
-Dabura
-Nappa
-Ginyu
-Broly
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>>388342409
that one is great but hampered by super's overall cheapness.
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my list
Dragonball:
Kid Goku
TAO PAIPAI MY BOIIIII
Krillin
Yamcha
Tenshinhan
Roshi with a skin of Jacky Chun

Dragon ball Z
Sangoku
Piccolo

Raditz
Nappa
Vegeta

Freezer
Recoom
Ginyu

Cell
C16
C18+17
Dr Gero
Kid Gohan

Buu
Kid Buu
Majin Buu
Gotenks
Sangohan
Dabura
Vegito

Movies
Cooler
Broly
Janemba
Gogeta

Super
Sangoku
Vegeta
Beerus
Hit
Merged Zamasu


That's it 35 characters for a 3v3 it's perfect and we dont have GT shit
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>>388336380
It is amazing how many different moves Nappa showed in his limited appearance. Are there any minor villains that came clone to this?
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>>388342679
Ginyu
Recoome with Gurdo assist
Butta with Jeice assist

Having those characters together as a team and they'll do the Ginyu Force pose.
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>>388342264

First post said his motivation was because he lost to Goku tho.

Also, it was Trunks fucking up Time that made F. Zamasu mad.
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>>388342679
Too many slots. Just do the captain commando shit people have been saying for a while
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>>388342835
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>>388342835

That's because after Freeza's arc, everyone relied more on generic ki blasts

Except for Buu and Gotenks
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>>388343003
>That one Xenoverse moment where it's Vegeta / Trunks doing the pose
10/10
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>>388342951
>First post said his motivation was because he lost to Goku tho.
Exactly

>Goku then went on to kick Zamasu's ass. Hence his motivation.

>Also, it was Trunks fucking up Time that made F. Zamasu mad.
Wrong it was saving Goku who later kicked his ass.
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>>388342835
almost every other villain
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>>388343003
Agreed with captain ginyu as the main.
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>>388337198
Buu was the most complicated out of the original 6, and honestly, the others are way cooler in general.
Dont get me wrong, Fat Buu is one of my favorite characters, but it is easy to see why people flocked to the other 4 when they were also trying out the newcomers. Gohan seeing no play there is what truly surprised me.
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>>388343110
pics?
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>>388343149

>Being this much of a speedwatcher/ Reader

We had literally episodes before his fight with Goku where he was mad as fuck against mortals, same for the manga's adaptation where he didn't even fight Goku.

Watch (and read) the arc again.
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>>388343247
>minor villain.
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>>388343414
>Watch (and read) the arc again.
Take your own advice
>>388341515
>Wrong, he pretty much says to Trunks if he hadn't saved Goku in the Cell saga all of this shit wouldn't be happening.
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>>388343003
>In most games Ginyu is a pretty chill dude as long as you can pose
>treats members to sweets, but still tells them when they fuck up
>Goku acknowledges he could of been good
Ginyu finally coming back in Super then promptly dying was such a slap in the face
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>>388343109

this.

one of the best fights in dbz was piccolo vs. 17 because it was one of the only fights that wasn't just throwing ki and watching explosions. everything after that was garbage.
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>>388343317
No matter who gets announced I always find myself wanting to watch more cell gameplay.
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You can pick if the game will have Merged Zamasu or Omega Shenron, who do you pick?
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>>388343616
Could HAVE, you Pedro.
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>>388343628
That fight was one of my favorites.
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>>388343616
>tfw every single villain is a major bro as a mentor
>Appule of all people is incredibly kind and legitimately sees you as a friend during the Frieza quests
>you already know they are going to die in advance

It hurts.
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>>388343687
Merged zamasu, no question.
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>>388343383
Vegeta:
https://youtu.be/RMHLOgD112A?t=364

Trunks:
https://youtu.be/_u-5ygGPTaU?t=3116
>Tfw hard as balls to find videos where people shut the fuck up
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>>388331927
Soon
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>>388332496
you're missing him
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>>388343741
Didn't know the mexifags liked Ginyu, they can't be that bad then
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>>388341039
Nappa and Vegeta wanted immortality to take on Freeza and avenge their race (slight retcon here on Vegeta's part.) Freeza wanted immortality so that he could continue his conquest and rule eternally. Dr. Gero initially started off trying to conquer the world, but his Z iteration has him just wanting revenge against Goku. #17/18 didn't care much for killing Goku and the others, they were just bored. Cell I'll give you, though it makes sense that he'd want to test his might given what he was comprised of. They're not all as homogenized as you suggest, even if they don't have the most profound motivations.
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>>388337720
Ok, I will do this one next.

>>388337908
>>388338694
For Gotenks & U.Gohan, I need to rewatch the movies to see if there is something good to add, I don't remember (I'm currently at Bojack in my rewatch list, so it won't be long)

>>388339503
Seriously? Can you give me a timer?
I rewatched the episodes before making this and if I remember right, he just swing his hand after being blinded.
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>>388344017
>GT characters
>getting in

haah waaw
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>>388343317
Gohan has small normals and is generally more defensive than Goku and Vegeta. He also kinda has the most generic set of supers (anti-air Kamehameha, Father-Son Kamehameha, and a stronger version of the latter). Mystic Gohan will be more popular probably.

I think Buu will be fun, but 16/Piccolo/Krillin are just that much more interesting. I'll probably make a Buu team anyway, since most of my time in Marvel 3 was spent building teams.
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>>388341039
Cell was wanting to become perfect then have fun fighting. Buu didn't give a fuck & blew things up.
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>>388343383
I'll do even better

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5U7nEKKInEc

4:10 = Vegeta

13:00 = Trunks

Bonus: Ginyu doing the classic pose as Vegeta

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mR0hmCxtbh8

Start ar the beginning, it is right after the uploader's intro.
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>>388344080
If you think not at least one GT character will get in, you're delusional. That said, it certainly won't be the faggot the other guy posted.
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>>388343687
Omega Shenron, if they are adding Super characters just use Hit, Magetta, Toppo or Jiren instead of green Kai.
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163rd for "Just Add Beerus As The Obligatory Slayer Type Character"
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>>388337603
Honestly, his spit should at least have a Super version. If it lands the killing blow, the opponent's body is replaced by a statue.

