How do encourage people socialize in MMO games again?

All socializable people ended up here, keeping bait threads hitting the bumplimit

>>388331356
normies resegregation nao

Make it so socializing gives XP

make the gameplay good

>>388331510
Oh god no that's how you level up IRL too. I play the games to escape that.

>>388331356
Get rid of queuing up for an instanced event and wikis.
Neither will ever happen but that is what would need to be done.

remove datamining

>>388331356
Make content challanging enough to force them to group up

There I did it

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>>388331746
>tfw you move to a new town and start with 0 faction relations with the local cliques
>repeatable quests were removed a decade ago

>>388332595
yup
this
there is literally 0 reason to talk to anyone in wow and i cant imagine the like two other mmos are that different

>>388332595
>>388332617
this. MMO's are going to shit because there's no need to explore or experiment anymore.

>>388331356
i really like the art style of this whos the fag who did it?

>the game doesn't force me to socialize so I WON'T
>why are all those people talking with each other and not me, how do we encourage people to socialize in MMO games again
autism thread

>>388331356

What MMO out there lets you make the biggest tits?

>>388332838
Not only could you have reversed, but there's a watermark you fucking retard

>>388333269
WOW.... uh.... rude much?

there should be a single player mode

>>388331356
>those fucking fingers

>>388333063
good question. If modded WoW doesn't count I'd say Norn titties, but that's kinda cheating since they are half giants.

>>388331356
The way to do this would kill the game, you simply cannot do it anymore

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Remove all auto-matchmaking, that killed all dialogue between people

Remove server transfers, that removed all servers sense of community.

That's all you need to do. MMO developers themselves killed the socialization.

>>388332595
Pretty sure people would just stop playing.

>>388333565
full image?

>>388333269
Yeah your right shortly after making the comment i reverse image searched dident notice the watermark somehow though

>>388331356
Easy.

No auto-grouping system for group content.

Instant requirement for communication and socialization, which lends to the building of an internal community that was all but lost when automatic grouping was introduced.

No, it cannot be optional, because the convenience of the function means it will always be used.

Not so thinly veiled porn thread?

>>388331356
Remove all cross-server features.
All bgs, dungeons and raids are done with people from your server.
If you behave like an ass - you get ostracized.
If you're a total bro - you make lotsa friends.

The only downside is that it will reduce WoW already declining pop to below 1m.

So what did you ERP as last, /v/??

>>388333565
People would refuse to play the game, there is simply too much choice now.

You can't give people things and then take them away after, they get used to those things.

>>388333024

Except even if you try to be social in dungeons odds are that nobody will say a word back to you besides an initial "hello" of some kind. Most runs you might as well be playing with fucking bots for all the company you get from the average player.

>>388334003
I currently erp as a female Gnome.

>>388333063
Blade and Soul

For an asocial like me, I preferred when socializing was forced into you.
You were forced to ask someone to party with you to level up in old mmo, which sparked discussion and stuff.

>>388334107
Boring

Every content should require grouping.

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>>388334118
This was the max size when I played during the release, did they increased it?

>>388334159
Who gets forced into diapers and made to act like a preschooler.

>>388334207

I know that's alori but who made it?

>>388334207
Since everyone totally loved ff11

>>388334385
i'm about to vomit

>>388331356
ERP

>>388334414
Noname55

>>388334135
that and all the short men and manchildren that hate people were forced to put their complexes aside for a minute to cooperate or get nowhere

>>388331356
I like this image, it makes my peepee feel funny

>>388334510

this desu. being in an erp circle that shitposts the clingy fucktards while playing the game and having fun is all there is to it these days

>>388334695
How do I join an erp circle, anon?

>>388332595
>Get rid of queuing up for an instanced event

That doesn't solve anything. What happens months after an MMO launches and most of the community is at end game? How are people in early game going to level up is the population is low and there are no grouping tools? You effectively killed off any chance of your MMO surviving.

>>388334096
Considering the way some dungeon runs go for me, I never once think of the other players as bots even when they don't talk. Because bots can actually be competent sometimes.

