Dragon Ball FighterZ

Please no gt vs super

Level 7s when?

STILL NO SUPER CHARACTERS

>>388238285
are SSBs like the shadow characters from P4A, or are they separate characters entirely?

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>wasting slots on palette swaps

>>388238474
Separate characters with different movesets, please don't ever trigger me by mentioned Shadow Characters again, thanks.

>>388238365
>"Hey I actually prefer GT over Super."
>"H-holy shit, lmaotopKEK, gtpedro mexican grasshopping border jumper, super 17 s-a-y-s hi you pink fur cosplaying homo"
Reminder it's always Supercucks who start this shit.

>>388238285
The only goku variant that deserved a slot was Shota Goku, SSB was a mistake and I like how as soon as it was announced for this game a new form rendered it irrelevant.

Reminder that Super content is indeed in this game with Goku's Kaioken Blue Kamehameha and Vegeta's Final Flash Attack.

>>388238474
Entirely separate in that they have their own spots on the select screen and their own moves. Their normals seem mostly similar to the regular Goku/Vegeta, but their specials, supers, and overall playstyle are different.

I think SSGSS Vegeta looks pretty cool actually. Love all of his supers, especially that they got Galick Gun in there

>>388238474
We don't know but I assume separate characters entirely.

>>388238392
based arc systems

hope we get some GT bros instead

REAL FANS ONLY CARE ABOUT Z AND SUPER
db(young bulma) and gt(pan) pedophiles should go back to the pedophile nest aka /a/

>>388238563
>slots

Why such a knee jerk reaction to Super characters?
>Beerus
>The Blues
>Hit
>Some version of Zamasu
That's all I can see being added, the rest of U6 doesn't have enough meat to them, and the new arc isn't even done yet.
The game already feels heavily Z focused so while Cabba and and a 2nd Zamasu are also fair candidates I doubt they will put more than 1 U6 fighter and 1 Zamasu.
I don't think that is taking too much away from DB, DBZ, and GT.
Ignoring Super's writing and the character's personalities you still have a few characters with cool abilities and plenty of Pre-Super characters to choose from.

>>388238365
Both are bad. The only things of value to come out from them is GT's music, Super Saiyan 4 and Black. Everything else is garbage.

>>388238563
>pallet swaps

Their specials and hyper combos are different but the normals seem to be the same

>>388238285
I just hope these two dont turn out to be the top tier scrubby characters that everyone uses. Otherwise, I don't really care. Super is after my time but I'm sure there are plenty of new fans and manchildren that like it.

>>388238707
>Beerus
>super
Lol, no.

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punchy manlet bros ww@

>>388238580
Way to go, dude. Chill out with that /a/ shit.

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This is a no stupid arguments about super zone

Ignore all obvious bait

>>388238747
Blue Vegeta looks a lot of fun, he seems to be super-rush down and most of his specials looked like true beatdowns
now blue Goku looked boring as shit

>>388238740
I was going to put (Debatable) next to Beerus.
Forgot, my bad.

>>388238723
>Assassin Pikkon and Dragon Pikkon are garbage
wrong

>>388238285
If this shit doesn't tickle your fancy you have no fancy and cannot be tickled.

>>388238580
It's not though. Super is actually well received unlike GT. Sick blue forms beat gay monkey shit anyday

>>388238732
I'm pretty sure the SSB are going to be this game's versions of the Mishimas as in difficult to use but top tier. I want to see how this game handles Beerus.

>>388238731
>they're the same but different
their hair is blue that's it

>Dragon Ball Fighter Z
>Includes super characters

rest of the roster:

*Heroes
-Ultimate Gohan
-SS3 Gotenks
-SS Vegito
-Yamcha
-Tien
-Bardock(DLC)

*Antagonists
-Kid Buu
-Beerus
-19
-Dabura
-Nappa
-Ginyu
-Broly(DLC)

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>>388238747
I only main chads

>>388238392
SSB kaioken is literally from Super

>>388238656
I know this is a shitpost but some people unironically think DB and Z are different things. Toei is a fucking shit and they've always been. The original anime had plenty of flaws. Read the fucking manga.

Why is being both a dubfag and a secondary allowed when it comes to DB?

>>388238920
A transformation is not a super original character. Goku doesn't originate from Super, he's technically a DB character. Still no shit characters, sorry fag.

>>388238898
>Dragon Ball Z Budokai 3
>Dragon Ball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 3
>includes GT characters
>Dragon Ball Xenoverse
>includes Z/GT/Super characters

>>388238816
This is perfect and can't be disputed.

But give the DB and the DBZ movies their own separate invisible line that's dotted to represent alternate dimensions/what-ifs like Toriyama originally said they were.

>>388238886
Yeah I wouldn't really mind that then. Hoping my boys Gotenks, Tien, and Roshi make the cut and do well. And I'm already gonna play Piccolo.

>>388238898
Dragon ball SuperZ

>>388238871
I recognize nothing personnel Piccolo, who's Dragon Pikkon?

>>388238885
>It's not though.
It is.

>>388238885
>"Superfans start flame wars"
>"No we don't, SSJB is objectively better than Gay monkey shit"
my last (you)

>>388238816
But Kai and Z are the exact same, the former is just a remaster that cuts out some filler.

>>388239028
We're now encroaching on extreme levels of denial.

