Daily reminder that if you thought Roadhogs 1 shot combo was

No character should ever have the ability to OHKO another character in any video game for any reason. It's unbalanced.

>>388112264
nobody cares.
Daily reminder to turn off mic in overwatch to avoid autismos
You're welcome.

>>388112264
>being on the objective is bad positioning

>>388112420

>yet Blizzard made Doomfist a OHKO offense class

bravo blizz, bravo!

>>388112264
You know i just noticed that blizz basically did the same thing to hog that they did to mccree.
He used to be really good too if you could play him but no that was too good apparently so now mccree is literally useless and even pro-players who used to really love mccree have switched to other characters because he just does not bring anything to the table that other characters have but better. Literally useless.
So if all of you Roadhog mains think you have it bad then suck it up and stop crying you cunts.

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>>388112264
Hogfags still haven't recovered. Get over it niggers, you were playing a brain dead character sorry you have to shoot more than once to get a kill now guess you'll have to get good.

Roadhig
>no mobility
>hook was "fixed" 3 times
>has the loudest footsteps in the game
>even had a chain dangling sound effect when he walks

Doomfist
>can 1 shot half the cast on full charge
>has 3 mobility options
>ult has far travel distance and hes invulnerable during it
>ana can heal him by shooting into the sky where the critical health icon shows up
>generates shields everytime he successfully hits an opponent with any ability

Its your fault you cant get behind a barrier or get caught off guard.

If Roadhog could oneshot, Doomfist wouldnt be a problem, nor would dive comp.

>>388112264
>Be anywhere within a mile of Roadhog
>lol just bad positioning

>>388112264

I don't play MOBAFPSs but didn't his hooks go through walls, auto aim and stop ults?

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>>388112820
Up until the last sentence I was expecting to see "We know how you feel Roadhog mains, welcome to the club"

That took a turn in the opposite direction at the end.

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>>388112487
>not just trolling autismos

METEOR STRIKE

>>388112928
If you moved behind a wall after being hooked, it pulled you through the wall.
It never autoaimed.
Doesn't cancel any ults, but pauses them during the hooking

The first thing was changed to break off if the person moved behind an obstacle before the nerf.

>>388112926
there are walls and objects that block LOS everywhere AND his hook has been fixed 3 times.

Not only that, but Orisa, Reinhardt, Winston and Mei MAKE BARRIERS.

STOP BLAMING YOUR POOR POSITIONING SKILLS ON SOMEONE ELSE. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THINGS FOR YOU TO HIDE BEHIND.

He would be balanced for flanking if every other character was not as fucking loud as he is. His "counter" for the longest time was Reaper but even then as long as he shot reaper once it was gg

>>388112264
>>388112420
>>388112487
>>388112806
>>388112820
But Doomshit says that one punch is all he need

>>388112928
>didn't his hooks go through walls
No

>auto aim
No

>stop ults
Yes

The last point is hardly unique to his hook though, a lot of ults can be interrupted

>>388113120
HOOK, LINE AND SINKER

>>388112928
yes, but only because of 20tick rollback
no, it just had a large hitbox
yes

>>388113096
The fact that his hook has had to be "fixed" 3 times says they're shit at fixing it.

>>388113120
IM A ONE MAN APOCALYPSE

>>388112948
The problem i have is that when they did it to mccree not nearly as much people had a problem with it but because its roadhog who i would argue is easier to play than mccree at a good level now suddenly half the playerbase is crying over their dead hero

idk man I've actually been really enjoying playing him in his current form, I agree with you but he feels more consistant now. Like if you miss the hook it doesn't completely cripple you.

>>388112926
Didn't you like getting stunned, hooked through 5 walls and instantly deleted regardless of where you were anon? That's what tanks do after all

They should have let people get out of his hook, and if they do maybe reduce its CD by half, example Tracer Rewind or Reaper Shift.

>>388113096
>be in any position in the game
>lol poor positioning
Im sowwy your favorite character got nerfed :(

>>388113201
thats true but the hook isnt what people werw bitching about, it was his one shot ability, which happened to be from his damage.

>>388113238
>he doesnt have between 70%-80% hook accuracy

>>388113201
it just says that people will bitch and whine until it's useless

>>388112264
>He punished players for bad positioning.
Nice meme.

>>388113292
>doesnr read posts
>doesnt understand simple logic

its no wonder you kept getting hooked.

>>388112420
^

I used to work on a TF2 mod that let you craft custom weapons and use them on the server. We used to let people do things like -100% attack speed, +100% attack damage. Guess what? That's not fucking balanced. Yes, it punishes misses heavily, but if it lets you one shot somebody, not only does it feel bad, it's very hard to play against. We had to tighten up the rules on how you could craft weapons, -100% attack speed should only net you like +40% or +50% increased damage on that weapon, it's a net dps loss, but burst damage / one-shots are a big deal in FPS. Even an amateur game dev like me realizes this after a little experience like this.

I also learned from playing around with shit that if a weapon can kill a player in <1.5seconds it's imbalanced. The human response time in an FPS means they need 1.5 seconds or so to react to a new threat. It sounds like a lot of time, but it's really not.

OW is very much a lot worse design-wise than TF2, which is a shame considering its popularity.