You missed the move where Nappa ripped off Tien's arm, but these are pretty great nonetheless.
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>>388343441
>>388342835
Zarbon Dabura hit Super 17 all has more and better moves than nappa and 19
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>>388344478
>You missed the move where Nappa ripped off Tien's arm
Literally the first three images in his Nappa sheet.
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>>388344413
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Since its the same artstyle I want a Guilty Gear guest character being dropped into the game. But since this is a DBZ game would anyone playing even know who someone like Sol Badguy or Millia Rage is?
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>>388344071
> I need to rewatch the movies to see if there is something good to add
You can skip through to the fights if anything. But context is good. Enjoying the watchlist so far anon?
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>>388343046
Why is 19 so hard to find?
I just want to play as a psychotic robot clown.
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>>388344712
No, most of the playerbase would be confused to see Sol, let alone Dragon Install Sol. I do think it could be fun, but it'd probably cause too much autistic screeching in the long run
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>>388344497
>Hit
>Super 17

>Minor

>Zarbon
>anything besides Elegant Blaster

>>388344591
Shit, sorry.
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>>388342835
Can you really call Nappa minor villains when he's one of three and he killed 2 main characters.
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Will we get SSGSS Golden Cell?
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>>388344958
>>Hit
hit is a good guy
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>>388344193
Vegeta's nose in that game was so weird.
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>>388345085
He's never coming back
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>>388344854
he will get in, Gero has no moves and the absorption gimmick is unique
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Will there be DBH characters?
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>>388345158
>Spawns a few Cell Jrs
>handholding
>SSJG Cell
>trains for 4 months
>SSGSS Golden Cell
He'd be too strong for the Universal Survival Arc.
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>>388345198
>Note over forte
Shit taste
Also when full power super saiyan 4 dark dragon ball time breaker broly
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>>388345196
Gero could be a character that uses his various androids to fight for him. He could use different specials to call in different androids and the androids would have movesets. Arc has done things similar to that.
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>>388345198
Never, probably. If this becomes a franchise instead of a one-off game it may happen though.
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>>388342409
Man I wish they just hired this dude to be the full time fight guy
Everyone else is way too fucking stiff and afraid to do dynamic angles
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>>388345350
But anon, any DBH female saiyan is better than DBS female saiyans
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>>388345403
the only other summon character for now will be Ginyu
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>>388345446
>Everyone else is way too fucking stiff and afraid to do dynamic angles
Bitch do you even naoki Tate ?
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>>388345472
I'm not saying it's absolute and they will (I couldn't care less if Gero got in or not), just saying with Arc it's easily possible for them to make him a fighting game character.
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>>388345446
None can match Toriyama though.
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>>388344696
where's rachel?
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>>388345471
this 100% U6 saiyans not having tails was a mistake
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What are the chances of Towa or the other vidya OCs showing up?
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>>388345528
He was good in Z, but I don't like most of his super stuff, but when he does good I admit it is pretty good
Something about his faces during fights just bothers the fuck out of me
>>388345619
Let my suffering end
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>>388345968
Towa would be god-tier.
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>>388336970
It could be a good Sentinel-like character
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>>388345649
Why do people even get so upset about this?
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>>388346137
It's a 6 letters word which starts with "au" and ends with "tism".
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>>388336970
He destroys ningen.
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>>388342409
The choreography was still lacking in that fight IMO. Vegetto swinging at nothing is not okay, and despite these being some of the heaviest blows in Super, the entire thing still feels weightless in a way that makes it boring to look at.
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>>388345619
Seriously it's always this fight doesn't anyone have any other examples?
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>>388345968
Towa would be cool and make sense plot wise.
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>>388346237
Automatism?
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>>388346312
That's 10 letters, anon.
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>>388346137
Because it's dumb that they don't have them.
Lots of folks like the whole tail thing, me inuded
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>>388344017
Almost all of the first arc of GT has been erased from my mind.
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>>388345968
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>>388346382
Same. I only remember Trunks getting Han Solo'd, and a giant catfish.
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>>388346110
>>388346292
You wouldn't become a dumb waifufag for little old Towa, would you?
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>>388346287

Goku vs Vegeta

Goku vs Freeza

Goku vs Kid Buu

Gotenks vs Super buu
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>>388346372
is this some kind of fetish ?
you want to grab cauliflas tail ?
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>>388346287
Most of the manga's fights got good action.
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>>388346490
I'd breed Towa
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>>388346372
It's the most minor (outright inconsequential even) thing to hate on about the character though. It reminds me of the whole autismfest that happened over Sonic's arms being blue.
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>>388346372

Toriyama stated a long time ago that tails disappear after getting strong enough.

Hence why Goku, Gohan and Vegeta got rid of them.

U6 Saiyans, being evolved and strong enough, got rid of them too.
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>>388332496
missing Kid Goku (GT) too
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>>388345619
Sand Land was Toriyama's art at it's peak in my opinion. Give it a read if you haven't already, it's a fun little adventure story and the protagonist is notDabura's son.
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>>388346389
towa has been showing up in pretty much every recent dbz game (including fusion)
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>>388344940
>>388344712
considering the oversimplification of the controls and inputs I don't think you could even get away with a GG character.

Now a GG vs DBZ game... THAT I could get behind
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>>388346503
Maybe I do but that's not the point right now
>>388346583
I don't hate on Caulifla for lacking a tail, that's other niggas.
Saiyans having tails isn't the same as the dumb sonic arms shit.
One is just a new design for a different continuity, while the other is still apartof the same one but has a dumb reason for it's decision
>>388346616
Pretty sure he said it was because he hated drawing them
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>>388344712
Only if none of the new fags Xrd/Overture introduced are in. Sin's probably the worst fighting game character design I've ever seen, he looks like one those goofy Final Fantasy X-2 npcs.
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>>388346858
Fuck is that?
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>>388342675
You aren't wrong, but he also had to witness several civilizations implode and fuck up their planets. His loss against Goku made him realize that mortals weren't just a threat to their environments, but also to gods.
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>>388346861

That was Cell, not saiyan's tails
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>>388346858
Female Android 19 has no reason being that cute.
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>>388345328
Real reason is his spots, not joking
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>>388347003
>Interviewer: Did the tail get in the way of the fighting?


>AT: No, it’s just that I’m always thinking about how things are supposed to work, so it was a real pain to figure out how he’d put his pants on or stuff like that. That’s what always bugged me most. Is there a hole in the pants? Does he put his tail through first, then put the pants on? So that made me want to just get rid of the darn thing… which I did, in the end. (laughs)
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>>388346287
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>>388347169

(Laughs)

Everytime.
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>>388346773
This. I think the game is going to have more characters than most ArcSys games due to having a lot less individual moves per character.

Your average GG character has a dozen specials, a few command normals, an Instant Kill, etc. In DBFZ characters have less normals than GG, 2-4 specials, and 2-3 supers (with Frieza's 4 being an exception).

