Why do you bully this game so much, /v/?

>>388296993
Success breeds jealousy.

The DLC boss fights carry the entirety of the original game.

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It's just boring. It doesn't have any real low points like 1 and 2, it's consistently decent from start to finish but it just isn't anything exciting. I felt empty after I finished it, and not a single moment left a lasting impression on me.

Its objectively the best one besides Bloodborne.

>>388297752
This, for the most part
The Champ and Dragonslayer were my favorites of the base game, the rest were meh

>>388296993

Why do you suck this game's dick so much?

>>388297980

This. It was all more of the same. I've loved the series since Demon's but it has left me completely burnt out on Souls. Would be fine not touching the series again for the rest of my life.

>>388297980
The end of fire ending is the best way to end the series I teared up a little. It was art

>>388296993
I don't. I liked it.

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>>388296993
Well, it was hypothetically better than Dark Souls II, but it was also hypothetically worse than Dark Souls, however, it was clearly not as good as BloodBorne. This puts the game in an odd spot already, but what Dark Souls III lacks that the others do not, no matter the quality, is that there is no sense of wonder or relevance. (I.e. it's boring as all hell).

It's not an awful game, it's a good one, and every game has its own issues, but for the series, it wasn't necessary nor revolutionary.

It opened up, no doors. But it was still a relatively pleasing experience.

At least the character quest lines were cool.

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>>388297980
its shittier than 2 stop with this meme already.
>>388296993
Stop spamming this shit, if you want attention then go to Omegle so strangers can look at your fat ugly ass.

>>388300160
epic arguments my dude

>>388299221
It was not. Nothing in Dark Souls 3 is art because garbage can't be art.

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>>388296993
The only people who didn't have fun with this game are those who didn't gang rape invaders or played fair because m-muh honor.

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>Linear world
>Stamina management is non existent
>Teleportation unlocked from the start
>No weapon degradation
>Terrible PvP
>Nameless King only worthwhile boss

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>>388296993
I loved it, wasn't on the same level as Dark Souls 1 but better than DS2 and Bloodborne by a long shot. I'm looking forward to replaying 3 someday which I can't say for those two. I'm glad other devs are getting into the genre though. The Surge and Nioh were two of my favourite games this year.

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DS2 is trash for people who delude themselves into thinking Dark Souls PvP is worth anything beyond random invasions.

>>388300341
>>Teleportation unlocked from the start
>>No weapon degradation
are these somehow negative points

>>388297980
so much this. After the first playthrough, you've seen it all. Hardly worth playing it again since so many weapons play essentially the same. Weapon arts had potential, as did the make your own bonfire mechanic, but the former was lackluster and the latter didn't get implemented.

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>>388300434
Yes, casualization is never good. When you got the Lordvessel in DaS and were finally able to teleport it was an accomplishment, if you got stuck in Blighttown and needed to get back you had to pick yourself up and hike on out of there and it was an experience. Dark Souls III just streamlined everything to be a very bland and forgettable experience. It's not a bad game but it's not one that people will be discussing ten years later like they will be with Dark Souls.

>>388300578
>trudging through the same area you've been through a dozen times before
Teleportation is fine, replaying content you're overlevelled for sucks

>>388300578
I can agree with getting stuck somewhere being good in some cases but you could just disable teleportation out of that specific area. You know, like they did with the Painted World? Having teleports unlocked from the start is harmless in itself. Weapon degradation is also fine to tone down, as it doesn't really add much to the game to have your main weapon whittle down over time and be forced to make a trip back to a bonfire and/or a blacksmith. It straight up punishes you for playing the game.

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What are /v/'s thoughts on Nito?

It's garbage. No build variety. And it copy & pastes from the legendary Dark Souls 1. Now stop making this thread scrub.

>>388296993
The gameplay was better than 2 for sure so I wouldn't say its the worst.
>>388300160
also this op, I too am tired of arguing over which one is better.

