Marble Garden is the single best zone in Sonic

>>388286843
It, Carnival Night, and Sandopolis don't deserve the hate they've been getting lately

>>388286843
That's not Wacky Work Bench

That's not Labyrinth XD

Sonic 3 has lots of good zones so naturally ONE Zoe has to be the worst.

Good thing Sandopolis exists

ITT: shit taste

what's next, some dumbo saying
>that's not metropolis

urgh

>>388288835
Metropolis is the best classic zone though
>b-but duh enemies placement :((
Git fucking good as sick of you shitters

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Nah, you got it all wrong.

For my money though, it's gonna be Donut Plains 1 as best zone.

>>388286843
marble garden is fun but i couldnt figure out how to beat it as knuckles

>>388286843
Agreed, Too bad it wasn't in Sonic Mania even though it was basically Stardust Speedway Act 1

>>388289616
I really want to hate Metropolis but it has my favorite song in the entire game.

Honestly would have preferred that over Metallic Madness.

>>388288835
Wacky Work Bench and Sandopolis are great, fuck people. The worst zone is Carnival Night anyway.

>>388286843
No but OK.

>>388286843
Today OP was not a faggot

Unironic GOAT is Lava Reef Zone Act 2

>>388286908
Carnival Night is phenomenal
Sandopolis is kinda boring at times and overly long but it's not bad

>>388290038
Stardust Speedway act 1 used Sandopolis gimmicks too

They wouldn't be able to improve Marble Garden so why bother

>>388290107
Carnival Night is the best zone from those 3 you listed

FUCK all of you contrarians.

These and Metropolis are among the worst, and we've already had so many threads on why that is.

>>388290038
It was still fucking Stardust Speedway. I hate the layout of that zone, it doesn't feel like you're actually climbing on anything, you're just in a bunch of copypasted tubes in front of a background.

I guess you couldn't have both Marble Garden and Press Garden because the names would clash, but I love Marble Garden Zone.

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>>388290402
>contrarians
you misspelled "patricians"

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>>388290314
>Oil Ocean Act 2 was Sandopolis
>Stardust Speedway Ac1 was Marbel Garden
>MIrage Saloon Act 1 was Sky Chase
Any other zomes referenced

>>388290425
>tfw still haven't played Mania because PCcuck/poorfag

>>388286843
That's not aquatic ruin zone or chemical plant zone tho?

If Hydrocity was replaced by Marble Garden, Sonic Mania would be perfect.

>>388286908
Carnival Night has the misfortune of being the worst level in 3&K but it's still a solid level.

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>>388290382
Carnival Night has weak music visuals, and way too much time wasting shit. Sandopolis is a really long level and Wacky Work Bench is very nonstandard but they are both highly unique levels in a mostly positive way. They also have better music and bosses.

Wacky Work Bench Past is the best Sonic song of all time.

>>388290670
Palmtree Panic is too fun for me to agree

>>388286843
People actually hate this zone? It could be kind of annoying in Act 2 but it's nowhere near as godawful as Carnival Night Zone. Hell, I'd say it's better than Ice Cap Zone.

>>388286908
>Sandopolis

That zone stinks. It's too long and meandering.

>>388288674
Labyrinth actually is fucking good in terms of being actually satisfyingly difficult for a kid's game. Especially the boss. Sonic 1 was more about proving it had more power(speed) and complexity than Mario titles, and it did that beautifully.

>>388290521
Nearly every zone in the series was referenced. Mirage Saloon's lightbulbs are from Collision Chaos, for instance.

Mushroom Hill got kind of left out though, aside from the extendy bridges showing up in Stardust Speedway Act 1. I'm surprised they didn't include the lever things, because those were in Egg Garden in Taxman's old game.

>>388286908

Bleugh

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The best zone.

marble garden and carnival night are probably the absolute worst zones.

>>388290898
babby's first spring yard zone

I like marble garden if only for the music and the visuals

>>388291050
Same. Sonic 3's zones are kind of weak to me and S&K is much more memorable and better as a standalone title.

