Can we stop pretending that piracy is killing the industry now?

>the pirate bay

>>388234231
yes, this is the torrent website that everyone and their mothers are familiar with. what was your point here?

>>388234351

Americans can't into piracy because they wouldn't download a car

>"the developers are losing money on each game that is refunded, so they are desperately and quickly releasing it for free so people can demo it before purchasing and refunding it as a means to demo the game"
ftfy

>>388234116
How can we be sure they didn't upload a tainted version of the game that fucks up your save or computer somehow?

>Upload to pirate Bay
That's not how it works

What are they dumb?

Downloading it right now.
What am i in for?

>>388234620
>shit guys were losing money on refunds what should we do?
>LETS UPLOAD A MALICIOUS VERSION THAT FUCKS WITH PEOPLE

Would be pretty silly, desu.

>>388234620
They would never do that officially.

>>388234676
The game has a very niche feel to it. I like it, but I could see why it would get refunded. If you're someone like DSP, who doesn't try anything and expects the game to tell you exactly what to do, it's very easy to see why this game gets refunded so highly.

>pirate bay
are we 2005 again?

Nice, I'm going to pirate it.

>>388234825
Yes but has anyone actually idependently checked just to be 100% sure? It could be something as benign as the game deleting your save when you're 1 click away from finishing it and it would still make all your effort wasted.

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>>388234116
>darkwood

what's that, blacked.com's new competition?

>>388234924
You know I once thought games were shit for telling you what to do all the time.

Then I played Don't Starve and I didn't know what to do so I would look up guides. I'm a hypocrite aren't I?

You don't upload anything of the data you want to share to piratebay. You make a torrent file which is simply used to find wherever the files may be seeded.
Nothing illegal about hosting torrents anyway.

>>388234546
Seems like a sound decision to me. What, were you actually expecting they would do it out of kindness?

>>388235302
There is a middle ground between constant handholding and zero direction. It's funny actually, The Long Dark opens with it specifically telling you "this is a hard game, it will not tell you what to do", and then you play the prologue which is entirely dedicated to telling you what to do.

>>388235538
Fuck me, I meant Darkwood, not The Long Dark.

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>people refunding because they're scared
<spoiler>now on day 10 and i still haven't reached the marker on silent forest, fuck that shit i ain't going in there</spoiler>

The game looks and plays like shit, why is there so much shilling for it?

>>388235302
Game that tell you what to do, outside of the controls in the instruction manual (none of that out of place tutorial shit) will always be garbage. The best games are the ones that tell you nothing so that you're surprised the whole fucking way through.

>>388234546
Sounds good, when you don't release a demo you can expect refunds when people turn out to hate the game after they buy it.

>>388235901
Doesn't matter. You can get it for free.

>>388236214
Why don't people shill for actually good games, like 20XX?

Didn't Pirate Bay become a honeypot site after the owner got arrested?

>>388236113
I remember being really scared while playing Corpse Party on the PSP. I mean it looked like a shitty rpgmaker game, and there's nothing scary about those, but maybe that would be the gimmick.

>>388236323
Just dont download top 20 shit and no one really cares.

>>388236332
See, you experienced what I mean.

>>388234676
It's a PR move

>>388234793
Dark Woods

>>388236690
Everything is PR move these days.

>>388235056
They wouldn't do that when they announced that they would release a torrent publicly under their name.

>>388234116
Goddamnit now I have to buy this game.

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>>388236308
>actually good games
>like 20XX

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>>388235162

>>388236874
So why hasn't anyone impersonated them and uploaded a tainted version? There are more than enough jackasses who would want to do this to prank people.

>>388234546
>They're losing money so they release a free version, I somehow interpreted this as a bad thing.
So you're retarded?

has there ever been anything affected by piracy in any significant way?

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>>388237569
The high seas.

>>388237569
merchant ships

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>But please, please, don't buy it through any key reselling site. By doing that, you're just feeding the cancer that is leeching off this industry.

>its pirates that are killing the industry guise

>>388234116
>forced to refund the game
Are they really that naive?

>>388234793
Open world procedurally generated survival crafting with a couple of really good spooks.

>all these newfags that don't know this isn't even the first people to do this

/v/ is the worst it has ever been.

>>388234793
A virus

>>388238931
it always is

>>388236458
can confirm. i got my first isp notice ever after my sister downloaded an ep of game of thrones.never had an issue until that.

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>>388238587
>Open world procedurally generated survival crafting
Download canceled.

>>388238347
Context.

