>You lived long enough to see him become the villain

He's been a villain for years, where the fuck have you been? Was him trying to monetize mods not a big enough flag for you?

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Gabe has been the "villain" for years now, you're just mentally retarded if you haven't realized that until it's been more or less officially confirmed HL3 is dead.

>>388315623
>>388315643
This. Seriously OP, get your shit together.

I wish I had killed myself back in 2012
Now I don't even have the willpower to do that

>>388315553

>skims 30% off the top of all games sold on steam

>TF2 only exists to sell micro-transactions & keys to crates, to skim money from sales of crate items

>CS:GO only exists to sell micro-transactions & keys to crates, to skim money from sales of crate items

>DOTA only exists to sell micro-transactions & keys to crates, to skim money from sales of crate items

>Created game trading cards to skim money from sales of said cards

>Encouraged PUBG devs to sell micro-transactions & keys to crates, to skim money from sales of crate items

>Killed L4D3 not enough raw profit

>Killed HL3 not enough raw profit

>Is developing a trading card MOBA

Valve died on August 13th 2009

>>388315553
serious question, why does he come across as such an asshole?

he was always the villain but /v/ was too stupid to realize it until recently

>>388315553
where's the picture with the loli on the monitor

>>388317349
Because the company he founded and represents has gone from being one of the paragons of the industry, to one of the most jewish.

Over the years, Valve has given up everything that put them on the map for the sake of higher profit, and that's disgusting.

>>388317273
>skims 30% off the top of all games sold on steam
Literally nothing wrong with this, every store takes around 25% of profit from stuff they sell if they do not own it.
Like for example I printed tshirts with custom print and brought them to the store to sell and they took 25% off it, which is completely fine and logical. That's how business works.
>TF2 only exists to sell micro-transactions & keys to crates, to skim money from sales of crate items
>CS:GO only exists to sell micro-transactions & keys to crates, to skim money from sales of crate items
>DOTA only exists to sell micro-transactions & keys to crates, to skim money from sales of crate items
Cosmetics do not affect gameplay and those games are solid in terms of gameplay.
also
>SELLING THINGS IS BAAAAAAAD
>Killed L4D3 not enough raw profit
Proof?
>Is developing a trading card MOBA
No proof it's moba plus, consider quality of previous valve games, it could easily kill off cancer like heartstone. I actually wouldn't mind a good balanced card game.

breen gaben

Gabe is literally the devil of the gaming industry, since he's singe handedly responsible for everything bad that has ever happened.

>>388317653
>it could easily kill off cancer like heartstone
Not sure why you think that a literal Hearthstone clone won't be cancer too, but okay.

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>tfw used to be a rabid Valve fanboy in the late 00's and early 10's

I know the word cringe has lost all meaning... but fuck damn I cringe my fucking sphincter tighter than an ISS airlock when I think about some of the posts I used to write in their defence

>>388317753
wait wait, so hes responsible for the SJW cancer thats infested the industry since gamer gate? whats his end game?

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>>388315553
imagine if he had just stayed a game dev, what sort of masterpieces we would of had by now.

>making money is wrong
Communists.

>>388317857
He's also responsible for DRM cancer, microtransaction cancer, F2P cancer and basically everything else cancerous about the gaming industry.

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>>388317653
>being this much of a Pcbro
Riddle me this, faggo.

If there's nothing wrong with Valve taking 30% off of each sale, why is Darkest Dungeon $25 on Steam and $15 on GoG? That's a 67% price hike.

Steam's 30% cut is anti-consumer. All it does is drive up prices for damn near every game that isn't $60.

>>388317890
Wow it's almost as if making money also require you to act in amoral ways. Who would have thought that wanting to make money also makes you evil?

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Valve even invented the cancerous lootcrates

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>>388317653
Imagine being such a Valvefag that you genuinely wasted time countering arguments with points most people don't give a shit about. What's your Steam level, cuck?

>>388317653
>Literally nothing wrong with this, every store takes around 25% of profit from stuff they sell if they do not own it.

that's because of physical limitations of a brick and mortar store, no reason for it when you're buying and using the product digitally

>>388315553
What do you think he is? He's always a businessman who crave for profits, that's what business for.

>>388317890
Nothing wrong with making money. Doesn't mean I have to like their business practices.

He has literally done nothing wrong.

His platform is decent, the DRM is optional for publishers, the games are good and well supported.

>>388318187
>He has literally done nothing wrong.
Except for literally everything, he has done nothing wrong.

I still like Valve

>>388315623
fpbp

Only fools and memers didn't know that.
>MUH SALES PRAISE GABEEEEEEEEEEEN

Steam sales have been shit for quite a long time as well, I don't even know anymore man. I barely open it nowadays

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>>388315553
Yes goyim, he's the bad man not me who turned the industry into the mess it is today

>>388317924
I hate DRM as much as everyone else, but you have to admit that Steam is relatively lenient compared to other DRM systems like Denuvo.
Whenever possible, I buy games on GOG or GamersGate since they're DRM free, but if a game absolutely has to have DRM (and very few publishers will release a game without it nowadays), I would prefer Steam over anything else.

>>388315553
fuck off Blizzard

>>388318187
Remember that time he removed flash sales and daily deals?

I remember

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>>388315553
He was memed into being the savior of PC gaming, but he was always the villain. Don't think for a second that he was ever any different.

>>388318267
>Steam sales have been shit for quite a long time as well
no, they haven't

>>388318334
Blizzard is even more shittier.

>>388317653

>VDF finally arrived

Better be careful, you allowed a thread criticising Valve to remain up for over 30 minutes before you were to jump in. Watch out or those precious 0.01 cents a word cheques will stop arriving.

>>388318369
this, he learned his sheisty tactics from Microsoft itself

>>388318187
Same camp as you. As a consumer in this industry Gabe has been nothing except a force for good. I might be singing a different tune were I a dev or competitor, but I'm not.

Steam's one infuriating shortcoming is its terrible customer support (the parts that aren't automated).

>>388317653
Look at this butthurt...kek

>>388318454
>As a consumer in this industry Gabe has been nothing except a force for good
This is the most obvious shill ever. Fuck off with your shill shit.

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>>388315553
>Blaming a singular individual in a large company for all of it's faults
This shit is on par for genuine Todd Howard hate. It's the result of bad decision making on not just one, but multiple individuals over the course of the past decade.

Stop being such a faggot, OP. The "boogyman" mentality doesn't get us anywhere, do some research and figure out what they did wrong as a company instead of just blaming it all on their figure head.

There is literally no dev or publisher that's more evil, vile or cruel than Gabe Newell. Don't even bother trying to prove me wrong, because that's facts.

>>388317653

>Killing HL3 and L4D3 is fine as long as we get a new trading card game

Haha kys my man :)

>>388318582
Gabe has the final say. Everything evil that has ever come from Valve, it has all been heartily and happily approved by Gabe.