>>388288674
Sometimes I feel like the only person that actually likes labyrinth

>>388290850
the difficulty was alright but the frame drops were unforgivable

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>>388291048
FUCK YO MAMA.

>we got Green Hill again instead of Emerald Hill, Angel Island or Palmtree Panic
I also would have traded another visit to Chemical Plant for Marble or Spring Yard

>>388290521
Lava Reef was Hill Top.

>>388290670
>Carnival Night has weak music
>>>/trash/

>>388291497
He's right though.

>>388291367
>frame drops
what?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yx90TMgFv94&t=295s

Is this a zone? Idk i like the music

>>388291157

I think Sonic 3 works better with knuckles. I feel like the two complement each other.

>>388291559
Nope
It's godtier comfy

It's okay but it's not the best.
Hydrocity Zone is the best.

>>388291339

I like Labyrinth Zone as well.

>>388291157
>Sonic 3's zones are kind of weak to me
>S&K is more memorbale
What?
THEY'RE THE SAME DAMN GAME YOU FUCKING NIGGER

It's one fucking game that got split during development.

>>388291637
Hydrocity Zone act 2 has the best music in any vidya ever but Marble Garden is a far better zone than Hydrocity

>>388291560

I think he's talking about the slow downs

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BEST SONIC ZONE
EVER
inb4
>MUH ACT 2 DIFFICULTIES
why don't you stay on the higher path?

>>388291809
What slowdowns?
Labyrinth doesn't really have any framerate drops from what I recall

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>>388291497
>Game with Angel Island Act 2, Hydrocity Act 2, Marble Garden as a whole, and Launch Base as a whole
Yeah nah Carnival Night does not hold up. Ice Cap sucks too.

>>388291703
>S&K is better as a standalone title
Read nigga

>>388291787
I don't agree, but I'm fine with your opinion.

>>388291832
Mushroom Hill is legit one of the most underrated zones in classic Sonic.

>>388291860
S&K is not better as a standalone title at all
Only autists like you think that

>>388291832
My favorite first zone of a Sonic game. It makes for a good break after Launch Base Zone in S3&K as well.

>>388291664
>>388291339
I LOVE Labyrinth Zone.
The music, the secret shortcuts, the water. Fun times.
It is way better with spindash.

>>388291457

You listed like 7 starting zones there but left out the best one: Mushroom Hill.

>>388291929
Mind you Hydrocity is still a great zone

Mushroom Hill isn't underrated. It's generally well-liked.
It's zones like Marble Garden, Carnival Night and Sandopolis that generally are the most underrated because there are tons of uncultured plebs with shit taste out there.

>>388292061
I always use the shortcut in Act 1 though.

>>388291860
Carnival Night is fantastic
Just a notch below Marble Garden
Tons of secrets in that zones and I love the stage gimicks such as the balloons and those things that spin you around, the barrel etc.

From a storytelling perspective it's pure kino with Knuckles turning off the lights and just the general atmosphere of the stage...especially with that comfy music playing in the background.

>>388291859

I remember there being slow downs, a couple. At least, in the original Sonic 1. Are you talking about the PS360 port, mega collection port, Taxman port, Sonic Jam port, rom, or Genesis version?

>>388292114
Sandopolis Act 2 is one of my favorite zones in the franchise. It's fast, it's tense at points, I love how the music goes horror/hell mode compared to Act 1. I don't understand how people spend like 8 minutes in it, I can clear it in like 3/4 minutes.

>>388292061
>It is way better with spindash.
Nigger, it's not Labyrinth Zone if you have the spindash.

>>388292303
Genesis original
I don't ever remember there being frame drops

>>388292061

Same, I like it for all those reasons. Plus the challenge

>>388292000
it really is though. S&K is a much better game, the zones are so much better.

>>388292251
>marble garden
>carnival night
>good

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>he'll never ever return

>>388292331
>I don't understand how people spend like 8 minutes in it
The infinite loop thing surely
Also Carnival Night act 2 lasts really long if you don't take that one shortcut too

>>388292387

I haven't played Sonic 1 in a while. I'm going to be playing again soon, so I'll look out for any slowdowns. I swear I remember them being in the game.