This frustration was further exacerbated when Acid Wizard looked at the reasons people were asking for refunds on Steam. "When we read the explanation from someone who wrote that he needed the refund because he didn't want his parents to be stressed out when seeing the bill at the end of the month... well, it made us feel quite bad," the developer lamented. "So we decided to do something about it!"

>>388239226
I've received 6 letters so far, 1 for each ep of GoT this season. I don't see why people are afraid of these letters man, I've been getting 30+ every year and literally nothing has happened.

>>388239109
>it's always been full of virtue signaling NeoGAF retards and Redditors

Maybe you've just been gaslighted to think that way but it hasn't.

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>>388239636
>get first letter
>tell them that this is an invasion of my privacy and if they do it again I'll drop my contract and sue
>get a letter of apology and never sent one again

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>>388235162
CARLOOOOOOS

>>388239226
Why would you even download an episode of a show instead of streaming it? What is this? The 2000s?

>>388239789
lol reminds me when I had charter spectrum and they sent an email threatening to cancel my service if I got caught again. I kept torrenting and my service was never terminated.

>>388238931
Who implied this was the first time this has happened? I'm OP and I wasn't even implying that

>>388240097
What a coincidence, my ISP is charter spectrum. Same exact letter.

>>388234116
Only 1 fuckin problem...its not worth torrenting

>>388240138

>>388234650
>>388234620
>>388234676

>>388240092
Better quality.

couldn't figure out the combination for the lock so I deleted it. 3/10

>>388234539
Excuse me?

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>>388240307
It's literally the same quality.

>>388236113
You're an idiot.

>>388240092
Are you just a newfag or underage?

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>>388240538

>>388238587
no thanks

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>>388234116

Denuvo accidentally proved that AAA games don't lose any noticeable percentage of sales from piracy, even in the first few weeks of release. Every cracked Denuvo title took at least a week or more to be placed onto torrents and there's virtually no statistical difference in sales trends between AAA Denuvo games and earlier AAA games without Denuvo.

Any shit like this is just pure PR, as always. At least we can stop pretending that piracy is harmful to anyone but the moron who downloads a tainted malware torrent.

>>388241248
I CHALLENGE YOU

>2017
>taking the virus b8

>>388241994
>sue them for distributing a virus
>get millions

>>388234539
I pirate shit every day in good old america without a vpn and my isp doesnt give a shit

>>388240538
What the fuck is this? I thought Kodi was the pinnacle of streaming. I know nothing, apparently.

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>>388241248
>the m'lady

How do i survivea night in the silent woods? Im at day 20 but havent survived a night in 7 days in silent woods what gives?

>>388242751
but is is kodi

>>388243607
Which uh, add-on thing, I don't what they're called. I usually just use Exodus, but that doesn't seem like it.

No, pirating alone isn't single-handedly killing the vidya industry. It sure as fuck isn't helping though. PC is getting less and less games over time and indies are getting more and more cautious about taking the time to even bother making a game they know they aren't going to get paid for. PCfags are just shooting themselves in the feet.

>>388237569
piracy has an effect on literally anything that involves an exchange of goods and services you dumb fuck

>>388239452
So they just want children who don't know how to budget themselves to enjoy the whole thing for free?

>>388243942
>indies
Indie games are more numerous than ever before. "Early access" didn't even exist 10 years ago. Besides, nobody cares about indie studios.

>>388243939
They have a real-debrid account to get that quality, but the addon itself is either exodus, phoenix, or salts.

>>388240092
To use the media player of your choice with the configuration of your choice.

>>388243939
Exodus isn't worked on they changed the name to covenant, and I pay for a Real-Debrid account for better quality... it's only like $2.50 a month. With a RD account you can get the Bubbles addon and it lets you stream torrents, so you can get those 12GB 1080p blu-ray rips to stream no problem.

>>388234546
It's not a bad strategy to deal with Steam's refund policy. Plus, it ultimately gets more people to try and eventually buy their game. It's also free advertisement

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>>388243942
>PC is getting less and less games over time
>Meanwhile one of the biggest "NEVER EVER"s, FFXV is getting a port

>>388238587
>Open world procedurally generated survival crafting
You are doing a really good job of dissuading me from purchasing

>>388237569

Does it being used as an excuse count?

If so: companies fucking over paying customers. Which then just justifies more piracy.

>>388237569
Rebel act shut down due to piracy. Severance 2 never

>>388241248
Denuvo proved that games actually sell WORSE when there is no piracy. Because people who pirate games will always pirate or won't give a shit. But when people can pirate it works as a free advertising.

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Darkwood is pretty fucking good actually, lots of weird shit happens at night
>Sitting in barricaded room at night
>Hear someone knocking on the door
>morning comes
>there's a dog corpse laying at the door

Cool. Been looking for a newer horror game that isn't 1st person. Hope it's fun even though I have enough >roguelites on my plate

>>388234116
I thought pirate bay was shut down?

