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Secret of Mana getting a 3D remake!?

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Thoughts on this, /v/?

http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/secret-of-mana-gets-modern-remake-w499530
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It's like a dream come true! As long as they don't fuck it up, that is.
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>>388222449
Why this and not one of Square's more popular old IPs? They have plenty that are more well-known than this that need a remake. What the fuck are they doing?
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SD3 when?
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>>388222767
Japan. You can't just remake games from the most beloved series unless you are doing it for the western audience in super triple AAA graphics (FFVII)

When pandering moreso to Japan, you have to take a liked series but not insanely rabid fanbase one that has appeal in Japan, and then hand over the translated scraps to NA/EU.
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>>388222767
>squenix in charge of knowing what fans want
be glad you're not a live-a-live fan outside of japan
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>>388222767
like SaGa?
they're already doing that
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power bracelet
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based as fuck
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>>388223284
wrist*
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>>388222449
>!?

Fuck off.
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>>388223421
There is no need to be upset, my friend.
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>>388222449
It feels like my childhood memories are getting raped
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>>388222449
Is it coming to the Switch? It would be great to play on the go.
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I was excited when I first heard about it, but after seeing the trailer I'm just disappointed. They turned one of the most beautiful sprite games of the SNES era into a generic looking chibi game with PS2-level graphics.

I don't want the budget and graphics of a AAA game. But they clearly could have put more heart into this project.
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>>388223520

>Muh childhood

Get real the original game wasnt that great.

>Getting knocked out was frequent which would result in unfair losses
>Translation was bad that you couldnt tell what to do at certain points
>Unless it was intentional, stacking magic was OP
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>>388223579
Vita, PS4 and PC only. Either they are saving money or got a deal in with sony
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>>388222449
As I said, my new goal is to stay alive until February 2018.
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You can tell the made it for the Vita and then ported it elsewhere
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>>388223579

NEVER EVER
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>>388223647
It was great but it looked great for it's time
And it still looks a lot better than the remake today
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>nintendo cucked out of the remake for one of their nostalgiafag games
it's like pottery
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I'll play it again if they actually made changes to the combat so magic isn't OP pause time in menu shit.

I wonder how hard it would have been to make the entire game look like the claymation stuff they used in a lot of the original promos.
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>>388222449

>TFW I haven't played Secret of Mana yet

I mostly just played Final Fantasy and Pokemon as far as JRPGs go when I was a kid. I've been catching up for the last few years, but 30 something JRPGs in and it seems there's still a lot to go.
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>>388222767
>Why this and not one of Square's more popular old IPs? They have plenty that are more well-known than this
Like what? All I can think of is CT. And they're already remaking FF7, so they won't be touching any other FF titles for awhile.
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FUCKING POTATOES
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>>388222767
secret of mana is a popular older ip you faggatron. whats more deserving? the mana series kicks ass and I can actually see it being a game they could make better with modern amenities
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>>388222449
They're just going to shit-can it like they did the Chrono Trigger 3D remake.
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I've already finished this game like 20 times and I'll play it again, now. For some reason, I'm sure the original SNES game or even the Android version will be the superior experience, but I'm interested in what this will bring to the table.
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>>388224078
If this could put the Mana serie back on tracks, my life would be like 40% better.
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This is gonna be a fun little trip down memory lane. Totally worth it for $40.
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I just want a legend of mana remake
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>>388223579
I don't have a Switch, but I wish it did just so more people could experience this game.
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confession time

I never got passed like the first stage (when you get it as an icon on your map) of legend of mana despite beating SD1 and then loving SD3.
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That's neat.

Wake me up when they remake SD3.
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>>388224349
legend of mana was one of the worst games ever made anyways. Seriously, what a disappointment. I actually felt bad that my mother bought it for me when it came out because it was so bad and I just couldn't enjoy it
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>>388224496
This post made me sad for some reason.

