Why did he turn to something he swore to defeat it?

>>388322117
>Steam Machines,Steam OS,Steam Controller,Steam link

Those were good though.

>>388322117
>He literally founded Valve Software or Valve because he was tired of Microsoft's bullshit and their "System".

That's how it all starts, every time

>>388322250
None of those are good especially not first two.

Basically attempting to defeat system by creating another system.

>>388322117
CSGO was really good in 2012.
Fast forward to present and i'm utterly disgusted by it and it's playerbase.

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>>388322250
these aren't games.

Where are games? Where's vidya?

Because he realized his audience were digital hat obsessed morons so he stopped caring.

>>388322117
>>Steam Machines,Steam OS,Steam Controller,Steam link

All these are designed to save PC gaming you idiot

>steam machine
a consolized version of PC for people that dont like building their own rigs. It is designed to get normies/casuals into pc gaming

>steamOS
To promote linux as an OS. If you still dont get why we need linux you are a retard. It gives you freedom to use PCs anyway we want, instead of how microsoft or apple wants us to use them

>steam controller
Designed to make FPS faster and more precise to play on controller, so consoles FPS stop shitting the market with slow gameplay

>paid mods
that was awful, terrible implementation of what should have been a donation idea

>>388322639
>steam link

So instead of buying the next XBOX1X1obox U or psshit you just stream stuff from your PC room to the living room

>>388322117
I still don't understand why people are so fucking angry. It's not like you're shareholders at Valve or some shit. If Gaben wants to run his company to the ground it's his fucking problem, it's not your money that's on the line.

>>388322327
They are good though, they work well and make it easy to use games anywhere around the house. Not everyone likes exclusively playing games on their desktop.

>>388322383
Why aren't you complaining about the non-game things OP listed then? Oh right, you're just a contrarian.

>>388323042
No one cares how rich or poor valve is

People are mad because valve stopped making games and they ruined TF2 and CSGO

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>>388323042
Maybe because Valve has made some really good games throughout a couple of generations and people want to experience something similar but also new.

You die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain, anon

You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.

I bet if most of you met up with your younger counterpart he'd probably hate your guts too.

But the tragedy is, we all eventually become assholes no matter what we do to try to avoid it. Its like its hardcoded into human nature.

>>388322117
I don't really follow what everyone is complaining about?

What did Gabe do?
Is it as simple as not releasing a game we want?

>>388323405
>muh hardcoded

nah, if you were a villain at beginning but hide yourself all time , there would be time when your hide skin would pulled off.

Same shit happened.

>steam machine
to attract casuals
>steamOS
attracts people to use and get to know Linux more. Amazing, what's wrong with it?
>steam link
people who bought it were happy with the product. It removes the hassle of using laptop and shit and instead just gives you one small nice looking compact product that does everything for you.
>steam controller
so that people can play games they couldn't/play worse with the other controllers.
All of the above is pretty much towards saving pc gaming or enchancing it. Valve has done a lot for the pc community, maybe even saved it.

>microtransaction/hats ruined tf2, skins ruined csgo, cosmetics ruined dota
Nope. They only made those games more popular without actually effecting the game in ANY way.
>pay to win
?

Some other points I thought you'd add.
>inb4 you don't own your games on steam
You don't really own your OS either, you dont own your physical copy these days either.
>whaa they're not making games anymore
https://www.polygon.com/virtual-reality/2017/2/10/14580932/valve-is-working-on-three-full-vr-games
>whaa they will be VR exclusive
https://www.gamespot.com/articles/valve-boss-thinks-vr-exclusives-are-bad-for-gamers/1100-6441034/
>they did paid mods
Yea, I won't support them on this one and I think a donation button would be better. BUT bethesda is doing paid mods now too, and I've yet to see a backlash about it, what's up with that? It was wrong back then but we accept it now?

>>388322383
What a fat piece of shit.

>>388322383
Gamers are not human, they are dopamine addicts that should be milked for everything they are worth so that people who actually have their shit together can use their cash for more productive things.

>>388323524
>what did he do?
Made a loyal fanbase and gave them a lil' dick to suck afterwards while laughing on a pile of hat/steam money.

>>388323042
"DUDE WHY ARE YOU MAD THAT THE COMPANY THAT USED TO PUT OUT FANTASTIC GAMES IS NOW A COSMETIC ONLY COMPANY"

>>388322117
>Why did he turn to something he swore to defeat it?

Think you're making some assumptions about what things are like at Valve now. Gaben has always been one to allow people to manage themselves. Valve isn't the 30 people it used to be, now it's more than 300.