Holy shit, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen.

>People refund game because it's straight garbage
>"Let's willingly give pirates our gaem"
>"HURRRR why is no one buying our gaem?"

>>388248621
It's actually selling really good though?

>>388248621
It's PR, you retard.

>>388235764
Don't you want to escape the woods? Don't you want to beat the shit out of that asshole that stole your key?

I bought this game a couple of days ago, due to work I only got to play it now - put in about an hour and a half.

I really really really like the atmosphere, and my first night was genuinely spoopy as shit and I was fucking all aboard, but at the same time I don't think I have the patience to aimlessly wonder around looking for shit and doing all the scavenging and survival shit without really knowing what I'm looking for.

Don't know if I should persevere and wait for it all to click or just refund it whilst I can

REEE

>>388243552
Are you just leaving all the doors and windows wide open or something?

>>388237569
some ds and psp games

>>388237546
Steam takes a 30% cut of every sale, but when you refund something steam doesn't give back it's cut so the developer has to cough up valve's cut so the consumer gets a full refund.
So when you refund something you cost the developers more money than if you pirated it.

>>388237569
Just the people that got a lawsuit. Matter of fact, Nintendo sued some Australian kid several years back after he uploaded a NSMB wii game to a torrent site before it got released to other regions and Nintendo won that case, being awarded $1.3 million.

>>388234116
>this dev did it so it's ok

>>388248762
>>388248971
What's stopping people who bought the game from refunding it and just pirating it for free without repercussion?

idiots

>>388249514
Somehow I doubt that's true.

>>388237569
Spanish Kingdom

>>388249514
>when you refund something steam doesn't give back it's cut so the developer has to cough up valve's cut so the consumer gets a full refund
Gonna need a source on that one

>>388249717
If they were going to pirate it they would have already pirated it from a source other than the one the developers uploaded you tard

>>388249660
>Nintendo
Nintendo has always been autistic about that shit. It's also why they're systems are targeted so heavily, the people doing the heavy lifting for that shit don't like being told no.

>>388249660
Guy was 24 and he was ordered to pay 1.6 million, 1.5 went to Nintendo

>>388249717

That would always be an option, whether or not the developer goes out of their way to do it themselves.

The developers don't lose anything by providing their own piracy torrent. The only difference is that they can leech positive PR by providing their own "benevolent" torrent instead of some pirates or crackers getting the attention.

>>388249717
Nothing.
Some people have morals and stuff though.

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>>388234116
very nice

>>388234945
I've always used Pirate Bay. Is there a better alternative?

>>388234116
The thing is, we had proven the whole 'buy it if you liked it from pirating' is utter bullshit with the first Humble Bundle. Apparently, if people can get away with paying for nothing, they will pay nothing. This would just more likely to just piss off any players that actually bought the game before they pulled this stunt.

>>388250146

> top number of seeders

The PR is already taking an effect with how end users are voluntarily supporting the torrent. I really doubt that the developers organised 300 seeders themselves.

Is it worth downloading or is it just muh walk around the woods and pick up planks of wood to craft shit game

>>388250271

I don't understand how customers are at any net loss when piracy alternatives existed in the first place. Logically speaking, you're not at any loss here when other torrents already existed anyway that were being patronised by other people.

Trying to stamp out piracy entirely or make the accusation that it's detrimental to sales makes no logical sense and it's not backed by evidence. Denuvo proved that you don't see any significant sales increase before the DRM is cracked and piracy will always, always exist as a temptation so long as a product costs money.

Only a moron would complain about this. At the same time, only the gullible believe the developers are doing this out of any sense of charity.

>>388250271
humble bundle, from the beginning, was more about increasing people increasing their games count than increasing the games they play

>>388243939
go to this guys channel and use theapps he says to use.

never had a problem. guy is a good help imo

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0QRG-gMqHhF5-BPdmJfs1w/videos

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>>388247137
>OOGA BOOGA busts in through barricaded window
>right into a bear trap
>pelt him to death with rocks

>>388250271
>>388250698

This. Humble Bundle usually doesn't benefit indie developers in any way outside of publicity. The majority of the money tends to go into fees, the different charity groups or NGOs, and the Humble Bundle team.

To be brutally honest, this is also why I don't like supporting Humble Bundles anymore (not usually, anyway). They're not a great way to support indie developers and it only encourages other people to support this system.

Is the game spooky or scary enough to make up for the fact it is yet another survival crafting meme

Why would I ever spend 3 scrap on a bear trap instead of getting a chain trap for 2 scrap? Nothing in-game implies there's any difference.