Well, we'll see soon.

>>388291157
I don't notice a difference in quality

>>388292421
S&K is not a game, it's a half game
3&K is the complete game

Also Marble Garden and Carnival Night are some of the best designed levels of all time. Go fuck yourself you fucking pleb.

>>388292442
You mean jumping off from the platform the moment that speed up tunnel at the start ends? Going that way really shaves your time by like 3 minutes. Also the infinte loop thing is really not that hard to understand. Just jump to the left slide when the swinging platform is in sight and you're on your way.

>>388292514

The only difference I noticed is zones in Sonic and Knuckles being longer, larger in scale. At least, that's the sense I get from playing it.

>>388292494
I mean there might be some framerate drops like it dropping from 60fps to 59 or some shit like that but I don't remember something noticeable.

>>388292536
is this bait? everything you posted was outright wrong. 5/10

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>>388292000
S&K is the most consistent and solid experience of any Genesis Sonic release, hands down. Not a single stage in that game misses a beat.

>>388292514
That's because there is none since they're the same game

>>388292602
They're definitely not longer or larger
Maybe more linear on average but that's about it

>>388286908
you're right, marble garden deserves more

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>>388290670
>Not liking Carnival Night.
Get your ears checked.

>>388292612
There's a huge framerate drop if you get hit while in the water. The rings flying everywhere destroy it.

>>388292612

I don't know, maybe it's a false memory. But I recall the game being slower underwater. Not slower as in Sonic's movement, but the frames dropping pn occasion.

I'm going to look up a playthrough on YouTube really quickly. I need to see if this is a false memory or not

>>388292578
I'm talking about switching from that candy cane looking thing to the other in one of those segments. It saves a lot of time.

>>388286843
This zone and Labyrinth zone is why people say Sonic was never good.

>>388292721
I feel like I've seen a revolutionary war version of this meme

>>388292617
(you)

>>388292647
>S3&K is the most consistent and solid experience of any Genesis Sonic release, hands down. Not a single stage in that game misses a beat.
Fixed that for you

>>388292723

That's it! I remember now. This is true, every time you get hit underwater the game slows down.

>>388292723
>There's a huge framerate drop if you get hit while in the water.
Pretty sure that was done for visual effect

>>388292858
Except for the S3 part. Drop that.
2>S&K>CD>3>1

>>388292858
Combining the two falsifies this statement because Sonic 3 is very inconsistent in quality. And two two halves retailed as seperate releases and can be played independently of each other so what the fuck ever.

>>388286908
I like Marble Garden.
Carnival Night is okay, but I don't "casino/theme park" levels. That's on me though.

Sandopolis isn't great. Act 1 has boring level design.

Act 2 has some really interesting gimmicks and honestly I think it's better than Act 1, but it feels like it goes on for fucking ever.

>>388292682

I thought death egg was the longest. Certainly seemed that way to me. but maybe it's just my imagination. I do however, find the zones harder and Sonic and Knuckles, so maybe that's why they sometimes feel like a slog to me

>>388292746
Oh yeah, that part too near the end. Jump off at the right time and you skip a whole section.

>>388292858
>replying to the meme

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>>388292061
>Spin Dash

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this isn't working

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>>388286843
Wow OP I didn't realize you could spell Palmtree Panic like that, that's interesting
https://youtu.be/jr9i7w60Gm4

>>388292000
Trips of truth

>>388291569
I miss the style of music they were going for with Shadow in SA2.
He just ends up with generic "badass" buttrock music now.

I can't even think of a real band that sounds anything like Shadow's music in SA2.

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>>388286843
Thats not Holoska Night

Comfiest hub of ALL TIME THIS GAME WAS AESTHETICALLY PERFECT

>>388293189
Palmtree Panic lives on in Mania Green Hill Act 2.

