Is it worth 12 bucks?

It's a good game and I'll probably never play it

You'll probably barely get 12 bucks' worth of enjoyment out of it before getting bored with it. Barely.

>>388155221
Sure

>>388155221
It and the other 5 or 6 games you get will surely be worth $12, yes

>>388155221
It's fine, but different from KF1.

>>388155221

yes

Yes, its even better than the first one, aesthetics aside

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>>388155221
Most satisfying guns on the FPS market.

Playing everyday for the Summer Sideshow burned me out but I'm sure I'll go back eventually.

>>388155221
>>388155548
>>388156865
>>388157538
It's a shittier Payday 2.

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Why is the Firebug perk such a mess and yet still somehow functional?

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>>388157780
You are absolutely disgusting.

>>388157780
This. Just stick with superior KF1.

The last time I played the game was when they released the new gunslinger perk and I still hated it.

People claim its better now but I dont see how

nostalgia goggles everyone

Save your money and buy something else. I've put 150 hours into this game and refunded it after. Don't trust the devs.

>>388157838
They used analytics to balance the dps.

>>388158225
>baiting this hard

>>388157838
crowd control is just too good

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>>388157780
Maybe, but at least you don't have to pay over $60 in DLCs to get the full experience out of the game

>>388158068
How is the current gunslinger not as good as the old one?

I don't like how they gave classes starter weapons but I come from KF1 so whatever.

How bad is the grind. What can I expect from classes.

>>388158607
Im not saying the perk us not as good Im saying I still hated the game even after that perks release

>>388158712
>I don't like how they gave classes starter weapons
>but I come from KF1 so whatever.
You must not have played KF1 very much

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>>388158712
The grind is alright honestly, however some classes suffer from half of the perks being worthless compared to their counterpart. Medic is a good example.

>>388158712
The grind is nowhere near as bad as KF1

>>388158839
yeah only if you were high enough rank and even then you got a pistol

>>388158942
You get a pistol in KF2 too.

>>388155221
where the fuck is it 12 dollars?

>>388155221
The gunplay is pretty good but the perk system is incredibly dumbed down and overly simplified. It sucks that there's no real build customization.

>>388158323
people actually did refund KF2. read on it

>>388157780
fuck payday 2 tho

KF series came first

>>388158942
>>388158712
You're an idiot
Sharpshooter in KF1 starts with a fucking crossbow
Support in KF1 starts with double barrel
Commando in KF1 starts with AK
Demo in KF1 starts with M79

>>388159061
Humble Bundle
You'll also get a bunch of other trash games the first friday of next month

>>388159262
anywhere where I don't have to get the extra shit

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>>388158712
It's demands less specific tasks from you than in KF1. For example with the Commando, while killing Stalkers still gives you extra exp, just killing enemies in general with Commando specific weapons will give you exp to level up

>>388158849
All left if you're in a group, all right if you're soloing

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>>388158712
>I come from KF1
>but I didnt play it long enough to level up perks

>>388158849
"Worthless" perks are usually helpful in solo. You can kite a horde of poisoned zeds to death for example.

I get into it every now and then. Had I known they were doing refunds, I probably would've taken advantage of it and maybe gotten it again when it was like $10. I think I paid $20.

>>388159337
>>388158712

You can also gain XP for other perks than the one you have selected unlike KF1

So doming Stalkers levels up Commando even if you're a Support

>>388159196
nice reading comprehension

>>388159329
Just don't claim the extra shit
at worst you can sell it on G2A or kinguin for a few bucks

>>388159437
Shut the fuck up faggot, it's clear you didn't play KF1 long enough to know that you get starting weapons and had to google it to learn it was true

>unleveled perks
>being relevant

Your argument is fucking retarded, Kf2 has weaker starting weapons than kf1

>>388159525
what argument, I'm just saying you didn't get free starting weapons until you leveled them, and you still got a pistol to go along, that's not an argument that's a fact

>>388159593
You still get a pistol to go along in kf2

Face it fucker, you haven't played either kf1 nor kf2 enough to know anything about either

>>388159593
Not him but you still get a pistol in Killing Floor 2

>>388159593
>I'm just saying you didn't get free starting weapons until you leveled them
No, that's not what you were saying, that was you moving the goalposts later once it was pointed out you didn't really play KF1

>>388159639
I clearly haven't played kf2, but I've played kf1 so you can suck my dick dude.