So is the game good or not?

>>388234116
No, because all the anti-piracy shills are funded by the music industry, who are incredibly powerful and very jewish.

>>388234539
I would if I could

>>388251404
pirate it and play the prologue, it's really cool. i wish the game was a linear narrative instead of this sandbox shit.

How do I make Banshees fuck off?

>>388243942
What the fuck are you talking about. The p.c market share is increasing. More developers, especially the Japanese with their hate for p.c gaming, are beginning to see the value of p.c.

With most titles you probably won't see the same big payout on release day as a console but (if your game is good) you basically got guaranteed income trickling in.

And what's this attitude that your either a buyfag or piratefag. You can do both. I own 200+ games and I've pirated many more. Your not stealing a product, Your copying it. Even if you could completely stop piracy, I'd just end up buying less games because I'm not the type to risk or waste money.

>>388252584
Figured as much, it's a shame cause I'm proper into how the atmoshpere and that looks but at the same time I cannot be fucked to walk around aimlessly looking for shit so I can craft bollocks

>>388251197
But you can choose what percentage of your money goes to who?

>>388253154
>>388252584
Game is Linear in terms of narrative, the major quests locations you need to progress in game rarely differs much and you usually have them marked on your map for you to beeline. It's everything in between and the resources you need to survive that's RNG.

>>388252731
Banshees activate by eye contact, do the opposite of this thing and stare at a wall until it goes away

>>388254830
No harm in trying it I suppose, how far apart are the narrative sections and how aimless is the wandering and what not in between them?

>>388254146

As an individual, I can. Guess what the overall trend tends to be?

I don't blame anyone donating the majority of their money to the NGOs or charities. That's reasonable. But that's all the more reason why it's for publicity instead of any immediate financial benefit to the indie devs. There are quite a few blog posts by indie devs who were dissatisfied with the payout that they received from the Humble Bundle, especially since the HB team is totally self-sufficient due to the cut they tend to receive.

It's publicity. They don't usually make much money off of it compared to other outlets like Steam, GOG, or itch.io.

>>388255191
You can clear the game in 2 hours if you speed run everything and dodge shit that you don't need to but you miss out a good 3/4 of the spooks.

>>388255450
That seems like something I shouldn't do, given that it's the spooks that is my only real draw to this game

>>388244407
>>388245112
>>388250752
Thanks bros.

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Trader doing something shady in my workshop.

>>388255846
It's like sunless sea but less obscure for the main quest. Minor locations are randomly generated but Major locations are relatively easy to find,

>>388256306
Why don't you visit the Village? They are waiting for you.

>>388234116
That's cool and all but I'm still not buying your game, marketer.

>>388237569
Yes, shitty games.

piracy only kills indie developers, AAA studios don't care it's just publishers pushing anti piracy measures onto them

>>388256812
But shitty games still sell, if that was the case companies like activision and EA would be out of business by now.

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>>388249731
>>388249842

>>388256961
shitty games with no marketing department, then

>>388241248
You got some numbers to back that up senpai?

>>388237569
Everything
>>388243942
>thing exists, and belongs to person
>take that away
WOW

I actually bought the game in beta, and it's pretty good on release, but I'm spooked most of the time. From one hand, it's interesting to try to figure out what the fuck is happening, the art direction is pretty nice (especially the lighting). On the other hand, I'm a fucking pussy, and I get REALLY spooked when playing horror games. The last one I finished was AyyLmao Isolation, and I was clenching my teeth and my anus each time I heard a sound from the vents. I'm basically waiting for let's players at this point.

>>388257635
>>388249514
A quick google search says otherwise. The devs aren't out of pocket when someone refunds

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>>388234116
>players forced to refund

>>388258759
This. How would people be forced to refund?

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>>388238587

>>388234539
>Americans can't into piracy
Nigga my ISP in Texas doesn't give two shits.
Been pirating for over a fucking decade.

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>>388259259
Ready for the storm bro? Comfy Central TX here.

>>388258012

Is there any evidence that AAA games sales have shot up as a direct result of Denuvo's protection? You could tell me to provide evidence all that you'd like, but the burden of proof is on Denuvo's patrons to demonstrate that this is really benefiting anyone in any tangible financial sense.

Compare the sales trends of Rise of the Tomb Raider (Denuvo) and the 2013 reboot (no Denuvo) for just one of many examples. Rise of the Tomb Raider did not appreciably spike up in sales just because it had full Denuvo protection for a full six months. This depends on what percentage you believe when people claim that piracy costs X % of sales. Even that percentage keeps changing, which makes the anti-piracy argument even more flimsy and goalshifting.