>>388317890
Making money, sure, sure, that's natural and expected.

But making money by not sticking to your principles and fucking your original fanbase over and turning into some kind of hooknosed lassez faire devil? No.

No one likes sell outs

>>388318650
EA is worse, they literally buy companies to shut them down

>>388318582
Todd Howard hate unjustified because he's literally just the spokesman. He hand developed Morrowind but after it has no involvement in actual game development. Just there to be a mascot. Gabe is literally the head of Valve. He is the one who makes all the decisions.

>>388315553
those drinks are nasty as shit

>>388315623
>trying

he succeeeded anon.

>>388318753
And yet Gabe is still more evil than EA. EA kills individual companies, Gabe is killing the industry itself.

>>388318765
>He said developers should ignore demographics and installed base, and follow their passions, saying that "if install base really mattered, we'd all make board games, because there are a lot of tables".

Todd is based

When the fuck did /v/ become corporate cock suckers?
>"BU-BUT IT'S A BUSINESS!"
You do realize there's a little something called morality right?

>>388315553

Can someone tell me what all this is about? I'm guessing it has to do with the sticky?

>>388318854
What should he do then?

>>388318882
We're redpilling /v/ on why Gabe Newell has always been the villain of gaming. He's a force of evil.

>>388318854
>Valve is evil because it didn't release the game sequel i wanted!

>>388318917
Fucking say something about this whole mess. He specifically stated that it will be finished at some point by 2010. IT'S BEEN SEVEN YEARS

>>388315553
did anyone ever think maybe the reason discontinued the series because they knew it really wasn't that good, since after all the HL games always been about tech demo what can be done with there engine
and it wasn't that great of a game just came out at a time when nothing close stood against it?

>>388318882
>Valve announces DOTA 2 fucking card game
>It's exactly what we expect at this point: Steam market-using, crate-using, key-to-unlock F2P hamster wheel that is an almost parodical statement of contemporary Valve MADE BY VALVE
>People naturally fucking pissed off; want to see some actual Valve game development e.g. Half-Life 3 / Ep 3
>Marc Laidlaw (head writer & designer of Half Life series since 1997) quit Valve 18 months ago
>Reveals he's been writing puns and jokes and shit for DOTA 2 items the last few years, has had enough
>Yesterday just leaks the intended plot for HL:EP3
>Internet loses its shit
>Anti-Gabe sentiment reaches new heights

>>388318942

but clearly something recent happened to trigger the thread influx?

>>388319061
I actually expected HL3 to be released as a new tech demo game when Valve joined the VR hype.

>>388319061
>nothing close stood against it?
So deus ex, quake, doom, system shock, unreal, unreal tournament, halo are not good? They're damn good games why the fuck do you shitters keep parroting this bullshit?

>>388318454
Gabe has never done anything good for vidya you fucking idiot.

>>388319183
anon I'm talking about how it IS overhyped, because the games you listed are either dead, or shadows, but they never got the true recognition till way after the fact when in there class was great.

>>388319061
games were better back then you maroon

>>388319106
>>388319096

>>388315553
Bitch, he became a villain when he forced people to install his DRM client to play HL2.

>>388319319
>but they never got the true recognition till way after the fact when in there class was great.

I literally can't understand what this statement is supposed to speak to me.

>>388319008
more than half of the pc playerbase wanted, but its ok, atleast we got Artifact.

>>388319456
I'm agreeing with you, and you're still arguing

>same attire

>>388319578
Okay.

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>>388317653
>defending nu-Valve in 2017
>mfw
I didn't think that was possible after the HL3 shit storm, guess I'll give you a free (You).

Reminder that Activision would whip Valve into shape and force them to actually develop video games if by some luck's grace Valve were bought out by Activision.

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>>388315553
>bottles of old cum to drink
is he drinking aids? this explains a lot

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>>388315623
Monetizing mods is a good thing though. It motivates content creators and punishes penniless NEETs.

>>388319157
It will be a tech demo game, it will show off Valve's work on the Vulkan RadV driver.
Its Valve's ace in the hole for when Windows 10 S is released.

>>388315553
>a jew was ever the good guy

Good one.

gabe did nothing wrong
you are putting the blame on the wrong man

>>388319726
Who is that hansome bandito

>>388319804
Fuck off Gabe.

>>388319726
something its wrong when you have to pay 2.50 usd for a fishing mod and probably stolen from someone else.

>>388319691
>acitvision would fix it
Just like they fixed blizzard?

>>388315643
I think they made years ago to release HL3 if the company starts to go down but this steam money has been insane so no reason to release games. Steam is basicly netflix or fucking blockbuster now

>>388319909
I can attest to this, they don't fix shit...

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BASED GABEN AM I RIGHT FELLOW MEMBER OF THE PC MASTER RACE? REMINDER THAT THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH PAID MODS. BOY HOWDY I SURE LOVE THE TASTE OF GABES FAT JEW SEMEN

>>388319909
We got Overwatch, one of the few games worthy of being called GOTY, out of it. Imagine what would happen if Activision took Valve, got rid of incompetent idiots like Gabe Newell, cancelled failing games like CSGO and Dota, and made them work on Half-Life 3 with threats of firing. We'd finally have yet another worthy GOTY.

>>388315623
I always thought modders should have the option to sell on the workshop. Most mods are terrible and with that in place it'd help me sort out the shitty ones faster.

>>388315553

Trick question he was always the villain.

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>Be Dotafag
>Get huge tournaments
>Constant updates and new content, soon 2 new heroes
>Game is getting more and more advanced
>Sometimes comics
Wtf I hate Gaben now.

What is it like for CS:GO faggots though?

>>388317653
I bet your Steam level is in the 100s, you have 500 "friends" you never speak to and a smug anime avi with 5000 hours on Dota 2

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>>388319726
>content creators

>>388320009
So you actually want Valve to be turned into a console-first company forced to shit out uninspired game after uninspired game.

Fuckers like you are why Bungie and Id got killed.
Once great PC devs having their corpses paraded around and people pretending like they're still alive.

>>388320259
>So you actually want Valve to be turned into a console-first company forced to shit out uninspired game after uninspired game.
Better than Valve not even developing video games.

>>388320318
It's quality over quantity.

>>388318569
I'm not.
>>388319185
He centralized PC gaming. That's huge.

>all that lootbox and key money

I'd do it too

>>388315553
I don't blame Gabe for the HL3 hype nor would I expect him to make the game. His company still allows a bunch of interns to graffiti all over their older games. TF2's sad existence is infinitely worse than the non-entity that is Episode 3. Steam is still convenient and I've never seen them do anything crazy like ban critics at the request of large corporations or take away people's games for no good reason. You can still use Steam offline to the point where it is a valid piracy tool. I don't get to "own" Steam games but I can still easily keep track of hundreds of games and easily access them a decade down the line.

