Metal Sonic Theme

I like this grungy song that SoA made that wasn't even in any of the games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5T87uLzt-I

Sounds like it could have been Metal's theme if he was a playable character in Sonic Adventure.

"He's put together the wrong waaaayy", lol

>>388132467
I love the US version of the SS bad future but this remix kinda takes away some of the atmosphere that really made me love the theme in the first place. It's not bad by itself but I still prefer the original and the Generations remix.

Why did they choose to use the US version as base in Forces?

>>388132467
Props for Forces for giving Stardust Speedway Bad Future US a remix. The JP one is great and all, but the US one is really atmospheric and epic and is barely ever given the attention it deserves.

Too bad the actual remix is shit. Sonic Mania wins.

>>388133593
No heavy guitar makes it pretty shit, yeah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzgFLDHTrPk

Generations.

>>388132467
Sonic music is always good. No one on /v/ has doubted that ever.

I really hope the sonic music department gets a raise for putting so much heart into mediocre shit.

>fully recomposed song, totally different but still reminiscent of the original

vs

>dubstep

I understand why they didnt use JP Stardust

But the Sonic 4 theme of Metal is way better than US

>>388132467
>Vincent Skeletor
>Sonic: "Oh, Hi Metal... Um.. You're not still mad at me for smashing your face into a door and being fried by a laser are you?"

>Metal Sonic: Eyes glow more furiously

>Sonic: "Okay uh.... Gotta go fast!" Runs off

>Metal Sonic: "Eradicate. Destroy. Delete. EXTERMINATE!!!" Rockets viciously after Sonic

youtube sonic fandom comedy

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>>388132467
Mania everyday, my man. Forces is really looking to be the most mediocre game in the series.

>>388135648

>Forces is really looking to be the most mediocre game in the series.

not when LW exists

>>388135753
At least LW tried something different with the parkour gameplay, they just shat the bed with its level design.
Forces is literally a bland Generations copypaste with OC donut steel included.

>>388135753
I guess that's true, that was the true definition of mediocre. Forces is the most pathetic attempt I've seen to try and pander to autists I've seen in a long while though.

>>388132467
Mania. Forces might sound better than it is right now when you are actually fighting Metal in the game.

>>388132467
I will forever hate HURHURHURHRURHURH but that Sonic Forces remix is painful.

That Sonic Mania remix is also more cluttered and shitty than it needed to be.

>>388134397
Definitely. The guitar at 27 seconds in always gives me chills and without it the remix lacks the same impact.

>>388132467
I couldn't even finish listening to the Forces track. It's so fucking annoying, that synth sound.
No contest, it's Mania.

Is Sonic Forces supposed to be Sonic Generations 2?

>>388132467
>Mania uses JP soundtrack
>Forces uses US
Are they intentionally trying to make these games polar opposites to one another?

>>388132467
Best Metal theme coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5FW0gXNkco

>>388132467
Mania, by a long shot. On a side note,
>not his Sonic 4 episode 2 theme
>not Never Let it Go
>not Stardust Speedway Good Future US
>not even better than the original Stardust Speedway Bad Future US or Generation's remix
it's just disappointing.

>>388136779
My nigga. Metal was a son of a bitch in this game

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>Originals: US>JP (though just barely and both are very good)

>Generations: JP>US (JP is more fitting and more developed, though the US remix is still pretty good)

>Current Anniversary: Mania >>>>>>>>> Forces (Forces is growing on me, but Mania's is Master Class)

>Good Future: US>JP

>>388133298
This too.

>>388133895
Because Mania already used the JP version.

>>388132467
I have always liked Stardust Speedway JP/European so I guess I prefer the Mania one
The Forces remix ain't too bad though

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>>388132467
Think he'll be important or just get his ass kicked and disappear for the rest of the game?

>>388137618
Current GAME THEORY is that Metal, Shadow, Zavok and Chaos are the Hard Boiled Heavies because they keep glitching out and the stone changes the look of the Heavies throughout Mania.

>>388137793
That'd be such a fucking slap in the face.

>>388137618
On one hand, he's on the cover art and is the only one of the four who's naturally loyal to Eggman (Sonic Heroes and Sonic Free Riders notwithstanding).
On the other it looks like he's faced early in the game so...

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>>388137618

The latter.

