>low-budget spinoff entirely devoted to fanservice pandering

>>388273746
Nice bait

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>>388273746

Yeah, this was. It's the best FF game in the whole series actually.

almost bought it, but then i remembered that ff sucks.

I wish they'd make a sequel or something. The world design was a bit linear and I wish Villains other than Sephiroth would have shown up, but it really was a nice little game.

>>388273746
>>388274191

Funny how the games that are franchise-wide celebrations are usually better than individual entries. Must be cuz they usually only pick the cream of the crop.

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>>388273746
Sadly enough that's true.
Tons of content, good music, good endgame content including a fucking mech from XG, tons of girls with thicc thighs, combat is a nice turn on the usual atb system and is well balanced

>>388275540
It's because fan-service + having fun.
It helps that the elements are technically already established.

>>388273746
That game was fucking god awful.

>>388275540

In the case of Theathrythm, its because they reduced the entire series to just the music and basic character archetypes. You lost all the shitty story, plot twists, voice acting and everything else that makes main series FF games so annoying.

>>388276379

Don't forget all the classic monsters and summons.

>>388273746
>inb4 triggered FF fags that don't know what a decade is and think people talk about the pre PS3 games

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>>388273746

>>388273746
this game sucked

>>388276597

>Ya want some coffee with your sugar?

>>388275760
What made her hate men so much?

Game is nice but hardly amazing. It's pretty braindead most of the time. They try to do a pokemon thing with weaknesses and strengths but in the end levels end up mattering more than anything. So you can beat the game quite easily with whatever you want. Reynn was hot though and had some killer legs and a nice butt. Also
>twins
>one room
>one bed

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I wish they ported it to PC because it does look fun.

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>>388276486

I also forgot the skills. While it doesn't seem that important, customizing your characters with classic FF skills is more fun than you'd think it would be. Just like how customizing skills is the only fun part of FFTactics. So Theathrythm already is juast as fun as FFTactics.

But then the main gameplay also turned out to be fun. And also more challenging than a typical FF game. Despite being basically Osu! If people could just look past the chibi character design, they'd probably agree this is one of the best games in the series.

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>>388276909
If you're even somewhat interested in Japanese games, it's worth getting a PS4 now if you haven't already. Unless you're in a third-world shithole like Brazil or Eastern Europe, in which case I'm sorry.

Also, Serafie is a riot.

>>388276848
They bullied her

I wouldn't exactly call it a 10/10 or anything, but it was a fun little game. Not a masterpiece, but it didn't do anything WRONG, and honesty that's enough for me.

>>388277365
>tfw my normie non gamer gf is a fucking prodigy at this game
Fuck me its hard on the higher difficulties.

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>>388277939
>but it didn't do anything WRONG
She never got naked.

>>388273746
The most boring FF released in over a decade.

>>388277939

>its not good, but it didn't do anything to get me mad
It's a sign of how bad the FF series is when this is the standard people are using to judge them. But after games like FFXII, XIII and XV, I can see why its come to this.

>>388273746
I guess if this garbage is what you think the FF series should be, I can understand why you think its the best FF game in over a decade.

>>388276597
>stop
>pls stop
>it's no longer coffee
>would you like some coffee with your sugar, you crazy woman?

>>388277697
Not him but I'm in a third world shithole and got a PS4 anyway, I don't see what the problem should be.

>>388273746
>one save file

>>388278037
how can one 15yo girl be so sex?

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>>388273746
I found WoFF more likeable than fucking XV

>>388275760
The last thing I did was get to her. What percentage of the game would you say she is at?

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>>388278420
>I guess if this garbage is what you think the FF series should be,

it's better than what Square thinks the FF series should be

>>388279483
>The last thing I did was get to her. What percentage of the game would you say she is at?
around the 60% mark.

>>388276597
this is pretty much me watching my friend get "coffee". He asks for so much flavor shots that doesn't end up tasting like coffee at all.

>>388273746
Not that hard when the only mainline ff games in the last decade was Movie Fantasy xiii and Kingdom Fantasy xv

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>>388279429
>more likeable than fucking XV
You say that like it's hard to make a game better than XV.

Can someone who DIDN'T like this game explain why? I rented it and ended up running out and buying it the next night. Put 60 hours into it that week. More than I can say about 15

>>388278420
>Actual gameplay and not an autobattle simulator like XII, whatever the hell XIII's battle system was supposed to be and running around throwing your sword like an idiot around in XV

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>>388276597

>>388279973
>You say that like it's hard to make a game better than XV.

true.