>>388238913
this actually isn't bad

i would prefer roshi over ultimate gohan and pilaf, mai, and shu in a pilaf machine over 19 though

>>388238392
They have moves from Super like the Final Flash attack Vegeta did on Black

>>388239160
>says the idiot superfag as he ballerina dances around the fact that there aren't any characters from Super yet

>>388239121
Nova Shenron.

Pretend Fusion Reborn doesn't exist and Nova is Pikkon with a better outlook on life.

Super was a mistake
prove me wrong

>>388238285
so, is SSJ3 goku will have a slot?

>>388238580
You literally JUST started it.

>>388239096
I want Jackie Chun. He'd be the same character either way but having him in would just feel more exotic and would be cool as shit.

>>388239259
Renewed interest in the property in part allowed DBFZ to exist so it's a necessary evil.

I haven't read the manga but I heard that's pretty good also.

>>388239259
Super wasn't entirely the problem
Yamamuro, Toei, and Toriyama
Now those, those are the problem

>>388238913
19 is not happening.

>>388238816
There's no Dragon Ball "Z" manga.

>>388239230
No one denies SSBK being from Super, but SSBK isn't a character from super, it's a transformation from Super that uses Kaioken and SSB that Goku uses. Goku is not a super character. Once Hit gets announced you will have your time to gloat, but that time is not now.

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>>388239230
>it's a different move because Vegeta had blue hair when he did it

>>388238913
>-19
>-Dabura
Not happening. 16 was pushing it in terms of popularity but those guys are nothing

>>388238285
it sounds like Iron Maiden

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>>388238656
>implying super doesn't have loli

>>388239256
Oh, right.

>>388239028
You seem to feel the need to be completely right so feel free to cap this post and make a 'AHAHAHAHAH' post about it if I'm wrong, but super is going to be in the game, sorry anon.

>>388239372
There is in the US, plus it's just an easier way of just saying "part 2"

>>388239395
It's a different move because it's a punch infused with the power of final flash. Did you even watch the gameplay trailer? Or super?

>>388239259
Still better than GT

>>388239259
Bulma is still hot.

>>388239350
The manga smells slightly less bad but, in the end, it's still a piece of shit.

>>388239372
Technically you're wrong.
The English manga is called "Dragon Ball Z" and is separate form the OG DB.
>inb4 translation isn't canon
my point stands

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>>388239350

>super
>manga
>good

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>>388238285
Their existence seems redundant, honestly. There's already the basic SSJ Vegeta and Goku, and then they can transform even further. Why didn't they just make this a transformation for both those characters and then do Gogeta and Vegeto or something else rather than just 2 more slots being taken up by Goku and Vegeta with blue hair but literally godmode.

>>388239454
Read
>>388239383

>>388239167
LOL, Ultimate is already confirmed and we aren't geting giant mechs

>>388238285
I'm fucking pissed. It should have been SSJ4. If they're gonna make another Goku, at least let it be a Goku with a significantly different design. I fucking hate Super, Toei, and Toyotaro.

>>388239267
SSJ3 Goku is used by Goku

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>>388238898

>>388239497
Localizations aren't canon.

I said no gt vs super
Who cares whats better
The characters are still gonna be fun

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>>388239358
>>388239398

yes he is

>>388239343
why not have both? we're getting multiples of the same characters already

>>388239521
Cause they have different movesets. I guess they could have just been installs but they also want to push super

will it have the superior final flash?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v55t5jnhz5s

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>>388238285
>this garbage is in instead of kid goku or the great grape ape

>>388239504
>Trunks is god tier because they watched GT power scaling
>shitty animation and art direction
>goku is faster than time because why
>Black is just an SSJB that gains power every other episode
>better than the manga
nope

>>388239521
Because too much effort. Change the hair color, put in a few new animations and call it a day.

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>GT vs. Super
>this doesn't count as something from Super
>wasting slots on palette swaps
>this shit every single thread
>repeated until infinity

why are you people like this

>>388239521
Agreed this makes me want Vegito/Gogeta even less now even though we're without a doubt getting them.

>>388239521
>Why didn't they just make this a transformation for both those characters
The Vegeta in this game is from the Cell Saga.

>>388239696
>>Black is just an SSJB that gains power every other episode
Black is worthless without granny Goku killing it. Hell, the entire arc is, I stopped caring once they fused.

>>388238285
What the fuck? Why not SSJ4? SSJ4 is amazing, it ties back into the primal power of the Saiyans: the Oozaru. It has such an incredible design and concept. SSB is literally just a palette swap of SSJ. More people also like GT than Super so why are they still shilling that complete dogshit show? Goddammit, fuck ArcSys and fuck Toei.

>>388239662
You could make a moveset out of anyone, there are probably more pages of Bulma hitting people alone.

It doesn't mean they will get in. Again 16 was pushing it but no one cares about 19

>>388239504
Reminder Super anime established that you can not only pass hakai power to your pet dog, but that it's possible to resist it entirely if you're strong enough

The anime did more damage to hakai than the manga ever could

>>388239863
>SSJ4

fuck GT and fuck white people

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>>388239761
The threads after the first Gamescom trailer were pretty good at least. We got 16 gameplay and some good combos.

I just want to talk about how the meta is progressing now that we've seen plenty of footage.