>>388137869
Maybe you fight him more than once.

>>388132467
>(US ver.)
Does this mean there's another version in the game?

>>388138180
Listen to the second track.

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>>388137618
He dies stopping Infinite from killing Sonic.

>>388138283
No I mean in Forces.

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>>388137618
I'm not even a big sonic fan but the Metal sonic rivaly has got to be my favorite rivalry of any vidya. I also love this remix despite not really liking the wub wub genre. It always seems like vidya music is able to evoke emotion that the standard industry can't

>>388137793

That's retarded. A more likely theory is just that they're fakes (aside from Metal) conjured up by Infinite.

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>>388132467
Sonic Heroes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mOoYDTn-Bk&t

>>388138379
I think the thing is that Mania remixes theJP soundtrack while Forces gets the US track.
The only other possibilities are fighting Metal Sonic more than once and he uses the JP version for his final encounter or if Forces has unlockable music like in Generations.

>>388136664
Not according to Sonic Team, but it pretty clearly is.

>>388137618
All I care about is that it's Modern Sonic that faces him and they don't rehash the Classic fight from Generations.

>>388136664
They have said it's not a sequel, but it very much looks like a sequel in all but name.

>>388136664
It's kind of like Colors 2 (Modern Sonic's gameplay) / Generations 2 (Classic Sonic's gameplay) / Heroes 2 (tag team gameplay) / Mania 2 (story-wise).

mania wtf do you even mean?

>>388132467
>Who did it better?
Mania just like literally everything else compared to Forces.

>>388138819
Those screenshots seem to imply it's a 3D fight.

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>>388132467
I like the original US version but Mania wins this one by a mile.

>>388139192
Good.

>>388132467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Azop8fALfY

cum on step it up

>>388132467
US version doesn't work for a boss but props for remembering the US soundtrack exists I gess.

>>388137793
>They're just illusion created by the Magic Heavy

That'd be neat. But I'm guessing Metal is the real deal because Eggman pulls him out every so often despite his betrayal in Heroes.

>>388141370
I've gotta say, despite Heroes being shit gameplay wise, i really liked that story and the fact metal proceeded to highjack literally everything as a major threat of his own accord completely fucking Eggman over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuVAaU63K7k

>>388141536
And he still lost.

>>388141810
They were SONIC HEROES after all.

I don't think I ever took Metal Sonic seriously. I mean, in concept I guess he's kind of cool, but to me he's always just one of Sonic's lesser enemies. Someone built to emulate him, but never able to defeat him. Minor entertainment at best.

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>>388141536
>Heroes
>shit gameplay wise

>>388141896
This. How could Metal ever hope to beat the REAL SUPER POWER OF TEAMWORK?

>>388141896
truly, they were (ALL NEW SONIC) Sonic Heroes™

>>388142042
Heroes deconstructs that somewhat.

>>388135468
Youtube Sonic Fandom mostly composes of
>US CD Song: Sounds like this thing
>JP CD Song: Sounds like some other thing

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>>388132467

>US team goes with JP soundtrack
>JP team goes with US track.

Would be neat if whoever is doing the music for forces could stop shitting the bed with all these awful tracks.

>>388138352
Sonic-kun is his to kill.

>>388142209
It's not as if he was that threatening as a giant metal dragon either, though. Also, that boss fight was shit.

Metal's whole gambit just reeked of desperation.

>>388142049
That whole team mechanic thing really fucked with the pace of the game. Transitions weren't smooth at all, the power and flight characters weren't really all that fun to play as, and a super move that wipes out all enemies in the immediate area is honestly really pointless in a Sonic game. Not to mention you have to beat the game four times in order to get the true final boss.

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Posting superior robo sonic and robo sonic theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyDc1H0GrPw
Prove me wrong.

>>388142556
The thing with Metal Sonic in that game was that he'd gone insane from losing to Sonic so often, to the point he deluded himself into thinking that he was the real Sonic and that Sonic himself was his "loathsome copy".

>>388142556
He had to go super to beat him though, and he needed others to help him even then. That seems threatening enough for a Sonic villain.

>>388142776
And then that entire concept was abandoned. By Sonic Free Riders, he's just desperate to beat Sonic in any way he can.

>>388142829
I'm not even sure what the others accomplished.