>>388300718
real fuckin'

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>>388300702
It encourages using and upgrading more weapons as well as adding something to spend Souls on, they could've tweaked numbers without removing it entirely.

>>388300718
He's alright

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>>388300160
I've bought Dark souls once, finished it twice. i've bought Bloodborne once, finished it twice / thrice. I've bought dark souls 3 once, finished it twice.

Bought Dark souls 2 twice, haven't finished it once. Sold it twice.

>>388300851
actually making fun weapons does that without adding tedium

>>388300851
>they could've tweaked numbers without removing it entirely.
They've demonstrated since Dark Souls that it's easier for them to remove wonky mechanics than it is to fix them

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>>388300980
>TFW you realize everything brilliant about DaS I was a fluke or because they were able to make the game they wanted to make since no one thought it would succeed

>>388301078
>dark souls 1 map includes Abyss
>dark souls 2 map excludes DLCs

this is very clear favoritism

>>388301078
Lordran is even more connected if you account for areas being visible from others. For example tomb of the giants and demon ruins, or firelink and blighttown

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>>388301269
Good point, the macro world layout from Dark Souls is just brilliant on all accounts. The moment I took the elevator from Undead Parish back down to Firelink Shrine I knew I was in for something special.

>>388300336
Honor-fags are the worst. The random chaos of invasions and tension they created are what made 'em fun in demon's and early dark souls. That said, 3 is a bit biased against invaders.

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>>388302024
As far as multiplayer goes, even now there's still nothing more fun for me than hosting in irithyll with dried finger whether alone or with blue/white phantoms (even in a 1v3 situation it's easy to survive as a host).
Use blue covenant and summon a phantom or two if you want to, you'll get 3 invaders in no time. When it becomes 3v3, that's the real fun.

>>388296993
It was completely pointless.

>The Lords of Cinder
Each one of them was shit:

Abyss Watchers were just Artorias' legacy, who somehow all linked the flame together, a concept which is just retarded. When we find them they're killing each other. Maybe because the red-eyed one is touched by the Abyss, but who fucking knows. The fight is a fucking joke.

Aldrich has three fucking areas building up to him, and he turns out to be Gwyn from the first game, but with a giant blob for a lower half. All of his lore is nonsense and most of the game rides Pontiff's dick rather than explain Aldrich as anything more than a fat cleric that ate people, then linked the flame. Boring.

Yhorm is fucking nothing. The Profane Citadel was a blatantly unfinished area with no explanation as to what the fuck it even was, what the Profane Flame was, where Yhorm even came from, what the fuck ever. Then he dies in four his if you use a weapon they just hand to you. All of Yhorm and his backstory seem to exist just to give Aldrich and Pontiff some useless padding to their backstory.

Twin Princes supposedly started all of this by refusing to link the flame. The younger one was a crippled boy and the older one killed a demon. Then they die.

So the biggest hitters of the game are some of the worst fights with little to no interesting lore, largely because the entirety of the game is built on DaS1 references. Nothing exists on its own, and the things that were new, like the Profane Flame, get no explanation. We're just stuck with Artorias' fanclub, Aldrich the not Gwyndolin, Yhorm the shitty Giant Lord, and Twin Princes.

>>388296993
/v generally has terrible taste in games and is filled with contrarians that love to shit on games just cause it's the newest one in the series and darksouls has the worst fanbase ever.

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Dark Souls 3 is good. But its not great.

>>388296993
/v/ tells me to

>>388301078
>List every possible area for DaS1, including DLCs.
>Leave out Giant Memories and all DLC areas for DaS2.

>>388303291
Line for 3 should be way lower

>>388300718
Nashandra pulled off his outfit better.

>>388303291
Line for 1 should be same as 2s, you're in for a long shitty early game if you go the wrong ways.

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>>388303873
You're in for a long shitty end game if you keep playing.

>>388303945
home.