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>>388292962
>Imagine being this much of a cuck
3K is the complete experience
Deal with it

>>388292964
>Sonic 3 is very inconsistent in quality
Hahahahahahahahahahha

>>388293029
>finding Sonic hard
Are you new or what?
They're all piss easy games don't see what's hard about them

Personally I've always been a fan of Lava Reef Zone.
It's a perfect late-game zone with lots of different paths, great aesthetics and great music.

Anyone else mad that S3&K still hasn't come out on the 3DS or Vita and probably won't even come out for VC on the Switch?
I wanna be able to play it on the go god damn it, it's one of the few games I can replay over and over again

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>>388293348
Marble Garden is okay at best but Carnival Night and Ice Cap are hot ass garbage and then Launch Base picks it back up some. Every level in Sonic & Knuckles is better than its counterpart level in Sonic 3 without exception.

>>388293410
I agree.

>>388293448
Supposedly there rights issues with a lot of the music.

Not sure how that works though as the Steam version is the Genesis/Mega Drive version, so they can obviously still publish the game as is.

>>388293448
Grab the Sonic Classic Collection on DS(3DS can play DS games)
Resolution is a bit squashed and sound is a bit worse but if you can put up with these issues it's solid

>>388293410
It's not my favorite, but I still didn't mind it. I love what Tee Lopes did to the Act 2 music though. He elevated it so hard.

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>>388293494
>Ice Cap are hot ass garbage

>>388293448
You have Sonic the Hedgehog 3D, what else do you need?

>>388293494
You know no matter how many times you repeat that trash it won't ever be true right?

Marble Garden IS GODTIER
Carnival Night IS GODTIER
Ice Cap IS GODTIER
Launch Base IS GODTIER

And 3K is one game and WILL ALWAYS BE ONE GAME.

Stick to Sonic 2 you piece of shit casual.

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boom out your ass

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Actual best zone coming through

>>388293713
Well you can keep saying that to yourself. I'll just keep playing Sonic & Knuckles without it being weighed down by the mediocre title that is Sonic 3. S&K is when Sonic hit its stride.

>>388293591
Tee's 3K remixes in Mania sucked hard
What was he thinking adding that guitar to a kino-tier track like Lava Reef act 2?

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>>388293759
>Suddenly notice weird dude sprite.

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>>388293737
>Bouncing on the mushrooms as a kid

>>388293817
The guitar was sick though.

I hope you fags realize that Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles were the same game until Sega decided to jew it up

>>388293813
Nobody shares your "opinions" you shitter
3&K is one game and that is a fact. Even the goddamn developers themselves wanted to release it as one game in the form of "Sonic 3 Limited Edition" because they were dissatisfied with the Lock-on thing(which was created specifically so the game can be played in it's entirety as intended in the first place) but Sega didn't let them.

>>388293395

I said harder you retard. I didn't say it was super Ghouls and ghosts or anything like that. Goddamn some of you fags insufferable.

>>388293919
More like the game couldn't be released on one cartridge so they split it into two.

>>388293956
No shit, this stuff is common knowledge. But it worked out for the better because again, the S&K portion blows the Sonic 3 portion out of the fucking water.

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Nah man, the best zone in Sonic is Hang Castle/Mystic Mansion.

>>388293919
Anyone who is a true fan knows that 3&K was split from the beginning because huge cartridges with non-volatile memory were expensive as shit and they though parents wouldn't buy their kid a 100+ dollar game

http://info.sonicretro.org/Game_Development:Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3#Game_Development

>>388294094
>neither this or Egg Fleet in Generations
The absolute worst

>>388294094
2D Sonic needs more haunted/spooky levels

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>all these people complaining about Sonic Mania's grab the sphere being hard
bitch please it's a walk in the park like 3's sphere. I just gotta wait til I play Mania.

>>388293974
It wasn't any harder than any of the other Sonic games
In fact I'd say Sonic 1 is the "hardest"

>>388293713
stop trying to bring down S&K by tacking on S3. Also Marble Garden and Carnival Night are crap.

>>388294337
It's the easiest, and also best, special stage in classic Sonic.