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>>388142768
mfw he went super

>>388133895
>>388137339

The song is specifically labeled as US ver. Its probable its gonna have a JP ver. Too.

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>yfw Sonic Forces' Tag-Team Stages is basically Sonic Heroes 2
>Classic & Modern Stages are basically Generations 2
>Avatar Stages are basically Boom 4
>Heroes and Boom fans get the closest to a sequel before Adventure 3
>Classic Sonic got a full-fledged Classic title before Adventure 3
>OCfags/DeviantSHART get to create your own OC before Adventure Sonic is featured in-game or gets Adventure 3

>>388133298
Holy shit this is amazing, it sounds like Alice in Chains did a cover of Sonic.

>>388142919
I can understand Tails needing the bubble but why Knuckles he can actually go super like Sonic yet they refuse to acknowledge this in the 3D games

>>388132467
>they brought back the yeereehee
FUCKING MADMAN, it's like I'm listening to sonic cd again

why the fuck isn't this out on pc yet

>>388143075
Because Super Knuckles can't fly.

>>388132467
>Who did it better?

>>388136779
>Best Metal theme coming through
while i like his other theme. I do prefer "Never let it go"

>>388142959
You don't know that they aren't appealing to adventure fags, it could be glitchy as fuck

>>388143158
this.

>>388142919
>I'm not even sure what the others accomplished.
Can't do a Team Blast without a team.

>>388143327
I mean Amy and the others. Like, they fought off Metal for a while, but what did they actually do? When you fight him as Super Sonic, nothing seems damaged or anything.

>>388142959
If Tag Tea is actally fully 3D movement I might actually buy this shit.

I mean what's the point of a 3D Sonic game where 90% of the game is on a 2D plane anyway?

>>388143418
Oh I actually forgot about that part. I guess they stalled him?

Forces was kind of uneventful. nothing wrong with the direction they were going in but it needed a drop

https://assets14.ign.com/videos/zencoder/2017/08/24/960/fda760035755c491087bb4df1d90860b-1129000-1503593016-w.mp4
Why does this look so fucking awful? Forced combat sections, boring automated linearity that is worse than any previous Boost game's biggest bugbears, hordes of enemies to be destroyed effortlessly and tens of dozens of rings for.. points?

It's like they fucking regressed in actual level-designing quality and remembered absolutely nothing of what made Generations so good.

>>388143418
Distracted Metal Sonic while Team Sonic went super (and picked Chaos Emeralds along their journeys if the cutscene before the first phase is to be believed).

You may call me.. Infinite.... kid...

>>388133895
Because a lot of CD-fags played the US version of the game and the US tracks are "their" tracks. It's like Mario 2.

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Is Sonic Forces a mix of Sonic Heroes and 06?

>>388143935
Is touhou a mix of galaxian and autism?

>>388143935
Generations mostly, with Colours for your OC and a spinke of Heroes for tag team

>>388133298
That shit's so good. I like Look Alike as theme for him too, despite it not actually being one of his themes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK82EmKzXEk

>>388143935
What's with the comparisons to 06? It doesn't have realistic enviroments and seems pretty lighthearted outside of Infinite, which isn't really that edgy. People are acting like hes taking off character's heads and bathing in their blood

>>388144280
Does Sega own the rights to use stuff from the OVA?

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>>388144760
>seems pretty lighthearted

>>388138465
It's because Metal Sonic vs. Sonic is almost the ultimate rivalry. Not just by design but by thematics as well.
Aside from them sharing all the same abilities, their characteristics are polar opposites as well. Sonic was born as a free being, he gets to run around and interact with his surrounding nature as he sees fit. Metal Sonic was created as a slave to Eggman, he's forced unto his missions to destroy nature and has no overriding free will of his own.

>>388144839
Technically, nope. Once, the Archie comic got in trouble for having the OVA world cameo in one of the issues.

>>388144883
It can't be the ultimate rivalry if it's absolutely one-sided.

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>>388143670
>mfw every time I criticize the game's decisions for how shitty and boring the levels look, I'm always met with a "LOL THIS IS A TUTORIAL STAGE OBVIOUSLY" and "They haven't shown the BETTER stages!"

