Has it aged well?

>>388303147

Yes, in fact too well. For a 6 hour long easy as fuck game, fags consistently overrate it and claim it's better than it's sequels. Which it isn't.

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yeah it does I finished it on PCSX2 a couple of months ago

too bad the sequels run like absolute garbage

>>388303248
what's better out of II and 3?

>>388303498
II

>>388303498
3

>>388303147
Yes.

>>388303498
3 without a doubt. The weapons in II are garbage, there are nearly no checkpoints, and most of the missions in the second half of the game are stupid cheap. 3 fixed most of these issues, the only "boring" part is the desert, but even that has enough gameplay tweaks to be more enjoyable than fucking Haven City in II.

im gonna KILL praxis!

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>>388303420
>stretching 4:3

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>>388303670
I'm gonna KILL maxis

>>388303147

no, it's shit western sony generic platformer with double jumps and edgy shit lol fucking gay and uninspired, nothing will ever competre with 3d mario, nothig

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtPm9n61JCM

>>388303498

2 > 3 > 1

None of them are bad games. The entire trilogy is god tier.

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>>388303670
im gonna USE praxis!

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>>388303694
It's not stretched, the game just has le cinematic black bars in cutscenes.

>>388303713
>Trying this hard to falseflag
Please, I love Mario but R&C and J&D blew Sunshine out of the water.

>>388303793
You retard, I played the game at least 20 times. It was set to 4:3 all the time, an you didn't even notice.

The first game? Yes
The other two? lmao

>>388303147
Replayed it just a month ago. Aside from the inverted camera and not being able to tilt it up or down, it's actually still a really fun game.

Solid mechanics, diverse set of levels, not too heavy on the collect-a-thon side. Maybe a bit too easy, but overall still a solid 8 hour romp if you go for 100%.

>>388303891
You mean the setting in game, it looks like shit and is not proper 16:9.

>>388303817

im saying this as someone who got all the golden magic balls twice. oit's a mediocre game. it's just somewhat nostalgic because i beat it as a preteen. the only redeeming quality is the seamless transition between areas

>>388304001
Aight, I guess you're entitled to your opinion, even if it's shit.

>>388303147
The sequels largely go against all the interesting ideas established in the first game. The open world with constant platform challenges was replaced with a barren, large city environment with nothing to do.

>>388303420
>too bad the sequels run like absolute garbage
quite fitting.
the sequels are in fact absolute garbage
>muh need to jump on the GTA train now
>muh let's copy the basics, add shooting and pseudo-adult themes

>>388303986
Most games with 16:9 options added EXTRA screen estate for the 4:3 mode. The reason: so that playing in both modes shows you enough for the game to be beatable without problems.

As already mentioned, played it many times in widescreen mode, never had a problem.

Since when do people hate Jak 3? I understand hating 2 because it tried to draw in the GTA crowd, and did that extremely poorly, but 3 got back on track pretty damn well.

>>388303793
Didn't you notice the bug with Jak's eye going weird?
Maybe you should play it on an actual PS2.

>388304120
>

>>388303147
Yup. It's a shame that the sequels completely changed the formula instead on expanding on the first one and making it better.
That series could have been a worthy successor to Spyro as king of sony platformers.

>>388304049
This. People who enjoyed the sequels more are the reason we have so many boring open world games now.

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>>388304254

>>388304040

i know the game is shit :) I am gladl u agree LOL

>>388304223
Do you mean "since when people hate certain changes in sequels" or "since when do people here call games shit to anger its fans and get replies"?

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>>388304316
>LOL
Who even uses that anymore?

>>388304223
Jak 3 is of course better than 2 (not a difficult thing to do), but still a piece of crap. And I'm saying that as someone, who bought all of those day 1 and I also bought the HD collection day 1.

The only good thing about Jak 3 is the twist ending, which I found quite a bit amusing.

>>388304120
My biggest gripe with 2 and 3 is the added gunplay without any form of manual aiming or strafing. Also the over reliance on races and timed missions.

Every time the games throw in some platforming segments, I enjoy the fuck out of them them, but everything else feels just like tagged on filler.

>>388304283

I hate open world and rail against them in every thread they are mentioned. I haven't bought of played an open world game in half a decade now.

Jak 2 is my favorite in the series. Jak 2 is one of the only games in existence that did open world right.

It's not even a true open world, it's just a large hub with some transports. The entirely of haven city is like the size of a single island from GTA3.

>>388304413

people who like luagh lOL lough out loud don't u ever laugh buddy

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Did this game age well?

>>388304484
I'd say so. It'd be better with a proper strafe mode, but it's good as it is. And it just got better with each passing game, at least on the PS2.

>>388304484

Yes.

R&C1 is still the second best game in the series, after R&C2.

>inb4 some udnerage little turd comes in thinking R&C1 is a third person shooter like it's sequels and not a pure platformer
>inb4 someone didn't main the wrench and thought the gimmick situational weapons were meant to be your main arsenal like they were in the sequels

I liked it when the wrench was more than just a box breaker.

