Secret of Mana Remake for PS4

>>388187257
yuck

>>388187257
Looks awful. The terrible murrican voice acting doesn't help.

>>388187257
looks pretty cute

>not on switch
lol

>>388187915
>on Vita
>not on Switch
>not on Xxxbone in the west
I would go as far as to say Sony probably helped fund it.

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>>388187257
>Also available on PC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LXRCiKh78

>>388188408
>he plays non online non graphically intensive witg digitally downloaded copy

>>388187257
Who needs to see if there is an existing thread.
Not this OP, thats for sure

>>388187257
Jesus fuck the pixel art is 10X better

Is the classic version included somehow? I don't care if I have to unlock it.

Looks like a Nintendo DS game.

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The android version actually looks better than the PS4 version. HOW?

>>388189887
At least it's not the Final Fantasy ports

WAAAAAAAAH GRAPHICS

>>388189956
How many times did Final Fantasy Adventure/SoM1 get remade?
I feel like it was more than 3

>>388189972
They would have been better off just rom dumping the original.

This is the power of PS4.

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>>388187915
Doesn't the Switch already get that Mana collection of games?

You know, the one that's never coming out of japan because we're cursed never to have an official translation of Seiken Densetsu 3?

>>388187257
Wow 2d sprite was way better

>>388190229
this is the power of a game made for vita and then ported to everything else because vita games still sell well on the moon

>PS4

if you said it was for iOS i would actually believe you. SoM deserves better than this.

>>388190675
The Vita can do better.

>>388187257
Why is it exclusive? Was it always a Sony IP?

Ah yes, this is just what I wanted. Whiny American voices in my Japanese Role Playing Game and GOOD GRAFFIX removing those hideous and outdated sprites.

>>388187257
>That art

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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What is SE doing for Nintendo?

The only game that came out recently was I am Setsuna.

>>388193571
Switch already has the Collection

This looks horrible

>>388193571
Octopath traveller?

>>388193571
Octopus Traveller. There's that picross spinoff that'll probably make it over too.

SE are still wary of Nintendo since the end of the SNES/Beginning of the PSX days so while they'll put some new properties out, I don't think they'll ever trust Nintendo with an exclusive license to one of their bigger titles.

>>388192909
>GOOD GRAFFIX removing those hideous and outdated sprites.

Sarcasm? This is an improvement. That old shit is outdated.

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>>388187257
It actually looks like it might be okay
Sure it's hideous, but so was Adventures of Mana and that was a 1:1 copypaste of the original game down to stupid mechanics like keyrings

Going by that logic, this might just be the original with ugly 3D graphics with no gameplay changes, which would be fine since the original was fine
Costumes sound cute too, especially if you can dress up more than just the protag in more than just one costume, because Adventures got really lazy with that

But what's MOST most important is that it still has multiplayer, which is 100% the deciding factor on whether it's shit or not
if it doesn't, it's trash and there was no point to even remaking it

>>388189887
Aside from the HP/MP, PS4 version looks undeniably better.

Will this have online coop?

>>388190376
>because we're cursed never to have an official translation of Seiken Densetsu 3?
what's the reason for this again? was there reference to mass genocide or something like rape and alchoholic child abuse that made it never come stateside?

>>388187257
>vita

YES! Thank you ALLAH

>>388187257
oh look

its that generic as fuck mobile graphic design

>>388189887
>Snes/smartphones can render shadows
>PS4 cannot

>>388195782
Is S-E lazy choice you idiot.

>>388195843
Keep defending Sony you drone!

Shit I almost didn't click in this thread because I thought it was bait
It's not a 10/10 game to me but certainly it's one of the best action rpgs on the SNES

Now imagine if they do Chrono Trigger... that would be totally worth a fap even with this smartphone graphics.

>digital only
>that generic graphic
dropped.

>>388195782
neither can PC

>>388196113
I don´t have PS4, stop defending S-E.

honestly this game was made for the Vita. I'm glad they are releasing on PS4 though

>>388196113
What are you even inplying you idiot?

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>gen x kids will complain about the graphics in 3..2..1..

>>388196323
>>388196373
>the minimap is the background from the original

i'm mad

>>388196428
it does look like a shitty ps1 game tho

>LOCAL MULTIPLAYER: Yes! Sit down with two of your friends (up to three players) to experience the adventure together.

day 1 buy

>>388192759
It's like Sony is tapping into the mobile market by making deals to get mobile ports on their system. The sequel to the Steven Universe mobile game is also coming to PS4 for some damn reason. But these are most likely temporary exclusives, the Japanese trailer already mentions a steam version

>>388196428
The graphics are the only thing it has, if you are not interested in graphics then just get the SNES rom.

>>388196489
you guys spend the entire year complaining the industry spend 90% of resources on graphics and when a game has generic graphics you say it would be better to have cinematic photorealistic 4K 6 teraflops graphics

>>388192759
>Why is it exclusive?
it's not, it's coming to steam
obviously the playstation youtube channel isnt going to advertise the steam release

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>>388187257
Y'all should be supporting games like this.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that pretty stylistic low-poly games are cheaper to produce than multi-million dollar AAA titles and I like the look of them MORESO than the super realistic ones.

I would be a very happy man to see ambitious creative budget games that go with this kind of look. I think that they can afford to make games like this and not be concerned with having to sell millions to make a profit.

>>388196580
>he doesn't like voice acting
>he doesn't like Compile Hearts budget-tier tier graphics
I really want they to remake Secret of Mana 3. That would be my dream.
By making this series more popular again they could potentially release a great game and we can finally forget about dawn of mana
>>388196580

I'm almost certain this game will be released on mobile in japan

>>388187257
>DLC costum
>my sides

>>388196593
you don't need "cinematic photorealistic 4K 6 teraflops graphics" for a game to look good
It's just that from the screens the art direction was poorly made
People complained about I am Setsuna graphics but the art direction was good.