Meanwhile, Mania flew right out of the fucking gates of Heaven showing everyone the third god damn stage in the game in its announcement trailer and proceeded to tell you that it can teach you how to play without terrible, mishandled conveyance.

I'm so sick of this mentality that players need to be spoonfed gameplay to ridiculously mundane levels in order to 'learn' or 'master' a video game. If nothing else, games like Mania and Crash N-Sane Trilogy have reminded me I hate what the game industry has become; lazy and complacent.

But even then, this game looks less impressive than every modern game. Fucking Generations looked better.

God damn it Sonic Team this is the fucking PLAYSTATION 4/XBOX ONE AGE and you still can't figure out how to make modern Sonic interesting and how to do Classic Sonic well?

>>388141810
Took twelve characters working together to beat him though. That's probably a new record.

>>388144760
Y-you did see the first trailer right?
The dude who wrote 06 is even writing this game's story.

>>388144851
Yeah. The levels are bright and cartoony and the soundtrack outside of Infinite's theme has lyrics a bunch about believing in yourself and not giving up.

>>388145063
Holy shit this. All of those defense force kiddies in the youtube comment section going "it's just a demo" or "it's an early part of the game it'll get better later :^)" and then when the game comes out and is still mediocre they can't understand why people are shitting on it.

>>388144839
Tails has his pilot goggles from the OVA in Mania.

>>388144839
Apparently Ken Penders owns the rights to the design of Knuckles with the Hat. Not Knuckles, not the Hat.. just.. Knuckles with the Hat.

>>388144851
>Mash square to Fist Bump

>>388145105
Eggman destroying a city with robots. That's not really out of the ordinary. It's not like Shadow's intro where they actually show GUN soldiers being killed by aliens.

>>388145034
Then tell me a video game rivalry that isn't biased in the favor of whoever the player is controlling.
They can't have Metal win because if he wins, he wins permanently.

>>388145105
>The dude who wrote 06 is even writing this game's story.
One of the three dudes, don't place responsibility entirely on his shoulders.

>>388137793
That's fucking stupid. It's obvious Infinite has dimensional powers and pulled them from different timelines.

Generations had a better US remix.
Forces just keeps disappointing.

>>388132467
forces

i still aint gonna play that shit nigga

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>>388145579
What the hell am I even reading?
You telling me that goofy fuck owns rights to Knuckles wearing a cowboy hat? what kind of bullshit is this?

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>>388145579
Not this shit again.

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I haven't heard the Mania Version since I don't want to spoil myself.

That forces us remix tho

>>388145646
Well there are games with unwinnable boss fights, or a cutscene that shows him losing. In Sonic Adventure 2, the one who wins is the one you're in control of.

But Metal Sonic never wins. In fact, most of his losses are visibly shown to be easy victories for Sonic. The cutscenes following Sonic Heroes and the fight in Sonic Generations show Sonic treating the whole appear extremely casually.

>>388137793
Christian Whitehead thought up the Hard Boiled Heavies, Forces has been in development for years. It's not happening.

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>>388137915
>ballot-stuffing robot

>>388146148
Boom Knuckles is probably a different matter altogether.
Besides, no more comic Boom Knuckles anyway since SEGA made Archie fuck off after all the legal trouble.

>>388145063
Nobody knew how shit Titanic Monarch was (Or that it existed) until they actually saw it in action.

A game's not over until it's over.

>>388144839
The studio that made the OVA is dead so probably? Maybe not the music but I imagine the characters and other stuff are okay.

>>388146426
Titanic Monarch's hard, and it's a bit long in the teeth, but it is not shit.

>>388146426
What was so bad about Titanic Monarch?

>>388145757
How is it obvious? Point to one irrefutable facet of the character that says he has dimensional abilities.

>>388146359
That's fucking retarded. That comic was still published by Archie, and that's still Knuckles. Penders doesn't own anything outside of his own shitty OCs.

>>388146661
Not him, but it's implied the Phantom Ruby (the purple gemstone in Mania) is connected to Infinite.