>>388303615
>>388303657
i'm guessing 3 will make no sense if i haven't played II?

>>388304640
Yeah, the setting changes drastically from 1 to II, so you'll be completely lost.

>>388304640

2 and 3 are heavily story related, you absolutely need to play 2 before 3 or it wont make sense. 1 only has a light story.

>>388304640
Some of it gets explained but you should play 2 at least once or read a plot summary

>>388304423
They should have simply never added guns.
What was the fricking point? (I know, Sony wanted to cash in on the GTA craze)
If I wanted to shoot things, I would have bought Ratchet & Clank (which I also did). If I wanted an actual GTA experience, I would have bought GTA (which I also did).

Jak 2+3 are jack of all trades, master of none.
Jak&Daxter was an old school style collectathon with tons of platforming. And it did that properly in a large open world, which was tons of fun. I played that one over and over. It also was light hearted, which was also great.

I mean they could have gone full mental and added blood and gore on top. But nope.

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>>388303793
Stretching a 4:3 image to 16:9

Disgusting

>>388303767
My nigga

I can't even remember if Jak 2+3 were actually 60 fps.

What I however do remember is that Jak&Daxter was butter smooth 60 fps without tearing or drops (at least as far as I can remember).

I remember putting Jak 2 in and even noticing tearing right at the start of the game during the fricking intro (PAL here, just in case).

>>388305323
They were 60fps.

>>388303147
Absolutely. Jak feels great to control, he has great animations as well as Daxter, the music is fantastic and the levels are all fun and varied. Truly a great platformer.

>>388305323
Both 2 and 3 had tearing up the ass, even in progressive mode. They both ran at mostly 60, though.

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Oh and a game, that I was never able to play was Jak X.

Naughty Dog fucked up the game by having broken saved game code. It saved endlessly on various PS2 models, which made it impossible to play and it also broke memory cards because of that.

And they never fixed it. I even bought the Jak X Platinum release and it was also broken. At least I got a special Jak & Daxter DVD with it, which had all the cutscenes and was basically a 2 or 3 or I don't know movie of the whole trilogy.

That one should have been part of the HD collection.

>>388305520
Even for the NTSC release?

>>388305323
>>388305363
60/30 hybrid, with occasional dip below the smaller number. The progressive scan more of their engine was a bit glitchy. I like it though, it gives the games unique AESTHETIC.

>>388305839
The future PS4 remaster should fix these issues.

>>388305839
Broken saved game code? Can you elaborate? I don't remember any problems with the save system.

>>388305839
There are many "Platinum" copies on sale, with a regular black label disk inside the case. Fools buy them.

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>>388305915
>remaster
I wish I could hit everyone who uses that word over the internet.

>>388303767
You have taste anon

>>388306031
Shut your bitch face.

>>388305927
Sony pushed the release date a bit too soon, and the game had serious save bugs on most PS2 models (not fat if I am briefed properly). Reprints fix that, but it's impossible(?) to tell if you have a reprint or not. Platinum(with a SILVER disk in case) and Greatest Hits releases both have the patch.

>>388305839
They have tearing in the PAL 60Hz modes, so I guess it's the same with the NTSC releases.

>>388305927
The game could get stuck autosaving and resetting the game would corrupt your memory card.

Fun times.

>>388305927
The game auto-saved. And that ran endlessly. It never stopped. So at some point you had to power down the console, which then corrupted the memory card. For me it destroyed 2 or 3 memory cards. I then gave up on it.

Sure, I guess I could have played it non stop without ever powering down the console and beating it that way.

Not sure if there was an option to disable auto-save, but even saving manually had the same issue.

As I said it happened on just some PS2 models only. No idea if it was PAL exclusive.
I originally had an original fat PS2 PAL model. That one broke because of GTA games and was replaced by Sony for a new slim one. I still own that one. And at least that one had that issue.

My model is a PAL SCPH-7500.

That one on the other hand is able to play the MGS Special Missions disc. My original PS2 wasn't able to play that. The console kept on asking for the original MGS disc. Was a backward compatibility bug.

>>388305984
Mine had a new disc. Definitely. But the software wasn't fixed.
I personally never buy platinum releases. I had hopes that they fixed it, but nope. Sony support also didn't give a shit. They actually wanted to replace my console once more with the same model. Which made no sense, because every single other game worked fine. And it is actually a software bug. There is info about that on the web.

>>388306139
>Reprints fix that
source?
I bought my platinum copy months after it going platinum. And it was a silver platinum disc, not an original one (I would have noticed) and it definitely was not fixed for me.

If there actually is a version out there, I would buy it once more. But I don't want to waste my money once more.

>>388306289
All Platinum releases are silver disks. If yours isn't silver, you were swindled.

>>388306452
That's interesting. A friend of mine who lives in Europestan has a "Platinum" copy with a black disk, and no bug. It must be a reprint.