I think he has very little to no grip on the company anymore. Worse yet due to their flat level management methods I think people just come in and fuck off all day. Gaben is old and tired and Valve is massive and stagnant now.

It's a shame.

>>388323123
A lot of games don't work properly or at all with SteamOS. Sprites flicker, random freeze-crashes, and plain error-messages at startup.
SteamOS is a failure so far. I've had it for a long time, but I've changed back to Windows because I can start big picture mode by pressing the xbox-button anyway, and it runs all of my games.

>>388324080
It sucks that this is probably close to the truth. I'm literally weeping from my asshole over here.

>>388323880
I would be fine with all this cosmetic shit, death of HL... if gaben put his money into things that mattered.But seriously what the fuck does he do with all that money?

>>388324080
Eh, if Gabe really cared he could do something about it, he has power and influence, this's not a position to sit on a toilet after a ten burritos and watch your legacy burn to the ground or become the like of EA.

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>>388322117
I'll always remember GabeN for his long swinging cock.

>>388324429
What the fuck?
It should be thicker. The censor made it smaller.

>>388324397
This is about as ignorant as it gets. He is one of the leading sponsors of children in Africa. Read a book before opening your cum storage unit about shit you don't know anything about.

>>388323236
>>388323321
>>388323987
>People are mad because valve stopped making games
Yeah but why? I understand being sad or disappointed, but mad? Like it's their responsibility, their duty to make you the games you want?

>>388324080
In Valve's introduction-manual for new employees it says someting along the lines of "noone is your boss, especially not Gabe Newell", so I guess he doesn't really have any ruling over what the company does with itself, so his opinions/visions might just be completely unconsidered at this point.

>>388324429

Even his cock can't be bothered anymore. I''m assuming based on that length, and the fact that there are women of breeding stock present, that he is at least semi-erect but the fucking thing is still pointed straight south.

>>388324592
t. Autism

>>388324601
That was actually a tongue in ass cheek way of saying "you are free but you better do what Gabe says".

>>388322117
The more things change the more they stay the same.

>>388324592
Back in the day they have made a really strong fanbase, no need in having bachelor in logic to understand what happens when you shit on a mob.

>>388324589
>He is one of the leading sponsors of children in Africa.

explain to me how propping up the overpopulated cesspit of mentally challenged people that is africa is a good thing

>>388324898
lol fuck off racist fuck SHLUMPF
TWO SCOOPS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>388324592
>Like it's their responsibility, their duty
Yeah it is actually you fucking moron. Valve specifically stated that'd we would be getting Episode 3 not too long after episode 2 and they put a deadline for 2010. Problem is that's it's been 13 fucking years and 7 since the deadline. Even worse is how valve literally will not discuss or even mention anything related to it.

>>388322639
>Steam Machine
>Saving anything
Why the fuck would i buy a pre-built computer, let alone one running an OS nobody uses?

>>388324589
Damn what a retard lmfao

>>388324429
now you know he nailed the fuck out of those two. i reckon the one on the left received permanent damage from that warty monster hanging from his guts. the one on the right probably didn't exactly take it like a champ either but she looks like she can bounce back from a walloping.

>>388324589
>He is one of the leading sponsors of children in Africa
that should make you like him even less. muh starving niglet on welfare that will literally go on to have 8 children

>>388322117
insidious lies and good pr disguising a very clever insight into a paradigm shift

valve was never good, it was always very good at lying and clever as a bussiness, you can look at gabe's responses to the paid mod controversy for examples of how he manages to words things in a way that is subtly ambiguous while everyone takes the bait

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It's not a meme OP

>>388324589
What does this charity do?

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>>388325220

They have eight children because six of them will die before age 10. Show a little compassion.

>>388324592
>But why
Because instead of making those games, they're doing shitty things.

>>388322117
Maybe they aren't allowed to make games.
Unless they include (((diversity)))
And they refused.

>>388322117
He doesn't have a choice. He either increases the past year revenue, or dies in the stock market followed by investors getting out.
That is always the problem, if you don't make more than the last year, you loose.

>He literally founded Valve Software or Valve because he was tired of Microsoft's bullshit and their "System".

Didn't know that valve was not a private company anymore with employees being free to move to what ever projects they want

>>388325670
>Valve
>Investors
Aren't they private?

>>388322117

>He literally founded Valve Software or Valve because he was tired of Microsoft's bullshit and their "System".

No, he literally founded Valve because he wanted a bigger piece of the pie.

Look at what Gabe did for a living before Valve for fucks sake.