Is your mom alright ?
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You are now remembering heroes of mana
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>>388224578
yes, but legend of mana never recovered. What a truly horrible game.
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>>388224628
Well if you're both good, that's nice.

Never played Legend Of Mana.
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>>388224583
That's a nice blank picture anon.
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Online co-op on PC would be great
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>>388224583
No

NO

NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>388224816
Oh, shit. I even forgot this was a possibility.
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>>388224287
Have you seen the trailer for this one? There's no way in a million years they could do LoM justice. One of the best thing about that game is how it looks, and they'd fuck it up big time.
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>>388224816
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>>388224816

Not if it acted like the original co-op. Having entire game pause if anyone goes in menu or uses magic. Being limited to the same screen as each other so shit like having to move closer to each other if you get stuck on a ledge and the screen scrolled past the exit of the ledge was really stupid. Hopefully the remake fixes all that.
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>>388224967
Yeah, I bet they'll revamp it.
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SD3 Remake soon right?

Kevin
Hawkeye
Lise
masterrace
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>>388224967
>>388225113
There is no way you will be able to freely explore the area, even for online co-op. I could see them making the combat more real time though
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>>388224945
I agree but I just want to be able to play it in 3d at least once, legend of mana is one of my favorite games of all time
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>>388224349
>>388224496
It's one of the best Mana games, if not THE best. Best atmosphere and music by far, and the individual stories of the 3 main quests are all more unique and interesting than anything in SoM or SD3. Combat is pretty wonky and very easy, but it's never been a hard series in the first place.
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>On PC too
FUCK YES
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Cool. I may pick it up on Vita.
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>>388223351

>the minimap is the actual map from the snes

That's... a really neat idea.
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>>388225153
>Hawkeye
That's a funny way of spelling Carlie.
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>>388225153
>Lise
>Master anything
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>>388225173

And why the fuck not? It is a complete remake and not some remaster on the same old SNES engine. What possible reason would they have to limit 2 or 3 players on the same exact screen. I'm not talking the same map, but the same screen dimensions. That is like if you are in a town together, player A B and C have to be in the same tiny screen and never move away from each other to like say the north and south end.
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>>388222767
T-there's still time for a remake of FFVI for the 3DS, r-right?
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>>388225703
>for the 3DS
No, fuck off. It will be PS4 exclusive.
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any tips on finding someone online to play with on snes9x?
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>>388226028
force ur irl friends to play
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>>388226145
>ur
Time to kys yourself, my dude.
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>>388222449
They should do this with Xenogears and Live A Live.
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Terranigma remake with a U.S. release WHEN?!?!
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You really shouldn't get hype for this, the last time they said they'd do a 3D remake of an old game of theirs they cancelled it.
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>>388223627
The characters look like their artwork
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DAY 1 BUY
maybe if they get money they'll put in the budget these games deserve
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Looks like an improvement over the Adventures of Mana remake which was already pretty good.
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>>388226028
Is it worth doing it multiplayer?
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>>388226808
wait for the remake
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>>388225359
Not quite, some of the colours are off. But i get whatchu mean and i also think thats pretty rad.
I can forgive the colours thing since having a tiny map like that might make some things hard to notice
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They better get this fight right--music and all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPJgzbGwdyI
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The 3D remakes are always underwhelming. They take a beautiful classic 2D game and turn it into a low class polygon nightmare.

Maybe if it was on 3DS or Switch it would be cool as a cute little portable game, like FF3 and FF4, but not as a PS4 title.
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>>388227591
It's on the Vita which is fine enough for me.
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>>388224128
>have pre-order costumes ready, a release date ready and doing full advertising

There's no way this will get canned.
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>>388227591
Why the fuck does it matter? People who own a PS4 but not nintenbro want to play it, too. Stop being a butthurt retard just because it isn't on your precious nintendo consoles
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You fuckers buy this, so we can get Seiken Densetsu 3.
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>>388222449
>Using ugly as fuck IOS-tier polygon models
>Not using beautiful HD/UHD sprites
>Cringey voice acting