>>388334096
>if you try to be social in dungeons

Dungeons aren't there for you to fucking socialize in. They are there so you can complete them and then move on. You think I want to sit in a fucking dungeon listening to your life story? We can do that in a city or in the open world

>>388334976

t. a fucking pleb who never got to enjoy multiple dungeon runs with the same group laughing and chatting the entire time, treating the game like an actual game and not like a second job.

>>388334096
Go do some high level M+s and tell me that you don't need some sort of coordination.

Of course you aren't gonna hear shit from other people who are running Shadowfang Keep for the 100th time to powerlevel their alt

>>388331356
The issue lies inherently in who is playing them these days. I can't boot up an MMO without some xp/hr nerd shitting on me for not manipulating game mechanics for maximum speed, or being expected to know a strategy for a dungeon before going in. I've been told to go read a guide before going into a dungeon I didn't even know the name of because of a randomized LFG system. The people who play these games do not play them in a human way that allows for experimentation or stupidity, it's all about efficiency. Even if efficient play isn't hard in a particular game, it'll still be bogged down with an expectancy to be efficient, all because current MMO players don't want to waste time in their waste of time hobby.

You people keep blaming grouping tools as the reason socialization is gone but that's not why. The community changed. Players change. Grouping tools were added because themepark MMOs have a flaw in design in which at some point the amount of new players coming in decreases dramatically and the majority of the player base will be at max level. So now the early game, has less players and grouping and doing dungeons becomes more tedious. Now you have less people to do them with than when the game first launched. No one is going to play your MMO if it takes forever to find a group. That's not fun and it never was. So that is where tools came in.

>>388335115
Guilds and voice chat, faggot. Old MMOs are basically second jobs. I don't likes wasting time. I want to do the dungeon, not chat about your faggot dick you've been sucking

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>>388335115
>he doesn't treat mmos like a second job
Someone's getting kicked from the static

>>388334840
you fucking befriend anyone you encounter while grinding in the low level areas so you can party up and befriend higher level chars in hopes that maybe they'll give you some gear

>>388331356
That would require removing a lot of things that "have gone forward" in MMO design
>Add more grinding
Being bored makes you chatty
>Less instanced gameplay
Not just dungeons. For example guild (free company) houses in FFXIV removes a lot of the population from towns
>More quests that need 3-5 people to beat
Non-instanced group gameplay pretty much
>Removing parsers and visible ilvl
Both created elitism and shunned casual players. Anyone can already see if someone is doing badly and can kick them.

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>>388334247
You weren't playing a Gon, senpai

>>388335515
Low level areas are fucking ghost towns in most themepark MMOs. Even MMOs WITH LFG tools are fucking ghost towns

>>388335614

wew lad

>>388335563
>Being bored makes you chatty
No being bored means I stop playing and play something else. Like other people. We have so many options to entertain ourselves now.

>>388335385

All this shit is why I don't have any interest in themepark mmos anymore beyond playing with friends. Once it becomes a job I'm out, I'm not paying a sub just to work.

>Guilds and voice chat, faggot.

That's a given but you're not going to be constantly running with those people unless schedules line up perfectly. Also please stop projecting all your homosexual insecurities on to me, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>388335436

>implying I would even waste my time with a static when the rest of the game isn't fun in the first place

>>388331356
end fast travel
end instances
end mods
end in game hand holding (giant yellow '!' telling you exactly what to do)

Realistically though, you don't. MMOs are dead due to technology. Hell, gaming is dead due to technology.

Meta game is figured out, everyone gravitates toward that because it can be found out in 5 seconds of searching, and no fun is allowed. People just want that quick satisfaction of loot, which is why Tencent is a billion dollar company.

>>388335774
Doesn't need to be much more grinding. Just enough that you're forced to do something else than the main quest, or not just doing instances till the level cap. Something that keeps players in the same place for longer.

>>388336056
These too

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okay fags, I know youre all porn addicts.

Who makes the best WoW sfm webms?

>>388333928
vanilla and tbc was like this, thats why wow people love wow, not nostalgia and shit

>>388331356
She gets ORCED right?

>>388336785
ellowas

>>388336785
>>388336883
o wait you mean sfm

>>388332595

Yeah, I remember all of the great friends that I made while spamming "LFM for Gnomeregan; need healer and a tank."