>>388238683
Are you autistic or retarded?

This game looks like trash. Why are people excited?

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>>388239761
>He had hopes for these threads
Regardless of pretty much any character revealed, or if they revealed anything at all, there was going to be shitposting. You had to foresee this.

>>388239858
>granny Goku killing it
It's crazy how this is literally the only time where this statement can be stated.
fuck

>>388238862
>Blue Vegeta
It's Bluegeta you stupid monkey

>>388239521
Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Vegeta have enough moves that have a lot of stuff different from the Super Saiyan Form.

If they tried to stack all those new moves for Install only moves, it would just complicate things for players when Arcsys is trying to keep this game as simple as possible for players.

>>388238919
>chadroid 16

>>388239761
Cause we don't have much new info on the game that hasn't been discussed

It doesn't help that high level footage is few and far between

>>388239907
>the meta
I hate that term

>>388239761
Blame superfags

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>>388239863
Fuck off
>>388233930

>>388239863
Stop it. I've seen this shit in 2 other threads already you stupid GTpedro/falseflagging Supercuck.

>>388239858
>granny Goku killing it.
She was ok, Merged Zamasu's voice actor was better.

>>388239868
nope, he's unique and has enough manga panels which is the most important factor

16 had few panels but his moves and style are unique so he got in

>>388238563
>they look similar that means they play the same too

>>388239987
I think she did pretty well in this arc's filler when Goku was full keikaku mode, but then the tourney started.

>>388239259
>continuing the dragon ball story after 20 years is bad

the actual show might have ended up shit but whatever

>>388239907
I hope Max did a breakdown for Piccolo. Really want to see what the guy can do, and there's no footage where anyone seems to have figured him out.

>>388239821
Just as easily as they decided to do that, they could've chosen not to make it the Cell saga Vegeta and make both Goku and Vegeta capable of going SSB instead of having 2 Gokus and 2 Vegetas, but one goes SSJ3 and then the other is SSB by default.

>>388240061
Those moves could've just gone to Gogeta/Vegeto though.

The recording of the stream stopped a minute before the return timer ended, did they reveal a new character?

This game desperately needs girls, MVCI only has 4 girls in the base roster.
Caulifla and Kale can't come soon enough.

>>388240126
god damn. is vegeta like 3 feet? chibi goku is up to his shoulders

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>>388238285
I really like SSGSS color scheme and they are fucking great on this, I can't believe I'm hyped for a fighting game

>>388239907
Honestly, it's too early to tell. Gamescom had novices going at it with limited time to learn the game, so in 4 hours we only saw maybe seconds of competent, definitive play. We're gonna have to wait a good while.

>>388240281
Fuck off retard.

>>388239893
GT was bad, but SS4 was cool, we've established this

>>388239875
Except Hakai and destruction energy are two different things you retard.
Meanwhile in the manga Goku can justill pull attacks he shouldn't know out of his ass.

Oh and passing energy is a concept in DBZ that's older than you are.

>>388238885
>Super is actually well received unlike GT.
Good one.

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hurry up and put broly, super 17, and hit into the game so that there's no more autism over what counts as content from certain series

we had enough of this from the start with gold frieza

>>388240287
Well, Vegeta IS a manlet. And he had his knees bent.

>>388240339
Needs more girls gayboy

>>388240126
SSJ4 was a really great concept. Too bad the eyeliner and magic pants had to ruin the actual transformation.

>>388238285
They're sticking with SSGSS? Isn't it canonically just called "blue" now?

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>>388240064
Whatever you want to call it, I just want to talk about the way neutral is going to work, the combo possibilities, team synergy, etc.

I can't wait for the beta so we can see some more optimized stuff. If pic related is some Day 1 Piccolo shit I can't wait to see what people can do with tags or other extensions.

>>388239907
>the meta is progressing
Well from what I noticed most moves can be canceled into Supers, Vanishes, or normals.

Cell's mid air 2B can be canceled.

>>388240281
Can't wait for the asshurt if they add Towa

>>388240169
>he's unique and has enough manga panels which is the most important factor
Again i can say this about anyone. Number of panels doesn't mean chance of getting in and they have easily made fairly normal characters like Krillin very unique

Here is the key factor, some people liked 16 and no one cares at all about 19 who is an ugly design on top of being a nothing character

>>388240281
>Caulifla and Kale can't come soon enough.
Now this is shitposting.

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>>388238919
Only chadroid in this series is Arale though.

>>388240358
Whatever helps you sleep at night

>>388238285
I honestly like how intense Super Saiyan Blue looks in this game. Wished that the producers in the anime put more effort into their work because the transformation feels weak whenever Goku or Vegeta use it in the show.

>>388240126

Goku's head is HUGE

>>388240442
It's literally the same thing, saying one or the other doesn't make the other wrong or disappear

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>>388240281
We'll get Chi-Chi and femBuu.

>>388240442
Yes, but games and other material outside of the anime/manga seems to stick with SSGSS for some reason

>>388239761
GTfags always start shit whenever Super is mentioned. They also seem really insecure around SSB, like this retard >>388239863 right here.

>>388240517
I'd give anything for her to get in.

>>388240358
>Meanwhile in the manga Goku can justill pull attacks he shouldn't know out of his ass.
Yeah, there's no way he should've been able to use the Kamehameha just after seeing it once. Fucking dropped.