>>388112820
>McCree was nerfed early because he was supposed to disrupt characters like Tracer or Reaper but not be able to kill tanks easily
>balance batch did the exact opposite

Reminder that Blizzard has no idea what they are doing

>>388112607
You still don't stay where you can picked off easily, doofus

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>>388112264
>Daily reminder that if you thought Roadhogs 1 shot combo was broken, you are retarded and should visit a doctor.
>He has no mobility and was a walking ult charge.

His "one shot" wasn't the problem. It was the hook length. At launch he could throw his hook from one end of the capture point to the other. On some maps, like Ilios, this was 100% of the viewable playable area, making him the most powerful class in the game.

Even the hook length wasn't the real problem. The real problem was hooking around corners. You could walk 90 steps around a corner, have broke line of sight by 2 to 5 FULL SECONDS and still the hook would fly through the wall, and pull you around it.

>>388113394
>i used to work on a tf2 mod

kek

>>388112264
Thats what his role was meant to be but that was not how he was ever being played. More often than not it was just a Pig trundling behind the enemy and hanging about outside spawn.

Don't fucking tell me you never did that, anyone thats ever played Pig has done that.

>150 damage widowmaker body shots was totally balanced
>There are so many things to hide behind. She just punishes bad positioning ;)

Roadhogs 1 shot combo was broke and fucking stupid.

Problem is that it was his whole thing so taking it away now makes Roadhog pointless. The entire design of Roadhogs playstyle is flawed. Basically needs to be reworked from the ground up to actually "fix" him.
Unfortunately about a third of the Overwarch cast falls in to this. The general gameplay design of so many of the heros are shortsighted.

>>388112264
Daily reminder that if you still care about Overwatch you should kill yourself

I actually enjoy playing hog a lot more with the change. He can't just peel off on his own all the time now but he's still pretty potent assuming you can actually aim and don't waddle off where your team can't assist.

>>388113520
never occured when i played him. Maybe if you got higher than diamond youd see that players know how to counter hog.

>>388113295
I feel like hes more consistent in general now though. With the increase in fire rate hes much better at killing more than one squishy in a short burst. Also the PTR changes of his heal look pretty interesting with dmg reduction and movement.

>>388113394
I'm guessing you don't like CS:GO?

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>>388112264
I just think stuns in an FPS have no fucking place period. So McCree's flash, Mei's faggotry, all of that sucks cock. Fact that they make it to where you can't even use abilities like Reaper's ghost thing or Genji's dash to escape Zarya after she ults you is retarded too.

>>388113508
what? it was fun, fuck ya, I bet you couldn't program hello world in fucking javascript, let alone mess with something as stupidly designed as source pawn

>>388112820
Ironically Roadhog mains were the ones who whined the most about McCree

>>388113624
>squishies take 3 hits to kill
>consistent

>>388113502
>You could walk 90 steps around a corner, have broke line of sight by 2 to 5 FULL SECONDS and still the hook would fly through the wall, and pull you around it.

See
>>388113095
>>388113178

>roadhog is the only hero with no team oriented abilities
>he was the best offense hero despite being a tank
>he doesn't need mobility because his hook just brings people to him
>it didn't matter if he is a walking ult battery because he'd just hook and kill you out of it
He needed to be nerfed but now he's too weak. His hook cool down should be reduced to maybe 6 seconds and people should learn that if you stay with your team when you hook a person your teammates will help pulverize them so the hook is still a death sentence when done right.

>>388112420
>any video game for any reason
Shit well fuck sniping in any capacity I guess.

>>388113642
Stuns have no place anywhere where you play only one character. FPS or not. It's just a fucking boring and tedious mechanic all around.

>>388113639
CS in general is just a stupid FPS, it's all twitchy bullshit, pop your head out for half a micro second and you're fucking dead, it's just a camper's FPS

I get some people like that, but I prefer the teamplay of something like TF2 or OW

>>388113610
Don't make me go and get the fucking Harbleu killing an entire enemy GM team one by fucking one outside their spawn you fucking shitter

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>>388113642
>>388113789
You're stupid

>play Roadhog for 30 hours
>learn how he is played
>i know how to bait out a hook and where to stand
>i never got hooked as much as anyone else did before the nerf

you guys just need to get better at the game.

>>388113095
>doesn't cancel any ults
Mccree, reaper, pharah, and roadhog himself would disagree with that

>>388113789
I wouldn't mind if McCree's E just 'blinded' you, and Mei's ice just slowed your attack rate and move speed, but yeah, stuns pretty much remove the skill component

>>388113840
>enemy team comes out 1 by 1
>surprised that they all die against hog

Hahahahaha

>Create a game about shooting people with 5 other players
>Create a character whore entire point is to kill people in one hit and the defense against it is "run away and hide"
>Create a character that can stop any in coming damage apart from 3 specific character by holding down a single button.

Fun.

>>388112420

>Doomfist exists
>Widowmaker exists

Both of which can one shot peeps from short to mid range and any range, respectively

>>388113642
They're somewhat of a necessity in this game though to promote the ideas of character counters, like going Mei to put an end to Genjis unparalleled mobility. If it were any other game where nearly every character is more or less on the same playing playing field, then yeah stuns and slows have no purpose. Or heck, maybe even design the game around TF2s gameplay where fighting your so called counter isn't a death sentence, giving you a fighting chance if you've gotten good at the character

Everyone ITT:

"I don't want to learn how to adapt and outplay someone so I will cry on an online forum about how X needs a nerf"

I bet you're the same people that would play Smash with items off.

Learn to adapt. Not cry because things are hard. Thats why youre all fucking failures in life.