>>388259414
send some to az pls

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is this an indiegogo content? looks quirky enough

>>388258759
>don't have money because i am a thirdworld faggot
>never buy games anyways
>too lazy to get my 3kb/s torrent starting
>buy game on steam
>download it
>refund it to get my monthly wage back

They should just stop selling videogames in shitholes.

>>388259414
I'm in San Antonio so all I'm planning on doing is charging my phone and handhelds for a comfy night.

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>>388234116
the game is pretty buggy though,
There are few bugs where you can progress the game and sometimes there is savegame curruption (given the fact there is only one save, youre basically fucked).

Also if you playing it, be sure to enable vsync, since the game has no fps limit.
Otherwise the game will try to tax your gpu to 100%. So you have 1000+fps ingame and your GPU will be frying at 90°C.

>>388259656

> losing money that they were never going to let you have in the first place

You're using some pretty retarded logic outside of the negligible amount that they genuinely lose through charge-back fees. Then again, I do agree we should gas all inferior races but that's a separate argument.

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>>388234116
>One indie group do this for PR
>"Lol, I guess piracy is fine you guuuuuuyyyyys"

Whatever you say, sempai

>>388259483
Rise actually sold worse (or slower) than 2013. 2013 sold 1.3 mill in the first month, but it took Rise 3 months to sell "well over 1 mill"

>>388234116
the fuck is darkwood?

>>388259876
>You're using some pretty retarded logic outside of the negligible amount that they genuinely lose through charge-back fees.
Those are pretty heavy.
So heavy that devs stopped getting Steam keys because people kept trying to attack them with chargebacks outside of the giant store.

>>388259643
No, the Indiegogo content is one of the dreams you can get, it's really obvious when you see it.

>>388259979
It's no longer piracy when the creator gives it out for free, it's just free distribution at that point.

>>388259984

You're right. Rise did in fact sell worse, and I'm even willing to be lenient towards the anti-piracy argument because there were platform issues and the marketing campaign didn't seem to be that successful. There's also naturally less hype surrounding a sequel than a full reboot.

Even so, if piracy was such a bad problem then Denuvo's protection should have easily made up that loss.

>>388259835
Oh shit son I finally have a reason to own a 3DS, thanks for reminding me.

>>388260095

There's no perfect system for refunds since there's no such thing as a "free lunch" here. Someone has to eat that charge-back cost and if anyone really believes that forbidding refunds entirely (and encouraging piracy) is better than eating the charge-back fees, then I invite anyone to seriously put that to the test with their own business.

Quite frankly, telling customers that they're not allowed to make a refund sounds even more financially dangerous than just eating the costs from a minority of assholes, especially if your prices are low enough that a bunch of darkies can afford it anyway.

>>388237569
Yes. Just look at PC gaming today, it's totally dead while piracy is at a high peak.

Why do you think nearly every single company tries to force DRM and shit?
And also all focus is on the console market now, because they actually buy their games.

>>388234539
>nobody got your reference
I won't scatter your joke to the heartless vee.

>>388246457
Fuuuck

I bought that game and loved it so much.

Never realised that was why a second one was made.

>>388237569
game dev tycoon

day 1 was like 200 legit sales and 3000 pirated copies

>>388260526
>Just look at PC gaming today, it's totally dead while piracy is at a high peak.
source: your ass

>>388234793

Don't listen to these faggots earlier. Darkwood is top down love child of Stalker and Penumbra if anything else.

>>388260692

Do you seriously believe that more than a handful of those 3000 would have paid money anyway? And even if they would, what sort of annoying DRM would they have to inject into their game to make it completely tamper-free?

>>388260586
The joke wasn't ignored it just wasn't an appropriate response to the question and trying to fallback on old memes just makes you look like a fuckbag.

Lads, is there anything to be done about banshees?

Im not sure I like this game. It's not that scary and the nighttime parts are boring. I dont feel like i'm going anywhere

>>388260526
>piracy is at a high peak.
Given how many piratefag sites have been shutdown within the past few years, I'd say it's dropping.
>Why do you think nearly every single company tries to force DRM and shit?
Because they all got taken over by shareholders and CEOs from banking and other entertainment industries who are jewish as shit?
>And also all focus is on the console market now, because they actually buy their games.
>the industry focus is on consoles
>piracy doesn't exist on consoles
what did they mean by this

>>388260157
>turn off indiegogo content
>shows up anyway
it was okay, tho

>>388260856
so because they weren't going to pay it makes it ok? i'll never understand this logic

>>388246457
>>388260619

The game sold poorly because of poor marketing and because they failed to hit the Christmas release date. Piracy is a good scapegoat for poor sales, but it's ultimately a pretty bullshit reason.