I'd wager that the effort put into a DBFZ character is ~60-70% of what it is to make an Xrd character, with the SSGSS Goku/Vegeta being only about 40% due to the reused assets.
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>>388346959
dragon ball heroes i want to play it but im not completely sure it has custom characters plus it's Japanese only the 3ds version plus the machines
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>>388347227
It's a staple of jap interviews
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>>388331927
DBZ has the most boring and generic powers ever.
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>>388347217

>When you bully your little brother and then he strikes you back.
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>>388347319
This is why having characters like 16 is a good thing. Tien will be cool too.
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I'm finding it really hard to feel any hype for this and I'm actually struggling to find a point in it even existing

>Super so right there it's really killing my interest it would be like adding DmC content to a DMC game
>burnt out on the sheer number of DBZ games so why do we need another?
>no character creation time shenanigan shit so there's not going to be anything fresh just the same re-tredding of plots and shit we've done a thousand times
>no DB characters
>it's visually great but the animation fluidity is really lacking

Just why?
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>>388331927
>game is called Dragon Ball Fighter *Z*
>has Super bullshit in it
why
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>>388347535
You're just jaded. Stop going on /v/, seriously, it sucks up any enthusiasm you could possibly have.
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No 5th form Cooler no buy
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>>388347535
nice blog
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>>388347601
why did every other dragon ball game have gt and og db in it retard how are people this stupid
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>>388341748
>I forgot, but why didn't Super Buu want to become Kid Buu again?

Gohan/Buu > Gotenks/Buu > Piccollo/Buu > Super Buu = Fat Buu > South Kai/Buu > Kid Buu > Evil Buu > Good Buu

A lot of people think that Kid Buu is one of the stronger forms because he appeared last, but that's just how our brains are hardwired to think. Kid Buu was by design a weapon of mass destruction. Buu's absorption was flawed because despite getting stronger with every individual he absorbed, he would also gain their personality traits. All the Buus were immortal and could blow up planets, but Kid buu was the only form who would go apeshit and actually do it if so much as a bird shit on him. Despite being weaker, Kid buu is more dangerous than Beerus. Beerus can be bribed with treats or distracted with contests of strength but Kid Buu is just thinking of raping the universe 24/7
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>>388347535
Soooo, you want Xenoverse 3?
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>>388347601
No, it's called FighterZ, not Fighter Z.
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>>388347535
>don't expect Tao Pai Pai
>yet cyan Goku and cyan Vegeta are in
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>>388332496
You forgot about the guy who saved earth from Vegeta the first time he showed up
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>>388346858
They all got worse.
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>>388347632
But if I was jaded I wouldn't be burnt out on all the DBZ games, I would have been too jaded to even play them.

>>388347698
>asking questions about a game is a blog

>>388347754
I want games that break canon and all the rules. Xenoverse does that with time fucking, some Budokai games do that with "What if?" plots. I know there's a what if involving 16 but I want a whole game like that like Raditz going to Namek and fighting Frieza.
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>>388347942
And saved Goku in general.
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>>388347249
>>388346773
I don't know, Sol has really basic inputs already:
https://www.eventhubs.com/moves/ggxrd/sol-badguy/
You just assign them to different buttons like they already do and keep the quarter circle motions. Then you just drop his instant kill.

The problem comes with the variety of options he would then have over characters and what you should cut out to balance that. Then it gets into how or if you handle roman cancels, bursting, or DBFZ's dragonrush
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>>388347741
>weapon of mass destruction whos only desire is to destroy on a galactic scale
>knows martial arts
this will never not be funny
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>>388331927
>Super shit

Ugh.

Still gonna get it, but goddamn.

At least it looks 10x better than Super.
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>>388331927
I haven't been in these threads for a while, how butthurt did this trailer make the autist who kept insisting no Super content would make it into the game?
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We need more Freeza and buu arc characters.

We have around 5 cell arc characters
>T Jobhan
>18
>16
>Cell
>Trunks

Freeza
>Freeza
>Vegeta

buu
>BUU

Super
>SSB Goku
>SSB Vegeta

Original DB characters
>Goku
>Krillin
>Piccolo
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>>388347741
Then what was Super Buu's end game anyway?
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>>388347779
>protagonists and their new forms are in
>old irrelevant character no one gives a fuck about isnt
wow big fucking surprise!
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>>388347779
Tao Pai Pai was so much of a nothing he was defeated in a joke crossover with Dr. Slump
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>>388347535
>being upset about super content
Stop being a fucking baby
>no CaC creation
Wouldn't work too well here with this dev
>same plot points
Turning villians purple isn't very different either, and FighterZ has a different story planned
>no db characters
Fuck off
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>>388348152
Blow shit up for fun. The Buus had little goals besides fun & destruction.
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>>388348102
They said that since Blue shows up in the movie then it's not a Super character
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>>388336970
In the end, Freezer was cooler, and Cooler was Freezer.
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>>388347535
It's going to be a good game for once.
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>>388348275
You honestly sound like a Superfag anon. Are you?
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>>388348284
And what about SSBKaioken?
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>>388348282
Then why not become Kid Buu
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>>388348348
>muh xfag
you sound like cancer
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>>388348382
Shhh, don't say that, you'll startle them.
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>>388348419
I won't be me anymore
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>>388331927

Isn't this game made by Yurocucks?

>pre-order canceled
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>>388348439
Definitely a superfag.
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>>388337603
Do Yamcha next.
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>>388348258
Vegeta shouldn't be the in the game either by that standard.
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>>388348510
Because you just posted the only good animation in GT.
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>>388348382
they said it's not from super since kaioken and blue is from *dragon ball z*
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Odds on the villain of the story mode being an original character and playable?
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>>388348508
Are you retarded? And I don't mean in the meme sense, I mean legit. How the fuck is Arcsys European?
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>>388347535
>Super so right there it's really killing my interest it would be like adding DmC content to a DMC game
ArcSys can make Super characters cool, I don't care who gets in from there since it'll be 10% of the roster.
>burnt out on the sheer number of DBZ games so why do we need another?
This one plays different from every console DBZ game on a genre level since the 2D games and will play utterly unique from every other DBZ game ever made (even the 3DS ArcSys games are more simplistic)
>no character creation time shenanigan shit so there's not going to be anything fresh just the same re-tredding of plots and shit we've done a thousand times
There's literally an original story that involves some sort of revival or time shenanigans since it takes place around Super but 16, Frieza, and Cell are there. There's also some sort of doppelganger thing happening.
>no DB characters
This will suck. I do hope for Roshi to kinda rep it though.
>it's visually great but the animation fluidity is really lacking
I personally enjoy the way they exaggerate keyframes because it makes the animations pop more, emulates anime, and works better for the genre.
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>>388348348
>are you
No, because I hate recolors as transformations, I'm just telling you why you're being a shit
>>388348509
That ain't me, but good job
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It would be nice if Arcsys got to make their own original character for dbfz to put in the roster. I'm sure if they did it would be fun as hell to play and with a ton of gameplay options.
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>>388348016
You know it is an original story, right?
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>>388348152

