What do you want from a sequel?

>>388103989
You're asking for too much. Remember, this IS Sega were talking about.

>>388104095
I don't think that's asking for too much at all. In fact, that seems pretty standard for a quality sequel.

>>388103989
I'd say no old ones at all, the ones that didn't get in got plenty of references, don't even need new characters or whatever juicy extras
>>388104095
Main games being developed in tandem with smaller budget 2D games is nothing new to SEGA, we got 3 Advance and 3 Rush games in the past, getting a new Mania shouldn't be that complicated

Co-op wouldn't work, what we have is what you'll get. This isn't NSMB in which everyone moves at a similar pace on linear stages.

That said:

>Reverse the ratio of old to new, maybe something a little more lenient like 60:40 too
>Make S3 MP stages into full ones
>Don't fucking drop the ball on the final boss and story, expand the HBH
>Don't fucking drop the ball on the bonus stages
>Amy would be cool but not really needed
>Expand the game to be longer than S3K and increase the number of collectables to 14 instead of 7
>Reuse and expand the special stage format in Mania
>Add essential S3C shit like transforming buttons and the ability to use multiple shit at the same time (drop dash AND the insta shield)

How would Amy play? Something to do with her hammer?

>>388103989
PC Release same time as console
Sky Sanctuary
Angel Island Zone
Genocide City
Sakura Synagogue

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>>388103989
>Reverse the zone ratios, 8 new to 4 old
>Online multiplayer
>Ability to switch the multiplayer from Sonic 2 competition mode to vanilla "first to the finish wins"
>Quality of life features like the ability to press a button to skip cutscenes
>Modes which should be standard by now, like Boss Rush (it was in the S1/S2 Taxman ports after all)
>Bonus Stages should actually have an impact on main gameplay, like somehow being able to acquire shields from them, otherwise they become pointless once you have all medals
>Ability to make save files using the unlockables like peel-out and & Knuckles, also the ability to combine peel-out with one of Sonic's other specials
>Option to switch between standard-style camera and CD-style camera
>More Knuckles-only (and Tails only?) acts like Mirage Saloon Act 1 K
>Additional features to bulk out the time trial mode, like maybe ghost replays? Maybe even staff ghosts?
>A personal gripe but I was a bit disappointed that they got Takenobu Mitsuyoshi to voice the announcer for Mania but didn't get an original vocal track from him, that shit would've elevated the soundtrack to an 11/10. Get him to sing a track for Mania 2
>Make the story a bit more coherent like S3K as opposed to Mania
If they can do stuff like this, THEN they can put in an extra character like Amy or Fang. With the exception of Online multiplayer and Ghost replays, none of the above would take too much programming/dev effort but would improve the quality of the experience dramatically. If they can do things like this to polish and round off the experience, I'd be happy to get extra characters, but if the new game is just slapping in new zones and new characters without fixing up and improving the core experience, I'd be a little bit disappointed.

>>388105930
Like she did in Advance 1 except with some improvements from the romhacks (which I'm almost positive the Mania devs know of considering how they were neck deep in the romhacking scene themselves)

>>388107079
>Like she did in Advance
She'd need some changes, what with the whole 1-button philosophy

Mushroom Hill Zone

That's it.

>>388103989
Ice Cap zone

>>388103989
New stages, that's it.
Maybe throw a few old one into the mix but the focus should be on new shit.

>>388107130
I don't think they'd have to stick to the one-button philosophy if she's an unlockable character you only get after beating the game.

>>388107256
Kinda feels like a stretch.

Sonic 3 had knuckles unlocked from the start. I'd hope that if they added amy, she would be similar in that she is a main playable character, not some bonus unlock.

>>388107345
Taxman's previous remasters had Tails as unlockable in CD and Knuckles as an unlockable in 1. It seems like the kind of thing he'd do.

Also it would be much better to have her as an unlockable since she's a different playing character so people don't choose her for their first playthrough and ruin their experience if they don't like how she plays.

>>388107256
It still seems wrong to me. Just rework her so she has a one-button moveset, it wouldn't be that hard? Maybe give her the air slash but make it a bigger hitbox since it's her hammer?

The beauty of the one-button philosophy isn't just in the fact that it makes it simple for morons to play - it also makes the game incredibly portable, so if they ever wanted to port the game to a tablet or a microwave later on, the controls don't greatly suffer for it. I think it's a good thing to keep and by sticking to the one-button philosophy it ensures they don't go too far with character specific bullshit extra moves, which is a route I'd really rather they didn't go down.

>>388107875
>>388107130

Give her the ability to do modern Sonic's homing attack using her hammer. Chain enemies with some sort of hammer combo

>>388103989
Why not make Sonic Advance 4 then?

>>388109125
How are any of those things Sonic Advance 4?

