Where were you when XCOM2 have been saved?

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>DLC is double the price of the game

>>388186996

>New, massive expansion pack is more than the base version of a game that's been out for over a year.

you don't say.

>>388186886
The double turn timer and Avatar project timer is honestly going to be a fucking godsend and pretty much mandatory for every single playthrough.

>>388187279
I disabled that long ago in the ini.

>>388187342
Honestly disabling the Avatar Project altogether and going for a Darkest Dungeon style campaign where you can never game over would be much better for the game as a whole, as a single mission wipe won't put the player into a downward spiral of an inevitable game over that is impossible to recover from.

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>unironically playing NuCom

>>388187658
I liked it, fuck off
>>388187525
I finished on my 2nd try, but I disabled alien rulers because they were too gimmicky to defeat

>>388186886
Praising Jake.

>>388187279
>>388187525
But the Avatar project is a complete non-issue gameplay wise

>>388187525
>as a single mission wipe won't put the player into a downward spiral of an inevitable game over that is impossible to recover from.
What? Vanilla Xcom2 isn't LW1 I/I. Recovering from a single mission wipe isn't an issue even on Legend difficulty, buy some rookies in the early game and level up more than 1 squad

>>388186996
>DLC
war of the chosen is more of a not!XCOM 3 than it is a DLC

>>388186996
It might be listed as DLC on steam but it's clearly been advertised as a expansion pack

>>388188517
>doing first dark VIP mission
>VIP being carried
>4 turns left
>no enemy in sight
>decide to yolo to the evac zone
>sniper already on overwatch
>berserk queen literally sitting on the evac zone
>start panicking as my best sodier is running straight to it with the VIP
>shitty squadie sniper takes a overwatch shot
>Executed!

Best feeling ever, and that was the shitty 5% repeater, also I decided to name her Annabella 'Nova' Terra and made her my main sniper.

fucking hell i want play xcom 2 so bad but i need to wait more than half a year for new contract and its end to buy new pc

>>388190775
I've purposely stopped using repeaters because of crap like this.

>>388191083
It was my first ironman playthrough, I failed it eventually.

>>388191083
Literally the intended use of them, they're only a problem when you cheese the ever loving shit out of them especially on the CQC guys

>>388191284
Repeaters killing rulers is bullshit, normal aliens is fine though.

BASED JAKE
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>>388186886
Does this version have xeno squads that are bigger than 4 dudes, because that made XCOM2 really underwhelming, so much so that I went back to longwar after only a few days of playing it.

>>388187279
It's not as good as you think. With WotC you can assign duration based special ops missions with a wide range of results and those include reducing Avatar progress, making the timer progress actually a mechanic you can manage without having to mount an assault on a facility.

>>388191671
There are mods that increase enemy pods sizes anon

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Is this a separate campaign or just more features to the main campaign? I actually bought xcom2 on the launch but still haven't played it.

>>388191709
Good, the Avatar project timer is dumb as fuck.

>>388186996
>I want free shit: the post
You should have left the original image with the nigger untouched, the irony would have been delicious.

>>388186886

>modders fix a broken game
>nobody wants to buy shitty firaxis shit
>jews at 2K lure away the modder, make them sign NDA instantly so they can't tell anybody

Just like how Valve tried to lure them away but they were too open about it, see how transparency doesn't make you money.

>>388191772
How exactly?

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>>388186886
X-com 2 was already saved.

>>388191982
It's dumb, as in stupid

>>388191943
Where is this coming from? Most of the best non-cosmetic mods are made by finishing leftover code Frax already did

>>388191754
Just more features but a lot of them. It also adds quite a bit of personality to the enemy. You're not just fighting some force anymore but there are adversaries (the Chosen) that come back and get stronger over time. They also have great voice lines and talk a lot. And there are friendly factions with a few special mechanics and units you can get access to.

>>388192075
Answer the question, how is it stupid exactly?

>>388192232
It's stupid, as in dumb.

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>>388192075
The whole grinding down people to filter their collective DNA to a perfect general/optimal human genome, something you can do with a drop of blood from every sample was pretty dumb and wasteful.

From all the videos that I have watched I get the impression that its too gimmicky.
Maybe it will be good if you want to mix things up in your 4th or 5th run.
I will probably but it later when the price has dropped though

>>388192280
>How are we supposed to fight these monsters
You can stand by deploying more than 1 sectopod/gatekeeper per mission

>>388192485
start

>twice the price of the original
>niggers unironically defend it
Enjoy your Fire Emblem with ayys.
Might as well buy Fallout 4 VR and start a Creation Club general.

>>388192743
Except it's not, it's $20 cheaper than the original.

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>>388186996
>price
>pc game
the shills got into your mind

>>388192795
Huh, you're right. Still, fuck firaxis and fuck 2K even more.

>>388193308
At least it's not $60 like Civ V expansions.

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>>388192485
>>388192547
I wish pods like this could appear in the base game

>>388193719
>over 210 total health, not to mention massive ammounts of armor and firepower
>wanting this in base game

For what purpose?