Blizzard always balances its game around the lowest of lows, should not be a surprise.

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>>388113840
>one by fucking one outside their spawn

I think I see what the problem was

>>388113960
Thats top 500 play btw.

Why are you not Number one anon? Whats holding you back?

>>388113805
I like both, well, not so much OW since I dislike the moba style hero ability focus. CS has more teamplay than any game I've ever played, never really got that from TF2 since people mostly just did their own thing and never communicated.

>>388113920
Oh yeah.

Those are all super short anyway.

>>388113873
And you're an embarrassingly retarded nigger that can't understand why taking away a player's mobility or means to counterattack in a genre designed around being able to rooty tooty point and shooty is not fun for the recipient and just encourages bad mechanics all around.

But I'm sure you have redeeming qualities in other aspects of life

>>388114113
Blizzard doesn't balance a game as much as they just randomly enter a few numbers somewhere and roll with it.

>>388114120
>top 500 players walking out 1by1 at spawn even though they know there is a Roadhog there

Not my fault theyre bad. If this event really happened, It only solidifies my belief that people that play this game are indeed retarded and cannot counter simple mechanics.

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>>388113697
>>388113697
False. The hook originally worked in that as long as you saw the player at the time you pressed the button, it would follow the player around the corner and through walls. And pull them straight to you through said walls.

The animation didn't line up with what was really happening. It was a lightspeed pull ability with a delay on when the player moved towards hog.

You must be in Bronze or Silver or some shit. Anything diamond or above you'd see skilled hog players pulling literally everyone through walls due to this design flaw.

>>388114225
Yeah, I don't get mad because I'm bad

>people who roll out 1 by 1 instead of rolling out as a pack
when you attack the point solo instead of coordinating ults yes you deserve to die.

>AWP in CS
>high risk high reward
One shot kill but extremely expensive. If you die, the enemy can take the gun for free.

>Roadhog in OW
>high risk high reward
You give the enemy ult charge which is a free I win button even if you try to heal yourself.

>>388114115
Ok so imagine that your a Zen and you've been dived and killed by a Genji, you spawn and come out to get hooked and killed.

You inform the rest of your team that there is a roadhog camping the spawn, they can't peel back from the point because the rest of the Hogs team is pushing.

You spawn and come out the second exit, hook dead.

POOR FUCKING POSITIONING MATE.

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>>388112264
Unlike Widowmaker, who actually takes basic fucking aiming and ammo management into account, before roadhog got nerfed all you had to do was look in someone's general direction and press 2 buttons to get a kill.

Now compare that to other characters that have to be strategic with their resources or...you know...actually have to fucking aim

>>388114240
Nah, blizzard will nerf the shit out of everything normies cry about.
As usual the design of the game went up in the air after a couple of months so they are in their classic "live day by day" mode where they just nerf what normies cry and buff shit that is not played.

>>388114410
>not waiting for at least one other person to respawn
>not swapping to someone else
>not baiting the hook
>not trying to kill hog from spawn
>letting hog get to your spawn at all

All of these are the players fault.

Get good.

>>388114410
Sounds like you're getting outplayed.

Zen and Hog were my most played heroes

>>388114410
How shitty of a game is OW where it doesn't have alternate traveling routes to stop spawn camping?

>>388114542
Thinking any of that effects someone thats even slightly competent at Roadhog.

How can you be that bad?

>>388114464
>ammo management
>resources

You know that we are talking about Overwatch, right?

>>388114607

If that doesnt effect a competent Roadhog, it probably wouldnt effect him if he was anyone at all.

Stop being bad and just get good. OW is the most casual FPS out there and almost everyone has a get out of jail ability except hog but you have problems against him?

LMAOing @ ur life, you must be from some third world country with a poor education system. Its no wonder you are retarded.

>>388114604
The spawns have two exits that come out into more or less the same area, most of them are overlooked by easily reached perches.

>>388114464
>Now compare that to other characters that have to be strategic with their resources or...you know...actually have to fucking aim

Spotted the redditor. Every character is easy as fuck, please stop.

>>388114634
>ammo management
You know more or less every weapon has an ammo counter and needs to be reloaded, right?
>resources
You know Overwatch has a fuckload of hero abilities, right?

>>388114069
See, that's sort of what I really enjoyed. Soft counters are fair enough in a class-based shooter. The only true hard counter is the scout vs sentry situation, any other situation is a feasible matchup if you really play your cards right.

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>>388114634
That's why I used the word "Basic"
Kind of like your reply.

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>>388114464
>>388114634
>mfw people think a sniper rifle with 10 rounds and fast reload with infinite ammo requires any kind of management

>>388114747
No get out of jail card apart from a 300 heal on a 6 second cooldown.

Jesus I would kill myself if I was that bad.

>>388114776
What the fuck Blizzard. That is like FPS level design 101.

>>388114870
spotted the 2k player

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>>388114780
>bring up a valid point to bring discussion to the thread
>YOU MUST BE REDDIT

Okay, so now you can take the time to come up with a valid argument, or fuck off.
Those are your options.

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>>388114870
>he can't kill a stationary Roadhog in heal mode

>>388112264
Just because he's awful doesn't mean the combo was good design. If your entire character revolves around whether or not you can land a 1-hit kill combo, then it's just a shit character. Roadhog needs to be reworked from the ground up or relegated to shit tier eternally.

Why can't Roadhog use POSITIONING next to his teammates to secure a kill now? If you're saying other people can't use good positioning and got themselves hooked and killed instantly, why can't you use good positioning yourself after the nerf?

