Is there a Vidya faction that could defeat the Combine?

Halo. Eh's a pretty cool faction and doesn't afraid of anything.

>>388260923
>You now realize that the symbol represents the dyson shere

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>>388260923
The Galactic Federation could send an all out galactic attack while Samus with many other bounty hunters infiltrate the dyson sphere and try to blow it up. I assume that it would take an entire month if they're effective

>>388262647
thats just one dyson sphere

>>388263223
where is it implied that they have more?

>>388263334
If they have the tech to build one I'm sure they have the tech to find other stars and construct them

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>>388262642
oH FUCK ME

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>>388260923
Asura. By himself.

Next.

>>388263392
but did they have the time?
a dyson sphere, even with all the tech would take about 70 - 500 years to build depending on the size of the star

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>>388260923
Yes

>>388263472
>faction

>>388263648
1 man faction

>>388262642
>It isn't a planet within the claw's grasp
>IT'S A FUCKING STAR

>>388262647
Better yet, just drop some metroids off to either feast on they Dyson Sphere or eat combine who lack Ice weapons

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these guys

>>388262642
holy shit

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>>388262642
I always thought it was just a man with his hands in the air

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>>388260923
this guy could do it alone

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>>388262642
>it was in our face the whole time
>the actual Combine Dyson sphere would've had that same angular design the citadels had
fucking hell

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>>388264226

>>388264226
His mass colliding with the dyson sphere would knock it out of orbit and cause it to intersect with it's star and fly off into space

>>388264004
>drop some metroids
>implying they have any
>implying Samus will let them have one

Haha get fucked humanity xeno wins again

>>388264015
But halo managed to singlehandedly kill them, and eh was just one guy.

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>>388260923
>combine symbol is the simplest possible representation of an object being grasped
>the circle can represent a person, a world, a star or the universe itself
>a multiversal empire needs a symbol that any sapient life form from any dimension can understand with perfect clarity:
>"We are the Combine, and we own you"

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>>388262642
Oh FUCK.

>>388262526
epic meme, fellow gamer. upvote

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>>388264169
>Imbecil
>AAAAAARGH!

>>388260923
The Outsiders from the X series of games could do it. Probably the Ancients and Sohnen too.

>>388260923
The Burning Legion if Sargeras is allowed to stomp on the surface of the sphere for a few years.

>>388264436
Pretty sure they first found metroids on a GF research ship, and pretty sure there were some in Other M

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gg easy

>>388260923
Post-Heresy Imperium of Man might be a pretty good match-up

>>388264226
You monster!

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Could the Combine stop and conquer Remina?

>>388264321
>the opening is the lens they use to direct the energy of the star to sterilize planets galaxies away

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>>388262642
ah.. shit

>>388264801
yes

>>388263334
probably they have more and even in different dimensions too

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>>388260923
The Bydo empire from the R-type series can handile take them on. It migt be a bit unfair for the combine though.

>>388262642
Oh fuck me

>>388264015
>Halo aliens
>beating a civilization measuring at 2 in the Kardashev scale
Anon, civilizations like Star Trek's or Halo's are positively primative compared to a civilization that can pull of shit like Dyson spheres.
A level 2 civilization would consider billions of dead a minor annoyance.

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>>388262642
fuck

>borealis superexplosion was as insignificant to the combine, like blowing out a matchhead
>Freeman couldnt even comprehend the things he saw
I dont think any of the factions mentioned above coud defeat the entirety of the combine.

>>388265065
the covenant couldn't, but forerunners/flood would be a fair match

The Precursors from Halo are unironically the most overpowered faction in all of vidya

>have existed before the big bang, implied to have survived multiple big bangs and crunches
>exist outside of normal reality
>their technology is as advanced to the forerunners as forerunner technology (and the forerunners themselves could pretty body the entire 40k universe) is to modern day humanity
>said technology is based on the energy of thoughts and consciousness and could warp reality with it
>they had weapons that were basically solar system sized garrotes that could reconfigure themselves and just cut across interstellar space as giant intstellar swords, whips, and spears
>could cause people to go mad or make them go to their side just by talking to them
>are basically lovecraftian eldritch abominations in general

>>388265191
The Outsiders and Ancients >>388264605 are type V and IV on the Kardashev scale respectively. The Combine wouldn't stand a chance.

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>>388260923

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Could the Combine take the Culture?

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*gridfires ur dyson sphere*

nothing personnel, kidds

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>>388262642
end my life pls

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>>388260923
Los Muertos

>>388265376
FACTION

>>388265192
I think you should read up on the Karashev scale, because a race of parasites/race capable of dying out to said race of parasites is no where near the match of a scale 2.

A scale 2 is probably the highest a civilization can realistically get in our universe. 3 is just silly (an entire galaxy of hundreds of billions of stars Dysoned up) and 4 would be an entire universe, which is impossible.

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>>388265276
>Get murdered by the forerunners

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>>388260923
I believe almost any faction in starcraft is capable.