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Tell me how not to get angry over things like this
this literally makes me do things to her that I'll be banned and probably on FBI list if I say
Holy shit I'm angry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQbM6hlBQ1s

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>>388196593
Graphics don't matter but presentation does. It's about being smart with your limits, not amping up the pixel count

>>388196976
>People complained about I am Setsuna graphics
Only here and I bet the people were ironic. The graphics in Setsuna are great. I wish they made a Setsuna tier on Secret of Mana remake but probably they outsourced the port to some mobile japanese company and they want to make a quick cash or maybe see if another secret of mana game would sell.

>>388187257
Looks like a mobile game.

>>388197006
wow another beta-farming attention whore, who gives a shit

>>388197237
that attempt at crying is worth at least 5 years in a labor camp

>>388189972
Welcome to /v/

>>388189972
It's a fucking remake retard.

Complaints about graphics are perfectly legit since they didn't change anything else.

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>>388187257
the ps4 version is on psn, but I don't see the vita version
I was thinking of preorderig but are these cross buy? I mainly just want it on vita

>>388197328
Didn't even watch that far
Eh whatever, the internet is full of these self-absorbed beta-farmers, not much you can do about it except call them what they are

Remake instead of Secret of Mana 2............ FUCK THIS NEW TREND, who the fuck wants to play the old story again.

>>388197638
>Secret of Mana 2
dumb ass

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>>388187257
Reminds me of Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World.

>more oldfag remakes

WHO CARES

Seiken Densetsu 3 when?

>>388197638
there were many sequels in this series
just most never came west

>>388197881
Never. Nintendo is not even bringing the collection to the west. They could pay like 10k to the fan translators and bring it. Everyone would be happy.

>>388196446
Why? I really like it.

Just wonder if this will be the story they wanted to tell because the original Secret of Mana was never released to the public due yo Sony and Nintendo never working together for the CD add-on. Anyone who knows the history of the game around 40% to 60% Was gutted out to fit on a cart.

>>388197963
daily reminder Legend of Mana is the best Mana game

I'm just glad it got a remake. The new graphical overhaul doesn't bother me at all, and has objectively made the game better. there's always the choice to play the android version, and emulate the old SNES one for the "muh spriteszzz" autists.

>>388197975
my point

why the ugly 3D when pixel art in HD is always better

>>388197971
How the fuck is Nintendo fault?

Not their game

>>388198057
>pixel art in HD is always better.
>always

God, no.

>>388198038
>The 3d remake is the complete game
>it has everything missing from the SNES release
Sony is getting revenge

>>388198057
As long as the gameplay stays as good I think it's a nice way to replay the game. I mean the trailer has cutscenes too so I'm interested to know what they'll do with the game. It's better than just hd pixels in my opinion if you've played the game a lot already.

>>388198040
>best mana game
Yeah, best at starting the downfall of the mana series. SD3 was the last good game of the series then everything went to shit.

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>>388198046
>. The new graphical overhaul doesn't bother me at all
agreed,
Adventures of Mana had the same style
it was real nice in motion, and the enemy design worked very well with this art
but that was on vita, my only concern is if it'll still work on ps4, blown up on screen

>The developers initially resisted continuing the project without the CD add-on, believing that too much of the game would have to be cut, but they were overruled by company management. As a result of the hardware change, several features had to be cut from the game, and some completed work needed to be redone.[25][28] Most major of these removals was the option to take multiple routes through the game that led to several possible endings, in contrast to the linear journey in the final product.[8] The plot that remained was different than the original conception, and Tanaka has said that the original story had a much darker tone.[25] Ishii has estimated that up to forty percent of the planned game was dropped to meet the space limitations, and critics have suggested that the hardware change led to technical problems when too much happens at once in the game.[25][30] In 2006, Level magazine claimed that Secret of Mana's rocky development was Square's main inspiration to move their games, such as the Final Fantasy series, from Nintendo consoles to Sony consoles in 1996.[25]
http://www.webcitation.org/6O5P2KkWu?url=http://www.1up.com/features/classics-column-1-desperately-seeking

>Legend of Mana is my favorite Mana game
>it will always live in Secret's shadow
i hate this

>>388198040
>>388198204
LoM was something between good to mediocre, Dawn of Mana was the one that finally killed the series.

The original was a tremendous letdown given its reputation, so I hope the remake includes all of the removed content.
>>388198241

>take source material
>make it look worse but computationally more expensive
>add awful voice acting
>destroy any bit of atmosphere and charme the original game had
>try to sell it for money
Probably gets 40k sales and then fades into obscurity like all those awful rehashes.

>>388198398
Maybe SE will simply copy and paste the original game in the smartphone engine they used for rise of mana :(
No new content :(

>>388198453
Square Enix while back when they were talking about the final fantasy adventure said if the game sold well enough they would remake the other mana games as well. So this is enough proof that the remaster version of SD1 sold well enough, so kind doubtful it's only going anywhere.

>>388198565
That's almost guaranteed, but a man can dream. It's coming to PS4 so they're putting in "some" effort, right?

>>388198565
eh, no. the trailer obviously shows that it will use the Adventures of Mana engine.

>>388187257
>Regarded as one of the best RPGs of all time
>wooops, whah s'a sword doin'ere?
Was the plot this idiotic in the original or are they dumbing it down so double IQ plebs can play it too?

Looks cute as fuck. I would have gotten it on switch.

>>388198647
I wish the boss at Sony cared about video games
he would literally send a message to SE right now demanding the release to include extra content

>>388193571
Octopath Traveler, DQ Builders 2, DQ XI and FFXV (teased by Tabata)

>>388198749
The plot in the original made no sense because they had to cut almost half of it for space reasons.