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>>388114856
Look one post above yours, senpai

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>>388112264
>Doomfists physics still not reset properly on stun
>Genji's dash still interacting with hook and stun like 1.0
>Genjis deflect hitbox and deflect animation still not synched
>Mcree's flashbang still has akward interactions, duds, and doesnt reset verticality like it reasonably should.
>Pharah's propultion still not reset on stun/cc
>Reaper's teleport still working on POV and not FOV
>76 ult still no way to properly switch targets or attack non-user targets
>Sombra's hack animation, range, and timing still either akward or not even shown properly
>Bastion's ult still roughly 20% lower FOV means having to manually adjust to something thats not even an arc. Also getting out of ult means always going back to recon mode and not mode prevouisly used
>Hanzo's arrow hitboxes still largest sniping hitbox despite no true indication of this
>Junkrat phys not reset on landing
>Mei can cockblock enemy hitboxes with her heal ability, also still has akward geometry will wall
>Dva's selective ult eating and inconsistent mech movement due to akward phys
>Orisa phys
>Winstons non arc based jumping
>Lucio's stackable movement buffing due to weak phys still alows for geometry breaking
>Mercy non-consistant rez invlun
>Torbs inability to chose wear his sentry looks before placing
>sym's inability to decide where tp looks before placing

But no yeah roadhogs moba-tier nerf is the problem. And dont even get me started on universal shit like what is and isnt actual terrain.

>>388113695
Consistently shit is still consistent

>Hogfags still butthurt
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Try learning someone else you shitters, your old crutch isn't going to be un-nerfed.

>>388113394
>says <1.5s ttk is unbalanced
>even the pistols in most semi-realistic shooters have ~1s or less ttk
maybe consider developing in a different genre?

roadhog wasn't even that good before nerf

you could make him work but generally a dva was always a better pick

now hes complete garbagio ofc but at least children won't get triggered about dying in a shooty game

https://youtu.be/b1GFHhL9EiI
https://youtu.be/3YTMM84H_i4

Enjoy. Remember it was all bad positioning. The people genuinely trying to say that everything is on the receiving players fault are worse and at a lower SR than everyone in these games.

>>388113096
t. apparently never got hooked

Fuck off hogbaby

>>388114892
>>388114776
>>388114604
The hell are you talking about? Hollywood alone has like 3 spawn exits with cover between it to separate them

>>388114975
>Posts not one but two meme pictures in a row.
>Talks about nonsense like "ammo management" and "strategic with their resources" trying to justify playing this piece of shit game instead of just having fun.

If you want to seriously talk about strategic usage of resources in a fps you need to talk about arena shooters and shit.
Every fps has a fucking gun with ammunitions, you fucking moron.
Sometimes you say shit so stupid that people don't waste their time trying to explain to you why you are idiotic, and will just call you a retard or whatever kind of rabid stupidity you are emitting at the moment, like sounding straight out of a reddit forum or whatever you call that shit.
Also, if you had any idea on how to play roadhog or ow you would know that roadhog was one of the characters were you actually had to pay attention on your ammos since your reload takes ages and you risk filling entire ults for nothing.
You are the reason this board has been dead for years, fucking redditor.

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>i have to shoot people TWICE this is UNFAIR BLIZZARD

Seriously, kill yourself.

>>388114796
Yeah, the Hog has stuff like that too.
Doesn't his weapon has the lowest ammocount?

>>388112264
All pudge type characters in any moba or similar game are bullshit. Doesn't matter how op/underpowered they are. They're just annoying bullshit. I'd be happy if pudge and roadhog are removed from their games.

>>388115554
>make character with a big fuck-off shotgun
>ridiculous amount of spread
>TAKES MORE THAN ONE SHOT TO KILL
no wonder Blizzard hasn't made a shooter before

>>388115071
Because your mates are busy with other stuff while you disrupt some annoying fucker from the enemy team.

Also who says, my mates aren't shooting shit like Tracer or Mercy in the face after I got them?

I kind of miss him because most of my mains fucked him sideways, but I really wish hogshitters would stop pretending he wasn't just a crutch for even the worst of player to feel like they were doing well.

Every hog player

>instalock with no regard for comp
>ignore teammates objectives and anything else you could possibly do to make yourself useful
>poke head out of hidey hole for free kill then run away
>repeat on death, usually the next time you poke your head out, but hey you probably get the free kill anyway
>masturbate to silver/bronze kills and 00:00 objective time

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>>388115724
Like I needed any more confirmation that people complaining about Hog are shit

I only ever picked Hog when there was an annoying cunt Genji or Tracer

It was so satisfying to remove them and have them change class. I can't do this anymore. Weebcunts are being annoying shits without a counter.

>>388116327
You can always go Winston and become an annoying, shield dancing emote spamming asshole after every kill. Once you get good enough at it you can even take on their inevitable Reaper and make fun of them for it

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>>388113624
>With the increase in fire rate hes much better at killing more than one squishy in a short burst.

l o l
roadhogs winrate before mega nerf was 50.5%!

holy christ I didn't think all the shitters in this thread were that bad but checked it myself

his average win rate now is 44%!

literally "i ded pls nerf"

>>388116327
this, the only way to kill a tracer now is hope she fucks up her teleports
at least let the hook one shot tracers and genjis

>>388112264
what does visiting a doctor help me if I'm retarded?
he cant reverse vaccinate me

>>388114051
Need to nerf Hanzo too, I for one am terrified when I see him on the other side and ecstatic to have him on my team.

