ck2 jade dragon

>>388104770
I'm angry at Johan.

This is a personal slight against me, a repetition of the India DLC he came up with just to hurt me

>game is named CRUSADER kings 2
>each dlc takes it further away from Europe and Jerusalem

Americas DLC is next in line.

>>388104770
why are modders so much better than paradox? seriously this is getting retarded.

>>388105140
>Not wanting a crusade on japan

>>388105140
i think a crusade on America sounds great

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>NO MAP EXPANSION
>SIMPLY SUNSET INVASION ON THE MOST IRRELEVANT PLACE IN CK2
PARADOOOOOOOX

>>388105553
They could have made india more relevant if they actually did a map expansion, but no its just going to be a big ireland that exists for no reason other reason than to be conquered by an off map force, you can probably just make china irelevant whenever you start a new game.

>>388105553
Britain makes me hate police.

>>388105148
Because the core base of Paradox fans suck their dick all day. It won't change until people stop buying the shit tier $20 2-3 feature dlc. Paradox is basically just selling out for money and they're eating it up like good consumers.

>>388104770
>implying you could run a full extended map at more than 2fps

>>388106174
They shouldn't even make this a dlc, or at least 5 bucks is what this is worth, if anything they should remove India for being so useless

>>388106174
most people that dont have a shit pc can.

>>388104770
They shouldn't add china, just as they should have never added india

They should focus on europe and the middle east

>>388106316
Yeah ok pal, what's it like working at NASA?

>>388104770
Oh boy can't wait for the game to have even worse performance

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yfw Victoria 3 comes out and it's Europe only, with other continents released as DLC

>>388105140

>Game is named EUROPA Universalis 4
>you can play as any nation in the world

herp derp kys

>>388105140
Sunset Invasion was already a thing.

Do you want another expansion like the India one that adds nothing except kills performance?

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>>388106963

link to forum https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/crusader-kings-ii-jade-dragon-announced.1040962/

stop buying the dlc.
problem solved.

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>Crusader Kings 2
>Can't crusade

>>388105140
I must say I have sort of wanted to do a small Vinland game before.

>>388107237
no

>>388106963
That's like making a Warhammer game and making Brettonia, and Norsca and, even worse, imagine making CHAOS a dlc, and just for the kicks, make BLOOD a dlc as well!

Oh wait a second...

Where has the freaking industry gone?

>>388107237
The vast majority of players who don't buy the DLC don't matter, it's the huge cash cows who buy every little bit that make up for everyone else and make it worth it.

>>388107304
>select Teutonic Order on the map
>"Sorry, you can't play as Holy Orders in CRUSADER Kings 2 ;)"

Thanks Johan this off the map China shit truly is far superior

>>388104770
What a shitty trailer

>>388104770
>tfw no bookmark mods compatible with HIP
I JUST WANT MORE B
DATES WITH HIP'S MAP AND TITLE TRANSLATOR REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>388107237
>>388107373
>>388107335
>implying those retards won't eat it up for dinner
>implying they aren't doing this because it worked in the past
When did /v/ realize that common serfs can't be trusted and democracy was a flop

>>388104770
I'd rather have the chinkset invasion than another fucking map extension, fuck that shit
You're a fucking fap, op

>>388104770
>2012
>Crusader kings 2 is a game about playing a Catholic feudal lord in medieval Europe.

>2017
>Crusader Kings 2 is a game about playing a Satan worshipping feminist Aztec emperor of China

>>388107702
>fap
That's supposed to be fag

>>388107702
Id rather want a map expansion or somethin new in europe but no its gonna be this shit.

>>388107818
Map extensions are literally pointless bloat
I'm pirating this shit anyway so better just a menu screen to send me chink waifus than a billion courtiers to explode my toaster

>Rally Points: Instruct your levies to automatically gather up exactly where you want them.

This is supposed to be major expansion feature.

Simply ebin.

>>388107913
I want the chink waifus desu

>>388107740
This/kek

>>388107935
It's about fucking time anyway, no rally points was one of the most annoying parts of CK2.

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>be messalian
>join lucifer's own
>be double Satanist
>play with HIP
>join messalian 'inner circle' as well
>be TRIPLE Satanist
MOM'S GONNA FREAK

>>388105553

The idea of British police is grand.

They're just civilians like you and me, there to help other people and enforce the law if they have to.