Art looks fine, just needs shading.

>>388198816
>The plot in the original made no sense because they had to cut almost half of it for space reasons.

wasn't it also poorly translated?

>>388198749
not really, the original also had simple plot if you try to break it down. simple, but effective.

>>388198320
Never been a fan of legend but will always admit it has a solid OST and good looking graphics. Other than everything else fell flat on the face, biggest let down was the magic system which was useless.

Meh, gonna preorder it.

>>388198986
kek what a stupid fucking cunt

>>388198843
It was because pretty square tossed it at a English translator and told him he had a month to finished it. He also didn't get the script as well so everything was done pretty spot on.

sigh, do I have to spoon feed you idiots about what happened behind the scenes during the translation of the original?

http://www.hardcoregaming101.net/localization/localization2.htm

http://www.playeronepodcast.com/forum/index.php?/topic/145-transcript-of-ted-woolsey-interview/

http://squarehaven.com/people/Ted-Woolsey/?interview=44

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>>388199048
>told him he had a month to finished it.
40 days
40 DAYS
CHRIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>388198749
>having a simple story is bad

not all rpgs have to be xenogears, you fuckwit

Dragon Quest games are well regarded of being some of the best RPGs ever

and most of them have a pretty simple and straight-forward plot

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>Final Fantasy adventure remake aesthetic
>no one complains
>this is the same, but better visuals all around
>complaints

Remember when people were saying the Switch is the only place for these games to go LOL. Told you dumb fucks that games don't need a high budget to go on any console.


If this was on the Switch, this would be getting a lot less complaints.

I get the feeling they're gonna fuck up remixing Meridian Dance and The Oracle.
A Wish, Crystal Forest is also an important song

>>388187257
Looks like it's the same engine as adventure on mana on mobile which is a pretty cool remake by itself.

>>388187257
KEK, and some retards ask me why i hate this generation and love retrogaming

>>388199217
I still get angry when I remember about the nihilism in xenogears and that as a young innocent person I bought the nihilistic meme

>>388198986
who is the chick?

>>388199217
Not saying otherwise. Simple can be fine too, but the presentation in that trailer is pretty retarded, you can't deny that.

>>388199256
Switch owners are forever cucked this generation. It keeps getting more and more ridiculous.
SMT5 next??

>>388199256
i don't get it either, im stoked

but everyone is just bashing it

>it doesn't look like the SNES version

go play that instead, its free to play in any resolution and filters you desire

or if you are a retard, you can go ahead and find it on the Virtual Console

>>388199405
a prostitute

>>388199442
not that anon, the only thing that kinda ruined it is the English voice acting, the japanese one is fine though. buy the PC version and wait for the jap voice patch. or i hope squeenix includes dual-audio

>>388187257
Secret of Mana has aged like a corpse in a dungeon. The gameplay and interface are terrible.

>>388187257
i'll take what I can get for the series to be not kill.
make sure to buy it /v/ros

>>388199525
what's the point of voice acting if you don't understand?
>dude learn japanese
Also even the lowest english voice actor is better than the best spanish and french

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>>388199506
Same here anon, already preorder the collector edition for ps4 and vita

>>388199601
>what's the point of voice acting if you don't understand?
with english subtitles.

>>388199594
DO IT

I WANT FUCKING SEIKEN DENSETSU 3

>>388199649
YOU CAN'T HIDE FOREVER

>>388199442
i don't think its retarded at all

its a children's game, and he found a sword down by the river

you dont need a fuckin wordy and verbose intro to show that

>>388199658
>with english subtitles.
just play the SNES version then.
English voice acting is always better than not having a voice acting at all except for a few obsessed purists.
>>388199709
This. Secret of Mana audience target was lower than Final Fantasy.

>>388199663
YOU BETTER FUCKING BUY IT TOO DON'T BE A PIRATING PKEK

>>388197006
is that the i love cats cunt?

>>388199594
I"m not buying anything until Square stops dodging the Switch.

>>388187257
>PC
Good.

>PS4
Eh... ok.

>Vita
Android-level game incoming.

I lost any interest.

>>388199762
>English voice acting is always better than not having a voice acting at all except for a few obsessed purists.
lol, i thought you were the one complaining about the English voice-acting. it bothers me a bit, but it doesn't really ruin the game for me.

>>388199884
Square Enix fixed Kingdom hearts and FF XV. They are redeemed.

JUST


Give me a Seiken Densetsu 3 Remake goddamid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUj41wsugx8

>>388199762
>English voice acting is always better than not having a voice acting at all except for a few obsessed purists.

Holy shit this

Most of you faggots don't even speak nip, and don't realize how over-acted and cringey japanese VAs can be

>bitch about that he sounds like hes older than 10 years old

>get mad when someone doesn't wanna hear a loud obnoxious grandma voice Goku

>>388198749
How is that idiotic? It only makes sense for the character to ask that question, he literally just found a sword sticking out of a random rock near the waterfall he just fell down.

>>388199937
No i was actually quoting you or the guy who said JP voice acting with english subtitles are better than english voice acting
English is a language that literally fits video game and movies even if the voice actor/actress is bad.

>>388187257
Never played this before so I'm pretty excited. Just hope the gameplay hasn't been changed at all.

>>388199884
I guess Switch owners are this gens cancer.

>>388200060
>English is a language that literally fits video game and movies even if the voice actor/actress is bad.
that is objectively not true. especially if the source material is not from somewhere where english is the spoken language.

>>388199992
They haven't fixed FF15. They haven't redeemed crap.

>>388199884
Nintendo hasn't had third party support for consoles in 20 years. Switch isn't a replacement for 3DS.