I mean, shit, they released only a month and a half after Christmas. I understand that development difficulties prop up but there's a reason why there's a natural rush to release by November.

>>388234116
publicity stunt

>>388260984
>piracy doesn't exist on consoles
And this is true, and even if it does the % of people on console that pirate stuff is so minimal it's barely nothing. Compared to PC gaming in which even 8year old kids and grandmas does it.

>>388260928

How many in game days are you in?

>>388259259
>>388259414

Lmao I'm torrenting on fiber in TX

No one gives a fuck ayyyy Texas bros

>>388261161
It's absolutely rampant on anything nintendo, given you can download directly from their servers, and only not present on current gen consoles because they haven't been cracked open.
When they do it'll be the same as everything else.

>>388261021

> observing crime as a natural phenomenon means that I'm defending it

I haven't pirated a game since I was a teenager, and I've bought most of those games later as an adult. I don't support piracy. Unless you're willing to lobotomize most of the population, you're never going to fully eliminate the presence of criminal activity. All you can do is recognize it as a reality (just like murder and rape) and establish a structure that disincentivizes it.

If we didn't have a system for civil lawsuits, more murders would take place because there would be no legal mediation for personal disputes. If war and displacement and a lack of stable relationships were all more common, then the number of rapes would be much higher than they hopefully are in your country. Etc.

>>388261174
3
I cant be bothered to continue. I probably expected something different.
The other new horror game Observer was great up until you finish the first mind connection thing. After that i realized it's just a glorified walking sim with ""detective"" bits thrown in.

I just want some good horror desu I wish P.T was on pc

>>388234546
>When we read the explanation from someone who wrote that he needed the refund because he didn't want his parents to be stressed out when seeing the bill at the end of the month... well, it made us feel quite bad,"
No they're just dumb and easily manipulated. Still nice tho.

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>>388261502
>3

That's like 15 minutes in! You probably didn't get any doses of mushroom juice in your veins either?

>>388261652

> exaggerated story that they're using to make themselves look like heroes

I think the people who take their claim at face value are the ones who are easily manipulated.

>>388261720
I found 2 mushrooms and put them in the cooker thing. Is that what you're supposed to be doing?

>>388261871
>>388261652
Is there anyone autistic enough to actually look for that """"review""""?

>>388261871
Yes they've cunningly manipulated me into thinking they are deeply stupid and easily parted from their money. Truly they are masters of the subtle arts.

>>388262089
It's not a review it's a refund.

>>388261341
There really isn't anything a game developer can do to decentivizes it other than make it DRM free and extremely convenient to buy, but the fact that Denuvo exists proves that doesn't work.

Sad reality is if you make games you have to be ok with taking the hit and accepting that people don't value your work enough to pay you.

>>388261907

You need to fill the whole syringe. Each shot adds more gameplay elements. You have to choose one bad perk and one good perk. For instance, the first bad perk makes you see hallucination (which damages you)) if you're without a light source at night.

Jesus, Anon.

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>>388238587
>procedurally generated survival crafting

>>388261907
yes gather odd meat, red eggs and embryos and inject the stew

you are also very early in the game there's basically nothing happining in the dry meadow.

>>388236308

What makes 20XX so good? As far as I'm concerned it's just another retro 16-bit indie game trying to be like everything else.

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>>388262329
>>388262391
Sounds like some fun elements start popping up but fuck sake, I genuinely have 0 interest in the game now.
What happens when you get further into the map?

>>388262290

I don't understand how much of a pussy you'd have to be if you were a creative artist or an inventor and took it "personally" whenever anyone stole or pirated a copy of your work. It happens. It should be seen as an expected expense instead of crying just because there are some bad eggs in the world.

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lmao look at this sheepish plebs game's cheaper than the 4 can of beers

>>388241248
i want to challange that faggot and whale pet too

>>388262615
It's very easy to take it personally when you've spent years of your life putting countless hours into your game, often sacrificing everything else to do so. I mean, you shouldn't but i can see why some developers get all emotional about it.

>>388262558

I'm not going to tell you a thing. Sounds like you've got a really short fuse, so this is probably not the game for you.

Besides, where's the fun spoiling you all the sweet stuff when the game is all about discovering shit by yourself?

>>388262558
you get to the silent forest.
the entryway alone is fucking spoopy then you get to meet more important charaters and the story really starts rolling.
be wary of the sow

ah and wolfman is a dick , take care of the kid

>>388237569
PSP died early because of piracy and since that shit scared Sony, they fucked up the Vita to avoid piracy too. Most of the vita blame is on Sony but piracy did contribute.