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>>388240281
Fucking Chi Chi deserves a spot in the roster more than those pieces of shit

>>388240264
>Those moves could've just gone to Gogeta/Vegeto though.

What the fuck. They're not gonna give shit like Goku's one inch punch, Kaioken Blue Kamehameha, and Vegeta's Final Flash Attack and his ground pummel to Vegito or Gogeta. Think before you say shit.

Vegito is going to get his own shit that he used like Final Kamehameha and Spirit Sword.

>>388240442
They only call it Blue in the show, because the characters saying that over and over would take too much time. It's canonically a nickname.

>>388238285
Who is doing the soundtrack? I like it.

>>388240476
It sounds like you are just throwing out terms without or just basic knowledge on them

We can't judge any of that without lots high level play, we barely have any and most better matches are still half fucking around

>>388240080
>>388240627

>Blame Superfags
>Blame GTfags

You're all fags and I blame you all.

>>388240390
>put broly, super 17, and hit
Can't wait to see the autism fits.

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>>388238885
>It's not though
>Immediately tries to start shit

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>>388240281
Caulishit and fem-Broly are not getting in. I'm getting sick of you delusional waifu shits and super faggots spamming this garbage. fuck off back to /a/a you idiots.

>>388240638
Isn't Goku a fighting genius even though he's born a low class warrior? Or did I get it wrong and it's just pure fighting autism that powers him?

>>388240558
>Buu gets a female form (and a whole race out of nowhere
>no feminine namekian

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Can't wait for Tenshinhan. I hope he gets his Buu arc or Super costume if he makes it into the game. Not that I'd be bothered by his original getup.

>>388240281
Can this game redeem Kale and Caulifa by giving some meat and muscle on their base form?

>>388240442
SSGSS is the actual name given by Toriyama himself. SSB is only said in the anime/manga for convenience.

>>388240504
wrong, uniqueness(energy drain) and material to base moveset on(manga panels) are the deciding factor

can't wait for your butthurt when he's revealed

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>>388240517
Don't forget the original Android 16 too.

>>388240673
Like the MvCI meme goes, all those specials are just functions. Functions that could be given totally different visuals and names but work the same way on any character.

>>388240687
they need to replace the soundtrack and have bruce faulconer produce a new one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJEXBbCAO9Y

DB Super is just a fanfic and will NEVER have characters in this
DBZ exclusive game.

Fuck off with your retardation

>>388240736
i also think that power_maximum.function, energy_absorb.function, and time_stop.function would fit into the game fairly well

>>388240769
It's a bit of both. He's a low-class warrior and a bit of a moron but he's got high fighting IQ and can learn things very quickly provided they're about fighting.

>>388240638
>after seeing it once
Key words here anon.
For everyone that doesn't keep up with the manga the major reason Goku using Hakai is hated is because he is never even seen witnessing the technique at any point.

>>388240754
I mean, super saiyan blue and android 16 were just announced

literally anyone can get in now

>>388240687
I dunno, they said Ishiwatari (the guy behind Guilty Gear's OST) isn't working on it but I think he could be giving direction because of the main menu theme. I really like the West City song though.

>>388240819
it will be his Cell saga one

>>388240819
He'll be his Cell saga self, just like Goku, Vegeta and Gohan.

>>388240867
8er somehow manages to be cuter than that loli

>>388240935
We've already seen super designs and transformations. They're obviously just going to announce a Super character later on once the big names are out of the way.

>>388238285
Looks like they have some new stuff but it's hard to tell if everything about their movesets is new. If they do manage to be unique from normal Goku and Vegeta I'm fine with it, though I was kind of hoping for more entirely new characters. I'd rather not have just the same characters with varied movesets. Having normal Goku and SSB Goku on the same would be weird, and might be harder to tell which version is which (if they have different assists) depending on how busy the screen already is.

>>388240935
>Being delusional after super saiyan blue

>>388241001
Fuck you, Chadborg 16 is a DBZ fighter staple.

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>>388240998

>>388241001
Both of those were in Extreme Butoden and Ultimate Butoden so that's not too surprising.

>>388241005
>>388241032
It could be his DB one to rep that, not like he changes much anyway plus the plot seems to have some kind of time travel

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I have barely any idea about Super beyond Hit, Jiren, Krillin having a kid, and Black/Zamasu. Mainly because I don't want to watch it in Japanese.

English dub when?

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>>388238285
I don't get it. It seems to be the perfect cel shadings graphics but somehow the characters just don't blend into the background and it looks more like a video game and less like the anime than this 2001 GameCube game.

>>388241056
This is actually the first trailer to show a Super only concept. That being Kaioken Blue.

>>388241130
Read the thread you delusional super shitter.

Need more female fighters?
Fasha
Chi Chi (Super Dragon Ball-inspired or loli version I don't care which)
Bulma in a CC mech (a la Tron Bonne)
Zangya
and Videl
There there's four that are way better options than Califlap and Dale

>>388240716
It's less judging and more speculation. It's the best we can do, but it's better than the "which sequel series is less shit" wars or people talking like they just gave palette swaps their own slots when the Blues are going to play differently.