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That would be so cool guys. I would really dig a sequel. Do you know what would make it even fucking better? SHADOW THE HEDGEHOG!!!! please, please Sonic Team put shadow the hedghog into dis

>>388109270
>Amy as fourth playable
That's about as Sonic Advance as it gets

what are the good 3d sonics?

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>New Special Stage mode that's actually fun and not a pain in the ass and actually award you 1-ups
>Boss rush mode
>'Challenges' mode, based on the award winning S3&K room hack. see: https://youtu.be/46CrF45nyRc
>New and original zones. At least 12-15 of them. Some ideas include a city (Act 1 would be about skyscrapers and better parts of the city, Act 2 would be more urban and have Subway underground paths), a Japanese level that features old Japanese architecture, etc.
>Multiple bonus stages a la S3&K that you can get rings, shields and 1-ups
>You get 1-ups for every 50,000 points after you complete a stage
>A rally mode where you can challenge ghosts of other players online in a time attack to see who gets the furthest, a la Mario Run
>Knuckles to have his own unique final boss as well as his own unique Super Knuckles sprites/animations

>>388103989
For it to never ever happen

>>388107145
Anon, thats not how you spell Pumpkin Hill

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>>388103989

>Anyone but Sonic/Tails/Knuckles

Get that shit out of here. All of Sonic's friends need to be deleted from history.

>>388112603
>New Special Stage mode that's actually fun and not a pain in the ass
>Not liking the racing-style Sonic Mania Special Stages
Well I sure hope they don't aim the sequel towards people with no taste like yourself

>>388111467
Generations is the best one. Adventure 2 is also highly regarded by many but that depends on how you'll like Knuckles and Tails levels.

Colours is worth a playtrough.

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>>388111467

None of them are good.

>>388112921
Well Fang, Bean and Bark are already sort of in Mania (not to mention Amy Dolls) so removing the extended cast is already out of the question

If you actually played Sonic instead of getting your opinions from Youtubers/IGN, you'd know the real problem with Sonic was NEVER his "friends" or extra characters. The problem was hammy storylines paired with multiple vastly different and unpolished playstyles - the characters were just a scapegoat used by people who knew the 3D Sonic games were bad but were too stupid to recognize why they were bad. There's no reason why someone like Amy, Espio or even Fang couldn't work as a fourth playable character in Mania 2 as long as they play similarly enough to the core trio, had an interesting mechanic, and don't bullshit up the story.

Of course, I'd prefer that they focused on other stuff first, like the stuff in >>388106857, but "friends" do not kill the game, they never have.

>>388103989
Forces is the sequel

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>>388113542

Nothing after the Mega Drive/CD is worth playing m8.

You could argue all day about it, but none of the 3D sonic games are worth anything at all.

>>388112921
Fuck off retard.

>>388113440
tell me she does porn

test

>>388113710
Right, but I never said any of the 3D Sonic games are worth anything at all. Amy, Espio, Fang etc. are all classic cast by the way. My point is that the 3D Sonic games suck because they're bad games, the bloated character roster was merely a symptom of that problem, not a cause.

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>>388103989
Just give us more new stages rather than remixed ones, and please, please, don't rush it this time. I love this game, and I hate to say it, but it just shows sometimes, be it the fact that transitions just stop halfway through or that there's something just off with Titanic Monarch and the final boss. It felt like something was missing, give the devs the time they need and don't make it a tie in to a game that'll probably be worse in the first place. Even in my favorite zone, Press Garden, the snow theme felt like it was forced in last second, and they got lucky with it turning out really well.

Still my 2nd favorite game from this year desu, give me more of this and less of Forces please.

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>>388103989
let me do the cd figure 8 move you fucks

>>388114314
You already can

I do agree it should be in Sonic's default moveset though

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>>388103989
I rearry hope Mania teamu refrains from goring troo farr next timeu

>>388103989
fucking furries make me sick

>>388114687
Wrong thread pal?

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Let this nigger make some music instead of just voicing competition mode

There will be no sequel, they will continue to focus on Forces type games after forces sells 4 times more than Mania.

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Total of 16 or so stages, with a single run always being 12 stages + a brief 13th for collecting all the chaos emeralds. A single unique stage per character, and different stage orders per character too. Pic related, might as well take good ideas where you find them.

>>388114939
>16 or so stages
That's probably a bit much

They'd be much better off sticking with the same stage count as Mania but just making more unique zones, and more Knuckles-exclusive acts/bosses. 16 whole zones is pushing it

>>388108425
I think all she needs is the requirement to go into midair spins manually and a higher jump than the other 3

>>388114935
kek

Time travel wth some past levels being old levers

emerald hill with hill top as past
carnival night with ballon park as past
etc

>>388103989
Why the FUCK was there no Ice Cap Zone?

To use the Modern designs instead of the Classic ones.

>>388114939
I honestly think I might have enjoyed FP more than Mania, if anything for the bosses and differences in character gameplay mechanics.

Fuck me, I can't wait for FP2.

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>>388118387
lol yeah that'll happen