If you want to be 100% sure, get the US Greatest Hits release. Make sure your PS2 plays region 1 (through means and ways), and you will be good to go.

>>388306452
I'm answering myself.

It seems probably someone from Sony removed the auto save bug from wikipedia. It's gone now, but you can still see it in an older revision:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jak_X:_Combat_Racing&oldid=605751031#Autosave_Memory_Card_controversy

>The "Platinum" release of Jak X still has autosave errors.
>Neither SCEA nor Naughty Dog decided to take any responsibility for broken memory cards. SCEE's solution was to send a new memory card to victims of the glitch.

Fuck Sony

>confirming that they have fixed the bug and are offering exchanges to those users who were affected.
...
> the player can send in their copy of the game and memory card for a free copy of Jak X: Combat Racing, a new memory card, and a copy for free of a selection of SOCOM: Navy SEALs games.
burgers only

>>388306624
>Make sure your PS2 plays region 1
Thanks, but I don't have a modded PS2.
And won't mod it just for this game.

It's really insane that they fixed it for NTSC, even sent out replacements, but didn't give a shit about PAL.

>>388306706
As an European, you should know perfectly well that until this gen, we got shafted way more often than we should have when it comes to games and bugfixes.

>>388306815
Can't remember that many issues.
PS2 games only got that buggy at the end of the PS2 generation. PS3 games in general are quite buggy.

We rather got shafted by not getting all sorts of games (or getting them way later, but well that was NTSC<->PAL), getting bad conversions (not 60 Hz) and also not getting progressive support etc.

Nintendo for example replaced discs for PAL too. See for example Super Paper Mario on Wii.

What comes to mind is for example burgers getting the final Duck Tales HD patch, which made it possible to skip cutscenes.

That one was never released here. And the game loves to freeze PS3s right after cutscenes. And someone thought it would be a brilliant idea to add a trophy which requires you to play through the whole game without saving. Which means it's basically impossible to do because of broken software.

But this right here is a special case. It's fully game breaking. And makes the game literally unplayable. It doesn't depend on some special situation like the player not picking something up. It's simply fully broken (on some PS2 models).

>>388304596
This guy gets it.

>>388306706
Again, at least 1 PAL reprint with the bug fix exists, so I don't know. It's a fucking mystery by this point.

>muh Jak X save bug
blame Sony for making a broken PS2, not ND for making a game that functions perfectly on PS2s that haven't been gutted to save a few bucks

>>388308340
In Sony's defense, no other game to my knowledge has such a bug that is model-specific.

Still, Sony's hubris will eventually kill the company. And that's a shame, since I like them.

Phat 50001 PS2 owner reporting in.

>>388308453
There are a handful of other PS2 games which have bugs on those Slim models, and a fuckton of PS1 games.

Sony removed the PS1 CPU (which in PS2 games performs some I/O and audio operations) in those PS2 models and replaced it with a cheaper emulator.

Jak 2 and 3 on ps4 when?

I 100%ed 1 in 6 hours and want more

>>388308672
>Jak 2 and 3 on ps4 when?
Whevener Sony decides to release them. Supposedly it's this year, but it's already the end of August.

>>388308565
And now I have 2 sources to confirm that the sound bug in BG&E is caused by the console. God bless my phat.

>>388308756
I had to look that up, that's actually really funny.

Unless you have a 75000.

>>388309456
Yeah, imagine a sound effect copying itself into the RAM more than once, and you are left with duplicates playing on loop until you reset.

Any platformer that has a double jump is garbage. It's a sign that the developers have no confidence in level design.

>>388308069
Maybe they simply fixed only part of the bug.
Where is your source on that btw?

>>388308340
>muh blame Sony for making a broken PS2
the PS2 isnt broken. Every other game works. The Naughty Dog code is simply shit.
>functions perfectly on PS2s
Fake News. It actually works on some slim PS2 models and not on others. It's simply shit code.

Fat PS2s (at least PAL) do not run MGS Special Missions, because of another bug.

>>388308565
[citation needed]

>>388304223
Jak 3 was just boring. The desert was boring, the characters were okay, fights were mostly boring.

Jak 2 was edgy, but it was fun edgy.

>>388311832
My friend in Europe. He played his copy and never ran into that bug.

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>>388311890
Common knowledge m8.

>>388308565
>replaced it with a cheaper emulator.
which obviously makes MGS Special Missions work. So I guess their PS1 CPU is also buggy.

In any case, it's Naughty Dogs bug (maybe SDK, but then no other game has that issue) and with proper testing it would have been trivial to fix.

PS3s for example have SDK issues as well, because some brilliant Sony moron thought it would be a great idea to switch X and O around for western consoles.

Which resulted in tons of literally broken PS3 games when played on an Asian console.

For example one James Bond game on PS3 is totally broken and can not be beaten on an Asian console despite Sony claiming that PS3s are region free.

And the worst thing is: this shit is a firmware option. With a hacked PS3, you can switch it around, so that those games work. But there is no system setting for it, which means people in that case are fucked.