>>388279991
Remember that FF XV was supposed to "free FF from the shackles of turn-based combat and the old fans that were holding the series back, and bring the series into a golden age" according to the more extreme side of the XV fanbase

Still holding out on a PC release. I hate buying console games, especially when I might have to double dip.

>>388276597
His face as he gets more distraught is great

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>>388280053
>mfw hot coffee/ cold coffee jokes in Project X Zone 2

Project X Zone 3 when? We still don't know what Dante wanted to sue Vergil for.

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>>388278037
Id fug 'er

>>388279718
The models in Pocket Edition look fine, the problems with it are the lack of facial animations and the fact it's a phone game which are always irredeemably awful thanks to the dogshit nature of touch controls.

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Can we agree goblin queen is best girl?

All she wants is a good dicking

>>388273746
Yeah, it's almost like people who play JRPGs don't like the actual RP portion of it and just want a shitty grinding game.

>>388280390

2D Reynn > CG model Reynn

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>>388279429
WoFF feels like it has more heart put into it then XV

>>388280264
If there's one thing i'll give modern Square games, if they don't have painted-on faces then the facial expressions are pretty fucking great because they still handcraft them rather than your usual facial motion capture hijinks (maybe FFXV aside, but I still think they handcrafted the facial animations). So when it's time for a close-up in a cutscene, they have a lot more nuance than most other games on the market. The Kingdom Hearts games especially do hand-done lip syncing to the vocal tracks so it's not off in either Japanese or English usually.

Xenoblade Chronicles X in comparison just has set character expressions and loose lip sync, and it can come off as pretty damn stiff despite the rest of the game being pretty good.

>>388280158
>free FF from the shackles of turn-based combat
"Lets turn this series into something completely different"

Anyone who says this doesn't actually like Final Fantasy and wants to just say they can't for nerd cred

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>>388280465
She is always fine

>>388276909
Celes is cute. CUUUTE!!!!

and thats why there wont be figures or plushies of her or the other Chibi FF heroes!

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Don't open, best FF girl is inside

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HAYAI

>>388277697
>If you're even somewhat interested in Japanese games, it's worth getting a PS4 now if you haven't already
If you don't care about Souls and SMT then no, there's no reason to own a PS4. That's not widespread japanese support, it's two extremely narrow niches. I was planning to buy a PS4 for Ys 8 and Cold Steel 3 but then the former got announced for PC and the latter almost certainly will too.

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WoFF and DQB were my favorite games of last year

Also WoFF still has what is hands down the best PS4 theme there is. Nine Wood Hills is great.

>>388280984
That theme is adorable, but fucking SE are wanting $5 for it.

>>388280596
This idea that all the other drastic changes to the battle system over the years were A-Okay but having real time combat suddenly makes it unacceptably different is fucking retarded. It's Final Fantasy, it's built to change. I like turn based combat as much as anyone, but endlessly whining about Final Fantasy of all things not having consistency between entries in the series is laughably stupid.

The whole point of the series is to take drastic departures and try new things. Saying "it's too different" is utterly retarded, it could have been a fucking FPS and as long as it had RPG elements and an interesting setting, it would have been just as valid a Final Fantasy game as any other because there is literally no cohesion between entries in the series.

>>388280451
>implying the entire industry isn't in love with grinding
Take a look at the most popular games. Every multiplayer game is now a progression grind and that's not even mentioning the godawful first person Diablo clones that are starting to clog the market like Destiny, Borderlands and Anthem which are literally nothing but grinding, they might as well be multiplayer cookie clicker.

>>388281239

Frankly, the real time combat was a refreshing change of pace after the other 14.

It just needed a little polish, and a better (read: not terrible) story to wrap it around.

>>388280503
because it does

>fun side game made with tons of love for the fans and the series

vs

>holy shit we've been making this shit for 10 years just get it out the door already

>>388279718
oddly enough the unique style in that looks a hundred times better than the poor attempt at hyper-realism of the original game

>>388280451
>RPing as a bunch of fags dressed like a boyband in a game where 50% of the story was cut and put into separate content like a movie and anime

Or maybe the RP portion of FF XV is garbage.

>>388280158

Reminder that the FF fanbase has been claiming every main FF game since 12 was going to save the franchise. And every time, they were the ones clamoring that the game they blindly hyped turned out to be shit.

>>388281239
I sure as hell wouldn't play it. Change doesn't mean overhaul completely.

If you like Action RPGs, play Kingdom Hearts, don't demand FF become a Kingdom Hearts clone.

>>388273746
>>ends up being the best FF game in over a decade- 70 posts and 21 image replies shown.
Don't delude yourself faggot.