>>388259259
Why the hell would your ISP give a shit? IF there ever is an issue, they'll forward it unto you.

>>388263004
>I'm not going to tell you a thing. Sounds like you've got a really short fuse, so this is probably not the game for you.

I want to know if it's worth investing my hard earned time into a game I'm already not impressed with.

>>388263118
Sounds like any old adventure game then, not very cry of fear-ish but entertaining.
You think there will be DLC at some point?

>>388262558
seriously just take a few bandages 2 planks/w nails and go to the silent forest. nothing happens in the dry meadow even night time is fucking boring

>>388263330
ISPs occasionally get sued by various kike watchdog groups who do copy protection stuff if they aren't "proactive" about piracy

>>388263361

The first loading screen says:
"You are playing a challenging and unforgiving game. You will not be led by the hand. Respect the woods. Be patient. Focus."

It's not the game for you.

I'm a nigger

>>388234620
Because you'd have to be fucking retarded to be a company who has to maintain a public image and intentionally upload something malicious that would result in lawsuits then let everyone you know that you did.

>>388263361
The only difference between this game and an adventure game is the night and crafting mechanics. Theres a bunch of questlines with branching paths , choices and even a bit of investigation.

Personally i think the game would't be as scary as it is if it were a classic horror game with a classic gameover. Because you can actually lose something instead of just starting at the last checkpoint the game can get really tense and stressful

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>>388263429
Lol ok

>>388263920
What other games would you say it can compare to?

>>388239636
>I don't see why people are afraid of these letters man
They could be living with someone like my dad. Last time I visited him he got a letter because his wife's daughter got caught pirating GoT and instead of just ignoring it like I told him to he insisted to call them and apologize.

>>388234539
>be yuropoor download a car with an engine bigger than 1l
>cant drive it because the registration cost a fortune and the insurance cost $2000 a year.

>>388240092
Because I'd rather rely on the internet the one time I download it rather than every single time I want to watch it again.

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>>388263125
>PSP died early because of piracy
my absolute favoritest meme

I don't think anyone here actually hates piracy or thinks of it as the bogeyman. Everyone is so hellbent on trolling each other that we can't have nice things

>>388265143
Some people are just that fucked in the head. They tend to see being entitled as bad, even though a man should be fucking entitled with his money.
Also, neofag.

>>388263920
Perma death and limited continues are harder difficulties for a 2nd playthrough if you want to feel stressed about it. YOLOing through most nights because you respawn takes alot of enjoyment out of the game.

>>388264034
the quests and storyline reminds me of the crookedback bog from witcher 3.
I remember playing a very similar game like 10y ago but i cant remeber its name.

the game really is hit or miss and you will know whether you llike this game or not once you reach the village.
The game gets more story driven from that point on because of the more abundant supplies and the new characters.
If you liked the prologue you will get more of it for sure

>>388264905
It didn't kill the sales so much that it killed the release list. Like I said, piracy scared the shit out of Sony. We didn't get a bunch of games localized from Japan because they thought Americans were no better than the Russians when it came to the psp. Thanks to piracy, Sony killed the PSP and punched the vita while it was in the womb.

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>>388265657
That's a problem with suits being fucking retarded stupid, not piracy.
pic related your average suit

>>388265143
I don't hate piracy necessarily, but the people around piracy is just a bunch of shit heads. Lots of shitposting coming from pirates like it makes them superior for not paying for games. All that does is piss off the whales that they rely on, leading to a shit fling and sometimes a decay in player pools.

Not only that but if something becomes free and easy to access, people tend to rate it higher than other games that can't be gotten for free, that by itself drives me nuts personally.

>>388266076
I didn't say it was not, but suites pay for the thing. Without suits, we wouldn't get a lot of games, but without pirates we really wouldn't miss out on anything important.

>>388234116
lol i still can't run this piece of shit on linux after pirating it before they released the torrent, but i'll give them some respect for doing that. I'm sure it will get them a ton of extra sales.

>>388264380
Just use a keygen bro.

>>388251616
Iirc the beartrap does damage and holds thrm in place while the chaintrap does no or little damage while the victim still can move, although not as far.

>>388234945
it's the largest, most well known, and most used public tracker to this date

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>>388256493
Oh fuck, I'm glad I made made the shotgun before I found this place.