>>388159593
>that's a fact
is it now

>>388158514
You haven't heard?
They removed all DLC purchases for Payday 2 and bundled the game and all DLCs into 1 single package only

>>388159090
Not after 150 fucking hours they didnt
Shit, steam refunds require within two weeks AND two hours

>>388159724
literally what goalpost, kf1 didn't you give you starting weapons, that's not even false, you don't get starting weapons until you leveled them enough

>>388159196
Did you have to be max level to get a starting weapon because I never got those weapons

>>388159746
If you did you would have remembered you have starting weapons in kf1 unless you didn't play it enough to reach level 5

If you did not reach level 5 and 6, you aren't in any position to compare kf1 to kf2 because you haven't had the real HoE experience

>>388159525
>>388159593
>>388159639

What are you two even arguing about? When you got level 5 in kf1 you got that perk's baseline weapon. Took you forever to get to 5 depending on the perk (early days of firebug lol) but was well worth it.

I personally liked that you had to get to level 5 in order to start out with the perk's baseline weapon. Delayed gratification at its finest. All those hours spent seeing level 5s get all the money during the first round made getting level 5 so sweet.

What weapons do KF2 perks get at the start with level 1?

>>388159885
Level 5 you get a free tier 1 weapon, Level 6 you get a free tier 2 weapon
In KF2 you always get a free starter weapon above the pistol but lower than tier 1, regardless of level

>>388159896
i was clearly contrasting how in the beginning of KF2 you're given freebie weapons for just using a class unlike KF1

>>388157780
Payday is a shittier Killing Floor

>>388157780
>shittier than payday 2
What universe are you living in buddy? Payday 2 is overrated as fuck. Payday the Heist is way more better than that pile of shit.

>>388158323
It seems reasonable, KF2's time in early access was pretty sloppy. At least right now the game is as good as it's been though.

>>388158712
Fortunately there are no KF1 Commando-tier grinds. All perks each just have a single XP bar that increases with on-perk (and cross-perk) weapons as well as fulfilling their secondary XP objective, like Commandos killing Stalkers, Support wielding/repairing doors, Sharpshooters getting headshots, or Field Medics healing people.

On top of increasing passive bonuses, every five levels unlocks two skills, you can only have one in each row active but can swap them between waves. Though not the case for all of them, many of them can be feel a bit one-sided.

>>388158849
I dunno, Medic is somewhat functional on either side. Buff darts are great and so is benefitting from them yourself, but when the rest of the team kicks the bucket a lot of those left skills aren't too useful. Poison damage is more or less iffy, but Resilence is a great skill.

That said, Demolition or Firebug might be better examples of having overly-dominant sets of skills.

>>388159932
KF2 has specific starting weapons that are weaker than tier 1 but stronger than just pistol

>>388159818
When steam games go from Early Access to released the refund timer resets

>>388160002
>Payday the Heist is way more better than that pile of shit.

mah patrician

>>388159932
They're nowhere as close to as game changing as they are in Killing Floor 1
Worse than tier 1 weapons

>>388159993
>>388157780
Neither payday nor killing floor are anything like the other beyond killing many mobs per wave

COLLAP
SING
IN ON YOURSELF

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>It's cheaper to sell and buy a few Tier 1 weapons at the trader than refill ammo for them

>>388155221
no

>>388159932
Your opinion is irrelevant if you are lower than level 6 in kf1

>>388159847
KF1 gives you starting weapons if you are level 5 or higher.
if you are not level 5 or higher, kill yourself, you are slime

It's incredibly obvious that you had no idea that kf1 gives you starting weapons at higher levels, because it is way more gamebreaking than kf2's starting weapons due to them being free fucking tier 2 shit

>>388155221
yes

>>388159932
The starter tier 1 weapons you spawn with are weak, and the next weapon you can buy is always a massive step up.
Commando starts with a shitty semi-auto carbine thingy, firebug starts with a bottle of febreeze with a lighter and zerker starts with a shovel.

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>>388157838
On the one hand, they can't really kill the bigger zeds effectively without specific weapons. On the other, they put down a mob of trash faster than anything short of a Demo (who should probably be focusing on said bigger Zeds)

>>388160407
It's not even tier 1 weapons, the tier 1 weapons is like the Bullpup for Commando, it's a tier below tier 1

Really it's a good compromise from KF1's giving you a free AK at round start if you grinded enough

>>388160232
>tfw can't merch weapons in KF2

Killing Floor is great because it lets me subtly bully foreigners by purposely enraging skrakes and fleshpounds

Redpill me on Sharpshooter, it feels frustrating to play in KF2 despite the crazy damage potential

>>388160636
>people spell scrake skrake and fleshpound flashpound
Is this how the russians spell it? Who started this?