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>>388281446
>It just needed a little polish
No, it needed to be headed by someone who knew what they were doing. They made the combat in XV bad on purpose.

>>388281239
But.... that is why people play sequels, because they like how the previous games are.

If you want to make a big hack and slash game, go ahead, but don't use a pre-existing series to market it.

>>388273746
hope this gets a sequel since DQbuilders got one coming

>>388281723
>don't demand FF become a Kingdom Hearts clone.
Try and stop me, i'll demand every series you like to become a Arpg and there's nothing you can do

>>388281723
>Change doesn't mean overhaul completely
I take it you utterly despise the ATB games then, hm? After all they overhauled completely the pure turn based system of the early entries and added your much hated real time elements.

>If you like Action RPGs, play Kingdom Hearts, don't demand FF become a Kingdom Hearts clone.
Remember when Kingdom Hearts got a weird card game spin off that ended up being extremely important to the series storyline? Remember how it was embraced by the community and was fairly well liked and wasn't endlessly whined about by autists who couldn't accept change?

>>388281906
FF Builders when?

>Make Tidus live in a 5-square room with just enough space to stand up, but not sit down or walk around

>>388279804
To be fair. Coffee is gross and its only needed for the caffeine. I probably, literally, use as much sugar as is used in that webm. As well as a ton of Whole Milk.

>>388273746
When does it get good?
I played the demo and I thought the systems were really neat and the boss was fun to fight against since you had to topple her in order to remove chunks of her strength or enhance her weaknesses. But holy shit is everything so slow and every animation seems to take forever. I mean, it could be partially low level stuff like having such low speed means a big delay between either party's attacks, but I don't think I'm going to buy the game if I have to fast forward though the whole thing like 12.

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>>388273746
>It makes me just want to laugh out loud!

>>388282003
>>388282024
So basically,

>it's fine when I demand it

>>388281826
Were the previous one bad by accident?

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>>388281446
It isn't final fantasy without turn based combat.

Its the same as saying that a turn based god of war would still be god of war, its fucking retarded.

I'll still buy it though when it comes to PC.

>>388282203
Only I, II, III and X have turn based combat though.
>TFW there are only four Final Fantasy games

>>388281832
>But.... that is why people play sequels, because they like how the previous games are.
Not the Final Fantasy series. Or, more accurately, that's why the FF fanbase is constantly at war with itself because no two entries are remotely similar.

>>388282125
Yes

>>388279804
>doesn't end up tasting like coffee at all

Yes, that's the idea. The vast majority of people on the planet hate the taste of coffee, they just want the benefit of the effects it has on your body. So they do everything they can to cover up the god awful taste with other shit.

It's the same reason mix drinks are so much more popular than straight up alcohol is.

>>388273746
It really is quite good. Put about 30 hours into the Vita version so far, been loving it.

>>388279991
My main gripe was every new monster you catch starting at level 1. Not much incentive to use anything new. Also, Tama's dialogue and verbal tic was genuine, unironic cringe.

I ended up dropping it after you meet Faris.

>>388280748
My nigga

where is the reynn/quacho/undead princess/goblin princess porn?

>>388282203
>Its the same as saying that a turn based god of war would still be god of war, its fucking retarded.
>what is Doom RPG

>>388282125
I didn't demand a damn thing. I don't care if FF is an ARPG or not. I just hate you retards that whine that "it's not a TRUE FF", as if there is such a thing.

>>388273746
cute game, yeah pretty much

>>388282098

>I have no idea how to react to that, so I'm just gonna ignore you.

>>388274191
>tfw they put Crystal Chronicles music in Curtain Call

It was such a nice little surprise.

>>388282269
>being this autistic

He didn't say "traditional turn based", he just said "turn based". Every mainline FF was some variation of turn based combat, even XI, XII, XIII and XIV are.

FFXV is the only one that literally isn't turn based in any way shape or form. It is purely an action RPG.

>>388282309
Oh man you dropped it super early. It really hits its stride later and leveling monsters becomes trivial

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>>388282628
And it provided one of the best combat systems we've ever see, what's the problem?

I wasn't a fan of WoFF, it was too easy, stacking made you capable of absolutely shitting on every single boss with only the slightest amount of pre-planning.

now I want a FF racing game, diff mounts on roads, skies, an seas. Invincible-main here

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>>388282516
>DLC adds Bravely Default, TWEWY, and Neir songs

I see Final Fantasy as what it is: an anthology series. A few familiar themes, monsters, and names, but otherwise each entry can be whatever it wants to be. Nothing is really set in stone.