Doing whatever the fuck he wants. The Z fighters pissed him off and he wanted to settle a score. He spared Hercule because he wanted to. Super Buu was no different than the gods of the Greeks and Romans. It's entirely possible that he could have become addicted to Pachinko after killing the z-fighters and then the earth would be at peace because he'd kill any invader that wanted to get in the way of his gambling addiction.
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>>388348552
You're fucking retarded, Vegeta got to be the villain of his own arc, one of the most important characters in three more, and shares the spot of main character in Super. Tao Pai Pai got BTFO by Arale, was a joke villain Tien stomped, and then he was gone forever. He was memorable but he was NEVER important.
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>>388340618
>3.-Zamas/Black

Kek
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>>388348586
And what about the finishing move he does in the trailer that was only used on Hit and nowhere in Z?
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>>388348509
definitely cancer
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>>388342382
Fuck off Buucuck. Best boy Frieza is singlehandedly saving this shit arc.
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>>388347601
Because Z is the marketing catch. Every DB related material has the Z slapped on for profit. It's not a reflection of its content.
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>>388348258
>>388348552
>>388348701
>mfw general blue became tao
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>>388348798
By doing nothing? I love Freeza but he's had, what, 1 minute of screentime this whole tournament?
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How the fuck do power levels in this game make sense?

SSGSSJ vs. Krillin?
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>>388331927
So it looks like 1v3 comebacks are basically impossible in this game. Competitivefags, do you see this as a good or bad thing?
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>b-b-but Roshi can't be in the game because he can't fly!!!!

Are you people stupid? Is there any character in this game that just hovers above the ground constantly and flies around the stage? They just float a bit during an attack and that's it. Master Roshi can jump extremely high like he did in DB so he can still to aerial attacks.

Fucking idiots...
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>>388348617
>Combo into a super
>Super does less than 5%
They really need to fix scaling.

Good to see some competent Dr. Pickle gameplay though. Games looking like a proper airdasher/ combo exhibition affair.
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>>388348119
Vegeta is definitely Android/Cell Saga, his supers are Big Bang Attack and Final Flash.

We'll get Kid Buu and Ginyu and Mystic Gohan.
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>>388348894
the tournament isnt over you fucking retard. he's very obviously going to get time later
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>>388348967
Jesus, what the fuck is your damage, dude?
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>>388348258
That was General Blue.
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>>388348798
>Best boy
By this point, I've been sick & tired of Frieza for a long time. Even before RoF his popularity have him fucktons of attention. He had stuff like Plan to Eradicate the Saiyans & various video game original plots. The came RoF & this shit.
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>s*percucks
The same ones who suggest different movesets for one character
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>>388348701
Tao was the main villain of an arc too, like Vegeta. Then got turned into a complete joke too, like Vegeta. Both got stomped by Arale. What's the issue here?
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>>388348925
good, also no incoming mixups

gotta always switch between your characters to let all 3 alive
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>>388348773
they said it doesn't matter still not a super character or move
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>>388349049
>Tao
>Arale
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>>388345085
>>388345158
WHEN
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So what's the most irrelevant & minor complaint everyone has?
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>mfw I won't be able to play as a cute majin girl in this game
That's the only thing Xenoverse has over this game. Otherwise DBFz looks x100 better in animation, gameplay, music, etc...
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>>388342569
>Black
>Saiyan

Might as well count Baby as a Saiyan too.
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>>388344017
>literally never been in a game
Give up that hope pedro.
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>>388349049
I can't remember Tao ever interacting with Arale, he beat Goku, Goku climbed Korin's Tower, returned to fight him and he blew up after trying to trick Goku with a grenade.
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>>388349134
He's retarded for bringing up non canon material, but you are too, it happened in a movie retelling.
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If Hit thought he killed Goku, why wasn't he surprised to see him at the ToP?
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>>388348925
I'm sure if your last character is decent and you have Sparking Blast you can do a reverse OCV if you're good enough.
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>>388348919
Krillin has a lot of handy/tricky techniques but doesn't hit as strong or as fast as someone like Vegeta. So you pick Krillin because he'll be good in a TEAM, matches aren't 1v1.
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>>388349189
Blue having the same outfits as normal. Could easily have given them the new costumes or given Goku and Vegeta the myriad of costumes they've had
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>>388349189
They didn't bother to give SSB Vegeta a black jumpsuit or change up Gokus uniform slightly to look like it did in FoF to help set the two apart more visually from the regular SSJ versions.
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>>388349394
They fight again in the next fucking episode, retardo.
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>>388349394
because Goku came back a few minutes later and had a fight (that Hit probably didn't take very seriously, he started fucking around a bit and humoring him)
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>>388349394
Did you even watch the rest of the episode?
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>>388348919
They're designing weaker characters around gimmicks while canon stronger characters are more straight-forward. 16 is a grappler, Piccolo has crossups and space control, Krillin has Solar Flare/Rocks/Senzu/Destructo Disc/curved ki, 18 has a striker.

>>388348931
To be fair Hellzone Grenade is probably a low-damage super by itself, but Light Grenade should've killed there. I think there's more options to extend combos without a Level 3 at that point though.
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>>388349189
It's just me, but it bothers the fuck out of me that every saiyan, that isn't SSB Goku and Vegeta, is in their super form. Not saying to make separate character slots for the same character, like Final Bout, but I'm used to starting out in their normal state.
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>>388348102
>>388348382
>>388348729
Their overall conclusion is that it's not a Super character because Goku didn't originate from Super. According to them if there was a SSJ4 Goku he wouldn't be a GT character either.

I hate Super but that autism got under my skin.
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>>388349565
I kinda wanted Trunks in base form. Gotenks would probably be better that way too.
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W H E N
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>>388348919
They fucking don't, thank god. Most other DBZ fighters are balanced around canon strength and are plagued with fusions/higher up villains being too strong. Characters being able to do more than just "full screen beam" is a real breath of fresh air. They could do a lot more with the 3D fighters but they never take advantage of it beyond flying around everywhere. Super DBZ is the only other DBZ fighter I can think of where most of the characters are viable in-part because of the way they built their moveset.
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>>388349586
That's disingenuous as fuck superfag. People that said it said it because these forms both originated in movies with Z in the title, not Super.