Not interested.
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>>388227919
Depends on whether the Vita version gets an LE or not. If it's digital only I'll probably skip it.
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>>388223496
they should either add some lighting or go for cell shading
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Christ the 3D is awful. I'm not just saying this through nostalgia goggles either. The only thing I'm looking forward to is the orchestrated music (if any).
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>>388222449

Bitch, dat tiger two piece. Preorder locked and loaded.
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>meanwhile outside of /v/ people are excited for this

Why is /v/ full of contrarian faggots?
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>>388228384
We see through the bullshit. The truth is rarely exciting.
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>>388228384
>other people have shit taste
Imagine the shock.
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Hope the iron out some of the fighting mechanics:

>Magic is OP early-mid game
>Even when you've got a shit ton of orbs for all of the weapons, there's no real point in using anything else but the sword/axe/spear as all other weapons do less damage, even at the same orb level
>No point in charging your attacks, it takes way too long and positioning the attack is tedious, crits are more reliable
>The combat flow chart is the same every fight: Randi hits, knocks down the enemy, Prim hits, Popoi hits, end with magic spam until dead.
>Leveling said weaponry and even magic is a grind
>A lot of the bosses are palette swaps, same for enemies
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>>388228381
>DUAL AUDIO
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>>388228384
You're only allowed to like one thing here.
The Adventures remake was already great. I already played the originals tons of times, i'll gladly play a new version
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>>388228526
But that's not true at all you faggot. It genuinely looks underwhelming.
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>>388228640
Well, that's like your opinion man
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>>388228718
And my opinion is right.
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>>388228640
Then don't buy it or pirate it or something instead of complaining about something that might've never happened anyway
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>>388228776
t. retard
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>>388228776
Ah yes good old /v/ objective opinions
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>>388223579

Doesn't the Switch have the original with SD3 included?
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>>388228820
Nobody is talking about sales though. It just looks underwhelming.
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>>388228384
/v/ fell for the Switch meme.
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>>388228943
Yes, but it most likely will never leave Japan
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>>388228514
I think melee should get changed from start to finish, its just a mess in the original.

Magic is fine but the ring menu shouldnt stop the game flow, ESPECIALLY not in multiplayer.
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>>388228718
His opinion is right though, I love Secret of Mana and it's one of the games I play at least once a year. I'm also buying this HD remake, but only because that's the only option the secret of mana fan has at the moment.

I'll buy it, but it does look like shit. Even if I can get past how Randi looks (prim and popoi look fine), nothing will change the fact that places like picture related will look shit in this overly saturated mess of an art direction.

I hate to throw out the word 'atmospheric', but that's what secret of mana was. I highly doubt they'll capture the same feeling.
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>>388228384
>file deleted
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>>388229237
Top of the industry artists worked on the original SD games. This is made by some hacks with minimal investment. Like the Death Note movie I'm currently watching
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You have to go back to Potatos
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>>388229237
Just because you personally agree with his opinion doesn't mean it is "right"

god, /v/ is full of fucking retards. Where did this country go so wrong? We need to do some serious investment in education.
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>>388229513
But there's only right and wrong opinions.
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>>388229513
All the same, just because you say he's wrong doesn't mean he's wrong. But what we can do is give you reasons why we formulated our opinion, and all you can do is nitpick and have an autistic shit-fit without bringing anything to the table.

Go fuck yourself.
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>>388229513

>/v/
>A country
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Looks fine to me and i'm excited for the music and maybe some balance fixes.
Though i wish SE would create some sort of AA budget remake division. For some reason they only have unlimited budget remakes like 7R or small budget remakes like AoM and SoM.
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>>388229676
Literally everything in your post was.. wait for it.. an OPINION. Not a FACT. There's nothing to bring to the table when someone bases their entire post on their subjective views of a particular thing. Get a clue, kiddo.
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>>388225153
actually according to one of the top people whos name escapes me, yeah.