>>388146674
He apparently owns enough to be able to copy-paste Knuckles with the cowboy hat and an electronic eye to his shitty new comic and call it K'nux

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>another corridor stage
>for STeams alternative paths are either 2 small floors in the middle of a main corridor with a red ring, or slingshot area from Ratchet and Clank or using a "light speed dash"
>light speed dash is wisps weapon
>trying to force the wisps again
>can break the game with that burst wisp by jumping for forever since there are wisp capsules EVERYWHERE
>smash a button for some team boost
>Heroes enemy placement
>enemies are just there for being wisped by the weapon
>has the feel of Boom stages
>dialogue is cringe as hell
>call that pyramid stage a stage, when it looks another tutorial stage
>Sonic could rush through that stage, but ST wants game you to think that CA is special to a point Sonic needs CA's help to drift

I don't understand. What the fuck. Unleashed, Colors and Generations had more interesting early stages and trailers than this.
CA's stages are 2d and 2.5 platformer and 3d version. But the 3d version is a mix of R&C+Boom+Heroes+Modern, it's a fucking mess

>>388146426
>I'm bad at the level, therefore it's shit

Git gud faggot

>>388146152
By that logic though, Eggman also never wins, shadow never wins, nobody really ever wins except Sonic because if Sonic ever loses, he dies. So nobody's a good character except for Sonic.

>>388146913
CA?

>>388146974
No one else is as desperate as Metal is.

>>388146426
>Titanic Monarch
That level's great, pleb.

>>388147137
>No one else is as desperate as Metal is.
Not even Eggman?

>>388136779
When will I, will I be famous?

>>388147067
Custom Avatar.

>>388147137
What about Eggman cracked at the end of Unleashed?

>>388147393
When Eggman*

can't hold on much longer (but i'll never let you go)

>>388146974
>Shadow never wins

SA2 is weird about that. Shadow's goal was just to carry out Gerald's final wish to activate the Eclipse Cannon's secondary function and stopped giving a fuck about the heroes when it happened.

But yeah Eggman can't really win or you end up with something like in SATAM where the entire series revolves around the heroes hiding in a forest.

>>388146152
Metal Sonic canonically races and ties with Sonic in Sonic Runners.

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>>388147624
>>But yeah Eggman can't really win or you end up with something like in SATAM where the entire series revolves around the heroes hiding in a forest.
I liked that version of Robotnik tho.

>>388146148
Thats knuckles wearing many hats, show me him wearing only the cowboy hat

>>388147996
Look at the bottom hat

>>388132467
Best Stardust Speedway music.

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>>388142768
>mfw Big Hand
>mfw Malicious Fingers
>mfw Super Metal Sonic
Fuck this theme was such a great way to end a game.

>>388134534
My thoughts exactly.

>>388148838
But Doomsday plays during the Super MECHA Sonic fight, you retard.

>>388135753
You're right, mediocre doesn't even come close to describing Forces shittiess

>>388136664
No (yes)

>>388142768
Why don't they use Mecha Sonic more often. There can be more than one Robo sonic right?

They can just use Mecha as Modern Sonic's Robo Rival and leave Metal Sonic to Classic Sonic.

>>388149830
After Sonic 3, Metal Sonic has been the only other robot Sonic (with a few others here and there).
It's probably because Metal Sonic is built to match Sonic's speed while Mecha and Silver/Robo Sonic were built more around combat and mimicking Sonic's actual abilities.

>>388142959
>fans of Heroes and Boom get their own 06 disaster
Christmas has come early

>>388149035
Leave him be. For some of us, it's been decades.

>>388149830
It would probably just be confusing at that point. I'd love to see Mecha again though. I really wouldn't mind if they just retconned it to where they're the same motherfucker in a different body. For a long ass time, I thought that was the case to begin with.

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>>388149830
>Metal Sonic fight in Mania
>8-Bit Silver Sonic shows up
>oh shit, is metal going to summon all the other sonic robots
>lolnope

>>388150214
My exact toughs. I was expecting Mecha at LEAST somewhere in Knuckles' campaign.

>>388146280
Glad I'm not the only one

>>388150214
Don't worry.
Lego Dimensions has you covered.

>no boss fight where you have to run while dodging both Metal and Mecha trying to fuck your asshole at once.

>>388132467

I like the Forces mix more actually. I never cared for CD so I don't have much attachment to the original melody.