We know enough from Max's breakdowns that team makeup is going to be involve who can get hits and who can clean up using character switches mid-combo, we can discern enough about the combo system (mostly that it's very open) now that we know how mechanics like Smash work, the tournament at the very least has shown us what combo strings do and don't work and timings for things as well as the prevalence/weaknesses of the Chase mechanic.

We won't be able to extrapolate much further until closed beta footage, but there's enough to talk about.

>>388240734
Superfags started it

>>388241032
Goku is buu saga retard

>>388240867
That's android 8 dude, 8 is literally is name too

>>388241257
You don't want characters in a fighting game to blend into the background, stupid.

>>388240476
I feel like the combo could've continued after the hellzone grenades. Ending with the light grenade is cool but it doesn't seem to do much for the amount of meter used.

>>388241212
The dub of super is up to episode 30, its a painful wait.
Goku's fucking grandma voice is unbearable in the sub and other characters like Vegeta just sound weird.
I'm not buying this game until I see footage of the dub.

Literally what is so bad about having Super characters? I can understand not wanting the meme female Saiyans, but Goku Black and Hit would be great and unique additions to the roster.

>>388241180
manga Super reads like a shonen in the sense that it will probably be explained as channeling god ki or whatever, but it's still an explanation and not a plothole

>>388241180
And where's the panel of goku seeing it?
You know like he did with the kamehameha?

That's kind of the part people expect. Hell even GT had Goku see a technique from the wind Shenron before using it.

>>388241315
>Dragon Ball fans have the literal mindset of autistic children

Explains a lot.

>>388241264
Story trailer had Super Bulma.

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>>388241301
Ms Satan

>>388241301
>Fasha
No moves
>Chi Chi
Helmet blade and chinese finger knives
>Bulma in a CC mech
"We want to replicate how characters fight in the original series"
>Zangya
Not enough normals and like 2 specials.
>Videl
No specials, no ki charging.

18 is the only female we need, Arale would be gravy though.

>>388241212
Krillin had a kid in the buu saga dumbass

>>388241212
>English dub
it isn't any better either. is there better dubs to listen to?

>>388241384
Hit cant be in he has no ki attack this game has a ki attack button

>>388241502
RoF Bulma and 18*

>>388240281
>Caulifla and Kale can't come soon enough.
Keep dreaming

>>388241332
No he's BoG saga you dumbass.
>Buu saga Goku has a symbol on his gi
I've never read anything so retarded in my life.

Gohan (Teen)
Krillin
Goku
Nappa
Raditz
Piccolo
Frieza
Captain Ginyu
Vegeta
Trunks (Super Saiyan)
Goku (Super Saiyan)
Perfect Cell
Teen Gohan (Super Saiyan)
Android 18
Majin Buu
Gohan (Adult Super Saiyan)
Adult Gohan
Goku (Super Saiyan God)
Gotenks (Super Saiyan)
Kid Buu
Broly
Bardock
Beerus

This is Extreme Butoden's roster. Outside of a few selections, I think we can expect something similar.

>>388241301
>Fasha
No real moveset, probably wouldn't make story sense
>Chichi
She can't keep up, I'd like to see her in but they'd have to embellish a lot.
>Bulma in a CC mech
Would be cool, kind of the same deal with Chichi
>Zangya
Movie character. Movie slots are gonna be precious, no way they pick her over someone like Broly, Janemba, etc.
>Videl
The most likely choice after C18, honestly.

>>388241520
Piccolo's uses his stretchy arms when you press the ki attack button you fucking dumbass.

>>388241520
He has a ranged attack where he punches the air creating a shockwave, he literally does it in the latest episode.

>>388241301
Oh yeah let me add Arale and Pan to that list

>>388241384
Most pushing them are just doing to it to piss people off
Most replying are trying to piss super fans off

The rest are fine with it but also don't want the roster being 5 Gokus and better known characters to be overlooked for marketing the new show.

>>388240358
>Except Hakai and destruction energy are two different things you retard.
Nice headcanon bruh

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>know next to nothing about super so decide to look up characters
>people want this motherfucker in

uuuhh...

>>388241384
There isn't. It's mostly just GT fans that get butthurt about it. Maybe if they get Super 17 or Omega Shenron they'll get over it.

>>388241520
Piccolo's Ki button is replaced by stretchy arms.
16's Ki button is replaced by 2 rocket punches and need to be re-attached before shooting them again.

Not having ki blasts won't be a problem.

>>388241301
Super Draonball Z's version of Chichi is the only decent one out of who you mentioned. I can completely understand not wanting Caulifla or Kale to the game, they don't really have anything to bring to the table. To then suggest characters like Fasha or Zangya is ridiculous though, you guys are dumb contrarians to the extreme.

>>388241212
English dub airs on Toonami. They're very far behind, enjoy being a year+ behind.

>>388241510
Funi's all you get. Maybe there's some Malay dub if you're really desperate.

>>388241384
None of the Super characters are memorable and unique because they're carbon copy of existing characters. Goku Black is memorable because he didn't act or fight like Goku in the anime.

>>388241363
I think there's just enough time to dash up and pull them down with 2S into Special Beam Cannon. If not, use your character switch into somebody that flies right up to them, hits a couple normals, and then ends the combo. I'd use 16, use his grab to slam them into the ground, and then use the Level 1 Hell's Flash since that seems to work well off of those.

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>>388238285
>Vegeta special a single punch
>Goku special a series of sick combos

Vegeta getting the shaft again.