>>388200146
https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2017/08/25/secret-of-mana-3d-remake-launches-february-2018-for-ps4-ps-vita/

>>388199887
>Vita
Oh, so that's why it looks so weak. This was just a Vita game getting repurposed now that it's dead.

>>388200146
you have never played before, but you expect them not to change the gameplay? how would you judge if they did?

>>388200167
>that is objectively not true
It is. English is the only acceptable voice for video games. Tell me 1 game which has voice acting from other language that is good

>>388200056
Goku's Japanese voice is a far better fit, not only because of the quality of the character but also because it actually has a country bumpkin accent and light pitch fits with Goku's loose monkey persona. But of course sub100 iq plebs will go with the retard-sounding voice which butchers the character because it sounds slightly weird to them.

>>388187257
They would have to change the ending.
I've never been more angry at an ending before in my life.

>>388193967
Stop talking out of your ass and show me proof that anyone at Squeenix feels this way.

>>388200313
Its still a Vita game though.
This is also on the Mobile engine they made for Adventure of Mana.

I'm still laughing how people thought the Switch would replace the Vita lmao.

>>388200313
adventures of Mana was a solid game, though. and this just used the engine for it and have objectively made improvements.

also, is this some kind of meme that every game that gets a vita port will be considered dead or shit?

>>388200146
>never played it before
>hope the gameplay hasn't been changed

man, you must be some real special case of stupid.

how bout you do yourself a fuckin favor and play the game

you got till February to stop being such an insufferable faggot

>>388200482
>spoiling yourself the game
Don't do this

>>388200447
>adventures of Mana was a solid game, though. and this just used the engine for it and have objectively made improvements.
Did that lack shadows as well?

>also, is this some kind of meme that every game that gets a vita port will be considered dead or shit?
The conclusion comes from its library and sales.

>>388200426
Square hasnt made a main series title for the Nintendo wince Bravely Default, which was budget as fuck and a mobile tier game.

>>388190084
The GBA remake was great
The most recent was though was fucking shit

>>388200553
There's nothing to spoil. Secret of Mana is a mediocre action RPG with a who-cares plot.

>>388200558
>do that lack shadows as well?
Do you even speak English?

The Vita has a good library though, and more games than the Switch will probably get in its lifetime.
>sales = quality
Nintendo fans are so fucking cancer, holy fuck.

>>388200396
Not him but some (very rare) japanese voice acting are better than english... I don't understand japanese but in some rare cases a japanese voice actor gives personality better than english actors
Those cases are rare. English voice acting (specially women) are always better because even very ugly awful fat american landwhales have good voice.
From like 10 (when I started playing games) to 20 I never bothered to see what the voice actress looked like and I was amazed to see many cute and sweet voice girls were actually really ugly

>>388200045
It's most likely going to happen next year

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>>388199884
Switchfags are fucking cancer. Here's your Square support faggot.

>remake game
>make it look worse than the original
Every time.

>>388200313
>Oh, so that's why it looks so weak. This was just a Vita game getting repurposed now that it's dead.

more like it's just a snes game getting upgraded graphics.

>>388200558
>Did that lack shadows as well?
the original didn't have any to begin with
>The conclusion comes from its library and sales.
>library of games and the sales of a system will determine the overall quality of a game
now i'm not defending the vita, but never have i read someone post something so retarded.

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>>388200396
no thanks, i like my ears

i will stick to english dub, fuck your retarded country bumpkin bullshit and monkey persona

i just dont want the most powerful being in the world sound like an 80 year old grandma

its not my fault they decided not to re-cast goku as an adult

>>388200659
You're the only one talking about Nintendo here. I'm merely stating the fact that Vita games are kusoge for bottom of the barrel otaku and its sales reflect that.

>>388200810
Keep telling yourself that Nintendo cuck.

>>388200810
>muh sales
So the Wii U was shit then?

>>388196673
I agree, the pursuit for graphics killed systems gaming libraries. Look at the PS2 compared to the PS3. Since much more effort was needed to get games to look good enough for release less games were released. Some of them went overbudget and the whole studio shut down because of it.

>>388200553
>spoiling a game that came out over 20 years ago

/v/ is really raising the bar on retards today

>>388199884
>shitch
Cry more shitendo noob hijo de puta!

>>388200879
Not everyone with an objective point of view is your boogeyman, anon.

>>388200889
Absolutely. A 5 games machine. And the Switch has fuck all so far.

Why are people talking about the Switch here, fuck off

>>388201031
because it's another game that is missing the switch
Third-party promise was a lie

>>388200810
I currently have a decent collection of Vita games, a better career than you will ever have, a girlfriend, and a better future, while being handsome and fit. I'm not even close to Otaku, and I play edf and soul sacrifice with my girlfriend.

Who are you to judge an entire library and generalize? You sound like a genuine faggot that needs to get slapped.

>>388190376
>You know, the one that's never coming out of japan

Just buy the Japanese version. The Switch is region-free.

>>388200993
Whats objective about the generalization of an entire library you never played?

>>388187257
why remake a game when the remake is worse? i will never understand it

>>388201031
https://twitter.com/Wario64/status/900989424204304384

Because Switch owners are the new port beggers of the gen.

>>388201073
based pasta poster

i was expecting a comfy SoM thread were fans would discuss about it because SE finally had the balls to do a remake. But it quickly became shitposting central between spritefags, muh shadowfags, underages, switchcucks and literally people who have never played the original at all.

>>388200676
that's a phone game

>>388201223
Don't deny my reality.

>>388187257
ill probably get it on the vita.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFCphZs3YQ0

>>388201273
But not Vitards, right? Yeah.

>>388201273
"spritefags"? the original game looks a thousand times better. it's not an opinion, it's a fact.