I associate it with Super though now and don't want any Super shittery associated with DBZ so I was annoyed that people used that logic.
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>>388348643
And thank fucking god for that
Being fed the exact same story for over a decade in every game is agitating as hell and pointless
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>>388349295
he's in Heroes, retard
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>>388349768
soon
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>>388349189
I've seen a couple people mentioning the androids having auras, but honestly that shit is necessary from a gameplay perspective. Having characters that don't share the same visual indicators as others when it comes to universal mechanics just doesn't fly.
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>>388349990
ssbkk does not appear in a z movie based retardfag
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>>388349565
Well the only one worth it would be Goku. Vegeta would have to be his Saiyan-Namek arcs version because he did nothing in base after that. Gohan would have to be either his child version or Ultimate. Base teen Gohan didn't do anything and adult, in any form, didn't either before he unlocked his potential (and even then most of Ultimate Gohan's moves are made up in vidya). Trunks did jackshit in base.
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Does this game has ki blast clashes like Cell vs Gohan?
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>>388332496
>Ginyu w/Ginyu Force
>Beerus
>Kid Buu or Super Buu
>Zarbon
I'll take this.
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>>388350176
Ultimate is gonna be in anyway.
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>>388345649
I don't like the U6 saiyans, but you and other anons who complain about missing tails are overlooking the point of U6. They are meant to be "evolved" saiyans. Ones who outgrew the need of savagery, and are more diplomatic and modern. Goku, Vegeta and the rest of the saiyans, excluding the hybrids are essentially cavemen.
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>>388350115
Zamasu could have won if he picked Cell
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>>388349990
>SSGSS + Usual outfit
>SSGSS Kaioken
>Most of his moves including his super
All from Super. Don't call me a Superfag ever again you nigger. I wish it didn't exist but seeing retards pisses me off more.
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>>388350115
how do i join this frat house?
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>>388350248
No and why the fuck do people even want that shit? You would either have to mash buttons to win or make it a gay as fuck QTE and whoever presses X first wins.
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>>388350387
By being a god.
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>>388350248
>Muh beam struggles that happened less than 5 times in the series
No thank god. This is a fighting game, not a button masher like nearly every other DBZ game
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>>388350387
how poorly written are you? you have to be pretty bad to get in
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>>388350160
These arguments started long before super saiyan blue kaioken was ever revealed ironic retardfag. It was all based on Golden Frieza.

Supershitters I swear
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>>388348948

>That means 6 cell saga reps

HOLY Shit please no

Freeza arc characters:
>Ginyu Force
>Nappa
>Raditz

Buu arc
>Dabura
>Vegetto
>Gotenks
>Ultimate Jobhan

Super
>Beerus
>Hit
>Black

I would add Bardock, but 4 gokus Is too much
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>>388350248
Not in the button mashing sense, but some Supers can clash, and overpower the other if it's a higher level one.
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>>388350160
Kk is from DBZ
SSB is from a Z movie
No super characters allowed faggot
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>>388349480
He's probably waiting for the dub.
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>>388347601
I don't see any Super shit, anon. SSGSS debuted in a Z film and Kaioken is from the saiyan saga.
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>>388350593
>Kk is from DBZ
No, it's from Dragon Ball.
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>2005
What did Toriyama mean by this?
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>>388350382
How fucking new are you to these threads jackass.
>>388350526
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>>388350593
and ssbkk is from super you pathetic autist
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>>388350410
>>388350474

Does this have punch/kick clashes like the series?

Something like SSB4 where clashing jabs push back characters.

Also, does this have "counter" specials like "Goku activates his super Kamehameha but at the same time Freeza activates his super Death Ball"?
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>>388336970
16 is already in though
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You'd think people would stop replying to the obvious shitposters, but I guess that'd be giving too much credit to /v/ of all places.
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>>388348510
Literally the first thing in that webm.
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>>388347535
Debora > Janemba for "demonic sword user"
Prove me wrong
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>>388350129
Isn't that supposed to be an advantage of the Androids? They're atypical. They don't use ki, don't suffer from stamina problems and don't age.
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>>388350718
???
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>>388350994
>Debora
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>>388350387
How much do you hate mortals, or ningens as I like to call them
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>>388350917
Just watch some gameplay. Dragon Rush class turns into a flurry of punches and kicks before a break.
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>>388350523
well thank god we have the manga
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>>388342234
That's what you get for watching the anime instead of reading the manga
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>>388349990
SSBKK is from Super. What's so hard to understand about that? Is English not your first language?
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>>388351150
>Implying Zamasu and Black aren't even more poorly written in the manga
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>>388351119
>class
meant clash
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>>388348510
Kid Goku
Animation that makes super look good
Rehashing movie and ova plots
Super Saiyan 4
Super 17
Shadow Dragons
It being Goku Time feat. Pan every episode
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>>388340618
The onlhy good Bardock thing is his OVA. Everything after that is absolute trash.
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>>388351150
Manga is even worse. Holy shit I want Z back.
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>>388351205
they arent.
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>>388351386
yeah chilled was great
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All I see are characters that do 20 hit combos and, while it looks cool, feels like watching melee's wobbling where you can't do anything.

Besides using IT (which seems cool), are there any combo breakers?
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>>388350593
The level of mental gymnastics really is unfathomable. Stay mad, cuck.
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>>388342409
In the manga Vegito just toyed with him
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>>388351417

General consensus is they're.

They become generic on the last half of the manga.
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>>388351474

In the manga mastered SSB was on par with Merged zamasu, pretty retarded
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>>388351446
Vanish isn't a combo breaker, and there's no bursts like in Blazblue/Guilty Gear, so no.
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>>388351624
wrong clones were to strong
and no one has mastered ssb no one even mastered normal super saiyan
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>>388351446
Play the footsies better and don't get hit. Simple.
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>>388351446
There are no bursts, which is uncharacteristic of an anime fighter, but the combos don't seem that damaging, especially since you have 3 characters.
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>>388348926
I think it'd be cool if he flew around using the spinning turtle shell thing he has.
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>>388348925
It'll be fun for us, but if it remains the way it is, spectators will start getting bored fast.