>>388150647
>Beat one of them
>The other one powers up into Super Mecha Sonic or Metal Sonic Kai/Metal Overlord

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>>388150647
>no romhack where you play as metal sonic trying to take down mecha sonic so you can prove yourself to be the number one eggman robot

>>388150647
>there will never be a Getter Robo style combination between Silver, Mecha, and Metal

>>388150849
>Metal Overlord

Fuck me, that was the biggest disappointment of Mania given that we had a Chaotix reference and the last stage was even named Titanic Monarch.

>>388149830
Mecha sort of lived and died by Sonic 3's narrative (Being tied to the good ending of Knuckles story) too while Metal just had a silly Sonic death animation.

Metal looked cool too.

>>388150448
The game references it somewhat since the Heavy King channels Master Emerood energy into his scepter in almost the same damn animation as Mecha did during that one fight.

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>>388151538

Come on now, Mecha's design is just so much amazing late 80's aesthetic.

>>388147345
Well i guess even eggman has a life outside of wanting to hunt hedgehogs, robobitch spends every waking moment trying to beat Sonic and fucks it up all the time. Makes me kinda want to see what he'd do if he actually beat him.

>>388151904
I don't think he would even know what to do next. His only purpose from the moment of his creation was to beat Sonic.

>>388146148
That's a loophole. The artist or whatever explained that the policy is not in effect if he's wearing multiple hats. If it's just Knuckles wearing the OVA hat, it's not allowed. But the OVA hat with a tower of hats on it is fine.

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Anyone seen this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HStmu3qJ2kM

>>388153568
what the fuck kind of animal even is that third one

>>388153692

Cat, I believe. She's also a cute.

>>388150214
>Silver Sonic
>Metal Sonic
>Mecha Sonic
The former 2 show up. 2/3 ain't bad.

>>388144280
had one job https://youtu.be/tkfLrREBJ18

>>388153568
Jesus the Cube Wispon is OP.

>>388136779
Oh shit this takes me back, a skate rink in my town had Sonic the Fighters.

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>>388154374
That reminds. Anyone ever see this?

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>>388154731
desu i saw that shit within the past two months.

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Is Sonic Mania actually good? I remember there being some hype when the trailer dropped.
How many old zones, and how many per game?
How many new zones?
Does Knuckles mode have his own story to justify his inclusion, or does he just kind of there?

>>388155195
Yeah it's good
>8 old zones, two from each game except sonic 1
>4 new zones
>knuckles has an exclusive stage, exclusive paths in other stages, and and two exclusive bosses

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhwBpAQnYvs
Holy FUCK that's awful.

>>388155195
It's one of the best Sonic games ever and lives up to the hype.

>>388155195
>How many old zones, and how many per game?
1 from 1, 2 from CD and 2, and 3 from 3&K.

>How many new zones?
4, which is a bit symbolic if you think about how many stages are used to rep each game.

>Does Knuckles mode have his own story to justify his inclusion, or does he just kind of there?
He has his only paths through some levels, an exclusive act, and unique 2 boss fights.

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>>388134894
this
>mfw people actually think this edgy shit is even remotely good

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>>388133895
Since both games were being developed at the same time, they probably thought it'd be cool to pay homage to CD by making Mania do JP tracks and then Forces do US tracks, especially since Mania has the whole Japanese Sonic aesthetic going for it with its covers, art, and even the Press Garden stage.

>>388153568
Sonic Generations universal reaction:
>the constant talking of the "friends" during the final boss is awful, please don't do that ever again
Sonic Boom universal reaction
>the constant talking is awful, please don't do that ever again

Why do they keep doing it. Why do they think it adds anything to the game.

>>388156970
>edgy
Do you even know what this means? How is a remix of the US Metal theme "edgy"?

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>>388155195
Most definitely. I'm actually the worst Classic Sonic player in the multiverse and this was still an amazing time.
If you have even kinda good headphones, use them. Your ears will thank you.
All in all, it's a beautiful game and $20 is a steal for what you're getting.
Others already explained the details, so I won't elaborate on them.
pic related, people actually think this is a romhack

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Any of the comics any good?

>>388157389
one word: dubstep.
That's all they added to this track. They could have done so much more with that really good theme, but they went with pandering to the 10 year olds.

>>388145579

>we live in a world where stupid shit like this is possible

I hate copyright exploits so much.

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>>388157901
But how is that edgy?

>>388157953
I'll admit that wasn't the proper use of the word.

