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>John Romero is shilling Dusk What went so fucking wrong?

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>John Romero is shilling Dusk

What went so fucking wrong?
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dude works at a gas station, gotta make ends meet
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>>388256408
Looks comfy. I hope he is happy now, playing better Doom or Quake levels than his owns and don't developing fucking Blackroom.
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dusk is fun
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> $20

Are they fucking serious?
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>>388257778
>$20 is suddenly too expensive
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>>388257896
no indie game should be more than 10 bucks especially ones with poor graphics like dusk
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>>388257896
For a modded Quake, yes, it is.
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>>388257896
Dusk would be expensive even if it was free. I mean, I want my time playing Dusk back
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>>388258035
actually it's Redneck Rampage in Unity
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>>388255893
>following
>666
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>>388257991
> poor graphics
its just retro art style nothing wrong here
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>>388257896
A cheap piece of shit is still a piece of shit.
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>>388257991
>>388258035
It's literally not modded Quake, so there goes that retarded statement. And stop creating asinine restrictions to things for the sole purpose to justify not buying something. If you don't want simply say so.
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>>388258151
>Arcane dimensions.jpg

So, being lazy is retro art style? Fuck you, Quake or Blood had way better visuals
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because it's fun
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> Retro Fast Old School FPS from 90s

No thanks.
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>>388258603
but this time it isn't bullshit

levels could stand to be longer, more complex, and harder though
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>>388258603
>Roguelite FPS made by people who don't know what they're doing

Versus

>Retro-styled FPS made by one of the most influential FPS developers of all time
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>>388258603
Dusk actually have level design, episodic levels, and everything is hand placed, from the enemies to the items. As well as key and secret hunting. It's nothing like Strafe.
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Why do you guys hate on Dusk?
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>>388258717
>made by one of the most influential FPS developers of all time

??? I thought dusk was 4 newbie developers
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> Literally who indie game

Shilling is strong here.
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>>388258808
Oh, Dusk isn't the FPS project Romero is working on? I forgot the name of what he was making, so I figured that this thread was about that.
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>>388258706
oh wow thats terrible
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>>388258934
nah, Romero and Adrian Carmack* fucked off and never released a demo

*no relation
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>>388258603
I agree. Fuck that gay shit when Halo and CoD are so much more fun and have better graphics
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>>388258801
Because /v/ hate every video game.
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>>388258934
You mean Blackroom, AKA never ever

>>388258801
It's a mediocre piece of shit.

Now post upcoming retro-FPS
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>>388259284
Tell me how it's mediocre.
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>>388255893
why are they trying so hard to make this game fuckin appalling
they know retro is about reaching the best possible results under limitations, not about lol it's ugly bc its old amirite xdddd..... right?
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>>388259280
CoD 1 was indeed way more fun than this shit.
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>>388259331
I don't have to answer shills
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>>388258801

Because they haven't played it.
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>>388258268
but you didn't imply it was shit in the first place
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>>388259747
Ahhh, so you're just shitposting. Epic. Welcome to /v/, Redditor. Le /v/ is for shitposting XD. Right on.
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>>388258381

Arcane Dimensions was someone specifically taking the Quake engine and pushing it to its limits. Original Quake levels look nowhere near as good or complex, so your argument is invalid.
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>>388259747

>I don't have an answer

Fixed that for you, friendo.
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>>388259280
the sad thing is so far this looks to be an accurate statement
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>>388259906
>being this ass flustered about being ignored
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>>388260246
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>>388259906
> if it's shitposting, it's from leddit

This meme is funny. There are more intelligent threads on leddit than you will never find here.
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>>388260443
its kinda sad but true. specially when it comes to gore threads. if theres anything new youll notice that it coincides with it showing up on watchpeopledie, and even they title things repost if its reposts
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>>388255893
it's a good game you humongous faggot.
the only problem is that it needs the entire fucking thing released, not an episode at a time. took like an hour to beat the entire fucking game, total disappointment. gonna be sure to pirate the rest of it in 5 years when it finally comes out.
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>>388258801
pretending to be a 'retro fps connaisseur' makes people feel superior to others.
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>>388258939
it only looks terrible because polygon is playing it.
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>>388260910
It doesn't release until Halloween, they only gave out Ep1 early for preorders because it was done and people were begging to be able to play it, especially after they let some youtubers get their hands on it. It was a (good) PR move
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>>388259449
it's being programmed by one dev who prioritises movement, level design and mechanics over graphics.
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>>388261132
I'm not that bad anon. a-am I?
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>>388261221
an even better pr move would be to release the god damn game and make an extra episode for halloween
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>>388260443
reddit is nothing more than an echo chamber where wannabe comedians compete in a pissing match to get the most upvoes.
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>>388256408
thats his personal collection, not a work
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>>388261357
nah, not THAT bad. still when i click a webm i expect people showing off.
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>>388260910
you get the whole thing when it comes out.
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>>388261478
>he collects gas stations

...how...how is that any better
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>>388257427
>playing better Doom or Quake levels than his owns

hope you're not referring to dusk
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>>388255893
Why the fuck do people find it acceptable that video games are regressing like this? Why must people celebrate doing the same thing we did in 1996 with almost zero improvement or general creativity or extra anything to make the experience worthwhile?