>>388294092
No it didn't work out of the better you autist because 3K should have been championed as the best platformer game ever fucking made but because of this fucking shit it doesn't get the recognition it deserves and we have fucking autists like you.

>>388294337
>using shitty NTSC filters
autism

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>>388294435
>best platformer game ever fucking made
Alright but Castlevania: Rondo of Blood exists.

>>388294361
Fuck off you fucking autist

>>388286843
I remember back when this game first came out every store that had this game set up was stuck on this level.

>>388294546
>Castlevania
Meh
And it's an action platformer not a traditional platformer like Sonic. They're 2 different things.

why do people seem to dislike carnival night? i get why some would find sandopolis 2 or marble garden mediocre (even if i don't agree) but carnival night has legitimately nothing offensive to it whatsoever

>>388294787
Anon, you know damn well what you're trying to do
Just stop

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>>388294732
Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island

>>388294787
I hate the music, visuals, and overall theme of Carnival Night. I don't like Carnival/Casino type levels at all outside of Collision Chaos. Also the level is obnoxiously designed and has a lot of shit that exists purely to waste time.

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>>388294508
His filtering looks like shit, you just need the good ones.

>>388294787
bad music
terrible level design

Marble Garden is worse though.

>>388294912
>Waaaah, waaaaaah the game
>better than 3K
Nah
World was better than it too(granted Yoshi's Island is a different game despite what the slapped on "World 2" title for the international release implies)

Heck YI is not even the best platformer of 1995. Ristar curbstomps the fuck out of that game.

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>>388294924
that still looks like SHIT, BITCH.

>>388294924
>bilinear blurry ass filter
yuck

just use standard fake scanlines it will look million times better than this garbage

>>388295157
Your image looks even shittier
Who the fuck enjoys Composhit(much less Genesis composhit which looks like dogshit)?

Get a fucking BVM CRT and play it through a real Sega Genesis through RGB SCART cables like you're supposed to.

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>>388295265
>Get a fucking BVM CRT and play it through a real Sega Genesis through RGB SCART cables like you're supposed to.
that's mere meme talk, I grew up with composite and it's gonna stay composite
it was built with composite in mind to and people who say it was for rgb say otherwise.

>>388292939
LOL

>>388295160
t. born in the 2000s

>>388295157
stop with this garbage

>>388291787

Just gonna post this for your enjoyment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Si-hCFFOv8

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>>388286843
>mfw metropolis has 3 zones

>>388295349
>it was built with composite in mind
No it wasn't
This isn't the NES

This is like saying PS3 was built with Composite in mind because it only came with Composite cables and you had to buy HDMI cables separately

RGB looks million times better than Composite. Especially because the Composite signal the Genesis output is godawful.

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>>388295465
t. for you

>>388295568
Metropolis was suppose to have two acts while a single act zone called Cyber City was suppose to be afterwards. But as you see it got scrapped and Metropolis got three acts.

>>388292430

Im legit mad as fuck because this guy hasnt ever gotten another cameo but Metal keeps getting more.

>>388295465
Just turn off that shitty bilinear filter you autist
That's not how the games looked on hardware. They never looked this fucking blurry even on crappy consumer CRT's holy fucking shit

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>>388295576
here's what it looks on my tv it doesn't need composite to look good

>>388295528
>that perfect replication of the monotone drumming in the background
This nigga gets this song unlike Tee

>>388291832
too much abstract shit and weird slow sections Green Hill is better in every measure.

>>388295748
You mean "it doesn't need RGB" right?
That(CompoSHIT) looks horrific compared to RGB on a good CRT.

>>388295465
>t. born in the 2000s
More like I spent my youth trying to escape from garbage rf then later composite video. No nostalgia for it.

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>>388295946
as long as it works im okay but tell me this, if RGB is so great why didn't they sell it in Americana? I asked /vr/ and they said America is "Third World"

>>388295993
This
People don't realize just how much RF/Composite ruined shit(especially the Genesis which had extremely poor Composite ouput)

I will say though if it's the only real option(like the NES for example) than it's the best option to go with because that console never had RGB natively and the color palette never looks right in RGB for that particular system(and even the various fan palettes designed to closely mimic the original palette are still off somewhat)

>>388295637
I'm ok, I wasn't born in the 2000s

>>388296351
But I was born in the Americanas.

how much sonic can go to space so much without any helmet/air, but drowns in water?