>>388241685
Imagine Pikkon but with assassin techniques.
Pretty cool, right?

>>388241685
You should try actually watching Super

>>388238816
Except Super follows up on filler from the original Z

>>388241351
He's saying that Android 16 was like Android 8 anon.

>>388239504
>Goku sees and copies a good technique just like he did with kamehameha
>it fails because he wasn't good enough at it
>people chimp out and call it an asspull
Meanwhile on the show Trunks pulls out immense power out of literally fucking nowhere and finishes off the villain that SSB Vegeto had trouble with. Sorry, but the manga has been a big improvement every time so far.

>>388241685
I watched footage of him, he's actually pretty badass.

>>388238285
>Their movesets right down to their normals and combo enders are literally references to battles that occur in Super
>STILL NOT DRAGONBALL SUPER MUH GAEM IS STILL PURE

>>388241685
He's 1000000 years old and can control time!

>>388241679
>one breaks down your opponent instantly
>the other engulfs the enemy and doesn't
Why are mangafags so retarded?

>>388241787
If only his head wasn't a penis.

>>388241787
I guess. that guy just looks like autistic fanart from 10 years ago

>>388241830
>>388241685
Hit is strong but I could beat him in a fight easily.

>>388241685
Think that's bad? His moveset is literally stopping time and *teleport behind you*.

>>388241685
Hit has a pretty bland design but he's the only character with a remotely interesting fighting style so far, everyone else is just "ki blasts and punch"

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>>388241257
Friendly reminder ArcSys are masters of making things look 2D and like the anime and that you are a blind retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E

>>388241810
Where?

>>388241685
Hit is an assassin who's way more powerful than Goku by merely changing his fighting style in the fly.

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>>388241627
>Extreme Butoden
You could have just posted the image

But yes cutting out most of the repeats that seems mostly accurate. I'm not sure we will get Raditz and Nappa though, not against them being in

>>388241520
It's a "Special" button. It's for normals that are more than punches and kicks. We've seen Piccolo's stretchy arm hitgrabs and 16's rocket punches mapped to that button, and even with ki there's some variants like Krillins' changing direction and Trunks just have a weak beam instead of small blasts.

That button will be whatever the hell they want it to be.

>>388241861
See >>388241679

>>388241779
Goku's special:
>Kaioken Blue x10
>slow hit sequence
>speedy combo
>air launcher
>Kamehameha
>dash through kamehameha into super punch
>Vegeta's special is a gut punch

what did they mean by this?

>>388241831
Their normals are the same as the regular versions. The supers are undeniably from Super though.

>>388241837
If he can control time why is he so old ?

>>388241997
Because he's cool and edgy. Buy toys!

>>388241685
His design might be meh but his abilities are legitimately interesting.

>>388241861
>the other engulfs the enemy and doesn't
It didn't erase them because Freeza tanked it and Goku had plot armor dumbass

>>388241997
He's like a fine wine.

>>388241961
Vegeta hasn't done any cool shit since becoming SSB, while Goku has

good thread keep posting niggas

>>388241923
I'm guessing we'll just get Nappa. He has more moveset variety and he'd be one of the few big guys on the roster.

>>388238563
You can't tell by looking can you? They have different normals and specials, as well as supers.

>>388241961
SSB Goku's metero takes too fucking long and has way too much shit in it. Vegeta's looks cooler.

>>388241896
It would be so interesting to just launch an ArcSys map in a random Unreal FPS/TPS and just explore the area.

>>388242092
Underrated

>>388238365
They're only adding this because it's a ki and hair color change. He's not even wearing his DBZ Gi.

>>388241923
How does this play? Commands?

this is viral. saged and reported

>>388241997
He doesn't control time, he skips it.
That's how he kills people and it's literally why he's old. All he ever does is skip time, so he gets older... wait, that's not right...

>>388241685
>Piccolo has no penis
>his alternate univeral general in-story parallel is all penis

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>>388241685

RIP mahvel

>>388242221
kek

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What are his chances? He was easily the most standout member of the Ginyu force

>>388242182
You can emulate to try, I remember it being mix

A lot of the animations from there are in FighterZ so it is interesting for reference

>>388242221
wew laddie

>>388241685
Still a better antagonist than Fat Buu, Semi Perfect Cell, and anything from GT.

>>388242184
>Viral

What is this 2012? I thought "shill" was the new term that was hip with all the kids now.

>>388242196
The time skips for the victim hit lives the skipped time

>>388242220
>Piccolo has no penis
Someone hasn't had their dosage

>>388239259
>Super was a mistake
Yes and no. The idea is good, the execution is terrible, and the effort isn't there.

>>388242307
Ginyu is more likely than him, and for big characters after 16 I'd say Broly and Nappa are more likely than him.

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>>388240517
Her and Launch are my pipe dreams.

>>388238580
>triggered Pedro
LOL!

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>>388242221
Wow, it's almost like he has a consistent fighting style and uses similar tactics against two different people who were both unaware of said tactic at the times of each fight!

>>388242221
>Dyspo's ability was extreme hearing and extreme speed
>He would listen for the muscle contractions of Hit's body when he tenses up before using time skip and act a split second before the time skip happens
>Goku would predict where Hit would end up after the time skip so that by the time the skip is over he naturally would've hit the area Hit was coming from.