I understand Valve's chain of command and the quality of their work is very good (modding tools and online which put most games to shame), but their limited resources make progress extremely slow and they straight up drop anything they don't feel like working on. I can't really judge the majority of their current work since I don't know much about their VR, new engines, in-development games, etc. but I can plainly see that a lack of oversight has let low-quality, low-effort maintenance work accumulate in games which don't get enough individual attention from staff.

>>388318582
I hate Todd because of his comments about proving childhood critics wrong by becoming successful as a game developer. I view all points against him through the lens of his smugness and the idea that he is actually creating good games for unpopular, manlet nerds like himself rather than extremely casual Chad games. This is a personal dispute, I don't hate him just because Bethesda is a terrible company that makes trash games. I doubt he particularly likes himself or his games, which is the change I would like to see. He lies to everyone, up to and including himself.

Gabe runs Valve and is capable of making unpopular decisions that would ultimately lead to better games, but he has abandoned them. I don't hate him but I do blame him for creating a systematic problem.

>>388320418
Valve has been all "quality over quantity" and more "nothing over quantity and quality" the past seven years.

>>388315643
Rei a shit

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He was never on our side.

Lets all send Thank you cards to Gaben for destroying PC gaming.

>>388320505
*been less

>>388315553
>corporate man does what corporate men do
Colour me fucking surprised when he follows where money goes.

Alright /v/, it's time.

In ages past we've stood in defense of cosmetic microtransactions as a mean to oppose the rise of pay-to-win. Now it is time for a paradigm change. What we once thought were harmless additions to games have instead become the central point of the industry.

More and more we see games pandering to the lowest common denominator trying to cash in with cosmetics. Art direction is dead. Uniqueness is dead. Gameplay is dead. Innovation is dead. All that remains is e-narcissism.

Cosmetics are the reason why we never got to see EP3 or HL3. Instead, we get shit like Artifact.

At what point do we go from whining to taking action?

>>388317978
There is absolutely nothing wrong with exploiting people for your own gain. Individual > collective, you aren't entitled to anything, survival of the fittest.

>>388319809
Yeah, too bad he's only two and a half feet tall.

>>388320764
Oy vey

>>388320705
We will spite Valve by condemning cosmetic microtransactions and instead support pay-to-win microtransactions. It's the only way Valve will learn not to cross us all.

Why did everyone decide to crusade against steam/gaben just because a writer leaked the story for EPISODE 3?

Seems like quite the leap.
>i got the story finally
>time to kill gabe

>>388320421
>He centralized PC gaming. That's huge.
How is this a good thing? Are you unable to appreciate PC games unless you can buy them through a shitty social media app with a complementary serving of DRM?

>>388320821
le v ebin army xD

>>388320659
Gabe isn't a corporate man. Valve is a private company and Gabe owns almost all the shares.

it's amazing how most people never realized half life was never going to happen, now for some reason they are angry at DOTA, a game where they spent more time than they probably going to do on half life episode 3.

>>388320845
Wow, it's almost as if we want to teach everyone that Gabe is the evil killing gaming with vile and malicious shit like cosmetic DLC, digital distribution and VR.

>>388317273
LFD3 never existed. It was mere concept art.Those screens you saw were mere a mission ported to source 2 to show capabilities of engine.


t.valve developer.

>>388317273
Yeah a lot of that is really shitty, but I don't get the meme about them taking 30% of the sale being a terrible thing. If you look at the book or music industry, the writers/artists are the ones that get 30% of the overall digital sale, with the average cut of a physical sale being 15-20%. It's not like valve is taking double what everyone else is taking either, since that's about the same or better than what you'd get selling physically or at a place like gamestop.

>>388321003
And you decided to do this simply because you got a free fanfic?

Makes no sense.

>>388315802
>>388315623
>saved PC gaming
>the villain
Get down on your hands and knees you pretentious plebs

>>388317890
He made money from Orange box which he sold for 25$ included Half life 2,Episode 1,2,TF2 and Portal.

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>>388320894
Money turns people bad, period.

Valve is doing fuck all.
Source 2 SDK in never coming out too.
Fuck gabe, this fat piece of shit, hope he dies from a heart attack.

>>388321148
We're not fighting back against evil because of a leaked plot, we're fighting back because Valve has killed a widely beloved video game series, which is nothing but an unforgivable crime that should be punished through any means possible.

>>388318582
Unlike Bethesda or Blizzard , Valve doesnt ran by share holders.
But this OP pic fag related himself.

>>388319061
So why he didnt release Half Life 3 as VR tech demo then

or Steam Controller tech demo
or Steam OS tech demo

>>388320894
If valve is a private company then he doesn't own any shares, because there are none. he owns the whole thing. which makes valves greed all the more inexcusable.
He isn't introducing all of the horrible shit like early access, paid mods and hats because a bunch of shareholders want more money, he's doing it because he WANTS to.

>>388321363
Valve Defense Force needs to fuck off.

>>388321406
I can't, I'm two posts away from a free hat

>>388319726
I agree El Toddo

>>388320845
Because it was a reminder that the old team is dead and provided closure. It made it pretty clear that even the people who sort of worked on Episode 3 have either completely given up or been unable to work on it the past decade. They were never making progress.

This is what a lot of people already expected but now that it's being indirectly stated by one of the writers, the idea that "nobody really knows for sure" has been basically extinguished. That's still where we are technically, since the game could still be picked up and come out, but this is the first clear message of surrender in all of Valve's history.

You're right, it is just a mood thing. This doesn't change anything other than the way people perceive Episode 3. That's still enough for people to get mad though, since it makes other criticisms of Valve easier to make. If you have no faith they are going to come out with an interesting product and prove you wrong, you just have years of stupid decisions that everyone hates to look back on to predict the future. If you say nothing, there is basically no chance anything will change.

People are ultimately angry just because they want a new game that's not a trendy cash grab or balance changes for Dota. The story leaks are cementing the belief that a new game will never come while reminding everyone that Valve makes good games everyone has historically enjoyed. Worse offenses are committed by basically every other major game publisher every other week, but those are to be expected. This is just tragic.

He was always the villain. Popularizing DRM acceptance with Steam was the worst thing to happen to PC gaming.

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>>388317273
>>Killed L4D3 not enough raw profit

Screw L4D3, I was AT LEAST expecting of them a Midnight Riders campaign for L4D2! FOR FUCKS SAKE VALVE, COME ON

if you think Gabe and Valve is bad just because they didn't make HL3 you are a retard.

since the creation of Steam they were the bad guys.

>>388321747
Also, all that big set up of GlaDOS taking care of those just hatched crows on the Portal 2 Co-Op story. All of that for nothing, again and again... What an abusive relationship we have with Valve.