He's been a money grabbing shyster his entire career.

>>388325663
based gabe

>>388325670

Valve isn't even on the Stock market you underage fucktard. Stop parroting shit you've heard about completely unrelated shit.

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>>388324429

>>388322117
>He revitalized PC gaming
What he did was kill physical games. Almost entirely for PC and still notably so for consoles.

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>>388322117
People can't continue doing everything all the time. You will run out of gas some day. But stopping the money making machine is pure cretinism, so it's handed to other people to run, for whom it's just ordinary work for money.

The industry is in a terrible position where the old guard are tired, out of touch family men who just want to retire. Their middle aged fans are sick of how corrupt it became and want nothing to do with it. And the youngsters never experienced the gaming scene of the past, and the current corporate bullshit is all they know. They are the ones who run things these days, genuinely believing that the conveyor belt milking franchises is an art machine which they dreamed to work on in their childhood.

It's exactly what happens with governments. Either they remain in power long enough to turn everything into an old fart conservative dystopia , or we get the influx of brainwashed young brats, with their "progressive thinking" and shitting on traditions non stop.

honestly can't stand how contrarian /v/ has gotten with Valve lately, you fucks are biting the hand that feeds you

>>388323236
>ruined TF2 and CSGO

TF2 is like 10 years old. Tell me what other games that are 5 years old are still supported and they don't have any dlcs.

CSGO is fine as it is. It does not need to updated every day. Counter strike is a static game.

>>388326154
>hand that feeds
Is Valve paying my paycheck?

>>388326154

>you fucks are biting the hand that feeds you

I don't think you even know what that means.

>>388326154
>biting the hand that feeds you
What do you mean by this?

>>388326204
>>388326291
>>388326306
you can't turn on Valve just because you got 'confirmation' that episode 3 isn't happening, they do far too much good for the industry for you to throw a childish rebellion like this. the only reason you're so skeptical of Valve is precisely because they've almost been too good for us, it's hard to believe

>>388326154
t.valve employee

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>>388325401
expect westerns giving them healthcare and food keeps those niglets alive and then when they are 20 they come to europe to rape, steal and murder

>>388326408
>they do far too much good for the industry for you to throw a childish rebellion like this.
Introduced the RNG crate system that plagues almost every single Triple A multiplayer game released
Y-yeah thanks Valve

>>388326154
Gaben stop

>>388326204
With the amount of taxes these guys pay they probably do contribute a sizable sum to your autism bux.

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>>388326408
>You can't
Don't fucking tell me what I can and can't do you nigger.

>>388322117
Power corrupts. Priorities change. Perspectives change.

>>388326495
>Paycheck
>Autism bux
Fuck off underageb&.I work for my salary unlike you poorfags. And the company I work for has zero affiliation with Valve.

>>388324429
thats his fucking leg

lmao

>>388326408
>they do far too much good for the industry
Monopolicing the market and trying to put a price tag on mods is not exactly what i call "good"

>>388324589
>He is one of the leading sponsors of children in Africa.
>throwing money into the perpetually hopeless and doomed shithole known as Africa

Look at the hundreds of billions of dollars that has been given to Africa. How far have they come?

>>388326569
>y-yeah guys i do this for sure haha
lmao

>>388326408

They have done absolutely nothing good for the industry you clueless fucktard.

Steam from it's very inception was bad for the consumer and it's only gotten worse over the last decade.

>>388322117
its simple and no one wants to admit it.
its the way valve is run. its groups of people making random games with their clicks and have almost no direction.

>>388325670
Fuck off, you are full of shit

>>388322117
>>388322250
>Steam Machines
Valve wanted to break into the console market without realizing that consoles need to follow a rigid system for their skus instead of having every hardware company shit out their own version of the damn thing. Also, they need an anchor of exclusive first party games to get a foothold in the first place.
>Steam OS
Majority of their customers use windows, at any time Microsoft could launch their own competitive service(they failed, twice) or just outright make steam break on windows (highly unlikely) but the threat is always there no matter how small. And they didn't want to be tied to that fact.
>Steam Controller
Focused too much on trying to replicate mouse precision aiming that they skimped on every other part of what makes a controller good.
>Steam link
Probably their only success as it did what it set out to do fairly well.

Valve cannot into anything hardware related or software outside of their own store and games as a service so they doubled down on it.

>>388322117
What valve game has pay to win bullshit?