Dyspo was cool and all, but if he was as fast as light and shit(what the subs said at leat) and was fast enough to react BEFORE Hit used time skip, why didn't he just speed blitz him off the ring?

>>388241779
>Vegeta special a single punch
>no sign of Gamma Burst Flash
Gotta love how everyone just keeps ignoring Vegeta's new techniques, despite the fact that one of his defining combat features in Z was that he was constantly coming up with new shit.

>>388242307
Probably part of Ginyu's moveset if we get him. Recoome has a lot of moves but he's a big retard who looks too similar to 16 visually.

>>388242196
He can control time though. He decides who and who isn't affected by his time stop.

>>388241821
>>Goku sees and copies a good technique just like he did with kamehameha
>>it fails because he wasn't good enough at it
>>people chimp out and call it an asspull
Except he didn't fail because it doesn't work but because Zamasu warped Mai over you retard.
>Meanwhile on the show Trunks pulls out immense power
From the people left with whatever Goku and Vegeta had left. Also energy gathering is DB basic.
>finishes off the villain that SSB Vegeto had trouble with.
You mean the villain Vegeto had fought off and weakened and was about to finish before the Fusion ended giving Trunks the opportunity to finish.

Typical of a mangafag to not actually pay attention.

>>388242513
Linear moves only

>>388242221
The animators were holding back.

>>388242492
That's like if they reused the same kamehameha over and over

>>388238285
am i the only one amazed by the visuals
its like playing the anime expect it looks less like shit

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>>388239987
>>388239858
>>388240208
How the fuck is Sean Schemmel going to pull it off? I just cannot imagine English Goku as a convincing villain. Masako really it threw out out of the park as Black

>>388242492
>super fag delusion knows no bounds when it comes to defending this shit

>>388242221
why did the graphics become considerably better in the second fight

>>388242492
Yeah, lick my arsehole. You'll probably like it.

Bardock would be a wasted pick for the starting roster. Prove me wrong.

>>388242062
So then they're clearly not the same move are they.

>>388242492
You got something on your nose, anon.

>>388242705
Shadows and stuff

>>388242561
>Except he didn't fail because it doesn't work but because Zamasu warped Mai over you retard.
It's a fucking instant kill, obviously it needed dues ex to negate it.
>From the people left with whatever Goku and Vegeta had left.
No, that literally doesn't add up.
>You mean the villain Vegeto had fought off and weakened and was about to finish before the Fusion ended giving Trunks the opportunity to finish.
>weakened
weweweww

toeicucks are just strange

>>388242753
I can't.
Bardock is a goku clone with no moves. total waste of a slot 2bh.

>>388242658
He's already dubbed Black in Xenoverse. He did a much better job than grandma Black.

>>388242561
>You mean the villain Vegeto had fought off and weakened
Nice headcanon Zamasu tanked a final kamehameha he wasn't weakened, retard

>>388242705
This arc added grain and some sort of filter.

>>388242221
You mean improved because Dyspo getting his shit wrecked by Hit looks better because you can see the weight of the blows.

>>388242658
Sean has said he's working on the Black voice. Both ones he did for Xenoverse were done with minimal information on the character and poor influence.

I think his Rose performance, minus the accent, would be good. Just have this calm, laconic, cocky, and indignant inflection that Goku never has, but have his voice be Goku's rather than some weird British Goku.

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full OP
https://youtu.be/NiHOHS8xYGk

>>388242518
>Gamma Burst Flash
One, no one cares about the manga
Two, it's just final flash with the hands turned inwards

>>388242705
They didn't. There's just a filter over all the Super episodes now, starting at the beginning of the Universe Survival arc. Gives it a somewhat grainy look.

>>388242859
I know you're baiting, but there are people that unironically believe this

>>388242769
>being this retarded
wew lad

>>388238580
yeah and gohan is gonna kill el grand padre
go home pedro

>>388242753
Considering Arcsys they would bullshit him a fighting style and because only the Main 6 are scrub characters he would have some sort of depth similar to Krillin or Piccolo.

And he's a better choice than characters like Yamcha and Ginyu, so he wouldn't be THAT bad.

>>388242658
Masako is a terrible voice actor for Goku.
I imagine they keep her just because she voiced him as a kid in the original dragonball and just didn't have to heart to tell her to leave.

>>388242705
In Super, the more important a fight is, the better graphics and animation it will have. That's why Vegetto vs. Zamasu and SSBKK Goku vs Hit are literally the ONLY fights in Super that somewhat resemble good animation.

>>388238285
So what happens if you have SSB Goku and Regular Goku on the same team? Will they cop out and have them just act as two characters or will he power up/power down when you switch?

>>388242753
I think any character could be made into something good, but yeah I think there are characters with more potential

>>388242859
>He did a much better job than grandma Black.
fuckin lol

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Why is everyone ditching the RoF clothes? They were made for Super Saiyan Blue?

>>388242859
Surely you aren't talking about batman to brit right?

>>388241980
I was more referring to the moves that go beyond "punch and kick" Vegeta's aerial command grab that slams you and that move he uses where he literally punches you to the ground are direct references to his fights with Goku Black and G.Freiza respectively. Goku's jumping Kamehameha was what killed Frieza and his wall bounce is the One-Inch Punch he uses on G.Freiza.