>>388265003
I'd say that's highly unlikely.
Building a Dyson sphere, i.e. a construct measuring a hundred million miles in diameter or so, is something so ridiculously far beyond the ME universe it's not even funny

>>388265448
I loved the Culture series. It's a shame Banks died so young, his plans for further books sounded interesting.

>>388265623
This.

Even with Biotics, Nothing in ME reaches the sheer impossibility of a dyson sphere.

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>>388262642

>>388265276

>all this, still gets beat by the forrunners and turns into the flood

>>388265623
The geth were building a Dyson sphere until quarians blew it up. And Reapers are far more advanced than them.

>>388265369
I mean obviously we dont really have alot of information about the combine, since we mostly just saw them on earth, but arent the combine atleast a Type IV civilization?

>>388265448
*sublimes*
nuthin personell dimensionlet

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>>388260923
On a One vs One?
The only Question is how long.

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>>388262642

>>388260923
The covenant, flood, maybe unsc, the reapers, the zerg, locust horde possibly

>>388265623
There's literally a Dyson Sphere in Mass Effect

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dunno

>>388265526
I dunno, if a race is capable of making a factory that can quickly produce weapons capable of killing all life in a galaxy, I'd say it can match a scale 2.
That said there's not much to go off of on what the Combine's exact reach is. They could potentially have millions of galaxies dysoned up, just the one star, or anywhere in between.

>>388265924
Alright I've missed it, where?

>>388265905
>Locust

They can't even achieve space flight

>>388265859
No.

Imperium can barely beat a faction that'son their way out.

>>388265575
No, not even close really. I actually like SC (1) more than HL, but one of appeals is that it's pretty grounded, at least before 2. It's Xeonomorphs versus space rednecks in shitty powered armours vs. actually advanced guys (who get rekt by Xenomorphs).

>>388260923
Vivec and the plot devices(chim/c0da)

I had literally never heard of Dyson Spheres before today. Am I really sheltered or are they an uncommon concept?

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>>388260923
Doomguy could thrive in the Warhammer 40k universe.

The combine are pansies.

There is a game called Torment Tides of Numenera. It takes place in the Numenera rpg line and is canon with the setting considering it got its own book. In the past of the setting there was a civilization that made a megastructure so vast a Dyson sphere a tiny dot on it and it's capable of self repairing itself. They could do it as they have mastered alternate dimension travel as well. Also regular teleports.

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THE E.D.F. DEPLOYS

>>388266138
sheltered

>>388266138
you're pretty sheltered with sci-fi concepts

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>>388262642
woah...

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The Endless perhaps? They had Dust - which is basically motherfucking magic.

>>388266138
you are really really sheltered
they've featured in plenty of media

>>388260923
The borg

>>388265541
>>388265718
The books said that the thought that their creations would betray them was so beyond their compression and they didn't know malice, that they stood buy as they were destroyed watching in awe

>>388266138
Depends what kind of media/literature you expose yourself to

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>>388262642

>>388265987
Geth Homeworld, beyond the Perseus Veil. It's not in-game but it's established in the lore that the Geth are building one.

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>>388262642
>>388264169

>>388266138
to be fair they aren't that common in videogames, if that's your only exposure to sci-fi

>>388262642
woah

>>388266194
>dead in less than 7 hours

>>388266004
Yes. Because it is under constant warfare with a dozen of other factions. On a One vs. One. No, Chaos, Eldar, Tyranids, Orks, Necrons, Tau etc. Just One vs. One. the Imperium would smash the combine.

>>388260923
Any of the Supreme Commander factions

Why don't they just stick a black hole in the middle of the dyson sphere

>>388263559
You don't understand the scale. Yes, it's incredibly huge, but so is their population. To be able to build one, they'd need massive construction crews. A civilization that scale could have it done in a decade or so.

>>388260923
Doomguy

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Forerunners managed to kill all life within a galaxy, could it destroy the combine once fired?

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>>388262642

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>>388266353
No.

Sorry, Imperium cannot beat Nids, Chaos, or Necrons on their own. Eldar? Maybe. Tau? Sure. Orks? Possibly. But the Imperium definitely cannot beat Chaos.

>>388266209
>>388266228
>>388266249
>>388266274
>>388266308

Now I know, thanks. Better late than never, right?

The Dai Gurren brigade

>>388266523
no
you failed everyone

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>>388263592
Source of image please
Also, my vote goes for the UEF

>>388262642
DEEPEST FUCKING LORE CONFIRMED

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>>388266414
>the portal gun has a mini black hole inside it
>could be developed more into a real black hole
>just bomb the dyson sphere

>>388266495
What's that gif from again? I recognize it but I forgot the name.

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>>388266580
Sorry.

>>388266495
Yes. But lets say, the Imperium gets sucked in a another galaxy, together with the combine, but both factions have all the things they need to function. That would be a One vs. One. Which was my point the entire time. Than the Imperium would purge the fuck out of them.