Oh wait, no I don't, because I never made any friends that way, and that was not fun. It was a fucking slog.

Want to socialize in MMOs? Talk to people. They usually respond.

>>388332617
why ask people anything when mmo-champion gives everything in detail.

>>388331510
they did that in Revelation, it kinda worked, for a week, then people just afked or ignored the feature

Make all content require groups to accomplish. Sort of like Everquest 1.

>>388333565
No one cares about that shit besides nerds, people are trying to play a game and have fun not escape real life. Personally as a normie I am glad games cater to my busy schedule and the the schedule of dregs who have no lives.

>>388336785
Whoever made the pandaren one is GOAT in my book

>>388337161
This, spamming chat for a group isn't the great socializer people think it is

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>>388336785
Rexx and bombowykurczak.

>>388336785
There's too many to pick from.

Just check out Rule34 and use the WoW tag.

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>>388334096

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>>388331356
>same image again
>same thread about MMO socializing
Something ain't right here.

>>388333565
No and no.
Matchmaking is a good thing, not many people want to spam lfg for basic crummy dungeons.
Server transfers as long as they are not free do zero harm, keeping your progress and swapping is much better then starting over at lvl 0 with nothing.

>>388335436
>that human face
how horrifying

>>388334207
The opposite of this.
Stop forcing it. Stop making it feel like work.

>>388336785
ellowas made good WoW shit before now all he makes is OW because that's where the money is

I wish he'd do more pandaren

>>388338043
do you feel like you have deja vu often

Make solo content harder, seriously it's that easy.
If you ever played on Nost you'll know that playing alone for more than an hour is very unusual even when questing.

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>>388331356

You build your MMO properly and design it to be centered around group content instead of solo content.

Mabinogi was the only mmorpg that did it right
it was just too much fun hanging out with other people around a campfire making songs and making fun of fat people
too bad nexon killed it

>>388331356
add futa humans with veiny cocks!

>>388338820
This, although these days it tends to just make people drop the game faster. I think making solo content basically impossible, and then incentivizing veteran players to help new ones via some kind of EXP boost or something is the best. FFXIV has a lot of good stuff in place to help encourage that, but it's still completely possible to solo just about everything outside of instanced dungeons.

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There needs to be more socializing, or at least interacting with other players. Games need to introduce mechanics that reward them with success for completing tasks either with others' help, or having mechanics that entirely revolve around a multiplayer element. Whether that's through combat, economics, or what have you, the biggest component that will leave people talking about it is the experiences they create with other people.

>>388336883
He hasn't made shit in a few years for wow. Pandaren webm was the last one.

>>388334815
most /v/ guilds erp at night

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>Elephant tits

>>388331356
why do all MMO threads on /v/ start with or turn into into shitposting/bait threads? isn't it against the rules of 4chan to start flamewar threads?

>>388336785
itsmorti

cock fucking for days

>>388332617
fucking this
the new Legion patch hasn't even come out yet and we already know the ending, I'm fucking tired of this
Where's the fucking mystery? Where's the fucking exploration?

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>>388337698
>Rexx
>M-Muh Orc self insert
Runiclodges is good

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>>388339273

>>388339418
Oh yeah, elephant milf.

Alright lads, what's the best zone levelling order if I want to experience the best stories WoW has to offer? I've been rushed on both my characters, so most of the shit is completely unknown to me.

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>>388336785

Purplesil

>>388334840
>What happens months after an MMO launches and most of the community is at end game?
Ask Vanilla and TBC.
Worked pretty well for them

Avoid what ESO did with megaservers in a totally randomized community, but also avoid the dumbing down of content and the "content" rush attitude that makes people dispensible to each other.

Retouch with the roots of the genre, as RPG's are inspired by ROLE-PLAYING in the likes of D&D, you must create an atmosphere to bring community together. Add more mystery to the game and world that can not just be sought out online for answers and you'll always discover new things to share with players who will also share with you. Games must be carefully constructed to encourage a certain approach or mentality. And this was also part of the magic of having class roles that were unique from each other, (Warlocks being able to summon, mages being able to teleport people, Rogues picking locks in WoW for example).