And it also wasn't just one dev. Even Rockstar released multiple broken games (patched them 6 months or so later). Possibly even used as a region protection, I mean they can't be that dumb to repeat the same mistakes over and over again.

>>388312048
Do I have to repeat this over and over?
It happens for some PS2 models only.
I was unlucky and my fat Ps2 broke down. Sony sent me this shit as a replacement.

>>388312106
yeah great.
The only info that I could find was a claim, that a Japanese PS2 revision had issues.
It claims that Hitman Contracts "wouldn't play".
That's clearly not a problem on my PS2.

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>Jak 2 and 3
>take out yellow gun
>jump in the air
>shoot like a madman
and thats basically the gunplay

>>388303147
yup, still a great game

>>388312635
I owned 90001 slim before, and it had problems my 50001 fat does not.

>>388312667
>jump in the air
>shoot like a madman
>run out of am-......

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Anyone seen Bonesaw's latest uploads?

Pic unrelated.

most ps2 games hold up incredibly well

Better than its sequels

>>388313261
There is this small but vocal camp that still thinks Jak 1 is superior. I want to know where that camp is, so I could pay them a friendly visit.

>>388314210
It is superior, because it wasn't subverted into a GTA3 clone. You can call it easy. You can call it a child's game. But it at least is a game before it's a poorly designed pile of trash trying to make a quick buck.

>>388311890
The old CPU is the IOP. The replacement is known as DECKARD. Google around and you'll find PCSX2 devs talking about it.

>>388314210
>small
lol

>people still think Jak2 was a hard game

Why

>>388314939
It's not hard, it's cheap and poorly designed.

>>388314713
Member when every FPS was called a "Doom Clone"? Member when Precursor Legacy was called a Super Mario 64 clone"

It's alright.

I feel the progression is a bit scattershot but it can be fun.

>>388314939
Film yourself playing it to completion. We will count the deaths.

>>388315361
There's a difference between being considered one and actually being one.

>carjacking
>guns
>escort missions across some shitty city
>edgy for the sake of it
Naughty Dog wanted to emulate the success of GTA3, so they made a game in its likeness.

>>388311832
>Every other game works.
http://web.archive.org/web/20150406220801/http://us.playstation.com/news/consumeralerts/softwaretitles_75001/
And these are only the titles that were officially listed, anon here >>388308756 confirms that BG&E fucks up on the 75000, if they overlooked this game then there are surely more games with gamebreaking bugs.

The 75000 is a piece of shit.

>>388315605
Mine was 90001.

>>388315619
The PSP game sucks ass. As a matter of fact, the only PS2 spinoff on PSP you should play in general is Daxter.

>>388315689
They used DECKARD as well.

>>388315605
>http://web.archive.org/web/20150406220801/http://us.playstation.com/news/consumeralerts/softwaretitles_75001/
>Syphon Filter 2
>Ty 3
>Bubsy 3D
The fuckers!

>>388303248
I love how shitflinging is mandatory in every thread because people just cannot comprehend that a trilogy can have all three of its games be good.

Jesus fuck this new age contrarianism meme shit is out of control.

>>388315760
I knowwwwwwwww

>>388315851
>new age
Sequels have been ranked by nerds since the beginning of time.

>>388315851
eat shit faggot

I grew up on these games and they were awful then and awful now

>>388315851
What kind of criticism can a Jakfag even throw at J&D?
Besides being too easy and short I can't really think of anything.

The Jak and Daxter series is timeless.

>>388316207
Jak and Daxter is timeless.
The sequels are a product of their time.

>>388312667
Half of your shots will miss and you'll be DSPing your way through the game. No wonder why you didn't enjoy it.

>>388303147
I played it for the first time like 2 years ago and it was the most fun I'd had some the N64 3D platformer glory days.

>person implicates that they might like someone
>others rise to action to state opposite to the opinions

every thread on /v/

can you share some cool gameplay webms?

>>388316207
Play Jak II again in 2017 and see for yourself if it is timeless. No, it's fucking not.

>>388315969
Too repetitive. Too boring. Too empty. Protagonist doesn't know how to speak. Supposed comic relief is not funny half the time. NPCs exist only to give you collectables and never talk to you again.

As a pcbro it's fucking hilarious watching you consolecucks squirm and scream over who's got the tastiest part of the rotting corpse that is console shovelware that didn't make the cut.

>>388317143
Well it's good until the fucking precursor key segments or whatever.

>>388317305
>It's good until the puzzles get too hard

yeah I also hate when things are too video gamey that's why I stick to visual novels

>>388317359
>Jak II's puzzles are hard
What are you even saying?

>>388317412
>get called out for being shit
>n-no!!!

you're not fooling me faggot go play your aim assist corridor fps rehashes and stay the fuck away from actual games that your brainlet ass cannot handle

>>388317524
I'm not even the same guy. II doesn't even have proper puzzles to speak of.