>>388116994

Hanzo main pretending he's useful detected.

>>388113642
Only reaper and Orisa can leave a grav now. All other normal escape abilities get disabled.

>>388113642
>Fact that they make it to where you can't even use abilities like Reaper's ghost thing or Genji's dash to escape Zarya after she ults you is retarded too.
I mean, I know that the absolute most of Genji players do not have functioning brain, but if you think that genji should be able to escape graviton for free every single time, you're mentally gifted.

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>roadhog is unbalanced because one shot ability

>meanwhile hanzo can instantly 1HKO even tanks with scatter
>widowmaker can 1HKO most heroes from a distance
>doomfist can 1HKO every 4 seconds that completely ignores barriers and he gets extra HP for it
>d va can 1HKO anyone with ~200 HP if all the missiles land, even more if she does M1+melee+missile combo

If you ever complained about Roadhog's hooks you're just a shitter. It's not even a guaranteed kill if he hooks you because zarya bubbles, DM, boops, ice walls, and other stuns all fuck it up if your team is helping you and paying attention.

>>388114297
The hook never worked like this you fucking twat, you probably just watched that one video with retarded examples like mid dash genji which has retarded hit reg. Hog is a classic example of why devs shouldn't listen to their playerbase, you end up with literally worthless or horribly broken characters.

Honestly didn't give a shit if Roadhog was poorly balanced or not. He was fun as fuck to play and who really gives a shit about Overwatch competitive anyway. Now he sucks so much shit it's just not worth picking him at all. Same with Ana she was actually a ton of fun before her nerf.

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>shit balancing
>awful map design
>microtransactions in a full price game
>god awful community rivaling Dotards/LoLfags
>horrible hit detection
>punishes you for being good at the game

Is Overwatch, dare I say it, a /shitgame/?

>>388117903

Fucking this. Seriously fuck all the fags that bitched about him literally like 70-80% of them were ranked gold or under.

Anyone know when Roadhog's speed buff is supposed to go live?

>>388118193
Ana was fucking broken you moron. Why the fuck should a designated healer be able to out DPS some DPS characters? Not to mention that her biotic grenade is still fucking retarded.

>>388114051
You have to actually aim with widowmaker though.
She's more useful with her assault rifle at times.
The only way to really play her is to specifically target enemy healers

>>388118282
i always wondered what doujin he is reading

>>388118484
speed is meaningless

could just revert the godawful reddit changes since he only had a 50.5% winrate anyway but haters gonna hate

>>388117081
Is this counter counter sarcasm? I can't keep track anymore.

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I won 9 of my 10 placement matches stomping everyone except the one game where my teammate fucking dced and I got placed in plat. What a great game.

>>388117903
I agree that they ruined Roadhog, but you have to consider that all of those characters require skill to get 1HKO, except Hanzo. Widow is virtually useless, unless you have godlike aim, her skills are worthless, the grapple has too big cooldown, that mine is a fucking joke, and if someone's chasing her, she will die (Winston for example renders Widow completely useless with his jump and shield). Negro has to time his 1HKO plus you can hear him coming from a mile away. Dva, I think you meant Pharah by what you posted, is really easy to hit in the air with Widow. 2 not even fully charged shots and she's down. Meanwhile, Roadhog used to be a fucking invincible murder machine with his 600 health AND the ability to heal, given that 90% of players in this game are genuinely mentally challenged, you could get easy kills and victory with him. Like, he was easy mode in that game. But yea, he's completely useless now, Blizzard can't balance for shit.

>>388118624

Better than nothing though. Obviously I'd prefer if they reverted his nerf as well but I doubt Blizzard would ever go back on that even if it was simply out of pride. I really wish they didn't listen to the cancerous reddit OW community so much.

>>388112861
Nigger actual stats show
>Lowest win rate in Bronze league
>Not even picked 1% of the time in masters and above
Tell me where does Hog shine when both ends of the spec term he's shit.

>>388118837

they changed the SR rate so it no longer gives you more SR for winning in streaks, meaning its going to take days to climb out of it even if you're winning 55-60% of games.

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>>388118848
>fucking invincible murder machine
>50.5% win rate

>>388118848
>Dva, I think you meant Pharah by what you posted
Read the upcoming PTR changes.

>>388119019
lol why the fuck did they change it? so glad I dropped this shit game a year ago

>>388118837

I won 10/10 of my matches and was placed in Silver. I also average 3-5 gold medals a game but only just broke into gold this season because of how shit your team ends up being half the time.

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They nerfed Roadhog because they listened to the shitty average player instead of looking at high level and competitive play on what to nerf and buff.

>>388119117
What missiles does Dva have?

>>388118974

He doesn't shine because OW fucked him in the ass with his recent nerfs. I doubt even the speed buff will do much to help him recover. Literally he's overshadowed by every other tank by a large margin now.

>>388112420
Stop

>>388119390
Right now here are the stats:

Number of missiles: 18
Shots per second: 11
Explosion Damage: 8 (has damage falloff)
Impact Damage: 4
Radius: 1.5m (for comparison, Pharah's rockets are 2.5m radius)
Cooldown: 8s

Obviously these are subject to change, and I am sure you guys will get a better feel for them when we get the PTR up.