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>>388266671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_MSFkZHNi4

>>388266141
>the babel tower builds as you progress
I never knew that, and I've played through Doom 1 repeatedly over the last decade.

>>388263648
A one man faction

Anybody here remember that sci-fi series with the bioengineering supebeings that turned a planet of human resistance into stitched tiles of flesh that lived in horrible agony for eternity?

>>388266080
Nerazim with a bunch of skilled void dudes and a little backup fleet can basically keep killing everything and there's little things that can stop them. And they can manipulate time of all things.
Seems like a pretty one sided battle to me. But then again, I just barely know anything about Combine, but as far as I know there's nothing impressive in their list of achievements.

>>388266671
double king

>>388266671
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_MSFkZHNi4

>>388266667
but
>muh ex writer's fanfic

>>388266495
Nobody can beat Chaos, it's literally an endless spawn point that ignores any physical limitation. We don't even know if the 4 chaos gods are actual gods or just some the collective psychic energies of a galaxy with millions of them scattered throughout their own universe,

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>>388262642
oh shit

>>388260923
The combine are written as vague as possible.

>Multidimensional
Okay, so they can cross dimensions.
>Made up of AI controlled Synthetics and enslaves organics that get thrashed by a man shooting trash at them.

How do we really measure their capability?

>>388265526
Those parasites can warp reality when they get strong enough

And the ones who lost to them had weapons capable of killing all life in a galaxy

>>388266787
they have a dyson sphere

>>388266775
Chaos dies when all life dies. It'll starve out.

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>>388266775
Chaos is literally the latter. In order for Chaos as a concept to be killed, the galaxy would have to be void of all life for the gods to starve out. Even living empowers and feeds them.

>>388266414
the only technology to make black holes is in aperture science (>>388266667) and nobody knows about it or can get to it.

>>388266448
>massive construction crews
that doesn't necessarily mean that their population is bigger than ours
they could've used enslaved aliens and robots to build their shit

>>388266615
I think the Seraphim with a full functional rift gate would have a better shot at it, though really any of the factions would do pretty well
>Reclaim all the Combine units and construct unstoppable armies of building sized tanks and nuclear artillery

>>388266849
>Muh dyson sphere.
Not much good it does them going against a dude with a fucking crowbar.

>>388266787
All this time you were fighting some small slave garrison

>>388266975
Slaves count as population. Humanity was assimilated and added to their own.

>>388266732
>>388266752
>>388266756
thanks m8s

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Possibly the cast of Guilty Gear or Blazblue.
More likely Guilty Gear though.
The plot of the GG series mostly revolves around a man named Sol who is hundreds of years old fighting a war against his god powered wife and her army of super powered beings that nearly wiped out all of humanity after humanity started using magic.
Sol himself also has godly power and intelligence being strong enough to easily surpass nuclear weapon levels when he isn't holding back. Some of the other characters in the series have powers such as time control, space control, soul manipulation, absolute immortality and others.
The arch nemesis of Sol is a man who was his best friend hundreds of years ago who directly controls power from the informational source of the entire universe called "The Backyard".
https://youtu.be/ciYFNHiqlOo?t=23m28s

>>388267023
that's because the people they sent after him were their equivalent of rats

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The forerunners in halo built a Dyson sphere 1 AU in radius

Among many other ridiculously massive structures

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>>388260923

>>388265276
>have existed before the big bang, implied to have survived multiple big bangs and crunches
>exist outside of normal reality
Never heard this one. Explain more

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>>388262642
Holy Fuck you're right

>>388267049
by that logic then I guess horses and other animals that were used by man should be added to the population

No.

>>388266667
>Aperture science finally beats black mesa

>>388266495
They tried to beat the Tau and got their shit kicked in Damocles. Damocles is now the IoM's Vietnam.

>>388266849
Well to be fair it doesn't really say that much about their military tech and prowess.

The Necrons from WH40K don't have one and I'm really sure they would bitchslap the Combine.

>>388267183
Nigger, why are you here? That's a false equivalence and you know it.

>>388266667
also aperture continues in the perpetual testing initiative, spanning infinite dimensions run by infinite cave johnsons. If they had resources they could rival the combine

>>388267213
They got their shit kicked in because like the other anon mentioned, they're fighitng wars everywhere. Even then it wasn't a total loss. They were just too fucking hard to remove at the time, and Imperium had to gear up for Nids. So they cut their losses and went 'Sure we'll fuck off have fun with the bugs about to bite you in the ass.'.

>>388267117
one aeiou in radius

>>388265003
The Combine are a multidimensional empire.
The Reapers spend most of their time sleeping while preying on a single galaxy.

>>388267324
JOHN MADDEN JOHN MADDEN

>>388266849
So, they a very powerful power source. What does that say about their army and combat capability though?

Too many basic questions with no answers to challenge OP's question.

What is a dyson sphere to the star craft factions? Any of the Warhammer factions? Any of the EVE factions?