Unfortunately, this is the reality.

>>388108229
is it so hard to select all your levy and sent it to one province?

Do people actually want this DLC?

Every new path seems to add needless stuff to the game that just overcomplicates it.

Fuck off with your endless DLC shit and make CK3.

>>388108620
Yes. And if you want to manually select ships, and levies are raised and in the same area, you have to raise the ships first or it will automatically select any levies instead.

>>388108795
Alt lets you select the ships not levies.

>>388108795

press ctrl or shift or alt+click and drag
youre welcome

>>388108561
you are like little baby
watch this
DEVIL SPAWN

>>388104770
L-O-L, the Mongol are already incapable of conquering anything beyond Siberia before imploding. Can't wait to see what this does to them.

>>388107084
because eu covers the time period when the rest of the world became relevant to european history,

>>388105553
What the fuck? Are they really policemen?

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>>388109004

>people actually wanting China in CK2

the mechanics are completely and utterly unsuited for representing the chinese bureaucracy, china would need to be non-player only which would do nothing but introduce more lag

>>388104770

>looistan now gets more content
we never wanted your shit, raj

>>388109390
the way it's gonna be implemented is so far unplayable by the player and strictly an off-map entity outside whatever the "western protectorate" is, which is also intended to be unplayable by the player

I would say it doesn't add any new provinces for china but it kind of did add some new provinces to tibet and the tarim basin; I'm quite excited about playing in the tarim basin myself in case you can invade china and play the non-mongolian subjugator

>>388109390
how does chinese bureaucracy work??

>>388104770
tfw the only fun you have in CK2 is through fantasy mods and these expansions do nothing

In other news, India's getting unfucked with the removal of the free 10k cheatstack that Hindu rulers can call upon when defending in a holy war. That still doesn't mean that Pdox is capable of getting Muslim Turks in a remotely advantageous position from which to invade India, or indeed keeping all the Turks on the map from getting swallowed by the local ruler of Khiva, because the poor helpless horse archer hordes have no answer to the might of local peasant levies (in other words, numbers are all that counts in winning battles in CK2).

I get too attached to my family in CK2. I make personal cannons and personalities for characters in my head and make decisions relateable to that character.

>>388109749
eh you could probably use this for some bullshit

like what do the gods want
or what do the aliens demand

some off-map entity that has desires and wants you to do shit, i don't know shit about modding and im lazy too but i see potential

>>388109612
oh yeh I don't mind how they implemented it, I was merely saying adding the ENTIRE chinese region would be madness
>>388109648
there's good books and even websites explaining how it work but sufficed to say it was completely incompatible with the CK2 gameplay which inherently is based on european feudalism

heck CK2 already is terrible at representing pre-1000 europe

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>>388109648
>be Chinese ruler
>plague arrives
>"peasants say pets are causing the outbreak"
>"yeah! Let's get rid of them!"
>major food shortage

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>>388109916
>
like what do the gods want
or what do the aliens demand

>>388109886
FYI: you're doing it right
a large part of CK2 is the RPG aspect.
As in: actual RP, not grinding and shitty gameplay.

>>388109973
Medieval china not modern china

>>388109964
it's a good thing pairaducks seems to not be planning to add china directly

I still wish they'd give flavor to Russia/Mordvins/Volga Bulgaria of SOME kind, that stetch of the map somehow manages to be duller than live vanilla khotan up in the northeastern edge of the map on the silk road

So what is the most fucked up thing you have done in CK2 anon?

>>388110091
be a jew

>>388110110
I've done everything there is to do in ck2
hell I've gained immortality in ironman but despite being eligible for achievements I didn't get the achievement for it OR the achievement for killing a fellow immortal
shit sucked

>>388109916
If they add China they'd need to do so in CK3, not 2

If they go out of their way to introduce a bunch of baseline gameplay types to properly represent feudalism, iqta, tribalism, bureaucracy and merchant republics then I'd be all for china, but right now with only 1 core mechanic it's just stupid.

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>>388109648
I guess something similar to this.

>>388109390
But anon, feudal kingdoms in CK2 are represented as modern nation states in which the AI will go to absurd lengths to attempt to perform genocide on all rulers which aren't exactly the same ethnicity and religion as the monarch, where states have full political control over every last backwater province when determining changes in allegiance, where every dynastic marriage leads to the full incorporation of the inherited lands into the inheritor's nation-state and where the economy is fully monetized by the mid 8th century.