>>388321853
You're the retard here for defending Valve when they're unquestionably evil and malicious.

>>388321972
you really should stop using the internet if you think in my post i was defending Valve.

i am just saying that not releasing HL3 is not even a bad thing, they are the creators, they can do whatever they want.

releasing the biggest cancer in PC Gaming, and then for 10 years being the advocate of something they helped to destroy is the real evil thing

>>388317857
Valve created Portal so yes.

>>388317653
>it could kill Hearthstone :^)
Are you the same kind of retard that called every MMORP released in the past decade the "Warcraft Killer"? I'm not gonna write an essay on this, but games with that level of sunk cost fallacy working in their favor can't be killed by anything but themselves.

>>388315553
what the FUCK did he ever do to get this image? he was a producer not a developer

>>388315623

FPBP. How fucking ignorant do you have to be to suddenly think that Gabe is a villain? This is the man who defended paid mods, but now you suddenly think he's a villain because a game that was never anything more than a meme is officially dead?

>>388321972

Are you fucking retarded? I'm not memeing, you have to be legitimately retarded to think that someone who says VERBATIM that since the creation of Steam they were the bad guys is defending Valve.

>>388317273
>Valve died on August 13th 2009
More or less.
For me, the first serious red flag was 1USD=1EUR.

>>388320134
>>Be Dotafag
>Get huge tournaments
>Constant updates and new content, soon 2 new heroes
>Game is getting more and more advanced
>Sometimes comics

who cares if the game right now is horrible compared to 3-4 years ago?

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Gayben was always a kike he just couldn't go full jew until his company became huge

>>388323142
>that was never anything more than a meme
Lol but it wasn't which is even worse. Valave literally stated that we'd be seeing a half life episode 3/half life 3 by 2010

>>388317961
GoG takes 30 percent as well moron

>>388317653
>paying real money for cosmetics
>IT DOESNT CHANGE THE GAMEPLAY THOUGH

People like you are the reason we are in this situation..you literally enjoy eating shit and getting fucked in the ass at the same time.

>>388323372
Portal 2 was alright but we should have seen signals when Gaben went for Sony E3 and apologized & sucked their cock

>>388323086
He is a programmer you idiot.
Or was...

>>388323838
what games did he program? he's only ever credited as a producer

>>388323668
Every online store does. Its literally CC handling fees + server overhead + small profit.
There's no doubt that Valve's making money, but they're reinvesting that money into the PC platform doing stuff like hiring devs to work on RadV.

>>388323983
Do you understand how much it costs to serve around 60 GB?
You must be retarded to think that 30% are justified.

>>388323507
It's not too late, just give gabe a haircut and he might come back to us

>>388320025
Modders getting compensated for their work is a vaguely nice idea but it presents numerous problems that gaben and his fat ass don't give a shit about addressing.
In order to have it work you need a heavily regulated store to prevent people stealing other mods and trying to sell them as their own. Plus the fact that the way valve tried it modders were getting the smallest cut and it was ultimately another lazy Jew way to get gaben for undeserved dosh.

>>388317273
If this was the mannconomy update date, then i agree 100%

>>388315623
Perhaps it was when Steam was DRM.

The very beginning.

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>>388321171
>>saved PC gaming
PC gaming needed saving? IS that why you sad fucks keep attacking consoles, because they kept getting better games than you? Sounds like Steam and Gabe is well deserved for you.

>>388324087
The credit card handling fees are actually the largest chunk.
Its literally the reason why every online store takes 30%.

>>388324415
I don't fucking believe it, so please provide a source.
If the fees are so huge, then why can't they be cut if I don't buy with credit card?

>>388317890
being a money grubbing jew is ok, but dont expect people to not call you out on it. he's a greedy fuck. fact.

>>388324415
credit handling fees are 1 to 4% you dumb asshole.

>>388324718
Because how did you get the money into Steam to not use a Credit Card?
When you buy a gift card, the retail overhead and processing fees have already been taken out.

Seriously, if you think the cut that online stores are taking is bad, you haven't even started to consider how much more a brick and mortar store has to take to cover their costs.
All these people are on iTunes, Steam, Google Play, etc with a 30% cut because its so much better than what existed before.

>>388324415
The standard is like 2.9%, so the rest must be spent on keeping you wrangled, you gurgling retard

Have valvesdrones finally woken up?

>>388325159
Do you support Richard Stallman?

>>388325068
I just use paypal.
And the processing fees of paypal are around 1 dollar at best.
Steam and any other only store is in no way justified to claim 30% of the whole sale.
Serving the files costs them next to nothing compared to the profits.
Credit Card fees can't possibly be this high (although I admit that I don't know how high they truly are).

>it's another month of /v/ children discovering capitalism

>>388325006
>>388325159
You're looking at the pure per-transaction expense when a retail store runs your card through a normal scanner.
Valve is running an online store and has a ton of extra expenses and concerns like the regular PCI auditing which if you fuck it up is serious money down the drain.

>>388325407
>Steam and any other only store is in no way justified to claim 30% of the whole sale.
Do you know what the overhead at a brick and mortar store costs?
When you buy a game at Walmart, how much of that do you think actually goes to the game developer?

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>>388315553
>PCfatties take over ten years to realize that their fatty overlord is a fatty Jew.

He thanks you for over a decade of shekels, goys. His virtual monopoly thanks you for your business.

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Are there any heroes left in vidya?

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>be small indie dev
>no way to have game reach millions of pc gamers except to sell on steam
>valve gets 30% cut of each sale
why even bother?

>>388325639
What does this have to do with steam when distribution costs next to fucking nothing for them?

>>388325678
>fatties, fatty, fatty
Projecting much, butterball?

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Hope you weren't expecting a L4D3, TF3, or Portal 3.

>>388325737
>don't have to run your own store which would cost more
>every other online store also takes 30%
>producing and selling physical copies at retail costs even more

>>388325794
>Projection meme.
Thanks for the (you). I thank you for your patronage. I imagine GabeN did the same when he sold you all those games during steam sales you never played.

>>388317815
so that was you

fuck you

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>>388325807
>makes Dota 1 instead of Dota 3

>>388325794
but gaben IS a fatty sweetie.

>>388317653
kys

>>388319726
this meme is deader than chuck norris jokes.
Let it rest in peace

>>388325807
Is it some kind of autistic thing like how Japan is afraid of the number 4 to the point where theres a huge blackhole in birth records in April/4th day of a month/years ending in 4?

>>388325881
hahah the fattie is crying

>>388315553

all this butthurt HL"3" faggots. The series wasnt even good you nostalgia cucks.

so funny watching them cry about a never coming game. God its so shit

>>388325791
You're complaining about Valve taking a much smaller cut than traditional retailers.