>>388267108
Which leads us back to the point that we have no real demonstration of their military prowess besides the 8 hour war, which almost any faction in this thread could reasonably pull off, and
>Muh dyson sphere.

>>388264801
let's not have the combine assimilate this and pretend they did

>>388267393
John Madden could defeat the combine

>>388267393
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>388266849
What does that mean? What does it do?

>>388267403
You don't understand the sheer amount of industry and technological progress that goes into the creation of a dyson sphere.
If they can make one they can basically do anything.

So do we ever actually see the combine themselves?

Or do we just see the various species from xen and then the assimilated humanity acting as their mercenaries or whatever

>>388267083
No anime bullshit or superpowers.

Otherwise I say the Z- Fighters could easily wipe the combine by sheer individual strength.

>>388263392
Humanity has the tech to build moonbases right now.

Do you see any bases on the moon, faggot?

>>388267584
(((they))) don't want us to see them.

>>388267535
Why didn't they just dyson every other star in their universe instead of being dicks to other universes?

>>388266667
since the ending of Portal 2 and Episode 3 could be considered to take place around the same time (since we're not sure if Gordon ended up in the distant future or just present) half life 3 could have been about Chell meeting the resitance and leading them to the old aperture labs where she shows them a portal gun. They would take it and look into it's tech, managing to develop a black hole grenade that would allow them to battle the sphere and use the Perpetual testing system to travel to other multiverses and weaken their forces.
Jesus Half Life 3 has so much potential now, or had

>>388267646
Because they can

>>388267403
Well the dyson sphere tech is only a very small part of it despite how much shit people are talking about it.
The combine are multidimensional just that fact alone makes them difficult to fight on any scale that isn't multidimensional. They simply ignore physics.

>>388260923
Komato. If they're lucky.

>>388267393
CAN I ORDER A PIZZA?

>>388267503
Surround a star with a sphere
depending on how big it is, it can be used for power, or if its circumference is say, that of earth's orbit, living space.
In other words it makes earth and everything on it completely inconsequential to a civilization of that scale.
It's like comparing an ant to an elephant

>>388267646
I'm sure they did, and are expanding because they literally want to control the galaxy. To fuel an empire of that size with production and technology to be able to buid more than one Dyson Sphere (It was implied this wasn't their only one and it seems obvious they have more than 1)

>>388267646
Almost all the resources from earth can be obtained much easier and in much larger quantities elsewhere in space too

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>>388262642

>>388266775
The Necrons can beat Chaos

>>388267238
Actually the Necrons do. Or rather they did. One of the C'Tan, the Outsider was literally sheltering inside a Dyson Sphere.

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>>388262642

>>388266303
Were. Now that they're INDIVIDUALS they have no need for one

>>388267789
NO-- BECAUSE YOU ARE JOHN MADDEN

>>388267887
Doesn't make much sense, you can go to the nearest star with everything needed to start the production of a new one and locally source materials.
And if you don't have planets then you can use Star Lifting to extract material directly out of the star itself (it's a real thing, look it up)

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>>388262642

>>388267503
imagine you covered the entire solar system in solar panels, including empty space

the halo from halo might seem big, but a dyson sphere at earth distance would be 31 billion times more surfaceous

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>>388260923

>>388267901
Um, no retard. When you literally have a portal to earth, no. Kill yourself, you stupid fucking retard. You don't have the right to make me this angry with your ignorance.

>>388260923
No the real question is, could any alliance in the whole of vidya touch, let alone defeat Madara Uchiha?

Keep in mind I’m talking about Rinne Tensei Madara Uchiha with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, the Rinnegan, a perfect Susano’o and the ability to control the juubi and the Gedou Mazou.

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>>388266271
>tfw to intelligent too defend yourself

>>388268415
What the fuck did you just say?

>>388268415
post it faggot

>>388267993
Dyson spheres are great shows for tier 2 civilizations, but aren't really that cool for tiers 3 and 4. Necrons are tier 3.

>>388267393
MAMA MIA

>>388268415
kek

>>388260923
covenant

>>388268352
That's not what a Dyson Sphere is. It's not the entire empty vacuum of a solar system, it's just the diameter of a solar system's star.

>>388263559
They could have had 10000's of years building dyson spheres

>>388266271
>The books said
And there's the problem. The books ruin everything

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>>388260923
the only way

>>388266271
>compression
>buy

>>388268524
PAPA PIA

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>>388260923
>We are the Ur-Quan Kohr-Ah.
>We cleanse our destiny.
>You will soon die.
>Make whatever rituals are necessary for your species.

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>>388262642

>>388268654
BABY GOT THE DAIOHRREEEEAAAAAAA

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>>388266138
They're pretty common

>>388266365
Wouldn't stand a chance. All it takes is for the Combine to destroy the quantum gate network and all ACUs are grounded - although things could get interesting if SupCom factions got a hold of relatively cheap Combine teleportation.

>>388268859
>Number 9
checked

>>388262642
I don't have any reaction image for how mindblown i am right now

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>>388262642
goddamn

>>388268352
There is a Dyson sphere that large in halo though. Halo's themselves are actually some of the smaller forerunner structures.