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>babby nucom

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That's a good sign. "Nucom" posters can fuck off.

>>388193938
Suffering

>>388193938
Because Haywire and mind control are a thing

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>>388187138
>DLC with a few new maps, a couple cutscenes, and a couple new units is 'massive'
wew

>>388186886
>more expensive than base game
Can't make this shit up.

Just play Xenonauts.

>>388194431

Might as well tell people to play the original again.

>>388194351
>>388192795

>>388194351
The base game having 60% off salebecause of WotC's release Idiot

>>388194431
Just play UFO AI

>>388186886
Does WOTC fix the fucked early game and fucked end game?

Does it make the alien hunter DLC not dogshit?

Does it give you a reason to not have multiple heavies?

Does it make hacking a part of the game rather than a worthless piece of shit?

Does it do anything to prevent the usage of "lure directly to overwatch trap" tactics in untimed missions?

Does it make melee weapons any value whatsoever?

Does it add any depth whatsoever to the shallow strategic play intrinsic in games with HP and roll to hit mechanics?

>>388195413
stfu

>>388195413
>Does it give you a reason to not have multiple heavies?
Considering the Chosen and Advent can now be immune to grenades? Yes

Can I romance assassin?

>>388195413
>Does WOTC fix the fucked early game and fucked end game?
They changed Gatecrasher and made the end game harder so Yes

>Does it make the alien hunter DLC not dogshit?
Alien Hunter DLC was and is great, they changed ruler reactions because shitters complained about it too much.

>Does it give you a reason to not have multiple heavies?
Yes, Chosen can be outright immune to grenades and ADVENT can get blast padding or EOD armor as dark events

>Does it make hacking a part of the game rather than a worthless piece of shit?
Git gud. Hacking is game changing if you use it effectively

>Does it do anything to prevent the usage of "lure directly to overwatch trap" tactics in untimed missions?
The Anti-beagle measure has been in the game for a while now

>Does it make melee weapons any value whatsoever?
Yes, they got buffed.

>Does it add any depth whatsoever to the shallow strategic play intrinsic in games with HP and roll to hit mechanics?
This bait statement isn't worth a proper responce

>>388195902
>They changed Gatecrasher
How so?

>>388196127
There are multiple versions of the mission now with different objectives

>>388196269
That's good to hear. Will it still be a complete RNG-fest with rookies that only ever get 70% chance to hit on flanked enemies while they will hit you through high cover nonstop?

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>First Long War play through
>Not 100% sure of all the effects of infiltration
>Get a mission that will expire in 1 hour
>Let's go!
>See this

Also did they ever change how dark events work in Long War, because mine never actually ended as well as I'd get the mission to prevent it from happening only for it to kick in moments after the mission popped up. Which was a little bit of bullshit.

>>388196416
No idea, I'm purposely avoiding non-dev streams because the review copies went out to people who are outright terrible at the game.

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>>388186996
>buying any firaxis game before the complete edition comes out

>>388196483
If you don't infiltrate the missions in LW you are going to get swarmed by advent on every mission, go ask on the /vg/ thread about it

>>388186886
>saved
>no nude snek mod
nah

>>388195413
rulers got reworked, they guard bases now and they toned down the free moves

explosions attract the zombie guys. they also show up as a horde every couple of rounds so it makes sitting back and overwatching forever less good since they'll eat your overwatches, but you can take down a lot of them per round with normal shots. they don't show up on every mission and whether they're actually that much of a disadvantage is kind of a question mark at this point since they attack advent too but it's something, at least

melee got buffed directly with one of the hero units being a pretty strong melee focused character, plus a lot of marginal skills like blademaster got indirectly buffed since you earn skillpoints by playing well and you can go back and buy the ones you didn't get for free from promotions

>>388196497
Marbozir has one and he's pretty good.

I like XCOM. Even NuXCOM, so, I supported them by buying the season pass for XCOM 2.

They proceeded to shit out the worst excuse for DLC I have ever seen for a game.

So, I gave up and went back to playing Xenonauts and OpenXCOM.

>>388197179
toned down in what way?

>>388197848
I still haven't played Shen's Last Gift. From what I've heard, I don't really want to.

>>388198170
Aye, while lorewise the sparks might make sense they're not mecs.

This thread made me hungry. I could really go for an ADVENT burger right now.

>>388198170
>>388198603
What's wrong with Shen's Last Gift?

>>388198924
It's one mission that unlocks a nearly useless class.

>load times and optimization finally fixed
>this doesn't occur in an accompanying, free, patch
>paying $40 to fix the game you payed $60 for

>>388199453
They've already stated why that is the case

>>388199007
>Has hasn't used the Metal over Flesh mod that makes Sparks some of the best classes in the game

Can I pirate this DLC for my legal XCOM2 in steam?

>>388198603
Mec's can't be made because Meld doesn't exist, Hell the Aliens don't even use Mecs anymore. Outdated stuff after all

>>388199565
This doesn't excuse it at all. Why would you shill for people like this?

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>>388199656
>Mods will fix it!

>>388199565
Why is that the case?