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>>388282721

>now I want a FF racing game

>>388273746
Game had full voice acting, none of that half-voiced, half-unvoiced shit

It was pretty nice

>>388282628
>pre FF6
EVERY FINAL FANTASY HAS BEEN PURE FANTASY, A SCIFI FINAL FANTASY ISN'T A TRUE FINAL FANTASY
>pre FF7
EVERY FINAL FANTASY WAS 2D, A 3D FINAL FANTASY ISN'T A TRUE FINAL FANTASY
>pre FFX
EVERY FINAL FANTASY WAS WORKED ON BY SAKAGUCHI, A FINAL FANTASY WITHOUT HIM ISN'T A TRUE FINAL FANTASY
>pre FFX-2
EVERY FINAL FANTASY HAS BEEN STANDALONE, A FINAL FANTASY WITH A DIRECT SEQUEL ISN'T A TRUE FINAL FANTASY
>pre FFXI
EVERY FINAL FANTASY HAS BEEN SINGLEPLAYER, A MULTIPLAYER FINAL FANTASY ISN'T A TRUE FINAL FANTASY
>pre FFXII
EVERY FINAL FANTASY HAS HAD FULL PARTY CONTROL, A FINAL FANTASY WITHOUT FULL PARTY CONTROL ISN'T A TRUE FINAL FANTASY

I could go on but I won't.

>>388273746
It's an okay game but you have to be a major contrarian to say it's the best anything. The combat was braindead and way too slow, the story was awful, the new characters were mostly bland, and the cameo characters were all Flanderized.

>>388282758
This is pretty much what it's become, and it's annoying to see "purists" get pissy about action combat, or those trying to bitch that all turn-based combat was outdated and needed to go. Let a game do its thing on its own merits rather than strictly have to be "a Final Fantasy game in gameplay" when not even the series is consistent with itself.

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>>388282516

The music in Crystal Chronicles surprised me so much, I went and listened to the whole OST. Same with FFXIII.

>>388282752

And Mana and Chrono Trigger. Yet there's no Chrono Cross for some strange reason.

Has anyone played FF Exvius?

I rarely play games on my phone but this game caught my interest, is it a p2w game? Is it reminiscent of the older FF games?

>>388282758

What this guy said. Its the Twilight Zone of vidya. Judge each game on its own merits.

Oh man I wonder if this shit thread has anything to do with FFXV finally getting a PC port and our sony friends trying to save face.

>>388283218
Maybe, just maybe, everything isn't about petty console war bullshit.

>>388283218
Just you being stupid you dumb faggot

>>388283080
>Yet there's no Chrono Cross for some strange reason.

probably because it was a bad sequel and disliked by the fans.

>>388283136
played it for a bit but dropped it because it was draining so much data

>>388283218
>/v/
>"FF15 isn't so good"
>Most people unanimously agree
>PC port announced
>Suddenly it's good

Nah
Take your platform war bullshit somewhere else though

>>388281239
>but having real time combat suddenly makes it unacceptably different is fucking retarded
Because despite each game changing it up from game to game the base gameplay was still the same.

>>388282714
XV has some of the worst real time combat systems ive had the displeasure of playing. It's a complete fucking mess.

>>388282880
It was so weird, in a good way, hearing all those deep male voices come out of tiny chibi bodies.

>>388283136
Record Keeper is better in every way

>>388283417
>"FF15 isn't so good"
>Most people unanimously agree

>things that never happened

>>388283136
it's p2w, yes. It's generic gachashit. throw money at it until you get the good characters, shit all over the event stuff, new event comes out that requires the new hot stuff so you throw more money at it to get them.

They're reasonably generous with currency to get free rolls for characters but it's still all rng based.

Only game that ever did it right was record keeper. You could beat the hardest shit with free characters no problem if you trained and equipped them properly.

>>388283373
It had fantastic music though.

>>388282714
Anon I like XV a lot but let's not pretend the combat isn't shallow as fuck. Even the DS Kingdom Hearts games have more in-depth combat.

>>388283565
>It had fantastic music though.

even bad games can have good music because music is like the one thing that can not be crippled by shitty game direction, bad hardware, bad gameplay, etc... when it comes to games.

Unless you use intentionally shit music. Like wubstep for DmC

>>388283136
it's p2w unless you spend 10 hours rerolling

>>388283430
>FFX has the same gameplay as FF7 has the same gameplay as FFXII
Do you FFXV shitposters even play the series?

>>388283029
you're retarded, this is about gameplay, not settings.

my god the amount of autism...

>>388283648
Yeah but since we're talking about a crossover with a rhythm game, the quality of the music is more important than the quality of the game itself. Hell, Nier got music in Theatrhythm, that's a FAR worse game than Cross.