>>388268415
You're talking about Edo Tensei Madara Uchiha?

>>388266615
anon /tg/ drawfag afaik

>>388268549
that's what I meant, considering solar panels imply that only a surface is functioning

fun fact: if the dyson sphere was the size of earth, a halo rolled flat would be approximately 16 000 square meters, which is half the size of the lincoln memorial pool in washington DC

that's the sort of scale gordon freeman is dealing with

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>>388260923
post-singularity 4chan and "trained by video games": the faction

>>388266896
Blanks have no presence within the Warp.

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At maximum strength, The Wonderful 101 probably could

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>>388268415

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>>388260923

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>>388264169
>>388264574

>>388269251
BUENOS DIAS GMAN

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>>388268491
Civilisation tiers refers to the amount of energy they harness. Type 1 is a whole planet's worth of energy. Humanity is not even this. Type 2 is a whole star. Dyson sphere territory. It's technically a higher tier than a civilisation that has hundreds of earth like plants under it's control. A tier 2 civilisation has enough power to sterilise every planet in the galaxy by redirecting the power of its star into a laser beam. Tier 3 is a whole galaxy. Every star is dysoned. Tier 4 is the whole universe.

Nothing in 40k surpasses even a tier 2 civilisation. Everyone still lives on planets and they barely use all the energy on those planets, too. The necrons are advanced, and have indeed "finished science", but they aren't tier 2 until they have themselves a dyson sphere.

>>388266238
That's nice

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>>388266138
you're not the only one

>>388268415
>>388268474

And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu.
I’m talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Izanagi and Izanami), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten’in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using the Infinite Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu, Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano’o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju’s DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu.

>>388269378
>The necrons are advanced, and have indeed "finished science", but they aren't tier 2 until they have themselves a dyson sphere.
They have some magic thingy that makes starts go "pof"

>>388269508
kek

>>388267881
>It's like comparing an ant to an elephant
>ant
STOP WITH THE FUCKING ANT ANALOGIES

>>388262642

No.

A Dyson sphere completely surrounds a star. This dumb meme can fuck off.

Now hold up, I thought that the Combine were masters of multiple entire universes, limited only by their imprecise Teleportation technology, and that was their reason for keeping humanity partially intact, was I wrong?

>>388269679
Yeah these analogies are making me feel like an ant in a swimming pool

>>388269679
K.
Then is like a big hamburger, but the buns are the size of Earth and the patty the size of a ant

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>>388269251
That moment you realize scale can be anything in other dimensions as the Combine Dyson sphere in all of it's vastness and majesty is run over by some inter-dimensional cartoon-like car going beep beep.

>>388269724
finally someone posted this

>>388269724
>what are Dyson swarms?
>what are Shkadov thrusters?
>what are Nycoll-Dyson beams?

>>388265065
>>388265526

> muh poorly defined scale

Literally all that scale measures is the ability to harness energy. It doesn't discuss anything else.

Marathon's Jjaro should be able to deal with the Combine, a few dozen trih xeem would deal with any Dyson spheres along with their stars. In a worst case scenario where there's W'rkncacnter trapped in one of the stars, they could at least blackmail the Combine with ending the Universe.
The Pthor might stand a chance too if they can deliver all the trih xeem (save for accidentally destroying the universe by unleashing W'rkncacnter again).

>>388269563
no such thing exists
Naturo > Combine confirmed

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>>388262642
WHAT THE FUCK

>>388269965
admit it, you just made all of those names up on the spot

>>388269771
They kept us alive because Breen was persuasive enough to keep us from being exterminated. Also, the Combine can teleport from universe to universe with no trouble. However, they can't efficiently teleport from one place in a universe to another one within that same universe. That's what we humans found out how to do and that's why they are interested in our technology.

>>388270006
I wish, Marathon's lore is a glorious mindfuck.

>>388269904

All still surround a star on all sides, even if it isn't a total shell. There isn't some massive gap half the diameter of the sun.

>>388269563
Shut the fuck up lol

>>388270020
Then how is even a question of they have multiple Dyson Spheres/Grids, or if anyone can beat them?

>>388270102
Bungie makes such great lore

>>388270020
So why did they just completely fuck up humanity instead of forcing humanity to continue researching teleportation technology?

>>388270131
>There isn't some massive gap half the diameter of the sun.
Yeah, unlike YOUR MUM'S PUSSY

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>Dyson spheres take their name after the physicist Freeman John Dyson
>Freeman John
holy fuck I think we're onto something big here

>>388270253
ayyyyyyyyyyyy

>>388270180
Yup. Shame Destiny's lore is so disconnected from the actual game

>>388270296
Its old news Gordon was named after this guy

>>388270220
>instead of forcing humanity to continue researching teleportation technology
They kind of did that. Mossman was monitoring Eli's teleportation work so she could build one for the Combine.

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>>388269251
Thank you for OC, anon.