Also

When
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>>388351417
The entire arc is terrible in the manga.
How does being immortal mean you can recreate a fusion on top of cloning yourself?
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Am I the only one not "feeling" the game? I can't see the mixups, if there's any. I hope this game ain't as shallow as it is looking for me right now.
I'll play it regardless. This game has such love and care put into it.
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>>388352131
Better than fusing with the Universe out of nowhere, when you're not even immortal anymore.
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>>388351201
Why are superfags so ironically retarded? The equivalency he pulled with comparing super saiyan blue to super saiyan 4 and the supposed logic of why people don't consider it a super character is retarded.

This whole fucking thing started from the fact that these characters first appeared in a Z titled movie. This never happened with ss4, and even if you equate that to ssbk that's still a stupid false equivalence because kaioken isn't a transformation, it's a power-up, that's he's even done in super saiyan form(inb4 muh canon because dbz games give a shit about that).

These are obviously super characters. You fags are just so insecure you fall for the lowest tier bait when these people are just being anti-super, I mean look at how you're all sperging out about something I never even claimed. The point is, his logic was false and stupid and people probably also say it because supershitters are shitters who need containment.
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>>388352226
We'll see. We don't really have good players putting up high quality footage. Max is okay but most of the footage has him playing bad people or stationary characters. There was some promising stuff floating around for the E3 build, might still be on Twitter.
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>>388352226
I can't really tell if it's overly basic or not yet, dunno quite what to think of it. I'm optimistic about it though.
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>>388351436
You know what I mean fuck you.

>>388351807
Most combos are starting with Lights, meaning they're scaled to shit like in BB.
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>>388348925
It's not. A level 3 Sparking Blast does a lot of work.

Maximillion won in a 1 v 3 situation in the Evo tournament.
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>>388352241
>Better than fusing with the Universe out of nowhere
Anon, that was part of the zero mortals plan that was set up from the start.

>when you're not even immortal anymore.
Funny you should say that because half of Zamasu still was in the anime which is why half of him started to mutate and die but in the manga the Fusion explicitly removes it which is why Hakai works.
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>>388352226
>I can't see the mixups
Then you are blind or stupid. krillin and the doc even have moves with built in mix ups
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>>388352226
They keep showcasing this game with casuals playing. The ESL tournament was brutal to watch because of it. Shit looks mad ugly. Atleast with MvCi, they are getting top level Marvel plays to try it out on the big stage.
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>>388352131
The manga had some pretty good action in the Fused Zamasu parts. I like how instead of Goku being an idiot & forgetting Sensus, Zamasu instead uses his magic to steal it. It's the same result but because of a competent enemy instead of an incompetent hero. As for the regen, it makes more sense that wishing for an immortal body & somehow leading tp fusing with the universe. Black's anime zenkais without heals between were pretty bad & so were Trunks' power-ups & spirit bomb sword from a handful of people;s energy. Even Dimps did a better Zamasu saga in XV2 with the other worlds contributing.
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>>388352557
>Anon, that was part of the zero mortals plan that was set up from the start.
Nice headcanon bruh

>Funny you should say that because half of Zamasu still was in the anime
So not immortal then
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>>388351329
GT has better art, animation, OST and plot ideas(but with bad execution) than Super

>superkids in a nutshell
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>>388352708
>So not immortal then
If you're talking about the manga sure. Not in the anime.
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>>388352404
ssbkk is from super the moves goku used from super the stuff he is wearing super
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>>388351624
>retarded
>zamasu is like SS2 tier and goku black is just SSB goku
dumb toeicuck
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>>388352867
Stop being retarded, Zamasu was immortal in the manga, in the anime he wasn't hence why his body was destroyed.
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>>388352809
>animation
Woah, woah, woah.
No.
In Super the characters at least move with GT most of the time the characters are stationary and when they move they have about 2 to 3 frames of animation at a time.
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>>388351624
Zamasu is just fucking around and Goku was getting trashed.
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>>388341427
I really hope they put in Super Buu over Kid Buu.
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>>388352876
You weren't the one who questioned my english were you?

Wew lad
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Toyota is a hack, just because he can draw like Tori doesn't mean he can think like Tori. Being an artist is more than drawing, it's problem solving and imagination. Toyotaro wouldn't have been able to draw the Chrono Trigger cast.
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>>388352809
>art
They're on par at best, most of its backgrounds and alien locales are very samey and unimaginative. You literally were tricked by the grain into thinking the art was good.

>animation
Good heavens, no. GT is everything Super is rightly shat on for and more. It is completely abysmal and I swear no one that claims this has watched GT in the last five years. A majority of the show was RoF arc levels of awful.

>OST
Debatable, it was a poor and forgettable with one or two exceptions which is the same way I'd rate Super's

>and plot ideas
100% pointless without good execution.
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>>388351671
>>388351807
>There are no bursts
I could have sworn that burst was in the game but every would rather not use it in favor for the x-factor.
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>>388352951
What point are you trying to make here?
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>Arguing about anime on /v/
Can you guys just go to /a/?
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>>388353168
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>>388352226
>I can't see the mixups, if there's any.
Well you haven't looked very hard
https://twitter.com/GREATFERNMAN/status/900074224030814208
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>>388348070
Does he know? He just seems to punch and kick randomly. No stances no nothing.
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>>388352226
>I can't see the mixups
Have you not seen Krillin?
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>>388352951

Wasn't Vegeta getting BTFO in the manga by Black in their final fight.
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>>388352809
>animation
no
>ost
no
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>>388350410
Because there's nothing wrong with mashing buttons or QTE's.
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>>388352809
>plot ideas(but with bad execution)
Most of them weren't even GT original unlike Super where both tournament arcs didn't even progress like a tournament.
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>>388353516

Buu was a character Toriyama created just by getting tired of DB yet is one of the most original (if not the most original) characters of the series.
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>>388353168
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>>388353539
no if I remember correctly this was their last fight before they fused and vegeta won
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>>388353574
cherrypicking

and the budget for 30 episodes was blown in that segment
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>>388353516
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>>388353638
how'd you add those facial lines? texture? grease pen? freestyle?
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>>388353743
then "cherrypick" a good GT fight sequence

oh wait you cant
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>>388352956
>Zamasu was immortal in the manga
Not him but it's mentioned that the Fusion removes it completely in the manga.
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>>388353823
Its how they do it. You make your texture square and use the black inbetween space for the interior lines. Solidify takes care of exterior lines.
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>>388352404
>replies with literal paragraphs of "y-you're the one that's mad! XD rekt"
I'll give you a pity (You), you raging autist.
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>>388352562

Should have worded better. I don't see the room for ambiguous shit outside of those basic automatic left/right.
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>>388353743
You can call out cherrypicking all you want but GT didn't even have Sakuga(?) moments
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>>388353839
Is this the punch that SSB Vegeta has for his meteor or whatever?
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I havem't seen gt since the 90s and I barely remember it but it unquestionably has better character design and ost. Anybody who argues against ost hasn't listened to the japanese version which is the only fair way to compare to super. Super's OST isn't amazing but it's good, but one of my biggest ossues with Super is the abysmal character design.