Plus how much do you think experienced Linux admins and developers capable of building and maintaining the Steam infrastructure cost to employ? Or how much the buildings that house those servers cost to purchase, power, and cool? Valve has overhead beyond just the bandwidth bill.

>>388326235
>The series wasnt even good
I'd love to hear you explain why it wasn't, or atleast give me some shooters that are good if you consider Half life bad.

>>388326209
I know, he's such a PCfatty. XD

>>388321105
You're looking at those points incorrectly. It's suppose to be the combination of all of those things that makes Valve greedy, isolating single items on the list destroys the purpose of it. At least that's what I think that anon was going for.

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After all the bullshit Gabe has beem pulling these past years, so tell me.

Was it worth the wait?

>>388319096
>>Marc Laidlaw (head writer & designer of Half Life series since 1997) quit Valve 18 months ago
Holy shit. Has it really been nearly two years since Laidlaw left? Feels like it was just a few months ago. That, to me, was the official point at which I gave up on the idea of Half Life 3.

>>388326005
I'm not your sweetie, honey.

>>388326235
Pcbro detected

>>388326290
You must be fucking retarded, and don't have actually any fucking idea about the costs of such a distribution service.
I just can't reply to you any fucking more since you are too idiotic to understand that while selling a game and distributing it a few times per sale costs around a dollar at best, steam takes around fucking 20 dollars.

>>388326290
Now replace everything you just said and insert Sony, we'll make the subject about PSN:Plus.

Why aren't you paying for PSN+ anon? Don't you know they're a business with additional overhead?!

>>388326335
PSlards are fat because their games play themselves.

>>388318854
it's not even about morality
i dont expect businesses to be generous unless they have a small market share. it's a silly expectation unless the bitching and resentment forces them to lower prices and provide better service.

>>388326209
Ha hah! I get it. We're talking about fat people because this is a GabeN thread. Ha ha hah! You guys... LOL!

Can I get a quick gestalt on what the fuck is going on? HL3 was officially pronounced dead or something?

No matter how far Valve falls, I'll always give them props for cucking Blizzard out of Dota2.

>>388315553
you

>>388326616
>i dont expect businesses to be generous
It's not even about being generous. It's literally about something that the company has specifically stated in the past. That we'd be getting the game by 2010. And since then we've gotten nothing, no closure whatsoever. Just Valve trying their hardest to forget the series.

>>388326761
Yes and no.

Yes, it's always been dead and deep down we all knew it wasn't going to happen without a major backlash against Steam.

No because it wasn't officially shut down, it's just another community overreaction to a lead writer dumping a draft of HL3.

>2004
>buy half-life 2 for 40 fucking euros
>the case it comes in only has a meager one page leaflet and nothing else
>have to register to some online platform to install it

if you didn't know things were going to shit from day one you are a newfag in life
at least the game was good tho

Reminder that Gaben left MS and founded Valve because he saw that more people had DOOM installed on pcs than windows.
He was always only on it for the money.

>>388326961
You seem to remember that quite vividly. Don't even try to imply you haven't been a Valve shekelshoah ever since.

>>388315623
Why do you think that isn't part of what OP is talking about?

He was always a villain. Steam was always a bad thing, it's just that children were happy to be fucked over by DRM as long as it meant they could get "their" games for cheap. Only the poorfags/third worlders ever liked it, everyone with a brain knew Steam is the worst thing to happen to PC gaming.

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Gabe is Batman

I feel we have gone full circle.
Everybody hated steam when you were forced to use to to play cs.

>>388326556
>You must be fucking retarded, and don't have actually any fucking idea about the costs of such a distribution service.
No anon, I worked for a game dev back when brick and mortar was the best option, now I work for an internet company.
There's still overhead, it still costs a lot more than you think to run a store with that kind of server infrastructure servering that many users that much data.
Its just also way less than it used to cost to sell in stores and exactly as much as every other online store why almost all the small and mid size players are on Steam.
It does cost less to run your own store if you're big enough but most developers don't have reliable enough cash flow to make it work.

>steam takes around fucking 20 dollars.
The vast majority of sales on Steam are at well under new AAA MSRP. $1.50 - $3.00 is almost certainly the majority of what Valve gets.
The people buying the brand new full price games subsidize the people who buy during the sales.

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>>388315553
>this'll be the state of the board for the next week

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>>388327227
This.

>>388315553
Insolence! He spared you hundreds of dollars, supported the gaming industry greatly and yet you dare to blame this man for not delivering a sequel to an almost untopable game? Begone, you vile fool!

>valvefags steambiciles getting serious reality check

>>388327102
people like to say that Steam neutered videogames piracy
I know that the reason I've not bought a game in years, despite having played a lot, is because of it

What did you expect? He is fat.

Never trust fat people.

>>388327227
>Everybody hated steam when they were forced to install and use it to sell HL2.
>Everybody hated steam when they were forced to use it to play CS
>Everybody hated steam when they were forced to use it to play L4D2
>Everybody hated steam when they turned TF into a microtransaction machine.
>Everybody hated steam when they tried to charge for mods.
>Everybody hated steam when they announced Artifact.
>Now everybody hates steam because once again there's no HL3.
>In a week or so, everyone will go back to playing and buying on steam like none of this ever happened.

Fucking tools.

>>388317273
>not developing games simply for the love towards gamers
Gamers are really goddamn shitty and moody customers, if it wasn't for the money, all of this would still be some kind of nerdy garage dev thing for weirdos

>Gabe IS the Dyson sphere

>>388327419
This

>>388315553
>Not recognising his villainy for a long time
Guess you will learn not to sell your trust to anybody

>>388326556
You have no idea how the game industry works, do you?

>>388327563

And people like you who bashing gamers because it's hip and trendy are garbage. You don't think Valve owed their customers at LEAST some kind of official announcement? Something? Gabe strung people along for YEARS without so much as a "Sorry guys we cancelled it."

You don't think that shows a certain level of contempt for your MILLIONS of fans and customers? Fuck off.

>>388315553
he was always the villain, you easily impressionable, parroting Reddit chucklefucks just turned him into a living maymay lel pc master race ftw Gaben is so epic xD

>>388315553
He was always a piece of shit. He tried to lure the kid that leaked the HL2 code into the USA, promising that he would offer him a job at Valve. In reality he was going to have the poor kid arrested.

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>>388327419
>visit a friend as a kid
>he shows me this amazing new game he got, called Shogun Total War
>play it a bit at his place, it's great, he burns me a copy so I can play it at home
>few months later hear they're making a sequel set in Europe
>loved the first game so much I decide to buy it on release
>great game, enjoy playing it, my favorite strategy game to this day
>Rome comes out, buy it too
>Medieval 2 comes out, buy it it too
>Empire comes out, buy it too
>while trying to install my physical copy of Empire, it requires me to go online and make a Steam account
>return the game to the store, get a refund, pirate the game instead
>have not bought a TW game since
Did people really stop pirating games because of Steam? I thought it was just the younger kids getting into gaming who fell for that DRM bullshit

>>388317653
There are two things I'm gald I'm not
a) not being Anthony Burch
b) not being a subhuman Gaben dickcheese sucker

If I were honestly one of those I would have killed myself.