>>388201298
So is this. Adventures of Mana is a literal phone game and this is a sequel to that.

>>388189887
>Completely empty void background
>Entities don't cast shadows
>Why the fuck is there a minimap
>That disgusting UI

>>388201140
dude, the WiiU was trash

faggots like you act like we are being unfair, but we really aren't

face the cold hard truth

The WiiU sucked fat cocks.

and he's right about the Switch, it doesn't have fuck all games to give a shit about.

>>388201361
It does look better but it doesn't mean generic Compile Heart graphics are a bad thing
I personally liked it

>>388201408
>and this is a sequel to that.

.... they are not connected

>>388201418
The Switch is Wii U 2 still in its honeymoon phase

>>388201351
Steam isn't PC, it's a console

>>388195489
It was a very late SNES game, Nintendo was already pushing forward with the N64 in the west and Square was basically done with Nintendo at that point since they were joining the Sony bandwagon. Same reason we didn't get a lot of Japanese games around that time.

>>388187257


It unironically looks like an indie early access game.

Why?

>>388190675
No, it's a mobile game that they decided not to release on mobile because no one wanted to pay 16 USD for Adventure of Mana. It's the same recycled engine.

>>388201504
Sequel as in it's the next Mana series remake in the same engine

>>388201361
>i hate this! so m-my opinion is fact!
>they changed it, now it sucks!
i have attachments to the original, but i'm not delusional as to judge it even before playing it. go play the original then, no one is really forcing you to buy this.

>>388201418
>and he's right about the Switch, it doesn't have fuck all games to give a shit about.
>BotW
>MK8D
>Arms
>Splatoon 2
>Mario Odyssey
>Xenoblade 2
>and later it'll have Yoshi, Kirby, Metroid and Pokemon
sure thing kid, now get off the computer because the school bus will be here soon

>>388189887
It really doesn't

>>388187257
Ugly as shit. I'm gonna puke.

I just want the old trilogy.

>>388196673
I'm all for bringing back PS1-style retro graphics, but this is a remake of Secret of Mana. If they aren't going to update the graphics to something impressive then why bother doing it at all?

>>388201621
>I just want the old trilogy.

Buy a Switch then, playa.

>>388201612
>calling someone a kid while playing on a literal children's tablet, listing games played by a children demographic
Hahahaha.

And he said games to give a shit about. I like how you list games that aren't out assuming they will be worth fuck all. Even BOTW is a mediocre disappointment.

It's like looking at people taking a shit on your childhood.

Rationally, I shouldn't be *that* distressed, the original is still there for me to play, but it really hurts just looking (and hearing, god damn it I hate the illiterate crowd that made VO a mandatory feature of modern games).

>>388193571
The collection of Mana games that is far better than this shit remake
Dragon Quest X
Dragon Quest XI
Dragon Quest Heroes I+II
Dragon Quest Builders 2
Octopath Traveller (new game from Bravely Default team)

>>388201612
>The next game in all your favorite Nintendo series and a gimmick fighter no one cares about
The Wii U had just about all of those as well as things like Smash. Heck, BotW and MK8 are literal Wii U games.

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Old thread is almost dead, so I'll post this here.

The quotes (" ") are for things I tried to reason based on syntax and what little I know about jap and sentence structure (also logic, but that one doesn't always apply based on Jap slang). The asterisks (*) are for things I'm kinda certain on (i.e. looked up info), but may not be 100% right, except in some cases. Everything else is machine-translated via google.

I have no idea what the fuck the last post's sentence means. What DID he mean by this?

>>388201759
Sorry I don't speak Japanese

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>>388187257
I need more Purim

>>388201789
>the illiterate crowd that made VO a mandatory feature of modern games

Agreed. One of the worst things to happen to games, imo. Use that money to improve umportant stuff about your game instead.

>>388201806
Aren't all of those old ass ports?

>>388196673
I generally really don't mind graphics like this. Usually. But in this case? The original games had some of the best visuals of its era. This? Not so much.

>>388201742
between realistic-esque ffxv-tier art/graphical style versus cutesy pseudo low-poly 3d?

i'd pick the latter, honestly. it's the closest one that matches the sprites of yesteryear.

>Transition to 3D
>Didn't change the size of the areas whatsoever

I also really hate how you can barely tell how short Popoi is.

>>388201612
>>Arms
>>Splatoon 2
This is why you get bullied, you know. Well, besides the outright denial of a mediocre library and elevating the worst entries of long running series as some sort of golden standard, like 3D World. Splatoon is about as a big of a meme as it gets.

>>388201823
The Wii U had more actually. Nintendo funded bayonetta 2 and a few other games, the Switch is literally running on Wii U ports. The first original Switch game, ARMs is COMPLETE shit.

>>388201612
>>388201773
could you guys stop the console war please?
I'll post a voice clip of my girlfriend if you do

>>388201868

>Octopath Traveller (new game from Bravely Default team)
>new game
>new game
>new game

Yes, they are all ports of old games, anon.

>>388200246
>Switch isn't a replacement for 3DS
>literally has mainline Pokémon and Fire Emblem coming to it
>not a 3DS replacement
"Switch is a home console" fags should just kill themselves desu.

>>388187257
is this real life

>>388201806
Octopath traveller visually looks like fucking shit.
Unless they make the art and animation not look like rancid garbage, I'm gonna have a hard time playing it.

Blame the Vita
Just fucking bury this dead piece of shit already

>>388201952
It will probably be ported elsewhere. No one owns a Switch.

Literally the only excuse for a SoM remake is if they're including all the shit that was cut out from the original and making it the game it was supposed to be. A 1:1 remake with 3D graphics like Adventure of Mana is stupid.