>>388317359
Oh I'm sorry, are you gonna tell me why the Water Slums were fantastic?

>>388317226
>As a fanboy
Stopped reading right there. Opinion invalidated.

>>388317524
Are you a 1337 gaymer?

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>>388317839

>>388318140
No he doesn't.

>>388304484
Sadly not. I mean, it's decent, but R&C 2 is much more comfortable to play, you see that this was kinda a new concept for a platformer so the guns wasn't really that powerful and accurate, they did, aside from the chemistry of Ratchet and Clank, everything better in 2.

>>388304861
If you think about it, the only reason why Jak II isn't M rated is because the civilians dies unviolent and disappear right after, but Jak in Jak II is basically a mass murdering maniac since many missions take part in the hub world were either Jak kills dozens of civilians "accidentally" or they get killed by gun towers or guards and it's impossible to avoid it.

>>388303147

I'm confused

Didn't this come out last gen on PS3 with 2 and 3?

>>388304484
It's a tad "sluggish" in the movement department but all the creative ideas, level design and structure of progression make up for it, needed a bit more checkpoints in areas and could have also benefitted from a strafe system but the game wasn't really designed with it in mind so it's not a big deal anyways but yeah solid first entry

>>388318243
>>388303762

>>388318770
Yes. PS2 versions are less buggy though, so......... wait for the PS4 releases, those are supposed to be mostly untouched.

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>>388320307

>>388304484
It actually did if you can get over the movement, it also has the best swingshot

>>388320840
>it also has the best swingshot
If you mean design-wise, sure, I guess. If you mean mechanics-wise though, fuck no.

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The Jak and Daxter series has some premium tier sluts, that's for sure.

>Almost no R34 and the only porn comic is by Akabur

Fuck this.

>>388304861
>muh GTA
Jak 2 isn't a GTA clone. Stop spewing this absolute bullshit.

>>388303147
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35xZDaGI8cY
Only the first game.

>>388321203
You're right, GTA had better aiming.

>>388320584
Video is context.

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>>388321125
I like how virgins call all women "sluts".

>almost no R34

>>388321991
>fantasy misogyny

>>388322265
Just find it funny how one can see all fantasy women as sluts. Cause all fantasy people is have sex 24/7 365 days/year.

>>388304484
No, it's easily the worst R/C based on mechanics alone.

The best is R/C3.

>>388323753
>based on mechanics alone.
Good thing we're considering level design too, because 2 and 3 both have major issues in that regard.

>>388303498
definitely 2. 3 is too ez

>>388303147
>aged

>>388303498
If II had the fixes of Jak 3 (Better Checkpoints, Health System, More Guns, etc...) it would be the better game by a landslide.

But due to the fact that it doesn't, I'm pretty split on which of the two is better.

I liked jak 2, it was charming and fun. didnt care for 3 much though.

>>388325928
I liked jak 1, it was charming and fun. didnt care for 2 and 3 much though.

>>388326584
makes more sense this way desu

>very start of jak 3
>the gladiators have very graphic death animations when they fall into the lava
>you never see this ever again

>>388326678
that's why i made the post fämäläm

>>388326736
>>very start of mg2
>>the ice cubes have very graphic melting animations when they fall into the bucket
>>you never see this ever again

>see this thread after I started replaying the serie a week ago

Loved the series then, still do it now. I think I only had problems with Jak 2 on some missions and its checkpoint system was god awful which made me want to throw away my controller. Jak 3 is so easy in comparison its not even funny

>>388303147
Good enough. All three of them are good despite the contrarians.

>>388304049
J&D was good but it really didn't have many interesting ideas. In retrospect it was a pretty generic platformer with a world that, while colorful and varied, didn't have much else to it. 2 and 3 had much more fleshed out worlds.

>>388315961

>My opinion is right and if you disagree you're a poop eater!

Sony sure is being slow releasing some PS2 games on PS4.

In fact, im VERY surprised that with GoW 3 being remastered on PS4 they didn't release GoW 1 and 2 on PS4 yet

I also don't understand why not release Gran Turismo 3 or 4 while they make a new one

Or just ask Bandai Namco to allow them to release Dragon Ball Tenkaichi 3

>>388327798
This. Jak TPL was generously short because there isnt much you can do to stretch that kind of gameplay out.

>>388327965
I'd rather have a game that's short and polished than padded as fuck.

>>388315961
Don't talk to yourself.

>>388327929
The console should have had BC, but thanks to cucks like you that concept is dead to sony.

jak 2 and 3 had much better sound design than 1, those character grunts and shouts for every action were going to get annoying as all fuck

>>388328036
Backwards compatibility for the PS3 in the PS4 was impractical because muh Cell processor.

>>388328254
Just like the cell would be impossible to emulate right?

Stop bullshitting yourself you cucklord.

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>>388328036
>anons have the power to influence Sony

>>388327798
>didn't have many interesting ideas
doesnt this game have a world record for being the first game with a seamless open world or something like that?