>>388160636
>bitches dont know bout deraging fp with knife

Tbh KF2's melee mechanics make it way better than kf1 by a long shot

I just wish the charm of the game wasn't gone
But the gameplay sure is better

>>388160736
Shoot heads

The game itself is better than KF1, but the spirit of the game is worse

>>388160736
Kill zeds

>>388160736
Protip: shoot the enemy in the face until it dies
Use the perks that let you reload faster

KF2 is faster then KF1.
Old fags are just salty they can't aim while being chased by spinning scrakes.

>>388160736
Practice your headshots nigger. Sharpshooters best for stunning and popping the big guys heads and bloats, sirens and husks.
Leave the trash to the commandos and swats.

>>388160946
>Use the perks that let you reload faster
>not going rapid fire M14 and melting everything

>>388161096
It makes the waves of lever action until you can buy the M14 more tolerable

>>388160297
I got lvl 6 support demo and medic noob
probably 5 in marksmen

POST A SERVER FAGS
KF1 OR 2 I DON'T CARE

>>388161269
k

>>388160407
>The starter tier 1 weapons you spawn with are weak, and the next weapon you can buy is always a massive step up.

SG-500 is actually quite competent for what it is
Winchester is a similarly decent gun
Caulk 'n Burn gets a ton of value out of ground fires and starting
HX25 is probably one of the best starting weapons and still good for extra personal defense afterwards
Everyone will carry a medic pistol

AR-15 for Commando has a shitty burst fire mode but does identical damage to the L85A2, M16M203, and Stoner on a per bullet basis

Crovel is definitely inferior to katana in every regard
1858s are utter garbage
MP7 is simply weak

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Best character, hands down

>>388160736
Gun Slinger > Sharpie nuff said. And get good at consecutive head shots. If you suck at that stick with the snailgun.

>>388160782
PFFFFTTTT unless if that fp coming right at you fuck that. Fucking pubs don't know better and WILL re-rage that fp on you ass like white on rice.

>>388160781
skrake sort of makes sense since a lot of people used sk for callout, like fpasdasdfasdfasasfa is the callout for fleshpound

>>388160736
Practice in solo Burning Paris with the M14 or LAR to get multiple headshots on every trash zed as fast as you can. If you can't score multiple headshots in rapid succession, you'll probably suffer a lot of hits if your team mates can't cover you.

>>388161016
I don't mind how fast KF2 is or how slow KF1, they're two completely seperate games and are fun in their own way. Haven't been playing KF2 much recently since I've been working on my own Killing Floor mod. I'm not that good at coding myself but I've been trying to make a "KF1 to KF2" mod, not sure if anyones interested in it though since most players don't like mods.

>>388159329
the extra shit will probably be better than KF2

>>388161409
The sg500 is decent but can't really compare to the DBS or trench, and I've never quite got the hx25. It always felt really awkward to use. I always just started games as like a SWAT before switching to demo later

AR-15 is also competent for round 1 but not great when you're up against anything stronger than a handful of trash mobs. You really need the fire rate when you're fighing medium zeds or big mobs.

>>388161434
>not the butcher

>>388161434
I'll always have a soft spot for Mr. Foster, especially the steampunk variety.

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Definitely worth $12

I bought it for around ~$40 pre release and it was meh, but thankfully they added a fair amount of content.

>>388161828
>The sg500 is decent but can't really compare to the DBS or trench, and I've never quite got the hx25. It always felt really awkward to use. I always just started games as like a SWAT before switching to demo later

SG-500 is a nice weapon for the first two waves to save some money because you can sell the starting one when it's out of ammo and rebuy it to get more than what you would have started with. The Tier 2 Support weapons are great but ammo for the weapons aren't cheap, Trenchgun is fine but the overly wide spread Tight Choke can't fix entirely can sometimes be a hindrance depending on what you want to do.

HX25 is simply for getting weak zeds off you since it doesn't inflict self-damage and blows up at any distance, probably not as needed if someone else can keep zeds off you while you aim for groups or larger zeds. It's also an amusing way of maxing out REU on Gunslinger by headshotting Gorefiends.

>AR-15 is also competent for round 1 but not great when you're up against anything stronger than a handful of trash mobs. You really need the fire rate when you're fighing medium zeds or big mobs.

True, it chokes on mediums (which other perks would handle better) but it's still enough to kill Crawlers in one body shot on HoE. Depending on the player count it's still relatively usable for the second wave, just not like the others.

>>388162768
I find the wide spread on the trench is pretty great. It makes it very easy to kill multiple zeds with one shot.

With the HX25 I have a strategy of skipping that weapon by just going round 1 as a SWAT or something, and getting the nade launcher on round 2. The mp7 makes for a much better personal defence weapon than the hx; fast to equip, fast to reload, good fire rate.

>>388161409
>MP7 is simply weak
This isn't relevant when close combat training exists