Thread where jeff posted https://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20758736655#post-5

>play doomfist like a stupid moron
>only time i move is to position myself for a bunch
>punch straight into their team
>if i hit any squishy, it's essentially a guaranteed kill or enough to make them leave the fight in panic
>if i hit a rein, rein's shield goes down and he gets knocked behind his backline and they are vulnerable for a few seconds
>spam shift right away to take off into the air
>turn around and press E, fly safely back into my team or behind a corner
>if i die, i just find another angle to do it from
>wait 5 seconds and do it all over again

Man, I sure love Doomfist.

>>388119374
Which is good because the average players are the highest percentage of the population and therefore the highest percentage of satisfied players after a patch hits.

>>388119374
Roadhog was an auto-pick at high-level, what are you on about?

>>388119787
Not really faggit even pre nerf he had about a 45% pick rate in diamond and above.

>>388119564
I'm completely confused, are they changing her primary attack?

>>388118282
Yes, undoubtedly.

>>388112420
>OW players are this stupid
sadly, it's not even a little surprising

>>388119986
No they're giving her an E

>>388119986

No they are giving her a new missile attack but nerfing her defence matrix duration by 50%

>>388119986
>>388120025
>>388120058
its also useable while you're flying and DM is up.

>>388112264
>bad positioning
>hook 1.0
>hook has eyes
>can hook people you can't even see
Yea, positioning

>>388119747
Man, it's crazy fun killing Doomfags with Widow.
>Doomqueer jumps in the air
>stands there like a retard looking for a place to land
>shoot him in his stupid fucking face
People get angry as fuck when you kill them with Widow more than once. Widow is still shit, if you die to Widow, you're a retard.

>>388120025
>>388120058
>>388120159
Why?

>>388112820
>Mcree fan was fine

revisionist out in full force I see

>>388120361

because new maps and heros is too hard and taxing

>>388112264
>bad positioning
>oh silly me for being less than 30 meters away from roadhog. I guess I just deserve to instantly die for being near somebody.
>McCree's flashbang gets nerfed
>hook remains same for months

>>388119174
>>388118837
>They think they belong in top500
>Still talking about gold medals as if they matter
>Not knowing placements are 90% last seasons SR

So much wrong

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>>388114403
>making a one shot weapon for a campy game

CTF would be the best thing they could add for mechanics like CSGO's.

>>388119564
Fucking what? The easiest tank is now even easier? The character with INFINITE ammunition now has fucking rockets, too? Is this as fucked as it sounds? Also, shouldn't say she's easiest. Just the easiest to consistently do well with.

>>388112264
He still punishes bad positioning, he just can't solo a whole team anymore. Boohoo

>>388121248
They're nerfing DM by 55%.

>>388115118
>talkin' about physics
other than that:
>Torbs inability to chose wear his sentry looks before placing
It can shoot 360 idiot
>sym's inability to decide where tp looks before placing
Exit is towards her.
>Winstons non arc based jumping
Arc is based on where your mouse is pointed when you use the ability
>Lucio's stackable movement buffing due to weak phys still alows for geometry breaking
Lucio movement buff doesn't stack

that's all i felt like reading, fuck off :D

How do people have fun playing this game? It seems like every month there's a multitude of completely game-changing, meta-breaking changes. The game has been out for over a year and Blizz is still too retarded to have found a balance? Games like this thrive off consistency, not drastically shaking things up and resetting the learning curve every few weeks.

>>388121121
>gauging placements by a forced goyim buy my game in advance if you want to place higher for no reason huehuehue

What a fucking load of shit.
Im not saying top 500 but if I play 3-4 games with plats and go 50-5 each time obviously im not a fucking plat player am I?

overwatch threads in a nutshell

>when I play x they are underpowered, but when other people play x they are overpowered

>>388121558
>resetting the learning curve every few weeks.
If you have to relearn the game everytime a new hero comes out or a few changes to a hero you're fucking bad dude.
are you a mercy main or some shit?

>>388120276
It's equally as funny watching them give up when you hack them as Sombra.

I legit had one just crouch and let me kill him every time he ended up hacked.

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>>388112264
Daily reminder that if you unironically play Overwatch, you should remove yourself back to redit.

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>>388121618
If you weren't plat then you would get out of plat now wouldn't you?
if you can consistently carry 50-5 as you say then how can you even be in plat? that makes absolutely no sense anon

>>388119039
>both sides had him in a majority of the games I played in
>one hog wins and one loses
>~50% win rate

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>>388121753
What if I play ironically?

>>388120361
Pharah obviously.

Which is stupid, because just buff Orisa and her gun speed. That shit has a delay like no other.

>>388120025
I'd give her the D amirite

>>388121892
You should remove yourself from the planet

>>388121121

I was talking about my first season and nice projecting there faggot. How else do you ascertain team contribution without factoring in medals? Aside from certain tanks that don't receive a medal for damage blocked.

>>388121397
I dunno man. I got plat with Dva my first ten games of comp and i've always found her to be way too good in almost all versions. She can chase most damage, though probably not Doomfist, to death.

Her ult not killing her made her far too strong and DM made her really cool in teamfights but far too good at completely raping anyone 250 HP and below. Don't get me wrong, Plat's a joke. But I don't like Overwatch. I'm not good at it at all but this worries me. Nerfing DM may make her less capable of totally denying ults but if those rockets are that strong it'll be genuinely terrifying.

I haven't seen it in use, though, so maybe its way less scary than I think. Making her boost and shoot is cool but also lets her be extremely aggressive against even more of the cast for very little consequence.