He wanted to do remakes of 1-3, then work on 4.
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What is Mana's secret?
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>>388229774
The SaGa and Dragon Quest remakes for the DS were great. I'd like to see more games redone like that.
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>>388229828
That's cool, now close your tab and fuck off out of the thread, you've yet to give the following:

1) Why the new art direction looks good
2) Why it's a good thing to depart from the art direction of the original

If you're unwilling to focus on the meat of the discussion, then take your ball and go home fag.
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>>388223270
I already know its not the weird mishmash future magic world of Frontier but I'm happy hearing this
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>>388230040
Love
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>>388230234
Again, you seem to think that a conversation about personal opinions is somehow going to produce a conversation about objective facts. That simply is not the case. The issue of whether or not the art style is "better" or "worse" is pure opinion, not a matter of objective fact. You are never going to get an objective discussion to result from a conversation about subjective opinions.

This is why we need to do a better job of educating people. So embarrassing.
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>>388230237
Well, they're redoing Romancing SaGa 3 now, and hopefully they'll actually finish it this time
They already confirmed it's getting localized too, so there's plenty reason to be optimistic

If all goes well, and they actually patch in the missing plotlines and sidequests without issue, it's plausible that we may live long enough to see a port/remake of Frontier with Fuse's scenario intact
Just maybe though; don't get your hopes up
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>>388230687
Nah we'll never see a full proper henshin transformation for Alkaiser with his glorious theme trumpeting
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>>388224349

You're not alone. I played the game all the way through once and beat the final boss without properly understanding much at fucking all about it. The game doesn't take any time to explain the more obtuse gameplay mechanics at all, or how to pursue storylines you're interested in, or how the map even functions.

It's typical Squeenix bullshit, they pulled the same crap with TWEWY expecting you to somehow divine the perfect way to play it or otherwise look up a guide to get the best experience out of it. Wish I knew how most of the people who say LoM is their Favorite Game Ever experienced it because I just genuinely don't get it.
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>PS4 and Vita
SONY ALWAYS WINS BA-
>Also on PC

Secret of Mana has always been overrated.
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>>388227875
>People who own a PS4 but not nintenbro want to play it, too
Fake news.
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>>388222449
>Seiken Densetsu trilogy ported to Switch for way more than it was supposed to
>Suddenly, SoM is getting a remake, and not on the Switch
ffs
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I think it looks fine. I don't want a remake that takes them 10 years. The problem is the price and the preorder dlc. FUCK PRE ORDER DLC.
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>>388222767
>>388222948
>>388223042

Under aged as fuck and it shows, Secret of Mana was the biggest ARPG for the SNES, and paved the way for ARPGS to be a main stay genre. If you didn't own this as a kid on your SNES you were poor since games back then were expensive as fuck when they first came out, or a faggot for buying bing bing wahoo clone #400 instead of it. This game literally defined many peoples child hoods along side chrono trigger, FFIV and VI, Super Mario RPG, Super Mario World, Contra III, LoZ:LttP, Super Metroid, Donkey Kong Country, Castlevania IV, and Earthbound.
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>>388231465
We could already play the game on PC. This remake just doesn't look good.
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>>388224583
STOP
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Love the low-poly. I don't get why some peole are hating it.
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GOD TIER
Spear

HIGH TIER
Sword
Bow

MID TIER
Whip
Glove

LOW TIER
Boomerang

SHIT TIER
Javelin
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>>388224583
What's the meme here?
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>>388235698
it's bad
not everything is a meme, 9gag.
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>>388235698
>he hasn't played Heroes of Mana
You have no idea how lucky you are.
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>>388228943
Yes but it's JPN only and will never get translated
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>>388235892

How hard can it be for Square to simply use a fan translation? They did much more for rereleasing their older FF titles.
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>>388222449
I remember some one saying this is a game where some bird tries to impregnate you or sime shit
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>>388224960
You have no idea how excited I am that this meme might make a comeback
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>>388235472
SUPREME ELDER GOD TIER
Any attack magic
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>>388222449
The voice "acting" is fucking atrocious. Please for the love of god let us disable it.
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I'd be okay with this if they made the stamina recovery faster like in SD3. Fucking annoying.
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Can't wait to swap the voices to Japanese on the PC version.