>>388320421
I thought steam was great when I was a kid and laughed at my dad when he warned me about having every game I owned locked to a single program. He's dead now, but I am slowly starting to realize just how right he was.

>>388323017
Fuck m....

>>388318372
Yes they have you fucking idiot, keep lapping up shit and talking about things you have no clue about you braindead spastic.

>>388318854
>morality
>meaning anything
Next time tell the mega corporations to have some morality for their customers!
Surely that will show them!

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>>388328415
Oh my friend, you once again put your expectations of intelligence too high, even if you think it's already far too low.

At least Steam isn't like Sony who will get your credit card number stolen, learn to appreciate a good thing you literal children

>>388315553
>Not recognising Gabe as a money hungry jew from the start

Valve is just exceptionally good at PR. They maintained the consumer friendly image flawlessly and managed to lure in a fanbase with the most serious case of Stockholm syndrome in existence. All of Steam's policies are blatantly anti-consumer, where you couldn't even get a refund for games for years, you buy licenses to use their games and not software, Steam Greenlight enabling broken and unfinished games to get onto the market, overpriced and aggressive microtransactions in every single multiplayer game Valve has released in the last ten years, a 30% cut of all sales and how they've fucked over people in the Steam Workshop by taking nearly all of the profit from other peoples' work.

Gabe is a cunt of proportions which dwarf even his gigantic mass.

>>388315553
It was worth the weight.

>>388320764

Remember that when someone abuse of you.

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>>388315553
>You lived long enough to see him become the villain
>you
No no no, you got it all wrong,
HE lived long enough to become a villain
His fat ass should have died of cardiac arrest a long time ago

>>388320134
Can someone edit it to make the slav girls play Heroes of Might and Magic 3?

>>388323376
Let me guess, 3-4 years ago is where you gave up the MMR grind.

>>388315553
So what's the alternative to Steam. None of them have as big of a library.

>>388330559
GoG can be pretty good. Aside from that, you might just have to switch to console. I'd rather Sony get my money than Valve at this point to be honest.

>>388330559
gog is on the upswing

>>388330559
GoG, pirating, buying games physically

>>388330559
Pirate Bay

>>388330707
>pirating
Every time I ask for a good site I either get ignored or told about a private tracker that's closed.

Valve turned to shit once they forced you to use Steam to play Counter Strike. Do you faggots even remember that?

>>388330231
Yes

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>>388317273
I'm genuinely sad that there are people, especially here on /v/, who are willing to defend micro-transactions and moba shit.

The Half Life series is now actual proof that micro-transaction key crate gambling dogshit is killing video games.

>>388330559
GOG is your best bet. You get to keep the software you buy and you actually get to buy stuff in your native currency.
>tfw Steam is still jewing Australian customers in US dollars despite an extended legal battle with the Australian government

He was always a piece of shit.
Just because console warriors kept sucking his dick on /v/ doesn't mean it wasn't merely a minority of posters.

>There are "people" who have brand loyalty and believe they are anything other than easily manipulated normalfag sheep.

>>388330763
Go to fit girl repacks and figure it out from there.

OK, what exactly did I miss? I'm not 100% sure what Gaben even did that people are particularly upset about these past few days.

>>388331361
He posted on his twitter that Half Life was a mistake and that only idiots ever cared about it

>>388315553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_QI8sxeME

>>388331445
source?

>>388331445
It was. If not for BOTW, it would be the most overrated game of all time.

>>388331445
I believe some validation is in order.

>>388315623
It took a lot of convincing for Pcbros to believe it. Gabe even said before that HL3 wouldn't be made if it couldn't be monetized enough.

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He's not even trying to hide his zionism now.

>le ebin install gentoo xD faggots moaning about digital storefronts

You need to go, stallmanfags.

>>388331445

Source/Pic or didn't happen

> Valve not only ruined their games with stupid gambling crates and jew enabling mechanics like trading but also created an easy to implement framework that is actively ruining other games with this garbage
I don't give a shit anymore.
The only positive thing to come out of this is it makes shitty greedy kike devs easier to spot since they always implement it in early access

Can one become rich without becoming a piece of shit as well?
I doubt it

>Looks like Consoles came out on top after all.

Very satisfied about these turn of events.

>>388332363
the better question is can you become rich without being a piece of shit?

>>388332363
we need to take down gaben

>>388315553

>A majority of /v/ truly believed that this corporate fuck was ever their "friend"

You did it to yourself, really. He was in it for the money 100% from the very start, just like the other company suits you love to meme about. Reggie, Shuhei, Miyamoto, all of them. Even Iwata. Only the actual employees, which yare mostly faceless, nameless goons, are the ones that have some form of real passion for games.

>>388332480
I doubt it
Fuck rich people and fuck drumpf

>>388332739

>Even Iwata

Reminder Iwata cut his pay in half during hard times

Iwata might've been there for money, sure, but DEFINITELY not 100%

does anyone have that big ass picture that pretty much explained how valve was a shit company?

>>388331604
is this a Johannesburg referendum?

>>388326130
Well Americans are afraid of the number 13 to the point where most buildings don't have a 13th floor, so it's not that far-fetched.

>>388315553
>>388315623
Can someone explain something to me. I haven't been following this shit for years and I just started researching this yesterday.

In CSGO, you spend real money to buy a texture.

But it's worse than that, you spend real money with an unfavored chance to win a "valuable" texture that's worth more than you paid in. So the house wins in the long run and it is gambling depending on how you define the category.

So it's kind of like imaginary baseball cards at this point. But it gets worse than that.

Some of these skins are worth hundreds or even thousands of dollars to other idiots. And you can sell and trade them on steam.

But you can't withdraw funds you've received from steam. So it's a proprietary currency like store credit. It's not real money.

So someone pays another player hundreds of dollars for a skin, valve pockets all the money, and they have a "transaction fee" of 15%, so they basically give the seller 85% steam store credit. If the seller buys more skins with that money, the cycle continues, if he buys a game, valve gets another 30%.

And most of the criticism I can find on this is about gambling with skins on esports matches, yet very little on the imaginary baseball card system itself, which is gambling all the same. Yet is somehow not supposed to be as reprehensible? How does everyone not hate this company? Their entire business model is about exploiting addiction psychology or being the only middle man in town for PC games.

>>388332739
>Even Iwata

Go be a dumbass elsewhere

>>388315553
He is not the only one to blame. From what I've heard most of their devs just hunt and wanna do the next big thing. All those who wanted to keep up with the old IPs left.