I'll post a voice clip of my girlfriend if you guys stop the console war
I'm serious. I'll make her record right now
I might even post a pic of her because she is a dumb whore

>>388201868
XI, Builders 2 and OT are all new games.

>>388188408
>>388187257
>Steam
PC ALWAYS WINS BABY

>>388201960
So Nintendo is out of the console market?
Fire emblem is on their consoles too though and its a shit warriors game.

The pokemon game is going to be shit, they even said to lower your expectations.

>>388201612
>WiiU port
>WiiU port
>dead gimmick game
>literally the same game as the 1st
>Mario Odyssey
>lmao lets just forget Xenoblade Chronicles X happened

>and later it'll have the same boring rehashed shit

I'll give you Mario Odyssey cuz that actually looks like fun, but you are delusional

I might even give Metroid Prime 4, cuz i like the first game a lot. Echoes was ok. Didn't care for corruption.

>>388201353
Well yeah. Vita owners seem to be the only ones okay with this. There are a few "I'll get it for my Vita" posts in the thread and every other post about the Vita is complaining that it's a Vita port.

>>388187257
does Square Enix really want to only make remakes of their older games now?

That's great and all but will it fix the stupid pausing the game does anytime you go into the menu to cast a spell and use items? Because that was the biggest annoyance of the original. It completely broke the flow of the game and made it far less actiony than it should have been.

>>388202016
post a picture or else i'll summon the xbots next

>>388202016
>I might even post a pic of her because she is a dumb whore
Why are you with her then?
THE MULTIPLAYER CAN'T BE -THAT- GOOD ANON

>>388201968
They need to get rid of the weird lighting, but otherwise it's fine, it's the kind of thing I'd expect from the BD team.

>>388201973
The Vita had nothing to do with the original mobile engine being made retard.
Kill the Switch for being the new shit console.

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>3D

>>388202104
yes, because every time they try to make something new it ends up being dumpster fire

>>388202143
>Why are you with her then?
I will leave her in a few days. I'm just helping her financially because she lost her job

>>388202030

I don't know if win is a term in that case.
And Steam has been a loss all unto itself.

>>388202023
Those are all on the PS4 and in better resolution and framerate...

>>388196428
>Timothy's Dunce Hat
>In HD

What a time to be alive

>>388201806
>The collection of Mana games that is far better than this shit remake

yeah, reselling a gameboy rom and 2 SNES roms is such a fuckin treat.

not like i can play either on my computer, tablet or phone for fuckin free

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>>388202104
I'm fine with this. We get Romancing SaGa 2 and 3 after two decades.

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>>388202219
SHUT THE FUCK UP SONYFAG DONT LAUGH AT ME IM TRYING TO COPE WITH HL3 CONFIRMED DEATH

>>388202280
is the vita version a remake?

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>>388201594
Don't be silly anon, you can judge something based on how it looks because it's there clear as day in the screenshots. Here's your (You)!

>>388201942
>>388202089
what you idiots fail to realize is that it's ONLY THE FIRST FUCKING YEAR FOR THE SWITCH
It literally has one of the best launch line-ups ever, go ahead and try to prove me wrong faggots

>>388202321
We all knew it was dead long ago, you drama queen.

>>388202083
Nintendo's been out of the home console market for years. The Switch is just a handheld with HDMI-out
There's an actual Fire Emblem game releasing next year, lad, and FE has been a handheld series for the last 10 years.
That "don't raise your expectations too high" statement is for the cunts that want every new Pokémon game to have like 7 different regions and have other unrealistic expectations.

>>388202280
I'd rather play the original version than some shitty remake

>>388190635
2D sprites have always been better. Where the fuck have you been?

>>388202389
KILL YOURSELF GABE NEWELL I DIDNT DESERVE THIS

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>>388187257
>Seiken Densetsu 3 was one of the most beautiful SNES games
>now this
I can't even

>>388201973
You just mad because a 5 year old handheld will get a game and you wangleshit tablet paperweight dont

>>388202275
If you're going to pay any money for Secret of Mana then I'd rather have a nice collection of the games than a shitty iOS game.

>>388200316
I'm on a message board on the internet. I'm going to see an outcry if they have changed the gameplay.
>>388200482
Why would I play the original game when a (potentially) superior version is being released in 6 months? I'm still going to play it even if the gameplay has changed.

>>388202083
Yeah. They were sneaky about it since they still prop up the Switch as a console you can move away from the TV, but in reality they only have two handhelds now. And soon the Xbox division of Microsoft will die and they'll only be making PC games for Windows. The PS5 is going to be the ONLY console next generation.

>>388202368
>It literally has one of the best launch line-ups ever

>1 2 Switch
>Bomberman R
>BotW

yeah, truly a line-up to be remember for the ages

>>388202516
BotW is goty tho

>>388202368
>It literally has one of the best launch line-ups ever
I love the switch but hat's not true

>>388202485
But the iOS game is superior

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>>388202470
Angela a best

>>388202368
When you literally abandon your previous console, release no fucking games for it, and use most of its dry time to develop Switch shit, what do you expect?

The Switch would have nothing if it wasn't for Wii U ports. Even Splatoon 2 is already a giant rehash. Is the PS4 good because it has PS3 ports too?

There's not a single worthwhile exclusive on the Switch right now, and Mario won't change that.

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What did he mean by this?

>>388196673
>low-poly

This is the problem. They never look good at all. They should have made it with super hi-res sprites instead. It would look better, age better, and feel more like the original.

>>388202589
I bought a Wii U expecting 3DS ports
I didn't buy a Switch because I know there won't be 3DS ports either
Truly we are living in the dark ages of Nintendo :(

>>388202631
Did you say melon to him? That'll do it.