>>388110006
I haven't even read the thing or watched the trailer but as far as I comprehend China isn't actually on the map, the Chinese emperor just has shit that he wants

So if you replace "Chinese emperor" with some other name you just have a system for some dude off the map who wants shit

>>388110204
that's slightly less dull but I'd just get invaded by byzantines constantly unless I started in a start date where they're weakened which means less gameplay possible over time

China would be neat if it doesn't blob out and stretch west. I've been wanting a fleshed out China for years but you know damn well it's going to end up conquering the entire stepp and eat up Persia.

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>>388110060
>be Chinese
>do your job
>get turned into a freaking stump just because.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consort_Qi

>>388110110
I put Benis in sisters Bagina

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>tfw still no 14th century update
Come the fuck on. Ck2 is much more suited for the 1500s than EU

>>388110301
that was meant for >>388110110
sorry

>>388110091
>I still wish they'd give flavor to Russia/Mordvins/Volga Bulgaria of SOME kind, that stetch of the map somehow manages to be duller than live vanilla khotan up in the northeastern edge of the map on the silk road

The Finnic nations are among the strongest and most ferocious entities on the map and will dominate Russia 90% of the time, and often expand into the Cuman steppes and Scandinavia as well. In the world of CK2, Mordvin is a language of diplomacy on par with French and Latin, I imagine.

>>388107740
so true

>>388110412
>14th century
>1500s

Anon, I...

>>388107740
The eternal Swedish strikes again

>>388110110
Played as nomads, declared myself genghis khan, married my beloved sister to the Shah of Persia, who barely 3 years later had her decapitated.

I exterminated the persian culture entirely, burned the islamic holy places to the ground, had every single one of his extended family tortured to death, the females only after they borne at least 1 mongol child, mutilated him until he was a blind, disfigured lame eunuch and then send him as an ambassador to every king in the world just to show what happens when you fuck with the mongols.

>>388110472
Shhh, let him realize by himself

>>388110472
*16th century
God I'm retarded but my point still stands

>>388110110
I conquered Britain as the Duke of Iceland, took great pains to convert to the English ethnicity (almost impossible in CK2), conquered Egypt, claim-hopped my way to India via Oman, and set up a republic named the East India Company there once the Pope inevitably called a crusade on Kamarupa as Popes will. By game's end, I controlled all of India's coastline with some spiffy corridors over the mainland as well.

>>388110442
har de har har if that's sarcasm (honestly haven't played enough recently to be able to tell if the finno ugrics conquer shit though I'm inclined to think they do not), but volga bulgaria in the least should get SOMETHING
they were a fucking trade hub some time before the crusades kicked off from what I gather
they're just a shitty tiny horde as is

From what I can see, you can't actually play as China.

Which dlc do you guys think added the most?

>>388110110
Infinite children harem. Kinda dumb though even with dozens of concubines I had only like 10 kids

I'm surprised, I thought Paradox couldn't do any worse than Monks and Mystics, but this china dlc might be even shittier.

>there will never be a slightly more involved version of Victoria 2 made as Victoria 3
Don't get me wrong, there might very well be something released CALLED Victoria 3 someday but it won't be what fans actually want.

>>388110328
Jesus Christ, I'm fucking diamonds right here.

>>388110964
EUIV: Victoria
If they does im going to kill myself.

>>388111380
>>388110964
Autocratic Mana, Communist Mana, Liberal Mana
spend it in a wide number of exiting new ways

also to make other areas of the world more fun to play, when you border an industrialized nation after 5 years you automatically become industrialized

>>388110657
There are a couple of hard truths about faction balance that I've learned over the hundreds of hours I've played CK:
>Empires will never break apart for any reason or get conquered whatsoever except if they're islamic, but even then it's not guaranteed
>the Mordvins will always conquer Russia in every scenario
>Seljuk and Sabuktigin will succeed maybe 5% of the time
>by the time the Mongols arrive, there will be no more nomadic provinces on the map
>the Tocharians will always defeat both the Uyghur/Kirghiz and the Mongols, given enough time
>the Mongols will lose all of their event stacks within 20 years of spawning; when they gain a new one, they will lose that one as well without ever achieving anything
>the AI cannot make lasting gains in India as non-indian factions; in fact, the Indians are more likely to reach the Aral sea than the Muslims are to reach Delhi
>there is a 50% chance that the Byzantine Empire will control most of European Russia at game's end
>if you start in 769, it is guaranteed that the Kingdom of Lombardy will still exist in 1453 because there is no possible way for Charlemagne to conquer Italy
>90% of the time, the Vikings will either get conquered by Finns or Balts within the first 150 years or convert to Christianity within that span
>it is utterly impossible for the viking AI to make lasting gains in England outside of the 867 start

Come to think of it, I feel sorry for spending so much time on such a bad game.