>>388121965
You needed to add literally into your first statement to have the correct level of impact.

>>388121978
>How else do you ascertain team contribution without factoring in medals
Elim means you at some point damage a person who died.
Damage counts shield damage.

Only medals that makes any kind of sense is healing done and time on point and you can easily get gold there without contributing shit.

Medals doesn't mean shit.

>>388121789

Because you are matched with shit players sometimes and Overwatch makes it very difficult to carry on your own. Not to mention how often people throw games which completely fucks your team over. Unless you always play with the same team that you know is competent you wont rank up very easily. Is it that hard for you to comprehend retard?

>>388112264
>25 meter near hitscan hook
>Will pull you in even if you go around walls
>Instagib for squishiest
>Near instagib for most non-tanks
>Also has an amazing heal

No he definitely needed a nerf.

Also as an aside, Doomfist is probably the only character they've ever made who actually has a truly exciting kit. If the game was designed with characters like him being the basis then it would be so much less dull overall. He's ridiculously powerful, sure, but the fact that he's got so much he can do is fucking cool.

>>388122116

Those are still team contributions retard. If you're gold in those areas that means you still have done the best out of your entire team in those regards. Sure someone on your team might pull off a good ult that tips the scale for you to win but medals are a tell tale sign of how well you did in most cases.

Looks like you're just a shitter who doesn't get many golds eh?

>>388122050
Thing is, that's her playstyle. She's supposed to be a bulldog. So them nerfing DM (hard as fuck) is cool I guess, considering they're giving her another attack option.

It really boils down to the numbers at this point. She'll still be pretty dead when faced with Reaper

>>388112264
>Daily reminder that if you didn't think Roadhogs 1 shot combo was broken, you are retarded and should visit a doctor.

He has a high health pool with a heal that does half his HP and with his hook he could grab people with no risk at all to himself regardless if he missed or hit.

>>388122240
>but if I play 3-4 games with plats and go 50-5 each time
You're the one saying you can carry games anon not me.
and saying "reee it's elo hell" is completely, literally, idiotic.
if it was true then how come every single masters player manages to get to masters on their alt accounts as well? it's true there's fucking retards on the lower SRs but if you're actually good and not just some retarded onetrick pony who thinks they're the best Esports player since Flash, you will rise.

>happily nerf hog into the ground and not bother touching him for months
>bastion is nerf after 3 days of being meta instead of letting people adjust to the easiest character to counter in the game
>dva can still shoot down a balls of fire, shoot bombs and magically delete them instead of having them blow up and eat ults
>oh but she can only do that a little less now though so lets buff her even more in every other area

sick of of the blatant favouritism of some characters

>>388122427
So you're saying that the D.va just hitting everything and getting gold elim is contributing more than the DPS who is actually doing 90% of their HP?
You sound buttblasted as fuck my man, did someone tell you that your gold elims didn't matter? did it trigger you?

>>388115118
Half of these problems don't even fucking exist. Get out.

>>388114410
>getting killed by hog while playing zen
it was the easiest counter, bait the hook press E and shoot a couple of heads.

>>388122494

I wasn't that guy never claimed to carry it's literally impossible if you have a shit team. That's just the way the game is designed. Also, they get masters on their second alt by grouping with good teammates to ensure a very high probability of placing high.

>>388122669

>Cherrypicking one hero

Alright retard no need to start projecting

>>388113034
>"Reaper's one!"
>"What did he win?

>>388122758
go to youtube
Write in "Placements to Masters solo"
See how impossible it is.

>it's literally impossible if you have a shit team
enemy team is just as bad, that's what the entire SR thing is, you just don't see them fuck up as often as you see your team fuck up.

>>388122669
Technically speaking, individually what both do doesn't matter. Only the end result of killing someone matters.

Doing 90% or 10% of their HP is pretty much the same when someone can heal up to full extremely quick.

Personally I'd say that both are doing their jobs well by getting rid of threats together.

>>388115410
I watched your videos. Are you serious or are you just trying to get (you)'s because you've got mine.

>>388122853
>I have no counterargument so I'll just scream cherrypicking

But fine, I'll give you more examples.
Tracer can do the same, 76, widow, thorbjorn, genji, mcree, phara(this one is the weakest because even with splash she deals decent damage), sombra, orisa, road, winston,

They can all lightly touch a target but still get an elim from it, like literal 1% damage, someone else kills them, 1 elim for them

>>388123112
it does though, if someone consistently does trash damage it charges enemy support ults faster.
It will give them gold damage and probably gold elims because they're hitting everything at least once but their damage are usually more detrimental than anything else

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What the fuck is up with big black man's fist hitbox

I am literally two reapers worth of space away and I still get fisted

>>388122281
>deals shitloads of damage with his primary
>very reliable high damage ability
>teamwipe ult
>free kill with trap on a 10s cooldown

Junkrat so broken, pls nerf.

>>388121789
You didnt even read the post you faggot
>>388118837

I dont have the time to play 40 games a day.

>>388123112
if you doing a ton of damage but never killing anything then you are just feeding them ult

>>388123472
If you want to say that it results in ult charges, doing 90% of damage and not getting a kill does that as well.

Thats why I say, the only thing that matters is the end result. It doesn't matter how much damage you pump into someone if it doesn't kill them.