>>388328254
but it doesn't have BWC for PS1 (which is trivial at this point) or PS2 (which I'm sure Sony could do an inhouse emulator for so you could play your old discs, it's doable with PS4 power) but they are money grubbing jews

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>release the zeppelin in j&d
>can still see it anchored in later levels when you look back at the world

OH HERE COMES A BIG ONE

>>388328465
But what does that say about the world itself?

>>388328398
Do you know what specs are necessary for RPCS3? There isn't a chance in hell that the PS4 could do it.

>>388328483
That's slimy, yeah.
>Have PS2 games purchased on PSN for PS3
>Can play PS2 games on PS4
>But not the ones I already own

Is the PS4 version of Jak 1 just emulated or an actual port like the PS3 version?

>>388303498
2 had a better, atmospheric story and feel. 3 is better in terms of gameplay. But god damn they fucked the story.

>>388304223
3 destroyed the lore

>>388328654
Sony does know the architecture in and out themselves, I don't think it would be impossible on the PS4. But they wont do it the same reason you can't play your old PS2 games on the system. They'd rather sell you the games again (as ports)

>>388328781
lol

>>388304484
first one nah but 2 and 3 hold up great

Jak 3 is only like an hour longer than TPL and is significantly easier than Jak 2, not to mention all those damn dune buggy missions. The desert is also boring outside of collectables and the story isn't that great. Also it fucking ruined Keira.

Jak 3 is the worst game. Jak 2 had the better story and better bosses and did a better job with the characters.

>>388328781
>m-muh ottsels why arent the precursors hyper generic holy ghost elves

because daxter turned into a furfag for no reason right

>>388303248
It is better than Jak 2, but that's only because Jak 2 was a shitshow.

Boring af

>>388328512
I am not a 1337 gaymer, but I am pretty good at that game.

>>388328725
3's story was a bit rushed and had too much stuff, but it was mostly FINE. Naughty Dog managed to hold all those plot points together with ducktape.

>>388328843
Knowing the architecture is certainly a major help, but there's only so much you can do. Similarity between the architectures is major factor too.
PSP could emulate the PS1 extraordinarily well because they both used a MIPS CPU. The PS3 was able to punch above its weight when emulating PS2 games because the SPUs of the Cell were similar to the VUs of the PS2.
The Cell isn't built like any other processor out there. A top of the line x86 CPU struggles to emulate it, so the cheap shitty laptop APU in the PS4 has no chance.

>>388329498
I still wish there was a perfect PS2 emulator built for PS3. Then it would have sold way better in the beginning. And no need to bump up the price to 600; just use software.

>those double jumps

Why the fuck would they program them this way? It's a small thing, but it's part of what makes the movement feel fucked up.

>>388330146
You don't know how difficult it is to make an emulator. Especially for a fucked up console like the PS2.

>>388316340
>Half of your shots will miss
With the fucking yellow gun? Missing? Now thats hilarious
Its even easier in 3 thanks to the level 2 version of it

>>388330398
Technology is technology. And the key to mastering technology is knowing how it works and how it can be manipulated. Sony simply did not want to spend the time.

>>388330398
And on a fucked up console like the PS3

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>>388330579
(besides, they even had all the specs since they made the thing)

>>388330672
The PS3 was fucked up in a similar way to the PS2. That helped.

>>388330579
Sony did spend the time with the emulator used for PS2 games downloaded from PSN.
It sucks.

>>388330579
>Sony simply did not want to spend the time
The Xbox 360 had come out and started the next console gen. More and more details about Nintendo's "Revolution" console were coming out. Sony needed something new out and the PS2 was still out in the market and doing very well. A PS2 emulator just wasn't a priority in fucking 2005, you're just mad you don't have it now.

>>388329051
>Also it fucking ruined Keira.
Yeah it was weird how Jak was suddenly fucking Ashelin. I mean I get it, Ashelin is hotter and better, but Jak was already pretty clearly established with Keira.

>>388331362
Keira and Jak were childhood friends, this doesn't always 100% of the time have to mean they are destined to fuck the shit out of one another.

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>>388329051
>jak 2 had the better bosses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dopdqF58gA
>*RANDOM CHAINSAW REV NOISE*
>SO WE HAVE A RAT IN THE WALLS, DO WE?
>A RAT AND HIS BOY, IT SEEMS! BACK FOR MORE DARK ECO EXPERIMENTS?
>WELL ALLOW ME TO PUT YOU BOTH OUT OF YOUR MISERY!

>YOU'RE POWERLESS
>YOU'RE POWERLESS
>THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO!
>YOU CANNOT HURT ME!
>YOU'RE POWERLESS
>HAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA
>YOU CANNOT HURT ME!

>>388331489
Oh I know, and believe me I hate the childhood friend romance as much as anyone could. But Keira went from being a constant presence in the first two games and Jak's romantic interest to being almost non-existent, while Jak was suddenly all about Ashelin despite being with Keira at the end of 2. And Ashelin was also with Torn at the end of 2 as well.