>open up the db universe with endless possibilities not having to conform to db logic
>uninteresting as hell and/or outright bad

I love Zamasu and Black but one is a clone which has been done multiple times already.
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>>388353682
it works because he was a magical based villain in a series with mostly sci fi stuff (though cell was arguably more horror based when that was starting out)
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>>388353839
super 17 and baby were good that female air water shenron was good also but that's it nothing else is good really in gt
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>>388352809
GTpedros have reached new levels of delusion. Must be whatever's in the water in their in third world spic countries.
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>>388350917
>Does this have punch/kick clashes like the series?
It does, could have sworn i had a webm of it but i don't. You mean clashes like this right?
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>>388353529

Holy shit. Now we're talking. I thought Maxishillion was the highest level of play since he recorded his shit at Bamco's office.
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>>388354073
how is black a clone
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>>388353839
>a good GT fight sequence
goten vs baby
heck most baby saga fights are better than anything in super
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>>388354098

Yeah senpai.
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>>388353727
I really wished "SSG Vegeta turning Blue before hitting a move" was used in DBFZ.
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>>388354091
>super 17
You could not have picked a worse example.
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>>388352956
>it's the webm toyocuck again
we never saw his wish, immortality by feats gives you an immortal soul (shin also said that he would wish for immortality)
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>>388350917
>Does this have punch/kick clashes like the series?
Yes but not very noticeable

>Also, does this have "counter" specials
I'm not even sure what you mean, but supers can beat each other
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>>388354195
>how is black a clone
literally turles
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>>388354229
Yeah this game has that, I saw it in the E3 tourny.
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>>388349309
Didn't arale also beat Goku?
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>>388353898
Except I never did that and just did? And you question my English?

Why don't idiots like you ever learn to just stop replying if you can't concede instead of having to get the last word to feel better about yourself.
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>>388354218
The only fight that can be considered a fight in the Baby saga is Goku v Baby and it still doesn't have any good moments.
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>>388353841
No it doesn't, why lie?
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I can't wait for this game, but I haven't watched Dragonball since the end of Buu. I'm not retarded enough to watch this garbage for another 100+ episodes.
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>>388354315
>immortal soul
Wrong retard
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>>388354430
The real question is why do you think it's a lie?
Did you just gloss over it or are you in denial?
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>>388354195
He is literally a clone. I made it clear I was speaking specifically about character design. Reading comprehension.
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>>388354473
that's the right decision, GT, new Z movies and Super are garbage
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>>388354350
that act different fight different and have different attacks
and dont you dare talk shit about turles one of the more popular movie characters in japan
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>>388354473
That's honestly the best policy to have. I'd normally say "look up the fights" but none of them are well choreographed or animated enough to recommend doing so. They're really behind by modern standards.
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>>388354430
>why lie?
It's the Toei shill way
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>>388331927
I hope this+Gold Frieza is the only shit they put from Super in this game.
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>>388354473

Skip the first 30 episodes of Super

Watch the U6 tournament arc
Watch the Black arc
Skip filler
Watch the baseball episode.
Watch the Tournament of Power arc.
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I really want to watch Super because I'm interested in the whole Goku Black arc but I literally cannot sit through an entire episode of grandma Goku without wanting to tear my ears off. Why the fuck is the dub so much better than the original for DBZ onwards?
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I want SS4 gogeta roshi and kale
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>>388354524
Universal Zamasu existing contradicts your headcanon, "immortal body" does not exclude an immortal soul, we never saw his wish. Shin mentions that Zamasu would "wish for immortality" right before Beerus hakais him.

tl;dr your position is indefensible, we don't have to do this dance again, ningen.

Are you gonna post your simpsons gif yet?
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>>388354097
evry tiem
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>>388354569
>>388354619
oh im sorry i made a mistake have a monster girl as an apology
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>>388354709

How does Hit win vs Goku in the manga?
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>>388354263
nice
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>>388354712
>Universal Zamasu existing contradicts your headcanon,
Nah just it's shit writing like the Genki dama out of nowhere.
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WAIT! there are people that don't think SS4 is the best transformation both in concept and looks?
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>>388354708
the dub is utter garbage except for goku and freeza
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>>388354403
>Why don't idiots like you ever learn to just stop replying if you can't concede instead of having to get the last word to feel better about yourself.
That's extremely ironic coming from you. Stay salty, cuck.
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>>388354843
Enjoy being wrong then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxSrSK2ioQw
1:20

I do agree that the genki dama made no sense, but it was fun to watch.
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>>388354851
how old is that screenS?
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>>388354941

>Not also Vegeta, Hercule,Piccolo and King Kai

There's wrong and then there's WRONG

At least in English people fucking sound like they fucking should and not like grandmas
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>>388354967
>Enjoy being wrong then.
Whatever floats your boat. >>388354524


>I do agree that the genki dama made no sense, but it was fun to watch.
You should check out Fairy Tail then it's full of shit like that.
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>>388354806
thanks, I've got one more
was testing combo system and stuff
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>>388354737
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>>388354802
forfeits since hit can't use his abilities to the fullest as they're meant to kill
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>>388354851
magic clothing
edgy red eyeliner
pink fur
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>>388355082
I tried fairy tail once, dropped it within 10 episodes.
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>>388354708
You can literally watch just that arc and that's it. If you watch the first two movies you won't be confused but even then I don't think it's necessary.