>>388333690
its simple. people are stupid and also dont have any self respect as a consumer

Gabe newell while owns company didn't to anything in company for years. Beside pushing to release Hatred he just plays Dota 2.

I am a software developer at Valve. ask me anything i will try my best.

>>388315553

He was always a villain

>>388334046
Is this true?
>>388333791
>From what I've heard most of their devs just hunt and wanna do the next big thing. All those who wanted to keep up with the old IPs left.

>>388333858
It's really one of those facts that just makes it that much more impossible not to be cynic about life

CSGO's player base quickly increased 6 fold when they introduced skins? And went on to be even larger? That demonstrates that far more people are entertained by wasting money on imaginary objects than playing a video game. The video game itself is a formality. It's just a platform to see and show off your skin. And then even as an esports, the community is more interested in the outcome of matches than the play itself. They might as well be watching coin flips.

>>388334046
proof?

>>388317273
>Valve died on August 13th 2009
what happened on that day?

>>388334193
Not full extent but yes.

Valve runs so much different then any other gaming company or company all together. There is no management , bosses so called , but they are there actually. To start a project in Valve you need to talk people , convince them to your project etc. While nobody called "upper management" if you piss "those" you will never make your project or whatever reality. Everybody here trying small things instead of big projects unlike old times (i guess i wasnt here). A lot of bullshitty hardware projects come and go to production but %90 of them doesnt leave prototype table.

So yes, everybody trying to find next Minecraft,CS,DOTA,GTA in someway.

It's horrible workplace if you are creative, but an amazing one if you just wanna play games and surf the web

>>388334490
There's none , i will try answer questions. I wont risk my job for 4chan. Naive if you thought that.

>>388334543
My post for your proof i guess.

>>388319726
Unironically this.

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>>388317653
>Proof?

>>388334358
yeah, youre right. i wondered how csgo had so many players a while ago and saw it spiked massively after the crate/skin system came out.

its easier to be happy in life if you lose the ability to care about what other people you dont know do. even if it screws you over indirectly. thats one reason why i dont argue with the "they are just cosmetics" crowd.

>>388325068
>Because how did you get the money into Steam to not use a Credit Card?
Debit card?

I'm 26 and never used a credit card in my life

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>>388334629
fair enough. What are you working on?

>>388334543
>It's horrible workplace if you are creative, but an amazing one if you just wanna play games and surf the web
Time to get a job there and make a waifu game with micro-panties-transaction!

>>388334990
LOL

>>388334917
I am developing new prototypes for gameplay mechanics in upcoming VR titles.

Basically what would be good to play in VR and what would be not.

One of these games set in Half Life universe kinda like Portal. Quick references there and here.(obviously for cash grab and ip recognition)

>>388334629
Is valve doing anything with Source 2? I feel like it might fall behind Unreal and Unity if they are doing this shit for so long, and as far as I remember they were doing new shit in unity, I think it was from Valve News Network. Also, is there at least a team working together on one of the other games, from VNN ass well? Those faggots said that no one will be surprised when they come with an announcement on next game development conference, I hope they don't fucking drop it halfway through. I still have hope in valve and researching their inner workings, through brochure, I can understand how they struggle with doing anything to it's conclusion. But Steam's customer support is horrible and you can't improve it with 350 fucking people, also they need to do something with it or they might end up like KODAK.

>>388315643
rei is best girl

>>388334806
>even if it screws you over indirectly.

Well this is the problem. And I'd argue it screws you directly.

The game you were playing is going to look like piss.

That surge in number of players changes the composition of the community. The thin line before 2013 were people who played the game because they like the game. The massive mountain after that is people who have a virtual vanity or gambling problem. And I'd imagine the people who played the game for the game itself get tired of this at some point and leave.

And you think, we'll I'll just play something else. Which will work most of the time, for now. But with these proven models out in the wild, this kind of thing is going to be impossible for companies to resist. In fact I wonder if it will be even possible to compete in multiplayer games without some kind of monetized skin or costume system. The problem is once an industry goes in a shitty direction, everyone has to follow to stay afloat.

>>388335380
It might be smaller intern project or this new card game made in unity. Bigger projects should proceed in Source 2 if they ever release.

all new 3 VR games made in Source 2.

Outside of these VR games Valve currently have no big active project in development.

Here and there prototypes for various games come and go.

>>388335137
shit. I actually tried the vive and honestly, its super fucking cool.

I dont like a lot of valves antics but that shit has so much potential.

Just another weird question, what languages are you using to program these vr games?

>>388318112
So what you're saying is that businessmen are junkies who use dollar signs as their fix instead of drugs?

>>388335695

Depends on framework and engine.C# and C++ is must.
If you are doing mobile then their respective languages as plus.Also network knowledge is deeply helps you

>>388335638
Are they at least proper games or just VR tech demo experiences?
>Here and there prototypes for various games come and go.
As far as I know they were thinking about making some sort of mmo in space, also fucking ricochet 2 lol, not that I cared in any way.

>>388317653
I agree with you. Let's be friends.
I'm just disappointed they never made HL3, but I see as less of a greed thing and more of a lazy thing.
I want to believe that seeing the Dyson sphere at the end and feeling the realization of futility humanity faces could have been one of the most epic experiences in videogame storytelling.

>>388325068
>All these people are on iTunes, Steam, Google Play, etc with a 30% cut because its so much better than what existed before.

They can do this because it's a closed ecosystem or they are the only big game in town. 30% is no where close to "the cost of doing business". If there was competition the cut would be a lot lower.

Sure it's fair. Not enough people would agree to 30% if it wasn't a win-win as a trend. But this is not efficient at all compared to mature industries, so that's why its bad. But we also can't do shit about it but wait for these companies to start bleeding in the water.

>>388317653
Just horrible...

>>388317961
Someone has to pay for the hosting costs. They don't have to sell their shit on steam. They could host the downloads themselves, or they can put the game on steam AND offer the game for full price on their own website without steam attached.
Key here is, they won't. It's far more profitable for them to have steam handle the hosting and downloads.
Valve is fucking lazy no doubt and steam is shit but their 30% is in no way a part of their stupid fat idiocy.

>>388317653
Your nose is literally poking right through my computer screen.

>>388318454
>As a consumer in this industry Gabe has been[...]
You are implying that Gabe is a consumer in this industry. Learn to fucking English

>>388317890

>it's a "somebody who completely fails to grasp capitalist philosophy calls other people communists for daring to criticize a supplier" episode

The theory behind why capitalism works (and it most certainly does; you can't find a system that yields better results in terms of quality of life for the average person anywhere in history) is that the market destroys people who scheme too hard against the interests of others. If Valve is pissing you off, then yeah, go use GoG whenever possible and express your dislike of Valve to game devs. That's not communism. That's healthy market correction.