>>388296113
RGB was never adapted for broadcast in the US and consumer TV's never had any support for it.
The closest thing the US had to it was Component which was a bit different.

Japan had RGB support through JP-21 cables while Europe got it through SCART.
US Broadcast/Professional Monitors had RGB support via BNC cables(retro enthusiasts typically buy Scart-to-BNC cable to connect their consoles to their BVM/PVM's)

RGB is a color space. It basically allows a far broader color spectrum and far higher bandwidth for much sharper image quality.

>>388296425
never heard of it.

>>388296351
You clearly were born in the 2000s because the Genesis never used bilinear filtering

>>388286843
I used to hate it as a child but now it's one of my favorites.

>>388288674
Labyrinth is actually great, it's Marble that sucks ass.

>XD
Labyrinth definitely confirmed for great.

>>388287289
WW is so short, it's not good but not terrible nor long enough to leave such a nasty after taste. I bet you could complete WW 2 to 3 times in the time needed to do a single run of Carnival Night/Sandopolis act 2.

>>388296525
no old games had pictures so clear you can see each pixel clearly in the sprites. try again 2000s kid

>>388286843
Marble Garden is the single biggest blight on 3K.

>>388296430
He's only straight up in outer space when he's using his super and hyper forms
Other times he's usually on a space station that has some oxygen field or some bullshit

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>>388295578

i like the texture of this but no one's games looked like this back in the day.

this looks like you recorded your gameplay on a VHS tape.

>>388294227
Egg Fleet both acts is fucking awesome

>>388296886
what about each time the space station blows up and he falls back to earth, no super/hyper form.

>>388293286
>THIS GAME WAS AESTHETICALLY PERFECT
No, Pixarshit is bland and boring.

>>388296667
You could see each pixel on the screen if you had your eyes 2 inches infront of it and depending on how sharp your CRT was

But you never used a CRT in your life so you don't know what you're talking about

>>388297230
>outright lying or just doesn't have the slightest clue what she's talking about
sad

>>388297224
Agreed.
Graphics were very impressive though. And the environments were very good looking(although a bit too realistic looking for a Sonic game)

>>388297319
Yes, it was graphically impressive, but that's all.

>>388297307
>dumbass nu-male retro hipster thinking he knows shit about CRT's and tech
Gotta love this shit. Fucking hilarious.

>>388297350
Well the art-style was really good(just not for a Sonic game)...outside of the NPC's which looked like Dreamworks rejects that is.

The visuals is one of the things Unleashed has going for it other than that godtier soundtrack

>>388297458
also found the OST to be generic. Not bad, just not really Sonic-y.

>>388297508
That is some shit-taste right there tbqh.
And I don't see how it's not Sonic-y. Sonic doesn't really stick to one genre of music.

This really sounds like Sonic to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0I9M86BnF4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJMtNOj4PaE

Also Jungle Joyride references Sonic R
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9V363tCcHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf5kAC3hsDk

>>388290715
>People actually hate this zone?
Never doubt boostfag for having shit taste.

>>388297389
you talking about the queer claiming you can see each pixel in every sprite? that's the clueless numale hipster

>>388298102
No I'm talking about you you retarded wannabe
Any serious hardcore retro gamer knows Composite is garbage and they've upgraded to Trintron CRT's with RGB at least if not BVM/PVM's

They also use the real consoles unlike your ass who uses emulators with shitty bilinear filters

>No one has mentioned Altitude Limit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxYH56H-p00
Casuals. All of you.

>>388298368
>proving my point that you're a numale retro hipster thinking he knows shit about CRT's and tech
You're not even accurate at being a retro hipster either, how sad.

>>388298421
Altitude Limit is bottomless pit: the zone. No thank you.