>>388330957
Well, I have a fat PS2. But I wouldn't have to get it if PS3 was just a bit more perfect.

>>388331914
Gr8/10 boss.

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>>388331914

>>388331972
Adults get horny and make stupid mistakes.

And ND thought un-shipping their characters would shake things up a bit.

>>388331914
second fight sucked cock with the bomb kick gimmick and is hardly memorable but this one was done well

>>388330317
Haven't played the series since I was a lad, can you elaborate?

jak 2's boss music was better

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>>388321125

I bet half of you only waifufagged bug-eyed keira because she showed more skin and had a visible thong. Fucking degenerates. For what Jak developed into, Ashelin was a much more fitting match for him.

tfw flutflut become extinct in later games

>>388303147
None of them have aged great. The vehicles in all of them are fucking garbage but the platforming itself is...fine? There's nothing great about it but it works.

Jak 2 however has aged like dogshit. It's fucking terrible.

>>388332336
Doesn't matter, they're just unshipping two couples to make another couple. It'd have been different if, say, a love triangle was established in 2 and then it was addressed and resolved in 3. But it wasn't, both relationships were just dropped with no mention and Jak was fucking Ashelin.

Again, I prefer Ashelin to Keira, but it was poorly handled.

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>that mission in jak 2 where you escort the three stooges through the fucking sewers
>any pick up npc drop off npc mission

Playing through these PS2 trilogy games has only made me realize that the PS2 had fuckall for platformers so the only experience with them a lot of kids had was these.

What terrible childhoods.

>>388333157
I agree. They're nothing compared to super mario sunshine.

>>388332538
The Precursor Robot boss in 3 is the best though.

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>>388328503
>That glitch that literally stopped you from completing that mission

>>388333294
There is an irish man who played both and would disagree.

>>388328512
That dude has the same voice actor as Batman in the animated series.

>>388332771
They evolved into the leaper lizards seen in 3.

>>388304484

Yes, other than it not having the ability to strafe it's awesome.

Has Owen Wilson aged well?

>>388333294
Sunshine is pretty decent, but I'm more talking about stuff like DK64, Banjo, Mario 64, DK Jungle Beat, DKCR, and other stuff like that.

hell even smash bros was a better platformer in some scenarios

>>388332797
What are some 3D platformers you think have aged great?

>>388323081
They aren't real anon.

>>388333696
That have? Mario 64 is probably the kind of aging well. Movement still feels absolutely great and it's fluidity has never really been matched. DK64's platforming is still great even if the game isn't. Banjo kazooie still plays great.

I'm trying to think of some stuff on the PS or Xbox that aged well...most of my favorite PS2 games aren't platformers like Katamari, MGS3, and Silent Hill.

>>388333967
PS1 Spyro games have aged well

>>388333967
SMS is more fluid than SM64, main problem with SMS is the level design.

>>388333054
I liked those guys. They were funny.

>>388334171
Too bad only Jinx survives when the metal heads break into the city and commence the rapefest though

>>388333967
The thing about Banjo Kazooie is that there's only 3 levels that visually interest me the rest or just there

>>388334086
SMS is pretty good, but doesn't utilize that movement like 64 did.

>>388334367
As long as the platforming is solid, does it matter?

>>388334063
never played those.

>>388334449
I prefer the movement of SMS, but like I said the level design doesn't give you much opportunity to make the most of it
>tfw spraying water and bellysliding to build up sanic speed

Anyone else love it when aesthetic level geometry allows you to get to some places earlier than normal or skip a bunch of shit thanks to clever platforming and a lack of invisible walls/collision detection repelling you?

>>388335324
Metroid Prime is my favourite game for this.

>>388335485
okay no nevermind fuck it

i don't want to hear your worthless opinions if it's going to involve you bringing up that prime shit

>>388336306
autism

>>388336306
what the fuck

>>388336306
2dfags everyone

>>388304484
2 > 3 > Deadlocked > 1 but they're all 8/10 or better. All of them play well today.

>>388303147
It aged better than it's sequels. Although I still prefer Jak 2 in terms of story and variety.

you can call me a furfag all you want but I'd bang the fuck out of those slinger metalheads that're lanky as fuck and take like 12 hits to kill

>jak 3 shows you all these awesome dune buggies but you really only ever use 2 of them

>Volcanic crater
>Buy four powercells from miners
>buy 2 from statue
>collect scout flies
>shoot a hidden box


nice

>>388304316
wrong as you are invalid

>sidequest shit is limited to "find the orb!" "go here really fast!" "go through the rings!"
>there is a fuckload of them

Why bother?

>>388337594
>Gives you a better buggy the very second vehicle mission and another one right after that.

What was the point of making such a big deal about you getting to keep Tough Puppy if you win the first race.

>>388304120
It integrates well with the old mechanics and you know it

>>388338015
No idea, the implication I guess that they do the same with the others or w/e. Tough puppy is a load of fucking useless cock.