When the atmosphere of the game is proper and the game is set in the right conditions than the rest may follow, player interactions should become an essential part of many systems but not always the crux of how the game is played so that there isn't entirely forced group content, but not all single player oriented either.

>>388332617
I always wondered about this, is it impossible for the devs to encrypt the data?

>>388338885
>game lives only cause some obessed fans still play it.

ff11 was a case of there was nothing else at the time. Soon as wow hit it died. Square is too stubborn to just let it go.

>>388339637
>Add more mystery to the game and world that can not just be sought out online for answers and you'll always discover new things to share with players who will also share with you.

literally not possible in the modern age, everything will be datamined to shit and spread online

>>388335614
Nigga are you dumb? He's wearing a Gon exclusive outfit.

>>388339130
I used to play a dumb shit game called Trickster, it had a fun party system, where grouping gave more exp bonuses, like 4 males, or 4 of each class, or multiple of the same class, there a quite a few combinations but it always was better to group than to be alone.

Sadly it was just a dumb grinding game, not everyone likes grinding, but at least it was something. People end up doing the same that in LFG shit, they group and never say a damn thing until I try to start a convo, but at least I didn't feel like I was playing a single player game and fighting everyone for mob tags.

>>388339723

FFXI held it's subscriber base through the release of WoW and didn't drop, it only died when Square decided to kill it off to make way for FF14.

It's still live because a small team is willing to keep it running and it still brings in money, it was and may still be SE's most profitable FF title of all time.

>>388339780

Although I realize that, and it's true- there are still games that feel like information is more accessible in talking to people in game than over looking up things online, especially since the initial release everyone is in a learning stage, but eventually that collapses.

>>388336785
>all these answers
>no mention of insignious

>>388339541
>Horde
>Undead starting zone cause of Sylvanas
>Silverpine Forest cause of Sylvanas
>Ashenvale cause of Orcs raping and pillaging Nelfs
>Stonetalon Mountains cause it feels all out war there
>Southern Barrens cause it feels like all out war there
>Plaguelands cause of Scourge/Lich King lore
>Burning Steppes cause of that one guy who punches Deathwing in the face
>Blasted Lands cause you have to to reach TBC
>Zangarmarsh cause of mushrooms
>Nagrand cause its fucking Nagrand
>Shadowmoon Valley cause its fucking Shadowmoon Valley
After that leveling slows down that you're bound to tap into each zone at least once to see if you like it or not

>>388339541
Just roll an Undead and follow the natural zone progression in Eastern Kingdoms up until 25, go do Stonetalon until roughly 30, then go back to EK until you're 58/60. All the quest stories after that point are either bad, linear or both.

>>388339606
noooo. I appreciate some of the poses but his models literally look like they're made out of clay

>>388331356
No queing
Kill the wikis
Kill twinking
Remove gear score
Less solo quests
No cash shop (duh)
Make dungeons require slow and methodical gameplay rather than let people get away with this speedrunner attitude of "my time is more important than yours go faster"

>>388332718
he looks like those new nidhog 2 characters

>>388336785
https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1502671497524.webm

reminder blender > sfm

>>388339376
I also like morti a lot because he tends to be creative, movealongmate is can also produce something great

>>388339404
>doesn't wanna watch draenei get ORCED

>>388340372
Much harder to use though.

SFM, done well, looks absolutely fantastic too.

>>388340372
yeeeeeah in terms of realism I suppose, but what gets me off are poses and speed. blender stuff is more art than porn desu desu

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>>388340329
Its like you never played a pre-wow mmo before.

>>388340185
>>388340130
Thanks lads, i did actually get a chance to pay attention to the story in Plaguelands and I loved it.

>>388340492
it's like you never played vanilla wow

>>388340492
I played dnd. Does that count? I quit wow because around cata was when I noticed people rushing dungeons so hard. Nigga I ain't playing chasing the carrot on the stick, im here for the gameplay and community and lore. Theres more to life than getting that one drop, know what I mean?

>>388337698
sauce on image?

>>388341108
http://medeister.tumblr.com/

>>388334840
Could just make it so that once you hit lvl cap, you unlock party finder for lower level instances on alts.

Downside to this is new players would be left in the dust. Don't really know of a solution for it.