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>>388286843
>read all the thread
>no one has mentioned Flying Battery Zone

You are pleb and you know it

>>388298463
>literally rehashing words I used to describe your pathetic ass
Try harder
In any case anyone who uses bilinear filtering doesn't know anything about retro gaming

>>388298549
It's one of the best zones in 3&K though bosses dedicated to just waiting for them to end/kill themselves sours it a bit.

>>388298591
I wasn't born in the 2000s, so I want it to look more like a CRT TV.

>>388298474
Sonic Rush has some of the best and hardest levels in the series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLnJiwV3s-4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yvu9z5IZHU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYaxdrMHb3c

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>>388298737

>>388298737
It doesn't look anything like a CRT TV
If you want it to look like a crappy cheap consumer CRT running composite from back in the day then fucking use Blargg's NTSC filter like anon does in pic related >>388295349

And this is how it truly looked in a crappy cheap consumer set from the 80s/90s on an original console >>388295748

25% scanlines and bi-linear filtering like you're using looks NOTHING like a CRT

>>388298737
Also see >>388298950
This is what the games look like on a high quality CRT through RGB cables

This is a very zoomed in shot too

>>388290402
Nigga, how the fuck do you hate Metropolis Zone? That's when the entire cinematic arc of Sonic 2 starts!
Metropolis > Sky Chase > Wing Fortress > Death Egg

nah that's Starlight Zone

https://youtu.be/RVAzxhh_cB8

>>388299064
It starts in Wing Fortress actually

>>388298987
>>388299046
nice samefagging, but I want it to look like a CRT TV, not like on a modern computer monitor.

>>388299492
>the nu-male faggot who actually emulates games on an LCD instead of actually playing them in a real CRT through the original console actually thinks he can talk
Kill yourself you fucking nu-male turd.

>>388295629
I don't understand this either. Metal Sonic's design sucks ass and so did his battle in CD. Mecha is so much better.

>>388294094
Hang Castle is rad as hell
Mystic Mansion can eat a dick.

>>388299492
>I want it to look like a CRT TV, not like on a modern computer monitor.
>says that while he emulates the game on an LCD
Oh the irony

>>388299760
His battle in CD was great, git gud faggot
I agree Mecha is cooler though
>dat Super transformation

>>388299851
Not really. Knuckles fight with Mecha is more interesting and fun.

>>388299719
>>388299805
>samefag proving me right, really is a numale retro hipster
this is very rich. also my monitor is OLED

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>>388295629
This is the reason why
https://youtu.be/kTl3h39abxc

>>388299902
It literally isn't besides the Super transformation being cool. It's pretty damn easy and not that original.

The race against Metal Sonic is a lot more challenging and tests your mastery of the physics

>>388300107
They're both piss easy.

>>388286843
an unfortunately large number of Sonic zones are shit and Mable Garden is not an exception

>>388300007
That's still a modern display not a CRT
And I doubt it's a monitor it's probably a TV since the only OLED monitors in the market are the expensive Sony professional ones or that Dell one which is also very expensive

>>388300150
Definitely not.
The fight against Metal in CD can be very hard. You can easily screw it up if you mistime a jump

There's actually possibility of you dying in that fight even if you're good at the game. While Mecha/Super Mecha is a cakewalk if you're good at the game.

>>388291832
>janky mushroom physics
>they fart when you touch them

It's shit.

>>388300463
>janky mushroom physics
git gud

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>>388300270
while you're here shitposting about how you're a retro hipster who only plays on original hardware and CRTs, I'm basking in the glory of playing quality 90s games that have a perfect CRT look.

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>>388300601
>that blurry ass shit
>perfect CRT look

>>388300682
it's not blurry, and yes that's how a CRT looks. people born before the 2000s appreciate that look.

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>No one gives a shit about the Advance games
Route 99 is the best starting stage.

>>388300759
>it's not blurry
Yes it is

>that's how a CRT looks
No it isn't. It's clear you haven't ever used a CRT in your goddamn life.

>>388290898
10/10 artistic direction

>>388300150
Sonic is easy

>>388300759
Bruh CRTs do not look like that and CRTs suck shit.