Fair warning, it builds up amazingly, you'll think you're seeing prime DBZ again but then it plays out like the low quality show Super always has been. Still worth a watch but very disappointing.
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>>388355051
>super vegeta
>good
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>>388355150
That's kind of bullshit.
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>>388354967

Toyocuck BTFO
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>>388355251

You mean the same voice actor it was in DBZ?
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>>388355101
post it then
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>>388351624
No. Retarded was fused zamasu being so strong when zamas was so weak. Vegito is powerful because of being a ffusion of 2 strong individuals and rivals
Fused zamus is a strong dude fused with a weaker version of himself. Yet the anime expects me to believe his strentgh was close to vegito when Black was weaker than Goku and Vegeta.
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>>388355151
>magic clothing
>doesn't complain about the magic out of nowhere mass for Oozaru

kek
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>>388350924
The fuggin waggles you talkin about?
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>>388355150

Can't believe i'm gonna Say this, but the anime handled it better.
>>
>>388355309
his voice is clearly different regardless of actor
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>>388355369
Zamasu was stronger in the anime, probably because he was like 10 years in the future and had time to get stronger with his immortality ontop.
>>
>>388355369
Fusion isn't additive; it's exponential, otherwise it would be pointless.
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>>388354967

Was Zamasu really bad, or just in the wrong side of history?
>>
>>388355430

As someone who literally rewatched all of DBZ before starting Super, it is not
>>
>>388348320
Coolers was bigger though.
>>
God FighterZ threads are so annoying
>>
>>388355384
The best part is that in the manga Hit wasn't as strong as he was in the anime.
Basically when Goku went God he had him on the ropes.
>>
>>388355475

This.

Toyopedro BTFO again.
>>
>>388355384
doesn't he do the exact same thing in the anime
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>>388355491
In Dokkan, he and black have "pure hearts", so Devilman's beam doesn't work on him.

He's not really bad, he just fights for what he believes in to be a greater good.
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>>388355475
>Fusion isn't additive; it's exponential,
Source?
>>
>>388351195
The same result happened in the manga too if you've forgotten already. Merged Zamasu gained the ability to clone himself infinitely.
>>
>>388355667

>Goku + Vegeta can't do shit to Buu
>Vegito kicks his ass in seconds
>>
>>388355632
It's both that and the Kaioken taking its toll.
>>
>>388355632
He's clearly shitposting anon
>>
>>388355691

Cloning has been in DB since Tien appeared.
>>
How difficult is this game to play?

I've never been good at doing big combos in Guilty Gear or Blazblue, I just do very basic shit.
>>
GT chadten > Super chadhan
prove me wrong
>>
>>388355741
So no source then? Also Elder Kaioshin said that was become of the rival between then
>>
>>388355374
sun wu kong did it
and guess what kid goku is based loosely on sun wu kong
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>>388355351
next one, it's pretty basic
sorry for camera, there was no stuff available to hold my cam on the 2nd day I was there
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>>388355509
https://youtu.be/E7C0R3DdOfk

https://youtu.be/HYMtOwBSi9A

ok
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>>388355632

Goku loses because his body can't stand KK
>>
Superfags act like zamasu was such a deep original character but my question to you is have you ever played a jrpg? It's a very common plot. I do like the plot but they fumbled it.
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>>388355818
Super Gohan has a job, wife kid and is now in his prime in terms of power.
Goten just fucks around at home.
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>>388355903
Nah he gave up.
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>>388355901

>Comparing Kai and Original when we were clearly talking about Super and Original

You had one fucking job
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>>388354851
SS4 is the best transformation, no one can deny this
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>>388355990
are you legitimately fucking retarded? we are comparing his old voice to his new voice he uses in kai and super
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>>388355990
It's literally the same voice actor throughout DBZ, GT and Super you absolute retard. Clean your ears.
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>>388355818
This. At least Goten is somewhat competent.
>>
>>388355475
>>388355594

>Yet the anime expects me to believe his strentgh was close to vegito
>vegito

Do Toeicucks know how to read? It doesn't matter whether the fusion is exponential or additive, Goku and Vegeta are much stronger fusion materials than Zamasu and Black. Vegito should be much stronger regardless.
>>
>>388355475
your point? vegito should still be significantly stronger
>>
>>388356080

Except your inability to use a clip from Super just proves you KNOW it's the same as original, regardless of Kai
>>
so was that Android 17 rumor false? The one where the voice actor said that he did a lot of voice over work for this game.
>>
>>388354708
Read the manga instead.
Faster pace and less bullshit.
>>
>>388356073
>pink
>eyeliner
>magic clothes
>doesn't even look like a super saiyan
It might just be the worst.
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>>388355650
>Killing people is good
k
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>>388356203

He's an assist for 18
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>>388355901
I really wish we'd get base Vegeta and Majin separately
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>>388356293
>caring about ningen
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>>388356073
I concur with you. It's a really good looking transformation. It's really creative use of body hair and really has that aura of "ultimate power" to it.
>>
>>388356203
He'll probably be prominent in the story, atleast that brief bit of Krillin seemingly dead with 18 and 17 there seemed to indicate.
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>>388356293
Goku killed a fuck ton of people as a kid and it still didn't work on him.
The devilmite beam works entirely on if you perceive your actions as evil in some way.
>>
>>388356184
I picked those two because they are of the same scene you absolute retard.
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>>388356523

and yet, you still haven't posted any evidence from Super.
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>>388356262
>not pink, this is a weak way of attacking the design
>basically exaggerated mageta eyes with color
>magic fusion vest never complained about
>this somehow being an issue or new
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>>388355270
Goku said that he wanted to see the niple guy fight because beerus said he was the strongest, and there was nothing to loose in this match.
Before that page goku outclassed Hit. That's just goku being cocky that there was no way he could loose the fight
>>
Is 17 his own character? Or just a double with 18?
>>
NEW THREAD

>>388356747
>>388356747
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>>388353839
https://youtu.be/QoO7N-1cfDQ
https://youtu.be/pNh1Gxtyn48
https://youtu.be/Wv2KzLje7nc

These should all suffice
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>>388355475
Do you know math?
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>>388356586
i hope for your sake you're trolling and not just a gigantic retard.
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>>388356798
Let superfags have this one so they can keep discussing their show. Someone make another one.
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>>388356613
Dude Goku is fucking pink.
It's around his eyes you idiot.
The Fusion dance is literally magic which is why it doesn't need explaining not a natural form that isn't magic.
Are you seriously trying to say there's not a consistency in Super Saiyan forms when 4 is the only outlier?
>>
>>388356931

Still no Super footage to prove they sound different...
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>>388356798
This isn't a general you fucking retard.
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>>388356801
>that goten vs gohan
seriously?
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>>388356990
He's not fucking pink dumbass. He's literally red. Oh and let me guess, you like the new limit breaker form don't you?
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>>388357210
>He's not fucking pink dumbass
Every scene he appears in and nearly every game SSB Goku is pink. This is a cold hard fact.
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>>388357210
>you like the new limit breaker form don't you?
Not that anon but I like that it's just buffer (by Super standards only, but it's something) Goku with hair more on end instead of more different colored hair like Super Saiyan. The eyes are odd though.
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>>388357425
He's scarlet dumb dumb. Look it up.
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