>>388265065
>>388265526
That scale is completely useless at determining anything. Humanity could build a Dyson Swarm with currently existing technology and materials, given enough time to do it. Just harnessing the entire power output of a star itself does not mean anything in regards to the kind of technology level that you have, the Karashev scale is useless for that reason.

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>>388269794
>food analogies

>>388270102
Another one for the backlog it seems.
I'm going to be 80 by the time i finish

Imperium of man should hold them off but not be able to kill them to due dimensions.

Forerunners built dyson spheres like they were nothing.

Total Annihilation factions like the Core and Arm depleted the entire galaxy of materials and had tiny skirmishes that decimated continents and had a device that literally reset the entire galaxy.

Can't think of anything else

>>388270356
And now they're not doing lore anymore the second game

>>388270575
Yeah they are, it's being incorporated into an in-game menu now

>>388270476
>Just harnessing the entire power output of a star itself does not mean anything in regards to the kind of technology level that you have,
It means you have the resources, the time, the knowledge and the manpower to take on such a mammoth of a project and succeed.

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>>388262642

Precursors from Halo. Like somebody previously said they had weapons the size of solar systems. Which defied physics and basically acted like giant swords

>>388270681
is it really? I just heard they weren't doing grimoire anymore.

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>>388270474

>saving a .png as a .jpg

>>388270812
Maybe I'm mistaken, but a leaked menu a while back had a grimoire tab on it and they've gone on record saying they wanted that sort of thing more readily available to players.

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>>388260923
The Eggman Empire if left to its own devices
>Unleashes a new god of Destruction every other week
>Limitless supply of robots powered only by animals, does not matter what animal
>Can capture and roboticize captured prisoners making them stronger than they were before
>Power of Chaos Emeralds and Master Emerald
>Machine that blows up half a moon with just one hardly fully powered blast
>Shits out moon sized space stations constantly
>Can control time and space
>Can travel to different dimensions
Pretty even match up considering all the Gods and shit Eggman has used to further his goals

>>388260923
I think it would've been cool for Gordon to just go at defeating the Combine solo, like get into the Dyson Sphere are start fucking shit up.

>>388264987
I wish my chub could be as cute as a cats. Like, this nigga can't even fucking walk on land and he's fucking adorable.

>no game where you can start out in the stone age and eventually progress further and further until you become a level 5 civilization
fug

>>388270356
>>388270575
>>388270681
>>388270981
>>388270981
I wonder if the guardians would stand a chance. They've killed multiple space gods.

>>388270997
It's both great and depressing that the real story wasn't that hacky.

>>388270686
>resources
Irrelevant, every solar system is going to have more than enough resources available for it.
>the time
Irrelevant, outside of freak extinction events everyone is going to have plenty of time.
>manpower
Irrelevant, the entire process can be automated at our technology level.

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>>388271086
>spore will never be good
Why does it have to be like this

>>388271136
The combine aren't darkness so I guess they just could just keep respawning

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>>388270686
Like the other anon said, right now humanity could feasibly theorize a way to construct a dyson sphere, our only problem is resources, time and manpower.
When you are talking about possibly massively powerful races with advanced technology you should think about FTL travel, molecular modification devices to effortlessly transmute matter into other useful substances, essentially means to be immortal, weapons that can eradicate life but leave resources untouched such as nanomachine clouds or better etc.

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>>388262642
Son of a bitch

>>388271220
even though it could have been so much better it still could have been so much worse
divorced from the hype and price it's still a neat little game

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Who would win Combine vs Madara and Sasuke Uchiha

Both the edgelords have their top donut jutsus, a perfect sales jew, and the riki ricardo abilities

>>388271215
I don't feel like Gordon would just give up that easily. It sounds pretty shitty, but he could find a way to infiltrate the Sphere, find the control room and start to overload the core while keeping Overwatch soldiers from stopping to try and bring everything back under control. Then he'd die in the mass explosion.

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>>388270681
>>388270812
>>388270981
They are doing away with the Grimoire system as it was in the original game. Instead of cards that you earn from doing stuff in game everything will be conveyed through side missions, metroid prime style scannable stuff you discover, and item descriptions.

>>388260923
Star Trek Online has villains who can build Dyson spheres and have portal technology, so them.

>>388270997
gordon could destroy anything within a 100 meter radius while going across the thing at the speed of sound and it would at most lower the efficiency of the thing by a billionth of a percent as they repaired everything in his wake

>>388271136
They've destroyed entire pocket realities where the rules were stacked against them and existence itself attacked them on a molecular level or tried to scrub them from reality and unmake the mere suggestion of their existence. Not to mention they literally cannot die unless you find a way to kill or eat their ghost.