>>388339541
>playing wow in 2017

Please don't. I made the same mistake a few months ago.

>>388341561
I enjoyed it, but I don't think I played since before 7.2

>>388341561
7.2 made the game somewhat playable for me at least.

yes what mmos need are more people that talk in global chat about random unrelated shit and people that use any chat outlet as a blog.

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>>388331356
By having Orcs gangbang Nelf women

>>388339541
Loremaster or nothing.

>>388340372
>reminder blender > sfm
wooahhh, really?

now you gonna tell me a good pc is better than a bad one

>>388342598
judging the amount of blender porn vs sfm porn this is not that obvious to most

>>388342671
you have no idea how hard it is to learn blender

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>>388337470
>requeing for the same shit silently every night so you can spam your same rotation is fun

>>388342445
artist?

>>388342461
I'd like to actually, but I'd like my friends to go for it with me.

>>388342858
I have friends to play with because I'm not a fucking loser unlike you weeb faggot.

>>388332595

Getting rid of queues is not going to make people socialize, people will just sit in their capital city/token hub/whatever Guild Wars has as an equivalent and spam LF TANK, HEALER in chat over and over until somebody caves.

If anything, removing queues is just going to shit up all the chat channels that people actually talk in. Where is this meme that nobody talks to each other? The only MMO I've noticed where practically nobody socializes with non-guild members is FFXIV, because people just sit in their FC house and talk to one another there.

>>388343006
Understandable. Personally I think many of the quests in modern WoW target the player too much. They're fine quests but it doesn't feel like you're one of many people playing the game like it used to.

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>>388333565
Exactly.

>No more queueing for attractions in a city while the world is completely dead
>Actually motivates devs to design a good game world because it's also seen outside the few days (or weeks, as if that ever happened anymore) it takes for people to level
>Actual communities outside guilds again when you keep seeing the same faggots every day and all the fotm faggots don't keep server-hopping every month
>Don't have to play with uncooperative third worlders because they either learn enough English to be able to join and function in groups, just play among themselves, or quit

>>388343306
It was an odd change, playing through it. Updated vanilla zones to MoP felt like you were just a member of the Horde or alliance helping your people. Suddenly Draenor makes you a commander, and in Legion you're THE hero.

Force them to reach out to one another in order to tackle challenging content.

Add inconveniences because they encourage community.

Mages that provided food, water and portals in Classic became incredibly popular because waiting on health, mana and traveling sucked. Same with healers that rezzed people because corpse runs sucked. Players would group up because fighting monsters solo sucked. And so on.

>>388342445
s-sauce

>>388344798
That's a thing I felt disappointed going into other MMOs, being unable to do all that. All damage no utility.

SWG had it nicely done where you need to visit the doctor player for a damage buff, a dancer to remove the black part of the bar and give you energy buff, and listening to a musician to get energy buff.

>>388344798
Coming from FFXI going into wow, I actually thought wow really sucked for this. Like it was easy to play on your own. In FFXI it was impossible to progress in level without finding a party through your own personal effort of communication. Looking back on vanilla though, it had that kind of thing in spades compared to what you find now in MMOs.

>>388337161
Sounds like it was your problem, not the system. I have made tons of friends in impromptu groups by simply going "Hey that was a good run im gonna add you to friends so we can run stuff later." Of course you'll get the occasionally antisocial twat who says no or steadily cuts contact, but they weren't worth it in the first place.

>>388331356
One thing I noticed after trying a few different MMOs is that the control setup really influences it. People seem a lot more chatty in RS since you don't need letter keys for anything but talking, but MMOs that use WASD and bind abilities in junk the letters makes it to where you have to completely stop what you're doing to say anything, so people don't do it as often. Then there's shit like private chat channels and what not that basically kill any public conversations so you never get scenarios like you and your friend arguing over something only to have some random douchebag swoop in and set you both straight and you end up making a new friend over it.

>>388339853
That's not Gon exclusive, I have it on my Jin.

>>388339668
Isn't that what datamining is? Decrypting data?
Anyway,the BoI devs tried to do something like that where your client would download certain things when certain conditions were met. But that would obviously be impossible for a whole patch and with them having a test realm