>>388252043
the atmosphere is nice and the story is cool. Melee is clunky in a right way. The artstyle of the dialogue screens is awesome, and it all has some "colour from out of space" touch. The overall pixel art is ok. But its really short. Hope the devs come up with more

>>388266772
dont kill the parents you madman

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>>388234116
I seriously don't understand Millennials obsession with JUSTIFYING every act of digital "convenience" they enjoy

>I'm not in the wrong for stealing games, the devs are wrong for protecting their properties!
>I'm not in the wrong downloading TV shows, the cable providers are in the wrong for running other shows when my favorite shows aren't airing!
>I'm not in the wrong for using adblock on every single website and video, content creators are in the wrong for wanting ad revenue!

I don't remember pirates being this PROUD of theft over a decade ago when broadband became more common place.

>>388267240
pirates have always been proud of what they do you retard
and if you're implying that things like using adblock are wrong when most adservice providers are malicious then you're nothing but a shill

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>tfw I capped the filthy musician

>>388267453
>pirates have always been proud

Hackers are proud of what they do. The ones who actually cracked and shared the products.

The masses of leeches were never this entitled until this generation.

>most adservice providers are malicious

Nice victim complex

>>388267860
>t. advertiser
Adservice providers have been abusing javascript exploits and delivering tracker cookies and malware for years.
They lost the internet's trust a long long time ago, now they're nothing but human garbage.

>>388234116
Why not just release it for free then instead of on TPB?

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>>388235162
Carlos I swear to god

>>388237569
Technically the PSP. While it ended up selling hardware, software declined as a result

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>barricated in my room at night with barely any health left and a broken weapon
>something starts knocking at the door
This game is too spooky.

>>388237569
PSP games, particularly Yu-Gi-Oh! Tag Force games.

>>388268296
This way they don't have to pay for bandwith people can download it from.

>>388259414
DALLAS

SALLAD

REPORTING IN

>>388238587

It's not procedural

>>388234116
>mfw pirated the game, played for 10 minutes and uninstalled

Not gonna say it's shit but it's definitely not worth paying for.

>>388263125
>PSP died early

Nigga you full retard. At least use google before saying stupid shit.
Piracy sold more PSPs because of how customizable it made the handheld.

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>>388235162
you win this round you little wetback

>>388238587

this is a fucking terrible description.

it's more of a survival horror RPG with crafting elements.

>Tfw my workbench is filling up
>Can't sell the junk fast enough

Is it a good game tho?

Is this some kind of meme game?

Oooh, so spoopy people are refunding.

Mainstream media saying it's really spoopy.

Feels like people talking about 5 Nights are Freddy's or some equally lame shit.

>>388234116
Wasn't planing to but i think i will buy it now, based developers.

>>388259483
It should be noted that most developers know that DRM does fuck all, it's the publishers, who know fuck all about anything, that keep pushing it.
They can't be reasoned with because they're businessmen. They just see that their project isn't "protected" and they use the logic that that must mean they are losing sales.
They see 10,000 downloads and see 10,000 lost sales and no matter how much you tell them it doesn't work that way they won't listen.

>>388272747
Mediocre. I started on nightmare, because it had permanent death so I excpected some tension. On the third night I nearly died - of boredom. You literally just stand in the corner waiting for the dawn, listening to "spooky" noises. I think sometimes something may break in, but you can easily fuck em up with a wooden plank. Don't know about the mid/late game, this is just too tedious and uneventful.

>>388273352
Yeah you just summed up the first area of the game.
Obviously that place is gonna be a lot "milder" in regards to everything than the later ones

>>388273352
I assume you're at the 1st hideout right? Those are the training wheels son, the later hideout will have you beat down hordes of monsters if you don't have a good defense line.

Can I play on Mac?

this is a giant fuck you to the people that bought it.

>>388273352
You could just rush the second hideout in a few days, all you need is about 2 moltovs to clear some infestation and some extra gas for it's generator iirc.

>>388273489
>>388273592
>>388273770
Alright, I'm hooked in again. I guess I was just too conservative because of the permanent death mechanic. Gonna restart on hard. I just didn't expect a second tutorial after the first tutorial.

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Really makes you think

>>388273984
>waaah, i supported the developers of a game i love!
There's a problem here?

>>388273984
It makes me think that some people are too worried about what other people get.

If it was worth buying it before, why does it become not worth it just because other can get it for less?

>>388273720
and?
That kind of thinking is a disease.
Someone, somewhere, is smarter than you, got a better deal than you, did better than you.

>>388273984
it's hilarious how many comments mention something like "developers like these deserve respect"

yeah, respect doesn't pay the bills and fund more games from "developers like these". fucking retards

>>388249514

That would be insanely stupid and abusable. Nobody would sell anything on steam if this were true.

>>388264393
>wasting space on your own computer for an episode of a show you'll watch once when it's streaming from infinite websites across the internet for free
You're fucking stupid.