>>388282847
game that features the vehicles

>>388283783
>Nier worse than Chrono Cross
I will fight you on this, and I say this as someone who likes Cross

>>388283825
Nier is genuinely a bad game though.
>Abysmal graphics
>Terrible performance
>Janky combat
>Fetch quests are Korean MMO tier
>Platforming is incredibly awkward
>Grinding for drops is terrible
The only fun thing about Nier is messing around with Weiss' different abilities.

>>388283825
Chrono Cross has an ambitious story with some terrible writing here and there and some really good writing elsewhere, great art design, a great combat system, a terrible cast and an incredible soundtrack.

Nier has an ambitious story with okay writing, mediocre art design, a terrible combat system, a good cast and an incredible soundtrack.

I'd say they're about tied but Cross takes it because I think it has more interesting ideas.

>>388281239
While I agree that FF should change up the battle system, for the majority of the series up to IX the battle system was building up from the previous game, X was a radical change, people complained so they reverted back to the ATB in X-2, XI was an MMO so they had to change it again but then XII turned XI system into an evolution of the ATB. From XIII onward they didn't know what to do with the system anymore.

I don't think FF is or needs to be turn based, but it is mostly command based, you tell a party of characters what to do, XII had the right idea into making real time combat in the map with the gambits so you don't have to stop every time to tell everyone what to do but still keep total control but then XIII went to far ahead in simplifying it. I haven't played XV yet but if it doesn't have any sort of party control then the series is going backwards.

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>>388284121
>XIII went to far ahead in simplifying it.
Except that's the only system to add some sort of mechanical nuance to ATB. From refreshing your bar, to cancelling strings to prolong a launch on an enemy to queuing one spell in a class and then changing before it goes off to change the effect of it. It's the only time they actually warranted using ATB since it did something that couldn't have been achieved with a typical turn base system.

It's your fault for not looking more into it.

>>388284134
has the price dropped?

$60 seems much to spend on a Minecraft clone and I played the demo

>>388284121
>I haven't played XV yet but if it doesn't have any sort of party control then the series is going backwards.
you can order them to use items but they basically run around and occasionally attack enemies.

>>388284121
>From XIII onward they didn't know what to do with the system anymore.
Probably because suddenly each game is having entirely different directive leads because the Square-Enix merger fucked the company hard enough that they've had to mix things up since FFX. If people want their classic Final Fantasy-style fix besides Bravely Default, something like Lost Odyssey is like a lost title (and compatible with Xbox One, too) thanks to being directed by the former head of Square.

When they lost the people in charge that had cohesive game design mindsets, every game since then has experimented and switched it up radically off of the backbones of past titles. These are the same games that now get most of the criticism post-merger, spinoffs and bad mobile games aside.

>>388283373

>probably because it was a bad sequel and disliked by the fans.
By that logic half the extra games wouldn't be in there. Or half the FF games.

The more logical reason is either problem getting the rights for the music or they planned it for a later release and just didn't bother.

>Chrono Cross sucks!
>no Nier does
>fuck you!
>fuck you too!
Idiots.

>>388284029
>a terrible combat system
I disagree wholeheartedly. The melee combat is pretty shallow, but once you're no longer stuck with the shitty one-handed swords and can use the MUCH better two-handers the combat gets much more satisfying. The real fun comes with the magic system, which is both unique and satisfying to use. The only problem with it is having to wait for your magic bar to refill.
>mediocre art design
Even if the in-game graphics didn't do it justice, the art design is incredible and one of my favorite things about the game. It perfectly captures the aesthetic of a world that has moved on.

>>388284391
It's already dropped to $30-40 in Australia (It was released as a full-price $90 game here originally), so I'm assuming it's done it internationally as well.

>>388279429
so this is spiral energy...not bad...

>>388283136
Mobius is better. Surprisingly merciful for gachashit too.

>>388284391
It's about $30 right now, which is honestly probably a bit pricey for some considering the sequel's already announced.

>>388284391
>has the price dropped?
$30 on amazon US right now. About the same on Walmart

>>388284887
>$30 on amazon US right now. About the same on Walmart

nice and with my employee discount I negate the taxes

>>388273746
I was a bit disappointed about the lack of a character equip screen. At the very least the mirage boards were a fun way to get new skills and mirages.

>>388284353
I meant in the controlling party members department since you had far less control into what each party member could do than XII. Also, while I did look into it, is not my fault that after hours of tutorials and a long ass compendium the game never bother to explain the intricacies of the paradigm shift.