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Just got this, what should I expect ?

>>388338652
I hope you don't have an SCPH-75000+.

>>388323753
>Quest for Booty not worst

>>388338893
>hating the only Ratchet games with an emphasis on platforming
hmmm

>>388338652
they made the worst part of jak 3 into an entire game so enjoy

>tfw have an SCPH-90001
>tfw can't play jak x

>>388338652
I enjoyed it until it wrecked my memory card.

Same thing happened with Soul Calibur 3.

>>388303248
>Which it isn't.
As someone who played the entire trilogy for the first time this year, you're full of shit and Jak II was garbage.

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Dune buggies in Jak 3 were fucking cool. I liked just driving around.

>>388340104
I'm not gonna lie I liked getting boost and shooting up into the air for some hang time

>>388314939
It's harder than the others. The difficulty slowly ramps and then plateaus at a generally high level with spikes here and there

Jak 1 and 3 aged ok. 2 plays like a really bad gta clone, Simpsons Hit and Run was better.

I can't believe this thread is still up.
M-muh childhood.

>>388321432
GTA actually HAD aiming.

fuck that part in jak 3 where you ride the missle as daxter

>>388342830
Oh lord I remember that, didn't remember it being too bad but it did take me multiple tried

>>388331489
>>388331362
>>388331972

Keira did get with Jak at the end of 3. They actually kissed in the last cutscene.

>>388304484
Does it run on an emulator?

I enjoyed the hover board missions in 2/3, especially in the forested area. The part in 2 where you platform along the giant cables holding the fortress in the center up was pretty nice, and the fortress itself was cool.

>>388343421
If you have a shit PC don't bother and get a PS2 or the PS3 collection

>>388344016
I have a good PC but the emulation is probably broken on more levels than just a bitch to run.

>>388344131
Nah it's good now download a developer build and go play

>>388303792
Kek

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>>388344131
thanks anon

AND TO THINK YOU TRAVELED ALL THIS WAY FOR MY HELP

FOOLS

ENJOY YOUR FRONTROW SEATS TO THE RECREATION OF THE WORLD!

>>388339059
The emphasis on platforming was barely more than the other games with longer segments, the weapon selection was old and handicapped, the writing and humor is worse and the world itself is a jumble of uncharacteristically bad level and combat design. I got it free with Into the Nexus, and I'm sorry I did

>>388344451
meant for
>>388344270

>>388344451
Make sure to set the mipmapping it fixes most of of not all the graphic issues from earlier builds

>>388344620
if*

I thought it was an interesting touch that for a couple seconds, as Baron Praxis charged the metal head leader at that construction site, you could see his sword had some kind of green enchantment on it, referencing how green eco counters dark eco(or at least it did when you killed the dark plants with it in jak 1).

>>388333586
He was killed at the end of Precursor Legacy, remember?

>>388338652
The best racing game with weapons that is not a karting game.

>>388339810
Pray to whatever gods to transform your copy into a Greatest Hits one.

Or buy a 50000/39000 PS2 in good condition.

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>>388345245
Along with best grill

Jak 1 had the best final boss, hands down. Jak 2's was mediocre and jak 3's was just too anti-climatic.

>>388345468
She was hotter than Keira. Helps that her eyes don't take up 80% of her face.

>>388345468
definitely best pair

>>388345953
>Helps that her eyes don't take up 80% of her face

a fucking thousand times this, it's a crying shame one of the only girls in the series with a normal structured face had to not only be evil but also die

No. Definitely not.

>yellow sage doesn't say anything at the end of jak 1
>for half of it he's randomly off in the background not even animated as the red sage talks to keira

People bring up GTA3 all the time, yet forget how much of an influence FF7 was on the story and AESTHETICS.

>>388312667
>not forward punching into yellow gun for a sick burst shot
Yeah ok

>>388346576
The whole ending seemed a bit rushed. Especially the one for 100% completion.

What a joke.

>>388345245
Wasn't that a plot point. It was said they were probably destroyed

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>>388345468
>3D mode shows some her butt cleavage
Bless you Jak 3

>>388347937
Even if they werent they got fucking stuck in that dark eco silo and died a slow and horrific death together. Likely fucked at least once before that though.

>>388347937
ND made fun of cliffhangers. That's all. Why people still look too deep into this is beyond me.

Was Jak Mar or they only share the name?

>>388348341
Originally, yes. Then ND decided that makes little sense and backpedaled. Jak II's ending was rewritten, and the revelation in 3 was changed.

In "canon" way, right now, no, Jak was named after his ancestor like royalty often does to their children.

>>388303248
Jak 1 is objectively better than 2 and 3

>>388348129
Pretty great to have them add characters from previous games to it.

>boot up ps2 and try to play some jak 3 since it's the one I've played the least, and my favorite incidentally
>"The disc could not be read."
>There is no data.

exactly what I fucking feared

>>388350428
Find a semi-underground tech wizard near your area, and get a new laser.

>>388350539
Or just hack it.