>>388270220
Well, this is speculation, but when IRL scientists (like dr. Michio Kaku) are theorizing about Dyson Spheres, Civilization Scales and all that stuff, they are, for the most part, talking about robots. Let me explain:

>civilization X sends out unmanned vessel into space
>vessel automatically finds and harvests needed sources, such as fuel and metal in celestial bodies
>vessel uses said materials to survive and propagate itself, constantly building machines that will, in their turn, build more machines
>machines harvest the energy of star(s) by building Dyson Spheres and send them back to their planet
>as they reproduce, the machines expand, explore and slowly conquer whole solar systems

Chances are the "Combine" on Earth is nothing more than a VERY smart and VERY advanced piece of self-evolving "race" of machines, send out by an even more advanced race, which probably has no idea these machines are even on Earth. They don't care as long as the machines do their work, no matter how much sentient they get along the way.
That being said, they are still cold, ruthless machines. They care about efficiency, not creative potential. Waiting for humans to perfect a technology is a bit too counter-productive for them. It's high-risk, low-reward, if you will. So they just keep tabs on the humans as they stay in their solar system and planet, harvesting resources, and to make sure the human race won't ever go after them, they seize their means of reproduction so they will simply die off without any effort in a few years. If the natives perfect their teleportation technology while they are here, fine by them, they will take it, but otherwise they are not looking to make friends and whatnot. It's all about being efficient.

>>388271405
>Then he'd die in the mass explosion.
gman would pull him out like the end of hl1 and hl2.

>>388271405
Sorry, but yes, that is shitty. Half Life is supposed to subvert shit like that.

>>388265526
The Forerunners have built artificial worlds the size of Earth's orbit powered by artificial suns then shoved them into pocket dimensions.

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>>388262642
OH FUCK

>>388266271
Comprehension*
But this sounds pretty cool. Pretty similar to the the semi trope of sterile, very matter of fact aliens invading and being awed by our pure savagery, our dedication to the art of large scale slaughter, our obsession with death, our revelry in killing the slightly different; let alone banding together to kill other worlders.
Breeding like vengeful roaches in the darkest corners of despair and fashioning weapons from garbage and unfiltered rage. And they decide it isn't worth it.

>>388266742
That sounds neat, I wanna know what that is too

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>>388269724

Anon, you're not getting the sun in this image is representative, not literal. The Combine symbol is not literally showing the outline of the Dyson Sphere because, as you said, the Dyson Sphere would be completely surrounding the star. Rather, the symbol represents how even the stars themselves are not safe from exploitation by the Combine.

That's the secret, that's the thing. The sun is within a wrench or vise, squeezed for its power and resources just like everything else in the Universe.

>>388267393
DA DA DA DA
DA DA DA

>>388268701
The only reason why they're powerful is because they discover a "trophy" ship, which end up getting destroy by primitive means. Once that ship got destroy, they got wiped out by the crystal race.

>>388269724
you're thinking of a dyson shell

>>388271650
Alltomorrows?

>>388271216
How about industrial capacity, population density and economies of scale that makes all of the world look like a kid that makes walls out of rocks?

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>>388262642
nani the fuck

>>388271525
>Chances are the "Combine" on Earth is nothing more than a VERY smart and VERY advanced piece of self-evolving "race" of machines, send out by an even more advanced race, which probably has no idea these machines are even on Earth.
The Combine forces on Earth are even less than that, they are just using humans. They don't care enough to send actual troops, not even a mall cop.

>>388271771
To be fair, that is a revision/update that came to the definition later, unless I'm mistaken.

>>388271560
I know, it's just cool to imagine tho.

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>>388262642

>>388265065

You guys know we only get to see ONE Dyson Sphere, right? The Combine might have hundreds of these things throughout their galaxy, they could very well be a Type III or even Type IV civilization, especially considering they've heavily invested in exploiting entire dimensions.

>>388271875
My point exactly. They are sentient, advanced machines that know how to tweak DNA.

>>388265509
fine
Meta Knight's Corps then

>>388269378
But that's wrong.

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>>388265526
>Humans will go extinct with a whimper before we can conquer the multiverse

>>388271286
I tier 2 civilisation has the ability to fund that sort of stuff like it's nothing. The main thing to remember is that these spheres have huge populations. Just by being so big, they have shitloads of scientists and researchers.

>>388260923
Earth Federation because they have the Gundam, or maybe Zeon because they could conduct mass colony drops on the Dyson Sphere.

>>388272121
Good. Chances are the universe is full of spacejews and starniggers.

>>388271754
Thi, Orz have much more surprising *toys*

>>388272216
But then they'll go ungassed

>>388271974
If they were type 3, earth would already be destroyed just from how fast the resources would be drained.

>>388271875
Weren't there two Combine Advisors?

>>388271824
>Alltomorrows
YES
this is the one, I've been trying to find it for an hour! Thanks so much

Anyways I'm pretty sure the Qu could defeat the combine

>>388266194
>A2 gasblock with mlock foregrip
Japs don't know shit about guns and still manage to be based. Bout to get these games now, looks like my raifu.

>>388272121
Why would you want to do that? Besides, the chances of us being the strongest thing in the multiverse are astronomically low. There must be other species whose babies can intellectually kick the ass of the most brilliant human being in history.