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>>388121519
Why is discussing the games inabilty to read current phys position and apply it in real time a bad thing?
Thats true but theres no reason why you cant select were it faces to lessen the time it takes to face wherever you want
I know, but why cant you chose to have it be away from her etc?
I know......im getting the feeling you arent understanding. The problem with the jump is how it works, it being arc based means even if you point it above ground his collision box will hit the ground depending on POV
Yes it does.
No you.

>>388122240
This.
People dc or assburgers out and start throwing themselves off the map 70% of the time.
If you played 100 games Id guarantee 70 of them would be purposely thrown by your teammates doing nigger shit.

>>388122945
>PLAT
I played 20 games
2 games were normal games
11 games people dced on my team (9 in a row)
2 games someone on my team intentionally griefed throwing themselves off the map
1 game an enemy player ragequit
1 game someone dced on the enemy team
1 game nobody would play a tank or a healer
1 game everyone refused to play a hitscan vs pharmercy
1 game we had 3 healers and an attack torb

>>388123740
what you're saying is 100% true, but what you're not getting is where this discussion was about, medals. The person doing 10% damage to whoever they see will get gold elim and dmg over the person who focuses a single target and actually gets kills, because the first person will be in on their kills and every other kill without contributing as much.
As such the medals are not a pure representation of contribution

>>388124108
Ahs yeah, I only jumped into the conversation on that post. Sorry for missing the point.

>>388112420
Lucio Pharah Rein Hanzo Widow DVA doomfist can all 1 hit kill without use of a ultimate.

>>388124047
>11 games people dced on my team (9 in a row)
jesus this one is rough, I rarely ever have DC'ers.

I play low diamond and if you wanna take your personal experience, here have mine of the last 5 games I played

>1st. Had to play tank, no one else wanted to, lost 2-1
>2nd 1 support so had to support, we won
>3rd Finally get to play me some reaps, we won
>4th had to tank, both DPS couldn't hit a barn, we lost
>5th Dude got angry because rest of team asked him to change off dps, threw game

Most issues I have when I play are DPSonetricks who refuse to do anything else but I still managed to drag my ass from low plat to low diamond only playing ~10-20 games a week

>>388124361
>dva
Doubtful.

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>>388124318
np my man, your point is 100% true, just not in this context

>>388123850
This actually happens a lot less at the very top, and the very bottom.

I don't play ranked, but the people I QP against are usually diamond. I grouped up with a friend a couple of weeks ago who would probably be in silver or gold, and holy shit, every team was a mash of people who, mechanically, were not bad, but had no idea to play a team game. This is where you find the griefers much more frequently. I'm not saying they don't exist at the top or bottom but I'd say it's pretty rare for me to see someone intentionally throwing like I did in just one day of playing lower ranked games with friends.

That middle ground is full of people who think they should be higher, and could be higher if they would stop being a spaz and played with their team.

In every single competitive game around, it has been proven time and time again that slow, deliberate play where people have time to make decisions and the time to kill is lower, is just more fun and thoughtful and engaging. One-shot or all-or-nothing mechanics just aren't good for competition.

>>388112264
I like how Roadhog was considered unfair but Mei being able to freeze and headshot anyone is okay

>>388126138
This is always how it goes. One class/hero is singled out as OP, gets nerfed, and this brings the attention to another, formerly overlooked class/hero. It will never end, until all classes/heroes are completely neutered.

I can't believe nobody learned anything from the WoW days.

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Why is hog still able to kill things? He needs some more nerfs imho.

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>>388126745
>Zarya and 76 clearly focusing monkey too

lowtier bait

>>388112420
>dindufist is just fine though
I hope you get put on a cross

>>388126745
>zen and zayra there

you surprised monkey dick melted?

>>388112264
REMINDER:
If you're a salty Streetpig player and you think that reaching halfway across the map regardless of your own position, dragging 60% of the cast across that half of the map, and then OHKO them was excusable design then you're a literal retard.

Classic Blizzard giving in to all the bitching and nerfing the shit out of something that was completely fine.

We've seen it many a time before.

>>388112864
Dive comp isn't a problem faggot, the turtle comp is far worse. Hurr let's chill out behind a rechargable barrier and spam damage through it ad inifinitum while the opposing team does the same, we'll see where our sole difference in composition ends the match.

>>388127253
You're new to Blizzard balance, I see. Would you like to see my old Reckbomb videos?

>>388113371
You dumb cunt that's exactly why this game is shit. There is no strategy, it's stack team, stack barrier, stack heal, stack damage, hold position, charge ult, win/lose depending on DPS trades and healer ults. It's rare as fuck to see a flanker handle effectively the way they're meant to because of all the means the their demise, and the quickness it's dispatched with. You literally can't run a flank, and with Piglet it makes it all the worse for the fraction of the cast and the overall emergence of the meta outside charging mid with the whole team.

>>388124361
>dva
What?
Also, can you count environment kill a OHKO?

>>388126881
That's called good positioning and teamwork. I'm sorry that Hog players have to use that now.

>>388126138
Roadhog was considered OP cause he could grab someone from across the map, one shot them, and shrug off any damage done to him with a quick heal.

Oh and should anyone get remotely close to him he could one shot them too.

Mei on the other hand needs to be in your face to freeze you.

Pretty much every complaint about Roadhog comes down to how safe he was as a hero and how he could do pretty much everything by himself.

>>388128447
>Mei in your face to freeze you.
>He doesn't know.

You're a fucking dumb ass mate.

>>388129059
Her range is fucking short outside of her ult.