Assuming I can't turn it off altogether, of course.
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the only sd3 team
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>>388237753
>duran
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Wow, they really shotafied the MC.
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>>388237787
What's wrong with sord man?
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>>388227479
>Dark Lich theme
Fuck yeah. Sucks that everyone jizzes themselves over Meridian Dance when this song exists.
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Step aside, posting the best "airship" music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrBh3fHZGRA
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>>388226759
It still looks like a bad 3ds game
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>>388222449
If it's not Hiroki Kikuta doing the soundtrack they can fuck right off.
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>not evermore

FUCKING DROPPED
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>>388232715
>Secret of Mana was the biggest ARPG for the SNES
Retard. It barely had any action to it, especially compared to the sequels that did away with its time-based attacking, and Tales of Phantasia was both a bigger success and had a more action oriented combat system.
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i want this game on my phone
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>>388232715
>According to Square Enix, as of February 2004, Secret of Mana had shipped 1.83 million copies worldwide, with 1.5 million of those copies being shipped in Japan and 330,000 abroad.
It is funny how you call others underage, and yet you clearly show you weren't around for the release of this game. It was a good game, but clearly not a widespread success.
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https://youtu.be/oWAG-FBePfE
Post a better song, I fucking dare you.
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>>388238351
It didn't have battle screens though, the combat was action (though admittedly slow due to the stamina feature) and everything was just out in the field, rather than Phantasia's battle screen type combat which felt inbetween SoM and older style RPGs.

Also Secret of Mana was still very well known in it's day (though I don't agree with others saying it was the biggest), shame the series petered off after the Legend of Mana game on PS1. Also sounds like the remake is going to adjust the gameplay to make it more modern, most likely fixing the annoying stamina shit.

I hope this leads into a remake of SD3 and Legend of Mana, but honestly LoM wouldn't work as a 3d remake due to its more "storybook" feel. Maybe give it to Vanillaware and see what they do with it.
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>>388238351
You're even more retarded than the people that anon replied to. SoM's sequel wasn't released outside of Japan, so yes SoM was the biggest SNES ARPG, and just because games had more action oriented combat doesn't mean SoM wasn't an ARPG. I would even argue that SoM had more in-depth combat, Tales of Phantasia often felt one dimensional.

>Tales of Phantasia was a bigger success
Holy shit nevermind you're just blatantly fucking retarded if you believe Tales of Phantasia was a bigger success. Super Famicom Secret of Mana literally sold 1 million more units in Japan alone, not even including it's global success.
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>>388238593
How underage are you? Video games weren't that big of a deal back then. 1.5 million copies was fucking hugely popular.
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>>388239610
>can't read that 1.5 was japanese numbers
330k for worldwide MANY years after the release anon... Outside of Japan it was a niche title. That is fine and all, but you are being a dumbass thinking that everyone owned the game back in the day when that clearly wasn't the case. You are trying to create a situation that didn't exist to try to prove you are older than you are.

>How underage are you?
I turned into a wizard this year.
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LIVE A LIVE REMAKE NEXT
C'MON SQUARE YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO
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>>388239610
Literally this, this was insane popularity for the SNES era, selling over 100,000 units outside of Japan was a big deal especially things related to swords, magic and typical fantasy settings as DnD and the like had gotten so stigmatized in the U.S.
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>>388240341
>Flower symbol

Is this a mod? Fuck you mod.
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>>388240426
:^)
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>>388227221
>Being this autistic
Anon...
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>>388224816
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>>388222449
>3DS graphics
>Not on 3DS
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>>388223627
>with PS2-level graphics.
This is below PS2 level.
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