>>388202551
You mean most overhyped game of the year that has zero good content.

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>>388202368
>It literally has one of the best launch line-ups ever
cannibalizing from the previous console games isnt what i would call a good launch line-up

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>>388187257
fuck you! i liked it!

>>388196673
The issue isn't the style, it's just way worse visually than the original in this case. If it was a brand new IP people would not be shitting all over it.

>>388202492
man, you mom must've ear-fucked you retarded

Why would you wait, when you can play the original in all its classic glory for free on nearly any device?

but you don't have to answer that, i know logic aint your strong suit

>>388202193
And every time they remake something old it also ends up being a dumpster fire.

>>388202275
At the very least they put some care into the collection.

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>Do a next gen 3D remake in 2018
>Design it for PS Vita, which is a buffed up PS2, 2001 hardware at best
>mfw

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>>388202345
>>388202412
They're enhanced ports. The backgrounds are redrawn in high resolution and the UI is redone to be touch friendly, but the sprites are all original (boss sprites have some extra animation now in the style of Imperial SaGa). RS2 even had some bonus content, but otherwise it's the same as the original. It's not like that hideous FF6 mobile port.

>>388202660
It's fine if you think it isn't GOTY, but you don't have to make yourself look utterly butthurt stating it.

>>388202368
>develop nothing but 3DS shovelware and Wii U shovelware, with ONE Zelda game for over two fucking years
>use that time to make another Wii U

Seriously? Repackaging consoles under new brands constitutes a good launch lineup?

Even Xenoblade 2 wouldnt be possible without X's engine and assets, which is why it looks rushed.

>>388202740
Why should he play outdated trash and become a cynical fuck who complains about everything?

>>388202740
You must be 18 or older to post here.

>>388202785
making it all smooth and removing all character and charm is not "enhanced"

>>388202801
I own the game, it isn't even in my top 10 games played this year. Its boring as fuck.

>>388202780
Vita is ps3 hardware. 3ds is under ps2

>>388202785
Good lord this looks like shit. Reminds me of the default RPGMaker sprites.

>>388202558
>>388202687
>>388202813
BotW alone shits on almost every other console launch, go ahead and look them up if you don't believe me. Doesn't change the fact that it's still only the first year for the Switch and there are plenty of games that cater to different tastes.

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>re-release great cult game as it was
>OMG WTF PAYING FOR ROMS!

>re-release great cult game with updated graphics
>OMG WTF GRAPHIX WHORE SHIT ORIGINAL WAS LI-TE-RAL-LY PERFECT!
There's no winning with you idiots, and that's why developers/publishers don't care what you have to say.

>>388202874
Character and charm isn't conveyed in sprites, sorry to say. I think you're just retarded and want nostalgia.

>>388202874
What character and charm was removed

>the games that would actually be interesting to see fully redone with state of the art visuals and hardware power
>are the games that only get low effort plain 3d revamps
>meanwhile the game that already had 3d graphics is the one that's getting all the effort into being made even more 3d!
Fuck. And while not Square Enix. Don't even get me started on Shadow of the Colossus being remade. Again.

>>388202907
The Vita is between PS2 and PS3. Every PS3 game is downgraded and has framerate issues.

>>388202756
oh yeah, all the care they went into putin 3 roms and some art for you to look at

they didn't even bother with online multiplayer because they cared too much

>>388200562
You've never played BD. Fuck off.

>>388202785
what's the best version of Final Fantasy VI?

>>388202907
>Vita is ps3 hardware.
It's really not. It never was. I wish that it was, but no.
The Switch is though.

>>388202801
not him but the fact garbage like Dragon Age Inquisition holds GOTY should make you realize that being called GOTY is an empty accomplishment, also it makes you seem insecure that you need the reassurement of other people to believe a game you like is good

>>388202713

I didn't. At least someone on the tems had its heart in the right place.
Game was trying to do new things with the *gameplay*.

I hear they rebalanced the US release compared to the original JP one. Should probably give it a look to see what changed..

>>388202972
maybe it's for the best, yea?

>>388202972
It should be left alone.

>>388202954
Botw isnt even a Switch game, it was held back for the Switch. Good thing most devs aren't retarded like Nintendo.

The first year for the Switch is shit.

>>388202785
>redraw backgrounds in high resolution
>keep sprites low res
Why the absolute fuck would they do that? That's something a shit tier indie game would do.

>>388202819
>calling a classic SNES game outdated trash
>calls other cynical

do you sometimes forget to breath?

>>388202992
>Shadow of the Colossus being remade. Again.
The PS3 version is shit though. The game really deserves a definitive version. It's a work of art

>>388203034
SNES with Brave New World mod

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>>388202780
>"vita is a failure because it doesn't get games!"
>gets games
>"why are you making games for the vita??"

>>388202412
I thought the RS2 remake was actually well-received, unlike SE's recent abominations being passed off as remakes.

>>388202998
>framerate issues
No.

>>388202907
>Vita is ps3 hardware.
LOL

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>>388203084
Yeah redrawn sprites would be much better

>>388202907
Vita is not even close to PS3
The GPU is comparable to Xbox Huge & the CPU is slower than N3DS

It's trash

>>388203086
>ports add more content and better translations
>and rebalancing
>You: "m-muh ted wooley meme localizations..."

>>388203171
Vita has a better library than PS3

>>388202492
>when a (potentially) superior version
>(potentially)

Anon, in all serious, just play the original. I can promise you that the gameplay won't be unchanged (which is a weird request if you've never played it anyway), and that it has about a 5% chance of actually being better in any way. I'm not one of the typical /v/ cynics and I like to keep an open mind on most things. And this might be fine, but it has an extremely slim chance of being better than the original.