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>>388322117

literally NO benefit to making HL3

>the most hyped game of all time
>no way to please everyone or live up to hype
>ppl get assblasted that it didn't live up to hype
>start complaining and saying Valve sucks
>start complaining and saying Steam sucks
>organizes angry rabid fanbase to leave Steam

or

>do nothing
>sit back and profit from Steam for eternity

wow, tough choice

>>388326838
>>ppl get assblasted that it didn't live up to hype
Judging by that script that marc released it would have definitely. Valve are just fucking lazy.

>>388326679
>he says after he buys a shitton of games at incredible low prices with free cloud saves, achievements, and easy mod support

>>388323042
No but all my vidya is on the line.

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>>388322117
>You cant just ignore the all principles,foundation you built for more money.
You have to be 18 to post here kiddo.
>>388325373
Give Gabe a sweet tax break.

>>388326801
>Valve cannot into anything hardware related or software outside (...) games
Not anymore.

>>388325670
>investors
he literally owns all company

>>388322117
You don't get how people get older and complacent? You'll understand someday junior.

>>388326638
There are varieties of charities that "support" Africa and most of them are just like you said useless programs just giving them away free shit, but then there are other charities that are actually useful and build infrastructures, help with education, health... so if it's one of those charities then it's not such a bad way to help those people I'd say.

>>388326084
BAYOT

>>388327137
The problem is that the later charities are like a drop in the water in both cases

>>388325401
No.
Keeping them alive is against nature. They are not able to survive on their own they should just go extinct. And all those millions spent there could be used to a cause that would actually improve humanity instead of keeping its old parts alive.

>>388322117
To be fair trying to get people to play games on Linux is only a good thing, even if the project itself was a failure.

Not saying that you should never use Windows or anything like that, but competition is only good, just look at what happened to steam.

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>>388327104
So why this cuck never stopped innovating or "stealing" until he died?

>>388322383
Well fuck, I literally got that same polo Gabe's wearing (but in a smaller size).

>>388326475
Without paid transactions multiplayer games can't survive due to servers costs. If you want your game to continuously have an official server, the devs must have a way to pay the server fees.
That's why i'm okay with microtransactions as long as it is cosmetic stuff. Not cancerous progression stuff.

>>388322117
>He literally founded Valve Software or Valve because he was tired of Microsoft's bullshit and their "System".
You're so full of shit, Microsoft made Gabe and co. Millionaires. They wouldn't have been able to make HL without them. I swear you fucking idiots romanticize everything for the sake of drama and cheap replies.

>>388326661
>He even stutters in his rebuttal
Christ you autists.

>>388327274
That is true sadly.

>>388324589
you see all these rich people dumping money on africa but the place never get better because the warlords end up getting all the money

So why are we angry with valve again?

I cant seem to figure out the outrage this time

>>388327639
Or how about actually releasing quality expansions and multiplayer maps? Cosmetics should be unlockable in game by doing shit IN GAME not from outside fucking purchases

>>388327639
>the 30% we get from every steam sale is not enough to keep some shitty servers :v)
>Please buy keys goy :^)

>>388327639
>believing this

lmao kill yourself. Games did fine since forever with their services. Game price is more then enough to pay for servers.

>>388327802

One of Valve's former writers posted what was possibly going to be Episode 3's plot online. It is the final nail in the coffin for people who thought Valve might still be secretly working on something HL related.

>>388327525
Didn't CWC used to wear a polo like that?

>>388327809
So you are saying to use revenue from other games sales to keep their own alive?
What if, for some weird reason, the cut they got from other games is used!on the ridulous bandwidth and servers steam has to allow all of you to download games from steam?

>>388327961
so were fictionally angry for a fictional game that could fictionally have been made but wasnt

got it so its "Schrodinger's halflife3" anger

>>388327807
Expansions and new maps require money for all the dev and design work. And you would still need the money to keep the servers afloat.
Look at dota, there is still a lot of gameplay content coming out. Just because TF2 wasn't as big as CSGO and dota, to keep some devs on it doesn't mean they are suddendly bad guys.

>>388328298
Then what the fuck is almost every single multiplayer game before 2010? Before Valve shat it all up

>>388326982

I haven't bought shit on Steam.

Jewing developers out of money by buying discounted games is one of the worst things you could possibly do.

Cloud saves are literally worthless, achievements even more so, and believe it or not, mods were a thing before Steam began ruining them.

>>388328482
member gamespy? thats right you dont

>>388327847
You know that servers are a continuous thing, not a pay once thing. That's why so many old games have their official server shutting down even with an active community.
And most of old games net code was not as server sided like now. Players hosted the game on their machines and the servers were just trackers of what game to join.
Now games run server side, and you computer only receives the needed information for you to play. This reduced latency cheating and strain on the host hardware.