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>>388157551

Archie 1-50 are okay, then they become fucking awful and spiral down a drain of relationship drama bullshit and echidnas until 160 where they start pulling their shit back together.

>>388157901
Nah, the tempo and melody of the track did get changed.
My problem is the WUB-WUB-WUB and general harsh techno theme they did for it.
It's a weird comparison, but it's like the Spinball options menu: There is a song there (a no doubt catchy song) but the instruments ruin it.

>>388157901
Wub is okay if it's done well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aFof1V1A4E

Not plugging Spark I just like the song

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>People like the fucking Nip Brazilian version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0BoOoRfRTw

>>388158130
Where's Fang and why is he missing there?
Redundancy, yay.

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All of you

Step the fuck aside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTT2YYcPEmk

>>388158852
Already posted.
>>388154036

>>388157127
these are my thoughts as well

>>388158130
I think I like the official characterization for Bark and Bean over the comic versions.

>>388133298
HE'S PUT TOGETHER THE WRONG WAAAY

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>>388159249
>official characterization

>>388159249
They had character?

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>>388159402
>>388159431
Read the bottom of this.

>>388159249
>Character

Though I see your point. Aren't they evil in the comic? I vaguely remember Bean being allied with the Great Battle Fukku.

>>388133298
wow

this is the shit

>>388159402
>>388159431
>>388159663
Bark is a shy snowboarder.
Bean is the son of Bin, the protagonist of Dynamite Dux.
Neither are villains, or have much to do with each other or Fang besides appearing in the same game. It would make more sense if Bark and Bean joined Chaotix, like Mighty did.

>>388159663
They're mercenaries of a sort. Basically trouble-makers though they're more comic-relief than anything (Bean's crazy and talkative, Bark's sensible but silent). During the later run and the reboot of the comic, they usually worked with Nack as Team Hooligan (which Sonic Mania makes a reference to in Mirage Saloon).
I assume Ian wasn't aware of their backgrounds when adding them to the comic and mostly remembered them from Sonic The Fighters.

>>388159609
That's some interesting stuff, especially that stuff about Fang. That said, I'm a little skeptical about personality traits stated in the manual but never alluded to in-game (like feminist Eggman).

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>>388132467
Sum it up perfectly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=25&v=vHcRhah7Kgw

>>388160086
You should, it's where the creators put in the details for their characters. "feminist" is a mistranslation by the way, it would be more accurate to say he considers himself a romantic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73Nsa21snpU

As shit as the game was, I really liked this theme. I wish someone would make a Mania version, or just something that doesn't use those god awful "genesis styled" instruments.

>>388160710

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI1r5Cq5W8Q

>>388160710
It's short, but it was remixed for Metal's All Star theme in All-Stars Racing Transformed.
https://youtu.be/kDmsioyUMg0

>>388142919
>And then that entire concept was abandoned. By Sonic Free Riders, he's just desperate to beat Sonic in any way he can.

He's a robot, Eggman probably reprogrammed him so he wouldn't do stupid shit again.

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>>388138581
This nigga knows what's up.

>>388160915
Not bad, but the instruments feel off.

>>388160940
Now THIS is what I am talking about!

>>388160086
>That said, I'm a little skeptical about personality traits stated in the manual but never alluded to in-game (like feminist Eggman).
that's apparently poorly translated, i don't know what the original translation is but someone once proclaimed he was a womanizer. which fits eerily well with his Sonic X characterization

>>388161568
I read that the Japanese manual made no reference to Eggman being either a feminist or a romanticist (though the latter apparently does pop up in Japanese extra materials)

>>388132467
But is it worse than this generic garbage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpIOQTQuQPk

>>388153814
There's Mecha Sonic from Sonic 2 as well as the Mecha from 3&K though.

It would be a hell of a pull, but there's Rocket Metal from Fighters as well.

>>388132467
Why is he covered in purple glitches?

>>388161858
I got the impression that Mecha Sonic from 3&K is an upgrade of Mecha Sonic from Sonic 2.

>>388162013
Probably something relating to Infinite.
Or maybe they remembered his wacky Sonic 4 powers.

>>388162013

Probably some Infinite fuckery or something.

>>388137618
Metal Sonics a jobber, so the latter.

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>>388153568
YOU

YOU

DOUBLE BOOST