>>388199675
Yeah, use cream.api

>>388199878
Well it does and They are buffing SPARKS for Wotc to put them on the same level as other classes

>>388199984
What are the buffs?

>>388200132
Better aim progression through the ranks, their weapons can now get mod attachments, they gain more health on rank ups and they don't suffer fatigue unlike human soldiers. On the flip side they can't form a bond with other soldiers because Jake said they are soulless machines

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>got War of the Chosen and Sonic Mania for less than €40 thanks to CD key resellers to play on Tuesday

God bless you lads

>>388193980
t. never played classic xcom

>>388199984
Well yeah, they're also redoing Alien Hunters. I just haven't played Shen's Last Gift because I don't see the point, and I don't want to make the game an unbalanced mess via mods.

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>>388186886
>>388186996

As fun as the expansion seems fun, I haven't seen the root issue addressed that the game is an alpha strike simulator. You're either killing pods on the turn you activate them, disabling them, or eating complete shit. Maybe long war spoiled me, but the lack of prolonged firefights and actually useful defensive manouvers (aliens don't give a flying fuck about overwatch and suppression and will run it happily) really stopped me from doing anything with the game after the first run

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>>388200294
>Jake said they are soulless machines

>>388200431
Day one mod, don't you worry.

>>388200421
There is a second wave option that doubles the health of everything and vastly increases timers, so you can have your firefights if you want now

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>>388200404
>paid patches

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>>388196880
fuggin this. i want recruitable miia

>>388200379
Metal over Flesh isn't unbalanced though, it just makes SPARKs not suck. Although with changes done in WotC on top of it, it will certainly be unbalanced

>>388200493
40 bucks for a patch goy

>>388199719
Mecs were more fun, even if you're correct from a lore standpoint.

>>388200404
If they provided that to the base game it would make playing the original base game in it's current state impossible and would break most if not all of the mods

>>388200618
LW MECs were fun, Vanilla MEC are worse than sparks

>>388195902
>they changed ruler reactions because shitters complained about it too much.

the ruler reactions are bullshit. I saw a video of a guy who knew what he was doing and was still wrecked by the Archon King

until the 5% repeater kicked in and killed it instantly

>>388200873
>I saw a video of a guy who knew what he was doing and was still wrecked by the Archon King
I know, isn't it great?

Do old saves do anything for this? Or is it just starting from scratch again?

>>388200976
You'll want to start from scratch considering all the changes

Had to choose between this and mario rabbids. It was a hard choice, but I made it.

>>388200964
>I know, isn't it great?

the other rulers were hard but fair. Archon was bullshit

>launches the Pinion attack
>can only move ONE GUY before they explode

no, that's bullshit.

>>388201207
You can completely avoid the pinions if you don't stack your soldiers up before engagement

>>388197983
Rulers only free move if they can see the unit that moved, and certain actions like reloading don't trigger it.

>>388201207
>Use Sacrifice
>Archon King does no damage
I love SPARKs

>>388186886
It had no need to be saved.
But yes WoTC is nice.
And performance improvements are more than welcome.

>>388200759
Oh my god they kicked ass back in LW
>pre beta 14 Goliaths who were literally walking tanks
>Archers as the ultimate glass cannons, having absolutely fantastic explosives
>ITZ Jagers mopping up pods like nothing
>Marauders being stupidly good at close range
>Pathfinders walking half the map in one turn to apply fist

I miss it all

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>>388200404

>>388202873
Nene a shit.

>>388201608
so you have to buy this to get performance increases? lame.

>>388203735
Pajeets gotta pajeet.

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Any mods that add shivs yet?

>game runs like shit even with gtx 1070
fuck it

>>388204197
They are fixing that with WoTC.
But yes Firaxis truly hired the worst pajeets known to man to code XCOM2.

>>388187279
So the fucking disgusting timer is fixed(or changed) in this DLC?

>>388204535
You can double mission and Avatar timers, and the timers themselves are more varied and easier to manage.
Basically yes they fixed that.

>>388204153
I miss shivs, so damn good and cute

I remember in LW taking an Alloy one out on a crashed destroyer. While a double mechtoid pod was shitting on my gunner and no one could kill them because out of LOS sectoids, an 8 mint pod activated and went out of LOS. That shiv took fire from all 8 of them, and took out half the pod as well over multiple turns and lived while I stabilized the mechtoid situation. God I loved those things

>>388204535
You can double the Avatar project and timer length if want at the start of a campaign, You'd have to be a shitter to need that however

>can't watch anyone play it early because they will do things WRONG and I will not be able to stand it
Being a legendary player is suffering.

>>388205091
>barely even know what I'm doing
>watching people play who still manage to be worse than me

You don't have to be a legendary player, there's something about making a YT video that turns people into the ultimate shitter

>>388205091
>Watch a stream.
>He does something you will never do because is retarded.
>They get away with it due to pure luck.
Every time.

>>388206567
It's espeically bad if you look up videos specifically because you are looking for hints on how to get better, and this is what you get. Infuriating.

>>388206501
I used to recommend people to watch people on youtube to get better at the game, I realized my mistake too late