There are fucking thousands of third party Quake levels and mission packs available on the internet FOR FREE already, why remake Quake and add nothing to it? Why is this game considered anything positive at all?
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>>388261514
ill get it sooner if someone leaks something. didn't buy doom1, didn't buy quake, not buying the same shit 20 years later.
actually bought doom gba, ps1,and d3, but don't pay for games anymore anyway.

>>388261604
isn't he still working on some new shit?
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>>388261808
he's working on a way to set himself on fire with gas
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>>388261604
I think it's actually pretty cool, also collectors tend to preserve history pretty well since they know a bunch about the certain thing they're collecting so they can build like really historically accurate mock-ups for things and it's really interesting to see the past like that even for something as simple as like gas station history.
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>>388259910
Ok, look at this pic and tell me Dusk has better visuals.

>>388259331
It's the level design, the setting and uninspires monster design (in terms of AI and behaviour). I can ignore the weapons being generic as fuck or the fugly art direction but everything else feels... lazy.

>>388261723
I mean things like the Cacowards winners.

At least it's fast.
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>>388261808
Oh, so you're just a faggot then
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>>388261737
the game plays nothing like quake, mongoloid
the only reason people are comparing it to quake is the graphics and that you can strafejump (the way you do it is completely unlike bunnyhopping in quake)
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>>388262191
>the game plays nothing like quake, mongoloid
Why is it that every bit of footage I see could be easily mistaken for a Quake mod?
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>>388262510
because the graphics?
the game itself plays much differently than quake because the level design is way more open and the enemies have much less health. You sound like those faggots who would call quake a doomclone.
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>>388262024

I didn't say it had "better" visuals, but it does look like a crappy game made from the same time period. Considering too it's been made by 1 FUCKING PERSON, I think it looks fine.
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>>388262191
>DUSK reintroduces you to a world where butchery and bloodshed must be mastered if you're to make it to dawn. Inspired by Quake-
and we are done here
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>>388255893
John Romero? more like John's No Hero, amirite
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>>388255893
Boggles my mind that someone with percieved popularity which makes them no better than anyone else on this earth one to one is accussed of being bribed for liking something
(You)
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>>388263095
that is to say, John's No Demo
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>>388263095
>F310
I had one before I got my DS4 for PC and it sucks, only good if you're on a budget.
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>>388259906
My guess is he hates it because of how broken the health system is. I mean he waited like five minutes and his health still wouldn't regenerate
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>>388263612
nah, and theres literally nothing you can do about it but post with impotent rage
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>>388263612
>John Romero
>e-celeb
Are you deliberately being retarded, or just accidentally?
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>>388262779
>It's just one guy, so it's fine if it's mediocre

And you can see how games developed for one guy looks appealing or at least serviceable. It's too much ask for art consistency, at least?
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>>388264542
is that Bombshell?
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>>388263612
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>>388264756
Bombshell prequel, Ion Maiden.
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>>388264915
>published by 3D Realms
>releasing in Build in 2017

Randy didn't take their studio too? I know he took the handful of people working on Duke in their kitchen
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>>388255893
>guy is advertising his own game
what's the problem?
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>>388265413
it's not his game
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>>388255893
it looks fun though
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i pity the fools that didnt play BLOOD.
Best FPS back then and still more fun to play than most current FPS games nowadays
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>>388265880
>remaster and BLOOD 3 exclusive to the ataribox
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>>388258603
Man this shit was so disappointing.
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>>388265152
Ion Maiden is being developed by some modders and people behind Eduke32. It thas the potential to be the best FPS from this retro wave
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>>388266594
that shot looks like shit, has to be another game right? these screens look classic on the other hand
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>>388266876
No, >>388266594 is Gibhard (the dev worked on commercial games, btw). I think it looks fine
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>>388266594
>some modders
The ones responsible for the DNF 2013 mod specifically.
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>>388266594
>randomly generated
hahahahahahaha no it has no fucking potential. that is the only thing that even sets dusk apart from anything, we all know it looks mediocre but its actually being designed by hand.
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>>388269675
Ion Maiden isn't randomly generated.
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>>388269675
>Its a pic of a different game
LMAO are you retarded?!
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>>388258706
Pretty sure they already have said the levels get longer and harder in the 2nd and 3rd episode. Not sure about complexity though.
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>>388265880
>want to play Blood again
>lost the rom to it
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>>388270513
It's on GoG.
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>>388255893

>What went so fucking wrong

What's wrong with Dusk? The only thing I noticed 'wrong' with it is that it has a novelty 'one-hit death' difficulty mode compared to something genuine like Quake's nightmare mode.

>>388263612

>John Romero
>e-celeb

You're either too young to remember who John Romero is or you're a summer normie. Either way you need to leave.