>>388335963
Yeah full proper games but not full single player experience afaik none of those games are single player actually. One of them is fully online only. Other two is designed to play co-op.Local and Online.

>>388336695
Well at least it's fucking something. Sad thing but service based products or shit with subscription is the way no, no need to thank capitalism.

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>>388317653
I came here only to give a (You). Now go back to sucking Valve's cock.

>>388336853
None of these games going to release at 2017 though dont except it.

2018 is for first game and latter two are 2019 games.If nothing goes wrong.Big if.

>Implying Gabe wasn't always a villain
I guess creating a service that shackles you to it is OK so long as you can buy cheap games, right?

>>388321171
He never saved PC gaming because PC gaming was never in any danger of dying.

>But stores would only stock the most popular games!
All stores have limited shelf space. If a game doesn't sell well, why should a store keep it on shelves?

>>388336669
That relies on the consumer base to be educated and intelligent.

>half of steam is hat designer
>other half works on DOTA 2
How the might have fallen

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>>388317653
>No proof it's moba
But... there is proof that its a moba card game.
3 "board lines" heroes have to defend lanes, they have items, you use abilities

> it could easily kill off cancer like heartstone.
ha, it wont kill anything, specially if its just trying to rip off its market with uninspired Ideas.

No shit. GABEN FAT FUCK LITTLE PONY COCK SUCKER

>>388315553

Valve would have made HL3 faster if you faggots had bought the Portal 2 items.

They have no reason to support pushing singleplayer garbage. This is what you get.

>>388335916
Where the fuck is l4d3

what about those textures

>>388337382
>None of these games going to release at 2017 though dont except it.
No shit sherlock, ofc the would not release it in 2017 with Artifact coming in 2018. The easiest I thought of would be the end of 2018. Damn I just remembered how Valve made a working TF2 prototype and scrapped it, with classes turrets and shit. I wish we as consumers could do something to at least make Valve carry on with their projects without dropping and picking them up half way through, but with steam dota and cs:go there is nothing from stopping normies from financing Valve for all of eternity. Only danger is Microsoft going full juice mode and fucking up any other gaming platform in Windows, I hope microsoft burns in hell tho, with Valve I am just getting disappointed in a way.

>>388318854
>ethical consumption/ creation existing in capitalism

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>>388338524
But what is the excuse with L4D3?
they sure can sell tons of cosmetics there, specially if they have tons of diferent survivors, then you add cosmetics to the zombies as well.

You can even sell cosmetics for the Witch, each player have a "Witch" cometics, so when there is a witch in the map, you could say "oh it pick up mine" or something

>>388338524
>bought the Portal 2 items.
they came afterwards too, it wasn't in the game at first

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>>388315553
Who will become the hero to take him down?

>>388315553
fuck off already
>>/polygon/

Valve will make HL3 eventually and their digital store is the best one out there

>>388318372
Underage

>>388318357
So shit would be at it's lowest price all the sale because tons of people complained that they missed deals due to timezones/work shedules?
There is good and bad about that decision.

>>388315553
yet weve seen sega become a hero again

Capitalism is bad. Were Valve a democratic workplace and not one that lets corporate bigwigs like Gabe Newell run the show, we'd already have Half-Life 3 by now, and Steam would not be an exploitative distributor that steals from content creators to enrich itself.

>>388321403
>private companies don't have shares

holy fuck you are motherfucking stupid

they have shares they are just not public they are private as is the company you damn moron

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>>388317653
Holy shit, you're the biggest cock sucker on this site.

>>388334540
Gabe climbed aboard a tanker.

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>>388317653
>which is completely fine and logical.
This post is pure ideology.

>>388321003
Honestly, all of these points have their good and bad sides. Cosmetic DLC is better than pay to win DLC, Digital Distribution is a two-sided sword as it opens up the market for indies but the consumer doesn't necessarily own the game, I personally am all for VR.

>>388315623
>monetize mods
Was not he monetizing just his workshop platform for mods?

>>388337775
I know being retarded is hard. A consolefag to boot. But PC was dead in early 2000s. Too much pirating to make games worth it.

Gaben setups up marketplace where pirating is harder and companies slowly start coming back to PC.

>>388315643
I don't think HL3 is dead, I just think gaben waits for VR to be able to allow people to play it better, like with a virtuix omni or something like that.

He's never been the hero you fucking gen-Y idiots. Have you been force-fed the Steam-aid for so long you can no longer conceive of a time before Steam? Have you never stopped to consider HOW Steam was shoved down our throats in the first place?
It amazes me Micro$hit and EA and Ubisoft all still get shit on for pulling the exact same moves Valve has done years before any of them did.

>>388327502
What is there to do?

The only solution would be for another maverick company to spring up and shake the game just like Valve did. I wonder if that's even possible anymore.

>>388340141
*sniff*

and so on

>>388340623
Why not? There are even more platforms for it than Valve did in the early 90s. The difference is escaping Valve the way that Valve escaped Microsoft. I don't think anyone is going to be able to do that.

>>388317653
I swear to god, /v/ has one of the largest portions of user ready to defend ANYTHING a company does for seemingly no reason other than brand loyalty

>>388340903
It's not the platform - it's the innovation that can still be had.

Where do we go from here? Valve has minimum 50% market share on game distribution (for PC), and they are clearly aiming for hardware (consoles, etc). So the question becomes, what can other people do? Where can they go that people like Valve don't already have their claws in?

It's obvious that Valve is setting all their sights to VR. HL3 will be in VR (if it comes out at all), and all future Valve games will be VR. Once it becomes affordable for the average consumer (i.e. ~300 USD for the whole Vibe package), it will become a sort of standard. This is unstoppable unless there are major flaws and problems, which we won't know until about a decade into it (i.e. fundamental limitations and problems, such as vision issues, et al.)

All in all the gaming industry is just extremely cornered right now, and especially due to the diminishing returns of technological innovation. Valve had the advantage of existing in a time where the number of cores your CPU had, and the amount of bites that your GPU had were the limitations and innovations. Now that the polygon cap has been breached, now that the cores just keep growing, innovation is being more and more limited.

Gabe said that Valve is ready for VR to fail. I highly doubt that he means that shit, he is a businessman and spending all this money on VR is proof that he wants it to succeed, and believes with his full heart that it will.

>>388340163
>good sides
>cosmetic DLC
>digital distribution
>VR
>good sides
RETARD DETECTED
Go back to whatever retard infested message board or shit that you rose from, retard.

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THIS WAS ALL PREDETERMINED

ALL BIOTICS BTFO
SECTOR LITERALLY SECURED

>>388334645>>388319726
Hi Todd did you know I torrented fallout 4 and deleted it because it was complete garbage

I remember Gaben used to be nice when Valve was still making games.
What happened?

I never liked TJ anyway.