>>388242942
And Blue is just a Super Saiyan recolor.

>>388238816
Quit trying to act as if Kai isn't an abortion that shits on the original series.

>>388243003
>I imagine they keep her just because she voiced him as a kid in the original dragonball and just didn't have to heart to tell her to leave.
That's pretty much it. Hell they were going to replace her for Battle of the Gods due to her age but Toriyama said no so she's pretty much going to voice Goku until she dies.

>>388242921
>Both ones he did for Xenoverse were done with minimal information on the character and poor influence.
I find it hilariously sad how much the dub team was screwed over on Xenoverse 2. Having to do the lines with no context at all beyond what was in the lines themselves must've been awful.

>>388243056
RoF outfits were unpopular in Japan, which sucks because they definitely work better for Blue and having new gear for the new series is a good idea.

Those MMA gloves they had in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber worked really well with them too.

>>388243056
Apparently nips didn't like the new clothes because they're nips, so now we're stuck with the same fucking clothes forever

>>388242963
Hakai is a specific technique that cannot fail to destroy anything that isn't another god.
Destruction energy is the energy that technique uses but only a GoD can actually use it for Hakai.

>>388243056
>Why is everyone ditching the RoF clothes?
Not as iconic.
No one(read: fans) liked them.
They don't sell as much as the normal clothing.

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>>388242658
It's extremely hammy and bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_y4ABmppFY

>>388241923
I'll do that next time. Thanks dude.

>>388240846
No, the entire point is that they aren't savages.

>>388243193
>cannot fail to destroy anything
Nice headcanon retard

>>388243056
Wtf did Goku get skinnier over the years?

>>388243187
>>388243184

Two weren't enough.

>>388243056
Why doesn't Super Saiyan Blue have its own hairstyle like SuperSaiyan 3 did? Did they run out of ideas or something, or does Super Saiyan God basically just reset their entire look, but then change hair color? If so, I wonder if there will be SSB3 with long blue hair and no eyebrows.

>>388242753
I agree. Fuck Bardock wanking and fuck SSJ Bardock specially.

>>388242942
>it's just final flash with the hands turned inwards
Wrong. Final Flash is a beam. Gamma Burst is a huge fucking wave thing, not a beam.

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>>388240517

>>388243219
That's also before Sean was even told what kind of character Black was supposed to be and being a video game, everyone is phoning it in anyway.

>>388243234
Not being a savage doesn't make you a skeleton.

>>388242753
Bardock is a bruiser and would be a great charge character

>>388241791

Why would you ever wish that evil on someone?

>>388238285
jesus. how many transformation with goku are they up to now?

SSJ
SSJ2
SSJ3
SSJGod
SSJGod blue edition
Vegito
Vegito SSJ
Vegito SSJ god
Vegito SSJ god Blue edition

am I missing anything. christ. shit needs to die.

>>388243023
I think this is the only time I can confidently say we'll get the cooler option.

>>388243219
Both are those are worse than shit.

>>388241504
>Videl
>No specials, no ki charging.
Saiyaman shenanigans

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>>388243056
>concentration camp goku

what went wrong?

>>388242825
>It's a fucking instant kill
It's the old immovable object unstoppable force saying anon. Zamasu's regen and immortality in the manga was buffed considerably to the point where it could maintain a fusion and copy it multiple times over despite the whole "you fused with a non immortal" thing being in the manga too.
>No, that literally doesn't add up.
Weakened Zamasu ÷ Powered up Trunks = 2 r soul
It's pretty simple anon.

>>388243413
Yet it does. Its why all the saiyans in U6 are normal people of normal weight.

Its also why they were smart enough to notice what actually makes you SSJ.

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when's handsome buu?

>>388243320
Ssj bardock is more popular than broly here in mexico

>>388243428
Because Hit vs Goku (in the anime) is one of the beat fights in the franchise

>>388242475
It seems like anyone who wants Arale wants Launch in. I want both of them in too, but it seems to be a trend I noticed

>>388243436
Oozaru and the new form coming this arc.

>>388241821
>Meanwhile on the show Trunks pulls out immense power out of literally fucking nowhere
This desu Trunks' friendship sword was right out of Fairy Tail

>>388243564
No it's not.

>>388243436

At least they essentially got rid of 2 and 3.

>>388243531
why do they have so much shit taste their. I don't even like Broly, but SSJ Bardock is fucking retarded.

>>388243564
best*
god fucking dammit

>>388243482
Toriyama grew old and tasteless.

>>388243436
Oozaru
SSJGrade 2
SSJGrade 3

And if you want non-canon:
False SSJ
Gogeta SSJ
SSJ4
Gogeta SSJ4
Golden Oozaru

>>388243647
Prove it then

>>388241821
>it fails because he wasn't good enough at it

On top of that it would have failed anyway since Hakai doesn't work on immortals.

>>388243564
Top kek

>>388243256
Not him but Hakai's canonical use at point blank literally atomizes the victim. The energy balls made of destruction energy being no longer with it's point of origin isn't as powerful and only does the same to those who can't resist it. It's the difference between being waterlogged and being tied to the back of a submarine that's about to go on a ten month mission.

>>388243647
Whatever, Juan

>>388243564
>Because Hit vs Goku (in the anime) is one of the beat fights in the franchise
I actually laughed out loud
lol