>>388257896

You're on a board filled with NEETs who prefer hotpockets and tendies so remember that making $20 is a lot in their minds.
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>>388271205
> $20 is a lot in their minds

STRAFE is $20 too. But it's pure shit. So maybe ou should give it a try, considering it's cheap.
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>>388271169
gog sells games with drm now, so fuck em
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>>388258801
>dave "cinematic experiences are crucial to game design" sywlwnciski shills his game here
>2gb ram when it shouldnt be anywhere near that
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>>388255893
Dusk is good you fucking hipster.
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>>388258801

>Why do you guys hate on Dusk?

Because being contrarian is hip and earns them their (you)'s. It's like the same people who would make threads saying how people are entitled if they wanted Valve to make EP3/HL3. It's all about the (you)'s.

As someone who just recently did a marathon of Quake & Quake 2 in Nightmare mode and Unreal in Godlike mode (along with their mission packs...yes even that horrendous Ground Zero Q2 one), Dusk fits many of the bills of an old late 90's fps compared to the locked arena psedo retro shooters like the new Shadow Warrior and Doom games.

The only major problem I have is what >>388271205 said. It's hardest difficulty isn't hard enough and the one that is suppose to be even more difficult is a novelty version. If the difficulty is properly adjusted then I'd say it works perfectly well.

>>388259747

>I don't have to answer shills

If he was a shill then that means he's being paid. Unless the creator of Dusk is a multi millionaire, how would he afford to pay people to shill for him?
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>>388263095
is john a tranny?
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>>388272098
> you fucking hipster

Funny from someone shilling an indie obscure muh-retro-fps-for-purists shit.
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>>388272232
no?
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>>388272342
Nah, i was playing wolf 3d and the like before the best of you was running down your mother's leg.

This is a nice throwback to those days when quake was fresh. You just don't get it, neo /v/.
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>>388269779
ion maiden is no name of any game and i recall reading that this game is procedural generated
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>>388272101
>as a man with a clear nostalgic bias
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>>388272101
>the locked arena psedo retro shooters like the new Shadow Warrior and Doom games

The reason for that is because you can actually get stuck very easily if they didnt seal them off per room, I dont get why this is such a big issue with some people, I dont have an issue with it especially when you play on Nightmare in doom2016 and slowing down at all gets you almost dead if not dead. You just need a ton of space if not you get fucked.
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>>388261604
I've got weirder fascinations.
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>>388273472
well me too but i dont collect boys in a basement

yet
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>>388263612
>we've reached a point in time where people don't even recognize John Romero anymore

Fuck, I'm not even that old.
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>>388270513
>rom
Are you having a giraffe? Are you kids this dumb?
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>>388271205
>What's wrong with Dusk? The only thing I noticed 'wrong' with it is that it has a novelty 'one-hit death' difficulty mode compared to something genuine like Quake's nightmare mode.
Oldfags hate it because its not identical in every way to Quake, Newfags hate it because it looks like a game from the 90's. So basically nothing, first episode was really fun albeit short.
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>>388272232
why is your first thought tranny? he's just edgelord who listens to shitty metal music
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>>388274571
probably the painted fingernails
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>>388274194
literally who? what did he work on, something good right, like call of duty?
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>>388261604
It's not, but /v/ wants to suck his micro penis and will tell you otherwise. Consider that he is LARPing a gas station attendant.
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>>388274571
everyone outgrows metal by age 14 tho, so why the nails
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>>388274571
>>388275218
yeah it was the fingernails
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you know what they say about rule 34 right guys, haha
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>>388275218
>>388275379
>>388275461
that is adequately explained by
>he's just edgelord who listens to shitty metal music
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>>388275589
you can be an edgelord and not have gay ass fingers
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>>388275759
yeah but it's still pretty obviously the reason why
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>>388255893
What happened to his kickstarter game?
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>Still literally zero sign of life of Blackgate or whatever the fuck his Kickstarter game was called since it's been taken down
Romero wake the fuck up
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>>388255893
desu I'm going to buy it or pirate it or buy it which ever comes first because of this

How did they get romero to do this. Seems worth it to me desu.
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>>388272101
Anon, what did you think of the godlike mode in unreal? It was added in 227 and wasn't balanced at all, on the contrary it was intentionally dickish to the player by adding insane projectile speeds and acceleration/top speed and damage of all monsters
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>>388257778
>>388257991
Get the fuck out
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>>388255893
He road the coattails of Carmack but Carmack got sick of his freeloading "idea guy" shit.
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>>388274547
>Oldfags hate it because its not identical in every way to Quake
The map design looks like complete shit, I've seen better levels in free mods. This game is nothing but a cashgrab aimed at old shooter nostalgia.
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>>388261357
This is how I felt picking up a controller for the first time in like 5 years of straight kb/m gaming.
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>>388258603
>claim game is a throwback to oldschool fps, a genre reknown for level design
>make it randomly generated

what could go wrong
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