>>388203140
It was, primarily because RS2 was more beloved than even Final Fantasy in its day and also because it was outsourced to a company that knew what it was doing.

>>388203046
Switch is quite beyond PS3/360, but still far away from Xbone

If SOMR was designed for Switch it would actually have fucking lighting & shadows

Its not fair,

I have OCD and for the past year, I've made it a rule for myself that after I beat chrono trigger, secret of mana would be the next game I beat, So I tried playing through the ios version and I couldn't get past the witch so I decided to put it on hold and started playing grandia for ps1, I was loving it, but Im near the end now and that OCD is still forcing me to finish secret of mana before I finished any other game and that was about a year ago, so for the past year, I've been trying to beat SoM,


IM NOT CRAZY!!!, secret of mana
YOUR THE ONE WHOS CRAZY!!!, secret of mana
YOUR DRIVING MR CRAZY!!!, secret of mana.

They stuck me playing Secret of Mana
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

For the first few months I tried, to do it on the Ios version, but it was way too hard and I hated the inteface, so after half a year of playing, I stopped, downloaded an emulator and decided to play through that instead. I just keep thinking of Grandia,
So im making my way very slowly half way through and then the save file corrupted and now I have to start at the begging for the 6th fucking time. I just want to play Grandia and my back log keeps getting bigger and Im not enjoying myself.
ALL I WANTED WAS TO PLAY GRANDIA.


IM NOT CRAZY!!!, secret of mana
YOUR THE ONE WHOS CRAZY!!!, secret of mana
They stuck me playing Secret of Mana
Said it was the only solution
To give me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself

and now this remake comes out and If I waited I could of played it co-op online making it all easier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYItTxqTc38

>>388202998
vita has built-in underclock for whatever reason(battery). you can unlock it's full potential to remove the framerate issue, if you're running homebrew.

I get a steady 30fps in akiba's trip, which was a solid 22-25 before I unlocked it.

>>388202972

It's not just the state of the game.The price point has to be fitting too.
If they re-release it as unmodified original, but at a fair price point, they risk far less negative reactions.

>>388203016
But I have you little faggot.
The game had mobile tier assets, tons of budget shit like reusing music and assets for so many areas in the game, the dungeons being literal messes of random mazes and shit textures, the visuals looking like shit outside of the prerendered assets.

Not to mention the shit story, a kid I dont give a fuck about, annoying characters, having a bunch of jobs and most of them useless, repeating the fucking game multiple times to get a proper ending and fight a fat, caterpillar fairy.

It was so mediocre and could have easily been a mobile game

>>388199167
Spoonfeeding only spreads the problem, jackass.

>>388187257
Will we ever get another Mana game? I loved SoM on the SNES to death. Never played the PS1 game (Legends of Mana was it?), but heard mixed things.
I just like the unique combat of SoM and would like more Zelda/Mana/Terranigma like arpg's to exist.

>>388203258
>just play the original
Not with the godawful translation lol

>>388187257
holy shit this looks awful wtf

At least they'll finish the second half of the game right?

I kinda like how it looks desu, if you don't like it though its not like it makes the original obsolete.

Though I'll be honest, with how FF7R is getting butchered, at least they are remaking this game in the spirit of the original.

>>388202636
hi-res sprites are exponentially harder to make than 3d models, they'd be putting in twenty times the effort put into the original sprites for little payoff.

>>388202954
Can you sound more like a biased fanboy? It's not even the best launch lineup for a Nintendo system, N64 runs circles around the Switch with SM64 and at least that game was exclusive to that system :^)

>>388203171
The vita has a ton more output than the N3DS.

>retards actually bought that literal scam from Nintendo

>>388203098
do you have the rom with you?

>>388187257

>make a PS2 game
>call it a PS4 game

how do they keep getting away with it

>>388203057
Which is why I said it's fine if he doesn't think it's GOTY. And I don't need to be reassured, but it's foolish to say the game has zero good content. Objectively wrong statements like that irritate me, no matter what is being discussed.

>>388203093
SOTC even on PS2 has Widescreen & Progressive support, there was no need for a PS3 version & especially not a PS4 remake, it already looked great & had a unique style that can't really be recreated

Shit that needs to be remade is early 3D games like Spyro & Medieval, that suffer from polygon jitter, outdated controls etc

>>388203395
>only counterexample is a console from 21 years ago with only 1 game
>somehow this makes me the biased fanboy
*shakes head* yare yare daze..............

>>388203432
Because the Switch will never replace ANYTHING even if games look worse.

>>388203432
The PS4 library would improve tenfold if that was really the case.

>>388202740
Why would I spend dozens of hours playing a game that could become redundant instead of just waiting for the remake and playing it then?

>>388203476
>had a unique style that can't really be recreated
It can. You can clearly see the game's controls are awful too.
A remake is very welcome specially by Bullet Point
Hopefully Sony is thinking about a sequel to that game too.

>>388203237
how long can u keep makin up reasons not to play the original?

im not saying the the remake is trash

I like it, i don't know why /v/ is having a spergfest over the graphics for a game most of them never imagined would get a remake

but here we are, 5 months away

and you are trying to find any reason not to play SoM, which is free and runs on literally on any device

can't say im surprised, given the situation with just how incredibly low your IQ is...

>>388202780
It's only because they have an existing iOS Mana engine and SE is too lazy to make a new one. This is remake is pretty much confirmed for mobile at some point, even if it's Japan only.

>>388203432
>Secret of Mana
>PS2
Nigga...

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>>388203501
>only counterexample is a console from 21 years ago with only 1 game
Still more than the Switch line-up

>>388203376
what godawful translation?

you have never even played it

its just a run-of-the-mill plot

>>388187257
>Tabby Suit/Tiger-Skin Bikini is DLC now
Fuck my life.