>>388111613
Welcome back to the real world.

>>388110328
>and after realising that it who the "Human Swine" was, the emperor was so sick of his mother's cruelty that he virtually relinquished his authority and indulged in carnal pleasures.
>tfw mommy makes you a new fucktoy

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>>388111613
>Empires
same experience
>mordvins
again I've actually rarely noticed that, it seems to me (from old gods) that the swedes typically end up controlling rus and ruthenia gets Khazar'd
>seljuk/sabuktigin
same experience with seljuk, but oddly last few times I played sabuktigin has succeeded every time which was a pleasant surprise
seljuk may still be spawning with the wrong dynasty aka not be able to expand for shit outside the steppe but he did actually manage to win a few wars past year of occasionally playing
>mongols
>tocharians
>mongols again
same experience
>india
fucking free holy orders RIP sindh
>byzantine russia
>lombardy
same experience
>vikings
oddly I'm getting the opposite experience unless slavics (usually pomeranians) subjugage into scandieland and IDK if pomeranians are baltic I'm ignorant of how far baltic is culture wise
>utterly impossible for viking AI to make lasting gains in England
is a bummer that old gods generally doesn't set up from 769 but as of last few patches vikings seem to be significantly better at conquering northumbria than before
for some reason they've failed to take east anglia 100% of the time though which is unfortunate

I've probably sunk more hours into ck2 than you if that's any comfort to you in the "I've spent too much time" department

>this kills the jap mod

>>388109973
Yeah fuck sparrows

>>388112069
No, he got mad and fucked WHOLE concubines and mercy killed Qi.

>>388112189
The weirdest thing i have seen is a jewish karling emperor of francia.

V2, EU4, and even HOI4 look more fun than CK2.

>>388113353
ck2 is the easiest to get into in my opinion, very little thinking about supply lines and economy and it feels a bit more immersive.

>>388113267
That's no so uncommon actually, because it's just a matter of who in court has the highest stats to educate the heir. And since the AI is genocidally ethnically and religiously intolerant, it will always try to assimilate the heir it's educating. The funniest thing about it tho is that even an Ashkenazi Jewish ruler taking control of a Chrisian or Muslim realm is not enough to break an empire apart.

>>388113353
V2>CK2>EU4>HOI4

>>388113353
In my experience, EU4 is all about pumping 'action points' into technology or infrastructure. Seems a bit too abstracted to be engaging.

>>388113267
Also, I once saw a single-province pagan Berber dynasty in Taghaza or some such poor remote province convert to Judaism due to educators, whereupon they went on an epic war of conquest that saw them conquer an empire stretching from Mali to Seville within a 60 year span, after which they collapsed back into nothing due to religious rebellions and pressure from Spanish Muslims. It was an something of a recreation of the Almoravids and one of the few times I've seen RNG used for good instead of evil.

>>388114047
Viking have the ridiculous prepared invasions and conquest casus belli, i have seen norse provinces in deep west africa wtf?

>>388113483

CK2 is really hard to get into at this point if you're a Paradox virgin, there's a totally bewildering mess of attributes each character has, zillions of individual characters though only a couple dozen at a time you need to worry about at most, wildly different styles of play for different times/locations, battles have loads of variables but you'll almost never be able to influence most of them, bizarre tone-breaking comedy like warhams, cthulhu, poop bombs, and the antichrist, loads of expansions half of which suck. despite sharing the last of these problems in a big way, EU4 is probably the easiest because the player is always the same "character" and the goal is always exactly the same, fight wars to get bigger to fight more wars to get bigger.

>>388114541
I got into the game in 2016, its way easier than euiv.

I've learned V2 and EU4 but CK2 looks too complicated.

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>>388110328
Jesus.