>>388300601
That shit looks like garbage I have a trinitron that has a better picture than that shit

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>>388300784
>Ocean Base
Best water level of all time

https://youtu.be/sagOXL0ziFk

Ruins zones > Urban zones > Grassy zones > Night zones > Water zones

>>388290521
Could someone point out what exactly is referenced from the old zones in Mania's zones? I didn't get to play all the old school Sonic games

>>388301675
>>388301961
>>388302012
>still samefagging this plainly

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>>388302423
>he actually took time to edit this

>>388302012
He literally thinks 25% scanlines and bilinear filtering in Kega Fusion looks like a CRT

Typical numale hipster

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>>388302356
naw it really looks like shit

>>388302146
Sonic eats radioactive CHilidog in Studiopolis, a reference to his origin story in the official iceland stage show.

Seriously there's too many to count. Like Press Garden has the Ice Blowers from Ice Cap and Lava Reef has Quartz Quadrant styled conveyer belts.

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>>388302461
I can't work that fast my man.

CRTs are shit, that filter is shit, you are shit. Wacky Work Bench Past is still the best sonic song. Listen to >>388302026 this shit is pretty fire too.

>>388286908
None of the stages in 3&K are bad, but some of them have some weak aspects to them.

I'd say Marble Garden is the weakest overall, but it still has some really neat aspects to it.

>>388291832
Best starting zone by a good margin and a great zone, fucking loved the aesthetic they use there.

>>388302105
Water zones in Sonic are awesome, because they usually stress the importance of separate paths. Upper paths allow you to bypass the underwater segments and lower ones put you at risk of drowning. People who don't understand Sonic level design can easily see the benefits of taking the upper path on these stages, as well as these stages having a fairly big benefit to the people that can stay on the upper path.

>>388302423
>>388302512
>>388302535
(you) sad samefag

Best zone in Classic Sonic games is Ice Cap in both design and music.
I'm sad that Ice Cap wasn't in Sonic Mania.

Better fucking be in the next one.

>>388302560
Doesn't one of the Stardust Speedway acts have those unraveling things from Mushroom Hill?

>>388302625
>Marble Garden is the weakest overall
shit taste

>>388302597
CRT's aren't shit
CRT's are actually still the best display technology you newfag

High-end PC CRT Monitors still remain unmatched
They have the best combination of motion clarity, no input lag, ability to use multiple resolutions, best/most accurate colors, ability to use really high refresh rates at high resolutions etc.

>>388304354
>enemies that appear on screen with spikes out, are unkillable until they put their spikes back in
>swing spike ball traps that don't spawn in until its middle pole is on the egde of the screen, meaning the spike ball will fly forward and cover a third of the screen the second it's visible
>crusher traps that when combined with the swinging spike ball traps make for some really cunty level design.

They're good stages, but they definitely have drawbacks.

>>388304449
Recommend a elder god tier CRT

>>388290853
>Mirage Saloon's lightbulbs are from Collision Chaos, for instance.
Why do idiots keep saying this? They work nothing like the bubbles in CC. They work like the balloons in carnival night.

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>>388300784
Chaos Angel is the best Ending Zone

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>>388307610
Gotta add that awesome arrangement from Johnny Atma (Gametal)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5AOTaXld1E&t=299s

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>>388302026

Ocean Base isn't even the water level. Twinkle Snow is the real underwater level, and the best level of that game.

Also the Sonic 3 half has Hydrocity and Launch Base, those are some of the best zones of all time. I also like water levels in Sonic, you can either avoid much of the water, or actually play through most of them pretty fast anyway. Especially god damn Pirates' Island in Rush Adventure, is there a single more underrated zone?

>>388291832
>playing S&K for the first time as a kid and being utterly blown away by MH

>>388292061
Labyrinth has so much stuff to do, it's legit great. Plus it has alternate paths.
>It is way better with spindash
Faggot.

>>388293713
Your taste is shit, your logic is shit but hey in a surprising twist at least your recommendation is legit.

>Stick to Sonic 2
Always.