>>388271875
>>388271974
That's what really doesn't add up about Half Life.
Like why would a civilization THAT advanced give a single fuck about a pissant planet like Earth? It also wouldn't even make sense that they don't have teleportation technology.

>>388271825
All of that would be meaningless if the people who built it didn't have the technology to fight off a race who didn't have a Dyson Swarm, but had more advanced warships and so just rolled through and slaughtered them all.

>>388272369
>Like why would a civilization THAT advanced give a single fuck about a pissant planet like Earth?

It's 100% because we've got teleportation technology that can be used within a Universe, unlike the tunneling style the Combine have perfected.

It's also significantly miniaturized compared to what the Combine use; they require massive Dark Energy Reactors to power their gateways, while an Aperture Science Portal Gun requires a potato.

So if you had the choice to build 1 AU radius ringworld or a 1AU radius Dyson Sphere, which would you choose? Assume unlimited resources and time.

>>388272369
They have warp tech that can go from universe to universe but its inter dimensional travel that they couldn't do, and thats what the humans achieved on earth, and they came there to get it.

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What about the Tenno/Grineer/Corpus/Orokin/Infested/Corrupted?

Surely the space-god-children that pilot overpowered gundam merchandise would have a chance.

>>388272369
Anon, is explicit say in the games that they have teleportation technology, you even see one of their machines in Nova Prospect.
Is just that is shit compared to human tech.

Could the Dyson Sphere be destroyed?

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>>388272121
There way too many infighting within the race to allow us to advance. For fuck sake, we got a team of scientists that manage to land a probe on a METEOR, which is important if we want to start mining them, but because of some feminist bullshit, this kind of shit will be held back for years because one of bitch's hurt feeling.

>>388272369
Resources. You take the water, mine the ores, and even use the people as biomaterial for grander machines. When the planet's been used for all that it's worth, you move on to the next one.

>>388272369
The Combine DO have teleportation technology, but it's a one-way lane. They likely have to typically take over a planet and then spend some time establishing a return-teleport back.

It's just that humanity managed to basically discover, with external aid due to the mysterious benefactors around G-Man and the sheer insanity of Cave Johnson, a super-efficient method of teleportation that basically renders what the Combine's teleports can do as moot in comparison.

>>388264004
>SUPER ALIEN FACTION THAT EXPLOITS DANGEROUS CREATURES
>DANGEROUS CREATURE THAT INFESTS HOSTS
>......
>DELICIOUS CANDY

>>388272514
dyson sphere, you can make a comfy habitable zone in the equatorial region and have a ringworld that way

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>Just realized that Grigori has light shining on him for his first and second arrival

>>388272369
>Like why would a civilization THAT advanced give a single fuck about a pissant planet like Earth?
How many breads have you eaten in your life?

>>388272523
Nah. Those factions are all within 1 galaxy if I remember correctly and are primitive compared to the Combine.

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>>388272216
And they rely on the biggest gas ovens in existence for survival. It's irony just begging to happen.

>>388272514
Dyson Spheres are basically Ringworld+.

>>388272325
The larvae-looking things?
Well, who says they are anything more than just a genetic product of the machines? Maybe the machines deemed "meat"-based lifeforms to be somehow more efficient or durable than plain old robots. After all, they do create their war machines (Striders, Hunters, etc) out of flesh or flesh-like material.
There is no evidence saying the Advisors are the true form of the Combine race.

>>388267151

>two old gods have already been slain by Azeroth "adventurers".

Sorry anon they aren't that powerful.

>>388272514
Dyson sphere. More habitable area.
Also is more stable (long story short, if the sphere goes "off center" it's no big deal, the ring instead crashes into the star)

>>388267213

Don't forget they skull fucked Aun'va with rape assassins though ;)

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>>388262642

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>>388260923

Xenomorphs could take em out.

>>388272683
>There is no evidence saying the Advisors are the true form of the Combine race

I doubt there even is a true form anymore. The Combine is and should be more complicated than a mere hierarchy of rulers and their client races. The Combine is more than likely an organism unto itself.

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*lifewipes ur galaxy*

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TTGL had a video game, right? A real shitty DS one, but it still counts. Dyson Spheres are child's play when you can literally punch shit so hard it gets sent to the "end of spacetime" (whatever that means).

Wait a minute what would happen if the Combine gained access to Spiral Power?

>>388272683
Theydefinitely aren't the true form, read the @breenslug account to get an idea what they're about. it was made by laidlaw when he was still working at valve

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>>388272593
Wait, are you saying the Combine are...No, it can't be!

>>388272793
Are we assuming the deleted scene from Alien, where the worker is able to slowly convert people into eggs in the absence of a queen, canon? If so, then you cold take the slow burn approach of launching some eggs into a slum area of the sphere and letting the colony build up gradually and thus hopefully avoid detection.

>>388272793
fuck no

>>388272794
I agree.

>>388272858
I actually found out about the account just today. I should start reading.