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>>388328168
You must be 25 or older to post about this topic.

>>388328168
I mean that's definitely not what the cat paradox was about but ok

>>388328621
people forgot that earlier multiplayer servers/lobby arent a thing you need an ip and shit to get things working

also most early internet multiplayer games were just lans being connected with dialup

>>388322117

Gabe is there but hes not involved in the day to day happenings at the company, he just plays Dota 2.

Valve employees get massive bonuses depending on how well they do at an review that tries to measure how much value they created that year. Its easy to pad your stats for the review when you can say "I shipped 5 million dollars worth of CSGO skins"

Feel free to read their glassdoor reviews

>>388322250

Are you stupid or something? They released all of those, barely supported them, and now all of those are on life support and barely acknowledged except maybe the steam link. Their flat management policy is the ruin of the company. They cant focus on anything except adding microtransactions and gambling mechanics to all their new crap.

>>388323405
>I bet if most of you met up with your younger counterpart he'd probably hate your guts too.
My younger self was a racist hyper-sensitive christian fundamentalist. I'd hate him.

>>388322117
>revitalized PC gaming
No they didnt what are you smoking to think this?

>>388323405
>I bet if most of you met up with your younger counterpart he'd probably hate your guts too.

Probably, my younger self was a pussy who was too afraid to even grab a tit. I'm sure he rationalized it to himself by imagining he is some sort of 'nice guy' who respects women, god I hate that asshole.

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>>388322117

>one activation key bound to one account
>online activation DRM
>extra client that was literal shit at release DRM

Nah friendo, he was always cancer. You're just too young to remember a world with only cd/dvd DRM.

>>388322117
DOES ANYONE

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>>388329317
>barely supported
>on life support
Valve just released new updates for SteamOS and has a fairly large team working on it.
Specifically the work they've done on open source graphics drivers for it is really impressive.

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>>388324429
That can't be real... can it?

>>388330960

Whats your source for that image because all I found from reverse image search was another /v/ thread.

That said, my games still run like total ass on Linux anything. Doesn't matter the distro. Windows 10 might be shit but I have extreme doubts that any game will run better on Linux than Windows.

>>388326408
Valve has never done anything good for the industry you fucktard. All they've done is harm the industry, provide anti-consumer policies, and kill video games. Fuck off.

So is it time for /v/ to FINALLY accept that Valve is objectively worse and more evil than Activision, EA, Sony and Microsoft?

>>388331918
My pc can barely run min gfx rocket league, but in linux I did get some more fps out of it.

>>388326408

>add gambling to every single thing they release now (crates & keys, steam trading cards)
>paid mods
>ignored fans for years regarding info for Half Life
>cram their own DRM into video games on top of whatever the developer wants crammed into the game as well after talking about how DRM doesn't work and is bad for the industry

>>388332278
Indie devs disagree.

>>388332507
Windows is a bloated mess, that's no surprise at all.

>>388332591
indie devs opinions don't matter

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Post yfw Valve became the very thing they swore to destroy

>>388322639
>a consolized version of PC for people that dont like building their own rigs. It is designed to get normies/casuals into pc gaming
One could argue that's a bad thing for PC gaming.

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>>388331918
Literally says Phoronix on the image. They're one of the only sites around that regularly does Linux game benchmarks.
The Mesa driver for AMD hardware is a lot faster than AMD's own driver. The tests for new hardware that AMD hasn't had time to fix yet is especially eye opening.

>I have extreme doubts that any game will run better on Linux than Windows.
Games built from the start with cross-platform APIs can be faster, sometimes much faster on Linux.
D3D->OpenGL ports suffer about 20% performance degradation, but that's down to how the non-standard D3D workflow doesn't map well to the high level standard.
D3D->Vulkan on the other hand can be just about as fast as Windows

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>>388322117
>He literally founded Valve Software or Valve because he was tired of Microsoft's bullshit and their "System".
He did not. He founded Valve because he learned a lot and made dozens of Millions as an executive at Microsoft. He also met John Carmack while working for Microsoft (he had Doom as a feature game which made him a lot of money, and he stole UI elements to improve Windows 95/3.x). He also had Carmack's stolen engine code and figured why not open a game studio and turn it into a service/marketplace.

He's king hooknose and nothing else.

After Half-Life 1 every single title was effectively purchased. He saw small studios working on mods or titles, purchased them and hired the moders, rebadged it and said he helped make it. Then tied it to his store exclusively.

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>>388324429
>upper body shadow doesnt match face light

someone should be paying me for this